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NI (USA): The West should take a step back and recognize the presence of Russia's interests in Ukraine

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The American media published material on Ukraine and the conflict that unfolded between the West and Russia because of this country.


In an article on the pages of the NI (National Interest), the author William Smith writes that today self-organization of the world is disregarded not according to the patterns of the Cold War with its military alliances, but on ethnic, religious and civilizational grounds.

The material cites as an example a study by Sam Huntington, who noted that the West is going to extend its mentality, its values, for example, to China. According to Huntington, this is impossible by definition, since China is a centuries-old civilization with its own mentality, from the point of view of which the Western tradition is largely contrary to the usual norms of the eastern person.

The article notes that in a similar way things are with regard to Russia, its sphere of interests. The author of the material indicates that the West continues to finance the military component in Ukraine, creating the threat of an even larger military conflict. It is noted that, instead, the West should "take a step back and recognize the fact that its interests exist in Ukraine, not only for itself, but also for Russia."

William Smith:

These are completely legitimate interests. And the way out of this situation lies in the diplomatic plane.

The statement is reasonable, but at the same time naive. After all, those Western circles that, let’s say, “process” Ukraine, are well aware of how important it is for Russia and vice versa. That is why those destructive actions are committed - with the goal of tearing our countries apart, to sow distrust and enmity between our peoples. Simply put - to divide and rule.

That is why those whom the journalist addressed in his material are unlikely to heed his words and are unlikely to take that very “step back”, at least in the near future.
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  1. Ilya-spb
    Ilya-spb 14 May 2020 06: 27 New
    12
    Ukraine is a gift of territories to Little Russians from Lenin and an ugly brainchild of the Bialowieza Agreements.

    The statement of the question in the article is incomprehensible. Of course, Russia has interests in the territories with which Russia borders.

    The topic of the presence of American interests in Ukraine, in particular, the work of biological laboratories, is not disclosed.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 14 May 2020 06: 53 New
      15
      If the Anglo-Saxons are going to make Ukraine a battering ram against Russia and the Ukrainians themselves are ready to play this role, it is obvious that Russia will have to disintegrate into pieces in one way or another and return to Russia what was given by the Bolsheviks ... otherwise we will have to face even bigger ones in the future problems.
      Unfortunately, the half measures of 2014 in relation to Ukraine led to such a stalemate and the Minsk agreements will not be able to help here ... I am amazed at the stubbornness of the Kremlin to implement this stillborn agreement ... this is all empty ... the moment was missed.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 14 May 2020 07: 25 New
        +4
        The West should “take a step back and recognize the fact that it has interests in Ukraine, not only for itself, but also for Russia”


        А FORit would be worth the ocean West to take a step back, and recognize the presence of Russia's interests in Europe, which are many orders of magnitude more justified than the American ...
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt 14 May 2020 14: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        half measures of 2014 in relation to Ukraine led to such a stalemate

        Wait, it's not evening yet. The main condition for a competent policy is the ability to wait and then do everything at the right time. So to speak, take it with your bare hands. Still will be. Moreover, Ukraine, by all means, destroys itself.
        1. Amin_vivec
          Amin_vivec 15 May 2020 00: 23 New
          0
          While Ukraine is not even a battering ram against Russia - it is a bomb with a clockwork under the door of Russia, or a cake with arsenic ... And now they will try to boil it for us more expensive.
  2. Slipper 2
    Slipper 2 14 May 2020 06: 32 New
    +3
    Without a big flogging of hozlov this territory will be sick
  3. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 14 May 2020 06: 35 New
    +2
    Я бы так не зарекался и поспорил с журналистом ,очевидно что "тлетворное влияние запада" победило в южной Корее не смотря на всю её самобытность и близость к Китаю.Количество христиан всевозможных протестантских направлений там зашкаливает,они даже от своего естественного внешнего вида отказываются ,меняя разрез глаз и делая пластику.
    1. svp67
      svp67 14 May 2020 06: 52 New
      0
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      очевидно что "тлетворное влияние запада" победило в южной Корее не смотря на всю её самобытность и близость к Китаю.

      The same picture in Japan ...
    2. Normal ok
      Normal ok 14 May 2020 08: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      Я бы так не зарекался и поспорил с журналистом ,очевидно что "тлетворное влияние запада" победило в южной Корее не смотря на всю её самобытность и близость к Китаю.Количество христиан всевозможных протестантских направлений там зашкаливает,они даже от своего естественного внешнего вида отказываются ,меняя разрез глаз и делая пластику.

      Хантингтон, в своей книге "Конфликт цивилизаций" (по другому "Столкновение цивилизаций". к стати есть в русском переводе) указал основные тренды. Например "модернизация без вестернизации" (например Китай). Хотя всегда бывают исключения из правил (та же Ю.Корея). Но важнее всего в его книге даже не это. А то, что он сформулировал и обосновал идею деления мира не на политические/экономические блоки или военные союзы (они временны), а на цивилизации, - которые на протяжении многих веков устойчивы. Его книга стала настольным учебником для политологов 2000-2020. Интересно, что российские специалисты в области ведения гибридных войн использовали его идеи применительно к Украине. А именно попытались актуализировать цивилизационную разницу между западными и восточными регионами Украины.
      1. Waddimm
        Waddimm 14 May 2020 09: 47 New
        +2
        Quote: Normal ok
        It is interesting that Russian experts in the field of hybrid warfare used his ideas in relation to Ukraine.

        Do you have evidence that Russian experts were engaged in updating the civilizational difference between the regions of the former USSR? Or did you just sketch? Maybe you bought books for these specialists at the store?
        The differences between the regions of present-day Ukraine are that this formation is artificially molded and very recently. And also by the fact that one part of the territories is trying to forcibly impose its ideology on another part, it is forcing it to abandon its history and its roots.
        The conflict in Ukraine does not need to be updated from outside; it itself copes with this very well. One forced plantation of the Ukrainian language is worth it!
        1. Procyon lotor
          Procyon lotor 14 May 2020 12: 22 New
          -3
          If you watch programs such as Kiseleva or Nightingale Litter on central television, I think that everything is in order with evidence that Russian specialists were engaged and are still updating the civilizational difference between the regions of the former USSR.

          Regarding the fact that Ukraine is a very recent and artificially cobbled together formation, it can be said that the emergence, formation of states is a natural process, which is caused by a whole complex of historical, economic, climatic, geographical, religious, cultural, political, etc. factors, and most importantly, it is common to all, without exception, states. The formation, as well as the disappearance of states, is an ongoing process and just a matter of time. It’s hard for someone to understand, and of course there are people who think that Russia appeared by the will of God, but we won’t talk about it here.

          На счет навязывания идеологии можно только зказать что кто-то смотрит Киселева слишком часто, или как говорят классики, "не читайте до обеда советских газет". Это вредно.

          And regarding the fact that Ukraine itself copes with this conflict perfectly, you are absolutely right. This is of course only if no one feeds it from the outside. But unfortunately, this is not yet visible.
          1. Waddimm
            Waddimm 14 May 2020 13: 02 New
            +3
            Quote: Procyon Lotor
            At the expense of the imposition of ideology, we can only say that someone is looking at Kiselev

            Do not love Kiselev - do not look.
            To make a conclusion about the imposition of ideology, it is enough to read at least your law on language or analyze the results of your choices.

            Quote: Procyon Lotor
            This is of course only if no one feeds it from the outside.

            There is no need for nourishment. By imposing a culture and language alien to them on Russian people, you yourself provoke a conflict. Do not look for reasons outside. They are not there.
            1. Procyon lotor
              Procyon lotor 14 May 2020 16: 43 New
              -1
              So what exactly are they imposing? Ideology or culture? Although, maybe someone these terms are synonyms.
              1. Waddimm
                Waddimm 14 May 2020 20: 51 New
                0
                Quote: Procyon Lotor
                So what exactly are they imposing? Ideology or culture?

                Quote: Waddimm
                Forcing Russians to a culture and language alien to them

                Language, culture, ideology, history.
                1. Procyon lotor
                  Procyon lotor 15 May 2020 08: 57 New
                  0
                  And what exactly is the imposition expressed. What in Ukraine can not speak Russian? Make up dressing and walking vishivankas? Teach children at school that the origins of Russian statehood are actually in Kiev?

                  На счет закона о языке. Можно подумать что в плане языков меньшиств Россия образцовая страна и как глазить статья 2 в законе "О языках народов Российской Федерации", Российская Федерация гарантирует каждому право на использование родного языка, свободный выбор языка общения, воспитания, обучения и творчества независимо от его происхождения, социального и имущественного положения, расовой и национальной принадлежности, пола, образования, отношения к религии и места проживания.
                  But what really?
                  [/ quote] There are about 100 languages ​​in Russia. Of these, only a few are the languages ​​of education. And their number is really rapidly declining. For example, in 2015, education was conducted in 18 languages ​​in Russia. In 2016, there are already 13 of these languages. The number of national languages ​​taught in schools in Russia is declining every year, and in a few years their number can reach only 4-5 ... [quote]


                  Somehow a huge difference between words and actions, but for a real propagandist this is not a hindrance to blame others for all sins.
                  1. Waddimm
                    Waddimm 15 May 2020 09: 47 New
                    0
                    Quote: Procyon Lotor
                    And what exactly is the imposition expressed. What in Ukraine can not speak Russian?

                    To answer this question, just familiarize yourself with your language law. In Russia there is no such discriminatory law.
                    But the funny thing is that even your president, like most of the population, does not speak the Ukrainian language fluently. That is, Russians born in Ukraine are automatically considered Ukrainians. Even having nothing to do with this nationality. Although ... when the Ukrainians began to call themselves Ukrainians?
                    However, you stubbornly do not provide any evidence of a hybrid war in Ukraine by Russian specialists. Did you hear about this on Poroshenko TV channels?
                    1. Procyon lotor
                      Procyon lotor 15 May 2020 16: 12 New
                      -1
                      It may not be necessary to confuse nationality and citizenship.
                      1. Waddimm
                        Waddimm 15 May 2020 21: 50 New
                        0
                        Quote: Procyon Lotor
                        It may not be necessary to confuse nationality and citizenship.

                        Yeah, everything is very confused there!
                        And by the way, what are you doing on the Russian site? They banned you again ?!
            2. Kisa
              Kisa 14 May 2020 19: 14 New
              +1
              Kiselev’s at least something calm is not sharp .. Solovyov’s turn on, he always yells his head hurts))
  4. regdan
    regdan 14 May 2020 06: 51 New
    -9
    Slowly went into the dungeons about the need for Ukrainian Ukraine. Loshki get ready to feed Svidomo.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 14 May 2020 07: 13 New
      +1
      LDNR is not Svidomo, and under the wing of Russia they themselves will be completely fed. Yes, and not many Svidomo in the east of Ukraine, but you throw.
    2. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 14 May 2020 07: 47 New
      0
      Rather, it is to demonstrate the appearance of press freedom and diversity of opinion. And also material for feeding Russian liberalism, which drowns for Western values.
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 14 May 2020 13: 39 New
      0
      Rather, the uselessness of this suitcase without a handle to Western households.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 May 2020 06: 53 New
    0
    The statement is reasonable, but at the same time naive
    Согласен с автором. И не только потому, что запад преследует свои цели направленные исключительно против России, но и потому, что события на Донбассе и прямое враждебное отношение "настоящих" украинцев к нашей стране зашло так далеко, что дипломатия уже не поможет. Либо корчевать глубоко и до основания, либо пустить на самотек, но получить взамен еще больше крови.
    1. Palmyra
      Palmyra 14 May 2020 07: 36 New
      +1
      You are wrong, you only see that in Ukraine, the media stick out and are cultivated by the West. Yes, the family has its black sheep, but this is far from a critical mass. As long as the states hold on to the bit fast, everything will be so. Oligarchs and the West, the main enemies of Ukraine. Russia has dealt with this and is moving in the direction it needs. A global power, it was worth pursuing a more thoughtful policy in Ukraine, so that the satellites, like cockroaches, do not scatter and crap under the door.
      1. Hagalaz
        Hagalaz 14 May 2020 08: 16 New
        0
        You yourself would try to rethink what you wrote. At least this is not logical and confused, it consists of three semantic lines that are little connected with each other.
        First and foremost, the Americans really hold the bit fast. But no one is going to let them go, and this leads precisely to the growth of the critical mass you mentioned. Time does not work for us, and the process seems to me not reversible.
        Secondly, what has Russia dealt with this way and in what direction is it going in that direction? Please explain.
        And thirdly, what kind of thought-out policy of a global power do you mean? In fact, there are only two ways that States coexist. This is a conscious unity of interests, political and economic, and the second option, a stick and carrot policy pursued by a strong side. We can distribute gingerbread cookies, but with a whip of a problem.
        1. Palmyra
          Palmyra 14 May 2020 10: 09 New
          +1
          You yourself wrote, with a whip of a problem. And this is the main problem of Russian policy in Ukraine. Russia will not allow the West to plunder and pushed back from the politics of the oligarchs, and this is important. With the rest of the country, cope. The main result, so the Vedas? But with the satellite and the problem. Pay attention to the states, Tula gingerbread, they will not give out in their fiefdom.
  6. Karaul73
    Karaul73 14 May 2020 06: 56 New
    +4
    Quote: Slipper 2
    Without a big flogging of hozlov this territory will be sick

    Go to the ss shop and buy a whip. I suggest you try it on yourself first, it’ll suddenly get better!
  7. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 14 May 2020 07: 16 New
    +2
    Of course, I am not a cartographer or compasser, but somehow the US-War map and compass are weird, the GPS power button is probably looking. laughing
    1. novel66
      novel66 14 May 2020 08: 01 New
      +4
      I saw the compass for the first time - wants to understand what is the secret
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 14 May 2020 08: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Of course, I am not a cartographer or compasser, but somehow the US-War map and compass are weird, the GPS power button is probably looking.

      The photo, of course, is uninformative in itself, and therefore I can only assume that the Yankes is trying to see something on the map in the magnifying glass built into the compass ...

      But, such an assumption raises another logical question: - What did he want to make out there? Russian army in the Donbass ? belay
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 14 May 2020 08: 11 New
        +1
        Quote: Insurgent
        see something on the map in the compass magnifier built into the compass
        The location of the village of Pupa. ))) But seriously, the lighting is extremely unsuccessful, he builds for this. They don’t do that. Yes, and I did not see there magnifiers.
        Or the Americans are cunning. )))
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 14 May 2020 10: 29 New
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          They don’t do that. Yes, and I did not see there magnifiers.

          What is not being done is a no brainer, but as for eyepiece lenses (which I possibly unsuccessfully designated as a magnifying glass), for example, in your photo, then it is there.
          But I must say that not in all versions. There are similar solutions with a conventional diopter hole.
    3. knn54
      knn54 14 May 2020 08: 14 New
      +3
      Probably moss (NORD) on a compass is looking ..
    4. iwakura
      iwakura 14 May 2020 09: 43 New
      +1
      If we assume that the piece of paper does not block his front sight on the compass, he keeps it generally correct. There are two sights in the front (in the cover in the slot of the string) and in the back (just the slot) that need to be combined in the direction of the target, the compass needle and numbers are looking through the lens built into the back. But he somehow holds his head wrong (apparently the sun is in the way), he’s probably trying to create a shadow
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 14 May 2020 09: 48 New
        0
        Quote: iwakura
        then he keeps it altogether right
        Perhaps only the rear pillar is not folded down.
  8. edeligor
    edeligor 14 May 2020 07: 19 New
    +4
    Quote: regdan
    Loshki
    Это Вы о своих согражданах?! Вы, типа, белый человек, а мы... . Нормально. Запомните, Украина никогда не была нам чужой, надо будет поможем, не смотря на то, что и сами не богаты. А за "лошков" необходимо ответить.
    1. novel66
      novel66 14 May 2020 08: 03 New
      +4
      will answer. for
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 14 May 2020 08: 27 New
      +1
      Ukraine has never been a stranger to us,
      Yes, you read the comments in other articles! There siblings probably the most harmless term used! And remember the articles at least two years ago (now, however, the tension has lowered). Template terminology: fascists, Bandera, punitive.,. And indiscriminately, from one bucket all watered! I declare this to you, as I have relatives in Ukraine. Because I react painfully to such attacks.
  9. Palmyra
    Palmyra 14 May 2020 07: 25 New
    0
    Western interest is not only political, it is now more economic. Everyone is robbing Ukraine, both Europe and the states. They push in unnecessary goods, weapons, take out the forest, wait for the looting of the land ... Well, who will refuse it? But fascism is cultivated so that the population is distracted and does not interfere with robbing, well, other problems must be solved at the same time.
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  11. north 2
    north 2 14 May 2020 08: 50 New
    0
    Another hypocrisy of the West. Yes, and without logic. After all, if, for example, 1991 in the Baltic
    it was restored that the Bolshevik Communists destroyed there in 1940, namely the bourgeois Republics within the borders of 1940, why then Russia cannot restore the fact that the same Bolshevik Communists in Russia destroyed in 1917, namely the Russian Empire within 1917 year. And there is no need to wait and hopes that the hypocritical West will ask such a question. This question must be asked by Russia itself and this West. And without the demand of the West, Russia must eliminate that non-justice and those double standards, according to which one can be one, and the other why
    it is impossible. But after all, after such a question, everyone will find the obvious answer that the destruction of the Russian
    Empire was the task of the West from the first decades of the existence of this Empire. And over the years and over the centuries, the West no longer mattered in what hypostasis this Empire — the Romanov Empire or the Red Empire of the USSR. The task for the West was one - to destroy. So how and from where instead of Little Russia this Ukraine appeared in general, this is only the first letter from a thick book about the West’s plans to destroy Russia. And the current independent Russia, the West will not work until such rulers as Nikolai II, Gorbachev, Yeltsin or even Khrushchev appear in it.
    1. Palmyra
      Palmyra 14 May 2020 10: 18 New
      +2
      I support, live with wolves, howl like a wolf. Business should not be in the first place. They reckon with the strong, not asking.
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 14 May 2020 09: 09 New
    -1
    Striped pave the way for retreat without losing face? An interesting publication, Bandera hair will begin to pull.
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 14 May 2020 12: 05 New
      +1
      Striped pave the way for retreat without losing face?

      Ukraine was not torn off in order to retreat. Belarus is the next target, the next tidbit. Divide and rule.
  13. Fishery
    Fishery 14 May 2020 09: 52 New
    +1
    the train has already left, it was necessary to act thinner before.
  14. cniza
    cniza 14 May 2020 12: 09 New
    +1
    That is why those whom the journalist addressed in his material are unlikely to heed his words and are unlikely to take that very “step back”, at least in the near future.


    Yeah, they’re also telling a journalist on the head that he’s not smart. Everything will be as always - only the West has interests, and everything else is built and subordinated ...
  15. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 14 May 2020 12: 37 New
    -3
    E. Russia doesn’t need this miracle, it does influence it anyway, Dill died, so it died, we have enough of our problems from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok.
  16. 1536
    1536 14 May 2020 13: 01 New
    0
    Никаких "шагов" никакой Запад делать навстречу России не будет. Не так воспитан.
    Скорее всего, что лет через 10-15 Украина будет иметь для России такое же значение, как и любая другая страна на карте, -- не больше и не меньше. Конечно, если американские "партнеры" до того времени не натравят украинские вооруженные формирования на приграничные районы России с целью дестабилизации в них положения, или не организуют пиратские флотилии на Черном и Азовском морях для ограбления торговых и рыболовецких судов, идущих под российским флагом. В этом случае у России выбор будет невелик.
  17. jaroff
    jaroff 14 May 2020 13: 30 New
    +3
    I do not understand such a thing as the peoples of Ukraine and Russia. Millions of Soviet citizens born in different places of a huge country, at one moment became different nations, not according to the fifth column, but according to registration. A person who was born in Ukraine, who graduated from a university in Kharkov and went to Komsomolsk in one instant distribution became the people of Russia, and the other who was born in the RSFSR, graduated from a school, for example in the Volga region, but enrolled in a university in Odessa or Kiev or Kharkov, remained there by distribution, in an instant became the people of Ukraine. Insanity!
    1. Fishery
      Fishery 14 May 2020 14: 46 New
      0
      Well, people do not disappear so simply)))) they just start to be called differently)) and develop
  18. ApJlekuHo
    ApJlekuHo 14 May 2020 15: 45 New
    0
    Bought a country, it's time to populate it with Russian Muslims.
  19. faterdom
    faterdom 14 May 2020 16: 56 New
    0
    The journalist raises the question incorrectly, plows shallowly. In fact, the question for the USA and the West arises: who will now contain the greedy, crumbling and explosive Ukraine.
    After all, everything was so beautiful: Russia contains Ukraine-Anti-Russia, the Americans indicate how it is harder for us to spoil. Everyone is happy. The Russian elite, by the way, is also for some reason.
    Then, under the guise of the Olympics, the Americans wanted to quickly make a coup in the banana republic in order to take Crimea under themselves, having driven out, accordingly, the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
    Получили то что получили, в "наказание" России потратили много своего влияния и имиджа, прямого давления на Европу, провокацию с малазийским боингом, санкции, МВФ давно уже растоптал все свои принципы в отношении Украины, британский высокий суд позорится в 3-лярдовыми евробондами, стокгольмский арбитраж - понятно (такое нам больше никогда не варить), антироссийская истерия стала уже серьезным внутриполитическим фактором в США, мешающей нормальной работе, Украина добросовестно продолжает просить денег. Ежегодно.
    Russia even continues to support Ukraine in some way, but in general the choice is as follows: either the EU or the USA should take it for a long-term, apparently, content. And this is not Georgia in scale, and in the likely crisis consequences.
    A virus, crisis, depression and a bright future.
    Вот откуда печаль: а не хочет ли Россия еще покормить бандеровцев, ну до лучших времен, пока Америка выздоровеет, хотя бы, Ведь так хорошо было бы, А Америка, ладно уж, признает интересы России, и даже сама напомнит, что это "братский народ".
    Так что, оплатим бесплатный проезд "хероям АТО"?
  20. APASUS
    APASUS 14 May 2020 21: 13 New
    0
    Why should the US recognize Russia's interests in Ukraine or somewhere else? The Americans systematically lead the world to war, systematically withdrew from all restrictive treaties (only strategic offensive arms remained), provoke conflicts, but they themselves do not climb there. It doesn’t matter where Russia - Ukraine-EU, China-India, Saudi Arabia-Iran, Israel - neighbors they need a world conflict