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Under the hood of Soros

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Have you read his Capital?



Even at the exit from global self-isolation, there is no shortage of apocalyptic predictions. Someone in a hurry to send the EU or the United States into oblivion, and the Russian opposition, together with the Western media, under the impression of the excessive independence of our governors, are talking about the impending collapse of Russia.

Of the largest media personalities, so far only George Soros has seriously touched us, he is Gyorgy Shorosh, a Jew from Budapest, whose father, in the years of friendship with the Third Reich, changed his dangerous name Schwartz to a more Hungarian one.

This most experienced financier and investor, the most famous privatizer and disintegrator, once got burned on the acquisition of Svyazinvest in our country. This dubious telecommunication structure almost did not have real assets, and securities due to the crisis fell significantly. Soros in his hearts called this purchase "the worst investment of his life" and now prefers to get to unlimited Russian resources as if from the sidelines.

But now the focus of his attention is primarily on the European Union, and only behind it are Ukraine and the Baltic states. But on the other hand, together with them, under the cap of Soros today, all of Russia's partners in the Eurasian Economic Community, which is experiencing a viral crisis, are not as painful as they could have been feared.

Most likely, this annoys the old lover to “earn extra money” from other people's problems. George Soros not only expresses doubts about the future of the European Union, he strongly criticizes the Eurasian Economic Community, believing that it operates exclusively "under the dictation of Putin."

George Soros does not consider the future of the EAEU to be any bright, but he has already managed to predict the collapse of the EU, but this is perceived by many not as a forecast, but as something like a guide to action. Experts who believe that with the participation of Soros in the United States are now developing a strategy for delivering a series of attacks combining economic and political decisions, there is every reason for such assessments.

However, the EU, this is an obvious “weak link”, in such forecasts is somehow pushed into the background, assuming that the first direction for the US strike will be China, and after it - Russia. Do not forget that the unprecedented pressure on the Celestial Empire in the form of trade wars began even before the COVID-19 pandemic. And only then, after the PRC, and after it the RF, should the European Union fall.

How much is the smile of Soros


Judging by the recent statements of Soros, he really likes the scenarios of the collapse of such supranational associations as the EU and the USSR. They are very similar to each other and, probably, reminiscent of the last convulsions of the dying British Empire, on which an American businessman with Hungarian roots pretty well made. Today, it is perceived as a fact that it was Soros who took advantage of the financial difficulties of the British and simply took off the cream, bringing down the pound.


It was by no means accidental that the British, who launched Brexit, were the first to leave the sinking ship of the European Union. It seems that someone long before the coronavirus received some insider information about the willingness of the dexterous manipulator Soros to deal with the EU and the euro. One cannot but recall that, compared with the current united Europe, the Soviet Union was in even better condition at the beginning of perestroika. At least he had an almost self-sufficient economy.

It is still not entirely clear what kind of cycle the USSR ran into then, but now all sorts of finish lines can be seen very clearly. And it became so largely thanks to Brexit, and then to the coronavirus. Most importantly, the cycle of Eurocentrism is ending with the USA constantly looming behind. Marshall’s seventy-year-old plan, like Keynes’s system based solely on the dollar, has been virtually archived.

The global COVID-19 pandemic simply provided a convenient excuse to immediately tackle the development and redistribution of trillions of euros and dollars. There were enough real reasons even before that, but now it’s all about the speed with which one can buy up securities and take over enterprises in segments of the real economy. And the experience of such masters of financial and economic collapse as George Soros is simply invaluable here.

This is not a crisis, this is a benefit


The virus itself is an incomparable convenient screen for conspiring with global financial structures and politicians, even if it’s probably a secret one. It's just that this audience knows how to cooperate, and without the go-ahead, better than small business and the masses. They have the same interests and life principles, they understand each other without words.

The coronacrisis is a real benefit of financiers, the very structures that thirty years ago, in conjunction with the same George Soros, brought down the British pound in the 90s and ruined millions of British. The financial sector, which has seriously tarnished its reputation after blowing bubbles like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac by 2008, has long and tightly controlled the US Federal Reserve and the IMF, as well as numerous banking groups and transnational corporations.


In the wake of the crisis, the financiers took a break, which allowed the Republican Donald Trump to be elected. This realist and pragmatist was supported mainly by industrialists and even oil workers, who, as a rule, are mostly for the southerly democrats. Now, however, these structures, by the way, do not hide their support for the US Democratic Party and Trump's rival, 77-year-old Joseph Biden, who, it would seem, has long been decommissioned.

However, compared to the 89-year-old guru of financial combinations, George Soros, presidential contender Joe Biden is just a kid. Therefore, the activity of the eldest of them is much more striking than the indefatigable desire for power of the younger. If Biden is elected, the financiers will become the ultimate recipients of the benefits of the crisis, packed in quarantine masks and gloves.

And if China, the first to get out from the press of the “Chinese syndrome,” is now buying up Asian and African “lying” assets, while Soros is completely shamelessly aiming for privatization. All that can still be privatized where it is later convenient to get to "under-privatized" Russia.

Chubais is Soros today


With the filing of Soros and Co., the process of transferring land operations in Ukraine to commercial rails has already moved forward, lists of the most attractive assets for purchase in the Baltic countries have already been drawn up. In these lists, by the way, there are a lot of enterprises that did not interrupt, and often increased economic ties with Russia and its EAEU partners.


Most likely, George Soros's additional interest in privatization in Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia is also stimulated by the well-known frugality of the Baltic countries. So, in Latvia alone, 4,1 billion euros are now reserved, which can be claimed and disbursed immediately after the crisis.

Obviously, the governments of many countries where the economy does not have a serious margin of safety, under plausible slogans of optimizing spending after the crisis, including to pay off the public debt, will take measures that they could hardly dare before the crisis.

And first of all, it will be about the delivery of the most profitable industry assets to privatization. On this occasion, Anatoly Chubais, who once had a hand in Soros’s “biggest failure”, hurried to check in. He has already managed to declare that privatization after the crisis is almost the best medicine for the economy.

However, Chubais is by no means alone in his bid for privatization, which "together with the weakening role of the state in the national economy (excluding fiscal policy) will create new opportunities for business development in efficient sectors." The digital economy and, first of all, the effective ones are called the agricultural sector, the fate of which, frankly, is now simply scary.

And such recipes as those of the “privatizer of all Russia”, and even with Soros sauce, are especially interesting against the background of the speeches of completely different experts alien to frenzied liberalism. For example, well-known analyst and forecaster Mikhail Khazin bluntly said that sooner or later Putin will have to cancel the pension reform after the crisis. His mouth ...
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  1. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 20 May 2020 04: 46 New
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    Две жизни не проживут,и больше двух метров не дадут,как этот тип с "исключительной" нации всех достал,да ещё и рыжий еже с ним.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 20 May 2020 05: 57 New
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      Great article! The author poses a problem with understanding.

      Soros is a financial speculator of the highest guild. Yes, people like him, now quietly seem to be sitting in the shade, are not exposed especially to the public, but they know their business well.

      Of all the parasites in the capitalist world, the most parasitic are the so-called INVESTORS, like Soros, who act on the principle of investing money under a usurious interest dictated from above or under certain conditions for the purchase of enterprises, land, mineral resources, etc. wealth.
      И нынешняя ситуация в мире - это действительно "БЕНИФИС" и ускоренный ажиотаж для таких вот "хозяев денег", как Сорос и Ко с его "чубайсятами" в нашей стране.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 20 May 2020 06: 09 New
        +9
        Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
        Две жизни не проживут,и больше двух метров не дадут,как этот тип с "исключительной" нации всех достал,да ещё и рыжий еже с ним.

        For these people, the feeling of satiety with other people's wealth is pathologically and vividly absent completely.
        These are biological and psychic degenerates of the human race, in which the egoistic GREED has no limit. They provoke and arrange all wars in the world.

        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 20 May 2020 06: 47 New
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          And if China, the first to get out from the press of the “Chinese syndrome,” is now buying up Asian and African “lying” assets, while Soros is completely shamelessly aiming for privatization. All that can still be privatized where it is later convenient to get to "under-privatized" Russia.

          Russian economist-patriots have many times raised the question of the nationalization of foreign assets in our country - in the Russian Federation.
          Maybe that sounds blasphemous. But we have in Russia today more than 65% of foreign property in the territory. And big business is 90% foreign, not ours.

          What do you think, for the remaining 10% of large domestic business in the Russian Federation, can you successfully develop the economy of your country and the social protection of your own population, including demography, pensions, etc.? Of course not!
          Such a ratio of 10% of large domestic business is not found in any DEVELOPED country in the world! (In developed countries, large domestic business reaches up to 70%, but not less than 50%.)
          What national sovereignty of our country can we talk about ?!
          1. CSKA
            CSKA 20 May 2020 13: 38 New
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            Quote: Tatiana
            But we have in Russia today more than 65% of foreign property in the territory.

            What kind of property? And where do such calculations come from? And what are they measured in? In money, in real estate, in the price of assets?
            Quote: Tatiana
            And big business is 90% foreign, not ours.

            )))) Is Rosneft, Gazprom, Sberbank, Rostec, Nornickel, Rusal, UAC, USC not ours?
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 20 May 2020 15: 42 New
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              Зампредседателя Комитета ГД РФ по экономической политике, промышленности, инновационному развитию и предпринимательству Николай Арефьев заявляет о существовании «блатной экономики» и "блатных" способах разрешения кризисных проблем из-за коронавируса в РФ на примере списка СИСТЕМООБРАЗУЮЩИХ предприятий в России. А именно.
              Firstly. To the question of "thieves economy."
              All ministries associated with the economy are given the task of compiling lists of backbone enterprises. The Minister instructs to make such lists subordinates, departments, agencies. Well, they immediately ring up interested parties. They ask: “How much will you give us to turn you on?”
              Therefore, these backbone enterprises did not fall at all backbone and not Russian enterprises at all, but foreign ones. We have repeatedly raised the question of the nationalization of foreign assets. Maybe that sounds blasphemous. But today we have more than 65% of foreign property in the territory. And big business is 90% foreign, not ours.
              Now the question is, what to do? This is a foreign business, and either they will stop working and people will be kicked out, or we should help foreigners from the budget - American “Pepsi-Colam”, “McDonald's” to give money so that, God forbid, they would not close and drive out our people.
              Today, Russia has hit double ticks.
              Last year, The USA has taken away Russian Aluminum from us. And now, for the profit of Rusal, an aluminum plant is being built in the United States, in Detroit. And now we must provide assistance to this Rusal, also on the lists of backbone enterprises. In fact, we from the budget funds of Russia, from the pockets of our taxpayers should give bribes for the construction of an aluminum plant in the United States.
              Secondly. A safety cushion was created in order to protect oneself from unforeseen cases just in case. An unexpected case has arrived. And how is it being spent now?
              Now the head of the Ministry of Finance A. Siluanov says: we will not scatter money from the “helicopter”. What is it in other countries that they print and scatter money. But 11 trillion rubles were withdrawn from the budget, in fact, kindergartens, schools, the entire population were robbed. Pensions were taken away from people. And now Siluanov says that he will not give this money away.
              Minister of Social Development said that for these 2 months to May 1, they paid people as much as 1,5 billion rubles. This also applies to the unemployed. I calculated how many people we have below the poverty line, how many they should be when the standard of living falls by 30%. We had to pay 350 billion rubles a month to our people so that they would not feel discomfort due to the coronavirus. But we paid only 1,5 billion.
              First, Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin said: “Probably, 1,5 trillion will be enough for us for all these coronavirus costs.” Now they say that they paid 2,2 trillion rubles. Who paid?
              If 1,5 billion paid to people. So to whom have you given these trillions? To all these Pepsi-Colas?
              The result was a “wonderful” picture: 58% of small businesses said that they did not fall under any privileges at all. 33% said they continue to lay off workers or send them on unpaid leave.
              Etc.
              См. подробно - https://howto-news.info/na-nashi-dengi-v-ssha-stroitsya-alyuminievyj-zavod-kak-rabotaet-blatnaya-ekonomika/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=infox.sg&utm_campaign=exchange

              Rusal is building a plant in the United States. Sanctions lifted on April 17 2019 year
              1. CSKA
                CSKA 21 May 2020 14: 04 New
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                Quote: Tatiana
                Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Economic Policy, Industry, Innovative Development and Entrepreneurship Nikolai Arefiev declares

                What are you? He declared. And who is God? Is he the ultimate knowledgeable authority? Is he a Nobel laureate in economics? No, he is a member of the Communist Party.))))))))))) So the critic of everything and everyone. In 1979 he graduated from the Astrakhan Technological Institute of the Fishing Industry and Economy, in 1990 - from the Saratov Higher Party School with a degree in economics. ))))))))))))) And that's it. All he talked there is rubbish. The pill was just the power and was created for spending in a crisis, which is done.
                And the fact that Rusal is building a plant in the USA, so they have the right to build it wherever they want as a private corporation, only that you don’t really want to remember that they also built the Khakassky aluminum plant and the Boguchansky aluminum plant in Russia, and modernization of production. What an uncomfortable truth?
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 21 May 2020 14: 19 New
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                  And the fact that Rusal lost a controlling stake and transferred a 60% stake in the United States does not mean that the Khakassky aluminum smelter and the Boguchansky aluminum smelter in Russia can simply be closed by foreign owners at any time, as it was in 1990 in RF?
                  What do they produce at the Khakassky aluminum plant and the Boguchansky aluminum plant in Russia? Aluminum hire? This is again a commodity economy. and nothing more!
                  1. CSKA
                    CSKA 21 May 2020 15: 09 New
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                    Quote: Tatiana
                    And the fact that Rusal lost a controlling stake and transferred 60% of the US shares,

                    Oh my God. Again this nonsense. Made up by some kind of stupid person. As of the beginning of 2019, 50,10% of the company's shares belong to the energy holding En + (Deripaska), Sual Partners shareholders - 26,5%, 6,78% - Glencore through Amokenga Holdings. 16,62% are in free float. Where did you find the USA there? Is the US a corporation? name at least one company in the world where the USA as a state controls any percentage of shares.
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    that the Khakassky aluminum smelter and the Boguchansky aluminum smelter in the Russian Federation can simply be closed by foreign owners at any moment, as was the case in the Russian Federation in 1990?

                    Kindergarten. If any US company owned them and suddenly decided to close (probably if the entire board of directors had delirium tremens that they refused to make a profit and decided to close the plant), then the plants would be nationalized and resold. Do you even know one such precedent in the world? And the corporation from the USA itself, well, the maximum that would have made it a loss-making plant sold, and not just closed.
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    What do they produce at the Khakassky aluminum plant and the Boguchansky aluminum plant in Russia? Aluminum hire? This is again a commodity economy. and nothing more!

                    Well, that’s it. This is just the end of sound logic. belay fool And what should a corporation producing aluminum do aircraft? And for your information, aluminum is not a raw material, but a value-added product.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 21 May 2020 15: 34 New
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                      Quote: CSKA
                      Well, that’s it. This is just the end of sound logic. And what should a corporation producing aluminum do aircraft? And for your information, aluminum is not a raw material, but a value-added product.

                      You at least watch the exposed video carefully to the end and understand the essence of the problem!
                      US sanctions raider squeezed a controlling stake in Rusal in Russia, and Washington does not cost anything to squeeze from Rusal in the United States.
                      And we will not receive any technology from the USA for using them in the Russian Federation. Go down in your naive dreams from the clouds to the earth!
                      1. CSKA
                        CSKA 21 May 2020 16: 12 New
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                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Go down in your naive dreams from the clouds to the earth!

                        You seem to live on earth, and reason like a young child.)))
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        You at least watch the exposed video carefully to the end and understand the essence of the problem!

                        What is that. Again, as with the parade in the BR in our last conversation with you. That they didn’t bother to answer the question of what is so historical in the Victory Parade in the BR that is now.)))) Yes, you just have nothing to answer. There is no problem. You made it up.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        US sanctions raider squeezed a controlling stake in Rusal in Russia

                        You can call white black; therefore, white will not become black. I gave you the percentage of shares above and to whom it belongs, but you all continue to be nonsense about the fact that the United States belongs. Again. The USA is not a private company owning any factories. They have everything in private ownership. They do not have state corporations.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        and it’s not worth anything for Washington to squeeze from Rusal in the USA.

                        Приведите хоть пример когда и у кого правительство США "отжимало", как вы выразились, что либо.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        And we will not receive any technology from the USA for using them in the Russian Federation.

                        laughing Technology of what? Aluminum production? I’ll tell you a secret. We have it for a long time. You do not even own the essence of the matter. And the USA is that a research institute, that it has technologies in any industry? Technology has of private corporations and they most often sell them.
                        All you write is the level of the lesson in the economy of the middle classes. At the same time, you, as a schoolboy, consider the situation from a child’s point of view and use the statements of some people and the chatter of grandmothers near the entrance. You absolutely do not understand the corporate structure and are unlikely to have been to any plant.
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 21 May 2020 16: 59 New
                        +1
                        Quote: CSKA
                        Technology of what? Aluminum production? I’ll tell you a secret. We have it for a long time.

                        The technology of DEEP aluminum processing, which is not available in the Russian Federation, is only going to be mastered using the example of a new Rusal plant under construction in the USA.
                        I gave you the percentage of shares above and to whom it belongs, but you all continue to be nonsense about the fact that the United States belongs. Again. The USA is not a private company owning any factories. They have everything in private ownership. They do not have state corporations.
                        You must have studied at the school in the 1990s, and you have not seen how raiders squeeze enterprises from private owners. Privatized enterprises as private were even easier for raiders to squeeze out from their owners.

                        The enterprise itself as a tangible asset is more valuable than paper assets. And it will remain in the event of the robbery of Deribaska in the USA itself and will work for the US economy on Trump. After all, Deribaska will not take him with him to Russia. That's all!
                        А убытки такой политики "Русала" Дерибаске опять будут из бюджета РФ покрывать!
                      3. CSKA
                        CSKA 26 May 2020 09: 24 New
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                        Quote: Tatiana
                        The technology of DEEP aluminum processing, which is not available in the Russian Federation, is only going to be mastered using the example of a new Rusal plant under construction in the USA.

                        So it turns out that technology will still be shared by the USA?)))) And you write that it is not.
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        You must have studied at the school in the 1990s, and you have not seen how raiders squeeze enterprises from private owners. Privatized enterprises as private were even easier for raiders to squeeze out from their owners.

                        So now is not the 90s. Wake up. And this is what you call an argument? Should everything be state-owned due to raiders?
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        The enterprise itself as a tangible asset is more valuable than paper assets. And it will remain in the event of the robbery of Deribaska in the USA itself and will work for the US economy on Trump. After all, Deribaska will not take him with him to Russia. That's all!

                        Again. When did the US government squeeze businesses on its territory from anyone?
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        А убытки такой политики "Русала" Дерибаске опять будут из бюджета РФ покрывать!

                        When from the budget of the Russian Federation covered the losses of Rusal?
                        Some empty words invented by you. Not a single proof of anything. And at least look correctly at how a person’s last name is spelled.
                      4. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 26 May 2020 10: 09 New
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                        Quote: CSKA
                        When from the budget of the Russian Federation covered the losses of Rusal?

                        Purchase of aluminum in Rosrezerv, the tax on bicycles.
                        Quote: CSKA
                        50,10% of the company's shares are owned by the energy holding En + (Deripaska)

                        Where the chairman is Lord Barker.
                      5. CSKA
                        CSKA 27 May 2020 11: 42 New
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                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Purchase of aluminum in Rosrezerv

                        ))))) В 2018 году аж 50 тыс.т. В 2017 году "Русал" произвел 3,7 млн тонн первичного алюминия. Прям за счет бюджета Русал покрывает убытки..))))))
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        bike tax.

                        How could this tax help Rusal?))))) He has a net profit for 2018 of 1,7 billion dollars.
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Where the chairman is Lord Barker.

                        So what? Anyone can be the chairman; from this, he does not become the owner of the company.
    2. vavilon
      vavilon 20 May 2020 20: 58 New
      +2
      Dear interlocutor, all of the listed enterprises by you are really not well Russian, there is only a controlling stake in Russia and this is 51% and where else 49, why do not they want to disclose the owners of the remaining block of shares so that the Russians know their heroes in person, and this is financially plan another shadow state
      1. CSKA
        CSKA 21 May 2020 14: 11 New
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        Quote: vavilon
        Dear interlocutor, all of the listed enterprises by you are really not well Russian, there is only a controlling stake in Russia and this is 51% and where else 49, why do not they want to disclose the owners of the remaining block of shares so that the Russians know their heroes in person, and this is financially plan another shadow state

        Firstly, Rostec, UAC and USC are fully state-owned.
        Secondly. The remaining 49% rotate freely in the stock market and are not bought by private individuals, but by investment companies, banks and funds.
        Thirdly. If you think this is not right, then this is your opinion, but for your information Lenovo's main shareholders are controlled by the Chinese Academy of Sciences Legend Holdings Ltd (31,47%), US private equity funds Texas Pacific Group, General Atlantic LLC and Newbridge Capital LLC ( 2,8%), 55,1% is traded on stock exchanges. 51,8% of ZTE's shares are owned by China, 31,5% are listed on the Shenzhen Stock Exchange, 16,7% are listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange.
        The Chinese are also probably like we are stupid?))))
        1. vavilon
          vavilon 21 May 2020 14: 26 New
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          So your private capital is profitable to invest in the shares of these companies and the state doesn’t?))) Do not make me laugh, but as for China, their domestic law will prevail and not international, and if our officials were put to the wall for corruption and for bribery as in China, then we had a completely different country
          1. CSKA
            CSKA 21 May 2020 15: 15 New
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            Quote: vavilon
            So your private capital is profitable to invest in shares of these companies and the state does not?

            Which companies are not profitable for the state to invest in? What are you talking about?
            Quote: vavilon
            as for China, their domestic law will prevail and not international

            And here it is? Jurisprudence was dragged to the stock market and corporate structure not from village to city. Try to think about why the PRC simply did not take all the shares of Lenovo and ZTE, but trades them in the stock market.
            Quote: vavilon
            and if our officials were put up against the wall for corruption and bribery in China, then you and I would have had a completely different country

            Again. And here are the officials? Talk about something else. And personally, I’m not against some officials against the wall, but what do you think from this corruption will become less? In the People's Republic of China they pose and that they have overcome corruption?
            1. vavilon
              vavilon 21 May 2020 17: 07 New
              +1
              Dear interlocutor, you don’t need to turn everything upside down, you are either too smart or want to seem to them
              the bulk of the population of Russia is drumming up shares where they make money and earn money; people need stable jobs; stable income and old age; but unfortunately today the state is not able to guarantee this and provide its people with what they had in the Soviet Union
              And if you can’t pull this wagon, you need to change horses.
              1. CSKA
                CSKA 22 May 2020 11: 55 New
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                Quote: vavilon
                Dear interlocutor, you don’t need to turn everything upside down, you are either too smart or want to seem to them

                Well, like many of my friends and acquaintances say that he’s smart, I hope so.
                Quote: vavilon
                the bulk of the population of Russia is drumming up stocks where they who turn who makes money, people need stable jobs, stable income and old age just

                And you, my dear interlocutor, generalize everything and everything. We are talking about a specific topic, and you have reduced everything to the point that everything should be fine.
                Quote: vavilon
                but unfortunately today the state is not able to guarantee this and provide its people with what they had in the Soviet Union

                In Russia, most people have a stable income and stable work. The standard of living in the Russian Federation is quite high. As in many other developed countries, people buy cars and apartments on credit, go on vacation abroad. All people cannot live the same way. So it was in the USSR, also in the Russian Federation and so in all countries of the world. People are all different with different volumes of knowledge, capabilities and abilities. Therefore, to say that all the people there directly had a very conventional concept in the USSR. Probably from a good life in Novocherkassk took to the streets or from a good life in the 91st? I regret that the USSR would break up if reforms were carried out there as it once was in the PRC, then this great country would exist until now and heaps of wars could be avoided. But it was precisely the narrow-mindedness of the Communists and the structure of the CPSU that destroyed it.
              2. vavilon
                vavilon 22 May 2020 12: 15 New
                0
                thanks for the comment
                I completely agree with your point of view, but only
                how for me the union was not ruined by the CPSU, I personally knew good business executives of the ideological people of the Communists who also betrayed you and me
                I don’t know if this is my speculation, but it seems to me that it was no accident that after the death of Brezhnev, the first secretaries (Andropov, Chernenko) died in such a way clearing the way for a handful of traitors and provocateurs led by Gorbachev who purposefully led to power
              3. CSKA
                CSKA 22 May 2020 13: 16 New
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                Quote: vavilon
                I don’t know if this is my speculation, but it seems to me that it was no accident that after the death of Brezhnev, the first secretaries (Andropov, Chernenko) died in such a way clearing the way for a handful of traitors and provocateurs led by Gorbachev who purposefully led to power

                Andropov had sick kidneys, and Chernenko is already very old. It is unlikely that anyone could eliminate them all the more Andropov.
                But Gorbachev here seems to me a separate situation. I do not think that he was a traitor; he is just a rotten person. Licking every year Andropov one place, when he came to be treated in Pyatigorsk, he managed to advance to the Central Committee. Then, waiting for the moment, he managed to become the head. But being a weak politician, a mediocre economist, poorly versed in people, not understanding anything in foreign policy, loving courting and praising the West, being a henpecked man, he failed all foreign and domestic politics. He allowed the collapse of the country because he had no authority with anyone. But after a few years, being a man unable to admit his mistakes and mediocrity, he began to call himself a democrat, to tell how he wanted to give people freedom. And now he sits in London and sings his praises. He is not a traitor, he is simply a jerk.
              4. vavilon
                vavilon 22 May 2020 13: 41 New
                0
                Let's say
                Well, how then to explain the simultaneous arrival of the next traitor is the KGB chairman Kryuchkov who also made a great contribution to the collapse of the Union
                Somehow everyone agreed in one place and at one time
                Is it an accident?)
              5. CSKA
                CSKA 22 May 2020 15: 36 New
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                Quote: vavilon
                to explain the simultaneous arrival of the next traitor is the KGB chairman Kryuchkov who also made a great contribution to the collapse of the Union

                And here I didn’t understand. What is the betrayal of Kryuchkov?
              6. vavilon
                vavilon 22 May 2020 16: 31 New
                0
                Главным предателем, естественно, был Горбачев о котором можно часами говорить в негативном плане". Остальные Яковлев, Шеварднадзе, Алиев такие же предатели а Крючков им способствовал и был сторонником горбачевской перестройки
                But at that time the KGB had the opportunity to control the party elite and make appropriate decisions
                Is “inaction" not a betrayal?
              7. CSKA
                CSKA 26 May 2020 14: 41 New
                0
                Quote: vavilon
                The rest Yakovlev, Shevardnadze, Aliev are the same traitors

                Well, I would say that these are just people who quickly changed their shoes in order to stay at the shaft.
                Quote: vavilon
                Kryuchkov promoted them and was a supporter of Gorbachev perestroika

                Quote: vavilon
                Is “inaction" not a betrayal?

                Actually, he was a member of the State Emergency Committee and was just opposing Gorbachov.
                Quote: vavilon
                But at that time the KGB had the opportunity to control the party elite and make appropriate decisions

                The KGB certainly had influence, but it never controlled the party elite.
  • IC
    IC 26 May 2020 21: 38 New
    0
    Unlike Russia, China has a classical capitalist economy and an attractive investment climate. The result is obvious.
  • IC
    IC 26 May 2020 21: 35 New
    0
    You made a discovery in the economy. Economists are patriots. Before that, they were only literate or illiterate. Judging by the results of the Russian economy in recent years, the latter prevail.
  • AVTOHTON
    AVTOHTON 20 May 2020 08: 16 New
    -2
    Quote: Tatiana
    Great article! The author poses a problem with understanding.

    Soros is a financial speculator of the highest guild. Yes, people like him, now quietly seem to be sitting in the shade, are not exposed especially to the public, but they know their business well.

    The article is not bad, there is something for all of us to think about Tatyana, you, as always, see our clever girl at the root .. love
    The struggle for the souls of our children and grandchildren continues and the advantage is still on the side of such as Soros and K!
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 May 2020 05: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich
    Two lives will not live, and more than two meters will not give,
    That's right, but this one serves the idea. Satanists, their mother. angry
  • Hagalaz
    Hagalaz 20 May 2020 07: 51 New
    +3
    Unfortunately, others will be found and come out of the foreground. This is a SYSTEM!
  • Civil
    Civil 20 May 2020 07: 57 New
    +5
    So who increases prices for housing and communal services ... he also failed medicine and education. He did not raise his salary and lied at the entrance (front door).
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 20 May 2020 09: 29 New
      +6
      Quote: Civil
      So who increases prices for housing and communal services ... he also failed medicine and education. He did not raise his salary and lied at the entrance (front door).

      Well, yes, these are simple hard workers who refuse to raise their salaries and go to the entrance to a large extent. These simple hard workers do not want to learn and spit on medication for treatment. These are simple hard workers writing tearful letters to Putin, so that he would raise prices for housing and communal services, because money has nowhere to go. laughing
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 20 May 2020 04: 56 New
    +7
    In the 90s heard this Soros. Soros said that, Soros said this ... Wow, damn it, there are no words, one obscene language spins from such types. Ugh on them!
    1. AVTOHTON
      AVTOHTON 20 May 2020 08: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      In the 90s heard this Soros. Soros said that, Soros said this ... Wow, damn it, there are no words, one obscene language spins from such types. Ugh on them!

      Тоже помню эту истерию неолиберов .какой хороший меценат этот Сорос и так заботится о "демократии " в России ..Книги для школьников издает за свои деньги и т.д. ..Аж зубами заскрипел ,как вспомню.. negative
  • svp67
    svp67 20 May 2020 05: 06 New
    +9
    Judging by the recent statements of Soros, he really likes the scenarios of the collapse of such supranational associations as the EU and the USSR.
    Еще бы, в той "мутной воде" можно было столько "золотых рыбок" "наловить"...
    Плохо, что у этого типа очень много последователей и количество "соросят", в том числе и у нас предостаточно..
    1. depressant
      depressant 20 May 2020 08: 11 New
      +6
      History cannot be created by one person, only a large group of people united by a common passionate interest. And you definitely need someone who becomes an ideologist, an official spokesman for interest, a propagandist of an idea to attract new supporters - the idea must take over the masses! Otherwise, it looks strange. How it is? Soros in the amount of one thing twirls the history of mankind? Or, let’s say, the same Chubais, hated by everyone, is leading the history of our country? I do not care about the fate of the European Union, I do not care about the fate of my country. Name by name! All those who are currently shoaling the river of our history, trying to turn it into many small, drying out channels, independent of each other, due to the apparent or indeed weakening of the central authority.
    2. AVTOHTON
      AVTOHTON 20 May 2020 08: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      Плохо, что у этого типа очень много последователей и количество "соросят", в том числе и у нас предостаточно.

      Не то слово ..640 "шутников" на виртуальном "Бессмертном полке" выставили своих идеалов ..Поддатичвают основу государственности России ,только теперь уже по "хитрому"
      1. depressant
        depressant 20 May 2020 11: 06 New
        +3
        That's right, a colleague of AVTOHTON, but I would add that there is a reason that allows Soros and Chubais to hope that our country can be destroyed. Namely: the management of Russia by concepts, the compromising evidence that everyone has at all, and the laws adopted by the State Duma are all with a corruption component. And this is a system to which the population is accustomed, reconciled. For the population does not have a candle in their hands, it does not hold it with bureaucratic theft, it is helpless. Well, the official has a palace, so what? He will provide a bunch of papers about the legal origin of the property!
        Пока чиновник отстегивает наверх полагающуюся долю от распила гос.бюджета, пока проявляет лояльность к центральной власти, его терпят, поглаживая власной рукой папку с компроматом. Но стоит ему прейти грань "приличий, как из системы его выбрасывают, и снова -- тишина, которую так любят краденные деньги...
        Коронавирус дал в руки людям такую свечку -- высветилось! Путин для укрепления размывающейся на фоне короновируса центральной власти, возжелал: дать врачам по 80 тысяч рублей, дать деньги водителям, фельдшерам скорой и т.д. Заметьте, это не официальный закон, не Указ -- пожелание. Он произносит: "Мы договорились". Получается, вот так управляется страна? По понятиям? Приятно улыбнувшись и потирая руки от предвкушения кражи значительных средств, правительство тут же, не отходя от государственной кассы, 12 апреля выпускает постановление N 484, по которому миллиарды бюджетных денег распределяются по регионам, не забыв в пункте 12 этого же постановления черным по белому указать, что деньги медперсоналу выплачиваются за фактически отработанное время. То есть за время, непосредственно проведенное рядом с постелью короновирусного больного. С подлым учетом того, что не может это время исчисляться всем рабочим днем -- ни у водителя скорой, ни у санитарки, медсестры и даже у врача. Что все они находятся у постели больного в течение рабочего дня лишь считанные минуты -- вот оно! Профессионалы-законники! Мастера откатов и кражи казны! И персоналу начисляются копейки под прикрытием статьи 285.1 УК РФ о нецелевом расходовании средств ( до 5 лет лишения свободы). Мол, за лишнюю минуту переплаты сядете! А оставшимися средствами, выделенными на больницу, поделимся к обоюдному удовольствию...
        There it was! The hospital staff became furious and began to quit en masse. The people got a candle in their hands! And Putin was forced into a rage. So do not rule, mister good, on concepts! Make the right decree. Or let the Duma immediately adopt the correct law in three readings, but it can do it in three readings at once. And lawyers from the Presidential Administration should check and match with the Criminal Code with a magnifying glass. But no...
        Sooner or later, the coronavirus will pass, and everything will return to square one. And then Soros and other Chubais, smiling pleasantly and rubbing their hands from the upcoming deal, will begin to pull Russia. By concepts. I remember that either in the past or the year before last, the United States threatened to incriminate Putin. Judging by what is happening outside the hospitals, they dig.
        1. AVTOHTON
          AVTOHTON 20 May 2020 12: 47 New
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          Quote: depressant
          And then Soros and other Chubais, smiling pleasantly and rubbing their hands from the upcoming deal, will begin to pull Russia. By concepts. I remember that either in the past or the year before last, the United States threatened to incriminate Putin. Judging by what is happening outside the hospitals, they dig.

          Maybe .. hi
          Well, who is in his place, this is the question and who is to blame?
          You Lyudmila and really depressant ..
          Последний вариант ,это "Вставай проклятьем заклеменным ,весь мир рабочих и рабов ,кипит наш разум возмущенный .."
          This one, the policy option, will not be understood already ..
          Then the blood will flow ... And oh cunning club! Where will you all be? crying
          1. depressant
            depressant 20 May 2020 15: 00 New
            0
            Colleague, I am categorically against bloodshed! We are deceived by people who are very experienced in this, which means their deception must be exposed on time and not be shy to do it.
            1. AVTOHTON
              AVTOHTON 20 May 2020 15: 28 New
              0
              Quote: depressant
              Colleague, I am categorically against bloodshed!

              And I would shed .. hi A little bloodletting of Russia is very useful!
              Quote: depressant
              We are deceived by people who are very experienced in this, which means their deception must be exposed on time and not be shy to do it.

              That’s just the kind of blood that needs to be let go and others should be shown bloodied pitchforks .. So that the Russian people are not brought to sin.! hi Although in Russia, as usual, shoot so shoot, walk like a walk. Well, it started!
              1. depressant
                depressant 20 May 2020 17: 14 New
                0
                Are you young and have not learned to value human life? Appreciate! Truth is drowning in seas of blood and hopes are dying. Only the dead will not tell about it. And remember that in the modern era, large villains are tenacious, and the righteous are weak and mortal. But even villains have weaknesses through which they can be influenced. For example, pride and fear. And they really do not like to look funny.
          2. Plastmaster
            Plastmaster 20 May 2020 19: 37 New
            0
            Someone lives normally. But this does not mean that it should be so. And in the 17th. They drowned. And nothing. Weed and worry. And suddenly, how it goes there and kick them out of the elite. They are invisible fighters, meat. Not justified the trust of capital. What will they eat? And at least you can eat corpses.
  • Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 20 May 2020 05: 10 New
    0
    In Budapest there is a monument where there are many, many shoes, here to bring him there, to ask for all the deeds.
  • really
    really 20 May 2020 05: 23 New
    -5
    Simple demonization. The author didn’t accurately write that Hungary was friends with Germany, and Jews paid with their lives, the article is weak, the masses, the Jews, and other enemies are reduced to the idea everywhere, even the woman is against, and we are poor miserable
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 20 May 2020 05: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: really
      and we are poor miserable
      I hope so. repeat The pigs will die soon, along with their boss. tongue
      1. really
        really 20 May 2020 09: 41 New
        -1
        Do not wish harm to another; she may make a mistake and come to you.
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 20 May 2020 10: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: really
          Do not wish harm to another; she may make a mistake and come to you.

          Clap, the hat is on the thief. repeat I wish not trouble, but death to the enemies of Russia. angry
          1. really
            really 20 May 2020 16: 50 New
            -1
            Well, what is your right when you join them, as well as the others.
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 20 May 2020 05: 28 New
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    Of course, it’s interesting, but it would be more interesting for me to read a series of articles on the so-called privatization on how the peoples of the USSR robbed and threw the USSR, who owns the largest enterprises, deposits, factories, etc., as I say, not a writer, but a reader, Alexey how do you such an idea?
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 20 May 2020 05: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: Pessimist22
      it would be more interesting to read a series of articles on the so-called privatization at VO, how the peoples of the USSR were robbed and thrown,
      Order super-historian V. Shpakovsky, repeat he will paint a joyful picture on the archives of Mr. Penza. fellow
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 20 May 2020 06: 09 New
        +5
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Order super-historian V. Shpakovsky, he will paint a joyful picture on the archives of Penza.

        Shpakovsky grant from Soros has already received. So he is unlikely to trample against him. Well, if you pay only separately. laughing
        1. sergo1914
          sergo1914 20 May 2020 07: 44 New
          0
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Order super-historian V. Shpakovsky, he will paint a joyful picture on the archives of Penza.

          Shpakovsky grant from Soros has already received. So he is unlikely to trample against him. Well, if you pay only separately. laughing


          “I will outlive you all. You do not know Panikovsky. Panikovsky will sell you all, buy and sell you again, but already more expensive. ” - something like this?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 20 May 2020 07: 52 New
            0
            Quote: sergo1914
            I will outlive you all. You do not know Panikovsky. Panikovsky will sell you all, buy and sell you again, but already more expensive. ” - something like this?

            Yeah. On the advice of Soros in the 90s, they defaulted.
        2. Million
          Million 20 May 2020 07: 53 New
          +2
          Soros, Chubais, Shpakovsky something unites ....
          1. AVTOHTON
            AVTOHTON 20 May 2020 08: 04 New
            +2
            Quote: Million
            Soros, Chubais, Shpakovsky something unites ....

            wassat good Also noticed this .. hi
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            On the advice of Soros in the 90s, they defaulted.

            Черт с ним с дефолтом ,а вот "реформа" образования была под его спонсорством ,те же учебники и всякие семинары учителей за рубежом..Сейчас за голову хватаемся одни юристы и экономисты Жуть !
      2. apro
        apro 20 May 2020 06: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Quote: Pessimist22
        it would be more interesting to read a series of articles on the so-called privatization at VO, how the peoples of the USSR were robbed and thrown,
        Order super-historian V. Shpakovsky, repeat he will paint a joyful picture on the archives of Mr. Penza. fellow

        This is not his topic ... the Jews didn’t do it. But their people.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 20 May 2020 10: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: apro
          This is not the Jews did. And their people.

          Well, how can I say ... for example, a member of the CPSU since 1975 (and winner of the Lenin Komsomol Prize):

          Suitable for both criteria. smile
          1. apro
            apro 20 May 2020 10: 37 New
            +1
            You dear traitors do not confuse with the Communists.
            1. CSKA
              CSKA 20 May 2020 13: 42 New
              +1
              Quote: apro
              You dear traitors do not confuse with the Communists.

              Yes, then someone who does not take out of those who collapsed the USSR, all the Communists. What is it in the Communist Party so many traitors?)))))
              1. apro
                apro 20 May 2020 13: 46 New
                0
                Quote: CSKA
                Yes, something that do not take out of those who collapsed the USSR, all communists

                And who do you consider to be a communist? Who is a bureaucratic organization or really implements communist ideals?
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 20 May 2020 15: 10 New
                  0
                  Quote: apro
                  And who do you consider to be a communist? Who is a bureaucratic organization or really implements communist ideals?

                  One who is a member of the communist party, because I don’t know those who really implement communist ideals.) Can you name their names?
                  1. Sklendarka
                    Sklendarka 20 May 2020 17: 33 New
                    -2
                    Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin ... etc. Or are they from the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions?
                    1. CSKA
                      CSKA 21 May 2020 13: 52 New
                      0
                      Quote: Skalendarka
                      Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin ... etc. Or are they from the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions?

                      I did not ask Oleg Frolov which of the political leaders was a member of the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions, I asked who really implements communist ideals and asked to give names. I don’t understand why you brought up the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions.
                  2. vavilon
                    vavilon 20 May 2020 20: 51 New
                    0
                    There are a lot of ideological people, but so far they are not in public
                    And our oligarchic authority is afraid of such people, and if someone breaks out, he destroys him in a purely informational way.
                    pouring mud
                    Well, as they say it is not yet evening
                    1. CSKA
                      CSKA 21 May 2020 14: 59 New
                      -1
                      Quote: vavilon
                      There are a lot of ideological people, but so far they are not in public

                      We are generally talking about the times of the USSR. Well, OK. Do you know these people? And how did you determine that they are ideological?
                      Quote: vavilon
                      And these people are afraid of our oligarchic power

                      There is no point in our power fearing a handful of ideological communists. The idea of ​​communism is already in the past. The communists have no support.
                      Quote: vavilon
                      and if someone breaks out so purely informational kills him

                      Example?
                      1. vavilon
                        vavilon 21 May 2020 16: 00 New
                        0
                        Socialism-communism is the future and not the past, but capitalism will sooner or later pass as feudalism and the monarchy passed.
                        And Tsarist Russia was also not afraid of anyone, and what came of this we all know very well
                        As for the surnames, it may still be under the protocol and from the signature))
                      2. CSKA
                        CSKA 21 May 2020 17: 27 New
                        -1
                        Quote: vavilon
                        Socialism-communism is the future and not the past

                        Communism is a utopia, as we have all seen. Nowhere has it been built and will not be built. But socialism is different. And certainly only his likeness was in the USSR. And if this future is eaten then can you name a lot of countries where socialism has recently arrived?
                        Quote: vavilon
                        but capitalism will pass sooner or later

                        Yeah. Everything does not decay.)))) Have heard more than once.
                        Quote: vavilon
                        how did feudalism and monarchy go

                        In general, absolute monarchy still exists in many countries.
                        Quote: vavilon
                        And Tsarist Russia was also not afraid of anyone, and what came of this we all know very well

                        And what does this have to do with it? Someone was afraid or not.
                        Quote: vavilon
                        As for the surnames, it may still be under the protocol and from the signature))

                        Heard more than once. Oh, we are so good and ideological, and just patriots, and we are rooting for the country. Already at 17 passed. There, too, many shouted how they were worried about the people, but in fact all these ideological people created their party elite, and while the whole people were starving and living in the mud, they lived in pleasure periodically cutting each other and fought for power.
                      3. vavilon
                        vavilon 21 May 2020 18: 14 New
                        +2
                        Judging by your comments and statements, you’re just a sofa “general” of life experience in your life is a big zero.
                      4. CSKA
                        CSKA 22 May 2020 12: 18 New
                        0
                        Quote: vavilon
                        Judging by your comments and statements, you’re just a sofa “general” of life experience in your life is a big zero.

                        Well, for you, a combat general with a lot of life experience will tell you a little about yourself. I am 32 and I am an engineer by training from Donetsk. And before the war he worked as an engineer. Here are the characters from you of a military general who must have gone through a bunch of hot spots, I just fought in the militia. Currently living in the Russian Federation
                        Now in fact. There is nothing to write about communism or socialism. All that I wrote above is the way it is. Socialism is different; you don’t even want to understand it. The ideal of socialism that you represented in the USSR as the best, but in fact the Soviet system did not go beyond capitalism as a mode of production, and in fact was state monopoly capitalism (most of the means of production belong to one monopoly owner - the state), which is far from the ideals of Marx
                      5. vavilon
                        vavilon 22 May 2020 12: 34 New
                        0
                        Hello
                        But why !? I share your point of view in many ways
                        But compared to you, I lived and studied during the Soviet Union and I lived this life
                        You know about the union only from textbooks or from someone’s memories
                        Well, each person interprets his vision in his own way, if you ask a successful businessman, he will certainly explain to you that it was a dictatorial system, if you ask the majority of people and these are hard workers, they all will unanimously tell you that it was a golden time compared to what we have today
                        Of course there were problems, well, where they do not exist, of course, it was necessary to carry out reforms, but not to ruin the USSR and sow hostility between peoples.
                      6. CSKA
                        CSKA 26 May 2020 14: 36 New
                        0
                        Quote: vavilon
                        You know about the union only from textbooks or from someone’s memories

                        Well, I still watched a lot of programs and interviews. In particular, I really like the programs of the Soviet Mafia, Chronicles of Moscow Life, and Power Strike. Well and not bad Mlechin tells.
                        Quote: vavilon
                        Well, each person interprets his vision in his own way, if you ask a successful businessman, he will certainly explain to you that it was a dictatorial system, if you ask the majority of people and these are hard workers, they all will unanimously tell you that it was a golden time compared to what we have today

                        I can give you an interesting example on my friends. One with a higher education, a businessman, owns a website and internet advertising firm. So he repeatedly told me that now it would be better if everything was like under the USSR state. I told him that you’re a private entrepreneur, you make good money, you travel abroad, you bought an apartment in Moscow. He answered me that under the USSR he would have made good money and would have sat in a good position.
                        My second friend, without a higher education, started as a heating and plumbing installer. Over time, he organized his team of installers, began to take contracts and objects, while he did not stop working as an installer. He opened his own heating and plumbing store. And it doesn’t live very badly. I bought two apartments and three cars in the family, from a neg, a wife and a worker. So he says that under the USSR he would never have been able to achieve such success.
                        So, not all businessmen directly hate the USSR, but hard workers love it.
                        Quote: vavilon
                        Of course there were problems, well, where they do not exist, of course it was necessary to carry out reforms, but not to ruin the USSR and to sow enmity between peoples

                        I completely agree with you on this.
                      7. vavilon
                        vavilon 29 May 2020 16: 21 New
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                        Your example with your friends that you brought their vision and point of view of today, and I’ll give you another example to see how they lived under the union in a slightly different way, my friend went to work in Siberia in 76, he worked until the age of 81, in five years he earned his whole life, bought a house, a car, and then got a job as a security guard, worked three days, rested, because at that time he had to work. and what is interesting is that every person had this opportunity then
                        At that time, doctors were treating and not pumping money out. To be an artist you needed to have talent, children had a real childhood, youth had romantic youthful years, you could go wherever you want in the union, no one thought about the dollar what course will be tomorrow, what we’ll eat today or tomorrow, where he will work, where he will live, at that time you would never see a single bum on the street, the police never had batons, while people lived quietly no one thought about any politics, there were it’s prestigious to serve in the army, the youth itself was eager for the army. I can list to you endlessly and the edge of the positive that was and we have lost forever
                        I will try to present you my point of view in another aspect, here we are, yes!? the same politicians, experts, and who care about the future of our country, we are discussing and comparing the times of the Soviet Union with the present, you just think about it!
                        the times of the Soviet Union, which no longer exists for more than 35 years, we compare it with the present and prove to each other when it was better then and now, think about it 35 years have passed without the USSR and compare what we have today is first
                        If we are to compare, then we need to compare as follows, compare the times of the Soviet Union at the same time with the times not of the present day of the west but the west that was 35 years ago
                        Indeed, at that time in terms of living, we were far, far in front of this, there are a lot of Examples and everyone understands this very well, if the Union had not collapsed, then our development would go on as well. After all, in the late eighties the West was on the verge of a great economic crisis, and here Gorbachev presented a big gift to the liberal West, selling his big camp for beautiful candy wrappers and betraying all the socialist countries that were oriented towards the union
                        Today in Russia, the oligarchic system is ruled by those who are not interested in uniting the former Soviet republics since it is profit-oriented
                        I just can not understand the current policy of Russia!?
                        in Soviet times, everything was clear, there was an ideological goal, everything was more clear,
                        in the capitalist system
                        it’s also clear what they are moving towards.
                        But Russia does not currently have any ideology or purpose
                        Yes ! we blame others for rewriting history, I completely agree that this is not right, because we also perverted it at home to impossibility, take for example the Victory Day, the socialist system won the war and not the oligarchic one that exists now, we hold parades with Russian with tricolor flags, and after all, under the same flags, Vlasov and others like him killed the same Soviet soldiers who brought us this victory, and they did not fight for the oligarchs, where is the logic?
                        You even compare in this way: 35 years of the new Russian oligarchic power, what has been done and for whom it has been done? Now look after the Second World War after the devastation and devastation after 35 years what has been done, and this
                        because it was 1980
            2. IC
              IC 26 May 2020 21: 42 New
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              Hope and wait, all life ahead.
  • AVTOHTON
    AVTOHTON 20 May 2020 15: 35 New
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    Quote: Alexey RA
    Suitable for both criteria.

    Khodorkovsky is also a Komsomol leader and the profile is perfect ..
    Выкачал своим "молодежным кооперативом" всю наличку и валюту из гос предприятий крупнейших в СССР ..
    Computers supplied them and other fraudulent schemes ....
    Титов еще был такой "коомунист " тем же самым занимался ..
    Вошел в клуб "молодых миллионеров мира "...Вор и мошенник тот еще !!!! negative
    1. vavilon
      vavilon 21 May 2020 18: 07 New
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      You only see the negativity of everything, wake up look how much positive has been lost
      As for Khodorkovsky and others like him, they say “the family has its black sheep” but it’s curable
  • Egoza
    Egoza 20 May 2020 05: 41 New
    +4
    Privatization again? Maybe for a change, try to return the loot to the state?
    1. depressant
      depressant 20 May 2020 13: 30 New
      +2
      Who will return ...
      And yes, privatization! Her mother. Here was the New Year. On the first of January, the hangover colleagues had fun at VO, and I, sober, for not drinking, gloomyly listed the contents of a package of laws discriminating against citizens, to the point, at the very end of last year, proposed by the Medvedev government and hastily approved by the State Duma. Colleagues were horrified, did not believe, made jokes. And I missed the main thing. As far as I could understand, because the main thing was published it was only January 13 this year. It was quietly published in such a way that it was invisible to the general public and therefore was not discussed by that public. This has given rise to evil tongues now to assert that the haste with which the president addressed the Federal Assembly on January 15 was caused by an imminent coup. Yes, they said so, but I did not understand the reason. And it turns out that it turns out ...
      Распоряжение Правительства РФ от 31 декабря 2019 года N3260-р " Об утверждении прогнозного плана приватизации федерального имущества и основных направлений приватизации федерального имущества на 2020 -- 2022 годы".
      Там все, что только может прийти вам в голову. В том числе -- доли государства в том, что "наше все". Называйте любую отрасль, любой вид деятельности, хоть Газпром -- оно там. Было наше, станет чужое. Была наша земля, станет чужая. Потому что сейчас в тиши кабинетов готовится закон о земельной реформе.
      Только отчего-то кажется мне, что Путин был в курсе происходящего. И 15 января предложенные им поправки должны были отвлечь нас от ныряния в интернет в поисках этого самого одиозного "Распоряжения" и сведений о грядущей земельной реформе, по которым единственным источником госбюджета становится население страны -- её вторая нефть. Он просто вывел дружка своего Медведева из-под удара грядущего народного шторма...
      And we, naive ones, argued hoarsely up to the hoaxes.
    2. AVTOHTON
      AVTOHTON 20 May 2020 15: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      Privatization again? Maybe for a change, try to return the loot to the state?

      Only nationalization! And again, the factories for the workers, the land to the peasants and down with the Banks, except for the State Bank as in the USSR! hi
      Otherwise, in no way most likely ..
      1. depressant
        depressant 20 May 2020 17: 29 New
        +1
        Hmmm ... How I advocated last year for the nationalization of at least the bowels, but they deceived me. Tough, uncompromising. All for sale. Some will say: well, it will be Gazprom private, will pay taxes to the budget, from that we will live as we lived before. Truth? Private Gazprom will immediately be sold to a foreign company registered abroad in some Mukhland and under the law on the exclusion of double taxation will pay taxes there, but we will get crumbs and even workers will not get jobs if we demand such wages so that at least from hunger don't die. Tajiks will be driven.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 May 2020 05: 51 New
    +1
    Anatoly Chubais. He has already managed to declare that privatization after the crisis is almost the best medicine for the economy.
    And for Redhead, the best medicine is a liter of castor oil. repeat
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 20 May 2020 06: 30 New
    +1
    Если говорить о нашей уязвимости и патриотизме,то тут стоит задуматься.Никто сейчас не призывает ложиться грудью на пулемет. Но уважать страну,где ты родился,просто обязан.Сорос не одинок.Эти финансовые "черные дыры" притягивают все больше и больше людей.И связываться с такими людьми(а этот факт есть),значит не уважать свое общество.
  • Archon
    Archon 20 May 2020 06: 41 New
    +6
    так-то СССР развалился руками КПСС. Кто выбирал генсеков? Партия же и выбирала. Не так страшны внешние "гиены", собирающиеся на дележку падали, как собственные же дураки и вредители, и никакой враг не возьмет нашу крепость, пока какой-нибудь предатель не откроет ее изнутри.
  • Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 20 May 2020 07: 39 New
    +1
    Life hangs on a thread, and everything thinks about profit.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 20 May 2020 07: 43 New
    +3
    They talked about a new privatization in Russia before the pandemic ... but they didn’t dare ... But then, there’s something to say, coronavirus, and the people, you know, money is needed so that the country doesn’t slide into the 90s ... You want this ?
    People: no, no ... And everything will go like clockwork ...
    1. depressant
      depressant 20 May 2020 20: 22 New
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      Yes, a colleague, they said, discussed at VO. But so that privatization on such a scale, that is, clean up, that is, almost everything, could not even come to mind. And after all, privatizing, they will go bankrupt. And so there is almost no own, purely Russian industry, and after that it will not be at all. And the earth - what will happen to the earth?
      Last year, the government became concerned about the land issue. AMF published figures on the land cadastre. There was hope to restore order, but, apparently, there will be a big cap. In our country, the caste of nobles drew up, it needs estates.
  • Boris ⁣ Shaver
    Boris ⁣ Shaver 20 May 2020 07: 47 New
    +2
    . "Non-privatized" Russia

    It seems to me very strange that the messengers of domestic privatization, traditionally engaged in calculating conspiracies between Chubais and the world financial backstage, stubbornly ignore more pressing issues. For example, the loss by our state of a controlling stake in Rosneft. There is such an interesting sequence of events that there is something to speculate on.
    1) В начале 20-го США вводят санкции против дочек Роснефти за Венесуэлу. Все "эксперты" в один голос заявляют, что против самой Роснефти ни кто санкции ни когда не введет, ибо без поставок Роснефти на рынке выйдет недостаток сего важного ресурса.
    2) Ок. Сечин едет к саудитам и по итогу их встречи создается ситуация, когда все нефтедобытчики "включают насосы на полную мощность", в результате чего нефти на рынке вдруг становится так много, что уход с рынка Роснефти уже ни у кого проблем ни каких не вызовет, скорее наоборот. Все, необходимые условия для введения санкций против Роснефти неожиданно созданы.
    3) Далее, чтобы компанию не постигли столь неожиданно ставшие возможными санкции, наше государство выкупает у нее "токсичный" венесуэльский актив. Зачем покупать дороже чем за рубль то, что ни кому и даром не сдалось (ибо США коршуном налетят на всякого) - то вопрос десятый. А вот зачем спасать госкорпорацию именно ценой потери ее контрольного пакета акций - мне решительно не понятно.
    4) После такого странного "спасения" нашим государством Ронефти США (впервые, кстати), арабы и Россия вдруг неожиданно договариваются о том, о чем Сечин не смог договориться раньше (причем США проявляют теперь такое рвение, что даже собственноручно стучат по макушке той же Мексике, которая пытается немного саботировать договоренности, и угрожают арабам), и цены на черное золото начинают стабилизироваться (с учетом пандемии, рузумеется).

    I’m waiting, waiting, and no one writes about this situation or anything worthwhile and interesting. Where are you, fighters with Chubais and champions of state property? It's about the largest taxpayer in our country, for a second.
    1. depressant
      depressant 20 May 2020 17: 39 New
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      Do not blame us, colleague. Looks like there was no topic. Or it was, but the alarm did not sound amid amendments to the Constitution and the coronavirus.
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 20 May 2020 22: 15 New
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        Quote: depressant
        Looks like there was no topic

        Это и странно. Речь о потере государством контрольного пакета акций (сми тактично назвали его "математическим контрольным пакетом") 3-й по выручке компании в стране и 1-й (пока 1-й) по объемам налоговых отчислений. И это ни какие-то абстрактные заявления Чубайса - это реальность.
  • However, dear
    However, dear 20 May 2020 07: 51 New
    +2
    [media = https: //www.forbes.ru/rating/397799-200-bogateyshih-biznesmenov-rossii-2020-reyting-forbes]

    The 89-year-old Jew Soros has only 8.3 billion dollars. And here, in this list, many bourgeoisie are younger and richer, and most importantly, in the majority - not Jews. They are not greedy and do not hold anyone under the hood.
  • dgonni
    dgonni 20 May 2020 09: 38 New
    +1
    An article can be commented on in one phrase. Horses mixed up in a bunch of horses.
  • lot
    lot 20 May 2020 09: 47 New
    +1
    Чубайс это Сорос сегодня.""
    I caught something.
  • Asad
    Asad 20 May 2020 09: 58 New
    +2
    The enemy! The most dangerous and merciless enemy for Russia! When only dies! ? It is clear that others are and will be, but this one probably did the most!
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 20 May 2020 10: 54 New
    -1
    EEE ... I read, right, but where is the specifics? Everywhere there are lengthy discussions about this and that, but how exactly the 89-year-old man destroys something there now is zero. The same thing about Chubais, a famous Kremlin official ...
  • Freedim
    Freedim 20 May 2020 11: 23 New
    +2
    What a disgusting face ...
  • iouris
    iouris 20 May 2020 11: 37 New
    +1
    Ещё кто-то считает, что Сорос- это человек? Ну ну. Это функция, а "постсоветское пространство" - аргумент этой функции.
  • Alexander X
    Alexander X 20 May 2020 13: 09 New
    +1
    "Какая противная рожа..." ©. И ведь никак не сдохнет... И зачем человеку столько денег? С собой в ад не унести, дети обеспечены на 100 жизней...
    1. iouris
      iouris 20 May 2020 18: 26 New
      0
      "С лица воду не пить". Главное, чтобы кошка ловила мышей.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 20 May 2020 14: 45 New
    +1
    How much is the smile of Soros

    This is not a smile, it is a grimacing grin of a scoundrel, an old shriveled man-hater. You can compare and highlight the most pleasant:

    repeat
  • vavilon
    vavilon 20 May 2020 16: 45 New
    0
    If VV Putin before the end of his presidency cannot bring the country out of an economic peak, the next president is simply not needed, it will be necessary for the military to take matters into their own hands, correct the system and then make other honest elections without an oligarchy.
    1. depressant
      depressant 20 May 2020 18: 16 New
      -2
      In a utilitarian sense, Putin serves only representative functions. He is a man who says: Russia has borders within which outsiders should not go. Compared to Stalin and Brezhnev, Putin cannot:
      Amend the Constitution
      Make laws
      Interpret laws
      Initiate referenda
      Ratify international treaties
      Appoint judges of the Supreme Court and the Attorney General
      Do not sign or amend the law
      Form and appoint the Government without the consent of other authorities ...
      А теперь скажите, какую из этих невозможностей, действуя не по закону, а по понятиям, не нарушил Путин. Он нарушил их все! Я за то, чтобы перечисленные полномочия были у президента моей страны. Но их нет и они не просматриваются в поправках. То есть Путин -- не полномочный президент в реалиях нашей страны. Так на основании чего, голосуя за поправки, я должна продлять его неполномочность до бесконечности? До своей или его естественной смерти? Для того, чтобы он, поглаживая папку с компроматом, "казнил" или миловал того или иного чинушу? Не светит и не греет.
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    3. iouris
      iouris 20 May 2020 18: 29 New
      -1
      Quote: vavilon
      it will be necessary to take the situation into the hands of the military

      The military is not capable of this. Especially ours. If the president does not want to cope, then ... cuckoo: go down in history.
      1. vavilon
        vavilon 20 May 2020 19: 16 New
        -1
        I would prefer a military coup than a revolution, of course, if the situation in the country does not change for the better
        But I hope that Putin will be able to steer and restore order at the top
        1. rotkiv04
          rotkiv04 22 May 2020 19: 57 New
          0
          20 years have passed, hope dies last, do not hope, Putin is the same Eltsin, only sober. He is a liberal to the bone and a nestling of Eltsin and Sobchak’s nests.
          1. vavilon
            vavilon 22 May 2020 20: 25 New
            -1
            Putin has done a lot for Russia, this is undoubtedly a fact, but the problem is that he stopped halfway and someone is pushing forward or something is stopping him
            I think that Vladimir Ladimirovich plays a game of Western liberals according to their rules and if he wins this game then he can change these rules
  • vitaly314
    vitaly314 20 May 2020 20: 43 New
    +1
    Life hangs on a thread, but thinks about a profit ....
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 21 May 2020 19: 20 New
    0
    Soros has such an evil face. Albright looks like a mug.
  • NF68
    NF68 23 May 2020 16: 18 New
    +1
    Soros also does not act by itself. Behind him in the shadows are probably no less toothy than he ruffled. Or maybe cooler than him.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 26 May 2020 09: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: NF68
      Soros also does not act by itself. Behind him in the shadows are probably no less toothy than he ruffled. Or maybe cooler than him.

      Именно так! У финансового спекулянта Сороса есть "хозяева", на которых он успешно работает, и при этом ещё и успешно подрабатывает для себя любимого на инсайдерской информации. Сорос - талантливый и предприимчивый исполнитель и для своих "хозяев", берущий огонь от общества на себя.
  • IC
    IC 26 May 2020 09: 09 New
    -1
    After reading the numerous opus about Soros, we can conclude that he is the main person in recent decades. According to his deeds and power, none of the historical figures can compare with him.
    At the same time, at a very advanced age. His name is widely used by loser countries to explain their failures and failures. So, their people are enough.