There was information about the alleged arrest of a defendant in the case of MH17 in Donetsk

14 May 2020 56

There was information that in Donetsk one of those people allegedly arrested by the Netherlands prosecutor on the list of 4 defendants in the case of the downed Malaysian Boeing MH17 was allegedly arrested. The arrest is reported by representatives of the "Russian Service of the BBC."

The material stated that we are talking about a man named Leonid Kharchenko.

It is noteworthy that the reports stated about his "arrest in another case."

At the same time, the “Russian BBC Service” refers to a certain person who in 2014-2015 allegedly had relation to the command of the people's militia (militia) of the DPR. This person is said to live in Donetsk. Apparently, he decided to share his "experiences" with the BBC. And the same source claims that "the arrest is apparently necessary for the purpose to isolate Kharchenko."

The material says that Kharchenko was "arrested" on a "ridiculous charge" of illegally conducting a search and illegal storage weapons.

So far, there is no official confirmation of the data on the arrest of Kharchenko.

Recall that the trial in the case of MH17 began in the Netherlands on March 9. The main defendants in addition to the mentioned Kharchenko are three: Igor Girkin, Oleg Pulatov and Sergey Dubinsky. In connection with the pandemic, the process was suspended.

Recall that in July this year marks the sixth anniversary of the tragedy in the Grabovo region. At the same time, the Dutch prosecutor’s office does not consider it necessary to study the case file, including such an episode as fragments of the rocket that the Boeing was shot down. The same rocket, which, as it turned out, belonged to the APU.

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Thrifty

+16

14 May 2020 17: 21

And thirty years will pass and the Dutch will "look for evidence" and blame Russia! They do not need facts, just like the truth, the "face" command towards Russia is European everything, including conscience. ..
1. The leader of the Redskins
  
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  14 May 2020 19: 02
  
  Why so? That's because the author bluntly stated:
  The same rocket, which, as it turned out, belonged to the APU.
  It’s just not clear why he is declaring this at VO, and not at The Hague or at the tribunal?
  1. Abbot
    
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    14 May 2020 21: 38
    
    The BBC Russian service learned that Leonid Kharchenko, a key person involved in the crash of the Malaysian Boeing MH17, was arrested in Donetsk in March (https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-52650309)
    
    It is obvious that the information campaign on denigration and falsification continues. Now it is necessary to present the "public" of the defendants in the case, accused by the prosecutor's office of the Netherlands, as such inveterate criminals. Where is the BBC Russian Service, where is Donetsk? But no, the branch of the Ministry of Propaganda. Goebbels "became known." Free press, my ass!
  2. tolmachiev51
    
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    15 May 2020 03: 31
    
    This is not the author, but the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation provided the entire alignment of the "journey" of this missile, which ended up in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
  3. hagen
    
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    15 May 2020 06: 04
    
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    The same rocket, which, as it turned out, belonged to the APU.
    
    It remains only to understand where this rocket came from? For example, the rocket that AA blew up in the experiment scattered to pieces with the engine. And on the photos presented, the engine parts are simply deformed, as if they just fell from a height without undermining the b / h. Pvolniki, what do you say? Is it possible?
    1. Olgovich
      
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      15 May 2020 09: 03
      
      Quote: Hagen
      It remains only to understand whence took this rocket?
      
      The Ministry of Defense told in great detail the full history of the rocket, the engine of which is presented by the Dutch as found on the crash field from the factory to the military unit on the territory of Ukraine.
      1. hagen
        
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        15 May 2020 09: 16
        
        Quote: Olgovich
        represented by the Dutch, as found on the crash field - from the factory to the military unit on the territory of Ukraine.
        
        That part of the rocket does not look like a piece of that particular rocket. What is the question, where did this part come from in the investigation team? After all, when undermined, it should not have been preserved in this form, judging by the experiment. I suspect that the Dutch have a tuff rocket engine, as well as those photos that they present as evidence of transporting a BUK on a trailer.
        
        Olgovich
        
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        15 May 2020 09: 26
        
        Quote: Hagen
        Do not like that part of the rocket per piece exactly that rocket.
        
        Have you seen "that" rocket?
        Quote: Hagen
        What is the question, where did this part come from in the investigation team?
        
        from the crash field
        Quote: Hagen
        After all, when undermining she shouldn't have preserved in this form, judging by the experiment.
        
        none I have not claimed
        Quote: Hagen
        I suspect that the Dutch have a rocket engine
        
        what for?! Against yourself ... yourself?
        Quote: Hagen
        those photos that they present as evidence of transporting a BUK on a trailer
        
        well, this is already proven bullshit ....
        
        hagen
        
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        15 May 2020 10: 55
        
        Quote: Olgovich
        Have you seen "that" rocket?
        
        Nobody saw her, I think. What was shown is most likely not relevant to the incident.
        Quote: Olgovich
        from the crash field
        
        It was possible to bring an elephant to this field. It was not guarded and periodically fired by ukraine.
        Quote: Olgovich
        what for?! Against yourself ... yourself?
        
        Then, that the Dutch do not care about anyone. They were told to take the piece of iron into the evidence, they accepted. The investigation is not managed by the RLS, but by another authority, which has classified its materials in the case. In fact, with a high degree of probability, in addition to ukrov, the CIA + MI-6 participated. There is information about this that is not accepted for consideration by the OSG.
        Quote: Olgovich
        well, this is already proven bullshit ....
        
        Nevertheless, the report appears as evidence of the version of Gerashchenko-Avakov, according to which Buk was brought from the Russian Federation, shot once and taken back.
        Quote: Olgovich
        no one claimed
        
        Whose statements do you know? There is an English professor of Dutch production who gives his own, more detailed investigation into this case than notes on the Internet. There is a meticulous German lawyer who also investigates the case privately. They have interesting things. In addition, I initially asked people familiar with air defense about the possibility of the demonstrated safety of the rocket engine, which the Dutch showed at a press conference.
        
        Olgovich
        
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        16 May 2020 08: 44
        
        Quote: Hagen
        Nobody saw her, I think. What was shown is most likely not relevant to the incident.
        
        WHY did the FOLLOWERS show her?
        Quote: Hagen
        It was possible to bring an elephant to this field. It was not guarded and periodically fired by ukraine.
        
        So what? WHAT FOR?
        Quote: Hagen
        Then, that the Dutch do not care about anyone. They were told to take the piece of iron into the evidence.
        
        What for?
        Quote: Hagen
        Nevertheless, the report appears as evidence of the version of Gerashchenko-Avakov, according to which Buk was brought from the Russian Federation, shot once and taken back.
        
        photo with Ross beech-proven fakes
        Quote: Hagen
        Whose statements do you know? There is an English professor of Dutch production who gives his own, more detailed investigation into this case than notes on the Internet. There is a meticulous German lawyer who also investigates the case privately. They have interesting things. In addition, I initially asked people familiar with air defense about the possibility of the demonstrated safety of the rocket engine, which the Dutch showed at a press conference.
        
        there are allegations of that. that the engine is being destroyed.
        
        hagen
        
        +1
        
        16 May 2020 09: 03
        
        Quote: Olgovich
        WHY did the FOLLOWERS show her?
        
        To prove that it really was Buk.
        Quote: Olgovich
        So what? WHAT FOR?
        
        The wreckage of an airplane on the field is material evidence that restores the picture of the crime. After shelling the wreckage, traces that are not related to the crime appear on them. Knowing that they were fired, traces can always be written off for firing, which fall out of the OSG version of the causes of the crash of the plane. You do not need to have seven spans in your forehead to understand this.
        Quote: Olgovich
        photo with Ross beech-proven fakes
        
        Who proved? Who takes this evidence into account? Judging by the fact that the OSG version of Gerashchenko-Avakov is considered as the main one, he did not prove it.
        Quote: Olgovich
        there are allegations of that. that the engine is being destroyed.
        
        Where not, on the Internet? And in other sources? Even AA somehow didn’t mention it in the press releases, I mean the condition of the blown up rocket. Although some in the West say directly - the rocket, including the engine, was broken into small fragments during the experiment. Therefore, I, and not only me, had doubts. The media give us information in a very reduced form.
2. APASUS
  
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  14 May 2020 21: 28
  
  Quote: Thrifty
  And thirty years will pass and the Dutch will "look for evidence" and blame Russia! They do not need facts, just like the truth, the "face" command towards Russia is European everything, including conscience. ..
  
  Nothing, I think not long left! Now the "hegemon's" grip will weaken (the economic crisis is on the nose) and Poroshenko and Parasyuki will run to tell who paid how much to whom for shooting down MH-17 and where the dispatchers went, who gave orders.
  1. hagen
    
    +5
    
    15 May 2020 06: 17
    
    Quote: APASUS
    Nothing, I think not long left!
    
    I think no one will look for anything. This barrel organ will be endless. Today, this is not the first accusation made without evidence. A new legal thinking is being formed when the presumption of innocence is applied very selectively. The carcass, shot down by ukrami in 2001, shows that they will remain silent on this subject, as well as on MH17, until the end of the story.
    1. APASUS
      
      +1
      
      15 May 2020 09: 21
      
      Quote: Hagen
      I think no one will look for anything. This barrel organ will be endless. Today, this is not the first accusation made without evidence. A new legal thinking is formed when the presumption of innocence is applied very selectively
      
      So this is, first of all, our interest. It will be necessary just to seize the moment so that a new legal thinking is not formed
      1. hagen
        
        +2
        
        15 May 2020 11: 18
        
        Quote: APASUS
        So this is primarily our interest
        
        We are conducting our investigation, but it is not official. We do not have access to material evidence. And will not be. One pilot who was supposed to have traces of exposure was already cremated. Most of the aircraft, even from the field, have not yet been assembled, and the one that was assembled was cut for an incomprehensible purpose.
        Quote: APASUS
        You just have to take a moment
        
        I think that our opponents are doing everything so that we could not use anything in the interests of truth. The plane was shot, I think, deliberately, and those who did it will do their best so that we don’t get anything from the truth. The remaining victims of the case, although citizens of their own countries (countries officially investigating the case), but they are not interested in them.
        Moreover, I think that the court decision will not be in favor of the truth, but against the Russian Federation. And assuming a guilty verdict, changes are being made to the constitution of the Russian Federation for the sake of one article.
vkd.dvk

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14 May 2020 17: 25

Great. a citizen, it seems, was arrested for something, but visionaries from idiocy decided to carry out an operation to discredit this citizen, putting the blame on him for the fact that he could be involved in the disaster. The idea is this: HIS IT IS HIDDEN from justice for a crime with an airplane. In a pre-trial detention center, where no one will be allowed to be interrogated in this case.
1. syndicalist
  
  -3
  
  15 May 2020 09: 05
  
  In this regard, the position of Strelkov is very interesting, who certainly knows who shot down the plane, but every time he gets off with the formula: "The DPR did not shoot down the plane."
  Since he does not particularly hide his political ambitions, he does not want to compromise himself with a lie, preferring this flaw.
  The question that everyone should ask themselves is the following - would he shy away from a direct answer if the plane were shot down by APU?
Mountain shooter

+16

14 May 2020 17: 35

And why did the "Russian orcs" then "clean up" the witnesses? Since Mordor is such that even amnestied scouts with their daughters and cats are poisoned in the center of democracy ...
This is sarcasm with irony in half ...
Bullshit, this message ... That's how to relate to these media?
1. major147
  
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  14 May 2020 20: 59
  
  Quote: Mountain Shooter
  Bullshit,
  
  "The BBC Russian Service refers to a certain person who in 2014-2015 was allegedly involved in the command of the people's militia (militia) of the DPR. This person allegedly lives in Donetsk. Apparently, he decided to share his “experiences” with “BBC.” And the same source states that “the arrest, apparently, is necessary in order to isolate Kharchenko.”
  
  In general, "one grandmother said"!
  1. bycharashkO
    
    +3
    
    15 May 2020 06: 59
    
    Bbc - бabka бabke сshowed up.
Evdokim

+5

14 May 2020 17: 44

The arrest is reported by representatives of the "Russian Service of the BBC."

As reported by the OBS agency, representatives of the BBC Russian Service were seen sucking their own fingers in the London edition of the BBC in order to receive sensational news on the case of the downed Malaysian Boeing MH17.
1. 4ekist
  
  +8
  
  14 May 2020 18: 32
  
  To get "sensational" news, these journalists are ready to suck anything.
2. T.Henks
  
  +1
  
  15 May 2020 10: 42
  
  However, it is dangerous. A virus, it is so many-sided. The suction may not backfire there. Take care. Bb syatam.
cniza

+3

14 May 2020 17: 54

There is an information war, and they will not throw such a thing ...
1. Nikolai Grek
  
  +5
  
  14 May 2020 21: 46
  
  Quote: cniza
  There is an information war, and they will not throw such a thing ...
  
  something else is interesting here ... are they really want to bring them to war with Russia with their motions, as in the year 41 ???
bzbo

+2

14 May 2020 18: 00

It’s time to catch a couple of Dutch experts and judges
1. Pereira
  
  +1
  
  14 May 2020 21: 41
  
  No need to catch. Buckwheat feed with Novice.
bzbo

+2

14 May 2020 18: 00

15 years ago there was a murder, which to this day is remembered, written, made films. February 24, 2004 in the suburbs of Zurich, air traffic controller Peter Nielsen was killed in his home. His fate was in the hands of the Russian Vitaly Kaloev, who could not reconcile with the loss of his family in the crash of a passenger plane over Lake Constance on July 1, 2002.
The only way they understand ...
1. Pereira
  
  +1
  
  14 May 2020 21: 42
  
  The Ukrainian dispatcher knows this story well. For several years now, on the run.
Junior Private

+1

14 May 2020 18: 04

The court will decide on the 300th anniversary of the birth of Lee Harvey Oswald. But somehow, for the past six years, world aviation has openly disdained to fly through the Ukrainian airspace. Why would that be?
parusnik

0

14 May 2020 18: 10

... Some kind of games ... Infu was not in vain merged, whether it is true or not
Zaurbek

0

14 May 2020 18: 55

And who arrested him? Kiev?
askort154

+5

14 May 2020 19: 06

The "Russian BBC Service" at the same time refers to a certain person who in 2014-2015 allegedly had to do with the command of the people's militia (militia) of the DPR.

Strangely, the BBC Russian Service uses the word “allegedly”.
Nowadays it is fashionable to apply - "highley like" (very likely).
In the already forgotten "case of the creaks", it sounded in every paragraph.
1. Moon
  
  -1
  
  15 May 2020 08: 06
  
  Quote: askort154
  The "Russian BBC Service" at the same time refers to a certain person who in 2014-2015 allegedly had to do with the command of the people's militia (militia) of the DPR.
  
  Strangely, the BBC Russian Service uses the word “allegedly”.
  Nowadays it is fashionable to apply - "highley like" (very likely).
  In the already forgotten "case of the creaks", it sounded in every paragraph.
  
  you check the source!
  This on VO is used "allegedly" not in a quotation from the original source, but as an insert into the news ... which dramatically lowers the level of the media. Manipulation and change of information.
  Although what am I talking about - the usual info war.
  The BBC Russian service learned that Leonid Kharchenko, a key person involved in the crash of the Malaysian Boeing MH17, shot down in the sky of Donbass in 2014, was arrested in Donetsk in March. He is one of four defendants in a case currently pending in the Netherlands.
  
  https://www.bbc.com/russian/features-52650309
  and the word "supposedly" is used in the original source only once
  "The accusations are ridiculous - allegedly participation in an illegal search in 2014 and illegal possession of weapons, - said the BBC's interlocutor, familiar with the case of the arrested Kharchenko. “The victims have no complaints about the first point. On the second, this pistol was given to him in 2019 by the Ministry of State Security to ensure personal safety in connection with the MH17 case. "
syndicalist

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14 May 2020 19: 43

which, as it turned out, belonged to the APU.

Where did you find out?
1. Nikolai Grek
  
  +8
  
  14 May 2020 22: 28
  
  Quote: syndicalist
  which, as it turned out, belonged to the APU.
  
  Where did you find out?
  
  The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation showed evidence: the missile that shot down a Boeing over the Donbass was Ukrainian
  https://www.stav.kp.ru/daily/26882/3926491/
  1. syndicalist
    
    -5
    
    14 May 2020 23: 22
    
    Quote: Nikolai the Greek
    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation presented evidence:
    
    I’ll try to calculate which one.
    1) Shot down a Ukrainian plane. The testimony of a mass of witnesses at the scene of the shooting was given.
    2) testimony of the mechanic of the Ukrainian pilot Voloshin
    3) testimony of the Spanish controller Carlos
    4) satellite images on Channel One
    1. Nikolai Grek
      
      +10
      
      14 May 2020 23: 59
      
      Quote: syndicalist
      Quote: Nikolai the Greek
      The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation presented evidence:
      
      I’ll try to calculate which one.
      1) Shot down a Ukrainian plane. The testimony of a mass of witnesses at the scene of the shooting was given.
      2) testimony of the mechanic of the Ukrainian pilot Voloshin
      3) testimony of the Spanish controller Carlos
      4) satellite images on Channel One
      
      Here are the same excuses for the supposedly super-professional Dutch commission !!! they dragged the evidence with identification numbers themselves, then they themselves began to excuse themselves in your style !!!
Alevil

+5

14 May 2020 19: 49

First, Kim Jong-un "died", then now someone has been arrested. Oh well...
orionvitt

+2

14 May 2020 21: 48

"Russian service of the BBC"
You can not tell further. Thank you, heard enough, back in the 80s
German Titov

+3

14 May 2020 22: 12

At the same time, the “Russian BBC Service” refers to a certain person who in 2014-2015 allegedly had relation to the command of the people's militia (militia) of the DPR. This person is said to live in Donetsk. Apparently, he decided to share his "experiences" with the BBC. And the same source claims that "the arrest is apparently necessary for the purpose to isolate Kharchenko."

Allegedly arrest, allegedly to the command of the UNM (in 2014, there was no such thing). Supposedly I believed this news, I live in the DPR. If the "kid" kept the "howitzer battery" and conducted illegal searches, "in kind" supposedly and arrested - then there is nothing. The supposedly respected site "VO" is really respected, then why should "shitty maidans" be like?
1. Moon
  
  0
  
  15 May 2020 08: 10
  
  Quote: German Titov
  The "Russian BBC Service" at the same time refers to a certain person who in 2014-2015 allegedly had relation to the command of the people's militia (militia) of the DPR
  
  yes not there "supposedly"
  Co-worker Harchenko, who agreed to talk with the BBC
  
  I am amazed - how lazy it is, check the source and compare it with the news on VO.
  Or does the opinion of the author of the news always need to be a priori checked?
HMR333

0

15 May 2020 08: 51

To hell with these rumors that the grandmother on the bench said? Who would betray him to these crazy dreamers! Yes, since the BBC said yes the most honest .....
revnagan

-5

15 May 2020 11: 19

"The same missile, which, as it turned out, belonged to the Armed Forces of Ukraine." (Cit.)
Very carefully, gradually, bend your line. Who found out who admitted this, which court accepted the evidence for consideration and recognized their authenticity? None of this, but "..... the rocket, .... belonged to the Ukrainian Armed Forces." your point of view. .
vkd.dvk

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15 May 2020 11: 33

Quote: syndicalist
In this regard, the position of Strelkov is very interesting, who certainly knows who shot down the plane, but every time he gets off with the formula: "The DPR did not shoot down the plane."
Since he does not particularly hide his political ambitions, he does not want to compromise himself with a lie, preferring this flaw.
The question that everyone should ask themselves is the following - would he shy away from a direct answer if the plane were shot down by APU?

Aren't you contradicting yourself? Strelkov knows, therefore, does not speak.
He does not speak because there is evidence past him. He does not want to look like a small mongrel, flattering alongside venerable experts.
And here you are.
vkd.dvk

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15 May 2020 11: 40

Quote: Pereira
The Ukrainian dispatcher knows this story well. For several years now, on the run.

I doubt I'm running. Most likely, lies. A few meters underground. For, so reliable. Suddenly tired of running around and want to chop off a bunch of dough. It will appear, sort of, all of a sudden on some TV channel and say ......
Get rich, for whatever task (white or red) did not fulfill its role.
vkd.dvk

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15 May 2020 11: 49

Quote: revnagan
"The same missile, which, as it turned out, belonged to the Armed Forces of Ukraine." (Cit.)
Very carefully, gradually, bend your line. Who found out who admitted this, which court accepted the evidence for consideration and recognized their authenticity? None of this, but "..... the rocket, .... belonged to the Ukrainian Armed Forces." your point of view. .

The court, in which Chikatilo acts as a prosecutor. What kind of court are you talking about? Are you completely crazy, or so born?
vkd.dvk

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15 May 2020 12: 09

Quote: Hagen
Quote: Olgovich
represented by the Dutch, as found on the crash field - from the factory to the military unit on the territory of Ukraine.

That part of the rocket does not look like a piece of that particular rocket. What is the question, where did this part come from in the investigation team? After all, when undermined, it should not have been preserved in this form, judging by the experiment. I suspect that the Dutch have a tuff rocket engine, as well as those photos that they present as evidence of transporting a BUK on a trailer.

And tell us, what interest is it for these "judges" to put in the details of the wrong rocket, which confirms their pretensions? Couldn't they have gotten a piece of iron with the numbers of a Russian military unit from somewhere, most certainly, from the Far East? So that, too, on the spot and everyone ...