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For the French Navy are going to order a promising nuclear carrier

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For the French Navy are going to order a promising nuclear carrier

It was announced that the French President Emanuel Macron would discuss the issue of ordering a promising aircraft carrier for the country's Navy. To date, the only active French aircraft carrier is the Charles de Gaulle, which is still forced to stand in the port due to health problems among hundreds of its crew members.


The National Defense Council, whose meeting is scheduled for June of this year, is going to discuss the possibility of ordering a nuclear aircraft carrier with a displacement of up to 75 thousand tons. For comparison: the total displacement of Charles de Gaulle (also nuclear) is 42 thousand tons. And the total displacement of the American aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt is about 97 thousand tons. It turns out that the desired French Navy aircraft carrier - something in between (displacement) between these aircraft carriers.

The first hearing on this issue took place in February. Then the ministerial investment committee met. The Minister of Armed Forces of France Florence Parley announced that she intends to support the initiative of the Navy to order a promising nuclear carrier. Now they are going to enlist the support of the president of the country.

In the ministry of the armed forces of France:

Initially, we proceeded from the idea of ​​acquiring an aircraft carrier with conventional engines. But now we are considering a ship with a nuclear power plant as a more suitable option.

It is noted that this will increase the autonomy of the warship, will make it possible to carry out long voyages with fewer calls to certain ports.

At the same time, the ministry cannot yet concentrate on the question of why the Navy is the second aircraft carrier, if the operation of Charles de Gaulle in France itself raises a lot of questions. There were assumptions about what could not have done without “recommendations” from Washington, who would like to arrange the delivery of the French F-35B carrier-based fighter aircraft.
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  1. Hto tama
    Hto tama 14 May 2020 07: 44 New
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    Maybe I didn’t read it carefully, but I didn’t understand where they want to order from myself or somewhere else? Yes and fu-35 is not entirely clear, they have their own rafals recourse
    1. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 14 May 2020 10: 22 New
      -3
      Well, order from the builders of ships in shipyards. Amers have no place to put their fu, so they are forced to buy
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 14 May 2020 11: 03 New
        +2
        How many F-35s will be based on a 75-ct.? 36-48 is the maximum.
        For the United States, which collect 150 pieces per year, not too gigantic order. And it is not yet known how French aviation firms will react to the F35 contract. What about Rafali? Domestic car with good performance.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 14 May 2020 19: 37 New
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          Учитывая то, что количество желающих купить Ф - 35 резко сокращается, даже 40-50 шт. уже ощутимо. Рафаль и Ф - 35 машины разных поколений, если французские фирмы выдадут машину 5 - го поколения, то купят и у них. Но это большой вопрос - сильно дорогая цяцька. Даже матрасники, запрягли в эту тему все своих "шестерок".
  2. Sergei 777
    Sergei 777 14 May 2020 07: 47 New
    -4
    But what about Russia? Again the lull? Kuznetsov will have to be written off in 8-10 years. An aircraft carrier is at least a status item that every great power should have. Well, plus combat capabilities.
    1. novel66
      novel66 14 May 2020 08: 22 New
      +1
      plus combat capabilities.

      what would it be? What can't we do without him?
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 14 May 2020 10: 41 New
        +1
        To control the water area at a distance from its own shores?
        1. novel66
          novel66 14 May 2020 10: 42 New
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          I’m embarrassed to ask - why?
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 14 May 2020 10: 44 New
            +4
            safety of the SSBN, at least a safe exit to the sea. And the defense is the very coast from which the area is removed?
            1. novel66
              novel66 14 May 2020 10: 49 New
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              but what, I’m embarrassed to ask, does the aircraft carrier protect itself?
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 14 May 2020 13: 52 New
                +1
                - Air wing
                - escort
                - maneuver
                ?
                1. novel66
                  novel66 14 May 2020 13: 56 New
                  +4
                  about the escort in more detail, where is the excess of ships organized here ??
                  1. alexmach
                    alexmach 14 May 2020 14: 04 New
                    +3
                    Ну... где избыток кораблей, а где у нас сам авианосец то? Кузя из ремонтов не вылазит, его считайте что и нет, и его задача скорее "сохранять знания и традиции".
                    And this is not an excess, it will be the most necessary ships for the same control of the water area. And with an aircraft carrier, it will be much easier to control this water area than without.
                    1. novel66
                      novel66 14 May 2020 14: 09 New
                      +4
                      Well, no ... either the water area or Avik guard
                      1. alexmach
                        alexmach 14 May 2020 17: 25 New
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                        Come on. And where then will they guard him, on the shore or something?
                      2. Svarog51
                        Svarog51 14 May 2020 21: 19 New
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                        Roma hi And if the mermaids attack, there are many sailors. Not everyone can resist them.
                      3. novel66
                        novel66 14 May 2020 23: 41 New
                        +3
                        Serena, just nobody !!
  3. Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 14 May 2020 09: 14 New
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    Quote: Sergey 777
    But what about Russia? Again the lull? Kuznetsov will have to be written off in 8-10 years. An aircraft carrier is at least a status item that every great power should have. Well, plus combat capabilities.

    In order to have combat capabilities, there must be a corresponding air wing. What kind of aircraft carrier wing do we have, instant 29k or even more drone? Do not make me laugh
    1. Sergei 777
      Sergei 777 14 May 2020 09: 18 New
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      But is the development of the deck version of the Su 57 is impossible? Or MiG 35?
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 14 May 2020 09: 25 New
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        Quote: Sergey 777
        But is the development of the deck version of the Su 57 is impossible? Or MiG 35?

        Everything is doable, even the development of an 8th generation fighter underwater. Only for this, money and time are needed, sensible teachers across the vertical from kindergarten to university and advanced science. Of all the above, we have only oil money.
      2. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 14 May 2020 09: 36 New
        0
        First you need to master them for the VKS .... about creating support vessels.
  • Sergey39
    Sergey39 14 May 2020 07: 50 New
    -2
    "При этом в министерстве пока не могут сосредоточиться на вопросе о том, зачем ВМС второй авианосец,"
    What dull. Then, why, and the British. Fulfill US Wishlist, which have constant problems with their aircraft carriers.
  • Bagatur
    Bagatur 14 May 2020 08: 01 New
    +2
    Great Frenchman Rafal! They change it not for F 35 but for the future 5-generation EuroFight.
    1. novel66
      novel66 14 May 2020 08: 24 New
      -1
      this, as you order
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 May 2020 08: 04 New
    +1
    Они богатые, им можно? Или среди жёлтых жилетов "подписку" проведут, "на авианосец"? Типа SMS-ками... laughing
    1. knn54
      knn54 14 May 2020 08: 08 New
      +2
      Shura, launch the Berlag, I apologize, Greta Tunberg. Windmills so windmills ...
      1. novel66
        novel66 14 May 2020 08: 25 New
        +2
        she is now snapped up like dogs in self-isolation mode!
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 14 May 2020 08: 14 New
    +1
    But now we are considering a nuclear-powered ship as a more suitable option.
    Frogs did not give a damn about the precepts of Greta Tunberg. No la respect!
    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 14 May 2020 08: 52 New
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      The aircraft carrier is being built by the same financial and industrial circles that finance Greta.
  • Avior
    Avior 14 May 2020 08: 20 New
    +5
    . There were assumptions about what could not have done without "recommendations" from Washington, who would like to arrange the delivery of the French fighter carrier-based F-35B

    Such assumptions appeared, it seems, strictly from the anonymous author of the article.
    The French have their own deck fighter for aircraft carriers with catapult take-off, and the F-35V is generally VTOL.
    1. novel66
      novel66 14 May 2020 08: 27 New
      +1
      and the pilots knock their heads, and the French have this weak spot
    2. Undecim
      Undecim 14 May 2020 09: 12 New
      +5
      At the same time, the ministry cannot yet concentrate on the question of why the Navy is the second aircraft carrier, if the operation of Charles de Gaulle in France itself raises a lot of questions. There were assumptions about what could not have done without “recommendations” from Washington, who would like to arrange the delivery of the French F-35B carrier-based fighter aircraft.
      Such assumptions appeared only with site newsmakers.
      This is such a news feed system on the site - at first a little truth, and then trick to give the desired effect. Hamsters will not be checked.
      Во первых, новый авианосец планируется к вводу в строй не ранее 2035-2039 годов, во вторых, в министерстве давно сосредоточились - он должен заменить "Шарль де Голль", срок службы которого истекает в 2040 году.

      И в третьих, его предполагается оснащать "Next Generation Fighter", который разрабатывается совместно Германией и Францией.
      1. Avior
        Avior 14 May 2020 09: 19 New
        -1
        This explains a lot
        And I want, of course, so that articles on VO do not have to be double-checked and supplemented on the Internet, but rather, with the information from here other minds - to teach the mind. what
        1. Undecim
          Undecim 14 May 2020 09: 22 New
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          And I want, of course, so that articles on VO do not have to be double-checked and supplemented on the Internet, but rather, with the information from here other minds - to teach the mind.
          C'est fantastique!!!
          1. Avior
            Avior 14 May 2020 09: 24 New
            -1
            Ну, или отдельную рубрику сделать " Поищи сам!" smile
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 14 May 2020 09: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: Undecim
        И в третьих, его предполагается оснащать "Next Generation Fighter", который разрабатывается совместно Германией и Францией.

        Is this something?
        1. Undecim
          Undecim 14 May 2020 09: 35 New
          -1
          Пока это не более, чем "макет о намерениях". Каким будет на самом деле и будет ли вообще - покажет время. Но пока работы идут достаточно интенсивно.
  • Avior
    Avior 14 May 2020 08: 29 New
    +1
    The question arose: will the French not be selling the old one if they build a new one?
    India for example?
  • Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 14 May 2020 08: 35 New
    +2
    Apparently the custodians decided to forge the Euroarmy, hopes are unimportant for Uncle Sam.
  • Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 14 May 2020 08: 44 New
    +2
    And the French economy will coordinate the construction and acquisition of a new aircraft carrier? And the subsequent operation is also not a cheap event ... But the main questions remained unanswered why is this a miracle of French technology that seems to have no foreign ambitions? And the second question is why one aircraft carrier, and not at least two, of course three is better, but as I understand it, the option is not even discussed about two ... request
    1. Avior
      Avior 14 May 2020 09: 30 New
      -1
      Do you know which country has the longest land border with France?
      With Brazil.
      There is also the Franco - Surinamese border, also one of the longest in France.
      There is such a concept - overseas departments.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 14 May 2020 09: 24 New
    +1
    We see the money they don’t know where to go, and the aircraft carrier that they have, they use a lot?
  • +5
    +5 14 May 2020 10: 40 New
    +1
    Why gallam penguin? They have Rafal-M ... their own and not particularly worse.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 14 May 2020 11: 19 New
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    [quoteAt the same time, the ministry cannot yet concentrate on the question of why the Navy is the second aircraft carrier] [/ quote]
    business loading, jobs ...
  • bars1
    bars1 14 May 2020 11: 58 New
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    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    But now we are considering a nuclear-powered ship as a more suitable option.
    Frogs did not give a damn about the precepts of Greta Tunberg. No la respect!

    On the contrary, they listen: atomic SI does not pollute the atmosphere, in contrast to spoiling gas turbines. French aircraft carriers are designed for the war against the Papuans, where the possibility of damage to the reactor is minimal
  • strelokmira
    strelokmira 14 May 2020 16: 17 New
    +1
    Well France a big, rich country can afford winked
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 14 May 2020 19: 38 New
    -1
    The French decided to make another floating hemorrhoids?
  • Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 15 May 2020 22: 56 New
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    I would like to arrange the delivery of the French F-35B carrier-based fighter aircraft.


    Probably still C (F-35C.)? Ejection deck.