Lukashenko again called on Russia to lower gas prices for the republic

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Lukashenko again called on Russia to lower gas prices for the republic

Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has once again called on Russia to lower prices for gas supplied to the republic. This was reported by the Belarusian media.

The Belarusian leader on Thursday, after a conversation with Prime Minister Sergei Rumas, said that the price of Russian gas for the republic should be reduced, due to the mismatch of gas prices for Europe and Belarus. According to him, Moscow sells gas to Europe at $ 70 per thousand cubic meters, while for Belarus gas is still sold at $ 127 per thousand cubic meters, and this happens in the year of the 75th anniversary of the Victory in the Great Patriotic War.



Yesterday I received information that Russia sells natural gas to Europe at this difficult time, up to $ 70: $ 65-68, but not $ 127, as for Belarus. (...) Well this is not the case, I'm not talking about the year of the 75th anniversary that Germany sells natural gas up to $ 70, as I have information, it was different there, but not $ 127, like for Belarus

- the media quoted the words of Lukashenko.

This is not the first call by the Belarusian president to lower gas prices. In early April of this year, he proposed that Moscow reduce the cost of gas to $ 40-45 per thousand cubic meters and thereby help the republic in the fight against coronavirus infection.

It should be noted that the price of gas for Belarus in 2020 was maintained at the level of the past, 2019, and amounts to 127 dollars per thousand cubic meters. The agreement was signed by Gazprom’s head Alexei Miller and Belarus’s ambassador to Moscow Vladimir Semashko in February this year. According to Belarusian media, in May negotiations between the parties on new gas prices may take place.
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    1. +14
      14 May 2020 13: 09
      Well, it will begin now!
      1. -29
        14 May 2020 13: 11
        So we sell to Europe, and we give Belarus, there is a difference
        1. +25
          14 May 2020 13: 16
          Quote: Humpbacked Horse
          So we sell to Europe, and we give Belarus, there is a difference


          What did you mean? can be more detailed ...
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            1. -13
              14 May 2020 14: 32
              Quote: Sandor Clegane
              Quote: cniza
              What did you mean? can be more detailed ...

              yes he just farted, ignore

              Something a lot of such pukleschikov on the first lines divorced .. That's the problem! And our oligarchs have been "killing Lukashenko" economically and in the information space for more than one year.
              He periodically literally kicks them out of the country with residents of money with their money .. That's angry with him! And Putin. That only laughed and kept quiet .. But after all, Belarusians and us are pitted with such articles and especially the headings to them ..
              Hold on to Lukashenko and do not trust our media .. Russia for the most part for you .. hi We can’t play against Belarusians ..
              1. +27
                14 May 2020 14: 50
                Lukashenko was asked to give an opportunity to deploy a Su-27SM squadron in the republic in 2015. How did you end up saying?
                For a long time he yelled "Yaki, he's all of himself square!"
                1. -11
                  14 May 2020 15: 04
                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  Lukashenko was asked to give an opportunity to deploy a Su-27SM squadron in the republic in 2015. How did you end up saying?
                  For a long time he yelled "Yaki, he's all of himself square!"

                  Well, it was the case! So after all, the persecution began in all "our" media and not ours .. He asked for benefits from Russia for gas and so on, because his country would have begun to persecute even more, and so on. for the deployment of Russian military bases! the same Baltics and others
                  I understand him, he is worried about Belarus, the people do not live richly, but reliably .. And the Sechins, the Friedmans and the Millers with their suitcases will buy it and they’ll buy everything and the people will be driven out to the streets .. We’ll probably send you Samoslavs and fertilizer plants to you from the west not needed, too unprofitable .. Potatoes out of Israel can also import cheap meat from Poland ..etc. After all, would that be so?
                  A Belarusian stew? My wife admired it, there is real meat and I, too, was shocked ..
                  1. +25
                    14 May 2020 15: 14
                    There were already benefits. He was offered to work, he stood in a pose. Then Moscow began to slowly tighten the nuts. Belarus and local Natsiks began to cherish about a year in 2012. And all pro-Russian people by that time in Belarus had been cleaned up. Similarly did Yanyk, by the way, at about the same time. But there was more fun ...
                    1. +6
                      15 May 2020 00: 03
                      And about the price of $ 70 to Europe - IT'S TRUE?
                      If true, then this is a serious mistake (or intentional crime). Allies should not be sold more expensive than enemies and neutrals.
                      1. -1
                        15 May 2020 08: 25
                        Lies along the way. The calculation is not able to use the Internet and receive information. Well I wrote in the comments the price tag of gas for Europe
                      2. 0
                        16 May 2020 11: 30
                        No, it's not true. This is another rhetoric in the style of Lukashenko
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUWi7raBGV4
                  2. +3
                    14 May 2020 16: 03
                    What nonsense ...
                    Sechins, Friedmans and Millers with suitcases of dough and buy everything and people will be driven out into the streets
                    - is that what you decided?
                    That's who exactly expels to the streets, so it's a dermocratic geyropa. They need to be afraid, not Russia. Ukraine is an example to you - see how the country was robbed and destroyed.
                    You either do not see the obvious because of the cereal in your head, or just a provocateur.
                    1. -6
                      14 May 2020 19: 17
                      Russia was robbed and the people were driven out into the street much earlier than Ukraine. And, quietly, without the Maidan. And this was done not by "Gayropa", but by the Russian authorities. so Lukashenka has something to fear.
                      1. +4
                        14 May 2020 20: 07
                        Quote: at84432384
                        Russia was robbed and driven out into the street

                        laughing laughing laughing Klats-klats-klats directly from the street or from the nearest Internet club, not otherwise. And in debt. Yes Or saved some bread. request
                  3. 0
                    14 May 2020 16: 46
                    Quote: Sektor
                    ..He asked for privileges from Russia for gas and so on, because his country would have been further poisoned, etc. for the deployment of military bases in Russia!

                    I suggest. Russia pays for gas supply to the Republic of Belarus ... laughing Agree on the amount of payment separately ... 45 dollars per thousand cubic meters laughing ... Or it will not be enough am
                  4. 0
                    15 May 2020 11: 23
                    Quote: Sektor
                    I understand him for Belarus, he is going through, the people do not live richly, but reliably ..

                    Nichrome you do not understand him. Money and power are his priorities. Caring for Belarus and Belarusians is somewhere in 10th place. And we pay for his ambitions. The money that we pour into Belarus could be spent on Russia, where there are a lot of problems. Money was given essentially for an integration project. But as a result, we slowly get a second Ukraine close by. And do not talk about our oligarchs. If tomorrow we stop subsidizing Belarus, Lukashenko will be forced to sell plants under much worse conditions to Chinese (and he is already there), American, European capital. Which quietly part of the factories will close and expel workers in the cold. I do not campaign for our capital, to me it is extremely disgusting. If I had the opportunity, I would multiply all of them by zero. But objectivity for the sake of it will be so.
              2. avg
                +8
                14 May 2020 16: 13
                But Belarusians and I are pitted with such articles and especially headlines for them ..
                Hold on to Lukashenko and do not trust our media .. Russia for the most part for you ..

                So Luke and pits his pearls. And then he will gather journalists, and Rygorych suffered ...
                In a word, do not confuse Luke with the people, and don’t sign for the whole of Russia, answer for yourself.
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            1. -35
              14 May 2020 14: 14
              Yes, no one contains anyone. The Belarusian people are our people and they have the same rights to resources as Russia, only Russian oligarchs profit from this and all that.
              Russia itself pushes away from itself and then yell through all channels in all throats, we are brothers !!
              1. +20
                14 May 2020 14: 22
                Why Belarus then sells its products to us at horse prices? A gas discount requires ...
                1. -11
                  14 May 2020 14: 26
                  Quote: purple
                  Why Belarus then sells its products to us at horse prices? A gas discount requires ...

                  well, well, maybe more in detail ??? ))) in those stores where I buy food, products from Belarus are 10-15-20 percent cheaper than local wassat
                  1. +8
                    14 May 2020 14: 27
                    Quote: Corona without virus
                    well, well, maybe more in detail ??? ))) in those stores where I buy food, products from Belarus are 10-15-20 percent cheaper than local

                    oh well ...
                    1. -13
                      14 May 2020 14: 28
                      Quote: purple
                      Quote: Corona without virus
                      well, well, maybe more in detail ??? ))) in those stores where I buy food, products from Belarus are 10-15-20 percent cheaper than local

                      oh well ...

                      go to your local five or a magnet - put the price tags here for local products and Belarusian - weakly ?! hi bully
                  2. +15
                    14 May 2020 16: 07
                    We have local sausage Krakowska from 420 to 500 rubles, and Belarusian 750 rubles.
                    1. -10
                      14 May 2020 16: 16
                      Quote: _Sergey_
                      We have local sausage Krakowska from 420 to 500 rubles, and Belarusian 750 rubles.

                      I don’t know about sausage - I buy it once a year on NG - I do not like it)))
                      as well as milk, cheese, butter, cottage cheese - definitely cheaper !!!
                      1. +4
                        14 May 2020 18: 36
                        people in Smolensk were not in magnets and dixy, but in Moscow and further east I will not argue there may be more expensive
                        1. -8
                          14 May 2020 20: 37
                          Quote: Ryaruav
                          people in Smolensk were not in magnets and dixy, but in Moscow and further east I will not argue there may be more expensive

                          Here he’s right back from the store, just for an example:
                          1 liter of milk from Brest - 78 rubles
                          1 liter of milk Prostokvashino - 98 rubles
                          180 g butter from Brest - 139 rubles
                          180 g of oil Prostokvashino - 169 rubles

                          etc
                        2. 0
                          14 May 2020 22: 30
                          Quote: Crown without virus
                          Quote: Ryaruav
                          people in Smolensk were not in magnets and dixy, but in Moscow and further east I will not argue there may be more expensive

                          Here he’s right back from the store, just for an example:
                          1 liter of milk from Brest - 78 rubles
                          1 liter of milk Prostokvashino - 98 rubles
                          180 g butter from Brest - 139 rubles
                          180 g of oil Prostokvashino - 169 rubles

                          etc

                          And are you sure it's milk and butter?
                        3. +1
                          14 May 2020 22: 31
                          Quote: non-primary
                          Quote: Crown without virus
                          Quote: Ryaruav
                          people in Smolensk were not in magnets and dixy, but in Moscow and further east I will not argue there may be more expensive

                          Here he’s right back from the store, just for an example:
                          1 liter of milk from Brest - 78 rubles
                          1 liter of milk Prostokvashino - 98 rubles
                          180 g butter from Brest - 139 rubles
                          180 g of oil Prostokvashino - 169 rubles

                          etc

                          And are you sure it's milk and butter?

                          ABSOLUTELY!!! drinks the taste of village milk and butter I have not forgotten so far ... hi
                        4. +2
                          14 May 2020 22: 37
                          Quote: non-primary
                          And are you sure it's milk and butter?

                          From Prostokvashino? No, not sure. sad
                        5. -4
                          14 May 2020 22: 44
                          Quote: mordvin xnumx
                          Quote: non-primary
                          And are you sure it's milk and butter?

                          From Prostokvashino? No, not sure. sad

                          When and if suddenly we stop selling Brest-Litovsk products, I will buy Prostokvashino products wassat the rest I tried - "vegetable oil bullshit" am
                        6. -1
                          17 May 2020 00: 09
                          Quote: Crown without virus
                          Quote: mordvin xnumx
                          Quote: non-primary
                          And are you sure it's milk and butter?

                          From Prostokvashino? No, not sure. sad

                          When and if suddenly we stop selling Brest-Litovsk products, I will buy Prostokvashino products wassat the rest I tried - "vegetable oil bullshit" am

                          Butter and milk Dubki is real! Milk has a shelf life of 7 days and it is real milk, not powdered, sour as expected ... butter is no worse than Brest of Lithuania.
                        7. 0
                          17 May 2020 02: 55
                          Quote: your1970
                          Quote: Crown without virus
                          Quote: mordvin xnumx
                          Quote: non-primary
                          And are you sure it's milk and butter?

                          From Prostokvashino? No, not sure. sad

                          When and if suddenly we stop selling Brest-Litovsk products, I will buy Prostokvashino products wassat the rest I tried - "vegetable oil bullshit" am

                          Butter and milk Dubki is real! Milk has a shelf life of 7 days and it is real milk, not powdered, sour as expected ... butter is no worse than Brest of Lithuania.

                          They don’t sell Oaks in our Pyaterochka - I can’t judge hi
                          And Brest-Litovsk - a shelf life of 14 days - and only the wife makes her buy milk when she makes pancakes - for others DO NOT sour so quickly)))
                        8. +3
                          14 May 2020 22: 56
                          Quote: mordvin xnumx
                          Quote: non-primary
                          And are you sure it's milk and butter?

                          From Prostokvashino? No, not sure. sad

                          Are you sure from Belarus? Let me remind you about shrimp from Belarus, other seafood, as well as apples that are harvested in Belarus an order of magnitude less than they are sold! And who told you that it was produced in Belarus? And let's say not brought from the Baltic states? And then packaged in containers with accessories to Belarus!
                        9. +2
                          15 May 2020 00: 17
                          Quote: non-primary
                          Let me remind you about shrimp from Belarus, other seafood, as well as apples that are harvested in Belarus by an order of magnitude less than they are sold!

                          Heh, we, in the Tula region, produce sprats.
                        10. +1
                          15 May 2020 01: 05
                          Quote: mordvin xnumx
                          Quote: non-primary
                          Let me remind you about shrimp from Belarus, other seafood, as well as apples that are harvested in Belarus by an order of magnitude less than they are sold!

                          Heh, we, in the Tula region, produce sprats.

                          I am happy for Tuliakov! For the residents of the Tula region!
                        11. 0
                          15 May 2020 01: 12
                          Quote: non-primary
                          I am happy for Tuliakov!

                          Yes, no. Sprats are so-so, to say the least. Some kind of beaten, but crumpled. It is not clear in which pond it was caught. laughing The boys caught the bleak on TV, and it looked better. crying
                        12. +3
                          15 May 2020 01: 30
                          Quote: Mordvin 3
                          Mordvin 3 (Vladimir) S

                          I don’t know how with bleak, but the vendace stocked up every year! Frankly speaking, smoked vendace, released in oil, is ... sprats are resting!
                        13. +2
                          15 May 2020 01: 40
                          Quote: non-primary
                          vendace stocked up every year!

                          We do not have it. But in principle, it differs little from bleak. Sunflower seeds. wink
                        14. -2
                          15 May 2020 13: 26
                          Quote: non-primary
                          Quote: mordvin xnumx
                          Quote: non-primary
                          And are you sure it's milk and butter?

                          From Prostokvashino? No, not sure. sad

                          Are you sure from Belarus? Let me remind you about shrimp from Belarus, other seafood, as well as apples that are harvested in Belarus an order of magnitude less than they are sold! And who told you that it was produced in Belarus? And let's say not brought from the Baltic states? And then packaged in containers with accessories to Belarus!

                          STOPUDOVO !!! hi I'm not a sucker - information trading is my main business bully (this is if you tell us very briefly and roughly what I can do best laughing )
                        15. -2
                          16 May 2020 11: 38
                          Quote: non-primary
                          Are you sure from Belarus? Let me remind you about shrimp from Belarus,
                          Belarus does not import a million tons per year of palm oil. wink And about the shrimp - already fed up with this argument. Banana is imported into Belarus through Russia, but no one blames us for this, right? This is the private trade of individual LLCs, OJSCs and ZAOs, and has nothing to do with the state. hi
                    2. -1
                      16 May 2020 11: 33
                      Quote: _Sergey_
                      local sausage Krakow from 420 to 500 rubles, and Belarusian 750 rubles.

                      Read the composition. wink Belarusian is almost always in accordance with GOST, and local - who is good for what. We have "Krakovskaya" from "Factory of Quality" according to GOST three times more expensive than similar according to TU. hi
                  3. +10
                    14 May 2020 18: 32
                    Quote: Corona without virus
                    well, well, maybe more in detail ??? )))

                    "But, by the way, our friends, manufacturers from Belarus, sell equipment on our market, and in large quantities, and Rostselmash cannot sell a single agricultural machine on the Belarusian market" - December 1919
                  4. +1
                    14 May 2020 22: 39
                    Belarusian cheese is more expensive than ours within 100 rubles, sausages 100-150 difference
                    1. -2
                      16 May 2020 11: 43
                      Quote: your1970
                      Belarusian cheese is more expensive than ours within 100 rubles, sausages 100-150 difference

                      A lie of pure water. When was the last time you were in the store?
                      In addition, it is not correct to compare cheese products with cheeses - Russia in 2019 imported a million (!) Tons of palm oil.
                      1. 0
                        16 May 2020 18: 28
                        Yesterday.
                        Cheese Black Knight (RB) 440 - our 350-370, our smoked sausage 500, Belarusian 600-670
                        1. 0
                          16 May 2020 20: 31
                          Quote: your1970
                          our 350-370

                          Is that ours? I was in Lenta yesterday, more or less quality cheese under 700 r. I don’t think that you Lambert equals parmesan and dor blue? wink What is cheaper is not entirely appropriate to call cheese, just read the composition.
                          Quote: your1970
                          Our smoked sausage 500, Belarusian 600-670

                          Read the composition again. Cheese smoked in accordance with GOST apiece passes the price. All that is cheaper from meat products of the tenth grade and chicken meat. And pay attention - all this is indicated on the label.
                          There is a catalog of tapes on the Internet, and there are some of the lowest prices in our city. request
                        2. -1
                          16 May 2020 20: 40
                          If the city of Moscow, then it’s quite understandable why the raw smoked chicken passes apiece. There can be 5 trumpets. Moreover, it can also be
                          Quote: Ingvar 72
                          meat products of the tenth grade and chicken meat.
                          .
                          In our province - there is no such mass sausage - it’s too expensive, they won’t take it ...
                          Given that we can take beef for 250 rubles a kilo- NOT rinse.
                        3. 0
                          17 May 2020 09: 55
                          Quote: your1970
                          If the city of Moscow

                          Tolyatti. High-quality uncooked smoked "Soviet" Syzran meat processing plant in accordance with GOST 1200 rubles. per kg. Uncooked smoked TU sausage product from "Dymov" or "Cherkizovskaya" in the region of 600-700.
                          Quote: your1970
                          we can take beef for 250 rubles a kilo

                          Breast with bone or ribs on the first - yes. Pulp 450-500.
                        4. -1
                          17 May 2020 10: 16
                          We discussed this issue regarding the delivery of meat. Togliatti is a very expensive city, even in Samara they take home meat in bulk much cheaper, Syzran is the poorest, they don’t give more than 180 ....
                          Look Dubki- quite decent sausages, butter and milk
                  5. 0
                    15 May 2020 06: 11
                    The addresses of these stores in the studio ................
                2. +13
                  14 May 2020 14: 32
                  Fiercely plus. As a direct representative of the Mogilev electric motor plant, we cannot get normal adequate prices to successfully compete with Chinese and "Russian" (Chinese) motors. They know that in Russia ... OPA because of quarantine, but take the grandmother and lay it out to them.
                  I am silent about the resale by the Old Man of everything Russian that Ukraine needs, that it cannot buy directly from Russia.
                3. +7
                  14 May 2020 15: 47
                  For horses it can also be at horse prices, but your products are cheaper than for those who produce them in Belarus.
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              2. +9
                14 May 2020 14: 31
                Quote: vavilon
                Yes, no one supports anyone. The Belarusian people are our people and they have the same rights to resources as Russia, that’s why only Russian oligarchs profit and that’s all


                What other oligarchs do we have raised the retirement age in Russia and raise taxes every year, why should I maintain a neighboring independent state from my taxes
                1. +8
                  14 May 2020 15: 48
                  Brother, we have raised the retirement age two years earlier than the air force ...
            2. +2
              14 May 2020 15: 43
              Quote: Humpbacked Horse
              Quote: cniza
              What did you mean? can be more detailed ...


              $ 100 billion hidden account: how Russia contains the Belarusian economy
              https://www.rbc.ru/economics/02/04/2017/58e026879a79471d6c8aef30

              Bulk reported? Yes, and so much enthusiasm from this fake .. So keep the Libereons negative Lukashenko probably went nuts from such amounts in his pocket ..))))
          3. +7
            14 May 2020 18: 24
            Quote: cniza
            What did you mean? can be more detailed ...

            I will offer you the details:
            There is such a parameter:
            USD / MMBtu - the price of 1 million British thermal units in US dollars.
            This determines the price of gas.
            To date (14.05.2020/1/000), 000 BTU was quoted at $ 1,6777. Based on the calculation that 1 m ³ of natural gas contains 35 BTU, you can calculate the price for 000 m ³. She is approximately $ 1000. You can count yourself:
            1 1: 000 000 = 35, 000 28
            2, 28 m³ cost $ 5714
            1000 m³ - x
            3.x = 1,6777 x 1000: 28,5714 = 58, $ 7195
            Thus, today it was possible to buy gas at $ 58,7195 per 1000 m³.
            Now decide for yourself how Mr. Miller solves personal problems. Or are you sure that he eats up the last piece of horseradish without salt, and Gazprom is a national treasure, like the Power of Siberia and other troubles? I can say for sure that this manager will not pay Naftogaz $ 2,918 billion.
        2. +5
          14 May 2020 14: 14
          Yeah! We sell to Europe for 70, and to Belarus we give for 127! Logic, die and not get up!
          1. +19
            14 May 2020 15: 00
            Of course, I may have looked in the wrong direction, but GAZ goes to Europe on long-term contracts, as I understand it, and I found a price of 210 euros, but not 70 at all .... That is, it’s more tangible than in Belarus. Lukashenko’s statement for whom then is calculated?
        3. +5
          14 May 2020 18: 08
          skate
          You did not understand. In its simplicity, Lukashenko announced the conditions of competition in European markets. In addition to the Lukashenko clan in Belarus, there are simply NO other oligarchs, so this is a scream in the style of Panikovsky - * give a million, give a million *.
          If you believe European publications, there, in Belarus, the regime is set to * dad duvalier * with * death squads * and other * charms * of the privatized state.
          And can Belarusians be decent without financial injections?
          What kind of blackmail is this alliance with NATO, or what the hell knows what?
          And then they are surprised that they are considered parasites.
      2. -5
        14 May 2020 13: 26
        So what? It’s not a pity for Belarusians. You might think this is the personal gas of the people of Russia. We also have it for the money.
        1. +11
          14 May 2020 13: 58
          Quote: Civil
          It’s not a pity for Belarusians.

          sorry / not sorry these are not categories of state trade: everything should be under the contract.

          Otherwise, what is the criterion?
          1. -14
            14 May 2020 14: 10
            Quote: Olgovich
            Quote: Civil
            It’s not a pity for Belarusians.

            sorry / not sorry these are not categories of state trade: everything should be under the contract.

            Otherwise, what is the criterion?


            It is clear, also from effective optimizers) saving on the people, now in Belarusian)
            1. 0
              14 May 2020 14: 13
              He is from the monarchists, they are in close connection with capital
              1. -6
                14 May 2020 14: 14
                Quote: Kronos
                He is from the monarchists, they are in close connection with capital


                Such and their deceased mother, the price tag to hell will be sent for weeding her grave.
            2. +31
              14 May 2020 14: 15
              Quote: Civil
              It is clear, also from effective optimizers) saving on the people, now in Belarusian)

              And why should Russia contain an independent sovereign state, which also does not support Russia?
              And so already at 6 billion dollars a year in Belarus pumped. And in response to what?
              1. +2
                14 May 2020 14: 22
                Quote: Alexey RA
                Quote: Civil
                It is clear, also from effective optimizers) saving on the people, now in Belarusian)

                And why should Russia contain an independent sovereign state, which also does not support Russia?
                And so already at 6 billion dollars a year in Belarus pumped. And in response to what?


                Not Russia, but Gazprom. Gas benefits for the Russian population are also not provided.
                1. +14
                  14 May 2020 14: 30
                  Quote: Civil
                  Not Russia, but Gazprom.

                  Half Russia. smile
                  And why should the PJSC support a foreign state, losing profits on this (and its state will lose taxes)?
                  Quote: Civil
                  Gas benefits for the population of Russia are also not provided.

                  That is, in the end, Belarus will be supported at the expense of Russian citizens.
              2. +13
                14 May 2020 14: 23
                And in response to what?
                Let's!!!
              3. -15
                14 May 2020 14: 30
                Quote: Alexey RA
                Quote: Civil
                It is clear, also from effective optimizers) saving on the people, now in Belarusian)

                And why should Russia contain an independent sovereign state, which also does not support Russia?
                And so already at 6 billion dollars a year in Belarus pumped. And in response to what?

                And in response, in the Gomel region, for example, they DO NOT stand in the place of "mothballed" points since the times of the USSR, persings)))
                1. +15
                  14 May 2020 14: 46
                  Quote: Corona without virus
                  And in response, in the Gomel region, for example, they DO NOT stand in the place of "mothballed" points since the times of the USSR, persings)))

                  And what, 6 billion evergreens annually is not enough for this?

                  In general, a cool fraternal state is obtained: drive money, brother, otherwise I'll bring a neighbor with a gun.
                  1. -10
                    14 May 2020 15: 04
                    Quote: Alexey RA
                    Quote: Corona without virus
                    And in response, in the Gomel region, for example, they DO NOT stand in the place of "mothballed" points since the times of the USSR, persings)))

                    And what, 6 billion evergreens annually is not enough for this?

                    In general, a cool fraternal state is obtained: drive money, brother, otherwise I'll bring a neighbor with a gun.

                    but when you hire an army or hire guards there, you tell them - in general, you are on your own, live what you want - but whatever my safety would suffer from this ?! bully
                    1. +12
                      14 May 2020 16: 27
                      Quote: Corona without virus
                      but when you hire an army or hire guards there, you tell them - in general, you are on your own, live what you want - but whatever my safety would suffer from this ?!

                      And someone hired someone? Or some private security company began to demand weapons and money on the grounds that he supposedly protects us. At the same time, there is no agreement with the private security company, his head, in response to all requests, says that his office is independent and sovereign, and that his "client" has no money. no brains.
                      1. -9
                        14 May 2020 16: 30
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        but when you hire an army or hire guards there, you tell them - in general, you are on your own, live what you want - but whatever my safety would suffer from this ?!

                        And someone hired someone? Or some private security company began to demand weapons and money on the grounds that he supposedly protects us. At the same time, there is no agreement with the private security company, his head, in response to all requests, says that his office is independent and sovereign, and that his "client" has no money. no brains.

                        Have you even seen a map of the European part of Russia in your eyes? Belarus - the last bastion in front of NATO
                        1. -1
                          15 May 2020 10: 33
                          Quote: Corona without virus
                          Have you even seen a map of the European part of Russia in your eyes? Belarus - the last bastion in front of NATO

                          This bastion is a gate in the open field. Russia has a border with NATO countries, which is 130 km from the country's second largest city and 580 km from the capital.
                        2. 0
                          15 May 2020 13: 29
                          Quote: Alexey RA
                          Quote: Corona without virus
                          Have you even seen a map of the European part of Russia in your eyes? Belarus - the last bastion in front of NATO

                          This bastion is a gate in the open field. Russia has a border with NATO countries, which is 130 km from the country's second largest city and 580 km from the capital.

                          But why did every third inhabitant die in the Second World War in this "open field", giving the USSR the opportunity to accumulate strength and erase the Third Reich into dust hi
                    2. avg
                      +13
                      14 May 2020 16: 30
                      Do you even think "guard" what you write. I wanted to explain in an accessible way, but decided not to offend. So culturally - the Belarusian army CANNOT defend one of the two strongest armies in the world. So everything is exactly the opposite, with the only difference that we do not demand money from you.
                      1. -7
                        14 May 2020 16: 33
                        Quote: avg
                        Do you even think "guard" what you write. I wanted to explain in an accessible way, but decided not to offend. So culturally - the Belarusian army CANNOT defend one of the two strongest armies in the world. So everything is exactly the opposite, with the only difference that we do not demand money from you.

                        1. I’m generally Russian and live in the near Moscow region
                        2. As for me - let the perching be based in Poland than 800 km from my house bully
                        1. avg
                          +14
                          14 May 2020 16: 42
                          The Pershing are not based in Europe, not because Luca is so scary. but because Russia stands behind it with all its might. There is such a concept - "Nuclear Umbrella". So the one over whom he is deployed pays, and only Luke wants the opposite. If Russia had not covered him, then he, as "the last dictator", would have been for breakfast long ago.
                        2. -8
                          14 May 2020 16: 51
                          Quote: avg
                          The Pershing are not based in Europe, not because Luca is so scary. but because Russia stands behind it with all its might. There is such a concept - "Nuclear Umbrella". So the one over whom he is deployed pays, and only Luke wants the opposite. If Russia had not covered him, then he, as "the last dictator", would have been for breakfast long ago.

                          Please, re-read what you yourself wrote, and express your thoughts differently, because you contradict yourself in each message wink
                        3. avg
                          +7
                          14 May 2020 17: 02
                          I explain for the last time - Russia has an umbrella. She fraternally let Belarus take shelter there from the rain, and the blue-eyed woman demands money for that.
                        4. -1
                          14 May 2020 17: 19
                          Quote: avg
                          I explain for the last time - Russia has an umbrella. She fraternally let Belarus take shelter there from the rain, and the blue-eyed woman demands money for that.

                          Then answer why in the Orags, from which the fraternal people protect Russia, gas is sold cheaper? belay
                        5. +7
                          14 May 2020 16: 45
                          Quote: Corona without virus
                          As for me - let the perching be based in Poland than 800 km from my house

                          They don’t pay 800 lard for basing the pershing 6 km from your home, and create problems incompatible with a normal existence, as for Ukraine ...
                          For 6 lard annually, our Iskander should stand there on a permanent and free basis ...
            3. -2
              14 May 2020 14: 20
              Quote: Civil
              It is clear, also from effective optimizers

              Olgych then? He is still a "Russophile", an adherent of the Holodomor.
            4. +8
              14 May 2020 14: 49
              Quote: Civil
              It is clear, also from effective optimizers) saving on the people, now in Belarusian)

              who is YOU personally, a sufferer for the people, interfering with helping Belarusians from YOUR pocket?
              1. -5
                14 May 2020 15: 03
                Quote: Olgovich
                who is YOU personally, a sufferer for the people, interfering with helping Belarusians from YOUR pocket?

                From our POCKET we all pay to Gazprom, including your work here. The Russian people are in the same position as the Belarusian, only for us there is no one to ask Gazprom for a discount.
                1. +1
                  14 May 2020 15: 50
                  Quote: Civil
                  From your POCKET We all pay to Gazprom

                  Again "we". request

                  1. help the fraternal people a concrete denyuzhku push!

                  2. Create a petition to the Government of the Russian Federation demanding a reduction in the price of gas for it.

                  3. Inform later, how many millions have subscribed to it. Yes
                  !
                  Quote: Civil
                  From our POCKET we all pay to Gazprom, including and your work is here.


                  Fir-trees! And then I ... request

                  WHERE TO GET ?! belay
                  1. 0
                    14 May 2020 18: 46
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Again "we".

                    1. Help the fraternal people a concrete denyuzhku from yourself!

                    2. Create a petition to the Government of the Russian Federation demanding a reduction in the price of gas for it.

                    3. Inform later, how many millions have subscribed to it.

                    And when "you" debts of $ 120 were written off by "you" created a petition, or how did you figure it out yourself? Something I did not see the government’s petition for the allocation of 000 rubles for additional capitalization of banks ...
                    Mu ... Mi ... Mo ...
                    About such people they just said that for 300% ...
                    You would take into account the tone of Lukashenko and the situation of the republic. And then you are presenting us with the request of the President of Belarus, as an ultimatum.
                    We all understand that it is simply living for those millions who have 12 per month. And those few who work (so that there is no temptation to “drop everything and leave us with our gas fields”) only for millions of dividends live “difficult and difficult”.
                    A drop in hydrocarbon prices does not fit into your theory. Does not dock in any way. Either horns, or hooves, or a tail, or a nickle stick out from everywhere ...
                    But Belarus must be pressed. So to strangle, to make it easier for the soul ... To avenge them on the parade held in honor of the 75th anniversary of the Great Victory ...
                    And then we wonder where all the friends went. The country is crammed with only “partners”.
                    1. -2
                      15 May 2020 07: 28
                      Quote: ROSS 42
                      And when "you" debts of $ 120 were written off by "you" created a petition, or how did you figure it out yourself?

                      so get them YOU if capable such.

                      And transfer from YOUR pension - to the support of friends, WHO is in the way, I ask again?
                      Quote: ROSS 42
                      You would take into account the tone of Lukashenko and the situation of the republic.

                      And who will take into account the situation in Russia? Lukashenko-account? Maybe Crimea recognized for those dozens of Billion dollars that were actually donated to him?
                      Quote: ROSS 42
                      A drop in hydrocarbon prices does not fit into your theory. Does not dock in any way. Either horns, or hooves, or a tail, or a nickle stick out from everywhere ...

                      Everything fits. Do not like it, go around the market, look for cheaper.

                      Better let the horns stick out than stupidity
                      Quote: ROSS 42
                      But Belarus must be pressed. So to strangle, to make it easier for the soul ... To avenge them on the parade held in honor of the 75th anniversary of the Great Victory ...

                      What nonsense, what kind of revenge "? belay

                      a gamble with endangering the health of tens of thousands of involuntary, subordinate people - let it remain on the conscience of Lukashenka, a PR man, a zealot of the "parade tradition", which, however, did not exist for 50 years in total,
                      1. 0
                        16 May 2020 11: 51
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        so get them YOU if capable such.

                        This is not a reason to forgive them. Hanging and hanging.
          2. -6
            14 May 2020 14: 19
            Quote: Olgovich
            sorry / not sorry this is not a category of state trade: everything should be on a contract basis.
            Does Olgych suspect about preferences for union countries?
            1. +28
              14 May 2020 14: 32
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Does Olgych suspect about preferences for union countries?

              And what is the alliance of Belarus?
              In that, receiving $ 6 billion a year, her leadership responds to any requests from Russia with the standard mantra about inadmissibility of external pressure on a sovereign independent state? wink
              1. +15
                14 May 2020 15: 01
                Absolutely right....
              2. -6
                14 May 2020 18: 56
                Quote: Alexey RA
                And what is the alliance of Belarus?
                Is it that, receiving $ 6 billion a year, its leadership answers any requests from Russia with the standard mantra about the inadmissibility of external pressure on a sovereign independent state?

                They slipped a training manual for you, or are you just lying in the selfless devotion of the party ("Edru") and the government of public trust?
                Really. It turns out that they are so overgrown ... Allocating to Belarus $ 6 billion, the Russian authorities calculated that the minimum wage in Russia should be 12 rubles a month, and in order to earn a pension, it would be necessary to refine it to 130 years. And then something the pressure of the population on the sovereign government has increased. Taxes, fines, coronavirus do not take them ... And these beggar neighbors defeated ...
                Billions of money are stolen, burned in boozes and orgies, taken offshore, distributed in the form of bonuses and surcharges, and then they decided to make an accurate calculation ... wassat So with us, Kudrin does it. You are not from his department?
                1. -1
                  15 May 2020 10: 40
                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  They slipped a training manual for you, or are you just lying in the selfless devotion of the party ("Edru") and the government of public trust?

                  I quote an interview with the Russian ambassador to Belarus, Babich, after which the Belarusian Foreign Ministry became hysterical, called the ambassador an accountant, but did not refute a single figure of him.
                  Quote: ROSS 42
                  Really. It turns out that they are so overgrown ... Allocating to Belarus $ 6 billion, the Russian authorities calculated that the minimum wage in Russia should be 12 rubles a month, and in order to earn a pension, it would be necessary to refine it to 130 years. And then something the pressure of the population on the sovereign government has increased. Taxes, fines, coronavirus do not take them ... And these beggar neighbors defeated ...

                  Essentially have something to say? On what basis should Russia finance an independent sovereign state that refuses all requests for support? With the same success, you can sponsor Georgia or Ukraine.
                  1. 0
                    16 May 2020 11: 53
                    Quote: Alexey RA
                    I quote an interview with the Russian ambassador to Belarus, Babich, after which the Belarusian Foreign Ministry became hysterical, called the ambassador an accountant, but did not refute a single figure of him.

                    Is there a link to reliable figures voiced by Babich?
            2. +13
              14 May 2020 14: 54
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Does Olgych suspect about preferences for union countries?

              preference from his pockets independent a state that has many tens of billions of dollars of preferences from Russia, but even does not recognize Crimea.

              they would pay. like Germany and so on. flew into the pipe with its economic "miracle" that survived on the neck of Russia
              1. -7
                14 May 2020 15: 36
                Yes, of course, Germany in NATO for Olgych is much closer than Belarus.
              2. -3
                14 May 2020 15: 44
                Quote: Olgovich
                Prefer independent states from your pocket

                Personally, I pay all taxes as a citizen of Russia. It is of course somewhat naive, but I would like to somehow influence the money that I gave to the state. And what is Olgych, who is he? Does this Russophobe pay Russian taxes?
      3. -13
        14 May 2020 14: 49
        The last fascists gas for $ 70.
        Allies, brothers with whom they fought and won at 127 dollars, are almost 2 times more expensive.
        And still demand - do not dare to be indignant.
        What's this? Who will like this?
        1. +12
          14 May 2020 16: 24
          The mustachioed rich technician once again confuses the price of small volumes on the spot for "everyone" and large volumes on long-term contracts, which by the way are also take-or-pay. And he deliberately keeps silent about the cost of transportation. In general, let him not whine about discounts, but walk around the market and buy cheaper if he is so smart.
    2. +12
      14 May 2020 13: 22
      already tired but father
      1. -9
        14 May 2020 13: 33
        Quote: Barmaleyka
        already tired but father

        laughing Yes, he was just beginning to kick the greedy Kremlin redneck. Oil is already buying from the Saudis ... winked
        1. +8
          14 May 2020 14: 05
          Quote: DEPHIHTO
          Yes, he was just beginning to kick the greedy Kremlin redneck. Oil is already buying from the Saudis ...

          So after all, according to the logic of Fatherland, one must be indignant and demand purchasing in Russia fellow
    3. +22
      14 May 2020 13: 28
      Under European contracts, the price of gas is tied to oil prices. When we agreed on a price with Belarus, this moment was not taken into account. So why complain right now? You can understand Lukashenko, but they signed a contract. Didn’t you read it? Or did not provide such situevina? Cho is now to blame, it is necessary ask about the decline. not the feelings about Victory Day.
      1. +20
        14 May 2020 14: 51
        This not a good person said that the war was a Russian war, and the Belarusians were affected. So what the hell did he suddenly think of the war?
        He is not a gypsy for an hour? Or an Indian? It cannot be determined either with the war, or with the terms of the gas contract, or with the union state.
    4. +15
      14 May 2020 13: 29
      I remember there were times when Ukrainians paid less for gas than Russians, so to speak
    5. +8
      14 May 2020 13: 30
      If only I did not have to pay extra, as in the Odessa joke.
    6. -4
      14 May 2020 13: 30
      Not a day without Belarus.
      Actively traded. And moreover personally, without any Sects and Millers ...
      And this can be a plus for him ....
      1. +6
        14 May 2020 14: 25
        Quote: Max1995
        Actively traded.

        hi
        Cheating and blackmail under patriotic sauce before the election in Belarus. By the way, another pretender appeared for an armchair with a sweet surname Victor Babariko, laden with Alexander Grygorich:
        1. +1
          14 May 2020 17: 00
          Yes to sneeze.
          Old Man and 3 years ago, so bargained, without any elections ....
          Shrimp, promezan, engine repair of different ....
    7. +6
      14 May 2020 13: 38
      According to Belarusian media, in May negotiations between the parties on new gas prices may take place.
      I think that it’s a good time to raise the issue of a Russian military base on Belarusian soil again. So to speak, check the clock by military CSTO unit.
      1. +13
        14 May 2020 15: 03
        But father I remember with the air base sent far a couple of times. We only have Vileyka there, and then there are a bunch of civil servants of citizens of the Republic of Belarus.
      2. +4
        14 May 2020 15: 55
        The answer will be simple - there will be no new ones, the radar and communication center are likely to remain so as not to escalate the situation.
    8. -6
      14 May 2020 13: 39
      We probably have a lot more fraternal Slavic countries - allies who can cover us in the first battle, and generally stand shoulder to shoulder. What is so, it is possible to sell gas at a higher price, the main thing is to tear off a pretty penny, these are not Western capitalists who imposed sanctions on us.
      1. +20
        14 May 2020 13: 58
        Quote: Sibiryak 66
        who can cover us in the first battle, and generally stand shoulder to shoulder


        You are a little behind life and think in the past. Of those Belarusians with whom you have to work, and these are young people from 25 years old, they have no thoughts about any fraternal Slavic peoples, moreover, many young people in Belarus have a map of the Pole, and they look they are in Europe, and they openly chuckle at Russia, they say they will always help and give money, they will not go anywhere
        1. +1
          14 May 2020 14: 59
          And what to look at us if we push them from ourselves. You didn’t notice that as soon as we quarreled around oil, the Americans instantly declared that they would help Belarusians in solving their problems. Well, let's push them away, the Americans will take our place, we the Warsaw Pact countries have miscalculated what we got? American bases. Let’s now go to the principle (although the principle of selling to Belarusians more expensive than to Europe is somehow very doubtful), we get a second Ukraine and NATO bases on the border. Will it be easier? But we will observe the principle. Sometimes for the sake of politics it is necessary to seek compromises in the economy.
          1. +6
            14 May 2020 15: 10
            Quote: Sibiryak 66
            Well, let's push them away, the Americans will take our place,


            There is no our place there, I repeat, the youth of Belarus looks to the West, Russia for them, only a temporary cash cow

            MEPs supported agreements on visa facilitation and readmission with Belarus. For Belarusians, short-term visas will become cheaper, and applications will be considered faster.
            The European Parliament recommended that the EU conclude two agreements with Belarus: on simplifying the issuance of visas and on readmission of persons staying without permission. For the first document at a plenary meeting in Brussels on Wednesday, May 13, 634 European deputies voted, 48 were MPs against, abstained - 4. The readmission agreement was supported by 560 European MPs, 117 voted against and 13 abstained. This was reported by the DW correspondent.
            1. +2
              14 May 2020 15: 15
              And didn’t you think that this Europe has seized Belarus and is rightly pouring gifts? Is it good? Or pragmatic?
            2. +4
              14 May 2020 15: 16
              Quote: Humpbacked Horse
              There is no our place there, I repeat, the youth of Belarus looks to the West, Russia for them, only a temporary cash cow

              A familiar pattern, and on the outskirts was with panties .. And who are they now? There is nothing from the former USSR, I mean industry and other high-tech industrial enterprises of industrial activity .. Some goats are safe from tormented processions in Kiev and blood is pouring in the Donbass .. AND EVERYTHING! Do you want the same in Belarus? Oh well..
            3. +2
              14 May 2020 17: 34
              Quote: Humpbacked Horse
              There is no our place there, I repeat, the youth of Belarus looks to the West, Russia for them, only a temporary cash cow
              But is the Russian Federation somehow trying to attract neighbors? Or should Belarusians try for her?

              Quote: Humpbacked Horse
              MEPs support visa facilitation and readmission agreements with Belarus

              Memory tablet: On June 1, 2007, the “Agreement on the simplification of the visa regime between the Russian Federation and the EU” entered into force. Horrible!
      2. +19
        14 May 2020 14: 19
        Quote: Sibiryak 66
        We probably have a lot more fraternal Slavic countries - allies who can cover us in the first battle, and generally stand shoulder to shoulder.

        All these wars are not our wars. © AHL
        And I still don’t remember how the head of the Belarusian Foreign Ministry laid a wreath in Tbilisi at the monument to Georgians. killed in Abkhazia and South Ossetia "for the independence of Georgia."
        1. -11
          14 May 2020 14: 33
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Quote: Sibiryak 66
          We probably have a lot more fraternal Slavic countries - allies who can cover us in the first battle, and generally stand shoulder to shoulder.

          All these wars are not our wars. © AHL
          And I still don’t remember how the head of the Belarusian Foreign Ministry laid a wreath in Tbilisi at the monument to Georgians. killed in Abkhazia and South Ossetia "for the independence of Georgia."

          For some reason, Lukashenka HELD a parade in honor of the 75th anniversary of OUR victory - and we "merged"
          1. +6
            14 May 2020 14: 46
            Only for some reason you do not have any questions about such versatile behavior.
          2. +5
            14 May 2020 14: 59
            But because he is smart, unlike Ukrainian figures. They decided to slam the door loudly for which they got it, and Lukashenko is cunning, he does not refuse Soviet ideology. And in Russia, for some reason, many still believe that everyone who is for the USSR is for them. But this has long been wrong.
            1. +4
              14 May 2020 19: 09
              Quote: soloveyav
              while Lukashenko is cunning, he does not refuse Soviet ideology. And in Russia, for some reason, many still believe that everyone who is for the USSR is for them. But this has long been wrong.

              This ideology for modern Belarus is nothing more than a sham. Belarus today is the same capitalist state as we are. Extremely dubious statement. If only because modern Belarus is not for the USSR. They have a sluggish drift to Lithuania in the interests of maintaining power and capital.
              1. +3
                14 May 2020 19: 17
                And I do not deny, this is just a cover with a hint of nostalgia + gives the votes of pensioners and moral support from the Russian Communists)))
          3. +4
            14 May 2020 15: 08
            I watched the Victory Parade in Minsk in the 19th year.
            Lukashenko, dressed in military uniform, at first saluted, but after a few minutes he dropped his hand.
            I don’t know, but it personally seems to me that it would be better if I didn’t raise it at all, and if you still salute, then hold your hand until the end of the parade. And then somehow solid.
            This year until the end gave?
            1. +4
              14 May 2020 16: 20
              There was no parade on Victory Day in 19, the parade was held on July 3 on the Day of the Liberation of Minsk from Nazi invaders.
              1. +5
                14 May 2020 16: 54
                Obviously, you are right. I apologize for the inaccurately indicated event.
                1. +1
                  14 May 2020 21: 43
                  Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                  Obviously, you are right. I apologize for the inaccurately indicated event.

                  okay, drove through ...
      3. +9
        14 May 2020 16: 36
        Our allies are the army and the navy. And all these "fraternal", they are not allies, they do not even pull on mercenaries, because the mercenaries at least work off their pay. And not brothers, what kind of brothers they are to us with blackmail like "give me money just like that, or else I'll go to NATO." There are such "brothers" in Peru. Independence is an expensive thing today.
    9. +1
      14 May 2020 13: 47
      In early April of this year, he proposed that Moscow reduce the cost of gas to $ 40-45 per thousand cubic meters and thereby help the republic in the fight against coronavirus infection.

      Well, well done. And tell me or my relatives who will help in connection with the coronary crisis? We must probably too clink Putin.
      1. -9
        14 May 2020 14: 35
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        In early April of this year, he proposed that Moscow reduce the cost of gas to $ 40-45 per thousand cubic meters and thereby help the republic in the fight against coronavirus infection.

        Well, well done. And tell me or my relatives who will help in connection with the coronary crisis? We must probably too clink Putin.

        You are for Putin "nobody can call you any" - sorry !!! I am the same for Putin laughing
    10. +3
      14 May 2020 13: 49
      According to him, Moscow sells gas to Europe at $ 70 per thousand cubic meters, while for Belarus gas is still sold at $ 127 per thousand cubic meters, and this happens in the year of the 75th anniversary of the Victory in World War II.

      In relation to the fraternal people, one must be fair, and even more so in difficult years. Of course, prices for Belarus should be less than for Europe.
      1. +17
        14 May 2020 14: 05
        And Belarus for Russia? Or is it based on the principle that yours is ours, and that mine is mine? And what other fraternity under capitalism? All our relations with Belarus show this. Maybe enough already engage in nonsense with these constructions of the union states? And then how much money is needed right away we are building a union state and one people. And how we received the money right away we are an independent state and great lithuania.
        1. +4
          14 May 2020 18: 31
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          And what other fraternity under capitalism? All our relations with Belarus show this.

          --------------------------------------------
          So here many are pushing for a contract with Gazprom, which Old Man can easily overturn in any European court due to the monopoly of this contract. That is, for commercial relations. Then what does "brotherhood" have to do with it? And if "brotherhood", then it will be necessary to supply gas at some other price tag. In general, in such a situation, Old Man can easily shake off $ 3 billion from Gazprom and it will be quite "brotherly". Russia has driven itself into such a corner now. How else to explain that it is necessary to lower the gas price to him, I do not know. The contract is, everything is spelled out. But the same contract can easily and simply be shoved into one place for Gazprom, if proceedings begin in the European court prescribed in the contract.
    11. -6
      14 May 2020 13: 51
      In principle, Lukashenko is right! Apparently, Putin did this out of kinship. They do the same with Russian motorists, on the principle of “hit your own, so that strangers are afraid.”
    12. +7
      14 May 2020 13: 52
      DEDPIHTO
      Oil is already buying from the Saudis ...
      And what is cheaper? What Belarusian "port" do the tankers come to? Or by air?
      1. +3
        14 May 2020 14: 22
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Or airplanes?
        It should be just an epic low-cost airline. laughing
    13. -10
      14 May 2020 13: 52
      For Belarus, in the first place, the price of energy should be as in the domestic market of Russia
      1. +12
        14 May 2020 14: 22
        Quote: vavilon
        For Belarus, in the first place, the price of energy should be as in the domestic market of Russia

        Only after the entry of Belarus into Russia. What the AHL does not want - and constantly talks about the unacceptability of such a step.
        One fraternal state we have already sponsored cheap gas.
        Empire learned a lesson. Empire thanks!
        1. -8
          14 May 2020 14: 47
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Only after the entry of Belarus into Russia. What the AHL does not want - and constantly talks about the unacceptability of such a step.
          We have already sponsored one fraternal state with cheap gas.

          Lukashenko was the only one of the former who managed to keep the state-owned enterprises inherited from the USSR and working well .. When reunited with Russia, "our oligarchy" will simply bankrupt these enterprises .. That's why Old Man is worried, not for power .. By the way, if he took part in the elections of the head of Russia , he would have a great chance to win the election .. I'm sure of it! Of course, Putin raised Russia quite well, but he is too connected with his friends, Fridamn, etc. Well you get the idea, guys wink
          1. +8
            14 May 2020 15: 01
            Quote: Sektor
            Lukashenko is the only one of those who managed to keep state-owned enterprises inherited from the USSR and not bad at work

            The price and sponsor of this conservation was announced by Ambassador Babic. smile
            1. -1
              14 May 2020 19: 25
              I wonder how long it will last. Logically, the further we fall into the crisis, the more acute will be the struggle for markets. We will no longer have money to help the advanced Belarusian economy. And fraternal Belarusians in this situation are not particularly interesting to us. The union state is naturally covered with a copper basin.
          2. +1
            14 May 2020 17: 56
            Still, the enterprises did not work with the annual "fraternal" gratuitous aid of 6 billion dollars .... Just think about the figure - 6 billion per 9 million of the population. And what will these enterprises do with their products, in the absence of the Russian Federation at hand? THE WEIGHT? Is it there?
    14. -1
      14 May 2020 14: 18
      They bring up little brothers ... Or take revenge.
    15. +3
      14 May 2020 14: 31
      Quote: Corona without virus
      go to your local five or a magnet - put the price tags here for local products and Belarusian - weakly ?! hi

      let's get you started, and I will support
    16. +3
      14 May 2020 14: 36
      If he continues to be his long tongue, to chat then the gas in general, will be turned off. Balabol is irresponsible.
    17. lot
      +3
      14 May 2020 14: 38
      Exploitation of the theme of victory ... again.
      The contract, therefore, the deer signed.
    18. +11
      14 May 2020 14: 39
      According to him, Moscow sells gas to Europe at $ 70 per thousand cubic meters, while for Belarus gas is still sold at $ 127 per thousand cubic meters, and this happens in the year of the 75th anniversary of the Victory in the Great Patriotic War.

      Years fly by, and he remained at the level of the political officer of the tank company. Sewing epaulettes of marshals is not a problem; the problem is worthy of reaching them.
      Trying to remember which of the modern presidents puts on a marshal’s uniform in parades? Only Africans come to mind. fool
    19. -2
      14 May 2020 14: 47
      Formally, Butska is right, if it’s a market, then let it be a market. Because 127 versus 70 somehow, hmm, it will be bold. On the other hand, let Old Man supply himself with a reverse or a spot somehow, if he doesn’t need our hydrocarbons. By and large, I am for the Old Man, because Miller does not have any sense to feed these 57 differences.
      1. +8
        14 May 2020 15: 15
        Formally, he is rather wrong, because there is such a thing as a contract on the market. For example, if you entered into an agreement for the supply of spare parts and tomorrow they have fallen in price, you still have to pay as much as is written. Of course, you can terminate the contract, but it may include, for example, a penalty for early termination, which you must pay. But in order to avoid such problems, negotiators signing a contract need forecasting in order to understand what is beneficial and what is not. And if you have already made a mistake, you need to either ask the other side to change the conditions or comply with the contract until the end. But from the point of view of justice, there may already be options that depend on the political orientation of the evaluator))).
        1. 0
          14 May 2020 15: 28
          Quote: soloveyav
          Formally, he is rather wrong, because there is such a thing as a contract on the market.

          -----------------------------
          I made all these reservations in my comment, but everyone reads what they read in my comment. This is the first thing. Second, we seem to be within the framework of the Union State, where such things can be solved in a political, not commercial way, but for some reason you ignore such a thing. Then let's consider Belarus, or rather not even her, but a commercial counterparty (Beltransgaz or whoever I don’t know) of Gazprom is just a party to the contract. And Belarus itself, already as a state, will simply be considered an outside state like Poland, otherwise why then the "negotiators" you mentioned? Negotiators are needed when there are no diplomatic ties, and we have a whole state, supposedly one.
          1. +5
            14 May 2020 15: 39
            Negotiators are always needed, because the contract is concluded for a reason. This is a document with a bunch of points, which is studied before being signed by both parties, in the process of which corrections are made to it by agreement of the parties. Another thing is that negotiators are not always engaged in this, but whatever you call the essence is the same. And political decisions are possible, but they are still usually drawn up within the framework of the same documents. And the state is not one (and we have different passports and money, and as it turned out, there is a border, and we have our own foreign policy and a bunch of nuances in Belarus), but formally union which in theory should become one as a result of the implementation of road maps and etc.
            1. +1
              14 May 2020 16: 45
              Quote: soloveyav
              Negotiators are always needed, because the contract is concluded for a reason. This is a document with a bunch of points, which is studied before being signed by both parties, in the process of which corrections are made to it by agreement of the parties.

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              Yes, they are not needed if we have a Union State, even formally. Then, in Batka's place, I will simply go to the Stockholm arbitration tribunal and Gazprom will be stupidly bent as a monopolist without any of your negotiators. I am ratifying the so-called Third Energy Package or some other common European documents and adieu. I mean, maybe Old Man is a blackmailer, but with such a policy he will become even further away from our so-called "state". And in the contract, you can make corrections in the course of the play, like 70% of the average market price, subject to zero point and tenths of the transit price by direct negotiations.
              1. +2
                14 May 2020 16: 57
                But Gazprom will stupidly cut off supplies and we will - we will freeze, Russia will transport gas bypassing. Belarus has huge image problems, and so they don’t want to give new loans, so let’s start not to abide by the contracts, and there are enough problems. Especially for Belarusian citizens, the price will not change. Well, I would ask in a closed order - no, we must openly climb to increase the degree.
                1. 0
                  14 May 2020 18: 16
                  Quote: soloveyav
                  But Gazprom will stupidly cut off supplies and we will - we will freeze, Russia will transport gas bypassing. Belarus has huge image problems, and so they don’t want to give new loans, so let’s start not to abide by the contracts, and there are enough problems.

                  ----------------------------
                  You are ridiculous, "commercial" chauvinists. Belarus has no problems, Pompeo, in your opinion, came in vain. I'm telling you that Batka now has 5 billion trump cards, and you tell me about "contracts with negotiators." It is according to your contract and with your negotiators, in which the London court or the Stockholm arbitration is for sure registered, that Batka whips Gazprom as he wants. Naftogaz did just that, did not bother. And why he began to speak openly, that is why, in order to take the political note and to be heard.
                  PS Put cons, chauvinists, this is an indicator of your stupidity and shortsightedness. If I think again, the Courvoisier bubble is with you. laughing laughing
                  1. +3
                    14 May 2020 18: 44
                    You do not tell me from Russia about the greatness of our Alexander Grigoryevich. In reality, our country is losing money and is not doing so slowly. A quarrel with Russia (inevitable when trying to whip) will kill many enterprises here that still move. 26 years ago, Lukashenko chose the path to integration, since the country has lived in many ways, but in my opinion he has been bending over the past few years. For without the support of Russia, privateers unloved by you communists will survive - who will shuttle, who will be in it, someone will even keep production, but the industrial giants that you adore from the times of the USSR will shrink to minimum sizes at best, and most will simply not survive. Because socialism still somehow works with the availability of raw materials as it was in the USSR (and it didn’t save it), but in the Belarusian version it is financed by loans - and without them it is doomed to the current development of technologies.
                    1. +1
                      14 May 2020 19: 07
                      Quote: soloveyav
                      You do not tell me from Russia about the greatness of our Alexander Grigoryevich.

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                      I’m telling you about his logic, I’m about "greatness" somehow from the high bell tower. And in his logic it would be quite possible to shake off 5 billion billions from Gazprom, because either a "contract" or a "brotherhood". Today, in capitalist logic, it is difficult to reconcile this. If today is a "contract", then tomorrow or the day after tomorrow Stockholm or London. And by the way, I say that it is better to give in to Gazprom today than to pay tomorrow. And your enterprises will probably feel better at 70 than at 157. I absolutely don't care how much Gazprom gives to Beltransgaz or Naftogaz, just with such a "trade" it will reset itself to zero.
                      PS Your enterprises trade under the "contract". Our steel from Zaporizhstal has not gone anywhere, even though we are in supercontrol with Ukraine.
                      1. +1
                        14 May 2020 19: 15
                        Even if he shakes 5, which is not a fact, Belarus should pay Russia something around 2020 in 3, and the total debt of the Russian Federation is about 8, i.e. still have to stay. And I very much doubt that after such a trick the Russian Federation will give at least a million. Those. the Chinese will have to sell, Europe does not give money without reform.
                    2. -1
                      15 May 2020 10: 10
                      Quote: soloveyav
                      Lukashenko 26 years ago chose the path to integration

                      As life shows, all this integration is nothing more than appearance.
                      Quote: soloveyav
                      privateers unloved by you communists will survive - who will shuttle, who in it, someone will even keep production,

                      They will survive, but not only not all. laughing
                      Quote: soloveyav
                      Because socialism still somehow works with the availability of raw materials as it was in the USSR (and it didn’t save it), but in the Belarusian version it is financed by loans - and without them it is doomed to the current development of technologies.

                      It is interesting to see how capitalism will work without loans and resources. This is something new in economic thought. And by and large, you never have there socialism. As a matter of fact, in the USSR it was too tight with socialism.
                      1. 0
                        15 May 2020 11: 58
                        So yes, not socialism, but much closer to it than the Russian Federation or many other countries of the former USSR. For example, we have medicine without medical insurance and policies, just show your passport with registration, prices are set for socially significant products, enterprises are mostly formally owned and owned by the state for the most part 90%, it’s extremely difficult to obtain land ownership - in fact, who managed to has, the rest have a lease with the right to inherit, there is a decree on social dependents (payment of communal services at a high tariff, etc.) - the date of full introduction has been postponed, but most likely they will cease after the elections, there is an analogue Spruce Komsomol - Youth Union, there are quite formal voluntary work. There are still regional executive committees and deputies on ideology, the KGB and the police (and not the police as in other countries) laughing . So there is both good and bad, where you work depends. There is less corruption at the grassroots level; here, ties and family relations mean more. It’s probably better for us to work as a pensioner or at a state-owned enterprise - prices are a bit lower, salaries and pensions at this level +/- are the same, medicine is comparable.
                        And unless there are credit relations and minerals, only tribal relations will work, and that is unlikely. Another question of efficiency is that the Union could well concentrate resources in certain areas, but lost the general race. Everywhere there are advantages and disadvantages, you need to look at what is more successful for a certain territory at a certain moment. Our system gave a better standard of living (largely due to Russia) somewhere up to the year 2010-2011, now it gives +/- the same again, largely due to Russia, which will be further shown by time.
      2. +1
        14 May 2020 16: 45
        But father’s Hailie Likely t is about 127 against 70. He can’t be trusted at all (I can). As usual, the nuances, the spot price for a couple of tanks vs long-term contracts for a billion cubic meters, with transportation / or at your own expense. But the collective farmer only barks loudly at Russia, how greedy it is.
      3. 0
        14 May 2020 19: 06
        Quote: Altona
        By and large, I am for the Old Man, because Miller does not have any sense to feed these 57 differences


        Not to Miller, but to Russian pensioners who are paid a pension from taxes, you tear a piece of bread out of your mouth
    20. -8
      14 May 2020 14: 56
      Quote: Alexey RA
      And so already at 6 billion dollars a year in Belarus pumped. And in response to what?

      the next ... they themselves came up with some billions and I tell you that this money is not here and there never was. And right away ... if you consider loans for help, then go to the bank and take loans ... then tell us how the bank pumped money into you and now you have an easy life. And your "gifted" government considers the rest of the aid as lost profits from the sale of energy resources. Like 20 million oil, sold at 60, and the world price is 100, which means they gave 40 (conditional prices). Well, no one would buy 100 million at 20 ... which we see from the beginning of the year ... they could earn from the sale of 60, but they earned 0 at all ... These are the calculations pouring into your ears.
      1. +7
        14 May 2020 15: 10
        Quote: vasek5533
        the next one ... we ourselves have come up with some kind of billions, and I’m telling you, there isn’t this money here and never was.

        The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Belarus has not denied a single figure from an interview with Babich. In the response statements there were only emotions, no facts.
        1. -1
          14 May 2020 15: 24
          Why refute any numbers or separate phrases, the answer is given on the situation as a whole. Lavrov, too, listened to this, and then said a well-known phrase, I think he didn’t get into the numbers ... but Babich was no longer an ambassador, and did not bring any benefit to bilateral relations (he was appointed as if for this)
          1. 0
            14 May 2020 17: 06
            Quote: vasek5533
            Why refute any numbers or separate phrases, the answer is given on the situation as a whole. Here Lavrov also listened to this, and then said a well-known phrase, I think he didn’t get into the numbers ...

            So Lavrov was not voiced by numbers, but tried in a mentor tone to reprimand him. A question the answer.
            Babich announced specific figures for financing Belarus from the Russian budget. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Belarus was able to answer only one thing - "the office writes!"
      2. +3
        14 May 2020 15: 11
        And you, I believe, are sure that you won’t fill anything in your ears. Where such confidence?
        They invented for themselves some kind of billions, and I’m telling you, there isn’t this money here and never was.

        Again, where does this conviction come from? Or do you argue on the principle that since you personally have not seen any money, then they do not exist?
        1. 0
          14 May 2020 15: 35
          The bottom line is that capitalism is in the yard, and you know what it is like in Russia, and no one gives anything for free. Therefore, these naive reasoning about keeping someone there is tired.
          Roughly speaking, the two countries earned 6 billion each, but they will tell you that 6 billion that Belarus earned is what we support them, if it weren’t for us, then it would not have earned them, and it’s true that it’s only its 6 billion about who didn’t tell you, wouldn’t work either.
          1. 0
            14 May 2020 17: 12
            Quote: vasek5533
            The bottom line is that capitalism is in the yard, and what you know better in Russia, and no one gives anything for free.

            Who was talking about free? Russia is stubbornly running on a rake, trying to buy the pro-Russian position of neighboring countries. And in the same way he stubbornly plunges into the same situation: they take money, they take discounts, and in response - silence. One such fraternal people has already uncovered its full cover. Another brotherly regime turned out to be smarter and still continues to assert "Russia must!"
            1. +1
              15 May 2020 09: 22
              Well, look at the UN vote, and find a more pro-Russian country in the world ... otherwise, it’s only heard that Crimea did not recognize, well, sorry, the recognition price is not 6 billion, but the loss of trade with Ukraine and the EU at least .. Pupils and local pensioners do not understand this and scream.
      3. 0
        14 May 2020 18: 04
        And how else to count? Is there a technique? If the world price is 100, and you were sold at 40 - and you immediately resold at 100 - at whose expense, in essence, these profits? And it’s not about the year 20, but many years before that. And I suppose they give loans at 17%, as in the banks of the Russian Federation, of course. And they probably restructure constantly. Stop raving. If you constantly bite the giving hand - someday the giver will get bored. That's the thing, and slowly it goes. And the NATO bases and mythical Pershing-well, they will sort it out somehow.
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    22. +8
      14 May 2020 15: 36
      Lukashenko again called on Russia to lower gas prices for the republic

      Belarusian traders often come to our city to put up tents and sell, supposedly, Belarusian goods. By the way, there are a lot of sea products in the assortment. Prices for products are higher than for our local ones. So, from what hangover should gas be cheaper for them than for me?
    23. +6
      14 May 2020 15: 46
      Quote: veritas

      In relation to the fraternal people, one must be fair, and even more so in difficult years. Of course, prices for Belarus should be less than for Europe.

      Brotherhood implies reciprocal feelings, and not like Old Man - today he is one brother, tomorrow another. Such family relationships do not exist in nature. It's time to decide on your genealogy.
    24. 0
      14 May 2020 15: 49
      I mean, pay extra ...?
    25. +1
      14 May 2020 15: 55
      Quote: DEPHIHTO
      Quote: Barmaleyka
      already tired but father

      laughing Yes, he was just beginning to kick the greedy Kremlin redneck. Oil is already buying from the Saudis ... winked

      So the flag in his hands, as they say!
      Let the Saudis buy gas, what’s the problem?
      1. +2
        14 May 2020 16: 49
        Quote: Serg662
        Let the Saudis buy gas, what’s the problem?

        -------------------------------
        Well, a little more of such a policy and he will completely buy LNG for himself. Or on the "reverse", 15 bucks overpayment is still not 57. I'm just describing his behavior, and you write chauvinistic wishes.
      2. +1
        14 May 2020 21: 59
        Quote: Serg662
        So the flag in his hands, as they say!
        Let the Saudis buy gas, what’s the problem?

        So who's in the way, back in 2015 - “Our new approach to export determines: a third of products should be sent to the markets of the Eurasian Economic Union, a third to the EU countries, another third to the countries of the“ distant arc. ”Time goes by, it goes ... at the end of the 1st quarter of 2020 - the share of Russia reached 48,8%. The other 12 top partners of Belarus had a total share of 35% (Ukraine - 7,7%, China - 6,5%, Poland - 4,1%, Germany - 3,9%, Lithuania - 2,5%, Great Britain and the Netherlands - 1,7% each, the USA and Turkey - 1,5% each, Kazakhstan - 1,4%, Italy - 1,3%, India - 1,2, 2019%. Approximately the same picture was noted in 24. https://banki4164.by/news/XNUMX-belorusskiy-eksport-spasla-rossiya
        For 5 years, something, somehow not very, but now that’s all - we’ll find new markets, open new ways .... somehow
    26. +2
      14 May 2020 16: 24
      Old Man, as always, in his repertoire.
    27. +4
      14 May 2020 16: 42
      But why does Russia owe everyone ?! It is only audible, it must ... it must.
      1. +2
        14 May 2020 17: 52
        Quote: pexotinec
        But why does Russia owe everyone ?! It is only audible, it must ... it must.

        Good-natured we are too Ivana .. Here and use it! And inside Russia, even more greedy moneylenders settled in ... Here is a conflict between them, who will use Russia first according to world law ..
        And we do not want this am But again you have to see .. Here Chaliapin knew the Russian soul well ..

        God forbid to endure the Russian unrest finally ..
    28. 0
      14 May 2020 17: 06
      Already bought oil from America? Now buy shale gas.
    29. +1
      14 May 2020 17: 38
      I read all the comments. What disunity, bitterness, and a dermocratic consciousness has driven into our head for 30 years now does to people. Previously, we shared the last piece of bread, but now man is a wolf to man.
      1. +2
        14 May 2020 17: 44
        Quote: Gennady Korsunov
        I read all the comments. What does disunity, redneckness, and a dermocratic consciousness drive into our head for 30 years now?

        Well, if we were born in the USSR (we are aware of everything)!
        But our children and grandchildren in social networks are driven this is scary !!!! Do you think these bots are only here with our cons and templates from manuals? angry
        Quote: Gennady Korsunov
        Previously, they shared the last piece of bread, but now man is a wolf to man.

        And this methodically emerges from our souls .. Each for himself and beat the first one to be afraid, etc.
        Here on this you need to urgently unite and here on the site including .. soldier
      2. +2
        14 May 2020 18: 09
        What did you want? You, for example, constantly lend money to a friend - without a return, or you do not particularly require a return. They arranged him for work, in general an idyll. And a friend constantly tells you and everyone around you that you are not friends at all and will not sit down on the same field with you. But he constantly requires money and some preferences. I hope the logic is clear?
      3. -2
        15 May 2020 00: 29
        Quote: Gennady Korsunov
        we’ve been bullshit for 30 years. We used to share the last piece of bread, but now man is wolf to man.
        - I’m embarrassed to ask, did he recognize the Crimea? No?
    30. +3
      14 May 2020 18: 20
      Something somehow strange turns out. 70 dollars per 1000 cubic meters is 0,07 dollars per 1 cubic meter. At a dollar price of 74 rubles, it is 5,18 r / cu. In the village of Yablonovsky, which is located in sunny Adygea, the cost of a cubic meter is 6,19567. Those. the domestic price is 83,73 dollars per 1000 cubic meters. Some bad thoughts creep in ....
      Now I looked at this resource https://www.gazprom.ru/about/marketing/europe/, namely
      Average selling price of gas to non-CIS countries (net of VAT, including excise tax and customs duties)
      And there is listed the price for 2018 at the level of 15 499,5 per 1000 cubic meters. At that time, I paid at a price of about 5,7 rubles / cubic meter. It seems someone ... let's say lies.
    31. 0
      14 May 2020 18: 38
      And fried bananas? That is a vile licimer ... Before we had time to insert a hairpin into the side with the parade, as already came running a discount on gas to beg. Changes his shoes in a jump to the envy of any "sharovary politician" of our "neighbors on the globe."
    32. +2
      14 May 2020 18: 39
      Whiskered Russophobe is not enough. Give it to me. :-). And the Crimea? But is this not our war? And at least a drop in Syria to help? You bastard.
      1. +1
        15 May 2020 05: 51
        And with ukrami trades in full, fuel and military products as well. And blinks innocently: "Well, it's just business." Only when he is told that the price of energy resources is also a business does he start howling about fraternity and Smolensk prices.
    33. 0
      14 May 2020 20: 46
      Gas discount? That is not a question! We will give you a military base with 20000 thousandth contingent and a discount on gas per load. AND? But I don’t agree.
      1. -1
        15 May 2020 08: 23
        This is what we are talking about. According to some strange twist, Lukashenko believes that we should give him resources, and from which he should exclusively admit to a platonic love for Russia, in words, of course. What is the military base, what is the support of Russia's foreign policy. What are you speaking about!
    34. +3
      14 May 2020 21: 05
      But how did you call?! ..
      Well, I personally (from nothing to do) watched his rally for the Belarusian TV / press. There I actually liked the lady from the press (I basically looked at her and the whole rally). Well then.
      The essence of the rally was our answer to Chamberlain (that is, the Russian Federation as a whole and the first channel in particular). For coronavirus, parade, etc.
      So, father said forty-seven times that we are tough guys. We are not asking anyone for anything. And we don’t need anything from anyone!
      How does this fit with the latest events? ...
    35. 0
      15 May 2020 16: 51
      You don’t have to turn on the old Babichev record about 6 yards here, but turn on your head, otherwise it will be like with Naftogaz and Ukraine - the oil is already breaking off as a result of a tax maneuver, resulting in a loss, note the third in Europe, guaranteed market for the Russian oil, especially in light of the recent sulphurous diversion, which now costs Rosneft dearly. It will be cheaper and more stable for the Republic of Belarus to start purchasing Russian gas from Poland by reverse from the Independent Operator, and BTG to nationalize upon the failure of the Russian Federation to fulfill the agreement on the contract for its sale. car auto.

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