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Why American opponents of Nord Stream-2 will lose and the pipeline will be completed: reasons

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As you know, previously imposed sanctions and the threat of imposing such sanctions against companies involved in the implementation of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline construction project have suspended work. At the moment, part of the Baltic branch with a total length of up to 150 km remains unfinished. Under American pressure, the marine contractor Allseas (Switzerland) was forced to withdraw its pipe-laying vessels from the construction area. It happened at the end of December.


A separate question, would a Swiss company complete its work in the absence of an American sanction package? Indeed, in the end, all the work in the world was “crumpled” by the coronavirus pandemic. And if Allseas had not had time to complete what had begun before February, today the gas pipeline would not have been completed anyway.

But this is not important. It is important that work with SP-2 will be completed in any case. Yes, they will be delayed in time, including due to American sanction pressure, but in the end, those forces in the USA that are hindering construction today will lose.

Why? A few reasons


The fact is that numerous financial interests are “tied” to the project, including those that are very indirectly related to Russia itself. For example, one of the largest investors in the project is Shell, a UK-based company with headquarters in the Netherlands. Shell's equity assets are also traded on the New York Stock Exchange. The very exchange, which, after a long downtime and billions of dollars in losses, promised to resume its full-fledged work on May 15.

If the United States decides to “finish off” the Nord Stream-2 project, then Shell’s shares, which already suffer losses due to extremely low oil prices, will receive a new impetus for the fall. And these are additional disadvantages, including for the American economy, for which the New York Stock Exchange is a major player. Moreover, this is an additional reduction in the company's jobs due to lost profits on SP-2 and actually lost investments. And the additional loss of jobs in the British-Dutch company is the curtailment (to one degree or another) of other energy projects that are expected to be of high return with increasing prices for hydrocarbons.

Another reason is that today is not the time for the United States itself to be intensely distracted by the European energy market. Firstly, we need multibillion investments in our own shale industry. Secondly, the United States is on the verge of a presidential election. Thirdly, the United States is faced with large-scale crisis phenomena in the economy against the backdrop of well-known events.

Therefore, voters are unlikely to understand their power if they put geopolitical ambitions above the urgent measures that the US economy needs at the moment. It will be difficult for presidential candidates in Texas or Colorado to explain why they now need to additionally “chop” their own market and the allied market (of the same Britain) in order to “confront Putin’s Russia”. American electors are already sick of the tales of "Russian interference". And if someone brings this topic to the surface again, it is unlikely to achieve victory in the elections. But the opponent’s attempts to distract the electorate’s attention with far-fetched problems and threats that are far from the U.S. borders can easily be used against the opponent himself - with the accusation that he pays more attention to some distant gas pipeline than to domestic economic problems.

And what about Europe ...


But there are also European interests. Yes, yes, Europe little by little recalls that its interests are not limited to the range of American interests. The very Europe, which now knows perfectly how they behave in the United States in a crisis: with one click of their fingers cut off economic ties with the simultaneous accusations that Europe did not take care of security. It is the European solution that will ultimately bring the project to an end. For the badly battered economy of the Old World, this is a question that can directly solve its own energy future.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 14 May 2020 18: 21 New
    +7
    But when it’s done, then, say, we did it without "snotty"
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 15 May 2020 15: 49 New
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      But when it’s done, then, say, we did it without "snotty"

      We have already lost, until May 23 we will not have time to finish building and goodbye 50% of the volume.
  2. Doccor18
    Doccor18 14 May 2020 18: 22 New
    -2
    "Why will the American opponents of Nord Stream 2 lose and the pipeline will be completed?"
    Because there are two stakeholders who sells and who buy.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 May 2020 19: 01 New
      0
      Why American opponents of Nord Stream-2 will lose and the pipeline will be completed: reasons
      a question for children .. because "decent people" have invested in the business, and the amount is no longer important, the final result is important, which "warms up" the whole of Europe.
      1. major147
        major147 14 May 2020 21: 12 New
        +5
        Quote: Dead Day
        because "decent people" invested in the business

        MOSCOW, May 14. / TASS /. Five European energy companies - Gazprom's partners in the Nord Stream 2 project - have already invested almost a billion euros in its implementation, that is, almost the entire budget of capital expenditures for the project in the amount of € 8 billion at a project cost of € 9.5 billion has already been invested. TASS was informed about this by the official representative of the company - the operator of the Nord Stream 2 AG project.
      2. Roman123567
        Roman123567 15 May 2020 09: 45 New
        +1
        I would be ashamed to call those people the word "decent" ..
      3. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A 15 May 2020 10: 50 New
        +7
        Quote: Dead Day
        Why American opponents of Nord Stream-2 will lose and the pipeline will be completed: reasons
        a question for children .. because "decent people" have invested in the business, and the amount is no longer important, the final result is important, which "warms up" the whole of Europe.


        Oh well...
        Diesel Gate - Remember?
        How much did Volkswagen pay compensation to America?
        almost 20 billion?

        And how many dozens of world banks - silently fined America billions of dollars in fines?
        5 ? or 10?
        Have you heard about this?
        BNP Paribas - $ 9 billion fine.
        Deutsche Bank - $ 14 billion fine.
        Royal Bank of Scotland - $ 10 billion fine
        And a dozen others.


        So to lose one billion for Shell is a penny, before they are fined 5-10 billion otherwise ...
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  4. Shuttle
    Shuttle 14 May 2020 18: 24 New
    -1
    If the United States decides to “finish off” the Nord Stream-2 project, then Shell’s shares, which already suffer losses due to extremely low oil prices, will receive a new impetus for the fall. And these are additional disadvantages, including for the American economy, for which the New York Stock Exchange is a major player. Moreover, this is an additional reduction in the company's jobs due to lost profits on SP-2 and actually lost investments. And the additional loss of jobs in the British-Dutch company is the curtailment (to one degree or another) of other energy projects that are expected to be of high return with increasing prices for hydrocarbons.

  5. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 14 May 2020 18: 25 New
    -6
    . Why US opponents of Nord Stream 2 will lose

    Because our cause is right and victory will be ours.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 May 2020 19: 04 New
      +6
      Quote: Valery Valery
      . Why US opponents of Nord Stream 2 will lose

      Because our cause is right and victory will be ours.

      Are you in Gazprom or in the government or what?
      1. Valery Valery
        Valery Valery 14 May 2020 19: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Dead Day
        Quote: Valery Valery
        . Why US opponents of Nord Stream 2 will lose

        Because our cause is right and victory will be ours.

        Are you in Gazprom or in the government or what?

        I am in Russia!!
        1. Sergey Sfiedu
          Sergey Sfiedu 14 May 2020 19: 33 New
          14
          The interests of the owners of Gazprom and the interests of Russia are somewhat different things. Sometimes even the opposite.
          1. Roman123567
            Roman123567 15 May 2020 09: 46 New
            +4
            Rather, even - as a rule, the opposite ..
        2. Grandfather
          Grandfather 14 May 2020 19: 42 New
          +5
          Quote: Valery Valery
          Quote: Dead Day
          Quote: Valery Valery
          . Why US opponents of Nord Stream 2 will lose

          Because our cause is right and victory will be ours.

          Are you in Gazprom or in the government or what?

          I am in Russia!!

          what do you mean ... I, too, in the Urals ... and what is our "case" right?
    2. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 14 May 2020 19: 25 New
      +9
      Valery! I would not be so optimistic. The enemy is strong and cunning. What I didn’t like in the article was the use of the expression "Little by little Europe ..." The word "little by little" from our experts means that they want something, but do not know when it will happen and whether it will happen. Therefore, bribes are smooth from them. This is from the same category that "Europe is gradually gaining its sight." I would like to see the light - but somehow slowly, barely noticeable. And this in life means "nothing" and "never".
  6. morpogr
    morpogr 14 May 2020 18: 33 New
    +6
    There is no doubt that they will finish building. The question is how soon they will not come up with new restrictions for sp2 under the pressure of the hegemon.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 14 May 2020 18: 54 New
      +7
      Here the author "America through the window opened." That which will be completed, it was possible not to write about it - even out of stubbornness. But won't SP2 turn out to be the second BAM? This is another question.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 14 May 2020 19: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Here the author "America through the window opened." That which will be completed, it was possible not to write about it - even out of stubbornness. But won't SP2 turn out to be the second BAM? This is another question.

        I think, in less than three years, another branch from Arabia will go, they will be contrived anyway, and the joint venture will be safely closed. (God forbid, of course, but there are such thoughts)
        1. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 14 May 2020 19: 43 New
          -1
          Grandfather, you’re a very pessimist, well, and at the same time dampen the younger generation
        2. WIKI
          WIKI 14 May 2020 23: 03 New
          +2
          Quote: Dead Day
          I think, in less than three years, another branch from Arabia will go, they will be contrived anyway, and the joint venture will be safely closed.

          There is one more problem. This is LNG. For economic reasons, this product, in particular for Turkey, has become much cheaper than pipeline gas. NOVATEK plays an important role here. "The price for LNG delivered to Turkey on the spot market is $ 1,5-2,0 per MMBtu, while the price of Russian pipeline gas in the second quarter of 2020 is estimated at $ 6,5 per MMBtu" https: // ru. investing.com/news/stock-market-news/article-1970378
      2. Normal ok
        Normal ok 15 May 2020 02: 03 New
        +4
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Here the author "America through the window opened." That which will be completed, it was possible not to write about it - even out of stubbornness. But won't SP2 turn out to be the second BAM? This is another question.

        So in Germany, Gazprom has already been ordered to give 50% of the pipe's power to other suppliers.
    2. dgonni
      dgonni 14 May 2020 19: 07 New
      +4
      So SP-2 already falls under the European energy charter. That is, by default, Gazprom through its pipe can sell no more than half of the estimated volumes. The rest should be given to other exporters and traders. And if last year Merkel, by her authority, by the honest word of GDP, by the way, squeezed the non-inclusion of SP-2 under the charter, in cases of launch until May of this year. Then the second time the Germans did not fit into such an adventure.
      The stream will be completed without fail. The question of prestige, however, is not to cut the laid pipes like the Turkish stream.
      For the economy, you can simply remain silent. Sp-2 in modern realities will pay off at best in 150 years.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 14 May 2020 19: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: dgonni
        . Sp-2 in modern realities will pay off at best in 150 years.

        I scoff, of course ... and the "power of Siberia" for how many years?
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 15 May 2020 11: 02 New
          +3
          Quote: Dead Day
          Quote: dgonni
          . Sp-2 in modern realities will pay off at best in 150 years.

          I scoff, of course ... and the "power of Siberia" for how many years?


          Should have been over 30 ...

          And now, probably, it will never pay off either ...
      2. Brturin
        Brturin 14 May 2020 20: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: dgonni
        For the economy, you can simply remain silent. Sp-2 in modern realities will pay off at best in 150 years.

        So Gazprom and it are not alone with it, Israel wants to build East Med in Italy at the beginning of the year they signed an agreement, and here the other day in the Greek parliament approved the agreement. probably the same did not calculate the economy ...
        1. dgonni
          dgonni 14 May 2020 20: 38 New
          +1
          There are not only kosher. There are Greeks and Italians. And by the way, the projected gas pipeline does not fall under the Euro Charter! And it will be built not by countries but by commerce. Well, the cherry on the cake. If they still build it, which I strongly doubt considering the price. The meaning of it is to bite off 10 gas sales lards from Gazprom.
          And if they build it, they will bite it.
  7. Karaul73
    Karaul73 14 May 2020 18: 40 New
    +1
    Quote: morpogr
    There is no doubt that they will finish building. The question is how soon they will not come up with new restrictions for sp2 under the pressure of the hegemon.

    Come up with. So you do not doubt. But as in the song it is necessary to be calm and stubborn.
  8. at84432384
    at84432384 14 May 2020 19: 02 New
    +3
    The article was written clearly by an apologist of the Gaidar-Chubais sect, for which there is only a "market" that rules everyone. History shows that this "market" does not exist and never has been. But there is a serious crisis of capitalism, right according to Marx. And the gas pipeline will be completed or not completed for completely different reasons. There are certainly no economic ones now.
  9. Crystal of Truth
    Crystal of Truth 14 May 2020 19: 05 New
    +4
    They won at the end of the 19th year when they forced Gazprom to sign a contract with Ukraine ..
    And now the question is different, is this Nord Stream necessary at all?
    1. Kisa
      Kisa 14 May 2020 19: 30 New
      -1
      so what to quit? 10% left. I thought about it as a profitable project, but now at least it will be like a card in negotiations. at least something
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 May 2020 19: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Crystal of Truth
      And now the question is different, is this Nord Stream necessary at all?

      here, after all, how ... maybe yes, maybe not ... with all the show-offs of "Putin and Co." in a crisis moment, I think Europe would solve the issue, and build its own highway, but if such a thing ... decided see what comes out of Putin, and how much money he pours in, (this is nice for ideas .. of a potential enemy) well, it’s gone, money poured along with the economy .... can the laces be untied already?
    3. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 14 May 2020 19: 40 New
      -8
      he is needed even to just show Russia is not Burkina Faso
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 14 May 2020 19: 49 New
        -1
        Quote: Ryaruav
        he is needed even to just show Russia is not Burkina Faso

        think they wouldn’t dare? There are many costs, the profit is doubtful ... well, I don’t know .. I'm not a miller.
        1. Ryaruav
          Ryaruav 14 May 2020 20: 20 New
          -1
          you understand, well, they’re not quite there, they don’t have knowledge, but I don’t understand how to cut the branch you feed on
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 14 May 2020 20: 35 New
            -1
            Quote: Ryaruav
            you understand, well, they’re not quite there, they don’t have knowledge, but I don’t understand how to cut the branch you feed on
            female bitch is not a viable process. the word removes the auto-moderator, (write according to school, and everything will be normal, so do not worry, everyone has it. what else ... oh yes ... stripes ... they have no conception. if you are an adequate person, you quickly you will find friends, however, it’s not the adeaks who too quickly find, how unfortunate.
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  10. Courier
    Courier 14 May 2020 19: 23 New
    +3
    It seems to me that SP 2 is given too much importance.
    Under the current 5-year contract with Ukraine, SP 2 is not needed. Gas consumption in Europe fell even before the crisis, and it is not known how much it will recover.
    SP 2 is just a pipe under water, whether it is or not, it does not matter.
    But what will happen to the Russian economy, even with pipes, even without them.
  11. arhitroll
    arhitroll 14 May 2020 19: 36 New
    +1
    Because fools or traitors want beads ... wake up - like a huge breakthrough and the achievement of the nation - the sale of raw materials, and even fight for it ... what a shame.
    1. bairat
      bairat 14 May 2020 20: 13 New
      +6
      They do not fight but are humiliated, agree to any conditions, lose the courts and pay fines from the budget, for which this is all not clear. We cannot gasify our enterprise, horse prices are breaking, we would have been laid a pipe under such conditions.
      1. ABM
        ABM 14 May 2020 21: 44 New
        -4
        You have not seen horse prices - they are in Europe that we have preferential compared to them
        1. UserGun
          UserGun 15 May 2020 00: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: ABM
          we have preferential compared to them


          Yes, well !!! )))

          "Due to the fact that after a very mild winter, record volumes of gas remained in European underground storage facilities, as well as under the pressure of growing supplies of liquefied natural gas (LNG), spot gas prices in Europe fell to the level of domestic Russian prices. So, on Tuesday, 31 March, the price of blue fuel at the Dutch TTF and at the British gas hub National Balancing Point (NBP) settled (in terms of) at the level 82 dollar per thousand cubic meters, and the day before it dropped below $ 80, reports "Interfax".

          At the same time, the agency notes, in the western Russian regions - the Leningrad and Smolensk regions, the cost of selling gas ($ 59 per thousand cubic meters), increased by the amount of export customs duty (30%) is 84-85 dollars, significantly exceeding the price on European sites. "
          1. ABM
            ABM 15 May 2020 09: 52 New
            0
            I correctly understood that the Leningrad and Smolensk region is no longer Russia and they began to supply gas to them with export duties?
            1. UserGun
              UserGun 15 May 2020 15: 49 New
              0
              Well, these are not my words))) For what I bought, or even sell. It is very hard to suspect Interfax and Deutsche Welle))) This is not a jelly TV with colorful splints about the tales of Putin's "vertical" for domestic consumption)))

              "Despite the strongest cold since the beginning of the year, spot prices at European gas hubs at the end of March dropped below domestic Russian ones, Interfax indicates. europe-fell-below-russian / a-52967803
            2. UserGun
              UserGun 15 May 2020 16: 01 New
              -1
              And if you do not believe them (everyone can be wrong, not the gods)))) then even at domestic prices:

              Gas prices at the most liquid European hubs in the UK (NBP) and the Netherlands (TTF) on Wednesday, April 22, with delivery the next day fell to $ 43 and $ 67 for 1 thousand cubic meters. m. A month ago, on March 22, on these hubs 1 thousand cubic meters. m gas cost $ 100 and $ 95 respectively.

              This happened amid falling demand due to coronavirus, gas storage facilities and warming, said Dmitry Marinchenko, senior director of Fitch’s natural resources and commodities group, at RBC.

              At the same time, domestic gas prices for the population in the regions of Russia, which are set by the Federal Antimonopoly Service (FAS) in terms of dollars (at the Central Bank exchange rate on April 22, 77,04 rubles per dollar) for consumers of the Southern Federal District are $ 67 per 1 thousand. cube m Leningrad region - $ 63 per 1 thousand cubic meters. m, estimated gas analyst at the Energy Center of the Moscow School of Management Skolkovo Sergei Kapitonov. In Moscow, wholesale regulated gas prices are up to $ 65 per 1 thousand cubic meters m, adds Maria Belova, Research Director at VYGON Consulting.

              Read more at RBC:
              https://www.rbc.ru/business/23/04/2020/5ea05fa39a79472367751eda
  12. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 14 May 2020 19: 38 New
    +2
    my personal opinion, the Americans will not give up pressure and direct Polish sabotage against sp-2 under any circumstances other than the civil war in the usa
    1. ximkim
      ximkim 14 May 2020 20: 28 New
      -2
      The sp2 pipe itself is a trap for those (gas suppliers) who have decided that this is the easiest way to generate income. As long as the pipe laying process, a lot of things went: sanctions and a new transit contract through Ukraine, but nobody wants to remember that. interesting things will start when gas goes through it, I feel that Western consumers are preparing surprises, and I'm not talking about the famous energy package.
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 14 May 2020 20: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Ryaruav
      my personal opinion, the Americans will not give up pressure and direct Polish sabotage

      while there is America and Poland, the scope for sabotage is wide.
  13. cniza
    cniza 14 May 2020 20: 35 New
    -2
    For the badly battered economy of the Old World, this is a question that can directly solve its own energy future.


    The trouble is that Europe is essentially occupied by the United States and cannot decide anything on its own ...
    1. Crystal of Truth
      Crystal of Truth 14 May 2020 20: 42 New
      -1
      What Europe must decide on its own
  14. really
    really 14 May 2020 21: 09 New
    -6
    I read about the sanctions, it seems that how many Caliber and Zircon are not working, against America, it is difficult to resist the American sanctions.
  15. Karabin
    Karabin 14 May 2020 21: 46 New
    +3
    Therefore, voters are unlikely to understand their power if they put geopolitical ambitions above the urgent measures that the US economy needs at the moment. It will be difficult for presidential candidates in Texas or Colorado to explain why they now need to additionally “chop” their own market and the allied market (of the same Britain) in order to “confront Putin’s Russia”.
    Oh how! It turns out that voters depend on the voters in the den of capitalism. laughing And here in Skrepononos Edro will win the election again, even if he passes the law on forced castration. Not to mention pension reform. And it’s very easy for the lifelong candidate Putin to explain to the worker from Voronezh or Samara any squiggle with the economy, the confrontation with America.
  16. thinker
    thinker 14 May 2020 21: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: arhitroll
    selling raw materials, and even fighting for it ... what a shame
    fool
    In the gas market, the main source of new supply is now American LNG plants... In April and July 2020, commercial operation of the second and third stages of the Cameron LNG plant of the American Sempra Energy with a capacity of 8 million tons will begin. At the end of 2019, Freeport LNG launched the second line of the plant with a capacity of 5 million tons, another line with a capacity of 5 million tons will be commissioned in May. By mid-2020, the remaining seven lines of the Elba Island LNG plant will be in operation, when its capacity will reach 2,5 Mtpa. Finally, in 2021, it is planned to launch the third stage of the Corpus Christi project with a capacity of 4,5 million tons per year.

    https://finance.rambler.ru/markets/43558444-gazovaya-voyna-2020-gazprom-vybrasyvayut-iz-evropy/?updated
  17. Mihail2019
    Mihail2019 14 May 2020 22: 08 New
    -1
    Because in the struggle between good and evil, "loot" won!
    "Now they talk about money .."
    (C) Yu.I. Vizbor
  18. Azis
    Azis 14 May 2020 22: 53 New
    +1
    Information on the content of contracts / government agreements for SP-2 is closed. It is not yet known how long Nord Stream 2 AG has committed to build a gas pipeline and what fines are for violating the deadlines, given that Gazprom is the main shareholder there. Not enough money paid for the hill due to mistakes of Gazprom strategists?
  19. iouris
    iouris 14 May 2020 22: 56 New
    +1
    Napoleon: "General, why did you surrender the fortress?"
    General: "First, there were no cores ..."
    Napoleon: "Enough in the first place, General."
    1. Moon
      Moon 15 May 2020 08: 12 New
      0
      Quote: iouris
      General: "First, there were no cores ..."

      gunpowder ...
  20. Puhly67
    Puhly67 14 May 2020 23: 38 New
    -1
    And that has not yet been completed. a bit remained there ............ That's all. unfinished ..... ???
  21. Cowbra
    Cowbra 15 May 2020 00: 01 New
    -4
    Ugly, sir! You just gave slogans, do you not know the rationales - purely economic - are you? Bad sir, ugly even
  22. Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 15 May 2020 00: 17 New
    0
    "SP2 opponents will lose ..."

    Unfortunately, no.
    It should be borne in mind that the project was incredibly delayed, the project was redone many times, initially the plan was through Bulgaria, and the supply of Serbia and some other countries was easily solved by that project. Something was already partially built. There has already been a loss in time, an increase in investment. Gazprom must have had to snag construction partners by providing all kinds of goodies.
    It was possible to tighten the construction until the signing of a new agreement with Ukraine.
    During this time, there were several lawsuits against Gazprom, stupid and ridiculous to the idiocy, but with a great price tag and lost for political reasons. Again the principle with the third energy package surfaced.

    A victory over opponents would be if they built through Bulgaria at one time or SP2 in a short time (at least in 2019) despite the confrontation from the adversaries.
  23. IC
    IC 15 May 2020 01: 20 New
    +2
    The author has a rich imagination.
    So far, from the ill-conceived policy of Gazprom, Russia and its people are losing. Losses from the re-turbations of the South Stream into Turkish, not less than a billion. With SP2 is much more. There is no need to talk about payback due to lower consumption, falling prices, the European Charter and alternative pipelines. But the main thing has been achieved. Well, pipe manufacturers, construction contractors and other participants in these projects have already earned money. The same with the Power of Siberia.
  24. Radikal
    Radikal 15 May 2020 03: 16 New
    -1

    But there are also European interests. Yes, yes, Europe little by little recalls that its interests are not limited to the range of American interests. The very Europe, which now knows perfectly how they behave in the United States in a crisis: with one click of their fingers cut off economic ties with the simultaneous accusations that Europe did not take care of security. It is the European solution that will ultimately bring the project to an end. For the badly battered economy of the Old World, this is a question that can directly solve its own energy future.
    What are you author about? Either you consider the forum participants to be ignoramuses, or you yourself - although it is unlikely. So what is misleading?
    Industrial and banking circles in the USA and Europe "raised" Hitler against the USSR. The Soviet Union withstood the World War and won! What happened next with Europe? Young's plan and Marshall's plan. What were the plans for the implementation of these plans? Capture of the European market, takeover of major companies, their capital. As a result, European companies, no longer European at all, but owned by the industrial and banking groups of the Rothschilds, and the Rockefellers of those who took Hitler to the "throne" in Germany in 1933. So the "European solution" does not mean anything and is not worth it! USA will decide! If only because most of the various archives of the Third Reich, and, accordingly, the presence of surviving agents in various social and administrative layers of Europe were at the disposal of the US intelligence services. They have disposed of them with dignity and continue to use them. So, the author - do not entertain yourself with illusions and mislead those present! hi
    1. ABM
      ABM 15 May 2020 17: 53 New
      -1
      The Rockefellers of the Rothschilds won two world wars, what do you put them together ?!
  25. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 May 2020 07: 12 New
    0
    The question is different: What costs will the Russian Federation incur in the construction of the SP-2? But the main part has already been built, in principle.
  26. Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 May 2020 07: 54 New
    -3
    But because God so pleases, because the Russians have a soul, and striped bucks instead.
  27. Grading
    Grading 15 May 2020 14: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: Dead Day
    Quote: Valery Valery
    . Why US opponents of Nord Stream 2 will lose

    Because our cause is right and victory will be ours.

    Are you in Gazprom or in the government or what?

  28. Radikal
    Radikal 15 May 2020 18: 02 New
    0
    .
    Quote: ABM
    The Rockefellers of the Rothschilds won two world wars, what do you put them together ?!

    A common heap was obtained when it was necessary to unite against a common enemy - the USSR. lol After all, you yourself know, but you throw funny, provocative posts to me. hi
  29. Dedok
    Dedok 18 May 2020 15: 49 New
    +1
    "Ponty is more expensive than money": this is in essence, but in form: the authors apparently believe - that they "eat everything" - that they write
  30. Thomas the Unbelieving
    Thomas the Unbelieving 18 May 2020 20: 04 New
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    Question. Why doesn’t anyone say that in the event of hostilities, the security of LNG supply will be a threat to the security of Europe? Forgot about German submarines.
  31. NF68
    NF68 21 May 2020 16: 24 New
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    For German industrialists interested in not very expensive Russian gas, an intermediate link in the supply of gas to Germany under the name Ukraine, is something like a monkey with a grenade from which you can expect everything. So these people in Germany are very interested in completing the SP-2. And without a competitive industry, Germany will instantly wither away.