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Pipes for SP-2 began to be transferred to the Akademik Chersky ship in Germany: data confirmed

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It became known that the Akademik Chersky pipe-laying vessel arrived at one of the German ports. According to the latest information, the vessel, which could complete the implementation of the Nord Stream-2 project, is located in the port of Mukran. It overcame a long way, leaving the port of Nakhodka and making an almost round-the-world "journey" in order to eventually arrive in the Baltic.


Recall that at the end of December, the pipelayers of the Swiss company Allseas left the area of ​​construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. This happened after the American congressmen sent a letter with threats in the form of sanctions. The construction of the gas pipeline, which many companies in the world are investing in, including Shell, OMV and a number of others, had to be suspended at a time when less than 150 km of the offshore section remained to be completed.

It was then that they started talking about the possibility of redirecting the ship "Akademik Chersky" to the Baltic.

For some time this ship was in Kaliningrad, then headed for the north of Germany.

A marine tracking site indicates the arrival of a Russian company’s ship in Mukran.

Pipes for SP-2 began to be transferred to the Akademik Chersky ship in Germany: data confirmed


Meanwhile, in Germany, data on activity in pipe storage areas were confirmed. In particular, the welded pipes “began to move” to “Academician Chersky”. Also, the appearance in the construction zone "SP-2" of the Russian auxiliary vessel "Fortuna" was noted. This is a pipe-laying barge, which can also be involved in completing the construction of the gas pipeline.

Experts believe that if Academician Chersky and Fortuna begin work in the near future, the gas pipeline could be completed in the fall.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 15 May 2020 06: 15 New
    -42
    У Mr. Fix Gazprom had a backup plan! A dual feeling, and it’s good that the “partners” have wiped their nose and I don’t see much sense for the people of Russia in this gas pipeline.
    1. Hagen
      Hagen 15 May 2020 06: 59 New
      41
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      I don’t see much sense for the people of Russia in this gas pipeline.

      The people of Russia receive the main profit from the total volume of gas produced in the form of mineral extraction tax and other deductions in the production process. Additional transportation routes are important for Gazprom to simplify work with transit countries. Those volumes that will go to SP-2 will be withdrawn from the volumes of UkrGTS or Yamal-Europe through Poland (the same partner). There is a field for maneuver. Moreover, for transit through SP-2 Garzprom will pay for itself.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 15 May 2020 07: 15 New
        -33
        Quote: Hagen
        The people of Russia receive the main profit
        Exactly the people of Russia profit? And what is this profit?
        https://buhguru.com/spravka-info/tablitsa-so-stavkami-ndpi-v-2020-godu.html
        Natural combustible gas produced at new offshore fields located at 50 percent or more of its area: 1,3%.
        The largest mineral extraction tax rate I found for gas, about 0%, appears to be somehow so-so profit, even if it went to the needs of not only the people, but at least the state.
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 15 May 2020 08: 15 New
          24
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Exactly the people of Russia profit? And what is this profit?

          In 2019, Gazprom deducted taxes to the budget of about 2,7 trillion rubles (out of about 20 trillion rubles of total revenues).
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 15 May 2020 08: 33 New
            +6
            Pipes for SP-2 began to be transferred to the Akademik Chersky ship in Germany: data confirmed

            I can imagine how many anti-Russian screams are now spreading around the world from the side of the pro-American Foreign Ministry of NATO Poland! laughing
            And I don’t even take Ukraine into account! tongue
            Now, without any on-duty anti-Russian speech — an attack against the Russian Federation and Germany — Stoltenberg will definitely not do it either! repeat
            1. Alexga
              Alexga 15 May 2020 09: 53 New
              +3
              Pipes for SP-2 began to be transferred to the Akademik Chersky ship in Germany: data confirmed

              I wanted this construction to be completed, so far you can’t talk about loading as much as you need, so much will be pumped. The question is different. I remember that when Denmark gave permission for the continuation of work to a Swiss ship, and a Russian will work here, this is not the same thing. The second point Sweden and Denmark gave permission for the construction of the Polish pipeline, and they will intersect in the zone of responsibility of Denmark. There may also be an ambush. But, maybe so, this does not mean that it will be so. Time will tell.
              1. The comment was deleted.
                1. Alexga
                  Alexga 15 May 2020 10: 50 New
                  0
                  What to argue? Time will tell very soon. It’s simple that the Americans started a game with SP-2 for good reason
                  1. Alexga
                    Alexga 15 May 2020 19: 08 New
                    0
                    Well, here's the answer: "The US threatened Gazprom with the imposition of sanctions for the completion of Nord Stream-2"
                    Today, 17: 09
            2. orionvitt
              orionvitt 15 May 2020 12: 54 New
              +2
              Quote: Tatiana
              without any on-duty anti-Russian speech-an attack against the Russian Federation

              Anti-Russian attacks from the west and their hangers-on like Ukraine, or Poland, have long been a mournful routine. The main thing is not to relax.
            3. Lelek
              Lelek 15 May 2020 14: 34 New
              +2
              Quote: Tatiana
              Now, without any on-duty anti-Russian speech — an attack against the Russian Federation and Germany — Stoltenberg will definitely not do it either!

              hi
              What is Germany? The same vassal under the boot of the United States, like Poland, and former Ukraine, and the rest of "Europe." The use of SP-1 and SP-2 (in the future) was 50% confirmed, crowed about the occupation by America, threatened to remove US bases, and so what? Nothing - air shake. Maybe something will change after the elections in "Europe", but hopes for the arrival of "decisive and pragmatic" leaders of the countries are at least a minimum.
          2. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 15 May 2020 08: 42 New
            -14
            Taxes are good, but taxes are just part of the profit and not a big one, but 50 percent. Gazprom does not belong to Russia. I could be wrong, but the value added tax for deliveries abroad is returned to the supplier. It turns out that Gazprom’s taxes were taken from the Russian economy and Russian citizens.
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 15 May 2020 11: 36 New
              +9
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Taxes are good, only taxes are just part of the profit and not big

              The state receives mineral extraction tax and other taxes and excise taxes from the mining from mining. In addition, it receives dividends from the profits of the enterprise in proportion to the block of shares. In general, open the financial report of Gazprom https://www.gazprom.ru/investors/disclosure/reports/2019/ and satisfy all your thirst for knowledge.
            2. Kochegarkin
              Kochegarkin 15 May 2020 11: 44 New
              0
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              I could be wrong, but the value added tax for deliveries abroad is returned to the supplier

              You are mistaken, for:

              Value Added Tax (VAT) is an indirect tax on the surplus (added) value arising in the process of creating goods, works, services. The tax is paid as the sale of manufactured products (performance of work, rendering of services) or receipt of advance payment from the buyer.


              VAT is not present in export ...

              The President of Russia has signed a law on the transition of Russia to the payment of indirect taxes "according to the country of destination." The law provides that if oil or gas is exported to the countries of the Common Economic Space (Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine), then VAT will be charged at a zero rate, that is, it is not collected at all. The tax is levied in the exporting country. A similar procedure has long been valid in relation to distant foreign countries, but has not been applied to our closest neighbors.
              Russian Newspaper - Federal Issue No. 0 (3556)


              and was not present for a long time ...
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 15 May 2020 11: 54 New
                -5
                Thank you, in general, Gazprom collects taxes to the treasury mainly from the Russian economy and Russian citizens, as expected.
                1. CSKA
                  CSKA 15 May 2020 14: 37 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Thank you, in general, Gazprom collects taxes to the treasury mainly from the Russian economy and Russian citizens, as expected.

                  Or bother reading the financial statements?
                  1. Vladimir_2U
                    Vladimir_2U 15 May 2020 15: 23 New
                    -3
                    https://www.gazprom.ru/f/posts/77/885487/consolidated-fs-gazprom-2019-ru.pdf
                    45 page.
                    Taxes included in cost for 2019 1 303 732 million p.
                    for 2018 1 395 461 million rubles.
                    Separately indicated: The amount of mineral extraction tax included in the article “Taxes Included in Cost", Amounted to 1 million rubles. and 022 547 1 million rubles. for 072 and 197, respectively
                    Found a net profit of 616 billion and income tax of 324 billion.
                    Yes, that’s about 2,7 billion in taxes and about 19 billion in government revenue.
          3. Dmitry V.
            Dmitry V. 15 May 2020 10: 53 New
            -1
            Quote: Hagen
            In 2019, Gazprom deducted taxes to the budget of about 2,7 trillion rubles (out of about 20 trillion rubles of total revenues).


            Did the tax burden amount to 13,5%? Great!
            This is at 13.5% they and MET and income tax managed to shove? Smart optimizers, if your numbers are correct ...
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 15 May 2020 11: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
              Smart optimizers, if your numbers are correct ...

              The numbers are not mine, they are from the reports. Add here the deductions from the LV (there are twice as many), other enterprises in the oil and gas sector, and this will be about 40% of the Budget. What surprises you so much?
      2. WIKI
        WIKI 15 May 2020 08: 55 New
        -5
        Quote: Hagen
        Moreover, for transit through SP-2 Garzprom will pay for itself.

        "The length of the pipeline for the Russian section is 118 km, for the Finnish 374 km, for the Swedish 510 km, for the Danish 147 km, and for the German section 85 km" Do not hold them for suckers.
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 15 May 2020 11: 26 New
          +4
          Quote: WIKI
          The length of the pipeline for the Russian section is 118 km, for the Finnish 374 km, for the Swedish 510 km, for the Danish 147 km, and for the German section 85 km “Do not hold them for suckers.

          Bring their transit contracts. These sites are in the economic zone in which the construction of transport facilities is allowed, but these are not territorial waters. There is something to refute?
          1. WIKI
            WIKI 15 May 2020 12: 33 New
            -4
            Quote: Hagen
            There is something to refute?

            “The transport tariff for Nord Stream-2 is $ 2,1 per thousand cubic meters per 100 kilometers. The current tariff for transit through Ukraine for Gazprom is now $ 2,5. That is, transit through Ukraine is 20 percent more expensive than on the "Nord Stream" -A. Miller.
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 15 May 2020 13: 15 New
              +3
              Quote: WIKI
              "The transport tariff for Nord Stream-2 is $ 2,1 per thousand cubic meters per 100 kilometers. The current tariff for transit through Ukraine for Gazprom is now $ 2,5.

              Now put them in your pockets. Who will Gazprom pay? He will pay Nord Stream 2 AG. Who says NS2AG is going to pay Finns to Swedes and Danes? Miller cited the difference in tariffs as an economic benefit for the end user. But this does not speak about the address of the recipients of money from this tariff.
              1. WIKI
                WIKI 15 May 2020 13: 19 New
                -5
                Quote: Hagen
                Who says NS2AG is going to pay Finns to Swedes and Danes?

                A. Miller.
                1. Hagen
                  Hagen 15 May 2020 14: 40 New
                  +4
                  Quote: WIKI
                  A. Miller.

                  And for what, did not say?
    2. Svetlana
      Svetlana 15 May 2020 07: 27 New
      20
      Independence from other people's decisions, this is the main point in this whole story. We should depend only on ourselves.
      The man said, the man did. They said build-build.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 15 May 2020 07: 28 New
        -13
        Quote: Svetlana
        Independence from other people's decisions is the main point in this story
        If this is me, then I’ll duplicate:
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        A dual feeling, and it’s good that the nose was wiped off by the “partners”

        Naturlich! )))
        1. Svetlana
          Svetlana 15 May 2020 07: 31 New
          -2
          Hmm .. really drinks drinks
      2. Aleks2048
        Aleks2048 15 May 2020 08: 08 New
        0
        The man said, the man did.

        And said to mother-in-law means to mother-in-law? laughing
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 15 May 2020 10: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: Svetlana
        They said build-build.

        Do not jinx it. Not yet built.
      4. T.Henks
        T.Henks 15 May 2020 10: 34 New
        -2
        Early to wave cowards. In December, the young lad's bonnets were thrown with a bang - where are they, three billion? The same Swiss gathered to pull the pipe to Poland, which were scolded on Russia. No fines, no lawsuits, nothing! All forgiven. Did Gazprom give technical approval for crossing the Sevpotok1i2 highway or not? Silence. The enemies in Gazprom could have agreed. For them, Poland is nicer.
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 15 May 2020 11: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: T.Henks
          The same Swiss gathered to pull the pipe to Poland, which were scolded on Russia. No fines, no lawsuits, nothing! All forgiven. Did Gazprom give technical approval for crossing the Sevpotok1i2 highway or not? Silence. The enemies in Gazprom could have agreed. For them, Poland is nicer.

          For such statements, you must know the terms of the contract. Did you see him? I don’t think so. How harmful is the Baltic Pipe to us? I think it’s not at all harmful. Those 5 Gm that the Poles will take from Denmark, they will take from Germany. That, in turn, will take more gas from Gazprom or Novatek for the same volume. But working with the Germans today is more profitable than reckless Poles. We will not lose anything from this, but the Poles will lose the opportunity to twist our hands. At the same time, we will get the opportunity to slice the Poles from our market without regard to their interest in them, as in the transit and consumer of our gas. There is such a tangle of relations that it is difficult to unambiguously evaluate all their facets. The general picture of relations with any Poland or even Ukraine cannot be analyzed by articles on the Internet. There are many undercurrents and nuances.
      5. Kisa
        Kisa 15 May 2020 16: 47 New
        0
        Sergey, yes, who argues that. the overwhelming majority both in our country and in the world are sure that the pipe will be brought to the Germans. here everyone is interested in financial expediency in our changing times, and when they begin to compare with BAM the construction of the century, too, nevertheless, some thoughts on this topic take place
    3. Roman123567
      Roman123567 15 May 2020 08: 50 New
      -7
      "nose wiped off" after they themselves had cooled from the tub .. It is enough to recall how we breathed before the new year ..
      And at the expense of the people I agree completely .. Although in any case, the loss-making is now somehow necessary to cover ..
  2. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 15 May 2020 06: 24 New
    +9
    Well, where are the prowlers? Cried and whined that SP-2 would not be completed wassat
    "The cast is removed ... The client leaves, I will kill him" (c)
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 15 May 2020 06: 31 New
      -7
      Well, I’m not an all-round fan ... But what, have you already completed? Ek, you are a “gop” screaming much ... So for those like you yesterday they figured out that in the current realities, even from the completed SP2 there will be much less sense than they claimed when it was just laid.
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 15 May 2020 06: 34 New
        +5
        You doubt that they will finish building? How many percent of the extension remains to be completed?
        Two months ago, they doubted that they would finish building? Will the current realities be different in six months or a year? laughing wassat
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 15 May 2020 06: 42 New
          -13
          Quote: Tank jacket
          You doubt that they will finish building? How many percent remains of the extension left to finish?

          What's the use? For six years Ukraine has been "freezing without gas," but it will never freeze. The contract was concluded a long time ago, and the pipe has not yet been completed, with the chopped clogged bottom at the bottom.
        2. Roman123567
          Roman123567 15 May 2020 08: 56 New
          -10
          The fact that once they finish building - just no one doubted .. Sooner or later, even cancer on the mountain will learn to whistle .. So it's useless to refer to it ..

          But at the expense of interest, and comparison with what was a couple of months ago .. everything is just indicative here ..
      2. Roman123567
        Roman123567 15 May 2020 08: 54 New
        -7
        In December they also settled down .. that they remove the Gypsum ... The client leaves ..
        And then they silently took the loot to Bandera, and said that it was a great deal ..
      3. Olgovich
        Olgovich 15 May 2020 08: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        what in current the realities, even from the completed SP2, will be much less useful than they claimed when it was only laid.

        realities end with the "current"?

        Other, there will be no more?

        the world has stopped forever, does not work, the population is not growing?

        everything works and grows and without gas, it won’t move anywhere!
    2. 210ox
      210ox 15 May 2020 06: 46 New
      0
      Is the gas pipeline completed? Then when we finish building, then we’ll say- "Well, where are all the prowlers? Cried and ached that the SP-2 would not be completed wassat
      "The cast is being removed ... The client is leaving, I will kill him" (c)
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 15 May 2020 06: 57 New
        +4
        Romance "Doubt"?
        1. 210ox
          210ox 15 May 2020 12: 41 New
          -1
          You sing an ode or romance. Read today's news report and the reaction of Gazprom. It is clear that this pipeline is needed for the future. However, according to today's decisions of the German regulator on not providing a gas pipeline for gas from SP2, it turns out that the gas pipeline can be completed, but the gas will not go through it. In any case, in the coming year.
          1. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 15 May 2020 13: 39 New
            +2
            Well, the Crimean bridge today is underloaded due to the coronovirus, so what was it not necessary to build? Look 1-5-10 years forward ...
            1. T.Henks
              T.Henks 15 May 2020 16: 00 New
              0
              Crimea belongs to Russia. And the bridge inside the Russian highway. The fare will still have time to appoint a fee. M-4 Don is also not free. And Losevo between two paid sites will always be found.
    3. alavrin
      alavrin 15 May 2020 06: 57 New
      +5
      Let them finish it. For me, there’s less hype and more work. To pose only a fait accompli: like with an atomic bomb, a flight of a satellite or Yuri Gagarin.
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 15 May 2020 07: 09 New
        +1
        "Hype" is an information war ... Who are you fighting for? About Gagarin Zakharova amers said that they did not mention April 12? Well, there was such a Yuri Gagarin, the first astronaut ...
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 15 May 2020 07: 13 New
          -11
          Yes, stop fighting already! Look around simply, otherwise all of you enemies and intrigues seem to be! And call a spade a spade, and actions in the present tense.
          1. Tank jacket
            Tank jacket 15 May 2020 07: 41 New
            +3
            What is the name of a person who lives only in the present and does not look back at the past and does not plan for the future? wassat
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 15 May 2020 08: 41 New
              -5
              Realist. Didn't you know?
              And there are other concepts but towards a not clear future:
              Dreamer.
              Dreamer.
              Idealist.
              Manilov ...
              As you can see, there are more of them. Apparently, there are different dreams.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 15 May 2020 08: 54 New
                +1
                Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                Realist

                Rather, a patient in a psychiatric clinic.
                Amnesia and deregulatory syndrome are not peculiar to realists.
            2. Roman123567
              Roman123567 15 May 2020 08: 59 New
              -6
              You live only in the past victories of Gagarin, and future completions of SP-2
              And what’s going on now - you don’t see ..
              What do you call yourself ??)
            3. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 15 May 2020 11: 20 New
              +1
              Quote: Tank jacket
              What is the name of a person who lives only in the present and does not look back at the past and does not plan for the future?

              Not a completely normal person in mental terms !!! wassat A life-burner ... Butterfly is a one-day-old, lives one day ... And if you put it in Russian, then they will be banned !!!
              1. Tank jacket
                Tank jacket 15 May 2020 14: 11 New
                +4
                Or to paraphrase: "live today, consume, do not think about anything, die young" wassat
        2. Roman123567
          Roman123567 15 May 2020 08: 58 New
          -9
          Navalny has already said everything about Zakharova the other day ..
          After that, referring to this whore is a sign of bad tone ..
          Although I respected her before ..
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 15 May 2020 09: 04 New
            11
            Quote: Roman123567
            Navalny has already said everything about Zakharova the other day ..
            After that, referring to this whore is a sign of bad tone ..

            laughing
            Rather, a sign of a bad tone refers to Navalny.
            1. Roman123567
              Roman123567 15 May 2020 09: 40 New
              -5
              You can not refer to Navalny, but just look at the blizzard that Masha carried ..
              And it will become clear which of them has a bad tone ..))
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 15 May 2020 10: 31 New
                +2
                Quote: Roman123567
                You can not refer to Navalny, but just look at the blizzard that Masha carried ..

                "Blizzard"? So what did she say?
                And then I'm not an "oppositionist", if I hear her, it is only by accident.
                laughing
                She, of course, is somewhat tongue-tied, but definitely did not notice the blizzards.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 15 May 2020 10: 48 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Spade
                  but he didn’t notice the blizzards.

                  And the fact that the Russians have nothing to do with a mortgage abroad is not a blast from Masha?
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 15 May 2020 11: 26 New
                    +3
                    Quote: mordvin xnumx

                    And the fact that the Russians have nothing to do with a mortgage abroad is not a blast from Masha?

                    Ssylochku.
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                    2. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 15 May 2020 11: 36 New
                      -2
                      Quote: Spade
                      Ssylochku.

                      I can’t stick it in.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 15 May 2020 11: 47 New
                        +5
                        Honestly, I do not see "blizzards" here.
                        A lot of money, go to the Canaries. Little money on a city beach.
                        And going abroad with an empty pocket, getting into an unpleasant situation there and yelling "the state must pull me out" is somewhat ... strange.
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 15 May 2020 11: 55 New
                        -4
                        Quote: Spade
                        Honestly, I do not see "blizzards" here.

                        It's a pity. What difference does it make, what kind of shishi does a person travel? This lady herself travels the world with taxpayers' money, although the benefits of the Foreign Ministry are only to disperse their entire office. And now, to make life easier for them, she needs to be either rich or with connections traveling abroad. She will pull out these, and even then through a stump deck.
                      3. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 15 May 2020 15: 32 New
                        +3
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        What difference does it make, what kind of shishi does a person travel?

                        No. And I don’t.
                        But when the state is forced to pay for the traveler .... This is unacceptable.
                      4. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 15 May 2020 19: 27 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Spade
                        But when the state is forced to pay for the traveler .... This is unacceptable.

                        The state itself screwed up, releasing tourists into an epidemic.
                        And when the refugees were taken out from Syria, what was it, help, or so, decided to promote?
        3. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 15 May 2020 10: 34 New
          +6
          Quote: Roman123567
          look at the blizzard that Masha carried ..

          And? request Here some Romka-freshwater snowstorm has found, and nothing - the resource is not falling off. laughing
    4. zwlad
      zwlad 15 May 2020 13: 30 New
      +2
      have fun. Bulk type authority chtol?
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 15 May 2020 06: 24 New
    +9
    "Academician Chersky" - a successful voyage. And to some leaders of the Gazprom Industrial Foresight. To put it mildly..
    1. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 15 May 2020 06: 35 New
      0
      Yesterday on the site I was peeping ... "Academician Chersky" while at the pier in Mukran .... hi
    2. 210ox
      210ox 15 May 2020 06: 48 New
      -1
      hi Your comment says ALL.
      1. Vadim Zhivov
        Vadim Zhivov 15 May 2020 07: 27 New
        +9
        Let me ask you what ALL is? I stood on the roadstead, now at the berth, work is going on ... Everything is quietly peaceful without fuss and super publicity .... hi
  • Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 15 May 2020 06: 30 New
    +3
    The moral of that fable is that dealing with Western "partners" is very unprofitable, because in words they are honest-white-fluffy, and when it comes to their interests and babos, then read the laws, treaties and honor yes request Is he like that, capitalism? lol
    As it is hi
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 15 May 2020 10: 16 New
      +2
      Thus, our government has the full moral right to deceive foreign partners. So then not to be hysterical that we were betrayed or deceived .. This is big business and big politics .. Someone ...
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 15 May 2020 06: 37 New
    -2
    Build for centuries!
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 May 2020 07: 02 New
    19
    You read some comments and wonder. The construction was interrupted due to the threat of sanctions to European companies - badly, because Gazprom didn’t take everything into account. Gathered to finish construction - again bad, because It turns out that the pipe does not justify itself in the current conditions and it is not known whether it will be completed. You really, yes, relating themselves to the "opposition" decide what is really good for you personally?
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 15 May 2020 07: 49 New
      +1
      hi Just like Baba Yaga ... Always ...
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 15 May 2020 08: 26 New
      +8
      Quote: rotmistr60
      You read some comments and wonder

      There is such a category - everything is bad with us, everything is fine with them !!! And no matter what happens in real life. Chersky was driven around all possible “traps”, and even did not enter the Suez Canal, since there was also Gibraltar ... in which the naughty Saxons were detained, it was the case, Iranian tankers under a far-fetched pretext. Even our ships escorted. Is that just that?
      But many here are right. It’s not worth it to “make noise” ... we’ll finish it quietly, plug it in, it will work ... We’ll turn off unnecessary flows ... About the position of Germany it will become clear ...
      Russia, when solving SERIOUS tasks, never fussed. So in this case it is not necessary ...
    3. Roman123567
      Roman123567 15 May 2020 09: 07 New
      -7
      Well, you yourself decided to build a house for yourself .. I took loans, bought material, hired workers ..
      In order to move out from my mother-in-law as soon as possible, with whom I had long since said good-bye ..
      According to your project, everything was built, and the foundation gave way ..
      Time goes on, losses are not covered, workers scratch their turnips until you figure out how to fix it .. I also had to buy a fur coat to let it live for the winter ..
      Is this good and bad ?? Without reference to any opposition ?? Would he praise himself for this ??

      No, well, of course .. a sidekick with an excavator is already riding, with which you can raise the house, and slip a patch under the foundation .. So, you’ll notice a housewarming, sooner or later ..
      But the good is somehow less ..
      Yes, and with regards to "does not justify" .. And why did you decide that the pipe justifies itself ??
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 15 May 2020 10: 21 New
        +2
        If there’s a sidekick with an excavator, then the problem with the mother-in-law can be easily solved .. And on the fur coat, you can save ...)
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 15 May 2020 07: 04 New
    +6
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Tank jacket
    You doubt that they will finish building? How many percent remains of the extension left to finish?

    What's the use? For six years Ukraine has been "freezing without gas," but it will never freeze. The contract was concluded a long time ago, and the pipe has not yet been completed, with the chopped clogged bottom at the bottom.

    Did the Academician come to look at the chopik pipe lying at the bottom and go fishing? And he loads the pipe for scrap wassat
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 15 May 2020 07: 17 New
      -12
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Did the Academician come to look at the chopik pipe lying at the bottom and go fishing?

      Late, he came to go fishing. The whole herring - bye bye, into Ukraine sailed away, through the efforts of striped partners. request
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 15 May 2020 11: 48 New
        0
        pumping volume is reduced from year to year
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 15 May 2020 12: 04 New
          -3
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          pumping volume is reduced from year to year

          And the scream was six months ago, about the fact that Ukraine can take the pipe into scrap metal. Yes, we will reduce even more, the fee is fixed.
          Gazprom daily pays about $ 6 million to the operator of the Ukrainian gas transmission system through Naftogaz Ukrainy, and uses the gas transmission system for a maximum of $ 1,5 million. Based on the volume of 178 million cubic meters per day, transit is evenly distributed throughout the year, which is enough strange, since the supplier usually varies the volume of transit depending on the needs for certain periods (months, quarters ...). At the same time, Sergey Makogon specified that Gazprom would not be able to compensate for the “overpayment” by exceeding the transit of 178 million cubic meters on other days of the year: “Everything extra for a fee”.
          Read more: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2020/01/05/gazprom-platit-za-ukrainskiy-tranzit-v-4-raza-bolshe-chem-podaet-v-es
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 15 May 2020 13: 04 New
            +1
            it will not be profitable to maintain the pipe in 2 years and it will go to metal, that's right
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 15 May 2020 13: 08 New
              -4
              Quote: Nastia Makarova
              it will not be profitable to maintain the pipe in 2 years and it will go to metal, that's right

              Every year, December 31, my friends and I go to the bathhouse ... crying
              1. Nastia makarova
                Nastia makarova 15 May 2020 14: 32 New
                +1
                go, so you are not up to date
    2. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 15 May 2020 07: 30 New
      +2
      Right !!! All thought so !!! laughing good drinks
    3. Ros 56
      Ros 56 15 May 2020 08: 25 New
      +1
      Chopik will give you something, you’ll need it suddenly.
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 15 May 2020 07: 26 New
    -3
    Build and put into action! Shock construction - shock pace!
  • askort154
    askort154 15 May 2020 07: 53 New
    +5
    The construction of the Druzhba, SP-1, and Bulgarian Stream oil pipelines was constantly staked with Anglo-Saxon wheels. Against the construction of SP-2, the United States organized a whole massacre, drawing Poland, Ukraine, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, etc. into it.
    This is an occasion to ponder those who believe that Russia is building the SP-2 in vain. In addition to economic, it has great political significance for Russia, not only in the EU, but also in the USA. Therefore, the United States goes to great lengths so that it does not exist.
    But it’s already obvious that they lost. It was not possible to stop the sanctions and the information war, and to unleash the military-terrorist conflict in Europe, could not be resolved.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 May 2020 08: 23 New
    +1
    Here the Poles and Banderlogs the zrada comes, and their masters too will wither away.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 15 May 2020 08: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Ros 56
      Here the Poles and Banderlogs the zrada comes, and their masters too will wither away.

      Starting January 1, 2020, Gazprom significantly reduced gas supplies through Ukraine to Europe. However, the company pays for transit based on contractual obligations, which are now four times higher than actual deliveries.
    2. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 15 May 2020 08: 46 New
      -2
      the mulcher rolled the galloping flock, by the very tomatoes.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 15 May 2020 08: 35 New
    -2
    Pipes for SP-2 began to be transferred to the Akademik Chersky ship in Germany: data confirmed

    These are precisely the headings and articles that awaken the irony. 26 days in the mode of a given performance and Chersky calmly, without fuss, will complete the construction of SP-2 ... And here, almost a summary of Sovinformburo. This project does not have enormous strategic significance for Russia. DOES NOT HAVE !!! Even though you get up on the heels ... Gazprom is not the property of the people, as it is presented. This is a source of enrichment for a narrow circle of shareholders:

    This is only why construction goes on “in spite of” and “contrary to”. For example, the projects "SSJ-100", "MS-21" or the same "Long-range" TVS-2DTS "Baikal" does not receive proper promotion ... belay
    And the construction of a conduit for supplying the Crimea with fresh water is ... can you tell me where?
    BUT!!!
    The pipes are loaded on Chersky now.
    Germany needs gas like air.
    If you pull up a bit more, -
    By the fall, the "stream" will be completed.
    Here are not toys, everything will be cool:
    The prices indicate "Eurocurrency" ...
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 15 May 2020 08: 46 New
      -2
      Well, that alive so couch analysts land sharply? You can’t do that! They will either tear off the roof from decompression or tear the bottom! They are also ready at BAM to create a squad from their sofas and move out of schedule.
      True, the final route is not known to them themselves ...
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 15 May 2020 09: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: ROSS 42
      These are precisely the headings and articles that awaken the irony. 26 days in the mode of a given performance and Chersky calmly, without fuss, will complete the construction of SP-2 ...

      Do you have mourning?
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 15 May 2020 08: 36 New
    +3
    ZRAADA STEALED .. AND SIDNESSED ... "Academician Chersky" takes pipes for the "Nord Stream-2" in the German port of Mukran.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 15 May 2020 09: 25 New
    0
    Logically, the Baltic is now the quietest time ... in terms of weather conditions.
  • Incompetent
    Incompetent 15 May 2020 09: 29 New
    -1
    So wait, but what about the infa that Chersky will need to be finalized with a dynamic positioning system with thrusters, and without them he cannot start working according to the rules of Denmark?
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 15 May 2020 10: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Incompetent
      Chersky will need to refine the dynamic positioning system with thrusters

      Chersky has it, Fortune doesn't.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 15 May 2020 09: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Realist. Didn't you know?
    And there are other concepts but towards a not clear future:
    Dreamer.
    Dreamer.
    Idealist.
    Manilov ...
    As you can see, there are more of them. Apparently, there are different dreams.

    Realist? The Crimean bridge is completed, the Turkish stream and the Power of Siberia too. Enjoy wassat We will call you when the SP-2 is completed. wassat Left early, sleep peacefully ...
  • cniza
    cniza 15 May 2020 09: 43 New
    +3
    Pipes for SP-2 began to be transferred to the Akademik Chersky ship in Germany: data confirmed


    And who were doubts?
  • Guards turn
    Guards turn 15 May 2020 10: 01 New
    +3
    ZRADA !!!))))))) The German concern Uniper allocated 2 million euros to finance the Nord Stream-700. To finance the very pipeline, which "Europe does not need" and which "will never be completed"
    1. New
      New Year day 15 May 2020 11: 57 New
      -2
      Quote: Guards turn
      ZRADA !!!))))))) The German concern Uniper allocated 2 million euros to finance the Nord Stream-700. To finance the very pipeline, which "Europe does not need" and which "will never be completed"

      Hail! BERLIN, May 15. / TASS /. The Federal Network Agency of Germany has assisted Nord Stream 2 AG in removing the Nord Stream-2 project from the rules of the updated EU Gas Directive. This was reported in a regulator’s decision published on Friday: "College number seven on May 15 rejected Nord Stream 2 AG's request to exempt part of Nord Stream-2, which runs in German territorial waters, from regulation."
      Of course you can sue, but ....
      1. Guards turn
        Guards turn 15 May 2020 14: 33 New
        +1
        Yesterday Nesalezhny screamed that the Saudis were about to flood Russia with oil, and today the Saudis tripled taxes and cut production by 1 million over (!) The agreement with OPEC

        CE EUROPEICI burn out by farms
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 15 May 2020 10: 31 New
    0
    We follow every movement of this ship ...
  • Junior Private
    Junior Private 15 May 2020 11: 42 New
    0
    Quote: ROSS 42
    This project does not have enormous strategic significance for Russia. DOES NOT HAVE !!!

    It just has strategic importance. And more importantly, it’s political.
    It is not known how the whistle with the viral crisis will end, but it will go around for a long time. And gas prices for movement in European economies will play an important role - SP-2, oh, as needed. And, one might even say, no alternative. And SP-1, in spite of all the democratic nastiness, has taken root well and is safely pumping volumes above (!) The design capacity. SP-2 to be!
  • anfreezer
    anfreezer 15 May 2020 11: 57 New
    0
    The German government refused the project operator to withdraw from the EU gas directive ... That means the pipe will be only half loaded .. We give them gas, and they put us in the wheel ... With such persistence, Gazprom pulls this project, and load what will be? All other branches do not work for him in full ... The pipeline, as an end in itself, is a kind of "thing in itself"
    1. zwlad
      zwlad 15 May 2020 14: 05 New
      0
      it will be half right now. and after 5 years when the contract with the outskirts ends, it will be possible to say that that pipe has completely rusted. you can not swing otherwise broads. and all through sp-2 will be allowed. (as an option of course)
  • iouris
    iouris 15 May 2020 12: 48 New
    +1
    Pipes roll or drag?
    The cross-sectional area of ​​the pipe could be halved (optimized).
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 15 May 2020 13: 04 New
      -2
      Quote: iouris
      Pipes roll or drag?

      We drag round round, and square roll.
  • dgonni
    dgonni 15 May 2020 17: 32 New
    -2
    Meanwhile, the federal network agency refused to extend the release of Nord Stream-2 from the EU Gas Directive. Since last time Merkel handed out such a decision on parole of the GDP, saying that by May of this year it will work. What essno is not in sight. And we divide the supply volumes in half.
    There is still no permission from the Danes as well as nothing is heard about the application for the continuation of the construction of the stream by the academician and fortune.
    So it remains only to complete for the sake of prestige. They say we ourselves can.
  • Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 15 May 2020 19: 28 New
    +3
    Quote: T.Henks
    Crimea belongs to Russia. And the bridge inside the Russian highway. The fare will still have time to appoint a fee. M-4 Don is also not free. And Losevo between two paid sites will always be found.

    You do not like the Crimean bridge?