Bayraktar TB2 shock UAVs for Ukraine: where are they going to use the APU


Ukraine conducted training flights of Turkish drones Bayraktar TB2. Judging by the increased attention to these UAVs, Kiev is going to sooner or later use them not only in exercises.


The Bayraktar TB2 shock unmanned aerial vehicle, manufactured by the Turkish company Baykar Makina, made its first test flight in August 2014. In the same year, the UAV was first tested in combat conditions against Kurdish forces, and since 2016 it began to be regularly used in Turkish Kurdistan to fight rebels. But the "star era" of Turkey’s shock drones came a little later, when they were involved in the civil war in Libya and in the operation "Spring Shield" in the province of Idlib in Syria.

Where did the Turkish UAV go


At the same time, Turkey was actively engaged in the PR of its UAVs, trying to acquire foreign buyers. As a result, Qatar ordered a batch of drones, and then it was the turn of Ukraine. In Kiev, they became interested in the Turkish drone in 2018, and at the very beginning of 2019, then-President Petro Poroshenko released information about the contract between the Ukrspetsexport corporation and the Turkish company Baykar Makina.

In accordance with the terms of the contract worth $ 69 million, Ukraine acquired 6 strike UAVs Bayraktar TB2, a set of ammunition and 2 ground control stations. Also, the announced amount of the contract included the training of Ukrainian troops to control drones.

The need to buy “Bayraktarov”, which was not particularly hidden in Kiev, arose due to the conflict in the Donbass and tensions with Russia. But first of all, the Ukrainian military command, of course, expected to carry out operations in the Donbass with the help of new UAVs.



Turkish-made UAVs transferred to the 383rd regiment of remotely controlled aircraft of the Armed Forces, located at the base of the fighter regiment in Starokonstantinov, Khmelnytsky region.

However, almost immediately, in March 2019, the freshly acquired Bayraktar TB2 set off were transferred to the Donbass. They were stationed in the Dokuchaevsk area, where the 35th separate naval infantry brigade operated. At the same time, 50 Ukrainian servicemen completed a special course on the management of Bayraktar in Turkey. Thus, Kiev tried to increase the shock capabilities of the AFU operational grouping, equipping the army with the latest shock drones.

Problems and obstacles for the use of UAVs in the Donbass


However, a number of Ukrainian experts immediately expressed doubts that the Bayraktars would be able to have any serious impact on the course of events in the event of the resumption of large-scale hostilities in the Donbass. Among the shortcomings of the Turkish UAV, a small combat load was listed, the ability to act only against poorly protected objects, and vulnerability to enemy radar systems.

By the way, in Libya, the use of Bayraktars was no longer as victorious as during operations against the Syrian forces. So, one of Khalifa Haftar’s Armor-S1E air defense missile defense systems managed to destroy 16 Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones, but in addition to the Shell, Bayraktaras were also shot down by other air defense systems. Donbass is not Libya, the military personnel of NM LDNR have much greater skills in working with equipment than their Libyan counterparts. Therefore, it can be predicted that drones in the event of the resumption of the active phase of the war in the Donbass will begin to fall even more than in Libya.



As for the possible use against the RF Armed Forces, here Turkish drones, originally intended for police counter-guerrilla operations, have practically no chance. Possessing the world's strongest air defense and electronic warfare systems, the Russian armed forces can easily bring down Bayraktars.

There is another obstacle to the use of Bayraktar drones in the Donbass. The Ukrainian command considers them too expensive. Unlike Turkey, for Ukraine, “Bayraktars” cannot be “consumables”.
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  1. Kronos 19 May 2020 17: 10 New
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    In general, Ukrainians already use drones and cause losses and experience is garbage if there are no effective means of counteracting
    1. Tatyana 19 May 2020 17: 28 New
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      Bayraktar TB2 shock UAVs for Ukraine: where are they going to use the APU?
      It is known where!

      The APU will not rust the use of Turkish drones against DLNR.
      1. Sky strike fighter 19 May 2020 18: 21 New
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        Why ISIS Turkish drones? laughing All the same, they won’t help. Yes, and they will bring them all down in a couple of days at most.
        The opinion of the military was posted on his Facebook page by Ukrainian journalist Yuriy Butusov.

        “The Ukrainian army is now fighting like ISIS - when we hear about reforms according to NATO standards, everyone laughs. This is a fraud of society, in the army, not a single really belligerent person believes in this. In terms of organization, we have weapons standards at the level of militias from Syria or Africa, ”said the Ukrainian officer.

        He emphasizes that, compared to 2018, the organization of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has become worse in all respects. For example, he talked about the situation in the mortar battery of one of the battalions.

        “Half of the mortars are faulty, the rest are used from a distance of one or two kilometers, the barrels are shot completely.

        https://riafan.ru/1277368-oficer-vsu-sravnil-ukrainskuyu-armiyu-s-ig
        1. Kronos 19 May 2020 18: 45 New
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          Igil to the article if you forgot it was not very bad at war
          1. Gato 20 May 2020 02: 10 New
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            Apparently this is why Vaseline made Kurban Bayram and Uraza Bayram the public holidays of Ukraine. And he decided to build a large mosque in Kiev belay
      2. Vicontas 19 May 2020 19: 37 New
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        Yeah, I even know how! They will sell them to the militia, as they sold the American counter-battery radars, and at the check they will say that "it was blown up somewhere, but I don’t know where to go! My head didn’t go away after the burner!"
        1. Kerensky 20 May 2020 08: 24 New
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          They’ll sell to the militias, as they sold the American counter-battery radars,

          There were three sets of them. You have not purchased yet?
    2. Civil 19 May 2020 20: 24 New
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      Bayraktar TB2 shock UAVs for Ukraine: where are they going to use the APU


      Apparently in Papua New Guinea or in Madagascar.
  2. The leader of the Redskins 19 May 2020 17: 17 New
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    How much did one shell hit? !! sixteen?!! Then I believe in statements about the downed hundred!
    1. Break through 19 May 2020 17: 59 New
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      Why not? Could bring down 50 if skillfully used and reload during.
      1. tekinoral 19 May 2020 20: 18 New
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        Quote: Break through
        Why not? Could bring down 50 if skillfully used and reload during.

        And how many shells did Bayraktar bring down? write too
        1. KARAKURT15 19 May 2020 21: 00 New
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          For the last two days, 3 burnt and 2 captured Armor. And that $ 350 million. In terms of Bayraktar it will be exactly 35 Bayraktar. And not yet evening ...
          1. Break through 19 May 2020 21: 20 New
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            Lying is bad. Burned 2 and one trophy. And they burned them inoperative. So drones would be shot down again. It’s just that cranks at Haftar kept the Armor not in working order.
            1. tekinoral 19 May 2020 21: 30 New
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              Quote: Break through
              Lying is bad

              Only you are not lying fellow
          2. Cyril G ... 19 May 2020 22: 33 New
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            The armor costs a billion rubles. About 16 million bucks. Yes, and the Armor was noted in Lost Armor only two ...
        2. Break through 19 May 2020 21: 18 New
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          About 40 bikars shot down the Shell. The shells have long paid for themselves many times)
  3. Viktor Sergeev 19 May 2020 17: 27 New
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    Are these the ones that are pouring in packs in Syria or an even simpler option for the poor?
  4. qobnvmog 19 May 2020 17: 30 New
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    So, one of Khalifa Haftar’s Armor-S1E air defense missile defense system managed to destroy 16 Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones
    - A figure from the air, nowhere is there any confirmation.

    Will be applied in pairs. One (or not one) with missiles hangs away, out of reach, the other with a radar is substituted and looks for targets.
    1. Break through 19 May 2020 18: 00 New
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      Yes, often these bikatars fall in Libya. Full of pictures
      1. qobnvmog 19 May 2020 18: 26 New
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        Quote: Break through
        Yes, often these bikatars fall in Libya. Full of pictures

        Well, yes, they shot down a couple of times. There are a lot of pictures, most of the fakes, but they will not be typed together for a dozen shots.
        1. Break through 19 May 2020 18: 29 New
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          Yes, no fakes. Photos are different and different terrain. Somewhere there have already been 40 of them in Libya and Syria. If not more. There is even where jammed with a reb.
          1. qobnvmog 19 May 2020 18: 31 New
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            Quote: Break through
            Somewhere there have already been 40 of them in Libya and Syria. If not more.

            I will not argue. A number from the same category as in the article, OBS.
            1. Break through 19 May 2020 19: 39 New
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              What OSF if the photo facts are full. Yes video.
        2. Cyril G ... 19 May 2020 19: 45 New
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          Only Anka shot down a couple, Bayraktarov significantly more than 10.
        3. KARAKURT15 19 May 2020 21: 02 New
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          Agitprop posts photos from different angles)) In short 4 Bayraktara from 5 angles is already 20. laughing
        4. Cyril G ... 19 May 2020 22: 35 New
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          15 according to Aviation safty network
    2. APASUS 19 May 2020 18: 06 New
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      Quote: qobnvmog
      - A figure from the air, nowhere is there any confirmation.

      Have you tried searching, or so out of habit?

      1. qobnvmog 19 May 2020 18: 24 New
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        Yeah. All 16 in one frame.
        1. APASUS 19 May 2020 18: 26 New
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          Quote: qobnvmog
          Yeah. All 16 in one frame.

          I didn’t particularly resting found 6
          1. qobnvmog 19 May 2020 18: 29 New
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            Quote: APASUS
            I didn’t particularly resting found 6

            I'm not against. But there are no official statistics. And so you can say anything.
            1. APASUS 19 May 2020 18: 35 New
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              Quote: qobnvmog
              But there are no official statistics. And so you can say anything.

              What official statistics, who do you, the manufacturer will recognize the loss or warring parties? Everyone has their own interests in this war. I found 6 cars with photo fixation of destruction on the ground.
              This of course can be refuted, but this is a better argument than fortune telling on coffee grounds.
            2. PalBor 19 May 2020 19: 02 New
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              According to various sources, from 13 to 16 Turkish drones were shot down in Syria. The Turks, as far as I remember, recognized 9 or 10. The main damage, they say, was caused not by the "Armor", but by the "Buki". There were a lot of articles in that period with photos and videos, including those in VO. Too lazy to look.
            3. Cyril G ... 19 May 2020 19: 59 New
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              This year is strictly taken into account with photos
              In Turkey, Bayraktar.
              http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/233857
              And Libya - 15 Bayraktarov, 4 of an unknown type. (all types are officially owned by GNA)
              http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=YK
              In Syria - 2 Bayraktara and 2 Anki.
              http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/dblist.php?Country=YK
    3. Nyrobsky 19 May 2020 19: 57 New
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      Quote: qobnvmog
      So, one of Khalifa Haftar’s Armor-S1E air defense missile defense system managed to destroy 16 Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones
      - A figure from the air, nowhere is there any confirmation.

      Will be applied in pairs. One (or not one) with missiles hangs away, out of reach, the other with a radar is substituted and looks for targets.

      This time, they don’t get three full pairs anymore, because one “Bayraktar” horned henchmen already stuck into chernozems about three weeks ago in the learning process. Five left.
  5. Thrifty 19 May 2020 17: 37 New
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    You can laugh, you can wave your saber further, but we don’t even have such an attack drone in service. From the promises of our officials it is possible to build a highway to Saturn, but in the army there is still no shock drone from the word at all! I don’t know if the Turkish attack drone is bad or moderately good, but it is in production, it is in service, it is even sold to other countries. And we are lagging stronger and stronger, even from the Turks and Iranians! !!
    1. Ilya098 19 May 2020 17: 56 New
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      What do you dislike about Orion?
      In service with the Russian army officially appeared drones class MALE. Yesterday, April 20, the TASS news agency reported that the Russian Ministry of Defense had signed the acceptance certificate of the first Orion unmanned long-range complex.

      Its percussion version was applied in Syria.
      It became known that the Orion UAV completed tests in Syria. These tests, according to TASS, were associated with the use of weapons of an unmanned aerial vehicle.
    2. V.I.P. 19 May 2020 18: 01 New
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      You just don’t understand. Baykaytar is mediocre, cheap - everyone has plenty of them .... But our Moscow Region needs an expensive and non-existent world))))
      1. Sky strike fighter 19 May 2020 18: 23 New
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        Bayraktar is definitely not cheap. Darling despite the fact that, as you put it, there are plenty of them all.
    3. Kerensky 20 May 2020 08: 36 New
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      but in the army of an attack drone there is still no word at all!

      There is. Only without fuss and advertising. Look at least the enrollment lists in our Academy VKS them. Zhukov. What is going on in TsAGI ...
  6. TermNachTer 19 May 2020 17: 50 New
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    There was information that in Starokonstantinov, with a very hard landing, one “bayraktar” was already written off.
    1. Sky strike fighter 19 May 2020 18: 26 New
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      In 2014, half of the Ukrainian military aviation was decommissioned. And then they bought as many as 6 Bayraktars, and even tender ones that break when landing and want to rely on something.
  7. Break through 19 May 2020 17: 57 New
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    They militate
  8. knn54 19 May 2020 18: 14 New
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    The Association of National Aviation and Unmanned Systems of Ukraine issued a proposal to develop a similar UAV. It was about, by combining the efforts of private manufacturers and scientific institutions, to create a domestic operational-tactical complex. The term is no more than three years.
    But the MOU opened R&D under the Antonov State Enterprise, which showed developments in the form of the Gorlits project. And that’s all. Two goa passed and Ukrainian officials decided to purchase Turkish devices, ditching another idea.
    In the Bayraktar TB2 drone, up to 93% of all components are created in Turkey itself, but the designers are striving to bring this figure to 100%.
    What can I say. No words ... just drooling.
    1. Sky strike fighter 19 May 2020 18: 29 New
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      What can I say. No words ... just drooling.

      We have a completely domestic Orion with similar performance characteristics. So drooling does not flow it for sure.
      1. donavi49 19 May 2020 19: 06 New
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        Domestic? There is still a Rotax 914 engine.

        Latest engine data for Fall 2019
        In accordance with the appeal of the commander of the VKS and the instructions of the Customer, one of
        APD experimental engines - 110/120 transferred to Svoy Plane LLC.
        1. Mitroha 19 May 2020 22: 13 New
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          For serial production, the Agat company, in cooperation with TsIAM, is developing the Russian APD-110/120 engine. Currently, the engine has successfully completed testing and entered mass production. The APD-110/120 (Agat-B) is designed for 120 hp.
      2. Asad 19 May 2020 19: 11 New
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        And whose engine is installed on it?
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    2. Rzzz 19 May 2020 23: 49 New
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      Quote: knn54
      but designers strive to bring this figure to 100%.

      Well, 100% will never be there. The same microelectronics - 100% Chinese will be, it is unlikely that the Turks will pull development and production.
  9. iouris 19 May 2020 18: 25 New
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    Where is the specialized air defense system against Turkish UAVs? The war has been going on for a long time and the results are bad.
  10. tekinoral 19 May 2020 19: 45 New
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    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    What can I say. No words ... just drooling.

    We have a completely domestic Orion with similar performance characteristics. So drooling does not flow it for sure.

    To you, oh how far to the Turks in the UAV
    1. Sky strike fighter 19 May 2020 22: 48 New
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      What are you saying. Do the Turks have something like our S-70?
  11. Lord of the Sith 19 May 2020 20: 08 New
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    They will be used against the Republics - by their own means. There is something, there is experience. And they cost money.
  12. north 2 19 May 2020 20: 40 New
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    Russia needs to be afraid of Ukraine after the US election if someone from the Clinton clan or some new Mac Kane wins there. Because so long to light the Ukrainian wick, as a provocation
    Russian war in Europe and so that it does not burn, as before, it’s too much money down the drain and
    into the pockets of Bandera. And there is no return so far. Russian intelligence should work especially vigilantly so as not to oversleep the moment when America in Ukraine begins to remove from power
    and command posts of Bandera, because they can only kill their opponents and intimidate
    people and even steal, but are unable to rearm the Ukrainian army to a level capable of
    Draw Russia into the war. Indeed, now even the last fanatic and even the most ardent Russafob, neither in the United States nor in the Ukrainian army can provoke Russia because he understands that today's Ukrainian
    It’s even worse than the Swede fell near Poltava. Therefore, Russia had to recognize Donbas’s independence yesterday, today, after the Nord Stream -2 gas pipeline was commissioned, it’s not too late to do this, but you don’t have to wait until the USA replaces the Ukrainian Bender elite with its hawks so that Ukraine effectively worked out the money and the goals for which the United States appointed Ukraine to be the Bickford cord of the war against Russia.
    1. Kronos 19 May 2020 20: 49 New
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      It may well have been significantly strengthened since 2014 - they raised salaries and use contractors, gained experience, modern equipment and equipment
    2. Kerensky 20 May 2020 08: 46 New
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      than the Swede fell near Poltava.

      There is no point in analyzing Turkish UAVs near Poltava from the time of Peter and Karl. You will drag the Kulikovo battle! By the way, the question is, where was she?
  13. KARAKURT15 19 May 2020 20: 50 New
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    [/ quote] one of Khalifa Haftar’s Pantsir-S1E air defense missile defense system managed to destroy 16 Turkish Bayraktar TB2 drones [quote]

    Rzhunemogu .. How quickly counted! Previously, they didn’t stutter about such news)) What kind of statistics, why such a blizzard?
  14. KARAKURT15 19 May 2020 21: 05 New
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    Quote: APASUS
    Quote: qobnvmog
    - A figure from the air, nowhere is there any confirmation.

    Have you tried searching, or so out of habit?


    Did he fall so neatly on the playground or was he dragged? wink
  15. tekinoral 19 May 2020 21: 16 New
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    Quote: APASUS
    Quote: qobnvmog
    Yeah. All 16 in one frame.

    I didn’t particularly resting found 6

    Where are the rest?
  16. tekinoral 19 May 2020 21: 25 New
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    [quote = Lord of the Sith] They will use against the Republics - by their own. There is something, there is experience. And they cost money. [/ Quote]
    Pansirs [quote = Lord of the Sith] Will be used against the Republics - by their own. There is something, there is experience. And they cost money. [/ Quot
    Pansirs will be more expensive wink
  17. tekinoral 19 May 2020 21: 27 New
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    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    but not cheap.

    Quote: Sky Strike fighter
    Bayraktar is definitely not cheap. Darling despite the fact that, as you put it, there are plenty of them all.

    Do you work in production accounting Bayraktar?
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  19. tekinoral 19 May 2020 21: 34 New
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    Quote: Break through
    About 40 bikars shot down the Shell. The shells have long paid for themselves many times)

    Were the shells your personal property? And do you pay money for the downed Bayraktar? winked You make money in quarantine smile
  20. tekinoral 19 May 2020 23: 07 New
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    [quote = Sky Strike fighter] What are you saying. Do the Turks have something like our S-70? [
    And where is it that there are no analogues in the world? Has it gone into production? Are you using it somewhere?
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    [quote = tekinoral] [quote = Sky Strike fighter] What are you saying. Do the Turks have something like our S-70? [
    And where is it that there are no analogues in the world? Has it gone into production? Are you using it somewhere? [/ Quote]
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  23. tekinoral 19 May 2020 23: 23 New
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    wait soon
  24. Gato 20 May 2020 02: 01 New
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    6 UAVs at 2 stations - generally nothing. Based on the application concept, such UAVs alone can be used either with complete superiority in the air (including with suppressed air defense), or against the Papuans.
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      such UAVs alone can be used either with complete superiority in the air (including with suppressed air defense), or against the Papuans.

      Sergei. Have you looked for the Arctic? There seems to be outlined ....
  25. Alexey from Perm 20 May 2020 10: 23 New
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    as always a cheers-patriotic little article, the author of this satellite would be put in a tank or infantry fighting vehicle, and shock UAVs would fly over it, I think he would eat his little article with fear ..
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    Downed UAV
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    Some in Syria including Anka
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    Downed UAV .Livia
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    Syria ANKAS