Indian Marshal named some parameters of the future 5th generation fighter AMCA

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In India, they announced the main parameters for the fifth generation fighter, which they are going to create on their own. We are talking about a promising aviation complex, which is currently designated as AMCA.

In India, it is noted that the aircraft will have fundamental differences from any generation 4 fighter, including upgraded versions 4+ and 4 ++.



And the word "will", apparently, does not bother anyone in India. For what specific time, the developers are ready to present the final concept of a promising fighter, it does not say. But it is reported about those parameters that are going to be implemented in a new project.

Some parameters of the AMCA concept voiced by Indian Marshal aviation Anil Chopra, today a member of the commission of the military tribunal in the state of Uttar Pradesh.

The aircraft will be twin-engine. Which engines are currently designated as the basis? Marshall believes that by 2032 the country should have its own turbojet engine, which will create an afterburner traction of about 16,5 tons. It is argued that one of the tasks of developers should be the task of reducing the mass of the engine, for which it is planned to use the "latest achievements of the metallurgical industry." The engine should receive an automated control system for operating parameters with their distribution.

An Indian-made fighter plans to equip an “advanced” radar with AFAR and an anti-jamming system for the enemy.

What the Indian Air Force speaks with special reverence is the "stealth" coverage of AMCA. The claimed parameter, EPR, is "lower than that of the Chinese J-20." What, by the time of the birth (if at all) of the AMCA will be the ESR parameters of Chinese fighters, today for obvious reasons no one can say, but in India they are firmly convinced that AMCA will have better indicators ...

The Ministry of Defense of India notes that the design of the glider and the tail of a promising fighter involves a diamond shape with "trapezoidal wings and a fully movable vertical tail." This, according to the marshal, will allow AMCA to achieve "greater maneuverability."

The first flight of the prototype is provided in 2025. But if you take into account the data on the engine, it turns out that by 2025 the AMCA prototype will not use the power plants that Marshal Chopra spoke about. Arming plans to implement by 2032.

It is alleged that a fifth-generation carrier-based fighter will be created for the Indian naval forces. The timing of its creation is not reported.
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  1. Eug
    +9
    20 May 2020 07: 50
    That we should build a house - we’ll draw, we will live .. as they say - you want to make God laugh, tell him about your plans ...
    1. +6
      20 May 2020 08: 04
      They’ve been building a tank for about 30 years, but it still doesn’t work out ... and then their own aircraft engine.
      1. 0
        20 May 2020 08: 21
        Well, you give! Don't believe in Indians ?! But what about the vimanas ?! Thousands of years ago, these aircraft flew at hypersonic speed around the earth and even into space! Why should they strain their genetic memory and remember all ... "Indian rock legends"? !
        1. -2
          20 May 2020 08: 27
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Well, you give! Don't believe in Indians ?! But what about the vimanas ?! Thousands of years ago, these aircraft flew at hypersonic speed around the earth and even into space! Why should they strain their genetic memory and remember all ... "Indian rock legends"? !

          Here are those cross upside down, did not know. This means that they will seek internal reserves to reduce the battle of containers per ton-kilometer. As bequeathed drivers Larionov and Kutko.
          1. 0
            21 May 2020 16: 32
            Judging by the military uniforms and habits of the Indians, they will also have a plane with feathers. laughing
            In order not to distinguish it from a peacock in flight ..
        2. 0
          20 May 2020 08: 41
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Well, you give! Don't believe in Indians ?! But what about the vimanas ?! Thousands of years ago, these aircraft flew at hypersonic speed around the earth and even into space! Why should they strain their genetic memory and remember all ... "Indian rock legends"? !

          They strain, even very much, they get out their eyes, then they look. Nope, not genetic memory, but some plasticine. laughing And they hid the vimans, only forgot to put a branch (memo). Now the hope is either for genetic memory, or just remember where they buried.
        3. +2
          20 May 2020 08: 54
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Well, you give! Don't you believe in Indians ?! But what about vimana ?!

          Nikolaitch, I studied with the Indians. Frankly, I was stupid in physics, but they are even dumber.
          1. +3
            20 May 2020 09: 03
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Nikolaitch, I studied with the Indians. Frankly, I was stupid in physics, but they are even dumber.

            Well, you're straight professor Vladimir in comparison with them! It is so ?
            Here's a bike in the subject (the old and the professor's name is also a joker, but you need to look)))
            An American professor of mathematics comes to visit our professor in Russia.
            They are sitting in a restaurant and ours says:
            -You know, in our country there is such a level of education that everyone knows even the highest
            math!
            -Can not be!
            They sit further, the Russian goes to the toilet, on the way calls up the waitress and says:
            -When I ask you what the cosine integral is, you say minus the sine.
            Do you get it?
            -I got it.
            After some time, he resumes the conversation on the topic of education with the American
            by professor:
            - Let's ask something from higher mathematics, well, at least to this waitress?
            -Come on!
            Call:
            - What is the cosine integral equal to?
            Waitress:
            -Minus sine.
            American:
            -Oh, that's awesome !!!
            After a while, the waitress again approaches their table and says:
            - Sorry, I forgot to add - plus a constant!

            Here it is Soviet education in all its glory .. !!!!
            1. +1
              20 May 2020 09: 08
              Quote: AVTOHTON
              Well, you are a direct professor in comparison with them! It is so ?

              Not at all, Vitaly. I remember one Indian asked me to solve a problem about the resistance of nickel wire. Somehow, he fell off him, although it was not very convenient, a foreigner after all. laughing
              1. -3
                20 May 2020 10: 03
                Quote: mordvin xnumx
                Quote: AVTOHTON
                Well, you are a direct professor in comparison with them! It is so ?

                Not at all, Vitaly. I remember one Indian asked me to solve a problem about the resistance of nickel wire. Somehow, he fell off him, although it was not very convenient, a foreigner after all. laughing

                But he still realized that you can solve it, but he’s just busy with more serious tasks and there’s no time to deal with this trifle !!!! It was .. good laughing
            2. +2
              21 May 2020 00: 15
              Quote: AVTOHTON
              -When I ask you what the cosine integral is, you say minus the sine.

              professor: 2
              "cosine integral" = "sine" + C (of course)
              and here
              Integral from cosine = - "sine" + C (of course)
          2. +2
            20 May 2020 10: 04
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            but they are even dumber

            But they have .... was ... the king of the apes Hanuman with his people! Indians consider monkeys so smart that they still envy them! crying
        4. 0
          20 May 2020 09: 12
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Well, you give! Do not believe in Indians

          Gypsies they are laughing
        5. 0
          21 May 2020 15: 57
          Why are you all laughing here ??? India has developed and produces nuclear weapons. It produces its own ballistic missiles of different range. Or do you think that Kalash is more complicated than a nuclear warhead?
          It also produces the Akash air defense missile system, the light attack helicopter HAL LCH.
          Well, for those who love to shout "there is no analogue in the world"
          In India, there is a third generation anti-tank missile system "Nag", which hits tanks in the roof and operates on the "fire and forget" principle. In the Russian Federation, they still cannot create such a thing !!))))
          Are you talking about 20 years of developing Arjun and Tajes?
          How many decades in Russia have tried to make VNUE and a boat under it Lada ??
          Let's remember about space rockets? How many they have invented and showed cartoons about the "Angara", etc. and fly in the Soviet Union.
          And can we talk about the new corn plant? They blinded "Baikal", the TV crackled and launched into production. And what? Yes, they gave a new order for the development of the same corn plant. but in another sharaga and at the same time bought in China, a Chinese corn plant !!!! He is very much needed in Siberia.
          They cannot blind the maize for 10 years !!! But the constant screeching "has no pro ... wink
      2. +4
        20 May 2020 08: 37
        Quote: Civil
        They’ve been building a tank for about 30 years, but it still doesn’t work out ... and then their own aircraft engine.

        You are not quite right, the tank turned out, it even moves. But, its mass is such that not a single bridge in India, not a single railway platform can stand it. 20 years trying to reduce weight.
      3. 0
        20 May 2020 14: 57
        Quote: Civil
        They’ve been building a tank for 30 years

        Tank is nothing! Here's how they copied a Kalashnikov assault rifle ...

        Although, s.r., it must be admitted that sometimes their engineers and designers visit Fortune and they give birth to quite good things.
      4. 0
        22 May 2020 06: 43
        Quote: Civil
        and then your aircraft engine.
        They have a BRAMOS. Scale. wassat laughing
    2. +1
      20 May 2020 11: 30
      Rzhu nimagu))) they are a car, which even by the standards of the 4th generation is considered very mediocre, they cannot "finish" to the mind, and then immediately the 5th, and even independently)))
  2. +1
    20 May 2020 08: 03
    Shelf with fiction, fantastically moved ....
    And what the Hindus just do not say, what they just do not promise ....
    But I'm afraid the result will be as usual, zero. hi
    1. +1
      20 May 2020 10: 47
      Why immediately zero. A negative result is also a result. But why invent a 5th generation "invisible dancer"? If his "dances", still no one will see. lol
  3. +6
    20 May 2020 08: 21
    Years will pass and the next marshal will declare why "5", we will make an aircraft of the 6th generation.
  4. +3
    20 May 2020 08: 26
    I remembered an anecdote about a Jew: "Fima, why don't you buy sweets for the kids? -Ah, Sarah, I have no money for chocolate, and my kids shouldn't eat barberries!" In general, someday they will have this "chocolate" plane. laughing
  5. +3
    20 May 2020 08: 27
    It will take 5, then another 5 years and we will see that the cart has remained in place.
    But he was brightly colored, and beautiful girls and elephants dancing around.
  6. +3
    20 May 2020 08: 34
    The lightweight Tejas project started back in 1983. Until now, this aircraft has not become the basis of the Indian Air Force. Rafali's buying again. And this creation of Indian thought is likely to come to the troops by the end of this century.
    1. +3
      20 May 2020 08: 47
      And you are an optimist, dear! So, offhand, two failed projects of the Indian military-industrial complex: the Arjun tank, which you mentioned as Tejas. Well, on the little things, a project to create your own small arms, the INSAS assault rifle. None of the above is a breakout.
  7. +3
    20 May 2020 08: 40
    Marshall believes that by 2032 the country should have its own turbojet engine, which will create an afterburner traction of about 16,5 tons.


    So success to you, no one objects ...
  8. 0
    20 May 2020 09: 09
    And the word "will", apparently, does not bother anyone in India.

    Ha, ha! And what can confuse us with this?
  9. 0
    20 May 2020 09: 09
    indian dreamer ...
  10. 0
    20 May 2020 09: 19
    In India, it is noted that the aircraft will have fundamental differences from any generation 4 fighter, including upgraded versions 4+ and 4 ++.
    Yeah he will have a "speck on his forehead" ...
  11. 0
    20 May 2020 09: 36
    What kind of stealth ??? Americans have even spotted Santa's sleigh for about 20 years, and they are only going to design.
  12. -2
    20 May 2020 09: 58
    Well done. Attract our specialists. Let at least the money earn normal.
  13. +1
    20 May 2020 11: 40
    Ahhh, well, that is, they already put a bolt on the creation of a normal 4-generation machine - this is a promising business, they decided to do 5 right away ...
  14. +1
    20 May 2020 13: 16
    There is a small problem - the engine for him is still half as powerful as that general wants. To double the thrust of a relatively small engine is almost impossible. Only something like Al-41f, which is "product 20", with a reduced diameter of the CPV and cut down characteristics, for the sake of reducing the size. However, I'm sure no one will make special engines for them. F414 is most likely already close to the ceiling of its capabilities. So it's going to be a pretty fun decade for the AMCA developers.
  15. +1
    20 May 2020 14: 01
    5th generation fighters created by the United States are imperfect. Russia and China have difficulties. The European Union did not even try to take it. And then the Indian marshal appears, who says - and we will do it. Are you serious, Marshal? laughing
  16. 0
    20 May 2020 20: 54
    I remember they made their bullet from "Kalashnikov". Now they are changing. Dancers know how to make things worse laughing
  17. +1
    21 May 2020 12: 35
    In India, it is noted that the aircraft will have fundamental differences from any generation 4 fighter, including upgraded versions 4+ and 4 ++. Yeah, he will sing and dance.
  18. 0
    21 May 2020 17: 58
    By 2032, the country should have its own turbojet engine, which will allow you to create afterburner traction of about 16,5 tons


    Gyy ... why not a dark energy engine ?! They have imported engines on their "HAL Tejas", and what kind of engine of the 5th generation can we talk about if they have no experience in building even engines of previous generations.
  19. 0
    21 May 2020 18: 06
    the only thing that an Indian general may appear by this time is another villa.
  20. 0
    21 May 2020 18: 11
    Damn, everything is painted so cool, but I have a number of questions ... where will they get these technologies from ?!
  21. 0
    22 May 2020 00: 52
    Quote: V.I.P.
    In India, there is a third generation anti-tank missile system "Nag", which hits tanks in the roof and operates on the "fire and forget" principle. In the Russian Federation, they still cannot create such a thing !!))))

    And can you at the same time tell us how many years the Indians have been eating with this "naked"? And as for "they cannot create in the Russian Federation", then anti-tank missiles with IK.GSN were created in practically all design bureaus engaged in the development of anti-tank missiles! We tested with IK.GSN "cornets", "whirlwinds", "attacks" ... The problems are not in the creation of such missiles, but in the availability of orders for them and in financing these orders ...