The threat of encirclement south of Tripoli arose over the forces of Marshal Haftar

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From Libya, information continues to come about the transition of Al-Vatiya airbase to the control of the forces of the so-called Government of National Accord. This government, led by Fayez Saraj, is considered legitimate by the United Nations. Recall that earlier the command of the PNS forces declared "a lightning assault on the putschists' positions (as the Libyan National Army is called in Tripoli - approx." Military Review ") after several days of shelling their positions."

If you take into account this statement of the officers of the PNS troops, then the final assault on Al-Vatiya cannot be called unexpected for the forces of Marshal Khalifa Haftar.



Today, reports come from the west of Libya that, with the support of Turkish forces, PNS troops regrouped and are trying to encircle the forces of the Libyan National Army. With the active support of Turkey, as well as with the support of pro-Turkish militants deployed from the north-west of the Syrian Arab Republic, the troops of Saraj took control of the cities of Al-Javsh, Badr and Tichi (Tiji). The threat of encirclement of Haftar forces is high.

Thus, it can be stated that Haftar’s troops actually “overslept” the formation of the strike forces of their opponents, if at all they were going to conduct active battles after the proclamation by the Field Marshal of the transfer of power in the country “to the hands of the LNA”. The formation of shock groups of the PNS and Turkish forces was carried out virtually in a semicircle in the region of Al-Vatiya and several settlements near the borders with Tunisia. In this regard, the question arises, what was the military intelligence of Khalifa Haftar doing at that moment?

If the PNS and the Turkish media claim that the operation was guaranteed by the use of UAV strike drills, another question arises: why did the Pantsir air defense missile system, which the United Arab Emirates put to Haft, were in the hangar during these attacks? Was it defective and undergoing repairs? Or were they not originally going to use it? And the use of other air defense systems in a single version in the middle of the desert is more than a strange decision, given the fact that these systems were destroyed or damaged by air and ground attacks.

In this regard, some experts believe that the surrender of Al-Vatiya along with the actual refusal to conduct full-fledged battles while possessing a large arsenal of effective weapons and military technology can speak either of the extremely low competence of Haftar officers, or of the presence in the command circles of forces at least sympathetic to the enemy.

The threat of encirclement south of Tripoli arose over the forces of Marshal Haftar


In the meantime, the trophy ZRPK “Shell” on the MAN chassis of the PNS was transported to Tripoli using an auto platform and transported through the city streets as a demonstration of its military success.
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  1. But this is serious ...
    1. +3
      19 May 2020
      It is necessary to remind Haftar that "field marshals are not hanged", you never know ...
      1. 0
        19 May 2020
        The hawtor is not a "field marshal" - he is a complete marshal!
  2. +1
    19 May 2020
    Or "grandfather" is about to retire.
  3. 0
    19 May 2020
    They threw the "bros" of Haftar, as they threw Saddam in their time.
  4. +1
    19 May 2020
    with the support of Turkish forces PNS troops regrouped and try to encircle the forces of the Libyan National Army
    If not for Turkey, what successes would the "legitimate" Saraj report on? So, as before, he received jaws and cried in front of the world community.
    "Pantsir" ... was taken through the city streets as a demonstration of their military success.
    In the east and do not boast.
    1. -1
      19 May 2020
      And if not for the Egypt of the Russian Federation and the UAE Haftar, what was he reporting about?
      1. +1
        19 May 2020
        actually, Turkish troops are fighting for Saraj with full military equipment
    2. +2
      19 May 2020
      It's true. According to the latest data, 1 Turkish missile frigate, 3 UAVs "Anka-S", up to 10 "Bayraktar", 800-850 Syrian fighters, 200-250 fighters of the PNS took part in the assault on the air base. They talk about helping Italy. The air defense of the base and the main points of defense were suppressed by cruise missiles from a frigate, then - a matter of technology. The Idlib militants finished off, the locals danced against the background of the burnt "Shell". Business then.
      Egypt, the UAE and France have tensed, it seems, will sharply increase aid to Haftar, and not only with weapons. Even Putin called the Sultan. We are waiting for the answer.
      By the way, stop repeating the nonsense about the legitimacy of the Sarraj government. He was given "legality" for 2 years to prepare and conduct the all-Libyan elections. These two years have already ended 4 years ago.
      1. +3
        19 May 2020
        To whom is the answer? To the Turks? Yes, we in Syria will not give them an answer ... Let's pretend to be hoses and say that Russia is not there ... Failsafe, proven method ....
        1. +1
          20 May 2020
          The answer is not from Russia, but from the main sponsors of Haftar. And about Russia in Syria. We quickly forgot February-March of this year. Or would you just spit in Russia?
    3. 0
      20 May 2020
      Quote: rotmistr60
      If not for Turkey, what successes would the "legitimate" Saraj report on? So, as before, he received jaws and cried in front of the world community.

      The Turkish tactics of using shock UAVs in conjunction with self-propelled guns, recently developed in Syria, apparently in Libya, turned out to be very successful. Most likely, in Syria, after our guys have analyzed such tactics, it would not have worked the second time. And in Libya it went off with a bang. Apparently, Haftar's officers do not know how to analyze and learn from other people's mistakes. For this they were punished.
  5. +2
    19 May 2020
    "Why was the Pantsir air defense missile system, which the UAE delivered to Haftar, was in the hangar during these strikes?" They write and say that they were only brought on trailers and did not have time to use. When they were transported, they were followed by an enemy reconnaissance UAV throughout the journey As soon as they drove into the hangar, they immediately bombed them.
    1. -4
      19 May 2020
      Quote: Oquzyurd
      "Why was the Pantsir air defense missile system, which the UAE supplied to Haftar, was in the hangar during these strikes?"

      --------------------------
      If Haftar does not want to pay, then who will serve the equipment for him? They sent "Field Marshal" in a certain direction. He's not fighting for "great Libya", but for money.
    2. +4
      19 May 2020
      They rolled them out. And then they hid it.

      Here specifically captured.


      Video - why he got caught, it’s just the UAV that shoots as the Carapace moves into this hangar.
      https://twitter.com/Acemal71/status/1261768256496558081

      Here is the second, which was overwhelmed, became, it is unclear the truth, what hit it so that the shelter was formed:


    3. +1
      19 May 2020
      And they didn’t even camouflage with tarpaulin on the trawl and rode around the base in the stowed position, when a Turkish UAV drove into the hangar and shot it, even there is already a video from the UAV.
  6. +2
    19 May 2020
    I think this trophy will be delivered to Turkey in the near future. Their defense industry is quite serious. So that they will untwist and blind similar under the ASELSAN brand)))
    1. +1
      19 May 2020
      you write nonsense if they were sold with a s400, who prevented them from buying a shell, and for a long time
      1. -2
        19 May 2020
        Why buy? When possible as the Chinese, looked and did. No need to pay anything to anyone ....
        1. -2
          19 May 2020
          Moreover, they have their own. They'll see how to put everything together))))


  7. -2
    19 May 2020
    It looks like the "Shell" was out of order, otherwise it would not have been carried on the platform, but defiantly rolled. The seizure of the airbase and the big noise in the media is a balm for Erdogan's soul and a trump card in front of the opposition. Sweet dreams in the clothes of the Sultan will be dreamed more often.
    1. -5
      19 May 2020
      Yes, for God's sake ... let them dream ..., the main thing is not to forget how the fall of the Golden Port began.
      (It seems that he not only did not forget, but also did not know)
      1. +3
        19 May 2020
        Quote: Dysindich
        Golden ports.

        When the High Port and the Golden Horde were mixed in a person’s head, I really want to trump with historical knowledge.
        1. +1
          19 May 2020
          Quote: pereselenec
          Quote: Dysindich
          Golden ports.

          When the High Port and the Golden Horde were mixed in a person’s head, I really want to trump with historical knowledge.

          Not, but if a person wrote vodka with beer - for the soul, so to speak? You can not write this laughing I judge it myself, if that drinks
        2. +2
          20 May 2020
          It’s like the union of chewing gums that the neighbor’s child spoke about. He knew the names of the chewing gums, Dirol and Stimorol, always confused them, he arbitrarily spoke-Dimorol)
  8. -2
    19 May 2020
    Haftar has problems with tactics
    1. ABM
      +2
      19 May 2020
      With strategy too
    2. -3
      19 May 2020
      the main thing is the problems with the cadres, well, against the army of such a state as Turkey, its forces do not roll in a direct clash, only partisan tactics like the Hussites pinch the Saudis
    3. +1
      20 May 2020
      He has a bunch of advisers.
  9. -1
    19 May 2020
    The havtor proclaiming himself a single ruler, in fact, became the third party to the conflict .. The House of Representatives, which supported the havtor, I think this is not enthusiastic about this. Each military force should also have political power ... It voluntarily renounced this political power. .
    And now the whole group in the West has fallen into such a situation that it seems like there is no way back (the Ways of retreat under the BLPA and artillery strikes), and there is no point in stepping forward (Saraj’s forces have wedged deep into the flanks) .. The case may end in a tight ring and destruction of the whole group ..And then you have to fight at the gates of Benghazi .. And there he can be betrayed by former political allies, whom he threw
  10. -2
    19 May 2020
    Turks maladchaga clearly worked.
    electronic warfare complex Russian-made Krasukh sent to the scrap
    1. +1
      20 May 2020
      I read ... But I think this is a secret from our citizens or fake.
  11. 0
    19 May 2020
    That is, the Turks are tired of playing cat and mouse between drones and shells. We lost a couple of drones and decided to show who is in charge. Now they will fly quietly.
  12. -2
    19 May 2020
    Shame: some fat bearded schoolchildren in slippers and rusty Kalashi in hard-fingered fingers drove off the whole MARSHAL.
    1. -1
      20 May 2020
      Quote: pereselenec
      Shame: some fat bearded schoolchildren in slippers and rusty Kalashi in hard-fingered fingers drove off the whole MARSHAL.

      So MARSHAL is the same.
  13. -4
    19 May 2020
    They need more "needles" or better "willows".
  14. -1
    19 May 2020
    I see the number of players in the Libyan conflict is increasing, and the parties began to take direct part.
  15. -2
    19 May 2020
    This government, led by Fayez Saraj, is considered legitimate by the United Nations.
    Well? - And who is considered not legitimate? And what to do?
  16. 0
    19 May 2020
    That is, the liberation of Shugalei by Haftar is postponed?
  17. +1
    19 May 2020
    Well, as I see it, Haftar has all the problems due to the fact that the Russian authorities ceased to support him, to put it mildly. Of course, the Russian Federation was not there in the first roles, but at some point they tried to bet on him. Like it or not, those who are now in power in Libya are more likely bandits. But, officially they are recognized and supporting Haftar openly, the Russian Federation could put themselves in a very unpleasant position, already abroad.
    Still, it seems to me, Haftar himself was a little starry.
    and the Turks, having thrown into Libya experienced and motivated bandits from Syria, simply create a very not bad position for themselves.
    And what else you should pay attention to:
    At the moment, in Libya, the Russian Federation and Turkey have switched places against the background of Syria. The Turks can legally supply weapons there and help personnel in general. Russia, if it intervenes on the side of Haftar, will look very faded, as this will be regarded as interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state, and also on the side of the illegal armed groups.
    The cool thing is that Turkey in Syria, being essentially an occupier and sponsor of terrorists, doesn’t bother anyone in the world about this.
    And in this situation, the Government and the Foreign Ministry can not do anything. Since the gut is too thin.
    1. +1
      20 May 2020
      Quote: AwaZ
      And in this situation, the Government and the Foreign Ministry can not do anything. Since the gut is too thin.

      Yes, it should be recognized that Erdrgan’s gut will be thicker.
  18. 0
    19 May 2020
    [/ quote] on the transition of Al-Vatiya airbase to the control of forces the so-called National Consent Governments [quote]

    The author is not friends with the official position of the Russian Foreign Ministry?
  19. +3
    19 May 2020
    Are our partners attacking our allies? There is nothing to cheat if we cannot force our interests through ... Strategists are weak. But there are no Turks. Turkish state eggs are stronger than Russian state eggs today.
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      1. 0
        20 May 2020
        Then why there PMCs? No spirit, let them sit quietly .. PMCs have never won wars. But the authority of the state among potential allies and faith in our strength, the strength of our weapons are easy to lose, fighting everywhere quietly and half-heartedly. It just doesn't make sense. I went to fight - win, and not scratch eggs for years!
  20. 0
    19 May 2020
    I do not understand, we supported the UN in Libya! What are you talking about?
  21. 0
    20 May 2020
    Well, duck a few Shells in every way will not change the course of the war. Moreover, in fact, the war with Turkey, plus its own PPPs.

    Well and most likely, the shells are not so effective than when they receive target designation with c400 (weak radars)
  22. 0
    21 May 2020
    I still do not understand who to "root for" here.
  23. 0
    21 May 2020
    Quote: pereselenec
    Quote: Dysindich
    Golden ports.

    When the High Port and the Golden Horde were mixed in a person’s head, I really want to trump with historical knowledge.

    --------------------------------
    Actually - the Brilliant Porta (that's why I mixed it up).
    This is better than ranting about a country I have never been to ... (like - deep sofa analytics ...)

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