US Army Elite Units Receive New NGSW Small Arms System

US Special Operations Forces units are soon planning to equip the next generation of NGSW with new weapons. This rifle weapons plan to provide in the future and other types of troops.

This was told to the American media by the executive officer of the Special Operations Forces, Colonel Joel Babbitt.

He noted that the elite units of the US Army (MTR) are enthusiastically awaiting the receipt of this new small arms of the next generation of 6,8 mm caliber.

The new weapons system combines firepower and effective machine gun firing range with the ergonomics and accuracy of the rifle.

Weapons and ammunition are relatively small in mass.

NGSW will replace the M249 series automatic weapons and the M4 carbine in the army.

Different versions of the new system are equipped with a number of innovations affecting ballistics, target designation, communication.

The NGSW project combines weapons, ammunition, and an information highway to integrate next-generation fire control systems. NGSW has a lightweight body, the weapon is designed for a lethal telescopic cartridge. The new bullet (for a cartridge of 6,8 mm caliber) has a longer range and lethal force than the 5,56 mm caliber ammunition used today in the US Army.

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[Mavrikiy]

This is their answer to our super weapon. What about us?

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Mavrikiy

And what about us?

7,62 ... Our everything!

[sabakina]

Volodya, prYuvet! I remember that in the 6th grade Dad took me to the shooting range. they gave a machine gun (damn it, with an iron butt) of one soldier. I hit all the targets. Then this warrior was reprimanded: "And you said the trunk is crooked."

[Uncle lee]

Hello glory I was at the outpost, we just switched to 5,45, they gave us a Kalash and sent us to the beach. So we all shot pebbles in the sea to the horizon ... The machine is a thing!

[Altona]

Quote from Uncle Lee

So we shot all the pebbles in the sea to the horizon ...

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Hmm, I certainly wildly apologize, but if you translate your romantic metaphor into the hard language of numbers, then just the characteristics of the machine will not allow you to shoot at such a distance. I can only believe that you shot almost from the trench to the full height, where you would have seen the horizon at 500 meters.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Altona

meters at 500.

That was enough for us!

[Peter is not the first]

7,62 ... Our everything!

I do not agree! Another 5,45 and 12,7, well, up to a heap of 14,5 if you recall 1941-1945.

[Insurgent]

US Army Elite Units Receive New NGSW Small Arms System

The rifle itself:



Her 3D model:

And a little video:

[Doliva63]

Quote: Peter is not the first

7,62 ... Our everything!

I do not agree! Another 5,45 and 12,7, well, up to a heap of 14,5 if you recall 1941-1945.

Why 14,5 is "if you remember 1941-1945"? And what about zhezh KPVT on BRDM and armored personnel carriers? Obviously not 41-45

[Peter is not the first]

So I'm talking about portable weapons, and not about transported ones.

[bouncyhunter]

Valentine, hello!

Quote: Doliva63

And what about KPVT on BRDM and BTRah? Explicitly not 41-45

You're right: the machine gun of Vladimirov only went into service in the 49th year.

[Doliva63]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Valentine, hello!

Quote: Doliva63

And what about KPVT on BRDM and BTRah? Explicitly not 41-45

You're right: the machine gun of Vladimirov only went into service in the 49th year.

Salute, Pavel! Yeah, right now out of curiosity, he looked into Wiki - for sure! And, like, still somewhere in the arsenal.

[parkello]

I agree, even nothing to add

[Svateev]

Only ONE of the THREE tested samples has a telescopic cartridge, the other two are classic. Which one to choose is not yet known.
The author of the article does not know anything about the NGSW program. He translated one (shortest) article and on its basis draws global conclusions.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Are the thoughts on 6.8mm starting to materialize? Perhaps we were lucky to observe the birth of a new standard of world significance.

[Altona]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Reflections on 6.8mm

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Well, here we sort of removed the "redundancy" of 7,62 and overcame the "weakness" of 5,56. The golden mean in general.

[fider]

Altona
"The golden mean in general."
It is necessary to act as usual, to slam.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Altona

Well, here we sort of removed the "redundancy" of 7,62 and overcame the "weakness" of 5,56. The golden mean in general.

Experts doubt this, based on the wishes of the customer to get a more powerful weapon than 7,62 caliber ...

Quote: Modern Firearms

The NGSW program is another highly ambitious U.S. military project designed to provide U.S. soldiers with weapons capable of hitting enemy infantry in modern personal protective equipment (body armor) at increased ranges compared to modern systems, such as a 5.56mm M4 assault rifle. At the early stages of the program, the military’s wishes were voiced for breaking through “any modern body armor” at distances of up to 600 meters, but it is difficult to believe in the implementation of such a requirement. Complete tactical and technical requirements for the NGSW program at the end of 2019 were not published. It is known that a new weapon should have a caliber of 6.8 mm and use bullets weighing about 9 grams, with an initial velocity of a bullet from a relatively short machine gun barrel at 3000 ft / s, or 915 m / s. This requirement means very high working pressures in the barrel of the weapon, which means an increased load on the locking assembly and enhanced barrel heating. Also, the new cartridge, regardless of design, will have a recoil momentum even greater than that of a standard NATO 7.62x51 cartridge, which forces all program participants to use various schemes to reduce perceived recoil in their weapons. Also, with such a cartridge, silencers of the sound of a shot are needed, otherwise a powerful muzzle flash and a shock wave will extremely negatively affect both the shooter and his comrades, especially when shooting in confined spaces.

[Svateev]

Quote: Insurgent

at an initial bullet speed of a relatively short machine gun barrel at 3000 ft / s, or 915 m / s. This requirement means very high working pressures in the barrel of the weapon,

For a speed of 915m / s, no overpressure is required. The M16 bullet has such speed, and the AK74 is not much less - 900m / s.
The NGSW Army keeps the initial speed of the bullet a secret, the Americans themselves guess in the media, they call it about 1070m / s, that is comparable to our 6mm cartridge.
The article is completely illiterate.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Svateev

For a speed of 915m / s, no overpressure is required. The M16 bullet has such speed, and the AK74 is not much less - 900m / s.

Sorry, but you are also writing an utter heresy regarding a bullet weighing 9 grams, etc.

For comparison, a bullet low pulse cartridge 5,56 × 45 mm (.223 Remington) NATO is only 4 grams, and our 5,45X39 - 3,02 ... 4,1 grams...

So you need to increase the pressure in the barrel, or not, to give the "fool" 9 grams the required speed?

[Svateev]

Quote: Insurgent

for a bullet weighing 9 grams ..

A 12,7 mm bullet weighs so many grams ... just awful for you. And what will give the increased pressure in the trunk?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Svateev

A 12,7 mm bullet weighs so many grams ... just awful for you. And what will give the increased pressure in the trunk?

No, not high? And due to what then is the muzzle energy taken, the initial speed, the range of a direct shot, the penetration of armor, and all the associated nishtyaki?

I, probably, unlike you, had to disassemble the defective (with a torn neck) "Cliff" cartridges into nonferrous metals, and I know approximatelyhow much gunpowder is thereto push such a bullet ...

[Svateev]

Quote: Insurgent

And due to what, then, muzzle energy is taken, initial velocity,

Due to strength. And power is pressure multiplied by area. And the area of ​​the bullet (piston) is Pi * P square. The larger the P-caliber, the greater the force that accelerates a heavy bullet of a larger caliber to the same speeds as the small-caliber, SAME pressure in the barrel.

Quote: Insurgent

Cliffs ... how much gunpowder is there,

And the pressure in the barrel is about the same as that of the 5,45 mm.

[Korax71]

The kinetic energy of a bullet is the product of the mass of the bullet by the square of the velocity. The mass of the powder charge is affected by the mass of the bullet and the length of the barrel and a number of technical nuances. The initial velocity of the bullet is affected by the length of the barrel, the mass of the powder charge, its burning rate and, again, the mass of the bullet. shot - the height of the target and the persistence of the trajectory, armor penetration - from the speed, energy, cross section and composition of the bullet core. and now, to your favorite pressure in the barrel. for AKM (7.62x39) -280mPa, for 7.62x54 (Mosin rifle) 290mPa. Tank yell s 120mm-320mpa.razborka defective cartridges never add to your knowledge and understanding of the firing process. but with inaccurate handling of the same 12.7x108 mdz there is no sour chance to be left without a couple of fingers.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Perhaps we were lucky to observe the birth of a new standard of world significance.

This standard was embodied more than one hundred and twenty years ago, in the Japanese cartridge "Arisaka" 6,5X50. Even Fedorov, designed his first machine gun, specifically for the "Arisaka" cartridge, due to its excellent ballistic characteristics and optimal power, applied to manual automatic weapons.

[Ded_Mazay]

Which of the star-striped generals needed a new villa in Florida?

[uav80]

In the budget for 2021, the U.S. Army pledged $ 35.8 million for the purchase of NGSW, which doesn’t work out a lot, given that initially by 2023 they wanted to get 250 small arms, as well as 000 rounds of ammunition.

[zenion]

There doesn’t even need a store. It draws air and processes it into a bullet. You can also store cartridges in pockets, or bags made of plastic, he will get them out of there. Most importantly, if a slip occurs, the bullet returns to the shooter in his pocket. The pocket needs to be kept a little apart from the body, it may miss. In no case opposite the eggs and anus, these are her favorite places. If you feel a light blow, as if in the throat, this is your bullet returned to your anus.

[V.I.P.]

Their main requirement is guaranteed penetration of Russian and Chinese bulletproof vests. Both modern and promising .. The type of current ammunition does not guarantee the defeat of soldiers in current Russian and Chinese bulletproof vests ..

[senima56]

Still, M.T. was right. Kalashnikov, when he said that "it's too early to give up the 7,62 mm cartridge!"
Now "everything is back to normal!"

[Altona]

Quote: senima56

Still, M.T. was right. Kalashnikov, when he said that "it's too early to give up the 7,62 mm cartridge!"

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Its "renaissances" occur periodically.

[Ryaruav]

but as on the right side the pusher against the skew of the cartridge was preserved, otherwise I saw some of the new samples in the photo, but the Kalash’s at least scold them, there’s no need for this garbage

[Svateev]

Quote: Ryaruav

pusher against skew cartridge preserved

One of the three test samples was preserved. Sig Sauer actually recalibrated the M16, so he kept that gadget. True, he was forced to make a composite sleeve and strengthened the chamber and the bolt group.
In fact, the Americans are very competent and serious development. And the site of the Military Review is the only thing that I understood - the caliber is different.

[Mountain shooter]

What an interesting cartridge! And the automation system is unusual. As well as the extraction of spent cartridges.
But the cartridge is the most important thing in this system.

[KSVK]

Somehow on the VL is weak with the arrow.
Now in sports sniping ammunition of 6,5 mm caliber is gaining popularity.
Type 6,5 * 47 paw, 6,5 kridmore, 6,5 * 284, etc. They have a number of significant advantages compared to the "classic" .30-mi (7,62 mm) calibers.
1. Less bullet weight of 6,5 mm reduces recoil and facilitates the process of accurate shooting directly.
2. At the same time, 6,5 mm bullets have the same ballistic coefficient as .30 caliber bullets. Here it is necessary, of course, to make a reservation that heavy .30 bullets (13-14,5 grams) will outperform 6,5 mm in terms of the coefficient, but in order to launch such bullets one needs a cartridge of 300 winmags or 300 HSRs. And this is a big case and, accordingly, recoil, the weight of the ammunition and the practical impossibility of automatic firing. Unless from the machine.
3. For the military, a smaller caliber also means a reduction in the weight of the ammunition and, accordingly, an increase in the carrying ammunition.

And as far as I know, US employees are generally thinking about a semi-plastic sleeve. There is a reduction in weight and cost.

Here you can certainly recall the 6mm ammunition, but with them it's not so simple. First ballistics does not reach .30-k. Or it is necessary to disperse the bullet to high speeds, and this leads to increased barrel wear. And the penetrating effect is likely to not satisfy the military.

So the transition to a caliber of 6,5-6,8 mm as a single cartridge (well, maybe in a certain difference in the amount of powder charge for a rifle / machine gun / machine gun) is quite justified. Another thing is that it’s scary even to imagine what budget will have to be allocated for this very transition.

[KSVK]

Quote: orionvitt

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Perhaps we were lucky to observe the birth of a new standard of world significance.

This standard was embodied more than one hundred and twenty years ago, in the Japanese cartridge "Arisaka" 6,5X50. Even Fedorov, designed his first machine gun, specifically for the "Arisaka" cartridge, due to its excellent ballistic characteristics and optimal power, applied to manual automatic weapons.

Well, before Arisaki 6,5x55 Swedish Mauser was invented. So the Japanese were not the first to be .;)