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NASA has not confirmed reports of US reluctance to invite Russia to explore the moon

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NASA has not confirmed reports of US reluctance to invite Russia to explore the moon

Some media reports that the United States does not intend to invite Russia to exploit and extract minerals on the moon are not entirely correct. This was stated by the acting NASA Deputy Director for International Affairs Michael Gold.


Speaking at a briefing for foreign journalists, Gold, answering a question from a TASS correspondent about the possibility of concluding an agreement between the countries on the exploration of the Moon, answered in the affirmative. According to him, Washington considers Russia as one of the main partners in the development of the Earth’s natural satellite, while Russia "in many respects" is already a partner of the United States, having signed the Space Treaty in 1967.

Another step towards the conclusion of an agreement between Moscow and Washington within the framework of the proposed by the American side "Artemis Accords" (Artemis Accords) for the exploration of the moon, according to Gold, could be the participation of Russia in the creation of the moonway station Gateway together with the USA.

If we pay attention to cooperation with Russia in the framework of the Artemis program, then I expect a lot from this. It can be built around the Gateway project (...) This may be the first step towards the conclusion of the “Artemis Agreements”, because Russia has already expressed interest in participating in the Gateway program

- he said.

In turn, Roskosmos announced its readiness for negotiations with NASA on the exploration of the moon, calling it another factor in establishing closer interaction between Russia and the United States.

The "Artemis Accords" published by NASA on Friday, May 15, will be a series of bilateral agreements between the United States and partner countries for the exploration of the moon, including mining. The basis of the agreement will be, to a large extent, the principles of the 1967 Outer Space Treaty.

Earlier, Reuters reported that the United States is preparing a new agreement on the extraction of minerals on the moon, but Russia's participation in this project is not provided, because the Pentagon, which considers Russia as an adversary in space, is opposed.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 16 May 2020 13: 49 New
    +7
    "... I didn't say YES, my lord ...
    you didn't say NO ... "

    Everything is straight from the song ...
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 16 May 2020 13: 54 New
      -1
      Well, everything is as in the well-known anectode. If a woman said "Yes", then it is not a woman
      Without the USSR vs NASA race, everything is not profitable in one budget. Naturally
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 16 May 2020 14: 11 New
        -2
        So what about the fact that NASA has not confirmed reports of the US’s unwillingness to invite Russia to explore the moon?
        Smoke without fire does not happen!

        It is not scientists who rule the world, but global financiers and their proteges in international politics.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 16 May 2020 14: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: Tatiana
          It is not scientists who rule the world, but global financiers

          Now, without financing global finance, nothing will ever take off, and the Pentagon and the Ministry of Defense invested in that race. The total budget has not even dreamed of world dates
      2. poquello
        poquello 16 May 2020 15: 39 New
        0
        Quote: Tusv
        Well, everything is as in the well-known anectode. If a woman said "Yes", then it is not a woman
        Without the USSR vs NASA race, everything is not profitable in one budget. Naturally

        star-tailed senators in the USA interfere with NASA’s work, just like the party bureau in the USSR
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 16 May 2020 15: 57 New
          0
          Quote: poquello
          star-tailed senators in the USA interfere with NASA’s work, just like the party bureau in the USSR

          Well, yes. Thanks to the congressmen. The astronaut certification authority has shifted dramatically from Florida to Korolev. It seems that the first flight is preparing for May 27
        2. PavelT
          PavelT 17 May 2020 01: 45 New
          +2
          That's for sure! Even worse than the party bureau.
          Senators Democrats digging under Trump with his idea to land on the moon by the end of 2024 (the end of his second term to resign from his post under fanfare). They previously prohibited NASA from developing resources on the moon (needed to build a base there) under the moronic excuse: "It distracts from flying to Mars!"
          But the most interesting is that several Republican senators also sniffed / bargained with them. Details are here: https://habr.com/en/post/496112/
          In general, the disgusting political games of people (who do not understand anything in space) for the money of taxpayers, for the sake of their strange ideas and for the sake of maintaining production in their states.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 16 May 2020 14: 04 New
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      they said NO ...

      "NO" is a delayed "YES" !!
    3. knn54
      knn54 16 May 2020 14: 18 New
      +1
      --Messages ... are not entirely correct.
      And not that "Yes", and not that "No" .... (Also in song).
    4. Bykov.
      Bykov. 16 May 2020 14: 25 New
      -2
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      "... I didn't say YES, my lord ...
      you didn't say NO ... "

      Everything is straight from the song ...

      But who will even ask them? Their opinion is number sixteen. If we need it, then we will begin to master it.
    5. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 16 May 2020 20: 00 New
      0
      This helium surrendered to them.
  2. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 16 May 2020 13: 56 New
    +5
    If mankind cannot unite for space exploration, it will not be able to escape from the Earth.
    1. nPuBaTuP
      nPuBaTuP 16 May 2020 14: 01 New
      -1
      Here you are right ...
      But I don’t want to unite with mattresses ... What we can’t eat already (s)
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 16 May 2020 14: 44 New
        -5
        Quote: nPuBaTuP

        But I don’t want to unite with mattresses ...

        I agree with you.
        Considering the experience of using the ISS jointly with the Americans, I would not like to repeat this experience in a joint lunar program with them. Again we will be "on the sidelines", and 80% of dividends, scientific and otherwise, will go to mattress mats.
        Russia has all the possibilities, except the will, to do it on its own. Or on equal terms with China. And NASA will cover our times.
        1. Courier
          Courier 16 May 2020 15: 27 New
          +5
          On equal terms with China?
          You don’t know China at all, my friend, at all.
          The Americans are better in this regard.
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 16 May 2020 18: 00 New
            -4
            Quote: Courier
            On equal terms with China?
            You don’t know China at all, my friend, at all.
            The Americans are better in this regard.

            Of course your owners are better for you.
            1. Courier
              Courier 16 May 2020 18: 19 New
              +1
              Dear Krasnoyarsk, That specifically made China for Russia in recent 6 years?
              How has China helped Russia?
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 16 May 2020 19: 23 New
                -3
                Quote: Courier
                Dear Krasnoyarsk, That specifically made China for Russia in recent 6 years?

                If my memory serves me, then nothing bad.
                Can your mattresses boast of the same?
                No, they can’t. But they can boast of an incredible bunch of nasty things done to us. Will you argue?
                Quote: Courier
                How has China helped Russia?

                And with what fright should he help us? Are we disabled?
        2. Carnifexx
          Carnifexx 16 May 2020 15: 34 New
          +4
          Given the experience of using, jointly with the Americans, the ISS, I would not want to repeat this experience in a joint lunar program with them.
          Hmm, on the contrary, these are competencies at a very low price.

          Again we will be "in the wings", and 80% of dividends, scientific and otherwise, will go to mattress mats.
          This is the point, the United States incurred about 90% of the costs associated with the construction and operation of the station.

          Russia has all the possibilities, except the will, to do it on its own.
          There are problems with money and a rocket for this. To send a section of a station or a manned module to the moon, there is no rocket at all.

          Or on equal terms with China.
          The PRC has already created and tested a completely new passenger device (in contrast to the version of the union of its production earlier)

          And NASA will cover our times.
          They never fooled anyone. This organization has never harmed us. On the contrary, their orders saved our space program from complete collapse.
        3. eklmn
          eklmn 16 May 2020 16: 00 New
          -1
          “Again we will be" on the sidelines ", and 80% of dividends, scientific and otherwise, will go to mattress mats. "
          The fact that “at the catch” is clear from the very beginning. The project is Amer’s, and the hardware also. They can give a list of what needs to be done and in what time frame. But Roscosmos cannot work at the pace of NASA (I could be wrong).
          Rogozin once refused to “bring shells,” but you don’t want to stay without the moon.
          As for scientific dividends. Each country makes its own scientific programs on the ISS. Americans do tests and scientific works for amersky universities / schools. And on earth there are competitions for universities / schools for the selection of programs on the ISS. So there is nothing to share, you know, develop your ....
          1. slipped
            slipped 16 May 2020 19: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: eklmn
            “Again we will be" on the sidelines ", and 80% of dividends, scientific and otherwise, will go to mattress mats. "


            Are these your secret desires? lol

            Quote: eklmn
            The fact that “at the catch” is clear from the very beginning.


            Yah! laughing

            Quote: eklmn
            The project is Amer’s, and the hardware also.


            The ISS has both theirs and ours. They have been complementing each other for 20 years.

            Quote: eklmn
            They can give a list of what needs to be done and in what time frame. But Roscosmos cannot work at the pace of NASA (I could be wrong).


            You are mistaken in both points.

            Quote: eklmn
            Rogozin once refused to “bring shells,” but you don’t want to stay without the moon.


            He did not refuse his words, and on our moon the AMS flies in October next year.

            Quote: eklmn
            As for scientific dividends. Each country makes its own scientific programs on the ISS. Americans do tests and scientific works for amersky universities / schools.


            Russian do tests and scientific works for Russian universities / schools.

            Quote: eklmn
            So there is nothing to share, you know, develop your ....


            ????. What did you want to say? lol
            1. eklmn
              eklmn 16 May 2020 19: 53 New
              -5
              Uv slipped,
              comments need to be carefully, pls ...
              the phrase “Again we will be" in the wings ", and 80% of dividends, scientific and others, will go to mattress mats. ”Refer not to me, but the floors above. Secondly, “we do not want to be in the wings” - these are Rogozin's words about the refusal to cooperate in the lunar program Artemis.
              So it’s a misfortune. But you have a second attempt ... And be careful - divided into what I said personally and the phrases that I comment on ....
              1. slipped
                slipped 16 May 2020 20: 05 New
                +1
                Quote: eklmn
                Uv slipped,
                comments need to be carefully, pls ...


                She was in your post without links, these are not your secret desires?

                Quote: eklmn
                Secondly, “we don’t want to be caught” - these are the words of Rogozin about the refusal of cooperation in the lunar program Artemis.


                These are Rogozin's words that we "do not want to be in the wings", no "refusal to cooperate in the lunar program Artemis." they don't have it. On the contrary, we offer them cooperation. laughing And even invited to tea to talk. lol We invited tea to the Chinese.

                Quote: eklmn
                So it’s a misfortune. But you have a second attempt ... And be careful - divided into what I said personally and the phrases that I comment on ....


                Type correctly and people will reach for you. lol
                1. eklmn
                  eklmn 16 May 2020 20: 16 New
                  -4
                  “She was in your post without links, these are not your secret desires? ”
                  There is a link, the phrase was in quotation marks - look for the source a floor above “Krasnoyarsk”.
                  “On the contrary, we offer them cooperation.”
                  They don’t know about it, because nowhere has NASA reported this. Like Roskosmos.
                  Once again I repeat - "more in vain" swarm ...
                  1. slipped
                    slipped 16 May 2020 20: 24 New
                    +1
                    Quote: eklmn
                    “On the contrary, we offer them cooperation.”
                    They don’t know about it, because nowhere has NASA reported this.


                    So earlier we ourselves wanted to come to them to talk, last year, but they were scared. lol

                    https://russian.rt.com/science/news/747148-nasa-roskosmos-priglashenie

                    Now Roscosmos officially invited the leadership of NASA to itself. laughing They will come - let's talk about the moon. Do not come, let's talk about this with China.
                    1. eklmn
                      eklmn 16 May 2020 20: 36 New
                      -2
                      “Do not come, let's talk about it with China.” They may come, but the conversation with China must begin without waiting for NASA.
                      Voporos - what can Russia offer China? China has its own powerful missile, it has flown once already (Russia does not have it). China wants to have its own ISS, here Russia could offer something, but lagged behind the Chinese project. China wants the moon, but China's hardware is already ahead of the Russian one. So good luck ....
                      If we put aside the “we-first-in-space” pustomony, today Russia has nothing to offer China or NASA. And this “sadness” for many years ...
                      1. slipped
                        slipped 16 May 2020 20: 52 New
                        +2
                        Quote: eklmn
                        “Do not come, let's talk about it with China.” They may come, but the conversation with China must begin without waiting for NASA.


                        Duc already and in full. https://ria.ru/20200314/1568588965.html

                        Quote: eklmn
                        Voporos - what can Russia offer China?


                        Read the link above.

                        Quote: eklmn
                        China has its own powerful missile, it has flown once already (Russia does not have it).


                        This one is "on hydrogen", but lifts like "Proton-M", what is "on heptyl"? laughing Which is "Long March 5"? She flew three times, once unsuccessfully.

                        Quote: eklmn
                        China wants to have its own ISS,


                        The ISS cannot be "our own". The first letter of the abbreviation stands for "international", i.e. consisting of different parts of different countries.

                        Quote: eklmn
                        here Russia could offer something, but lagged behind the Chinese project.


                        Again past laughing "Tianhe" repeats the station "Mir",



                        and in its truncated version:



                        The only plus is the ability to implement some new solutions that appeared after the flooding of our station.

                        Quote: eklmn
                        China wants the moon, but China's hardware is already ahead of the Russian one. So good luck ....


                        It is not clear what you mean? Russian RTGs are standing on Chinese lunar sites; without them, this hardware will stupidly freeze.

                        Quote: eklmn
                        If we put aside the "we-first-in-space" pustomony,


                        We really, without fools, FIRST IN SPACE. Did you doubt Secret desires again? laughing

                        Quote: eklmn
                        then today Russia has nothing to offer China or NASA. And this “sadness” for many years ...


                        Are you really so dumb or pretending to be? laughing We have something to offer both NASA and China in a joint international program.
                      2. eklmn
                        eklmn 16 May 2020 20: 57 New
                        -2
                        Good Luck !!!
                      3. slipped
                        slipped 16 May 2020 21: 01 New
                        +1
                        Quote: eklmn
                        Good Luck !!!


                        Well, it was necessary immediately ... at home .... then desires will not be secret. laughing
                    2. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 17 May 2020 14: 59 New
                      0
                      "We are really, no fools, the FIRST IN SPACE." ////
                      ----
                      It should be added: "WERE"
                    3. slipped
                      slipped 17 May 2020 15: 34 New
                      +1
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      It should be added: "WERE"


                      How the Jews bomb lol Most likely it is worth adding that in the near future we are planning a lot of interesting programs on space topics.

                      Starting next year, we begin our Lunar program, a universal landing platform for automatic lunar spacecraft is designed and is going to:



                      The new heavy promising carrier Angara-A5 begins its satellite launches in the interests of the Ministry of Defense, but the construction of the launch for the "civil" version is in full swing, in 2023 the first launch:



                      A new ISS module for the Russian segment - MLM-U "Nauka" with an advanced research and production complex on board is in full swing:



                      The cheapest launch vehicle in the world and very reliable launch vehicle Soyuz-2 is regularly launched from various cosmodromes - its next launch is due in five days, we are expanding our orbital constellation of EKS vehicles.

                      Everything with us goes on as usual, without unnecessary pathos. We are in no hurry. laughing
                    4. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 17 May 2020 16: 03 New
                      0
                      This is already positive! good
                      Backlog can always be reduced and leap forward. drinks
                    5. slipped
                      slipped 17 May 2020 16: 10 New
                      +1
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      Backlog can always be reduced and leap forward. drinks


                      Once again, we are in no hurry and in no hurry. We now have a very pragmatic program, rather even applied in terms of work on the Earth. We are trying to introduce the results of our space activities "to the masses" as much as possible - for example, by increasing the number of civil subscribers of our space groupings: we are getting closer to people. Previously it was called - to help the national economy laughing

                      As for fundamental scientific research - now in the near and far space there are several spacecraft, both domestic and foreign, with our advanced scientific devices, the data from which we receive regularly, using one or another in various scientific works.
                2. poquello
                  poquello 17 May 2020 16: 49 New
                  0
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  "We are really, no fools, the FIRST IN SPACE." ////
                  ----
                  It should be added: "WERE"

                  The first apparatus in the world to make a soft landing on the moon was the Soviet automatic station Luna-9 in 1966.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 16 May 2020 16: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    If humanity cannot unite for space exploration, it will never be able to escape from the Earth.

    It is strange to hear this from people who cannot unite in a single Middle East.
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 17 May 2020 00: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    If mankind cannot unite for space exploration, it will not be able to escape from the Earth.

    Workers of all countries, unite drinks
  • Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 16 May 2020 13: 58 New
    -1
    I wonder if we will live to see the moment when Russia and the United States build a station in the orbit of the moon and begin to extract resources?
    The idea is complex, but necessary for the development of our civilization.
    Imagine, because from the moon you can launch ships to Mars, and this is the development of Mars! Also, the Moon is well suited for the leading edge of the Earth's defense against alien invasion.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 16 May 2020 14: 01 New
      +6
      the front edge of protecting the earth from alien invasion.


      laughing wassat laughing
      Better to invade alien worlds.

      It's simple here. If they mastered the technology of displacement for tens or hundreds of light years of shock-colonization groups. What good is doing defense? These are fundamentally different levels of civilization.
      1. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 16 May 2020 14: 13 New
        -4
        It's simple here. If they mastered the technology of displacement for tens or hundreds of light years of shock-colonization groups. What good is doing defense? These are fundamentally different levels of civilization.

        Well, we don’t know for sure, maybe they only know what to fly in the light years. Maybe their weapons are effective only on materials that we have not mastered? Maybe their materials that they have mastered are quite vulnerable to missiles (well, why, missiles in a vacuum, if not, put another engine and shunting engines instead of rudders)? And then, they simply may not expect this, they may even fly with the world and get missiles. But on TV they say that the threat is destroyed.)
        Over time, weapons will develop, defensive complexes on the moon, too.
      2. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 16 May 2020 15: 04 New
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        If they mastered travel technology for tens or hundreds of light years
        There was either a story, or a story, with humor, about the race of lizards, who, being at a medieval level somehow managed to master interstellar flights on certain hyper sailboats, intercepted Voyager, I don’t remember how, completely intact, and pinned down with cavalry to Earth , has developed greatly since the launch of Voyager.
      3. poquello
        poquello 16 May 2020 16: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: donavi49
        It's simple here. If they mastered the technology of displacement for tens or hundreds of light years of shock-colonization groups. What good is doing defense? These are fundamentally different levels of civilization.

        one forester has every chance to persuade a company of punitive because he knows the forest
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 16 May 2020 14: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      I wonder if we will live to see the moment when Russia and the United States build a station in the orbit of the moon and begin to extract resources?

      Back in the days of Khrushchev, the folk ditty walked
      "We will go to the moon
      We will plow the virgin soil there " good
      1. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 16 May 2020 14: 14 New
        -1
        We will go to the moon
        We’ll plow the virgin soil

        Well, it’s unlikely that we will remove virgin soil there. Although, no one forbade to take zemlyatse with them.)
      2. nikvic46
        nikvic46 16 May 2020 15: 29 New
        0
        Stepan, Russia. There was one more song "My Vasya. You will be the first on the moon".
    3. figwam
      figwam 16 May 2020 14: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      for the front line of protecting the earth from alien invasion.

      Quote: donavi49
      If they mastered the technology of displacement for tens or hundreds of light years of shock-colonization groups.

      In Hollywood, they’ll also remove something else)
    4. major147
      major147 16 May 2020 14: 45 New
      -1
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      The moon is well suited for the leading edge of Earth's defense against alien invasion.

      From meteorites, this is vital!
    5. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 16 May 2020 16: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      I wonder if we will live to see the moment when Russia and the United States build a station in the orbit of the moon and begin to extract resources?

      We are not ... But the fact that American astronauts do not want to fly in used diapers (the Russian design of the bathroom is simply unique) is more than obvious.
      Until mankind finishes with this craving for the consumerism of everything and everything, no one will let it into Space. You don’t even have to check. Or are you 100% sure that man is the king of nature? Haha three times. Go to the COVID-19 pandemic right away ...
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 May 2020 13: 59 New
    -1
    If the Fashingtonians can throw a "partner", they will throw him! No options. You can sign hundreds of contracts with them on any terms ... and hear: "Bolivar can't take down two ..." O'Henry knew those about whom he wrote ...
    You have to sign, you have to ... but first of all think "for your interest ..."
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 16 May 2020 14: 07 New
    +3
    https://lenta.ru/news/2006/01/25/moon/
    The Russian base on the moon will appear before American astronauts land on a nearby celestial body. "We plan to create a permanent station on the Moon by 2015, and from 2020 industrial production of a rare isotope, helium-3, may begin on the Earth's satellite," said Nikolai Sevastyanov, head of RSC Energia. The newspaper "Kommersant" writes about it.

    Sevastyanov also noted that in 2015 the Clipper reusable spacecraft will be "put into operation", with the help of which flights to the Moon will be carried out. The intermediate target for the Russian spacecraft will be the ISS, which, according to the head of the rocket and space corporation, by this time will turn into an international spaceport. In addition to the Clipper, intended mainly for transporting people, the interorbital tug Parom will participate in the construction of the lunar base.

    Helium-3, whose reserves on the moon, according to preliminary estimates, amount to millions of tons, should become fuel for non-waste thermonuclear reactors. In addition to its production, Russian spacecraft, according to the official, will carry out commercial orders for the delivery of goods into space.

    Representatives of NASA also consider the presence of helium-3 in lunar minerals to be a serious reason for the development of the satellite. At the same time, NASA plans to carry out its first flight no earlier than 2018. It is known that so far the United States remains the only state whose representatives visited the Moon - the American aerospace agency sent 1969 manned expeditions there from 1972 to 6. China and Japan also planned the creation of lunar bases, but this is likely to happen in the 2020s.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 16 May 2020 14: 13 New
    -1
    Well, they don’t want as they want. We already know that it is better not to mess with mattresses for serious matters because of their lack of maturity, which means we will either master it ourselves or cooperate with the Chinese. It will be faster and cheaper.
    P / S- What is there in the photo so the mattress flag is winding if there is no atmosphere on the moon and therefore there is no wind? winked
  • Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 16 May 2020 14: 13 New
    +6
    Unfortunately, the current Roscosmos simply has nothing to offer in such cooperation. The remnants of the Soviet backlog have ended, but Roscosmos has not been able to create anything new for 20 years, only projections and Rogozin’s posturing.
    The maximum is to enter the roles proposed by NASA, this is the production of one of their certified nodes. What you definitely need to cling to and not turn your nose.
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt 16 May 2020 15: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Engineer Shchukin
      The remnants of the Soviet backlog ended

      The remnants of the Soviet reserve have not ended, they have remained and are being used to the fullest. But some people, with their "lunar projectors", currently cannot even get to orbit on their own. They also go to the "Soviet Heritage". Where is their vaunted Apollo groundwork? And they are not. Conquerors of the moon pancake found. Galactic Rangers. laughing Tongue wagging, do not toss bags. Let's see how they get laid on May 27th.
      1. Engineer Schukin
        Engineer Schukin 16 May 2020 15: 30 New
        +5
        Quote: orionvitt
        Let's see how they get laid on May 27

        True cheers. He prays straight for a cow to die from a neighbor.
        Let's bet.
        If the astronauts on the Dragon fly to the ISS and return, will you self-absorb here for half a year?
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 16 May 2020 22: 19 New
          -1
          He prays straight for a cow to die from a neighbor.
          I'm strictly on the facts, tell me, who flies on the Russian Soyuz? That is that. It is you who are urinating on "the US successes that do not exist.
          Quote: Engineer Shchukin
          Let's bet.
          If the astronauts on the Dragon fly to the ISS and return, will you self-absorb here for half a year?

          Come on. I demand the same conditions on your part. Weak? I won't have to lose much, I've been banned three times already, because of such provocateurs as you. By the way, the nickname "engineer Shchukin" is it not you by chance who constantly asks stupid questions to Dushenov? It is clear that Dushenov is not an authority, but still. I read about another "engineer Shchukin", at Ilf and Petrov, so he was generally henpecked. laughing So bet? [
          1. Engineer Schukin
            Engineer Schukin 17 May 2020 09: 39 New
            0
            Agreed
      2. Carnifexx
        Carnifexx 16 May 2020 15: 52 New
        +1
        Can - Delta and Falcon, on the way still Vulcan, New Glenn, OmegA and SLS.
        There are backlogs on the Apollo - this is RL-10, J-2.

        Tongue wagging, do not toss bags
        Agree
        Let's see how they get laid on May 27th.
        We will see
        1. slipped
          slipped 16 May 2020 19: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: Carnifexx
          Can - Delta and Falcon, on the way still Vulcan, New Glenn, OmegA and SLS.
          There are backlogs on the Apollo - this is RL-10, J-2.


          Meanwhile, NASA acquired from Roscosmos for ~ 92 million $ a place in the next "Soyuz MS-17" that flies in the fall. In addition, for this they are obliged to deliver 800kg of cargo on their commercial ships under the Russian program for cosmonauts. laughing
          1. Carnifexx
            Carnifexx 17 May 2020 15: 57 New
            0
            And what is this talking about?
            1. slipped
              slipped 17 May 2020 16: 02 New
              0
              Quote: Carnifexx
              And what is this talking about?


              The fact that NASA is not sure about new developments in the same manned unit and is trying to play it safe so as not to remain "on the beans", that is, without astronauts on the ISS. And we, in turn, continue to make good money on this, quickly and safely delivering it to the ISS, and of course returning it from there. laughing
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 16 May 2020 14: 29 New
    +2
    we will explore the Moon with China ... however, with the current leadership of Roscosmos, progress in space exploration can hardly be expected ...
    1. slipped
      slipped 16 May 2020 21: 05 New
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      Quote: Pvi1206
      we will explore the Moon with China ... however, with the current leadership of Roscosmos, progress in space exploration can hardly be expected ...


      Contradict yourself in one sentence. lol
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 16 May 2020 15: 18 New
    +2
    Are they even about which moon? The one in heaven? Earth satellite? We on Earth cannot dig everything out. Physically. And here is the moon. Or will they drive trucks with sand and rubble to Earth? To whom? Road workers and summer residents? Well, with the road, then the scheme looms. But with summer residents there.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 16 May 2020 15: 39 New
    +1
    We must work, do so, Schaub could not do without our participation!
    And this is not a chatter about dates, but real achievements in the field of space.
    1. slipped
      slipped 16 May 2020 21: 16 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      We must work, do so, Schaub could not do without our participation!


      Kessedi (standing in the center): "Can't you see what this is?" laughing



      Quote: rocket757
      but real achievements in space.


      Yes, as much as necessary. Here's the last one - in June at the Spektr-RG astrophysical observatory we are finishing the first ultra-high resolution scanning of the celestial sphere, and the Russian ACS spectrometer on board the ExoMars-2016 project's AMC TGO showed that the seasonal increase in water vapor in the upper part of the Martian atmosphere may be much larger than previously thought by scientists, and steam may be supersaturated even in the presence of clouds. Clear? laughing
  • Courier
    Courier 16 May 2020 15: 39 New
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    There is a warming relationship with the United States.
    《The Russian case》 on interference in the US election has completely collapsed.
    Throughout the second half of 2020, Trump will begin to press everyone, Obama, Biden, former FBI members, Democratic senators.
    He will be re-elected and there will be 4 years of normal cooperation.
    In fact, for 6 years, since 2014, Russia has not received no, none at all benefits from "friendship" with China. China has done nothing for Russia.
    Russia was left without long European loans, with Chinese support for US sanctions against Russia.
    1. slipped
      slipped 17 May 2020 11: 13 New
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      Quote: Courier
      In fact, for 6 years, since 2014, Russia has not received no, none at all benefits from "friendship" with China.


      "The construction of another nuclear power plant of Russian design on a new site has been agreed. With Russia's assistance, a demonstration fast neutron reactor will be erected in China, advanced Russian developments will be involved in the Chinese lunar program" - is this "no advantage" in your opinion? laughing https://ria.ru/20180608/1522378326.html
  • Recon
    Recon 16 May 2020 16: 13 New
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    What moon is it? Che laugh then? On Earth, undeveloped resources are few? Or has the helium-3 energy-efficient fusion reactor already been created?
    1. Courier
      Courier 16 May 2020 16: 39 New
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      What car? Che laugh then? On Earth, there are few non-rolled horses?
  • Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 16 May 2020 16: 34 New
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    I’ll try to look ahead for 25-30 years. By that time, the Russian Federation had built a mining colony on the moon. And the Pendots began to cry, why again the Russians are mining, supposedly, their minerals. Something like this
  • faterdom
    faterdom 16 May 2020 17: 11 New
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    So there will be no kin? "Flight to the Moon-2".
    That is, we are offered an exchange: we let them into our Arctic, they let us into the moon? And if they like us even more - then to Mars? Something like all their deals ...
    Our long-range combatants will not be allowed to the moon anyway until the Platon terminal is built there.
  • veritas
    veritas 16 May 2020 17: 12 New
    +4
    According to him, Washington regards Russia as one of the main partners in the development of a natural satellite of the Earth, while Russia "in many respects" is already a partner of the United States, having signed the Treaty on Outer Space in 1967.

    When the United States considers someone to be partners, then in their understanding, it’s to take advantage, save, and if you can also make money on a partner. So, if something is mastered together with the United States, then only on equal terms.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 16 May 2020 18: 08 New
    -1
    laughing Where are we going, pah? wassat
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 16 May 2020 18: 57 New
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      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      laughing Where are we going, pah? wassat

      To Blah Blah Car. wink
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 16 May 2020 21: 35 New
    0
    Quote: sabakina
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    laughing Where are we going, pah? wassat

    To Blah Blah Car. wink

    Blah Blah Car. -what's this? laughing