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War melodies. What in the Great Patriotic War they sang in the USSR and among the allies

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Indeed, the words that the soul of the people is best manifested in their songs are genius. How differently the terrible time of war was perceived in our country and in the states that subsequently shared the Victory with it as participants in the anti-Hitler coalition, it becomes perfectly clear from what trace this time left in the work of their poets, composers and singers. Let's try to compare.


First of all, we are not talking about "official" military marches and other similar music. And not even about the "Holy War", which is simply impossible to compare with anything. This, in my opinion, is not a song at all, but a kind of mercilessly tearing soul anthem of the army, acting in a sacred battle with universal evil. No one has ever succeeded in creating anything close and similar in strength and depth of influence ... Compositions like the "Anthem of Stalin's Artillery" stand out as well, from which they emanate with such indestructible power and will to win that they take your breath away to this day.

By the way, in the West, some people are trying to make fun of the fact that almost every Soviet military song mentioned Comrade Stalin: here, they say, Churchill and Roosevelt were not so glorified, but the Russians had continuous propaganda here too! What can I say ... Not praised - that means they did not deserve. Throw the chief out of the same "Volkhovskaya feast" and what happens? At one time, by the way, this was done, but now, fortunately, in the mouths of self-respecting performers, songs of the war years sound as expected - without the shameful obliteration of the name of the creator of Victory.

But, of course, there are many compositions where even the most severe critic will not find even a hint of propaganda, at the first bars of which tears in the eyes of every veteran of the Great Patriotic War came to their eyes. "Dark Night", "Dugout", "Blue Handkerchief" ... Are these songs, which have become truly popular, soldier's, in the best sense of the word - trenches, about war? Certainly. And also about the warrior's light longing for home, for his loved ones, for the peaceful life that he protects. "You are waiting for me, you are not sleeping by the crib, and therefore, I know, nothing will happen to me ..." There are probably no other lines (except perhaps with the exception of the immortal Simon's "Wait for me") that so forcefully praised the loyalty of the soldiers' wives and the faith of the soldiers in the saving power of their love.

Soviet war songs, even lyrical, are solemn, sad and shrill. Something mischievous and perky like the famous "Bryanskaya Street" began to appear at the very end of the Great Patriotic War, when the mortal threat hanging over the Motherland passed and there were only two goals left: to reach Victory and finish off the enemy in his lair. Is it any wonder that the compositions in the United States, which were also allegedly subjected to a treacherous attack by the enemy in 1941 and entered the war, sounded completely different? Not a single enemy bomb fell on their land, the boots of the occupier did not step. Their cities and villages did not burn in the flames of fires, and the price of victory, to be honest, was completely different. For the vast majority of Americans, the war was, of course, something terrible and tragic, but infinitely far from them personally.

For example, quite popular in 1943 “This is the army, Mr. Jones "describes the" horrific hardships "of the drafted Mr. Jones, who now has to do without" private rooms, maids and breakfast in bed. " Poor thing ... The song "Boogie Woogie, Bugle Boy" is about the same - about a jazz trumpet who got into the army as a bugler and was deprived of the opportunity to improvise. True, the clever captain quickly assembles a whole orchestra for the suffering talent, in which he begins to raise the morale of his comrades. Such is the war - with jazz and boogie ...

The only American song that stuck with us was "Comin 'in on a Wing and a Prayer" ("On one wing and at prayer"). Well, that is, "On parole and on one wing" in the version of the immortal Leonid Utesov, who removed the "prayer" from it, just in case. The rest of the translation is very accurate. For the sake of fairness, it is worth mentioning that this composition was born "based on" Operation Gomorrah, during which the Anglo-American Air Force literally wiped Dresden and other German cities with no special military significance from their faces, working out their future "crown number "- massive carpet bombing. Each has its own war ...

Great Britain was most prominent in the song stories war with two really beautiful songs performed by singer Vera Lynn: "We'll Meet Again" and "White Cliffs of Dover" ("White Cliffs of Dover"). In both, there is bright sadness and a timid hope that the war will not be able to take away such a fragile love, its own little personal happiness. “We will meet again, I don’t know where or when… Just keep smiling”, “We are fighting evil skies, but blue birds will soar over the white cliffs of Dover again. Just wait and see ... "Someone" will not have black wings over the Motherland to fly ", someone -" blue birds over the cliffs. " The differences in mentality are obvious.

And in conclusion - about the war song, which turned out to be so successful that it was even proposed to make it the national anthem of France. It was called "The Song of the Partisans", and now it sounded words not about love and sadness: "Hey, soldiers, take bullets, knives, kill faster! We go, we kill, we die ... ”Here the war, the call to resist the enemy, to defeat him, albeit at the cost of his own life, were in every line. Here is just a Russian wrote this composition - Anna Smirnova-Marly, nee Betulinskaya. She, taken to France at the age of three, after the Nazi occupation of the country managed to move with her husband to Britain, where she joined the Resistance, becoming his voice and troubadour. The song, for which Anna was subsequently awarded the highest praise by Charles de Gaulle and the Order of the Legion of Honor, had to be translated into French ...

The soul of the people, its indomitable and invincible spirit are in its songs.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 7 September 2020 05: 20 New
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    War melodies. What in the Great Patriotic War they sang in the USSR and among the allies
    Thank you for your word of honor. hi hi In the internet came across "research" of a participant in the Second World War, who was in captivity and had the opportunity to study our songs of the war and love them. He said a lot of good words, saying that there is no such thing anywhere in the world: songs about war, but about a person. Music is a special topic.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 7 September 2020 06: 40 New
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      During the war, the USSR treated the Allies differently.

      The issue of relations between the USSR and its Western allies during the Second World War in our time causes heated discussions. But the participants in the events of 1941-1945 had no time for controversy. In those years, the attitude towards the British and Americans was completely different - yes, Soviet citizens waited a long time for the opening of a land second front in Europe, but even without that any help from the allies was not superfluous and was accepted with unfailing gratitude.
      However, British and American sailors and pilots were popular not only because they fought against a common enemy with the Soviet people. They were messengers from another world, so unlike the usual, and therefore attractive. Western music was also an important manifestation of this interest. And if in the first place among the Soviet "covers" on the allied themes of that time in popularity, of course, was "The Song of Bombers" performed by the jazz orchestra of Leonid Utyosov, then the foxtrot "James Kennedy" also undoubtedly took the second position.
      In the winter of 1942-1943. on the radio in besieged Leningrad, a new song with a simple text and a perky motive sounded. It told about the commander of the destroyer of the Royal Navy of Great Britain a certain James (this is how it was customary to write the name James) Kennedy, who, despising all dangers, accompanies caravans of merchant ships from Liverpool to Murmansk and back, bathes in the love of girls and receives a Soviet order as a token of merit ...






      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 7 September 2020 06: 44 New
        +9
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        During the war, the USSR treated the Allies differently.

        belay From a sore head to a healthy one. What's wrong with you? request
        During the war, the allies treated the USSR differently what That's right.
      2. svp67
        svp67 7 September 2020 09: 07 New
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        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        During the war, the USSR included

        to the song with special trepidation ...
      3. Avior
        Avior 7 September 2020 09: 31 New
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        The song about Kennedy is unusual as it was heard from all sides of the front.
        On the basis of a comic German song of the 30s about the crazy aunt Anna, the Americans wrote their own version, close to the original, and from the American one it got into the Union and turned into a comic song about an English sailor with a completely different meaning.
        It seems that copyright was less of a concern then than it is now, perhaps for the better it was smile
        By the way, the German Lily Marlene was also listened to from different sides of the front - she was translated into English.
        Our Aviators' March had a German version.
        And there are quite a few such examples at that time.
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 7 September 2020 17: 45 New
          +5
          Our Aviators' March had a German version.

          Quite right, only our march of aviators was before, there are lines "... and believe us / for every ultimatum / the air fleet will be able to give an answer ..." We are talking about Curzon's ultimatum of May 8, 1923. Germany then, during the Weimar Republic, had no time for marches at all.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 7 September 2020 21: 43 New
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            I remember the moment from 'Boat', when the Old Man, in opposition to the first watch officer, ordered the radio operator to put 'It's a long way for Tipparary'))
          2. Nikolai Korovin
            Nikolai Korovin 8 September 2020 01: 57 New
            +2
            Well, here we are. The Aviators' March was written in 1920. We are talking about some other ultimatum - I will not say which one now. But, probably, something took place.
            1. Avior
              Avior 8 September 2020 07: 06 New
              +3
              Our answer to Chamberlain!

              smile
              Just kidding, it was much later.
              1. Nikolai Korovin
                Nikolai Korovin 8 September 2020 13: 18 New
                +2
                In my opinion, this is from a pack of cigarettes that A.I. Koreiko - "We are not afraid of the bourgeois ringing, we will answer Curzon's ultimatum!" And it seems that the all-metal aircraft of Tupolev is depicted - it seems that it was called that.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 8 September 2020 13: 21 New
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                  No, this is already for Chamberlain, 1927 smile
                  https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%88_%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82_%D0%A7%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%83
                  It was a poster, it was also on matches in different variations.
                  Just the times of the Golden Calf
            2. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 8 September 2020 07: 40 New
              +1
              The Aviators' March was written in 1920.

              Hardly. In 1920, GW was still underway, there was no industrial base for the aircraft industry. After 1923, it makes more sense.
            3. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 8 September 2020 16: 22 New
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              Again, read the text. The march contains the words: "... And every propeller breathes / The calmness of our borders ..." Well, what were the borders of the country in 1920? Even the USSR did not exist yet, there was a Civil War.
              1. Nikolai Korovin
                Nikolai Korovin 8 September 2020 16: 57 New
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                According to Wikipedia (sorry), "the song was first published no later than 1923. The date of the music's creation is unknown, but Hite himself claimed to have written the melody in 1920." So I don’t insist - I’m used to thinking that it was written in full in 1920, I didn’t think too much. But Hite may be right; at least "USSR" does not appear in the text. The civil war practically ended with the evacuation of Wrangel in November 1920, and negotiations with Poland began in September. But, of course, there were also Transcaucasian affairs in 1921 ... In general, the matter is somewhat incomprehensible. Perhaps, at the end of 1920, the text is relevant.
                1. Aviator_
                  Aviator_ 8 September 2020 17: 55 New
                  +3
                  Well, Hite could write anything. The text glorifies aviation, and then for the majority of the population it was a circus attraction, nothing more. It got to the point that when asked to allocate funds for TsAGI and the aircraft plant, a clerk from the Supreme Council of the National Economy, Larin (the third father-in-law of the "favorite of the party" Bukharin), said that aircraft factories are like "perfume and lipstick factories", they are generally not needed by Free Russia. The episode, however, refers to 1918, but it is clear that the idea has not yet captured the masses. And this march is the anthem of the Soviet aviation. I believe this is the end of 1923. At the same time, the slogans "Working people, build the Air Fleet!", "Komsomolets - on the plane" appeared, the Dobrolet society appeared.
        2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 7 September 2020 21: 38 New
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          ... Our Aviators' March had a German version.

          My ringtone is 'Heraus zum Kampf, Ihr Knechte der Maschinen ...'
          I remember how a taxi driver in Tel Aviv almost twisted his neck when the smart rang ... More precisely, he marched. laughing
          1. Alf
            Alf 8 September 2020 17: 14 New
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            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            My ringtone is 'Heraus zum Kampf, Ihr Knechte der Maschinen ...'
            I remember how a taxi driver in Tel Aviv almost twisted his neck when the smart rang ...

            It is good that Simon Wiesenthal did not report to the center.
            1. Alf
              Alf 8 September 2020 17: 32 New
              +1
              Quote: Alf
              It is good that Simon Wiesenthal did not report to the center.

              They would have rubbed their hands, he would have come, no need to chase through the jungle ...
            2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 8 September 2020 19: 15 New
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              Yes laaaadno) Even the taboo was removed from Wagner in 2008, it seems, the year.
              1. Alf
                Alf 8 September 2020 19: 59 New
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                Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Yes laaaadno) Even the taboo was removed from Wagner in 2008, it seems, the year.

                There are no rules without exceptions ... laughing
        3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 7 September 2020 22: 00 New
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          ... German Lily Marlene was also heard from different sides of the front

          'Lily' is gorgeous by Marlene D. But her 'Sag' mir wo die Blumen sind 'takes me away. Beyond nationality, timeless thing. Very strong. It seems that J. Bayez sang it in English - full phi. Deutsch only. Only Marlene.
      4. RoTTor
        RoTTor 7 September 2020 20: 15 New
        +3
        Really favorite "James Kennedy" song with a wonderful chorus - a vulgar polka song "Tanta Anna" is enough for a German melody https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%D0%A2%D0%B0%D0%BD% D1% 82% D0% B0 +% D0% 90% D0% BD% D0% BD% D0% B0
    2. Reviews
      Reviews 7 September 2020 07: 15 New
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      Quote: Mavrikiy
      In the internet came across "research" of a participant in the Second World War, who was in captivity and had the opportunity to study our songs of the war and love them. He said a lot of good words, saying that there is no such thing anywhere in the world: songs about war, but about a person. Music is a special topic.

      Apparently, this is a common thing. I have an Austrian friend on FB. His father was in our captivity. He says little about his father, but he himself wildly loves our songs. For example, I am completely delighted with "Valenok" in its modern version (some girl plays the balalaika to the accompaniment of an orchestra) and from "The Volga River flows ...". :)
    3. Bar1
      Bar1 7 September 2020 07: 38 New
      +6
      the most famous are Bombers, Chizh and K.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 7 September 2020 07: 49 New
        +8
        There is one like this:

        1. Ragnar Lodbrok
          Ragnar Lodbrok 7 September 2020 08: 45 New
          13
          And there are such
        2. parusnik
          parusnik 7 September 2020 18: 38 New
          +5
          I remembered my childhood ... smile
          1. Old
            Old Michael 7 September 2020 21: 33 New
            +3
            I remembered my childhood ...

            Yes ...
            When I was still a preschool child, on weekends the whole family went for a walk in the park. A military band played on the central platform. These melodies were firmly deposited somewhere in the depths of consciousness.
            But comparatively recently (10-15 years ago) I suddenly discovered that then pre-war waltzes were playing - "On the hills of Manchuria", "In the city garden", "Autumn dream". There were also marches during the Great Patriotic War, but the lyrics of the war years were rare.
            Perhaps they did not want to stir up the souls of the front-line soldiers. Then many of them were still alive and even young.
            1. Nikolai Korovin
              Nikolai Korovin 8 September 2020 02: 03 New
              +2
              If the title "Autumn Dream" means "In the Frontline Forest", then it was written in 1943. "An old waltz autumn dream / The accordion is playing." And the "Autumn Dream" itself? I haven’t heard something. Maybe the melody is the same? And "In the forest near the front" was relevant in 2009 as well. He performed it for the blockade a couple of months before his death. I saw tears in my eyes, although my performance, of course, is not God only knows what it is.
              1. Old
                Old Michael 8 September 2020 07: 35 New
                +2
                No, Nikolay, exactly "Autumn Dream"!
                Be sure to listen, it's amazing music!
                1. Doliva63
                  Doliva63 8 September 2020 20: 33 New
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                  Quote: OldMichael
                  No, Nikolay, exactly "Autumn Dream"!
                  Be sure to listen, it's amazing music!

                  There is nothing more beautiful than the Sviridov Blizzard! drinks
                  1. Old
                    Old Michael 8 September 2020 21: 54 New
                    +2
                    Doliva, I am very grateful for such a reminder!
                    There is nothing more beautiful than the Sviridov Blizzard!

                    This is magic!
                    1. Doliva63
                      Doliva63 9 September 2020 20: 06 New
                      +2
                      Quote: OldMichael
                      Doliva, I am very grateful for such a reminder!
                      There is nothing more beautiful than the Sviridov Blizzard!

                      This is magic!

                      I had such a ringtone 5-7 years ago. Then I got to work with the thugs - well, they did their work within the framework of a general order, and I did mine - legal. And during the next binge, an employee called me. After the call, they say - well, turn on the music again, it shivers from it. And it's on your phone! And at home with a friend, we turn on cool acoustics and after a couple of glasses of cognac we dance to her. Masterpiece! drinks
                      1. Old
                        Old Michael 9 September 2020 21: 45 New
                        +2
                        we turn on cool acoustics and after a couple of glasses of cognac we dance to it

                        As I understand you!
              2. Old
                Old Michael 8 September 2020 09: 12 New
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                PS For example, here:
              3. Doliva63
                Doliva63 8 September 2020 20: 30 New
                +2
                "If the name" Autumn Dream "means" In the forest at the front ", then it was written in 1943." An old waltz autumn dream / The accordion is playing. "
                Well, they give you a reference here - an old waltz is playing, written long ago. What are you, right? laughing
        3. RoTTor
          RoTTor 7 September 2020 20: 20 New
          +2
          NO, these are the words written in the late 50s to a song by American miners
          https://music-facts.ru/song/Rarely_Known/16_tons/
        4. Doliva63
          Doliva63 8 September 2020 20: 26 New
          +1
          Interpretation of the texts of the 70s, then there was a lot of that.
      2. Pavel57
        Pavel57 8 September 2020 22: 18 New
        +1
        A good video with the song of Chizh.
  2. Login_Off
    Login_Off 7 September 2020 05: 25 New
    +4
    And the author did not hear the songs of the Chinese and North Koreans?
  3. Catfish
    Catfish 7 September 2020 05: 43 New
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    In fact, when writing such an article, at least some videos with songs should be inserted in addition to the text, otherwise it turns out "unleavened food without salt and pepper." For example, I have never heard the songs of Vera Lynn and the French "Song of the Partisans", how to compare?
    ... Operation Gomorrah, during which the Anglo-American Air Force literally wiped out Dresden and other German cities of no particular military significance, along with their inhabitants,

    The raid on Dresden was carried out only after the Germans rolled out British Coventry, and then the term "coventry" appeared. And the rest of the cities ... the war was going on and the cities were bombed by everyone.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 7 September 2020 06: 54 New
      +7
      Yes, again galloping through Europe, and not an article!
      1. Freeman
        Freeman 7 September 2020 07: 57 New
        +8
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Yes, again galloping through Europe, and not an article!


        Here is a good video on the topic. It seems that the students did it, but I liked it.

        1. Catfish
          Catfish 7 September 2020 08: 37 New
          +5
          Thank you, Alexey, we made you happy! smile Whoever made this video did great. While he looked and listened, the smile never left his face. good
        2. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 7 September 2020 18: 00 New
          +2
          The video is good. One small blunder - at the very beginning of the song "Airplanes First ..." shows the crew of the tank.
          1. Freeman
            Freeman 7 September 2020 19: 10 New
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            Quote: Aviator_
            The video is good. One small blunder - at the very beginning of the song "First of all, the planes ..." tank crew.

            Yes, there is.
            Apparently the guys were misled by similar flight helmets and goggles (as in the next photo of the attack pilots).

            And about the photo you are talking about, I found the following information.

            In the area of ​​the village of Ozernitsa, Slonim district, Grodno region of the Republic of Belarus, the remains of soldiers who died in the summer of 1941 were found. Through the TsAMO RF, colleagues from Belarus (A.L.Dudarenok) managed to establish the addresses of relatives. Sister V.G. Tsyrkunova sent photographs, among which there was one, which was also a gratitude from the command for excellent service. That is, on the front side of the photo there is an image of 3 tankers, one of whom is V.G. Tsyrkunov (pictured on the right / * with accordion /) was found by search engines. On the back of the photo there is a text of gratitude signed by the battalion commissar Ershov.



            source:
            http://antikclub.ru/load/club_collektors/foto_otkrytki/40-1-0-388
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 7 September 2020 19: 18 New
              +3
              Well, yes, the glasses are a bit similar, for a modern schoolchild they are indistinguishable from flight glasses. And they in a hurry did not pay attention to the helmets at all, there really was no similarity. And the video is good, let them try further.
    2. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 7 September 2020 08: 06 New
      -6
      there was a war and the city was bombed by everyone and everyone.
      The Soviet Union razed all EU cities to the ground? Or did the German EU bomb the US?
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 7 September 2020 08: 42 New
        +9
        The Soviet Union razed all EU cities to the ground?

        The USSR never fought with the EU, the USSR fought with Nazi Germany and its satellites. And I never wrote that our aviation razed the enemy cities to the ground. The exception, perhaps, is Königsberg, but it was a fortified city and they were in no hurry to surrender.
        Or did the German EU bomb the US?

        Decipher, if you please, this nonsense.
        1. SOVIET UNION 2
          SOVIET UNION 2 7 September 2020 09: 01 New
          -6
          Where is the nonsense? The fact that the Hitlerite European Union did not exist? Who then fought in the German army? Was Napoleon's EU. Or was it not? The truth was called then it was all different. But it does not change the essence!
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 7 September 2020 09: 04 New
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            Well, so call it as it was called at the time when it happened.
      2. Terrible
        Terrible GMO 7 September 2020 09: 09 New
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        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        The Soviet Union razed all the cities of the Reich to the ground?

        And he had nothing to bomb with. What they could (like Helsinki and other cities) were bombed.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 7 September 2020 10: 52 New
          +7
          However, they still flew to Berlin, purely psychologically, but the capital was bombed. The Americans later repeated this technique in the Doolittle raid on Tokyo.
    3. Avior
      Avior 7 September 2020 09: 47 New
      +5
      Hitler had peculiar views.
      He believed that Germany could have won the First World War, but the damned Jewish socialists, taking advantage of popular discontent with the deprivations of the war, forced her to capitulate.
      To prevent this from happening again, in Germany they tried in every possible way to protect the Germans from the hardships of the war.
      The industry worked in peacetime, and only in 1943, after Stalingrad, Goebbels made a speech, the meaning of which was that it was necessary to stop living as if there was no war. But then, by the way, they tried to protect the Germans from the hardships of the war as much as possible.
      One of the consequences of the start of the Allied bombing was to suppress the morale of the Germans. Goering received from Hitler a notable slap on the bombing, and two-thirds of the new fighters began to be sent to the air defense of the Reich, and not to the Eastern Front, where the Germans badly needed them - the front cracked strongly after Stalingrad.
      But caring for the spirit of the German population seemed equally important to Hitler.
      hi
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 7 September 2020 10: 50 New
        +4
        Hitler was generally more than a peculiar personality.
        The industry worked in peacetime, and only in 1943 ...

        This is where his originality is and helped us and the Allies to win the war with less losses. I don’t want to guess on the "if-yes-if-only" principle, but if he put the industry immediately on a war footing, everything would be much more difficult.
    4. Nikolai Korovin
      Nikolai Korovin 8 September 2020 02: 38 New
      0
      The bombing of Dresden had no other military expediency other than the creation of better defended than an entire city, ruins of the type of Stalingrad. The Anglo-Saxons generally happily bombed residential areas, without touching or touching the symbolically located nearby military and metallurgical plants with the participation of their capital, more than the American one. In view of the almost complete collapse of the German air defense by 1944 in the west, which could not withstand the growing onslaught of Lancaster, Liberators (which is especially symbolic) and, in particular, at the end, Superfortresses, the German rear, in particular the Ruhr, became comparable according to the danger to the population with the scarecrow of the German soldier, where he almost always ended up - the Eastern Front. With the complete absence of the West and the presence of the frail South.

      As a result, having lost his family under the bombs and knowing that he would have to return to the ashes, the German soldier sometimes fell into a trance (there were a clear minority of them), or fought like hell. Very sickly help to the Soviet Union. As for Dresden, there were no large military factories, although, of course, small arms, cartridges and uniforms were made in all major cities of Germany, without exception. Still, Stalingrad did not leave Dresden. The Volkssturm is an army of little combat capability, and at that time the Hitlerite command plugged all the holes with Volkssturm - the normal draft was practically exhausted.

      The USSR had powerful strategic bombers, at least not inferior to the Liberator and superior to the Lancaster - Pe-8. But there were very few of them, so much so that at first the anti-aircraft gunners often did not have his profile and fired at him. All forces were thrown into the fight against the German army and, accordingly, front-line aviation, so that mainly fighters and IL-2 were produced. Well, another twin-engine Tu-2. Also, the twin-engine DB-3 was still rather weak, although it flew a couple of times to Berlin in August 1941, and its production was discontinued in 1943. The USSR could not afford the luxury of maintaining a powerful bomber fleet.

      Tellingly, the Germans did not have a four-engined bomber at all. Starting the war, they believed that the single-engine Ju-87 and twin-engined Ju-88 would be enough for them to implement the Douai doctrine. The more powerful, but still also twin-engine Do-217 did not go into the large series due to design flaws. The destruction of London and, to a somewhat greater extent, Coventry, is incomparable with what the Allies have done in Germany, especially in the Ruhr and Hamburg. Well, in Dresden as a curtain.

      However, what am I describing the well-known facts, that I am on Zen? But let it stay. The backsides are sometimes useful to repeat.
      1. Avior
        Avior 8 September 2020 07: 17 New
        +3
        Have you been to Dresden?
        This is a major transport junction, and first of all, the railway junction was bombed; it is adjacent to the old city, which got it at the same time. Traffic through it was stopped for weeks. The number of victims in Dresden is greatly exaggerated for propaganda purposes, by all sides, there are real calculations of the times of the war, and a modern check.
        The bombing of Dresden was part of an operation to destroy the logistics of the Nazis in the winter of 1945 at the request of the Soviet side - Leipzig, Berlin and Dresden as a roundabout
        hi
      2. Alf
        Alf 8 September 2020 17: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: Nikolai Korovin
        and, in particular, at the end, "Superfortresses",

        What ? Superfortresses? Which were not born in Europe?
        Well, another twin-engine Tu-2.

        Have you confused it with the Pe-2? Still, 11000 against 800.
        twin-engine Do-217 did not go into a large series

        Well, 1905 boards also didn't sneeze.
        1. Nikolai Korovin
          Nikolai Korovin 8 September 2020 20: 10 New
          0
          Sorry, just Fortressov, of course. It's just that right after the war there seemed to be some kind of story that Superfortress was copied from us - so he got out. And indeed, he confused - of course, the Pe-2. Tu-2 appeared closer to the end of the war and did not play a big role. As for Do-217 - 1905, of course, there is a lot, but still almost an order of magnitude less than 15183 Yu-88 and much less than even about 7000 Xe-111. If I am not mistaken, German pilots were not particularly fond of the Do-217 - the two-keel machine was difficult to control. In general, I am in pain, my head is heavy, and so I am white and fluffy.
          1. Alf
            Alf 8 September 2020 20: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: Nikolai Korovin
            In general, I am in pain, my head is heavy,

            C19 or a hangover? laughing
            It's just that right after the war there seemed to be some kind of story that we copied Superfortress

            Yes, only the dead do not know about this story, everything about it has already been clarified and clarified.
            1. Nikolai Korovin
              Nikolai Korovin 8 September 2020 21: 32 New
              0
              Well, I seem to be still alive, but I found out relatively recently, I forgot the details. As for the hangover, I carefully avoid it. I remember that in the 10th grade we got used to with friends "Crankshaft", aka "Maya Plisetskaya" - everyone drank and waited for it to be tasty. They didn't finish, however. And they did well - the next morning I had to call a pochmetologist. And since then, even if there was "Kashinskaya", "Kasimovskaya" or unprofessional moonshine on the table, he did not allow anything like that, because he always knew when to stop. Well, we were reminded of what is in the "5 stars" buffet. One stack will help. The vessels are lousy - there are several serious craniocerebral injuries, which, a clear stump, no one thought to heal. It healed itself. What is there to hurt - it's a bone!
              1. Alf
                Alf 8 September 2020 23: 25 New
                +1
                Quote: Nikolai Korovin
                Well, I'm kind of still alive

                Well, thank God !
                Quote: Nikolai Korovin
                What is there to hurt - it's a bone!

                Do not get out of your way, no one can say how TBI can come around at any moment.
                1. Nikolai Korovin
                  Nikolai Korovin 9 September 2020 13: 08 New
                  0
                  I'm not getting out of my way. This is me for our students Es Ku Lapp. Just now - I donated blood in one charitable institution. The people are a crowd, almost everyone has to stand in the presence of a serious sore. They took - gave a cotton wool. Press firmly for 10 minutes, they say. I was pressing 20. I straighten my hand, straighten my sleeve - I feel it was pouring from a vein. I go to the office - bandage me, I say. The blood on the shirt is about 15 cm2 or even more. They did not argue, they tied them up. But my sister, while bandaging, confidentially told me - "If I bandage everyone, I won't finish until the next morning." A nuance, seemingly insignificant, but very indicative.

                  And about the head - one case was, they drove me to a sponsored state farm at a construction site with a brick. Feels wonderful. Well, a week later I woke up a little, I came to the OTB - the head of the OTB was a retired colonel, a front-line soldier. They drew up an act, all the rank and file. Where is this act now? Well, he asks me - Does your head hurt? - No, - I say, - it doesn't hurt. Well, I was ill, of course, but not very much. He waved his finger in front of my nose and said: - Maybe then get sick.

                  I remembered this, and whoever is warned is armed. He stopped playing football as a goalkeeper - there were also a couple of hits - one with a boot on the skull, but already at the end of the striker's fall with his feet forward on wet grass, and the other with a wet ball in the sand from two meters into the eye - they played on a sandy field. The most annoying thing is that the ball rolled approximately along the conditional line of the goalkeeper's area from the left corner to the right, the second striker ran up and finished off into the empty net. This, too, is not sugar, but with a brick and still cannot be compared with something. Well, and I think maybe it helped me somewhere. I could still get it. But I never received help from doctors on this matter, except for dressings and some lousy pills with dubious benefits.

                  There seems to be some kind of personal, I haven't looked at how to use it yet. I dashed off an obviously personal message. Well, let it be.
  4. Free wind
    Free wind 7 September 2020 05: 49 New
    -6
    But why did the Germans roll out our cities? They rolled out their cities, and they did the right thing, if I had an atomic bomb, I would use it against the Germans without hesitation.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 7 September 2020 06: 42 New
      +9
      ... if I had an atomic bomb, I would use it against the Germans without hesitation.

      "Zist something he zist, the one who will give him ..." (c)
    2. kalibr
      kalibr 7 September 2020 06: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: Free Wind
      Rolled out their cities, and they did the right thing

      In war, as in war!
      1. SOVIET UNION 2
        SOVIET UNION 2 7 September 2020 08: 07 New
        -5
        In war, as in war!
        So the Soviet Union fought wrong ?!
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 7 September 2020 08: 37 New
          +3
          There was no strategic aviation.
          1. SOVIET UNION 2
            SOVIET UNION 2 7 September 2020 08: 58 New
            0
            There was no strategic aviation.

            In total, until September 5, 1941, Soviet pilots carried out nine raids on Berlin [6], making a total of 86 sorties. 33 planes bombed Berlin, dropping 21 tons of bombs on it and causing 32 fires in the city. 37 planes could not reach the German capital and struck other cities. A total of 311 high-explosive and incendiary bombs with a total weight of 36 kg were used [050]. 6 propaganda bombs with leaflets were dropped.

            Who then bombed Berlin?
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 7 September 2020 09: 15 New
              +8
              Ploiesti was also bombed, and during the Winter War - Helsinki. Nevertheless, the USSR did not have the ability to demolish the industry with the simultaneous strikes of hundreds of bombers on factories and workers' quarters.
              1. Liam
                Liam 7 September 2020 09: 33 New
                +4
                The list of 81-th addd ships that took off for a combat mission
                10 August 1941 [11]

                number
                p / p
                Name of the crew commander Bomb load Take-off time Note
                Airplanes TB-7
                1. Kurban A.A. FAB-500 - 4 20.50 Bombed the target. Sat down forced. The plane is broken.
                2. Peregudov A.A. FAB-100 - 20
                ZAB-50 - 16 20.52 Returned due to engine failure
                3. Tyagunin A.N. FAB-250 - 12 21.03 Shot down for and Baltic Fleet fighters. 4 people were killed, 1 - went missing.


                4. Vodopyanov M.V.
                FAB-250 - 9
                RRAB-3 - 1
                (116 ZAB-2,5)

                21.05 Bombed the target. Sat down forced. The plane is broken.

                5. Prominent (Bidny) V.D. FAB-100 - 30 21.50 Bombed Lauenburg. Sat down forced. The plane is intact.
                6. Egorov K.P.
                FAB-1000 - 2
                FAB-100 - 8

                21.56 Crash due to engine failure.


                7. Ugryumov M.M.
                FAB-250 - 8
                RRAB-3 - 2
                (232 ZAB-2,5)

                21.58 Bombed the target. Sat down forced. The plane and crew are unharmed (with the exception of one dead military technician).


                8. Panfilov A.I.
                FAB-250 - 8
                ZAB-50 - 16

                22.00 I bombed the target. He did not return from the assignment.


                9. Native M.V. FAB-100 - 20
                ? RRAB-3 - 2
                (232 ZAB-2,5) Did not fly out due to engine failures.


                Airplanes Er-2
                10. Stepanov A.G. FAB-100 - 7 Bombed the target. Not come back.


                11. Kubyshko B.A. FAB-100 - 7 21.12 Bombed the target. Shot down by his fighter. The crew is intact.


                12. Malinin V.M. FAB-100 - 7 21.12 Bombed the target. He returned normally.


                13. Molodchiy A.I. FAB-100 - 7 21.25 Accident during takeoff. The crew is intact.
                During the TB-7 raid on the Berlin area, 20 FAB-250, 3 FAB-500 and 3 RRAB-3 were dropped, Er-2 - about 20 FAB-100

                hi
            2. Alf
              Alf 7 September 2020 22: 11 New
              +4
              Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
              There was no strategic aviation.

              In total, until September 5, 1941, Soviet pilots carried out nine raids on Berlin [6], making a total of 86 sorties. 33 planes bombed Berlin, dropping 21 tons of bombs on it and causing 32 fires in the city. 37 planes could not reach the German capital and struck other cities. A total of 311 high-explosive and incendiary bombs with a total weight of 36 kg were used [050]. 6 propaganda bombs with leaflets were dropped.

              Who then bombed Berlin?

              Colleague Krasnodar means in marketable quantities.
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        3. kalibr
          kalibr 7 September 2020 12: 03 New
          +3
          Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
          So the Soviet Union fought wrong ?!

          What is the basis for such a strange conclusion?
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 7 September 2020 22: 04 New
        +2
        .In war, as in war!

        By the way, yes!

        I fell in love with the self-propelled gun,
        She took her to the forest for a walk.
        From such a romance
        The whole grove is broken ...

        )))
        Favorite movie...
    3. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 7 September 2020 07: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: Free Wind
      if I had an atomic bomb, I would use it against the Germans without hesitation.

      Young ...... (Kin-dza-dza)
      Would your mother let you? Stalin definitely did not allow .... Why would he be a defendant in Nuremberg?
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 7 September 2020 08: 44 New
        +7
        It's useless ... it's not about youth, it's not cured. fool
        1. depressant
          depressant 7 September 2020 20: 51 New
          +4
          It's strange. I thought that the first test of our nuclear bomb took place on August 29, 1949. That is, after the Second World War. This means that Stalin could not use it against Hitler's Germany, even if such a crazy idea had occurred to him. And here colleagues in all seriousness deduced that only Stalin's prudence saved Germany from bombing with such ammunition. Or am I not aware of something?
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 8 September 2020 09: 35 New
            +1
            In August 1949, an atomic bomb was tested; thermonuclear weapons appeared somewhat later.
            An atomic bomb containing heavy and unstable uranium or plutonium atoms that decay into lighter ones. This process is helped by the colossal release of energy, which leads to the explosion of the bomb.
            In a thermonuclear bomb, on the contrary, there is no decay, but the synthesis of heavy elements from lighter ones. These weapons use deuterium or tritium. At high pressure, a thermonuclear reaction begins, leading to an explosion of the device. The necessary pressure for an explosion is created by a low-power atomic explosion. It turns out that there is a small atomic bomb in a thermonuclear bomb.
            And the last difference is that the atomic bomb has power limits (relatively small). The power of thermonuclear is limited only by the amount of substances used and, potentially, has no limits.
            1. depressant
              depressant 8 September 2020 12: 05 New
              0
              Dear colleague ...))))
              Thank you very much, but as a professional physicist, I am familiar with the difference between one type of nuclear weapon from another - decay and fusion. Another thing is that during the whole Second World War we had neither one nor the other. Meanwhile, in Japan the idea is gradually taking root that it was we who bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and not the United States. And if the idea of ​​the true state of affairs was not beneficial to the States, and faithful memory is beneficial to them, so that the Japanese do not particularly twitch under their protectorate, in fact, some kind of occupation, then even now the whole of Japan in full force would believe that it was we who bombed them atomic ammunition. But it seems that history has begun to be forgotten by someone and here. And I was alarmed that when we mentioned the possibility of an atomic bombing of Germany, we did not have any protesting comments.
              In fact, it was Hitler who had 4 atomic bombs, which were not brought to the stage of application thanks to the bureaucracy. Before the bureaucrats swayed, our Victory took place.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 8 September 2020 13: 44 New
                +2
                Dear Lyudmila love .
                Well you fooled me, and rightly so, there is nothing to teach a professional his craft. smile
                As for this:
                ... the possibility of an atomic bombing of Germany, we did not have any protesting comments.
                What do you want from urYapatriets, there is at least a stake on your head, and the result will be the same. I still laughed at one like this:

                ... if I had an atomic bomb, I would use it against the Germans without hesitation.

                "Zist something he zist, the one who will give him ..." (c)

                As for the atomic bomb of Adolf Aloizevich, I read something for a long time about the story of heavy water and Norwegian partisans, who either stole this water from the Germans, or simply destroyed it, was read for a long time and I do not remember well, but you probably , and you yourself know this story. They began to drive the Jews, so they fled across the ocean and in the States calmly took up this bomb for themselves and eventually made it.
                As for the Japanese, they perfectly remember who bombed them and are not going to forget. Our Vic Nick was there relatively recently and communicated with the people, no one blames Russia there.
                1. depressant
                  depressant 8 September 2020 15: 21 New
                  +1
                  Perhaps our colleague talked with the older generation who remember how it was. But new generations have grown up there, for whom all these wars, all these bombings are history covered with a haze of distant times, and it is not known what is really hidden behind that haze. And whatever is hidden, it seems to be no longer relevant. Not understanding that it is more than relevant)))
                  Due to the defocusing of the historical view, new wars seem fearless and even somewhat desirable, because they are moving technological progress and culture. Here is a big article, it seems, in Opinions - Timokhina. He talks about the inevitability of war. And I involuntarily think, like in old times - even if it weren't there)))
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 8 September 2020 15: 54 New
                    +2
                    ... it seems like old times - even if it weren't there

                    This is how they go constantly, these wars. At first glance, they are not so large-scale, but they do not stop even for a day. Just start a nuclear one, while, it seems, there are no crazy people - then a skiff for everyone, except Burkina Faso.
                    As for Japan, Vic and I had a "special" conversation on this topic, he was referring to the youth, the old by itself.
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 8 September 2020 18: 11 New
                      +2
                      Positively! But I said this about the Japanese youth, because I have repeatedly read bitter complaints from our journalists that, they say, young Japanese do not know, and that's it! They believe that this is us. Also, I have read more than once about the absolute conviction of the Americans that they won the victory in WWII. It would seem that we care about their opinions. But, apparently, there is something in this jealous interest of ours.
                      And in terms of this interest, how many articles on Zen were found on how ordinary Americans, Germans, French, and others treat us, what they think of us, about our films, music, food, lifestyle, women, dressing style, etc. .. And such, you know, an inferiority complex from all this breathed! .. At least from the articles it followed. It turns out that it is very important for us whether they love us. It can be seen that we are all in a row someone who is very significant and necessary disliked, therefore we stopped singing, but did not stop drinking because of our dislike, although a certain culture of drinking nevertheless emerged))))
                      So we go around the world and ask: "Who won the Second World War?" Only the intonation is not the same as before. And they don't ask. They know about themselves everything that they need, and they absolutely do not care what we think about them.
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 8 September 2020 19: 38 New
                        +2
                        ... the bitter complaints of our journalists, ...

                        That's the one who needs to listen least of all. laughing
                        And as for the complex, you correctly noted, for example, I do not care about how they treat me over the hill, how, in fact, they don’t care about our attitude towards them. I also got tired of this eternal whining about the underestimation of our contribution to the "world treasury". But it did not start today or yesterday, it is not for nothing that in time immemorial the elephant appeared as a "truly Russian animal."
                        And about the fact that a certain culture of drinking has appeared, everything is so simple: there is no longer the need to drink on the sly in the gateways, and I judge from our villages: all drunken alcoholics died by the end of the nineties, and new ones did not appear and no one walks in the ditches. ))
                      2. depressant
                        depressant 8 September 2020 20: 30 New
                        +2
                        You know, colleague, they are lying around!))) But they do not bring harm with their violence. As recently as yesterday, late in the evening, I watched the following picture in the beams of a lantern: a married couple of about thirty were returning, apparently from the guests. A half-sober decent man was lifting a decent wife from the asphalt, drunk with death. She struggled and bellowed. At her humming, I looked out the window: is it not necessary to disperse the hooligans sticking to the girl, because once this happened here, we had to intervene)))
                        But no, a married couple, a woman did not calculate her capabilities. He picked it up, went quietly. Nowadays such a scene is a huge rarity. Silence reigns all around. People have changed. Sobered up. Economists are sounding the alarm: the purchasing power of the population, contrary to expectations, did not recover by September. Apparently there is not much money for alcohol either. This is bad for the government. The Ministry of Finance has run out of dollars, the National Welfare Fund has already been opened, and the population is sober! The population does not drink especially. And if we talk about this topic, you see, "Internationale" will sing))))
                      3. Catfish
                        Catfish 8 September 2020 20: 40 New
                        +2
                        Why are they singing until a roasted cock bites into each ass. I have three villages around here, there is a car in almost every yard, or two, or three, albeit not expensive, but quite decent cars. Everyone plows, wherever, children study, girls give birth to this "Internationale" to the lamp, although they hide the power at all crossroads. laughing
                      4. depressant
                        depressant 8 September 2020 21: 12 New
                        +1
                        Oh, you have given me hope! )))
                        Everything is different with us. On the street, everyone behaves decently, there are only a few openly villagers in my "collective farm", and before there were a lot of them. The bulk died out, the post-war generation was almost gone. The remnants of the elderly engineering staff are well-bred old men and women, there are also few of them. On the street you can hear normal Russian speech, derevinism is gone. But in the apartments - boorish, village swearing with swearing, the middle generation, the young - there is not enough money to live on. What will happen next, I don't know ...
                        During the crisis of 2008, the swindlers walked around the apartments, under various pretexts demanded to open the door, harassed passers-by on the street, snatched out bags of groceries (they say this has already happened in Moscow, several episodes), burned cars, but so far everything is limited to family squabbles. Our village is not satisfied. And yes, you are right, "Internationale" and we are unlikely to sing. There are no guides for the ideology of this song, it needs a certain pumping of the masses with access to a spiritual uplift, and the people are very cunning nowadays, there are no naive people, they are happy to be deceived only in material terms, all thoughts about money and ways of earning in any way - honest or dishonest, who -that's used to rely on the state, and it supports this faith with meager handouts, and the "Internationale" demanded dedication in the name of others. As in the commandments. Who is capable of this now? ))
                      5. Catfish
                        Catfish 8 September 2020 21: 53 New
                        +2
                        Well, there were a lot of things in Moscow, you can't tell everything, that's why I hit the road from it to the village with great pleasure. Regarding the mate, you are right, just like some kind of infection, everyone swears without being ashamed of children, the devil knows what is the matter here. And as for the material plan ... so many temptations, shops are full of goods, in Soviet times this was not. And young people, they are very different, I know young Muscovites who conquered the Donbas and did not do it for the sake of money. And there are many of them not only in Moscow. There is simply no idea or leader in the country.
  • kalibr
    kalibr 7 September 2020 05: 59 New
    +7
    "In fairness, it is worth mentioning that this composition was born" based on "Operation Gomorrah"
    I don’t remember offhand, but it seems to me that the destruction of Dresden was in the 45th. And the song appeared in 1943, when Hamburg was bombed and it was then "Gomorrah". Moreover, they bombed on July 23-29, and the song was already on the second place in popularity. So - it was already. Something doesn't fit ... It is clear that Americans are bad, but what to do with numbers? And what kind of "justice" then comes out? One inaccuracy on the other!
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 7 September 2020 06: 54 New
      +3
      Here's what superficial googling gave:
      “On February 26, 1943, a B-17“ The Southern Comfort ”with the crew of Hugh Ashcraft Jr. from Charlotte, North Carolina (Hugh G. Ashcraft, Jr. of Charlotte, North Carolina) was returning from a combat mission from Germany to a base in England. The plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire and lost one engine. During the flight, Ashcraft told his crew: "Who wants to let him pray." The plane returned to base, and the North Carolina newspapers wrote about the event, mentioning that the crew "begged" the plane to return to base. Ashcraft became a popular personality, and after the war, the president of the Harris Teeter supermarket chain.

      The crew of "The Southern Comfort" by their plane, 1942. Ashcraft stands in the center.
  • avia12005
    avia12005 7 September 2020 06: 04 New
    +5
    It often seems to me that my ancestors, who died or who fought, but already died, speak to me with such songs in the Great Patriotic War ...
  • Van 16
    Van 16 7 September 2020 06: 51 New
    +8
    Dark Night "," Dugout "," Blue Handkerchief "...
    Good songs, sincere. Just recently I made a video for my mother with songs of the war years ..
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 7 September 2020 06: 59 New
    12
    Probably, all countries participating in the anti-Hitler coalition had good patriotic and sincere songs. So their states were still 53, many made a very small contribution to the Victory, but this does not change the essence of the matter. We just know very little about their songs.
    For those interested, Vera Lynn:
    "We'll Meet Again" ("We'll Meet Again")


    "White Cliffs of Dover" ("White Cliffs of Dover")
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 7 September 2020 07: 20 New
      +9
      Thank you, Alexander. hi As always, for this author, others finish his work. smile
    2. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 7 September 2020 07: 30 New
      +8
      "Le Chant des partisans" ...
      A wonderful text written in London in 1943 by a semi-Greek Anna Smirnova-Marley, nee Betulinskaya, in Russian, would hardly have reached the French if it had not been for two Jewish descendants of emigrants from the Russian Empire - Joseph Kessel and his nephew Maurice Druon (that the one whose historical novels in the 80s of the last century were exchanged in the USSR for waste paper. lol ) would not create a French version.
      For those interested - Russian and French options:

      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 7 September 2020 07: 57 New
        +7
        The songs mentioned in the article.
        "Dark Night" - composer Nikita Bogoslovsky, and poet Vladimir Agatov (Valvl Isidorovich Gurevich)
        Written in 1943 for the film Two Soldiers.
        Performed by Mark Naumovich Bernes.


        "Dugout", "Fire is beating in a cramped stove ..." - music by Konstantin Yakovlevich Listov, verses by Alexei Alexandrovich Surkov (1941).
        Soon the song went to the front. It was performed by soldiers, front-line creative groups, including it entered the repertoire of the famous Lydia Ruslanova.
        However, in the summer of 1942, an unspoken ban was announced on the song, since someone from above the lines "It's not easy for me to reach you, but four steps to death" were regarded as decadent. In August, gramophone records with a song recording performed by Lydia Ruslanova were seized and almost completely destroyed. The poet was recommended to remove the mention of death - Surkov refused. Then the Main Political Directorate imposed a ban on the broadcast of the song on the front-line radio and its performance by creative groups. The poet received a letter from six tank guards with the following request: "Write for these people that there are four thousand English miles to death, but leave us as it is - we know how many steps there are to her, to death." ... Yet "optimistic" changes to the song were made - without the author's knowledge ...
        Soon, eyes were closed to the ban.

        Lydia Andreevna Ruslanova (nee Praskovya Andrianovna Leikina-Gorshenina):
        1. A. Privalov
          A. Privalov 7 September 2020 08: 22 New
          +7
          "Blue Scarf" - music by Jerzy Petersburski. The author of the words and the title of the song is Yakov Markovich Goldenberg. (1940)
          Several versions of the song's lyrics were in use. She was included in their repertoire by famous performers: Vadim Kozin, Mikhail Garkavi, Lidia Ruslanova, Ekaterina Yurovskaya, Isabella Yurieva.

          "The Blue Handkerchief" performed by the brilliant Claudia Ivanovna Shulzhenko. The music was arranged by her husband, Vladimir Filippovich Coralli (Wolf Froimovich Kemper):


          "The Road to Berlin" - composer Mark Grigorievich Fradkin, verses by Yevgeny Aronovich Dolmatovsky (1944)
          Initially, the song was known under the name "Streets-Roads", the name "Bryanskaya Street" is also found.
          Performed by Leonid Osipovich Utyosov (Lazar Iosifovich Weisbein):
          1. alstr
            alstr 8 September 2020 10: 15 New
            +1
            By the way, Blue Handkerchief and her melody is the very popular war song.
            There were only about a dozen official versions of the song (which were released on records by different artists). And there are about fifty folk options.
            In addition, the lyrics were set to this music: "June 22. Exactly at 4 o'clock. Kiev was bombed, We were told that the war had begun."
            Moreover. and This song began with four verses, but as the war progressed, verses were added. And there were also several dozen popular options (often indecent).
    3. Liam
      Liam 7 September 2020 08: 35 New
      +1
      The most popular "war" song in the West was Lily Marlene.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 7 September 2020 09: 42 New
        +5
        And in the USSR in the late 80s - only performed by Patricia Kaas laughing
        1. Liam
          Liam 7 September 2020 09: 46 New
          +1
          I prefer the original by Marlene Dietrich)
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 7 September 2020 09: 52 New
            +5
            Greetings! hi
            Boring original)) Marlene Dietrich sang this song ... to Americans since their landing in North Africa - hence the popularity
            1. Liam
              Liam 7 September 2020 10: 00 New
              +1
              If in other cases the songs "migrated" from the allies to the allies, in this case, initially the song is "enemy")
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 7 September 2020 10: 07 New
                +4
                By the way, I recently found out that Dietrich was messing with Remarque. ₽) Most likely, the prototype of the feminine protagonist from the Arc de Triomphe and Life on loan)).
    4. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 7 September 2020 22: 10 New
      0
      Does anybody here
      Remember Vera Linn?
      Remember how she said
      'We will meet again
      Some sunny day ... '

      PF The Wall ©
      Lynn learned about Vera from the Floyds in the distant 79th.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 7 September 2020 07: 28 New
    +3
    At first, revolutionary songs of the civil war came to mind. And then "Get up, the country is huge."
    1. depressant
      depressant 7 September 2020 10: 11 New
      +4
      Here is my favorite song of the Great Patriotic War - it's the same:

      Get up, the country is huge,
      Get up to the mortal battle ...
      With fascist strength
      dark,
      With the damned
      horde
      Let the noble rage!
      Boils !!
      Like a wave !!!
      There is a people's war
      Holy war...

      When I hear this song, I always get up, as if something lifts me up from my place, as if this is a hymn that accompanies me all my life.
      The house was often used by companies of military retirees. Among them were the participants of the Great Patriotic War. And, as was customary during the Soviet Union, they sang. "Katyusha" sounded. Mother had a wonderful mezzo-soprano, she set the tone.
      Nature offended me. Only hoarsely and stifled, or even in a whisper, I bring out "Get up, the country is huge ..." When I'm lucky to hear.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 7 September 2020 12: 08 New
        +1
        The words were written in 1916 by the teacher of the Rybinsk gymnasium, Alexander Adolfovich Bode. Before the start of the Great Patriotic War, realizing that it was inevitable, he himself sent the text to Lebedev-Kumach, and he, using it, modestly kept silent about the name of the real author.

        Alexander BODE

        HOLY WAR

        Get up, the country is huge!
        Get up on a mortal battle
        With the Germanic power of the dark,
        With the Teutonic Horde!

        Let the rage be noble
        Boils like a wave!
        There is a people's war -
        "Holy war!"

        Like two different poles,
        We are different in everything.
        We are fighting for light, for peace,
        They are for the "Kingdom of Darkness."

        We fight back stranglers
        All fiery ideas
        To rapists, robbers,
        Tormentors of people.

        Let the rage be noble
        Boils like a wave!
        There is a people's war -
        "Holy war!"

        Black wings don’t dare
        Fly over the Motherland.
        Its fields are spacious
        Do not dare to trample the enemy!

        Rotten german scum
        Let's drive a bullet in the forehead.
        Shore off humanity
        Shall we break a strong coffin!

        Let the rage be noble
        Boils like a wave!
        There is a people's war -
        "Holy war!"

        Let's go smash with all my might
        With all my heart, with all my soul,
        For our dear land,
        For the native Russian land!

        Get up, Huge Country!
        Get up on a mortal battle
        With the Germanic power of the dark
        With the Teutonic Horde!

        Let the rage be noble
        Boils like a wave!
        There is a people's war -
        "Holy war!"

        1916

        A.A. Bode
        1. Bar1
          Bar1 7 September 2020 13: 23 New
          +5
          In general, the court did not recognize Bode's authorship, so such things should be proven.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 7 September 2020 14: 10 New
            +3
            You still remember our Basmanny Court, you found someone to cite as an example. laughing
        2. Free wind
          Free wind 7 September 2020 14: 51 New
          +3
          Who wrote the melody? The melody is the strongest there.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 7 September 2020 15: 05 New
            +2
            Dunaevsky, if I'm not mistaken.
            1. A. Privalov
              A. Privalov 7 September 2020 15: 23 New
              +6
              Quote: Sea Cat
              Dunaevsky, if I'm not mistaken.

              Music by Alexander Vasilyevich Alexandrov. hi
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 8 September 2020 09: 25 New
                +1
                Alexander, hello. hi Thanks for the edit, I was just too lazy to look in and check. request
        3. Sugar Honeyovich
          Sugar Honeyovich 7 September 2020 16: 15 New
          +3
          Post-Soviet bike.
        4. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 7 September 2020 18: 09 New
          +3
          It is very strange to read about "black wings" in poetry of 1916. The saturation of troops with airplanes was then scanty. Again, in addition to the "German scum" then there was also the Austro-Hungarian scum, I don't even mention the Turks.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 7 September 2020 22: 15 New
            0
            ... It is very strange to read about "black wings" in poetry of 1916. Airplane saturation

            What the fuck do airplanes have to do with it ?? This is a metaphor ... well, the license of poetics, if that is clearer ... although, I doubt it is clearer.
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 7 September 2020 22: 23 New
              +2
              The general style of the poem does not correspond to 1916. The Germans then did not invade our territory (well, do not count Poland or Galicia - and there, in general, the Austro-Hungarians were - our territory). Absolutely the text does not correspond to the PMV.
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 7 September 2020 22: 25 New
                -1
                Well, say so. 'Saturation with airplanes' - what was it for?
  • Revolver
    Revolver 7 September 2020 08: 01 New
    +6
    You should also remember the Italian "Bella Ciao". It appeared after Italy in 1943 sided with the Allies and declared war on Germany. This is the song of the Italian partisans operating in that part of Italy, which was occupied by the Germans.
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 7 September 2020 08: 44 New
      +8
      Quote: Nagan
      Bella Ciao

      In fact, Bella Ciao is an Italian folk song, although it was sung by members of the Resistance movement in the Modena Mountains during World War II, it became widely known worldwide only in the late 1940s.
      The acquaintance of the mass audience with Bella Ciao took place at the 1st International Festival of Youth and Students, held in Prague from July 25 to August 16, 1947. On the way to the festival, it was first sung on the train by the former Emilian partisans, and then it was learned by all the other Italian delegates. It sounded everywhere and in Prague itself, becoming one of the most popular Italian songs in the world. Immediately after the Prague Festival, Bella Ciao was translated into other languages ​​and could also be heard at all subsequent youth festivals. In the 1960s, Italian pop singer Milva and French actor Yves Montand became the first professional performers of the popular song. Later it was sung by many famous musicians in different countries of the world. In Cuba, Bella Ciao has become a traditional youth song (the Italian partigiano was replaced by the Spanish guerrillero).

      This song was “brought” to the Soviet Union from Italy in 1963 by Muslim Magomayev, a traditional performer of Italian songs. Magomayev performed Bella Chao in two versions - Italian and Russian (to the words of the poet Anatoly Gorokhov).

      The popularity of the song in the USSR was also determined by the American singer Dean Reed, who came to the USSR with this song in 1975.

      A surge of interest in the song in the Soviet Union was caused by the release of the Yugoslav film "On the Trail of the Tiger" in the early 1970s, in which this song sounds.
      1. Liam
        Liam 7 September 2020 08: 55 New
        -1
        Quote: A. Privalov
        In fact, Bella Ciao is an Italian folk song

        Koilen (3'.30) - Mishka Ziganoff 1919

        It looks like the song has Ukrainian Jewish roots
  • Avior
    Avior 7 September 2020 08: 09 New
    10
    The only American song that stuck with us was "Comin 'in on a Wing and a Prayer" ("On one wing and at prayer"). Well, that is, "On parole and on one wing" in the version of the immortal Leonid Utesov, who removed the "prayer" from it, just in case. The rest of the translation is very accurate.


    According to the widespread version [2], the plot is based on the events of February 26, 1943, when the B-17 "Flying Fortress" bomber, piloted by Hugh G. Ashcraft Jr. from Charlotte, was badly damaged and returned to a base in England. The aircraft, named by its crew as "The Southern Comfort", was severely damaged by anti-aircraft fire, rudder and nose were damaged, engine No. 3 had a hole in the oil line and burned [3].

    When they flew to the shores of Britain, Ashcraft told the team over the radio: "Those who want to, please pray" [3]. Miraculously, Ashcraft brought the Yuzhny Comfort to the airfield and landed safely. The news of the successful rescue of a pilot and crew who had "prayed" to their plane spread throughout his home state of North Carolina and elsewhere.

    The video uses footage from the movie "Beauty Memphis" (the bombers had their own names).
    ps
    It's fair to mention
    that the author, in his own style, threw mud at the pilots who fought with the Nazis, although the topic of the article was completely different. Made this unpleasant impression ...
    1. depressant
      depressant 7 September 2020 10: 16 New
      +2
      Thanks for the video, colleague! Do not be upset!))))
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 7 September 2020 22: 23 New
        -2
        To be honest, I like the a'capellic rendition of the original 'Wing' nd Pray 'better. A very cool thing.
        Utyosovy is also nothing, I admit it.
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 7 September 2020 11: 29 New
      +7
      Sergei, at your suggestion I just finished watching "The Beauty of Memphis" and, you know, I really liked the film. good
      1. Avior
        Avior 7 September 2020 13: 24 New
        +4
        I also like it, a good movie.
  • ee2100
    ee2100 7 September 2020 08: 14 New
    +2
    An interesting look at war through the prism of songs. In fact, they reflect the I mentality of the people. If the work meets the folk tea and the song becomes folk.
    And from myself.
    https://youtu.be/lYqV8srdOPU
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 7 September 2020 08: 32 New
    +5
    The author's article was perfectly complemented by comments.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 7 September 2020 08: 56 New
    +5
    For these beautiful songs to live they must be sung.

    How many people do this?

    Every May 9, after the "Immortal Regiment", 4 generations of our three families gather in the garden of a private house to celebrate Victory (for more than 30 years), remember our veteran fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers, great-great-grandfathers (and they were with us earlier) and-sing their favorite songs-few hours. Even relatives who have left Italy, Germany, Russia come specially, or they are present on Skype, yearning ...

    ! Holy war ", Dark night", "Darkie", "Katbsha", "Evening on the road", "Sevastopol", Cherished stone, There is a city that I see in a dream, Misty morning, My joy lives, And on the last yes for five, I'll buy three horses, And I'll give the coachman for vodka, Eh, drive, brother, hurry. and so on, etc.

    These songs were sung by our grandfathers and grandmothers with us earlier in life, now we are singing and they, as it were, continue to sing with us ...

    Dug estuaries, drooping chestnuts -
    Beauty-Odessa under enemy fire.
    With a hot machine gun on watch, tirelessly
    A young boy in a sea pea coat.
    And this night is like yesterday
    Rushing screaming and shooting.
    The boy is never scared
    And it will become scary, he will say to himself:

    You're from Odessa, Mishka, which means
    That you are not afraid of either grief or trouble!
    After all, you are a sailor, Bear, a sailor does not cry,
    And never lose courage!


    ... and so on, etc.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 7 September 2020 09: 07 New
    +4
    A soulful song has helped our country at any time. This is not one note for you for a long time under the lighting effects.
    1. depressant
      depressant 7 September 2020 10: 44 New
      +8
      nikvic46, so after all what era, such songs ((
      Earlier, even 7-8 years ago, sometimes in the evenings I heard young people on the playground trying to sing something modern, but it didn’t fit - neither an ordinary voice, nor a choir, did not get into the mood, and the soul did not go. The discordant chorus quickly fell silent. And then, overwhelmed by the desire to sing something, the girls sang "Katyusha", it worked out. The guys even played along with the guitars. The grandmothers gathered in a company in the same place, but only during the day, celebrated the birthday of one of them and sang Soviet songs in chorus, including military ones. And now there is none of this. The grandmothers are extinct, and the present time, it does not fall into the song. Do not count as such delusional, indistinct explosions of drug addicts in the dead of night. There is nothing. I don't know how where, but in my village the people finally stopped singing.
      There is only one person. Sometimes at night, returning from work to a neighboring house, he sings extremely well in an undertone from Makarevich "If you are tired ..."
      Well, at least such an exception.
      1. Van 16
        Van 16 7 September 2020 15: 10 New
        +5
        from Makarevich "If you are tired ..."

        I beg your pardon, what is this song? The only thing that comes to mind is "who is to blame that you are tired that you did not find what you were waiting for," But this is not Makarevich, this is Sunday.
        And the fact that they began to sing much less is absolutely certain.
        1. depressant
          depressant 7 September 2020 16: 49 New
          +3
          Colleague, in fact, Makarevich has a song "I'm tired", well, maybe the words are not the same as I brought it, I don't remember it, but the guy is definitely not singing from "Sunday"))))
          I just wanted to say that Soviet songs expressed the state of many. The current "hits" express the state of one - the performer. The state of an individual person, not confused by collectivity, and even more so by the desire to share his "special" feelings with someone else. He presents himself as something unique, and where is someone like him to find? So the people do not sing it. Neither young, let alone aged people. It's even funny to imagine this.
          It seems that the time for folk songs is over. It seems like the song time has passed. At least in my village people had a funeral service. The everyday culture has changed.
          1. Van 16
            Van 16 7 September 2020 17: 25 New
            +3
            Thank you, I just wondered what song it was.
            And so they wrote everything right, you can't argue.
          2. Phil77
            Phil77 7 September 2020 21: 08 New
            +4
            Quote: depressant
            It seems like the song time has passed. At least in my village people had a funeral service. The everyday culture has changed.

            Oh, how right you are, dear Lyudmila Yakovlevna! I judge by the way according to my district. Earlier, literally five years ago, often our fellow citizens, well, not quite sober / that right and cannot be considered a sin / sang songs. the voices are not what we need. But they sang. The repertoire, respectively, was from the word-diverse. At the moment, silence! Or obscene bickering and clarification of relations with each other. The songs are gone! Everyday culture? But with this more and more trouble.
            1. depressant
              depressant 7 September 2020 21: 38 New
              +4
              The people are withered, Seryozha. And the younger generations, as if knowingly withered, come. No local initiative! I have seen a lot of episodes in films, and I watched a lot of videos about the fact that in the West, almost every settlement has its own local holidays. And who is it? Activists! And the entire population is preparing for them. And it has become so customary that the mayors are fussing with preparation. And the inhabitants of settlements where there are no such holidays, go to their neighbors. Holidays are uncomplicated. A fair, simple contests, often funny and stupid: sometimes husbands drag their wives through a long hole with water, then they run for a head of cheese from a slippery mountain, then they run away from logs along the same mountain - all dirty, funny, spectators are terribly happy, prizes are there some ... And what are the Japanese doing! Contests are hilarious, creativity is off the charts. And these are the Japanese killed by work ...
              We are somehow too excessively gloomy. It's good that at least laughter on the street in the evenings became audible. For the past two years, there has been a bad silence in the village. Like late at night. And now let them not sing, do not arrange a collective village fun, well, at least they started laughing. But at the same time, for some reason, it comes to mind: still young!
        2. Avior
          Avior 7 September 2020 21: 29 New
          +3
          This is a song by Makarevich of the 90s.
          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MADe90GWQuk
          1. Old
            Old Michael 7 September 2020 22: 26 New
            +3
            I beg your pardon, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, for the invasion. A very acute topic was raised.
            depressant: the younger generations, as if knowingly withered, are coming.

            But nature abhors a vacuum.

            It looks and sounds, of course, impressive ... Only somehow it becomes uncomfortable.
  • Freeman
    Freeman 7 September 2020 09: 23 New
    +8
    song "Boogie Woogie, Bugle Boy" ("Boogie-woogie, bugler") - about a jazz trumpeter who got into the army as a bugle and was deprived of the opportunity to improvise. True, the clever captain quickly assembles a whole orchestra for the suffering talent, in which he begins to raise the morale of his comrades. Such is the war - with jazz and boogie ...


    I will add instead of the author


    1. Catfish
      Catfish 7 September 2020 11: 30 New
      +3
      How many times in my life have I heard this song and had no idea that it was wartime.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 7 September 2020 09: 28 New
    +5
    Their cities and villages did not burn in the flames of fires, and the price of victory, to be honest, was completely different.

    Therefore, our songs about this are completely different, understandable only to our people -

    And in the Eternal Fire can be seen a flared tank,
    Burning Russian huts,
    Burning Smolensk and burning Reichstag,
    The burning heart of a soldier.
  • Undecim
    Undecim 7 September 2020 09: 41 New
    16
    Another propaganda campaign from Kharaluzhny. Moreover, behind the brisk presentation hides, let's put it mildly, untruth and absolute ignorance of the author in the matter, which is typical for propagandists below the average level.
    To begin with, different countries have their own national culture - a set of symbols, beliefs, beliefs, values, norms of behavior patterns characteristic of the spiritual life of the human community in a particular country. Naturally, musical culture is part of the general culture and for every nation she, naturally, is her own, different from others.
    Only a very narrow-minded person can use national cultural characteristics for propaganda purposes.
    As for the songs of the war years, the allies have a lot of them. Moreover, different. Simply ignoramuses from agitprop do not know this.
    There are hilarious types of the hit Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy from the 1941 comedy Buck Privates. By the way, the film is very similar to the short-length comedy plots that were included in the Soviet "Combat Film Collections" and served the same purpose.
    And there are, let's say, tragic ones, like The Ballad of Rodger Young, a song about the feat of ordinary soldier Roger Young, who during the battle on the New Georgia island in 1943 at the cost of his life saved his comrades, covering their retreat.
    There are lyric ones like "Don't Sit Under The Apple Tree.
    And Churchill is mentioned in the songs. There is a song called Mr. Churchill Says, which uses excerpts from some of Churchill's famous speeches to the people of Great Britain.
    In all countries during the war, music helped to survive the hardships of war.
    The article has punched another hole in the site's reputation.
    1. depressant
      depressant 7 September 2020 10: 51 New
      +6
      Dear colleague, why blame the respected Author?
      He gave you the opportunity to speak out, to show your erudition in the matter, and I read your comment with great interest. And what if this article did not exist at all? Then we would not all know how wide your horizons are)))
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 7 September 2020 11: 13 New
        +8
        You see, dear Lyudmila Yakovlevna. Even if this site served solely to demonstrate my outlook and erudition, then I would prefer to demonstrate the above qualities against the background of competent authors and professional publications, and not against the background of an ignorant propaganda outline.
        But the site has several other tasks. It is read by different people with different levels of knowledge. And many believe what is written.
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 7 September 2020 11: 34 New
      +8
      The article has punched another hole in the site's reputation.

      Vic hi , we here and without the author ourselves are well versed, so that his cooking can not be read, enough comments. I've just watched a new film for myself. smile
  • BAI
    BAI 7 September 2020 09: 49 New
    +5
    It should be noted that the performance of songs during the war years and now is significantly different. I have a disc - war songs recorded in 1942-45. A very noticeable difference between the music of those years and the modern one.
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 7 September 2020 11: 15 New
      +5
      Quote: BAI
      It should be noted that the performance of songs during the war years and now is significantly different. I have a disc - war songs recorded in 1942-45. A very noticeable difference between the music of those years and the modern one.

      Naturally, there are differences. The style of performance has changed, the owners of our familiar voices have left us ...

      New musical instruments have appeared, new forms of recording music and voices, finally - new media ...
      And the music organizers want to eat something. I'm not talking about the performers ...
      Well, we have an additional opportunity to listen, evaluate and choose a performance that suits us.
  • Kwas
    Kwas 7 September 2020 11: 34 New
    +1
    Yes, the topic is so-so developed. And here's what I want to say in this regard: In songs and music in general, a person is reflected. Listen to someone's favorite (or unloved) music - and how much you can say about a person! They laughed at the phrase "Today he plays jazz, and tomorrow he will sell his homeland!", But something in it is correct. I don't impose my personal preferences and conclusions on anyone, but there is a reason to think and observe!
    1. Avior
      Avior 7 September 2020 21: 48 New
      +2
      Jazz is indirectly related to this slogan.
      These are the times of struggle against rootless cosmopolitans and the movement of dudes with their craving for American jazz by Ellington and Glen Miller, this is approximately the time of the late forties and fifties.
      Nobody forbade the Soviet jazz of Utesov with his Jolly Guys, and later Kozlov with his Arsenal did not have any special problems either.
      Another thing is that at that time jazz was already specific music, people listened to all sorts of Boniems and other ABBAs, and the "concerts" on cassettes changed every six months, listening to old music - it sucked
      smile
  • Living7111972
    Living7111972 7 September 2020 12: 08 New
    +1
    The best songs have been written ... but by the way, everyone can see who wrote and sang what. Great people! I must admit
  • gatamelata
    gatamelata 7 September 2020 16: 19 New
    -2
    1985 Pravda newspaper.
    Everything is bad with them, but we have only one honey.
    It's just a shame that the author of the history of military music does not know at all.
    I don't even want to write a commentary, the full-time propagandists are lazy, 15 rubles is not enough for them.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 7 September 2020 18: 35 New
    +3
    Cool comments!
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 7 September 2020 18: 49 New
      +5
      Good evening! And I would like to recall, though not a song from the times of the war, but one that is directly related to it.
      The song is wonderful how good!
      * At an unnamed height *, 1963, from the film * Silence *. Lev Barashkov sang it.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 7 September 2020 18: 58 New
        +4
        Near the village of Kryukovo ... VIA Flame ... takes it for the soul ...
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 7 September 2020 19: 10 New
          +2
          I agree. The guys sang it well! Both the text and the music. It is believed that the village of Kryukovo mentioned by the author was located in the Zelenograd district of the Moscow region. But in 1941 there were 12 places with this name in the battle zone for Moscow! And fierce battles were fought everywhere. Istra district, and near Naro-Fominsk, and in the Klin district.
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      3. Hiller
        Hiller 7 September 2020 19: 45 New
        +2
        My father loved her. I would like to ask: "What did you remember, dad?" Mal was ... didn't understand. Now you can't even ask
      4. Alf
        Alf 7 September 2020 22: 23 New
        +4
        Quote: Phil77
        And I would like to recall, though not a song of the times of the war, but one that is directly related to it.

        Another modern song, also goosebumps.
  • Alexander Greene
    Alexander Greene 7 September 2020 21: 29 New
    +1
    Thanks to the author, a wonderful article. It's a pity that he didn't remember the song of the Italian partisans

    O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao
    'Sta mattina mi sono alzato
    E ho trovato l'invasor

    When I was in school, we learned this song in Russian in singing lessons, then many years later, when I sang it by Italian workers of one of the shipyards, they were just delighted with the Russian varant.

    BELLA CHAO
    (Magomayev's variant)

    Goodbye, dear, I won't be back soon
    Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao
    I'll leave at dawn with the squad
    Garibaldi guerrillas

    The detachment will be covered by the native mountain,
    Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao
    Goodbye dear, I won't be back soon
    The path is not easy for the partisans

    It will be difficult for us, I know it
    Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao
    But for the freedom of the native land,
    We will fight to the end!
  • faterdom
    faterdom 7 September 2020 21: 54 New
    +2
    I have a flash drive in my car for almost all of the songs from the 19th century to the 80s maximum, years. Everything, then all these "singing cowards", howling in a nasal voice or muttering under a drum are not songs. Torquemada would send our "talented singers" to warm up for this, rightly suspecting them of having ties with "you-know-who".
    And the same Gil is not at all "Mr. Trolo-lo-lo", I am discovering a whole layer of new songs that for some reason I have never heard, for example, about Alexander Ivanovich Marinesko ...
    Only this all from childhood must be listened to, with mother's milk, so to speak. And we have from each iron at best "baskirkorov", and even a coin of some kind ...
    I remember that I gave my daughter a disc with a pirate of all the Beatles albums, and she, then closely watching the first Star Factory, asks in her blue eye: "What, were they famous?"
    And then I realized what an abyss between us, while my wife and I were at work, between us erected a TV set by Koch and Gusinsky.
  • Radikal
    Radikal 8 September 2020 12: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    ... Our Aviators' March had a German version.

    My ringtone is 'Heraus zum Kampf, Ihr Knechte der Maschinen ...'
    I remember how a taxi driver in Tel Aviv almost twisted his neck when the smart rang ... More precisely, he marched. laughing

    I have a "Holy War", and when a call comes in, those who are nearby at that moment involuntarily shudder, and accept the position - "at attention" ... hi
  • Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
    Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 8 September 2020 17: 12 New
    -2
    ... "Comin 'in on a Wing and a Prayer" .... It is fair to say that this composition was born "based on" Operation Gomorrah, during which the Anglo-American Air Force literally wiped off the face of Dresden
    .
    Rave. The song was recorded in 1943, what the fuck is Dresden?
    In general, to be honest, the author's splint is rather ridiculous. It's also strange that he didn't criticize Glenn Miller, damn it, for lack of spirituality
    1. Alf
      Alf 9 September 2020 13: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      ... "Comin 'in on a Wing and a Prayer" .... It is fair to say that this composition was born "based on" Operation Gomorrah, during which the Anglo-American Air Force literally wiped off the face of Dresden
      .
      Rave. The song was recorded in 1943, what the fuck is Dresden?

      Moreover, the song was clearly written by an Englishman. The words We walk, waddling IN THE DARKNESS, clearly indicate that the author is British, the Americans did not fly at night.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 9 September 2020 12: 30 New
    0
    Quote: Sea Cat

    The raid on Dresden was carried out only after the Germans rolled out British Coventry, and then the term "coventry" appeared.


    There was no military expediency in the bombing of Dresden. It was an intimidation operation aimed at the impression of the USSR, not Germany.

    As for Coventry. The dirty trick in this story is that the British knew about the impending raid, but in order not to shine the source of their knowledge, they decided not to do anything on purpose.