A fraction of a second from a possible collision: F-16 Turkish Air Force crossed the course of the Greek fighter

The network published data on the incident with the means of combat aviation over the Aegean Sea. This is a situation in which the fighter aircraft of the Greek and Turkish air forces were at a risky distance from each other. This could lead to a collision.

F-16 Turkish Air Force crossed the course of the Greek fighter. The intersection of the course occurred at such a distance that the pilot of the Greek Air Force fighter saw the nozzles of an aircraft of the Turkish air force. This led to the emotional reaction of the Greek pilot, which is understandable. A hot stream emanating from the nozzle of a Turkish aircraft could affect the stability of the flight of the “enemy” with unpredictable consequences. But, as stated, in the end everything worked out.

Journalists turned to the Turkish Ministry of Defense with a request to provide recordings of this incident from the cameras of the F-16 fighter of the Turkish Air Force. So far, this data has not been provided. Although the incident was reported to have occurred in March.

As you can see, the fighters of the two countries were separated by a split second from a possible collision.

It should be noted that the air "meetings" of the fighter aircraft of the Greek and Turkish air forces are very frequent. Athens accuses Ankara of the fact that Turkish military aviation can commit hundreds of violations of Greek air borders during the year. Basically we are talking about violations of the Greek airspace over the islands in the Aegean. It washes both Greece and Turkey. In the Aegean Sea there are about 2 thousand islands, including small ones - uninhabited.

Greek Mirage-2000-5 Mk.2 and Turkish fighter:

Another "meeting":

Comments

[Victor_B]

Dangerous maneuvering.
I doubt very much, or rather, that the Turkish pilot is already from his command ogreb.
Either this is real hooliganism in the air, or a commonplace mistake.
Given that the incident with the Greek litak, it could have gotten a rocket, and the 4th war at the same time, Erdogan is now very useful.
Unfortunately, even civilian planes sometimes collide. Sometimes among themselves, and more often with the earth.
Well, warriors and emergency situations are a regularity.
Here, the Indians fall almost every month.

[rotmistr60]

or a commonplace mistake.

There is great doubt that this is a mistake. The Turkish Air Force is not only systematically violating the airspace of Greece, but also trying to provoke the Greeks to a sharp response. Most likely another provocation.

[Victor_B]

Quote: rotmistr60

trying to provoke the Greeks to a sharp response. Most likely another provocation.

What can the Turks provoke Greece by breaking their plane against the Greek.
The life and health of the Turkish pilot at such a relative speed no one guarantees.
Well, I would settle down in front, pour kerosene into the face.

[donavi49]

Depends? If he flew tail-engine into the nose of the Greek. It’s more likely that the catapult would work for him, but the Greek would have just turned the cab and not the fact that he would be able to catapult, it would work.

[Tuzik]

and who would let a plane fly under a hundred million dollars? for what?

[Oquzyurd]

“We expect Greek behavior towards neighbors”

Stating that another problem is the status of 23 islands, their non-military status, as determined by international agreements in the Aegean. MO Akar said:

“Although these islands are with non-military status, 16 of them are armed against agreements. We expect Greece to act in accordance with international law, the agreements it has signed, and good neighborly relations. ”
In Greece, they don’t talk about it and constantly complain about the Turks. The Turks are therefore angry and this will continue until the Greeks arm these islands. By the way, the Turks prepared documents in court that either the Greeks would remove weapons from 16 islands, as it is stated about the status of the islands when they are transferred to the Greeks, if not, then the Turks have the right to take these islands back. In simple terms, the Turks are preparing to return 16-23 islands to themselves if the Greeks do not remove their bases and weapons from them.

[parkello]

yes, there are often such "catch-ups". ours go into the tail of the Turks and begin to drive them away. frequent violations occur over the islands and in the northern part of Greece, close to the border of the Turkish-Greek-Bulgarian triangle, in the Dikia region. I once rested on Samo. it is an island in the Aegean Sea. so there in the air such pretzels were written out over the sea, I already thought someone would break off and launch a rocket to the enemy. Turks fly to us to train their pilots better. but they are usually quickly escorted. They are kept almost to the very border on the radar. they often complain that the Greeks are ready to use weapons. They brazenly climb here with full pendants, receive, and then complain about the bloodthirsty Greeks ... they say they don't shoot them off the sight. in the same place, in the headphones, there is a signal if they are irradiated with a locator .. so, they sometimes accompany them to the point of take-off. the news is so-so .. nothing.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: parkello

brazenly climb here with full pendants, get, and then complain about the bloodthirsty Greeks ... they say they’re not taking off their sights

On October 8, 1996, Turkish F-16 crashed in Greek airspace near the island of Chios. One of the pilots, Osman Chilekli, successfully ejected, the co-pilot, Nail Erdogan, went missing. His body was never found. After 16 years, Chilekli admitted that he was shot down by a Greek aircraft, and later the Turkish Minister of Defense also admitted that the Greek Mirage hit the Turkish F-16 with an air-to-air missile.
In 2016, Ankara prosecutors demanded Double life imprisonment for the Greek pilot Thanos Grivas, who shot down a Turkish plane, for premeditated murder, and another 12 years in prison for the loss of the Turkish car. And another 1 billion dollars in compensation. Athens, by the way, deny the fact that the rocket was launched and claim that the Turks themselves lost control of the plane and crashed during maneuvering in the air, while the Turkish Air Force was armed and invaded the Greek airspace more than one.

In April 2016, a pair of Turkish violators fighters demonstratively flew over the Acropolis of Athens



Source: https://rua.gr/news/sobmn/25900-vozdushnye-srazheniya-nad-egejskim-morem.html

[parkello]

it was so ... but they were also to blame for the death of the Greek pilot on the island of Crete. so the account is open and no one wants to be in the place of the paying one. there will be more skirmishes in the air ...

[grandfather_Kostya]

I suspect that the constant irritant for the Turks is all Greek islands in the Aegean, even about. Samos is less than one mile to the Turkish coast, and the whole sea to the Greek. How to endure?

[parkello]

yes, if you listen to them, then their islands, then the shelf next to hydrocarbons, then the pilots are completely morose and latch them mercilessly. and from the island of Samos, Turkey is clearly visible, its lights. but this is the tourist area of ​​Samos, Rhodes. Lezbos. and below still Kastelorizo ​​... and now, they "tolerate" us, terpily such sneaks right up to the snot)) my aunt lives near the Turkish land border, there the border passes along the Evros river. I caught fish there, gathered mushrooms, hunted ... wandered around our minefield. we have mined, but it is necessary that the tank would run over. and on the Turkish side, even anti-personnel mines and stretch marks were pushed into the ground (still circumventing them) three times as much. boars still found a loophole and graze in Turkey. the river is crossed at home) and from the direction of Bulgaria, the Dwans demilitarized the entire border. so ... there, too, from Soviet times. the Warsaw Pact was also buried a lot. but they had enough anti-personnel landmines to extract. so there was something left. so they have nowhere else to rock the boat, here they are over the islands and become impudent.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: parkello

. almost to the very border they are kept on the locator. they often complain that the Greeks are ready to use weapons. they brazenly climb here with full pendants, receive, and then complain about the bloodthirsty Greeks ... they say they’re not taking off their sights.

enemy warplanes fly to the Greek territory and all they get is
"beeping in headphones" due to aiming?
hmm. strange understanding of border protection. Turks this mine only provokes an escalation.

[parkello]

But what to do when bosses do not allow the use of rockets and a gun? and then if one of the pilots rips off the tower, then it can penetrate directly into the nozzle of the Turk ... just then the pilot will be sued. dragged through the courts and tribunals. Does he need it? these issues are there, From above politicians decide. so let them decide that there would be no excesses. otherwise press a key and release a couple of missiles in the pursuit of the Turks, you do not need to have a lot of intelligence. who then will be responsible for the escalation of the conflict? and this is the beeping in the headphones, is there the same signal that if you disobey and begin to maneuver, they are already in the air .. just have not yet been detached. but the missiles are already in the air .... the Turks also do not have steel testicles. to withstand throughout the air battle to the very base of the squeaking in the ears.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: parkello

But what to do when bosses do not allow the use of rockets and a gun?

I didn’t hint that these were decisions of the pilot.
the state must decide how it protects its borders.

[To be or not to be]

A common thing .... And for a long time they have been doing this over the waters of the Aegean Sea .. Two countries of the "united" NATO ..

[Ka-52]

I doubt very much, or rather, that the Turkish pilot is already from his command ogreb.
Either this is real hooliganism in the air, or a commonplace mistake.

will not rake. For the Turks with the Greeks, this has been going on for three decades. Even a couple of plane crashes were because of this

[Pete mitchell]

Viktor Petrovich, and this is what you put in to

Quote: Victor_B

even civilian planes sometimes collide. Sometimes among themselves, and more often with the earth.

there are lees to every wine?

[bober1982]

The Turkish pilot will not "scoop" anything from his command, and such actions are not erroneous actions of the Turk, and this is no hooliganism.
Each other must be kept in good shape. The elements of combat work, because of which world wars, will not begin in any way.

[babylon]

Also me news for discussion
such cases everywhere and everywhere
But this news, I think it will be more interesting))
in our city a goose in the city center crossed the road in front of a continuous ceiling of cars, which provoked three accidents, and no one knew where it came from in the big city.
So they didn’t find him to be held accountable in a frying pan,
Fell on the run poor fellow

[loki565]

Well, the site is called VO, not the yellow press)))

[babylon]

What does the yellow press have to do with it! ??
That really was the case,
And believe it or not is a higher matter
They believe that every fake is being discussed, and simple truthful information that does not humiliate anyone is immediately yellow)))

[loki565]

You should re-read the rules of the site, especially point B)))

The site is prohibited
c) Flood, comments not related to the subject of the article

[babylon]

Colonel is to blame!
I just wanted to compare the importance of the information published article

[Doliva63]

Quote: vavilon

Also me news for discussion
such cases everywhere and everywhere
But this news, I think it will be more interesting))
in our city a goose in the city center crossed the road in front of a continuous ceiling of cars, which provoked three accidents, and no one knew where it came from in the big city.
So they didn’t find him to be held accountable in a frying pan,
Fell on the run poor fellow

About a week ago I was driving along Vostochnaya Street (Joburg, if anything) in the second row. Before the pedestrian crossing, the first row suddenly began to slow down. I turn my head - I don't see pedestrians, but I also slowed down. And then I see - a duck, a drake is walking along the "zebra". He passed our 2 lanes, stopped, waited until the oncoming ones stopped, and quickly stomped on like that. For about a minute the cars were still standing - people were cleaning up their mobile phones - no one even beeped behind. That's what it means to comply with traffic rules, not like your violating goose!

[knn54]

Not the first, not the last time. The same thing at sea.
In practice, for more than a century, there has been an undeclared Greek-Turkish war.
Since the time of Mustafa Kemal Attaturk, the concept of a "national oath" or "national pact" - "misaki mi", approved by the Turkish parliament in 1923, has existed. It provides for the return under the authority of Ankara of a part of northern Greece up to Thessaloniki, Cyprus, redistribution of the maritime borders in the Aegean Sea.
There are claims to Syria, Iraq.
Erdogan with his "neo-Ottomanism" quarreled with all his neighbors,
which could lead Turkey to disaster.
By the way, according to Israeli experts .. the Greek Air Force will cope with the Turkish. Hence, Erdogan’s desire to strengthen air defense with modern systems.

[Lelek]

Quote: knn54

Erdogan with his "neo-Ottomanism" quarreled with all his neighbors,
which could lead Turkey to disaster.

The most interesting thing is that the politicians of Turkey declared Israel and the USA as their ENEMIES:

[EvilLion]

What? A5? Well, let them beat each other and deal with the end. They have non-stop there.

[rocket757]

Conflicts sometimes begin!
The question is - Who needs it, now?

[bober1982]

Quote: rocket757

The question is - Who needs it, now?

Specifically, this was necessary for the Turkish pilot, decided to show off, well, and at the same time work out air training (to consolidate skills).

[rocket757]

I wanted to "hooligan" .... this happens, but is not encouraged in any army.
The computer makes mistakes, and even a person, quite easily .... this often ends in the cemetery.
But this, in general, is understandable.
In principle, who needs to aggravate the situation?

[bober1982]

Quote: rocket757

I wanted to "hooligan" ....

This is not hooliganism, such maneuvers show their flying skills, from a position of strength.
This news brought only journalists into a state of excitement.

[rocket757]

I can’t say anything in fact, I need to look at the actual shooting, we need accurate data on the maneuver conducted .... and so on the fingers, nothing is clear.

[bober1982]

Quote: rocket757

and so on the fingers

Such maneuvers on the fingers do not perform, only with accurate calculation, and their own confidence. And, there is nothing to watch.

[rocket757]

Quote: bober1982

Quote: rocket757

and so on the fingers

Such maneuvers on the fingers do not perform, only with accurate calculation, and their own confidence. And, there is nothing to watch.

On his own self-confidence, if that ... but again, he flew "to the lapping" or in fear, the Greek pilot, his eyes are big.
Anyway, the command will appreciate the pilot's "daring" according to his merits.

[bober1982]

Quote: rocket757

or fear, a Greek pilot, has big eyes.

Journalists have big eyes of fear, not the Greek pilot.

[rocket757]

Quote: bober1982

Journalists have big eyes of fear, not the Greek pilot.

This is understandable, nothing new. The main thing is to inflate the sensation.

[Free wind]

It seems that both Greeks and Turks are both NATO countries who allow them to fight.

[Aviator_]

And in 1974, who allowed? Themselves, themselves.

[yfast]

I wonder who NATA will stand up for in this case.

[Vladimir_2U]

saw the nozzles of an airplane of the Turkish air force

Given the fact that the F-16 has one nozzle, then perhaps we are talking about the rear sOple of the Turkish pilot!
Well, or suspended missiles.

[Pvi1206]

NATO members on the brink of war among themselves ...

[Tuzik]

generally they have fun there, training almost every day, as close as possible to combat

[voyaka uh]

Usually "go to the tail".
And then the Turk "got into the nose" of the Greek.

[parkello]

and they’ve gotten used to it already, that the Greeks are always behind, on the tail ... they tried to maneuver, but it doesn’t work out. The mean Greek is already used to being behind and remains there once I was an eyewitness of overflights at high heights .. their Greeks given. 3 phantoms and 3 f-16s against 3 mirages of the Greek Air Force. and they raked to the very top. Well, the truth is that we and the Patriot were leading them ... they kept them on sight. but still, there were 3 more of them ...

[Oquzyurd]

Turkish pilots are much more experienced, fly more, and motivated than the Greeks. So don't tell tales.

[parkello]

oh yes .. of course Forgive me, storyteller ... especially about motivation

[Oquzyurd]

In the European part of NATO, only two countries have combat-ready and trained Air Force and Army in general. These are Great Britain and Turkey. The rest are so-so, average people, and some weaklings.

[parkello]

another sumer? don't be afraid, we are not going to war against Turkey. it is they who climb here. it will be especially funny when they get rid of, once again from "average, so-so" and you don’t have a sick compassionate Turkophile Jeyhun.

[Oquzyurd]

I myself am an Azerbaijani OguzTurk. What are you talking about, what kind of Turkophile are you talking about?))) Objectively, Turkey is much larger, stronger, more powerful than Greece. You do not like this, do not mean that it is not.

[parkello]

I'm talking about you as a Turkophile. because you support them. now what is it for me, I am Greek, I live in Greece and have been to Turkey often. I don’t need to write anymore off topic. I'm not interested. I’m not going to fight with you here. And to impose my point of view, too. have already written. they have written. By the way, I also visited Azerbaijan. so good luck to you man. Do not get sick and do not bathe because of any nonsense.

[Oquzyurd]

I also wish you peace and good luck. The Türks are not your enemies, you must agree and live in peace.

[grandfather_Kostya]

Another "meeting":

This is no longer just a "meeting", more like a game of tags, although not air combat yet ...

[Radical]

A fraction of a second from a possible collision: F-16 Turkish Air Force crossed the course of the Greek fighter

The Greek was given to "snot", and rightfully so - you need to study!

[Radical]

Quote: parkello

and they’ve gotten used to it already, that the Greeks are always behind, on the tail ... they tried to maneuver, but it doesn’t work out. The mean Greek is already used to being behind and remains there once I was an eyewitness of overflights at high heights .. their Greeks given. 3 phantoms and 3 f-16s against 3 mirages of the Greek Air Force. and they raked to the very top. Well, the truth is that we and the Patriot were leading them ... they kept them on sight. but still, there were 3 more of them ...

I would like to hear from you more literally, but I understand - WRC, and all that ....

[no better place for]

There is a small block in the water far from Greece and a couple of kilometers from Turkey. The plane flew over it, and all the Greeks scream about violating the border. And there is such a trifle full. At one time, these islands were presented to them under the ruins of Turkey, now they point to them and claim to be the entire Aegean. But in the end they will remain without islands. They hope for the support of the EU, their name is USA. But in the end they will be matrified again

[dinos]

These blocks, as you say, have the following area:
Chios island - 842 sq. km. Km
Rhodes island - 1401 sq. m. Km
Lesbos Island - 1633 sq. km. Km
The airspace of these islands was violated by the Turkish Air Force more than 2020 times in 250. There have never been these provocative violations over the islands since 1974 when, in an air battle, one Greek fighter (F-5A) shot down two Turkish F-102s in the area Limnos Islands. About half a century has passed - apparently the lesson of the Turks was forgotten.

[no better place for]

In addition to them, there is a bunch of small spans over which the Greeks also consider a violation