The head corvette of project 20385 “Thundering” is undergoing final tests

The head corvette of the project 20385 “Thundering” went to pass the final tests. At the next stage, the crews of the Baltic helicopters fleet will work out boarding the ship. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense.

The final test of the corvette takes place in the Baltic Sea, where he returned in early March, completing the inter-naval transition from the Northern Fleet, where the bulk of sea trials and verification of the main armament of the ship were carried out. At this stage, marine helicopters aviation BF will fly around the corvette and land on it in various weather conditions in the dark and daytime. It is reported that helicopter pilots will conduct more than 10 landings on the deck of the corvette in various conditions: on the go, in drift, at anchor. Nothing is reported on the deadlines for testing.

Earlier, the press service of the Severnaya Verf, which built the ship, said that the corvette would be transferred to the Russian Navy in the first half of 2020. After the transfer, the ship will make an inter-naval transition to the Pacific Fleet, where it will continue to serve.

The 20385 Project “Thundering” is the lead ship of the series. Laid down in February 2012, launched in June 2017. Construction was delayed due to the non-delivery of German MTU power plants. The corvette was completed with Russian diesel engines 1DDA-12000 of the Kolomensky plant. The unit consists of two 16D49 engines with 6000 horsepower.

It is a further development of the 20380 project. Designed to detect and destroy surface enemy ships or submarines, organize landing, guard the coastal zone, escort other ships.

Corvette displacement - 2200 tons, length - 104 m, width - 13 m, speed - up to 27 knots, cruising range - 3500 miles, autonomy - 15 days crew - 99 people.

The armament includes the universal naval rifle complex (UKSK) for the Caliber, Onyx and possibly Zircon, Redut air defense systems, the 100-mm A-190-01 artillery system, two AK-30-mm anti-aircraft artillery systems 630M, as well as anti-submarine complex "Package".

Comments

[Break through]

Well waiting

[Sky strike fighter]

A very good ship turned out. Universal.

The corvette’s armament includes a universal ship’s rifle complex (UKKS) with the ability to use the entire family of Caliber and Onyx missiles, Redut air defense systems (12 9M96M, 9M96E or 48 9M100 missiles), 100-mm A-190 artillery mount -01 (ammunition 332 rounds), two 30-mm anti-aircraft artillery systems AK-630M (6 thousand rounds), as well as anti-submarine weapons - 2 × 4 × 330 mm torpedo tubes “Package-NK” (8 torpedoes).

https://m.gazeta.ru/army/2019/10/31/12787628.shtml

[Fmax]

His air defense is not functional. If the calm was left, the corvette for the BMZ would be normal.

[Angry]

I am also for "Calm-1" on the corvette ... But there is a pancake, a plastic superstructure that does not hold Nuts. It is nevertheless necessary to transfer the superstructure to metal. It is clear that the metacentric height will change ... but still the survivability of the plastic superstructures is somehow not known. And "Volga flows into the Caspian Sea!"

[Cyril G ...]

How on this ship with air defense? On the former, it was possible to shoot SAM only with the help of the Cougar. There is no Puma on the Thundering, there is a type of a mast for controlling a weapon, rumors of radio correction are also not there. How it will work is all unknown

[Sky strike fighter]

SAM Redut .Although passes information about the SAM Poliment-Redut.

“Thundering” is protected from attacks by the Poliment-Redut anti-aircraft missile system (SAM), capable of hitting enemy aircraft and cruise missiles at ranges of up to 150 km. The ammunition of this air defense system, thanks to the active homing head, destroys the target in the final phase of the flight without receiving data from the radar station, which greatly simplifies the process of combat work.

According to the press service of the Northern Fleet (SF), March 11, the corvette left the Barents Sea from Severomorsk and headed for the Baltic. While in Sevflot, “Thundering” has passed state tests since November 2019, a new stage of testing systems and assemblies will be conducted at the ranges of the Baltic Fleet.
In December last year, in the White Sea, the project 20385 corvette carried out successful firing with Caliber cruise missiles and Onyx anti-ship missiles, and also worked out interaction with aviation. In January, in the Barents Sea, “Thundering” carried out torpedo firing at underwater and surface targets.
“During the shooting, a new complex of naval weapons was successfully tested. Corvette testing was provided by the crews of one of the nuclear submarines, which designated the submarine enemy, and the small anti-submarine ship of the Northern Fleet, Snezhnogorsk, the press service of the SF said.

https://russian.rt.com/russia/article/727440-gremyaschii-korvet-cirkon-proekt-20385

[Bashkirkhan]

Polyment does not fit on the corvette. The corvette of the project 20385 "Thundering" air defense system will be tested on Ladoga with guidance from the ground stand.

[Cyril G ...]

SAM will test on Ladoga with guidance from a ground stand.

What is it like? And why then is it needed in principle.

[Cyril G ...]

There cannot be Polement. Polement-Redoubt with us it is only pr.22350

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Cyril G ...

There cannot be Polement. Polement-Redoubt with us it is only pr.22350

There is a bunch of Fourke-2-Redoubt.

The Sigma combat information and control system is installed on the Thundering Station, and the Furke-2 station detects the enemy at sea and in the air. The ship’s fire control system is paired with the Monument A guidance system. Underwater targets are detected by Zarya and Minotaur tracking and detection stations.

https://russian.rt.com/russia/article/686822-korvet-gremyaschii-rossiya-flot

[Cyril G ...]

She does not work. The accuracy of tracking air targets Furke does not ensure the defeat of missile targets with ARGSN. That is the reality. In order to at least somehow be able to shoot at the CC, the backup method was used, control of the muzzle-bomber with the help of Puma. Only then at least something began to turn out .....

[Cympak]

There is already another bunch: MF RLC "Zaslon" + SAM "Redut". The main question is: does the MF RLC have a correction channel for Reduta missiles? The brochures do not say anything about this.

[Cyril G ...]

So.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

.Although information is passing about the Poliment-Redut air defense system

Incorrect information. It is enough just to look at the corvette (and at the frigate 22350 where Polyment is standing) to understand that there are no polyment "lattices" on the corvette.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

There are no polyment "lattices" on the corvette.

Andrei, take a closer look at the canvases, which are located in 2 rows at the IBMK.
And even NLC with an EPR of 1 sq. M takes 75 km. It’s pretty decent for a corvette, don’t you?

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Andrei, take a closer look at the canvases, which are located in 2 rows at the IBMK.

Yes, but this is not a polymer :)))

[Boa kaa]

Andrey, these are the canvases of the MRLK Barrier, which is connected with Redoubt through Sigma. Their 4x4 holes are under 9M96-9M100 and can be up to 64, if only for self-defense. And at 20836 the displacement will be 2 times larger and there will be 2 UKKS for 16 mallet, so that the boat will completely crawl out of the BMZ into the DMZ.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Andrey, these are the canvases of the MRLK Barrier

So I know very well, I wrote about it myself :)))) It was "Zaslon" that was installed on the corvettes 20385. And, although there are no direct indications that the "barrier" can control missiles from the AGSN "Reduta", I am sure it can.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And at 20836 the displacement will be 2 times larger and there will be 2 UKKS for 16 mallet

I doubt it, to be honest. And he has a total displacement of 3 called, and the X-400 instead of the UKKS and in general - as for me - something strange and unsuitable for the fleet

[89625588851]

Switching to Pacific Fleet will be a good test for Kolomenskiye diesels. Not a weak trip will turn out for the corvette!

[antivirus]

everything is bad - only 2200 tons of VI instead of 100 thousand tons
all of Texas in one gulp will not cover. what the fleet Shoigu brought to!
whether time was under DFUstinov

[1976AG]

Quote: antivirus

everything is bad - only 2200 tons of VI instead of 100 thousand tons
all of Texas in one gulp will not cover. what the fleet Shoigu brought to!
whether time was under DFUstinov

Shoigu was accepted by the fleet, as well as the Armed Forces as a whole from Serdyukov, but he also received not from Ustinov, so who brought it to what?

[antivirus]

about that and speech - "everything is bad, Shoigu does not build 100 thousand tons"
there are many patriots - my minusers, they are dissatisfied with the activities of Shoigu and all others from Ivan4 to GDP, who did not build and do not plan to build aircraft carriers of 100 thousand tons.
lobbyists? metallurgists? or paint industry?

[1976AG]

Quote: antivirus

about that and speech - "everything is bad, Shoigu does not build 100 thousand tons"
there are many patriots - my minusers, they are dissatisfied with the activities of Shoigu and all others from Ivan4 to GDP, who did not build and do not plan to build aircraft carriers of 100 thousand tons.
lobbyists? metallurgists? or paint industry?

And what do Shoigu have to do with it? He does not determine what and how many ships to build. And then, aircraft carriers are good only against weak countries, and they need serious support. In principle, we cannot pull such volumes, our ships are being built piece by piece.

[avg]

there are many patriots, my minusers, they are dissatisfied with the activities of Shoigu and all others from Ivan4 to GDP, who did not build and do not plan to build aircraft carriers of 100 thousand tons.
lobbyists? metallurgists? or paint industry?

Rather from the eternally dissatisfied. If you start building an aircraft carrier, you will immediately raise a cry: "Bastards, they build at the expense of doctors and pensioners, and look at China for a little and long time ... and in Germany there are pensions ..."
But I have not been offended by such guys for a long time. Indeed, to a certain extent, this is our driving force.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: antivirus

there are many patriots - my minusers, they are dissatisfied with the activities of Shoigu and all others from Ivan4 to GDP, who did not build and do not plan to build aircraft carriers of 100 thousand tons.

Worse is another. A lot of those who are extremely dissatisfied with the activities of Shoigu and so on in the construction of the fleet, even without any connection with aircraft carriers

[antivirus]

I do not ask you to study my com-you - but they contain: "GOZ are points of attraction for financial flows, Shoigu is one of the managers (not a career soldier) of non-resource assets and profit is the main thing there, not even fixed assets, machine tools, modern factories "
monetization of retained earnings in FSUE-State corporations, banks, etc. against private ones was sticking out of the 90s.
Stornniki of a strong state should also show effective managment.
Fleet and T14 - exchange coins for scrolling in GOZ.
a typical example is Rogozin, Roscosmos, not Shoigu even.

[novel66]

corvette - wearing a wand ... where are the destroyers? cruisers? hesitate to ask. aircraft carriers?

[Break through]

Do not cry, everything will be

[novel66]

as my neighbor used to say "if Kisel promised, he will do it ... only when .."

[novel66]

with a soft sign, by the way ..

[novel66]

when?? when ??? I want to live !!!

[antivirus]

look at amersky, console yourself

[novel66]

I want to see them burning !!

[antivirus]

and that is the correct answer.
For this, you don’t need your own carriers, enough grounding areas for soil complexes with roads, housing and other infrastructure in the center of your country

[zwlad]

And why do you need an aircraft carrier, feel free to ask?
Our strategic nuclear forces can reach our partners even without an aircraft carrier.
If only to cut the budget. So DAM said that there is no money. I have already said by the way.
Let the corvettes first train. Here's how to build 30-40 pieces. Then it will be possible to deal with destroyers with all kinds of BDKs.

[novel66]

then they decide that it’s so good, why do destroyers?

[Voltsky]

Why do you need destroyers if you have signed a contract for "battle frigates" 22350M?
Large atomic carriers are also not needed, because of the lost battle the sword / shield;

[novel66]

waiting - ssss

[Voltsky]

Unfortunately, it will take a long time, because not all of the 22350 series have been completed, not to mention being in service, and 22350.1 have only been laid down, but 22350.2 / 22350M are only being prepared for the bookmark.
And light aircraft carriers, as I understand it, have not yet realized that they want a light and cheap non-nuclear one; or big dear but atomic. Today, missiles are very biting, and any hit in such a trough, disables it

[novel66]

so, for that, and an order so that they do not fall into Avik

[Voltsky]

Well, from the part you are right, but at the moment, there is nowhere to drive the order, your interests are near you in the near future; the Middle East and North Africa with the Arctic. Of the exceptions, the South China Sea (where the stronghold of democracy with the golden panda gathers bad) and the north of South America

[novel66]

we don’t have a warrant either ..

[Voltsky]

why not - an order is a line building :)

[novel66]

RTOs can be built .. but the point

[Voltsky]

for the parade for example :)
Well, they are torturing Nakhimov and completing the UDC and maybe there will be more ash trees by this time, here you will have KUG; while you can’t rivet at the Chinese pace.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: novel xnumx

so, for that, and an order so that they do not fall into Avik

and from what today, are you ready to create an order ?!

[novel66]

I'm not ready .. and the Motherland is not ready - and this is a problem

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: novel xnumx

I'm not ready .. and the Motherland is not ready - and this is a problem

then why do you need avik today ?! or is this not a logical question ?!

[novel66]

here I am just against the Aviks. I'm for destroyers and cruisers

[peter rusin_2]

They will put you on a rowing scandal, they will be given three tablets: Destroyer, Cruiser, Aircraft carrier-- you will work out and shout from afar-who and what you are every time! To be afraid!

[novel66]

Is it me with horseradish? I'm an aviator

[bayard]

Quote: novel xnumx

I'm an aviator

So the boat will have the status of an aircraft carrier ... aircraft carrier.

[novel66]

will they give an admiral? I’m the commander of Avik by status

[bayard]

For a rowboat, only caperang.
... But if you screw on the Whirlwind motor ....

[novel66]

there will be a need for warhead 5

[bayard]

Do you have enough space on the boat for another crew member?
Only koperang!

[novel66]

It's a shame ... but the navigator at least put?

[bayard]

You are the commander of an aircraft carrier boat, and you decide:
- Or with a motor and warhead-5 - admiral;
“Or with a navigator and a caperang.”
I think so .

[novel66]

okay. okay with warhead-5, I already know who I’ll take there

[D16]

There is no puma, there is a type of weapon control mast, there is no rumored radio correction either. How it will work is all unknown

The mast was demolished by the office, which was the first in the world to install a headlamp on an aircraft and implemented a radio correction mode for the R-33 and R-37. Rumors about a leaflet?

[Cyril G ...]

From the fleet, from users. Well, if the rumors are wrong ...

[D16]

The user from the fleet when was the last time on the box?

[Cyril G ...]

Recently ...... Do you have evidence of the presence of RK there?

[D16]

Of course not. Only logic. What about your user?

[Cyril G ...]

Knowledge. And it’s good if you are right after all.

[D16]

Knowledge.

The presence of X-band AFAR canvases indirectly indicates the possibility of RK. The user is guided not by knowledge, but by service instructions. And if your source does not have access to them, then most likely these are guesses from the finger. As soon as the firing of the Redoubt takes place, everything will become clear. Without a crutch in the form of a Puma, there are no options to hand over a corvette.

[Cyril G ...]

Is there exactly AFAR?

Without a crutch in the form of a Puma, there are no options to hand over a corvette.

Agree

As soon as the firing of the Redoubt takes place, everything will become clear.

I haven’t heard anything yet ....

[bayard]

There "Barrier".

[D16]

Is there exactly AFAR?

This is how they write in advertising: a multifunctional general ship radar station of the X range based on fixed AFAR
Source: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/zaslon-mrlk/ MTC "BASTION" AVKarpenko
About the station S range did not specify. Most likely PFAR.

I haven’t heard anything yet ....

Most likely they were not there. Probably on the go, they finish the software.

[alexmach]

Most likely they were not there. Probably on the go, they finish the software.

It is doubtful. After all, such an RLC not only with 20385 but also with the latter 20380. Aldar and Retivy should also be with this version of the air defense system.

[D16]

And how much was laid in 20380, given that Redut + Furke did not work so normally .

[alexmach]

4 pieces with at least the same mast as on 20380

[D16]

So no wonder. Ships lay with the expectation of further development or modernization.

[lopuhan2006]

Quote: Cyril G ...

There cannot be Polement. Polement-Redoubt with us it is only pr.22350

What was the creature thinking putting minus and for what? For the fact that the Polent-redoubt does not fit into corvettes? This is either a bot, or stubborn, or spoiling everywhere ... r

[Cyril G ...]

Sometimes it happens. And why am I not surprised !!!! And Poliment really doesn’t interfere with the corvette. IMHO, the wrong decision was that they scored a bolt on the dagger at the time. It could be significantly facilitated. For the corvette of such a self-defense air defense system, reasonable sufficiency ...

[Amateur modeller]

Excellent, a very necessary ship for our Navy, I hope that together with "Zealous" will be included in the fleet this year.

[Kestrel]

Great car, with good offensive weapons. Project 20380 corvettes would be replaced in production, since their armament, consisting of subsonic Uran-M anti-ship missiles with a range of 260 km, is no longer very relevant. 20385 corvettes, such as (Thundering), can carry Onix-M supersonic anti-ship missiles, with 800 km range, which is not very bad.

[Antokha]

And why, in recent years, our fleet has seen a tendency to reach 30 knots, which, as an amateur, it seems to me, are the standard, at least for our enemy. Previously, we had 30 and even more. And now 27. I understand that it’s not Formula 1, but it wasn’t before, but went faster.