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How Russia to respond to the European war with monuments to Soviet soldiers: a few suggestions

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Recently, the Russian media has significantly increased the number of publications on the demolition of monuments to Soviet soldiers who died during the liberation of other countries during the Second World War. This does not mean that such cases began to appear recently. It’s just that they’re not only not responding to them before, but even not reporting them. But there is a real war with monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators.


Apart from single incidents, the destruction of Soviet monuments in Eastern Europe took up almost immediately after the collapse of the USSR. Since Russia is considered the legal successor of the Soviet Union, these attacks are directed primarily at it, that is, at you and me. Those who are involved in the desecration and destruction of our memorials in Europe are trying to equate the Soviet Union with Nazi Germany, to instill in Europe the idea of ​​the USSR in the image of an aggressor country. Then it will not be difficult to project this image into modern Russia.


All this will continue until the Russian Federation takes adequate and effective measures. Indeed, while our country will endure, attempts to "wipe its feet" will not stop.

Of course, by adequate and effective measures I do not mean “expressing concern” and other diplomatic curtsies. Trying to shame the vandals or teach them the mind is also not an option. After all, these are not small children, but adults, mature people. Here it is necessary to act proactively.

Inadequate measures


The purpose of the measures taken by Russia is to restore respect to our fallen soldiers, to leave alone their graves and monuments dedicated to them. Not at all necessarily more decisive measures will help to achieve the goal, especially if they lack adequacy.

There are proposals, for example, that in response to the dismantling of the monument to Marshal Konev in Prague, Russia renames the metro station “Prague” and assign it the name Konev. Or to erect a monument to Marshal opposite the Czech embassy in Moscow. Some "wits" immediately suggested renaming sports slippers-Czechs into "horses" or prohibiting the baking of "Prague" cakes.

I think that these proposals to those who removed the monument to Marshal are neither cold nor hot.

The farthest, it seems, came Metropolitan Hilarion of Volokolamsk. He put forward the idea for a dismantled monument to Konev to remove a monument to one of the Czech leaders in Russia. There are few candidates: the communist writer Julius Fucik, whose monuments were removed in the Czech Republic, or Yaroslav Hasek, the author of the well-known “soldier Schweik”.

Well, do not "demolish" the same demolition in Chelyabinsk or elsewhere! They can pull someone along! For example, red Latvians or Hungarians, who at times were atrocious during the Civil War in Russia, are no less than Czechs. Or those who decided not to let the Czechoslovak corps out of Russia (and among these there are “untouchables”), which became the reason for his further “exploits”. And they are not so “white”, these “white-shoulders”, if they so easily handed Kolchak into the hands of the “red”.

In general, some offer to become like European barbarians and begin to destroy the monuments. They would also propose to act in the same manner in response to Nazi crimes.

Russian justice against European vandals


The previous criticism does not mean that I justify the vandals, I propose to sit back and do nothing. On the contrary, I believe that you can’t wait, you need to act quickly and firmly.


Moreover, I consider the series of steps that Russia has already taken today in response to the demolition of Soviet monuments to be absolutely correct. Of course, one should start acting much earlier, back in the 90s, but better later than never.

I mean the law adopted in April 2020, which provides for criminal liability for the destruction of memorials to heroes of the Great Patriotic War. Now for this in Russia relies up to five years in prison. And the law applies not only to Russian citizens and monuments installed in the Russian Federation, but also to memorials abroad demolished by foreigners.

The bill was personally introduced by President Vladimir Putin, although the idea itself came from the Russian Ministry of Defense. Literally the day after the signing of the bill, its relevance was confirmed. Then in the Czech capital dismantled a monument to Soviet Marshal Konev.

By the way, soon Sergey Shoigu turned to the head of the Investigative Committee, Alexander Bastrykin, urging him to actively prosecute foreign citizens who were responsible for the demolition of monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators.

Of course, both in Russia and in Europe they understand that those guilty will not go to jail, at least immediately after the announcement of the verdict.

Of course, Poland or the Czech Republic will not hand over their citizens to Russian justice, and Interpol will not put them on the international wanted list. And the "long arms" of the Russian special services will not "take them out" in order to bring them to justice, as the Israelis did with Nazi criminals.

But this does not mean that punishment will not follow for them. Firstly, a court decision against those responsible for the demolition of Soviet monuments will be tantamount to the imposition of personal sanctions by Russia. These people will not be able to enter our country, and if they do, they will immediately appear before Russian justice. And even if today they will not be extradited to Russia, it is not known what will happen tomorrow. After all, the international situation is changing, but the court decision remains. And it is possible that at one point the guilty party will suffer a deserved punishment.

Therefore, it is necessary to respond to every demolition or desecration of the monument to the heroes-liberators of Europe, bring the matter to court and pronounce the sentence, even if it cannot be immediately realized.

In addition, we must not forget that among those who died in Europe during the Great Patriotic War there were not only Russians and representatives of other peoples of Russia. In the ranks of the Red Army, soldiers from other union republics, which today are independent states, also fought. Thus, the desecration of burials and monuments to Soviet soldiers is an insult to the peoples of these countries. Therefore, they should also enact laws that pursue vandals.

Of course, not all former republics of the USSR will begin to adopt such laws. But if this is done by several countries in the post-Soviet space, then the vandals will feel even more uncomfortable, because not only Russia will close for them, but also, for example, other EAEU countries. I consider this one of the options for not only responding to the actions of vandals (including those denounced by state powers), but also for protecting historical the truth.

Not only criminal liability


Russia can influence the destroyers of Soviet monuments not only with a fear of criminal liability, especially since it is impossible to fully implement court decisions. There are other levers.

For example, do not discount the opportunities for diplomacy. You can take an example from the same UK, as they did in the story with the "poisoning" of the Skripals. Without blinking an eye, London sent our diplomats out of the country on a far-fetched occasion, and some other states unanimously followed the British example. Even without trial and investigation regarding the real culprits of his poisoning (if it was at all ...).

In the case of monuments, why should we be shy? Here, and all the evidence is available. The authorities themselves in those countries where dismantling is carried out are not embarrassed to broadcast everything. They would call the ambassador of the culprit country “on the carpet” to the Russian Foreign Ministry and announce the expulsion of diplomats. And not a year later, but the day after the act of vandalism.

And do not underestimate the economic leverage. Imagine if Russia after the incident with the monument to Konev would declare a boycott of Czech goods, stop buying Skoda, Czech beer and other products. Until a monument is put in place. The Russian market is not so small that you can safely lose it. Losses are inevitable. Or for starters, you can raise duties on goods from the Czech Republic, Poland, the Baltic countries. It would be worthwhile to introduce other economic sanctions in order to painfully hit the guilty in the pocket.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 14 May 2020 06: 43 New
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    Well, do not "demolish" the same demolition in Chelyabinsk or elsewhere! .
    I am with two hands! repeat
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 14 May 2020 07: 01 New
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      Well, do not "demolish" the same demolition in Chelyabinsk or elsewhere! .

      And I am categorically against the demolition of any monuments in Russia, with the exception of those that glorify the occupiers and murderers of Russian citizens ... Mannerheim, for example, or Krasnov, who has his hands to the elbow in the blood of the Russian people.
      I propose to each memorial to the white whales a memorial plaque listing all their crimes during the years of their terror in Russia ... and also to deal with the monuments of German, Hungarian and Italian fascists on our land.
      1. Varyag_0711
        Varyag_0711 14 May 2020 07: 31 New
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        This is all nonsense. There will be no boycotts of Skodas and Cheesh beer. Once again, I state that the fight against monuments is not in the Czech Republic, Germany or Poland, it is in Russia. We ourselves allow this, and we do not just allow it, but we ourselves lead this movement. The Kremlin's policy is only in words, but in reality everything is done just the opposite. Where do you think all these posters for May 9, depicting German, Finnish or American soldiers "liberators" come from? So is it a mistake of the performers? Or maybe this is a targeted order? Who removes, pays for all these shitty masterpieces like "penal battalions", "bastards" and other things like "zulfiya spreads her legs"?
        There will be neither the Czechs, nor the Poles, nor the Baltic states, nor the races of ANYTHING from the Kremlin. Just because they are doing what the Kremlin benefits.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 14 May 2020 08: 23 New
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          Yes, what kind of order?) They did a stretch for May 9 to the office so wrote Happy Victory Day and even with two exclamation marks. performers crap constantly.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 14 May 2020 08: 54 New
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            Dismantling of the monument to Konev in Prague.


            In fact, for such things, as folk wisdom says, they knock out a wedge with a wedge. This should be done by the Russian Federation, demolishing monuments in the Russian Federation to former invaders and occupiers in response to their revenge as a foreign enemy.

            And this will be a very effective diplomatic method! Because he hits back with "artillery fire" on material propaganda from the current aggressor - the descendants of former foreign invaders.
            And I do not see in this answer the lack of proper logic on our part. Yeah it says they deserved it, they got it.
            1. alone
              alone 14 May 2020 12: 07 New
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              Quote: Tatiana
              This should be done by the Russian Federation, demolishing monuments in the Russian Federation to former invaders and occupiers in response to their revenge as a foreign enemy.

              belay In Russia, there are monuments to the invaders and occupiers of Russia?
              1. 210ox
                210ox 14 May 2020 12: 17 New
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                The same "monument" to Krasnov. Rossosh is a monument to the Italians.
                1. alone
                  alone 14 May 2020 12: 22 New
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                  Quote: 210ox
                  The same "monument" to Krasnov. Rossosh is a monument to the Italians.

                  And for what merits did these monuments put?
                  What is the monument to Krasnov? For the Cossack units of the SS?
                  1. 210ox
                    210ox 14 May 2020 12: 28 New
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                    You asked, are there any monuments to the invaders and invaders? I answered, yes. For what merits? There are characters, even on our site, WHO THIS SHIT ANYWHERE.
                    1. alone
                      alone 14 May 2020 12: 32 New
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                      Quote: 210ox
                      . For what merits? There are characters, even on our site, FOR THIS SHIT ANYWHERE.

                      Mdaa ... Here it is necessary to start with this .. First, it is necessary to understand within the country to whom and for what to erect monuments. So it’s possible to get to the von Panwitz monument .. Between the red and Panwitz one difference ... the first Russian, the second German
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 14 May 2020 13: 07 New
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                        Alone! Are you a citizen of which country? It just matters to us to fully understand the possible level of your awareness as an interlocutor and the reasons for your very question?
                      2. alone
                        alone 14 May 2020 13: 18 New
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                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Alone! Are you a citizen of which country? It just matters to us to fully understand the possible level of your awareness as an interlocutor and the reasons for your very question?

                        I am a citizen of Azerbaijan, where May 9 is celebrated as a Public Holiday .. On duty, I had and have to be in many places both in the CIS and abroad ... Something that was seen in this white light
                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 14 May 2020 13: 28 New
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                        Quote: lonely.
                        I am a citizen of Azerbaijan, where May 9 is celebrated as a Public Holiday .. On duty, I had and have to be in many places both in the CIS and abroad ...

                        We will congratulate you personally and in your person the citizens of Azerbaijan on the past holiday!
                        On the 75th anniversary of the Victory Day of the USSR in World War II over Nazi Germany! love
                        I wish you health, happiness, success and all the best in your personal life and the prosperity of your country! drinks
                      4. alone
                        alone 14 May 2020 13: 32 New
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                        Quote: Tatiana
                        I congratulate you personally and in your person the citizens of Azerbaijan on the past holiday!
                        On the 75th anniversary of the Victory Day of the USSR in World War II over Nazi Germany!
                        I wish you health, happiness, success and all the best in your personal life and the prosperity of your country!
                        Reply

                        Thank you for your congratulations .. I wish you what you wished me .. Happiness, Well-being and Health, which is important in these difficult days hi drinks love love love
                2. 210ox
                  210ox 14 May 2020 20: 29 New
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                  I agree with you. Unfortunately, in our society there is a soft statement from t y rk and. Koi fry sausages on the Eternal Flame, throw snow into the burner, and simply engage in vandalism. They probably take an example where, under the guise of cost optimization, they turn off the gas supply, stop caring for the monuments.
        2. Tatyana
          Tatyana 14 May 2020 12: 45 New
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          Quote: lonely
          Quote: Tatiana
          This should be done by the Russian Federation, demolishing monuments in the Russian Federation to former invaders and occupiers in response to their revenge as a foreign enemy.

          belay In Russia, there are monuments to the invaders and occupiers of Russia?

          Are available.
          For instance. See the article on "VO" "Fans of the fascists turned to Putin for protection" January 18, 2019 -
          https://topwar.ru/152676-poklonniki-fashistov-obratilis-k-putinu-za-zaschitoj.html
    2. Tatyana
      Tatyana 14 May 2020 09: 19 New
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      Yes, what kind of order?) They did a stretch for May 9 to the office so wrote Happy Victory Day and even with two exclamation marks. performers crap constantly.

      stop Do not order from those who are cheaper! It will be more expensive for itself, because it always comes out sideways.
      It is usually the foreign "labor" migrants who carry out such an order physically. They simply overdid it due to illiteracy. yes They probably wanted the best - but it turned out as always! laughing Someone from ours is someone who is constantly standing over and needs to lead them.
      1. Alf
        Alf 14 May 2020 19: 00 New
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        Quote: Tatiana
        Over them from ours, someone is inseparable to stand and lead

        The whole problem is that ours are not very well understood ... MP-44, too, a resident of the eastern satrapies added a monument to Mikhail Timofeevich?
    3. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 14 May 2020 10: 09 New
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      Quote: carstorm 11
      Yes, what order?) ... performers mess constantly.

      And what did you do with this stretch? Left to hang? Or forced to redo?

      I think this all applies to outdoor advertising. There are rules for its placement. So it is necessary to require city councils from the people's representatives that they introduce requirements for the content of such posters into these rules and introduce responsibility for their violations.

      But about the fact that
      Of course, Poland or the Czech Republic will not hand over their citizens to Russian justice, and Interpol will not put them on the international wanted list.

      Then you can try to beat them on the most sick - on the wallet. All of these figures can be found their firms, accounts, real estate, which can be arrested (at least sue and delay in making a decision). All Russian firms warn of the dangers of concluding transactions with these firms and individuals.

      And there is a reinforced concrete reason for expelling diplomats:
      VIOLATION OF A CURRENT ACT OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.
      You see, in nature there is such a document as “Agreement on friendly relations and cooperation between the Russian Federation and the Czech Republic” ratified on August 5, 1994, and in it - article 18, in which the Russian / Czech language says that both parties are OBLIGATED
      “... to provide mutual assistance in the preservation and study of the cultural and artistic heritage of their countries, including the protection of historical monuments and culture. ”

      Question to the Foreign Ministry - why doesn’t it react in any way to a violation of an international treaty?

      I think Russians can ask this question to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs through their people's representatives - there should be at least some benefit from them. Maybe it's time to learn how to use these "servants of the people"? smile
      1. Octopus
        Octopus 14 May 2020 10: 25 New
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        Quote: Hlavaty
        All of these figures can be found their firms, accounts, real estate, which can be arrested (at least sue and delay in making a decision).

        Do the heads of Czech municipalities? In Russia?

        I think you messed up something. On the contrary - yes, there are cases.

        Quote: Hlavaty
        including the protection of historical and cultural monuments. ”

        The monument of the 80th year is not a monument of history or culture. The latter was proposed to move him to the courtyard of the Russian embassy in advance.

        Quote: Hlavaty
        Maybe it's time to learn how to use these "servants of the people"?

        Wow. What a good idea for such a strange reason.
        1. Hlavaty
          Hlavaty 14 May 2020 10: 32 New
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          Quote: Octopus
          The monument of the 80th year is not a monument of history or culture.

          Based on what do you make such a statement?
          1. shahor
            shahor 14 May 2020 14: 05 New
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            Quote: Hlavaty
            Based on what do you make such a statement?

            And you know, from a legal point of view, the Octopus is probably right! Objects are recognized as historical and cultural monuments on the basis of a decision of an authorized body. Well, as in Russia, a historical-cultural monument of federal-local significance. It is protected by the state. Was the Konev Monument in Prague recognized as such in accordance with Czech law? If not, then references to the 1994 agreement will not help. And the expulsion of Czech diplomats from the Russian Federation will entail the expulsion of Russian diplomats from the Czech Republic.
        2. Olgovich
          Olgovich 14 May 2020 10: 49 New
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          Quote: Octopus
          The monument of the 80th year is not a cultural monument.
          With what fright "is not"? belay

          Who are you to a declare?

          Никто.

          That's what you come from. hi
          1. Octopus
            Octopus 14 May 2020 11: 12 New
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            Quote: Olgovich
            Who are you to say that?

            )))
            What is and what is not a monument in Prague-6 and, emnip, Prague-13 is decided by the relevant municipal councils, unless otherwise expressly agreed in the intergovernmental agreement. Konev is not stipulated (the Czechs would not have signed such a thing in life), military burials are stipulated.

            And yes. None the monuments of the 80th year are not related either to culture or to history. This is an element of urban improvement. And they know, respectively, local ZhEKi. They want - they deliver, they want - they remove. If they want it, they will altogether remake it into something tolerant and diverse, you will be interrogated.
            1. Hlavaty
              Hlavaty 14 May 2020 11: 23 New
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              You explain in such detail, but do not refer to any documents. Is this your personal opinion?
              Or can you cite some international document that regulates this?
              Because based on your logic, all historical and cultural monuments should have been listed in the “Agreement on friendly relations and cooperation between the Russian Federation and the Czech Republic”. Otherwise, Article 18 loses its meaning if some elders of the microdistrict decide whether it is a monument or not.
              1. Octopus
                Octopus 14 May 2020 12: 09 New
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                Quote: Hlavaty
                Otherwise, Article 18 loses its meaning if some elders of the microdistrict decide whether it is a monument or not.

                )))
                It is a pity that you did not read the agreement to which you are referring.
                Article 21
                Each Contracting Party will provide care for military graves and military monuments of the other Contracting Party in its territory, their preservation and access to them.

                They tried to make Konev a military monument, not a monument stories. Monument stories Soviet remake of the 80th year is not. On this occasion, the Czech Foreign Ministry said.
                The monument to Marshal Konev is a military monument, and the Treaty of Friendly Relations and Cooperation of 1993 applies to it, but the relocation of the monument does not contradict the text of the Treaty. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs expects that the monument will be treated with dignity, "the Czech diplomatic department said in a statement.

                Quote at https://ria.ru/20200410/1569887475.html
                The Czechs said that the monument to Konev is not being sawn, but is being moved to the museum. They suggested, by the way, to move to the Russian embassy. I.e save and access provided. And the details are already their internal affair.
            2. Olgovich
              Olgovich 14 May 2020 11: 47 New
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              Quote: Octopus
              What is and what is not a monument in Prague-6 and, emnip, Prague-13 is decided by the relevant municipal councils, unless otherwise expressly agreed in the intergovernmental agreement. Konev is not stipulated (the Czechs would not have signed such a thing in life), military burials are stipulated.

              don't talk nonsense--
              1. Enough. what he recognized by RUSSIA as a monument of its culture to Czechs, and, according to the above Agreement, Czech Republic must protect them

              2. Oddly enough, but a monument to Konev was INTRODUCED in official register of protected MILITARY burials Czech Republic.
              and was removed from there after the demolition of the monument.

              It was excavated by Czech journalists themselves. See Inosmi article
              Quote: Octopus
              And yes. No monuments of the 80th year are related either to culture or to history. This is an element of urban accomplishment. And they know, respectively, local ZhEKi.

              fool lol
              Monuments - NOT benches and litter bins, do not carry nonsense again.
              Quote: Octopus
              You will be interrogated.

              belay fool
              1. Octopus
                Octopus 14 May 2020 12: 35 New
                +1
                Quote: Olgovich
                enough. that it is recognized by RUSSIA as a monument of its culture in the Czechs, and, according to the above Agreement, the Czech Republic is obliged to protect them

                No, not enough.
                Article 1
                The Contracting Parties ... will be consistently guided by the principles of ... non-interference in internal affairs,

                Quote: Olgovich
                was entered in the official register of protected military graves of the Czech Republic.
                and was removed from there after the demolition of the monument.

                I look, you are more informed than Russian TV
                “The monument to Konev was not included in the register of military burials, and if so, the district authorities could control its fate. Neither the president, nor the prime minister, nor the minister of foreign affairs could interfere with the demolition according to the law. It turned out that in the Prague-6 area where it stood a monument, inveterate Russophobes from the TOP-09 party are in power, "explains Vadim Trukhachev, senior lecturer at the Department of Foreign Regional Studies and Foreign Policy of the Russian State Humanitarian University.

                https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3254001
                Quote: Olgovich
                It was excavated by Czech journalists themselves. See Inosmi article

                )))
                Raptor-tv?
                These are not very Czech and not very journalists.
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 14 May 2020 12: 58 New
                  -5
                  Quote: Octopus
                  No, not enough.

                  That's enough.
                  Quote: Octopus
                  I look, you are more informed than Russian TV
                  “The monument to Konev was not included in the register of military burials, and if so, the district authorities could control its fate. Neither the president, nor the prime minister, nor the minister of foreign affairs could interfere with the demolition according to the law. It turned out that in the Prague-6 area where it stood a monument, inveterate Russophobes from the TOP-09 party are in power, "explains Vadim Trukhachev, senior lecturer at the Department of Foreign Regional Studies and Foreign Policy of the Russian State Humanitarian University.

                  https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3254001
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  It was excavated by Czech journalists themselves. See Inosmi article

                  )))
                  Raptor-tv?
                  These are not very Czech and not very journalists.

                  What is the gender difference? belay

                  Someone denied the facts?

                  You for example? no!

                  Monument to Marshal Konev for many years was listed in the Central register of military graves of the Ministry of Defense under the number CZE0006-417772.

                  MILITARY BURIALS, hear? which Czechs are obliged to keep in their places under ALL treaties.

                  And they quietly demolished and deleted from the Register.

                  disgrace ...

                  did you get it? No.
                2. Octopus
                  Octopus 14 May 2020 13: 08 New
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                  Quote: Olgovich
                  Someone denied the facts?

                  Are these the facts?

                  This is a sketch on the fan of one of Simonyan's dumps.

                  On the other hand, you are right. And the activities of Raptor TV, and other pro-Russian, and even more pro-Soviet statements by Czech politicians, starting with President Zeman, should not be left without attention. Attention to treason.
                3. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 14 May 2020 13: 21 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Octopus
                  Are these the facts?

                  these are FACTS:
                  The monument to Marshal Konev for many years was listed in Central Register of War Graves Ministry of Defense under the number CZE0006-417772.

                  and here it is:
                  Quote: Octopus
                  This is a sketch on the fan of one of Simonyan's dumps.

                  On the other hand, you are right. And the activities of Raptor TV, and other pro-Russian, and even more pro-Soviet statements by Czech politicians, starting with President Zeman, should not be left without attention. Attention to treason.

                  empty russophobic evil chatter- to refute them from powerlessness.
                4. Octopus
                  Octopus 14 May 2020 13: 36 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  these are FACTS:

                  )))
                  This is raptor-tv text, not facts. Raptor-tv - an office who needs a well-known.
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  empty Russophobian vicious talk - to refute them from powerlessness.

                  By the way, I found here the beautiful. Written by Sergey Feliksovich Chernyakhovsky, Russian political philosopher, political scientist, publicist, professor at Moscow State University, member of the Public Council of the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation.
                  And here, too, everything is clear: Kolarge, Navotny and Grzyb are neo-Nazis and accomplices of Hitlerism. All decisions that can be made on them are predetermined by the decisions of the Nuremberg Tribunal. Russia, as the winner of Nazism and a permanent member of the UN Security Council, has all moral grounds for the consistent implementation of these decisions and retaliation against these neo-Nazis, as well as others like them.

                  If the Czech Republic refuses to transfer them to Russia for a public and show trial - both Russia and the Czech anti-fascists, as well as the anti-fascists of other countries, have all moral and legal grounds for enforcing these decisions in an explicit manner.

                  In exactly the same way that Israel and its special services once implemented acts of retaliation against Nazi criminals: methodically, year after year, punishing one Nazi cattle after another - even in Latin America, even in Australia, even in Africa.

                  Someone will say that the mentioned Prague neo-Nazis, unlike the Nazis of Hitler times, have not killed anyone yet - this does not matter: they abused the memory of those who defeated Nazism. And the attempted memory is a bigger and more cynical crime than this or that physical murder.

                  And it is necessary to accustom all like them to the fact that they will pay for their attempt on honor and memory with their lives. This is not murder - this is retaliation against criminals. And you do not need fairy tales and fakes about ricin or the “newbie”: these platitudes cannot serve as the Instrument of Retribution - there is too much vague and controversial, implicit and debatable. Unobvious.

                  Retribution should be obvious.

                  Neo-Nazis must receive retaliation exactly as clearly and publicly as the Nazi criminals received during the war: brightly, impressively and demonstratively. How Reinhard Heydrich got it in the Czech Republic. How did the Nazis get it from the hands of the Resistance in France and Belgium. How did the Nazi Gauleiter receive it in Belarus and Ukraine.

                  This is not the case when Retribution must remain secret - it must become explicit and demonstrative. Obvious. So that everyone who says at least a word in defense of neo-Nazis, knows: he is next.

                  The predecessors of today's neo-Nazis killed 27 million Soviet citizens. In many ways, by the way, with the help of Czech weapons and Czech tanks. Today's Czech neo-Nazis are abusing their memory and the memory of those who stopped these crimes.

                  And they deserved Retribution - as their predecessors deserved it, which year after year they caught in different countries of the world and destroyed Israel. When the report on the Acts of Retaliation for each of them lay on the table to the Prime Minister of the country, as well as the report on the progress of the search for the next person sentenced.


                  https://izborsk-club.ru/19278

                  I am sure that the position of a member of the Public Council of the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation should be spread as widely as possible, especially in the Czech Republic itself. Anyone have any ideas how to do this?
                5. Hlavaty
                  Hlavaty 14 May 2020 13: 50 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Octopus
                  the position of a member of the Public Council of the Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation should be spread as widely as possible, especially in the Czech Republic itself. Anyone have any ideas how to do this?

                  Through anti-fascist organizations. For example antifashist.org
  2. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 14 May 2020 11: 34 New
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    How touchingly Olgych fights for Soviet monuments, he would have fought against the false Ukrobander figures about the "Holodomor" and against the Polish Goebbels version of the Katyn case. Hypocrite, ugh.
  • Varyag_0711
    Varyag_0711 14 May 2020 10: 13 New
    +4
    carstorm 11 (Dmitry)
    Yes, what kind of order?) They did a stretch for May 9 to the office so wrote Happy Victory Day and even with two exclamation marks. performers crap constantly.
    Well, let's say. And who cares paying modern films about the Second World War? Or do our president have no idea what the ministry of culture is actually doing? What does it allocate money for, what does it finance?
    Why on earth then do we need the Ministry of Culture? What culture do we have? Do we even have it? What such high feelings can modern Russian cinema bring up among our youth?
    Actually, cinema is one of the pillars of the upbringing of the younger generation, but I don’t understand at all who we bring up on such a movie slag? Or from watching the movie scum the youth will have a massive desire to go to defend their homeland?
    I still remember how in the 9th or 10th grade they took us all together to the film "Come and See". We went to the cinema laughing, joking, leaving the cinema was no longer amusement, not laughing at all.
    Or let's say from watching the propaganda films "In the zone of special attention" and "Return move" all the guys wanted to go to the army, and not just to the army, but to the landing force or the marines. What kind of army would today's youth want to join after, say, "penal battalion"?
    And what, the president is not aware of all this? And what is Mishustin busy with, is he up to date or also absent? The fact of the matter is that all this is a direct order of the Kremlin to denigrate the entire Soviet heritage and the memory of the Second World War as its most striking component.
    1. Andrey Shch
      Andrey Shch 14 May 2020 10: 42 New
      0
      Quote: Varyag_0711
      And what is Mishustin busy with, is he up to date or also absent?

      Here it is just missing. Coronavirus heals. tongue
    2. Kronos
      Kronos 14 May 2020 11: 37 New
      -2
      Movies are specially made, but all sorts of little things like soldiers are not the ones on the poster in all countries in the USA, for example, it was also confused
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 14 May 2020 12: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: Varyag_0711
      And who cares paying modern films about the Second World War? Or do our president have no idea what the ministry of culture is actually doing? What does it allocate money for, what does it finance?
      Why on earth then do we need the Ministry of Culture?

      Duc, this is ... laundry same. smile
      And I'm not talking about a joke, but about the established practice of laundering the actual transfer of state budget money into the pockets of the conscience of the nation, the best people of the country — our creative intelligentsia. Which, with this money, realizes the flight of her imagination, now not bound by any conventions. In Soviet times, this intelligentsia created with a fig in your pocketbecause there was still a chance to fly out of the cage for an unabashed mindset. But now you can do everything, pour slop on the country for state money now in the trend.
      And any attempt ask for government money stumbles upon an organized rebuff of cultural figures who immediately start yelling about the return of the 37th year and about political repressions of those who disagree with the authorities. And the fact that those who disagree with the authorities live on the money of the authorities is bashfully silent.
    4. IC
      IC 15 May 2020 01: 40 New
      +1
      Go down to the ground. Young people from an early age, not only in Russia, are growing up on American cartoons and movies.
  • DEDPIHTO
    DEDPIHTO 14 May 2020 10: 25 New
    0
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Yes, what kind of order?) They did a stretch for May 9 to the office so wrote Happy Victory Day and even with two exclamation marks. performers crap constantly.

    wassat Rzhu, wallowing .. laughing ..no, the performers were not mistaken, your holiday is the bourgeois counter-revolution of 91-93. It’s a pity the hard workers didn’t even have a portrait of Vlasov pinned on your anti-Soviet kennel .. tongue
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 14 May 2020 08: 37 New
    0
    The author simply smeared the known substance with a thin layer! Already how much has been written about the long-suffering monument, so no, he decided and he had a hand in it! Moreover, the specifics are not proposed. NO. Well, so effective.
    I think more than one article will be written about this monument, the fertile ground ...
    But the fault lies not with the toothlessness of our situation. ALL authors, like bad doctors, try to stop the effect of the "disease", completely discarding the causes ...
  • gsev
    gsev 14 May 2020 16: 51 New
    +2
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    This is all nonsense. There will be no boycotts of Skodas and Cheesh beer.

    In fact, in the event of a wide boycott of Czech products in Russia, even beer, the attitude towards the monuments would immediately change there. An ordinary person can really put pressure on the Czechs by refusing beer. By the way, I’ll assume that brewing equipment can often be Czech.
    1. IC
      IC 15 May 2020 01: 47 New
      +2
      Skoda belongs to the VW concern. Most breweries in the Czech Republic and Russia are owned by the same transnational concerns. You can not go there by tourists. But with the depreciation of the ruble and the income of the population, the number of tourists is already declining.
      Commodity turnover between countries is not significant.
  • Dwellernet
    Dwellernet 15 May 2020 11: 57 New
    0
    We also shoot films like "To Paris". And we bring up our children in the spirit of Kolya from Urengoy. And all this yourself, voluntarily.
  • beer-youk
    beer-youk 17 May 2020 21: 58 New
    0
    Why boycott? Why forbid? Just introduce an import duty on goods from the Czech Republic in the amount of, say, 500% percent. For Russia, the absence of these goods will pass almost imperceptibly, but for the Czech Republic it is a very thick polar fox!
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 14 May 2020 07: 53 New
    0
    I strongly agree! There are a number of filthy ones, for example, I am a Ukrainian and from an old goat family - but I have no place on the same land with the monument to Krasnov, or Shkura, you are stunned! These - like Hitler, their name should be forgotten - a monument to them, where, how? It's a gun, guys. Here over there the author was talking about the Romanians ... How many Romanians did they beat in Voronezh? And they are Romanians. they are strangers ... How many pi-good ones, I don't know where to say ... And then the Czechs said, just hoping that the ROA "freed" them. And she faded cleanly with fright in front of the NKVD, and what, the NKVD had questions? There are liberators, and that's all, yeah ...
    1. novel66
      novel66 14 May 2020 09: 02 New
      +6
      Yes, and with Katyn it’s time to put all the points !!
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 14 May 2020 09: 25 New
        -2
        It seems to be set. And more than once, and more than once actually, more than one Union investigated ?!
        1. novel66
          novel66 14 May 2020 09: 26 New
          +4
          until an OFFICIAL statement about the Soviet Union’s involvement in the execution has been received!
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 14 May 2020 09: 43 New
            -4
            Did you remember the bike of Borukh Yeltsman?
            On August 25, 1993, during a visit to Poland, Boris Yeltsin laid a wreath at the monument to the victims of Katyn in Warsaw with the words "Forgive us".

            And so, as far as I remember, during the exhumation of the people it was different, under the leadership of such a leftist and nichrome who did not understand the medak ... Burdenko was called. The clinic. called his name - show? Lyakhi. the British. Canadians ... And they didn’t chop all the nichrome!
            1. novel66
              novel66 14 May 2020 09: 45 New
              +1
              But is there horseradish to chop? everything, ALL were killed by German weapons !!!
              1. Cowbra
                Cowbra 14 May 2020 10: 03 New
                -5
                I still laugh with a question for example - guys. Among the Poles there was, firstly, a crowd of war criminals - this is not a story that the zholnery practiced cutting techniques over prisoners of war. And they were shot. The question is where,? Now tell us why those creatures - they found their grave later - and further north, for some reason, these creatures were dragged to Katyn - well, just - why? Were they detained yesterday? Gurt? Not yesterday, they would have been transported. There was something serious and the phrase "I'm dying, but I don't give up" - where is it written? In the barracks of the NKVD convoy troops, about Brest. who doesn't know
                1. novel66
                  novel66 14 May 2020 10: 13 New
                  +2
                  however officially - we are to blame ... well, not ... is it?
                  1. Vladimir_2U
                    Vladimir_2U 14 May 2020 11: 24 New
                    +1
                    Accurate with a snooze, they banned me for much less.
                  2. novel66
                    novel66 14 May 2020 11: 27 New
                    +6
                    words are not enough .. angry with terrible force !!
                2. Cowbra
                  Cowbra 14 May 2020 12: 48 New
                  -2
                  On the Soros disassembly? The NKVD, like him, Be ... Where else is it?) Fool around for the thrones - why? Kohl will find. Well, since the cartridge as a provocation - they must be pulled out, and indeed - shot, under this condition - the Germans, their cartridge. oh! was it?
                3. novel66
                  novel66 14 May 2020 12: 57 New
                  +1
                  NKVD worked cleaner ... purely Fritzev’s habit - to spoil anywhere
                4. Cowbra
                  Cowbra 14 May 2020 15: 23 New
                  -2
                  I laugh for the reason that my grandfather is an NKVD-schnik, yeah, how the nits say - "zagryadryadi" Did he have stripes for wounds from God? Three plus 2 heavy? What did you get the Medals of Courage for? Full bow of Glory - in the rear, his mother ?! Or a Russian officer walked from Yelnya to Prague and trampled that bastard into the mud ?! By the way, in Prague, it is the second difficult, because Japan is already without him, so there were no fights there, he hooked with a clip ?!
                5. novel66
                  novel66 14 May 2020 16: 28 New
                  +3
                  I am not a liberal. and I know who stood near Stalingrad to death, your grandfather - three-time URRRA (the third - long !!)
                6. Cowbra
                  Cowbra 14 May 2020 16: 32 New
                  0
                  Grandfather is not alone, but the second is almost the entire war in the partisans. Already, alas. not here, but cheers three times to both of them. I caught my breath - and yours!
                  By the way, his first heavyweight is UNDER Stalingrad, art
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 14 May 2020 12: 08 New
    +2
    Judah Gorbachev began
    April 13, 1990 - USSR President M.S. Gorbachev handed over to the President of the Republic of Poland V. Jaruzelski copies of documents on the fate of Polish prisoners of war
    Putin repeated.
    During his visit to the memorial, Putin said that there could be no justification for Stalin's repression, without mentioning, however, the name of Stalin himself. Later, he did it at a press conference after talks with Tusk. "There can be no justification for these crimes, our country has given a clear political, legal, moral assessment of the atrocities of the totalitarian regime," Putin said. "And such an assessment is not subject to any revisions,"


    More details: https://www.newsru.com/russia/07apr2010/katyn.html
    Now he needs to be told that "The error came out. Overdid it."
    1. novel66
      novel66 14 May 2020 12: 12 New
      +1
      to the song "Well, what are you, the fryer handed back?"
    2. Eula
      Eula 14 May 2020 14: 14 New
      0
      And what was the regime in Poland at that time?
      1. novel66
        novel66 14 May 2020 16: 28 New
        +2
        and is it important?? request
  • ser56
    ser56 14 May 2020 15: 33 New
    -1
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    glorify the occupiers and killers of Russian citizens ..

    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    I propose to attach a commemorative plaque to each monument to the white whales

    you are very "logical" request if we fought officially with the Germans, Hungarians, and others, and their graves have the status of a military burial place, then the whites represented themselves only as a gang of murderers ... request
  • To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 14 May 2020 11: 16 New
    0
    Does the world understand only power?
    1. novel66
      novel66 14 May 2020 11: 28 New
      +3
      and when was it different?
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 14 May 2020 11: 33 New
        +1
        Is always . But Russia often showed disastrous benevolence for itself, and the Foreign Ministry smoked and banged teeth from the screens
  • Civil
    Civil 14 May 2020 11: 38 New
    +1
    In short, an effective response is only military. The rest is all barking mongrel.
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 14 May 2020 19: 13 New
    0
    and polish chiriy in katyn
  • LeonidL
    LeonidL 14 May 2020 06: 53 New
    16
    “Imagine if Russia, after the incident with the monument to Konev, would declare a boycott of Czech goods, stop buying Skoda, Czech beer and other products.” - An excellent idea, but only the support of the entire population is needed. Most likely, there will be a mass of indifferent people, liberals, creative and other dubious public who do not care about Konev, and the principle is simple "Vasya Pupkin wants Czech beer - Vasya drinks Czech beer", and there are those who will deliberately trample on buying Skoda. Therefore, it is better to apply everything at once on all fronts and diplomatic pressure - recall of the ambassador, economic and cultural. Well, what, and the monuments to legionaries in Russia are clearly foreign.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 14 May 2020 07: 04 New
      10
      I propose to demand from the Czech Republic the return of the gold of Russia that they stole from Kolchak ... here you need to work hard for historians and investigators of Russia.
      1. LeonidL
        LeonidL 14 May 2020 07: 17 New
        +1
        Great idea! I am joining!
      2. unaha
        unaha 14 May 2020 07: 58 New
        +8
        Anto yes ... And you can write in sportloto)))
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 14 May 2020 10: 12 New
          +1
          In sportloto it is not necessary ... but an example from the French who have achieved the payment of royal debts from modern Russia should be taken. smile
          1. Octopus
            Octopus 14 May 2020 10: 14 New
            +2
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            .a here is an example from the French who have achieved the payment of royal debts from modern Russia

            Did not achieve.
            1. unaha
              unaha 14 May 2020 10: 35 New
              +3
              How could they fail if: "France admitted that Russia transferred $ 50 million to pay off the debt on the so-called" tsarist "securities. Thus, the amount of the debt agreed in 1996 by Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin and his French counterpart Lionel Jospin in 1996, fully paid. " But they really refused to pay interest on bonds.

              “But the example of the French who finished off the payment of the tsarist debts from modern Russia should be taken” - indeed, we should take it. It is difficult to understand the cancellation of the mass of debts to countries that, of course, have no money, but there are resources, possible concessions, preferences in trade and politics ... But no, we just write off.
              1. Octopus
                Octopus 14 May 2020 10: 42 New
                +2
                Quote: unaha
                How did not achieve

                ))
                There were more holders of old bonds and shares (about 10 thousand different securities in total) in France than in Great Britain, and their interests were represented by the societies created back in the twenties. These societies diverged with the government in evaluating debt. The $ 400 million proposed by Russia, according to financiers, is, given inflation, no more than 2 percent of the total. But the contract was signed, and now the debt has been paid.


                Mr. Jospin, suddenly, in this situation worked for the Russian side, and not for his citizens. He waved a piece of paper that helped Russia resolve this rotten topic internationally.
                1. unaha
                  unaha 14 May 2020 11: 31 New
                  0
                  It's right. Lucky)
              2. Same lech
                Same lech 14 May 2020 10: 48 New
                0
                It is difficult to understand the cancellation of the mass of debts to countries that certainly have no money, but there are resources, possible concessions, preferences in trade and politics ... But no, we simply write off.

                And I can't understand it belay ... sometimes I think that people in the Kremlin who make such decisions are crazy.
                1. unaha
                  unaha 14 May 2020 11: 34 New
                  +1
                  Well, or it cannot be ruled out that all this is: "resources, possible concessions, preferences ...", take place ... but in the interests of narrow circles, after writing off the principal amounts.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 14 May 2020 07: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: LeonidL
      Russia after the incident with the monument to Konev would declare a boycott of Czech goods,

      Russia is a country! can introduce duties on Czech goods, it is called economic sanctions for unfriendly actions .... where does the nihilists and liberals?
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 14 May 2020 08: 25 New
      +1
      if you recall that Skoda has long been a Volkswagen and 90 percent of the Czech pipa has long fled into international holdings.
    4. Kronos
      Kronos 14 May 2020 11: 38 New
      -1
      The Russian market for the Czech Republic is not so big as to hurt
      1. LeonidL
        LeonidL 14 May 2020 17: 40 New
        -1
        So the Czech Republic itself is too small ...
  • Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 14 May 2020 06: 58 New
    10
    Well, yes, the easiest way to fight with monuments is that he is silent and cannot give change ....
    I support the author. If the people cannot accept their past, does it have a future ??? The question is, of course, interesting. And against the background of all-European tolerance, schizophrenia on the basis of human rights, etc., the war on monuments shows WHAT there is in fact "enlightened Western democracy" ...
    Everyone is equal to America, which has the death penalty and its laws are higher than international ones, but byaka is always Russia, and Belarus in general is "punishment" ...
    I am in favor of spitting on Western directions, defending one’s opinion, introducing one’s laws regarding liability for harm done to you by others and acting in a worse manner. Under the Union, they created their own civilization and seem to have grown up in people, and now, listening to the West, people are degrading ....
    Parent 1, parent 2 ... Ugh fool negative
    Personally, my opinion hi
    1. Morrrow
      Morrrow 16 May 2020 13: 55 New
      0
      Prague was then liberated by the 2nd division of the ROA, and therefore Konev was removed.
  • knn54
    knn54 14 May 2020 06: 59 New
    +6
    Mocking (as in the photo) by the grave of unknown soldiers is already a loss of human appearance.
    "Beat the ruble" - zlotys, crowns, etc.
    Enough gingerbread, ONLY a whip.
    1. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 14 May 2020 07: 40 New
      +1
      And who mocks the graves?
      1. knn54
        knn54 14 May 2020 07: 59 New
        0
        Zeev there is a big difference between the demolition of the monument to Konev and the demolition of the tombstone. And maybe not only the plate.
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 14 May 2020 08: 21 New
          +5
          Yes, there is a huge difference in the demolition of a monument to a foreign commander and the demolition of a tombstone. I can tell a family story about this. When I looked for the graves of my ancestors, I found the graves of the two dead brothers of my grandfather. One, a locker, died in the Smolensk region, was buried in a mass grave near the village, which he freed. The second, machine-gun crew commander, died of wounds in a hospital in East Prussia. The elder brother’s grave was moved twice from one village to another, there is not a single name on the grave. The grave of the younger is now located in the center of a small Polish city. On the Internet I found a photograph of a tombstone. With names and surnames, including my relative.
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 14 May 2020 10: 10 New
            +3
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            Yes, there is a huge difference in the demolition of a monument to a foreign commander and the demolition of a tombstone.

            My father is the opposite. Visiting the mass grave, where his brother is buried, he found the name of another, officially considered missing.
            There is a monument in Switzerland to A. Suvorov, sort of like the only foreign military man. Why do you think so? Because they remember the attitude of the half-starved and half-bloated Russian army towards them and honor its feat. The Swiss have always been able to fight.
            Modern squirrels crap not only for us, they crap in their past. They put it, because the monument is also Czechs. The proposal to demolish the monument to Y. Fucik will only please them. This offer is from a row of plywood crammed with mausoleum.
            We need a museum about the "arts" of the White Czechs, where to collect monuments to them. And, at the burial site, there are explanatory signs. For some reason, our local authorities are silent and do not hear protests against the installation of monuments to the White Czechs. Are you waiting for signals? Also why?
            The most effective method of bringing to feelings is economic. But, something tells me, it will not be.
      2. Cowbra
        Cowbra 14 May 2020 08: 17 New
        -3
        Your profession
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 14 May 2020 08: 48 New
      0
      Quote: knn54
      "Beat the ruble" - zlotys, crowns, etc.
      Enough gingerbread, ONLY a whip.

      I support. And also take into account everyone who sneered at the monuments. In terms of coronavirus - the first swallow. There will be others. They will also come running and ask: "Russia! Help!" And this is where you need to show the figures of 3 fingers. No help for those who do not appreciate our fallen!
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 14 May 2020 07: 03 New
    12
    Why have they started writing "Russia" in the headlines lately? We have two Russia. Russia of officials, which for the love of the West will sell and betray. It was this bureaucratic Russia that began the struggle with the Soviet past, it was they who were indifferent to the demolition of Soviet monuments.
    And Russia is a people that, alas, so far can only shrug.
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 14 May 2020 08: 24 New
      -3
      And Russia is a people that, alas, so far can only shrug.

      Well, yes, which at one time brought to power the applause of the EBN.
    2. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 14 May 2020 08: 31 New
      +5
      That's right. Two Russia-WE and THEY. We are a grandmother living on 10 thousand rubles, WE are a teacher with a salary of 14 thousand rubles, WE collect SMS money for treating a child, WE will retire at 65, WE will work on shifts and two jobs, in order to learn a child or pay a mortgage, WE-work-THEY-sell natural resources for candy wrappers and add money abroad, THEY-buy villas, houses, yachts abroad, teach children there, THEY talk about pride in the History of our country, and they themselves bashfully hammer in plywood Lenin's Mausoleum on May 9, THEY tell us, the state did not ask us to give birth oh, there is no money, but you hold on, macaroni everywhere are the same, treat this with understanding, lived and did not whine. All this fuel for the fire of the Civil War. Our neighbors see it and do what they want. Because they do not like the country, in CT we live. And they won’t do anything to protect our History. How ? If they bought real estate, they have citizenship in the same Czech Republic, they store money there. Where the smell of dough, our Foreign Ministry throats a throat at the UN, where our honor is a mouth shut and slurred tracking.
      1. IC
        IC 15 May 2020 01: 56 New
        0
        Who did you vote for in the election?
        Or have they been sent to you from Mars?
    3. Andrey Shch
      Andrey Shch 14 May 2020 11: 00 New
      -1
      Aren't officials the people? Why? And who do you refer to as officials? But Gazprom is not formally a state organization, and the head of Gazprom is not a civil servant. Where do we take Miller? And Deripaska, for example, and many more, to put it mildly, not poor people. And the people are downright white and fluffy, and at one time the mass of "ordinary" people did not shout with foam at the mouth: "Yeltsin, Yeltsin"? You seem to be not a green youth, but your picture is very black and white.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 14 May 2020 11: 43 New
        -1
        Do not like the word officials, consider them liberals, as you prefer. I simply outlined the phenomenon, struggling with Soviet history, began to rewrite in Russia. And the West supported it. And if the Russian authorities born in the Soviet Union did not forget where they came from, then the West, beware, scold our history.
        1. Andrey Shch
          Andrey Shch 14 May 2020 12: 47 New
          +2
          I don’t like cliches and “name-calling”, but in essence I agree with such a formulation of the question: they themselves have “done” their history and we also want others to respect us. First of all, you need to start with yourself, and then the "partners" will not be rude once again.
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 14 May 2020 07: 09 New
    12
    For example, red Latvians or Hungarians, who at times were atrocious during the Civil War in Russia, no less than Czechs
    Wow, that's strange, the people's memory remained about the atrocities of the Czechs, but not particularly about the Red Latvians and Hungarians, except in the memories of emigrants, such as Bunin. And it seems to be the correct article, but the author daubed "a piece of shit at the seam".
    1. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 14 May 2020 08: 36 New
      0
      Yes Yes. New installation. White Czechs are white and fluffy, and red Latvians with Hungarians are bloody and furry.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 14 May 2020 07: 12 New
    +7
    The Kremlin is a master strangle only Russian citizens. As soon as it comes to defending honor on the world stage, the MIDs dutifully numb to their partners.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 14 May 2020 07: 23 New
    +8
    To impose anti-fascist excise taxes on Skoda, beer and any Czech brands; introduce a tax for Russian citizens on real estate in the Czech Republic; for citizens of the Russian Federation flying to Prague to pay and take a two-hour course in the history of fascism in the Czech Republic at the airport.
    1. Rostislav
      Rostislav 14 May 2020 07: 45 New
      +1
      Not this way. Czech citizens arriving in Russia, 2-hour lecture.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 14 May 2020 07: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: samarin1969
      introduce a tax for citizens of the Russian Federation on real estate in the Czech Republic;

      +++++ and also for this:
      Quote: samarin1969
      take a two-hour course in the history of fascism in the Czech Republic at the airport.

      I will add a tax on weapons products in our stores "Czech Zbroevka"
      1. Voyager
        Voyager 14 May 2020 08: 26 New
        +3
        Great logic! The Czechs are greyhound, and let our citizens pay for it. That's just a five!
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 14 May 2020 14: 56 New
          +2
          Quote: Voyager
          and let our citizens pay for it.

          those who are not satisfied with the products of our IzhMekh will pay. I will add that in our country for people always made the best machines in the world. laughing
    3. Soviet Union
      Soviet Union 14 May 2020 07: 59 New
      +3
      And not only to citizens ... To all those flying out, and not the history of fascism, but the history of the crimes of the whites, and in detail about the liberation of Czechoslovakia.
    4. pmkemcity
      pmkemcity 14 May 2020 08: 25 New
      -1
      Russian citizens flying to Prague to pay and take at the airport a two-hour course in the history of fascism in the Czech Republic.

      With the obligatory passing of exams, preferably in the presence of some sort of veteran.
  • alekc75
    alekc75 14 May 2020 07: 43 New
    0
    to demolish all the monuments to the Czechs !!! they shed a lot of blood in our civilians !!
  • Oleg Alekseevich
    Oleg Alekseevich 14 May 2020 07: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: The same Lech
    I propose to demand from the Czech Republic the return of the gold of Russia that they stole from Kolchak ... here you need to work hard for historians and investigators of Russia.


    Ha ha ha

    The squirrels stole the gold stolen by Kolchak from Soviet Russia.

    But the Czechs did not erect a monument to white-collars in Russia, but we ourselves ...
    1. Avior
      Avior 14 May 2020 07: 48 New
      +1
      It turns out that in order to claim gold from Chekhov, first you need to declare Russia the successor to Kolchak?
      1. Octopus
        Octopus 14 May 2020 09: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: Avior
        need to declare Russia the successor to Kolchak?

        French debts ...
    2. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 14 May 2020 11: 36 New
      -2
      Quote: Oleg Alekseevich
      But the Czechs did not erect a monument to white-collars in Russia, but we ourselves ...

      Not we but you local bakeries
    3. Same lech
      Same lech 14 May 2020 11: 42 New
      +1
      Here are such twisted stories ...
      But the Czechs did not erect a monument to white-collars in Russia, but we ourselves ...

      These monuments were erected in many places contrary to the wishes of local residents and often behind them ... with the connivance of the authorities ... of course this is a disgrace.
  • Rostislav
    Rostislav 14 May 2020 07: 51 New
    +3
    The author is right, just "concerns" will not work. It is necessary to fight on all fronts - criminal cases, expulsion of diplomats and economic sanctions in the form of increased duties or an embargo on certain products. EU neighbors will gladly fill the vacant niche on the Russian market.
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 16 May 2020 13: 06 New
      0
      and economic sanctions in the form of increased duties or embargoes on certain products


      EU neighbors will gladly occupy a vacant niche in the Russian market.


      Actually, you're under the embargo from the EU. I don’t know what exactly are you going to pay taxes on .. lol
      Or what kind of Czech neighbors are you expecting to occupy your market? Maybe the Poles? laughing

      Sir, you are completely unaware of what you are writing ... Dunning Kruger at a glance ...
  • Avior
    Avior 14 May 2020 07: 54 New
    +1
    The war with monuments is not a good idea, it automatically puts at risk the monuments to Soviet soldiers in the Czech Republic itself, and maybe not only in the Czech Republic.
  • Sayan
    Sayan 14 May 2020 07: 56 New
    +3
    To be objective, we began the struggle with monuments and more, starting in 1991, all sorts of lies and started pouring dust into the ears of the people exhausted by perestroika, and these young Europeans simply continue what we started. By the way, in Austria, Germany and even in Norway in the city of Kirkines, no one encroaches on the monuments of our soldiers
  • Pavel73
    Pavel73 14 May 2020 07: 57 New
    +4
    We need to do the following. Publicly ask the Czechs and Poles for forgiveness for saving them from the Nazis. Recognize this as a mistake, promise that this will not happen again. And to warn that from now on, NATO and any other Western military organizations are for us an aggressor and a successor to the Third Reich. And in the event of a new war, we will no longer make a difference between its members who is their ally and who is the victim. And with all of them we will do the same as with the Third Reich.
  • Oleg Alekseevich
    Oleg Alekseevich 14 May 2020 07: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: 7,62x54
    The Kremlin is a master strangle only Russian citizens. As soon as it comes to defending honor on the world stage, the MIDs dutifully numb to their partners.


    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Russia is Putin’s left hand (the right hand of the Ministry of Defense), so if the Foreign Ministry is silent, then Putin wants to. So Putin wanted and Bastrykin instituted criminal prosecution of the barbarians.

    So Lavrov has nothing to do with it. He is not sleeping, he is waiting for a command ...
  • parusnik
    parusnik 14 May 2020 07: 59 New
    10
    The boycott of Czech goods ... smiled ... They have long been no longer Czech, there is only a brand and a recipe ... it’s for beer .. Skoda belongs to the Germans and for a long time ... Author You raised your hand to TNCs? laughing Desovetization is underway throughout Europe, including Russia .. Dear Mannerheim, monuments to Krasnov, Wrangel, Panwitz on the territories of monasteries, monuments to white whales .. Surprising duplicity of Shoigu ... Here you have criminal cases for demolition of Soviet monuments .. and an agreement between the Czech Defense Ministry and Russia on the installation of monuments to white whales ... Conflict of the right and left hemispheres of the brain
    1. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 14 May 2020 10: 33 New
      +2
      Split personality. Or conscience.
  • Oleg Alekseevich
    Oleg Alekseevich 14 May 2020 08: 01 New
    -1
    Quote: The same Lech
    I propose to demand from the Czech Republic the return of the gold of Russia that they stole from Kolchak ... here you need to work hard for historians and investigators of Russia.


    The squirrels stole the gold that Kolchak stole from Soviet Russia ...
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 14 May 2020 08: 15 New
      0
      Something during the war, gold is not really found.
  • unaha
    unaha 14 May 2020 08: 03 New
    +1
    The only real option is interstate agreements (and what is the same as it is?) Protecting all significant monuments with real sanctions for violation. Then there is a reasonable possibility of legal punishment. And if such an agreement exists, why not apply?
    1. Avior
      Avior 14 May 2020 08: 16 New
      -1
      There is an agreement, but it protects the burial places, and we are talking about monuments
      1. unaha
        unaha 14 May 2020 08: 36 New
        +1
        Therefore, it is necessary to expand the agreement, including to a specific list of monuments. There is an argument - ensuring the safety of their monuments already on our territory.
        1. Avior
          Avior 14 May 2020 08: 37 New
          0
          And if they do not sign it?
          Do they begin to demolish their monuments?
          1. Octopus
            Octopus 14 May 2020 09: 11 New
            +1
            Quote: Avior
            Do they begin to demolish their monuments?

            The article describes this problem. To demolish monuments to the Czechs, you must first put up monuments to the Czechs. And here is Hasek, it’s somehow strange to equate him with Konev.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 14 May 2020 09: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: Octopus
              To demolish monuments to the Czechs, you must first put up monuments to the Czechs.

              Monuments to white whales have put a whole bunch.
              1. Octopus
                Octopus 14 May 2020 09: 40 New
                +2
                I see one in Chelyabinsk in 2011.

                You are right, they set it in vain and it is worth it to demolish it. This is a false monument. The current Russian Federation should not cling to the White movement.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 14 May 2020 09: 54 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Octopus
                  I see one in Chelyabinsk in 2011.





                  They are far from alone.
                  1. Octopus
                    Octopus 14 May 2020 10: 07 New
                    +1
                    If for the monument to Konev in Russia they will demolish all the monuments to the squirrels - I will not mind at all. First, where is the current Russia, and where is Kolchak. Secondly, to erect monuments to traitors is not good. No matter how reasonable their behavior was then.
                  2. Fevralsk. Morev
                    Fevralsk. Morev 14 May 2020 10: 38 New
                    +1
                    A little more, a little more ... and they will erect a monument to a Wehrmacht soldier. And what, the victim of two totalitarian regimes. BoyKolaFrom Urengoy talked about this. Romanians, Hungarians, Italians set. One near Moscow, the second in Volgograd, and the third in the Kursk region to deliver. (SARCASM)
                2. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 14 May 2020 13: 19 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Octopus
                  The current Russian Federation should not cling to the White movement.

                  You woke up late. She has long been in this white mud from head to toe.
          2. unaha
            unaha 14 May 2020 10: 01 New
            0
            It certainly won’t be easy, but what for then do you really need a Foreign Ministry? At least something he should achieve positive. And here are quite equal interests.
    2. bober1982
      bober1982 14 May 2020 08: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: unaha
      And if such an agreement exists, why not apply?

      Because the demolition of the monument, the Czechs actually themselves, and tore these agreements.
      Chekhov, it’s a pity what it means to be forced; they give such orders.
      President Zeman, the demolition of the monument called stupidity, but what else remains to be said.
      1. Avior
        Avior 14 May 2020 08: 43 New
        -1
        The monument was not included in the agreement
        Burial Agreement, monuments not included
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 14 May 2020 08: 52 New
          +1
          Quote: Avior
          The monument was not included in the agreement
          Burial Agreement, monuments not included

          It doesn't matter anymore.
          1. Avior
            Avior 14 May 2020 09: 16 New
            0
            Even as it has
            The agreement protects the burial places of Soviet soldiers in the Czech Republic, and you want to abandon it under the pretext that the Czechs refused
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 14 May 2020 09: 22 New
              0
              Quote: Avior
              The agreement protects the burial places of Soviet soldiers in the Czech Republic

              But, by the same agreement, Czech burials are also protected.
              1. lelik613
                lelik613 17 May 2020 20: 49 New
                0
                Actually, I have not heard that Hitler's Czechs fought in Chita, for example. And in 1918 - the grave of an unknown marauder. They teach you fools, teach you "recognized democracies" and you are useless ...
  • Million
    Million 14 May 2020 08: 04 New
    +4
    Only criminal liability and expulsion of diplomats will actually work.
    Well, even if something bad happens to the mayor of that town
    1. Avior
      Avior 14 May 2020 08: 27 New
      0
      The expulsion of diplomats will obviously be of a mutual nature.
      And maybe others will join the Czechs "in solidarity", the same Poles and not only.
      But the fact that at least Belarus will join Russia is a big question.
      Will it give something?
      1. unaha
        unaha 14 May 2020 08: 38 New
        0
        Of course it will - escalation of mutual threats and sanctions. But the desired result (the preservation of monuments) is not a step closer. Rather, the opposite.
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 14 May 2020 08: 40 New
        +1
        And what Russia is losing from the end of the deep. ties with Czechs, or Romanians?
      3. rocket757
        rocket757 14 May 2020 08: 49 New
        +1
        Do you think our POWER will suffer from that?
        Yes, even completely shut up, leave a representative office, the minimum for serving emergency needs and EVERYTHING! LIVING. We DO NOT NEED there, but let them spin as they want.
        We also found a topic for experience, there are NO FRIENDS!
        At the same time, fellow citizens will think about whether to go where people are not waiting for you, but only your money wants.
        1. Octopus
          Octopus 14 May 2020 09: 19 New
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          Yes, even completely shut up, leave a representative office, the minimum for serving emergency needs and EVERYTHING! LIVING

          You are right.

          It is really promising. You should behave with Poland and the Czech Republic in such a way as to arouse the desire of the latter to ban at the EU level any issue relating to Russia. Now Russia clearly has too few enemies, more is needed.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 14 May 2020 09: 30 New
            +1
            And name our friends in the geyrop ... ..... a little list please.
            Defining, in a geyrop, NONE OF OUR SUGGESTION AND THEN DOESN'T PASS! That is, there’s nothing to catch there .... do you want to scare our Hedgehog ??? With what? I would like to ask.
            1. Octopus
              Octopus 14 May 2020 09: 44 New
              +2
              Quote: rocket757
              With what? I would like to ask.

              The European Union is the main trading partner of the Russian Federation. At the same time, if the balance with China is zero (how many hydrocarbons and round timber were sold - as much consumer goods were delivered), then with the EU it is deeply positive (the Russian Federation sells significantly more than it buys).

              Of course, partly you are right, the Russian Federation and so began to press. But if it is good to motivate at least some EU countries, the process will go faster and more fun.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 14 May 2020 10: 26 New
                +1
                Quote: Octopus
                But if you motivate at least some EU countries well, the process will go faster and more fun.

                Motivation with the help of "Gingerbread" DOES NOT WORK !!! They do not remember the good from the definition of EVERYTHING that flies in response, they themselves must feel, by smell, for example.
                They know how to count the BENEFIT, but only until the moment when the "terrible roar or scream" of the striped vulture comes from behind the okey!
                So what are we losing ??? if we start someone, NOT EVERYTHING, to pinch the most sensitive door?
                You won’t try, you won’t find out who has what is the most tender.
                We’ve already tried it with gingerbread, the result is sharply negative .... that’s when they just started hinting at something else, sprats, apples, red fish and other miscellaneous, the squeal behind the hill was like that !!! the soul of the patriots sang and danced straight. Although they were only hints!
                It is necessary to prove to everyone, first of all MYSELF, that we are SELF-SUFFICIENT !!! Only new, smart.
                What they bought from us, they will buy, they need it too, despite all the squeals of geyropeyskoy and other solidarity!
                You must respect YOURSELF! But it’s true, justified, for garlic! They will immediately begin to respect you.
                1. Octopus
                  Octopus 14 May 2020 11: 20 New
                  0
                  Quote: rocket757
                  that in response flies, they themselves should feel, for a smell, for example.

                  As I understand it, you suggest sitting at the bucket and throwing shit? Good strategy.
                  Quote: rocket757
                  if we start someone, NOT EVERYTHING, to pinch the most sensitive door?

                  Your door hasn’t grown, pinching something for her
                  Quote: rocket757
                  It is necessary to prove to everyone, first of all MYSELF, that we are SELF-SUFFICIENT !!!

                  I'm afraid you do not understand this word. Self-sufficient people do not care deeply about the affairs of the municipal deputies of Prague-13 and Prague-6.
                  Quote: rocket757
                  the squeal over the hill was like that !!! the soul of the patriots sang and danced straight.

                  This is from hawthorn. There was no squeal, except in RT.
                  Quote: rocket757
                  What they bought from us, they will buy, they need it too

                  ))
                  Yesterday it was necessary, today it’s not very much, tomorrow it will not be necessary at all.
                  Quote: rocket757
                  You must respect YOURSELF!

                  I'm afraid this is impossible. Actually, that's why the theme of the Second World War takes up so much space. At any cost to avoid the question "Grandfathers are grandfathers, they are very old, almost everyone has already died. In what they were right and in what they were not, God will judge.

                  Who are YOU? What have YOU done? Why is there so much noise from YOU? "
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 14 May 2020 11: 36 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Octopus
                    As I understand it, you suggest sitting at the bucket and throwing shit? Good strategy.

                    Really? And where did you find this from me?
                    This is exactly from YOU addition ...
                    I’ll go out into the fresh air, perhaps, such an ambre ourselves, ourselves.
      4. Octopus
        Octopus 14 May 2020 09: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: Avior
        The expulsion of diplomats will obviously be of a mutual nature.
        And maybe others will join the Czechs "in solidarity", the same Poles and not only.

        Yes.
        Therefore, I fully support the proposal of the author. Ideally, you need to achieve a complete ban on the Russians in Schengen. Everyones go there, liberalism and homosexuality are imported to Russia. And this one, too, from there.
        Quote: Avior
        Belarus will join Russia

        )))
        Do not wait.
        Old Man is not averse to walking with the red flag, but playing with money is unlikely.
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 14 May 2020 08: 51 New
      +1
      It will really work if you cut a moshna to them ... they love a little thing and are very worried about it.
  • semuil
    semuil 14 May 2020 08: 05 New
    0
    The Czechs did not deserve the Konev, but the toilet was complete.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 14 May 2020 08: 07 New
    -1
    Send tourists Petrov and Boshirov to Prague. There is something to see.
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 14 May 2020 08: 39 New
    +1
    Start cases, raise all topics about the crimes of these peoples against the Russians. Let the Poles pay, already compensation for the prisoners of the Soviet-Polish war of 1920. And the Czechs are for the "hitzers" that they made for the Germans.

    "Skoda" are produced in Russia, it will not help not to buy them. But the markets for real goods from such countries should be closed as part of the announcement of sanctions.
    1. Octopus
      Octopus 14 May 2020 09: 21 New
      +2
      Yes!

      Also a very good idea. Poles like to talk about the crimes of those years.
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 14 May 2020 09: 22 New
        0
        Do not reflect and redistribute.
  • atos_kin
    atos_kin 14 May 2020 08: 40 New
    -1
    Russia needs to react to the "war of monuments" in a "military" way:
    1) return to the world map the city of Stalingrad;
    2) to allocate in vast Russia an area remote from civilization (it is possible below the permafrost) where to carry commemorative crosses with a sign (instead of memorials) of any country encroaching on the memory of a Russian soldier;
    3) immediately expel the consuls of the offending countries from the territory of the Russian Federation with a life-time ban on entry;
    4) when meeting and making calls on the phones of You Know Who, start the conversation with "expressing concern and understanding ..."
    1. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 14 May 2020 08: 48 New
      +1
      Return USSR flag
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 14 May 2020 11: 45 New
        -1
        Why is the USSR flag a bourgeois country?
        1. hhhhhhh
          hhhhhhh 14 May 2020 13: 07 New
          +2
          I’m talking about this.)))) To demolish the bourgeois kingdom.
    2. Avior
      Avior 14 May 2020 08: 55 New
      -1
      Do you think they won’t do the same in return?
  • rocket757
    rocket757 14 May 2020 08: 43 New
    +1
    .And do not underestimate the economic leverage. Imagine if Russia after the incident with the monument to Konev would declare a boycott of Czech goods, stop buying Skoda, Czech beer and other products.

    I immediately offered it for a long time !!!
    We will not ALL buy anything of those spoiled goats from foreigners, we won’t be any worse, and this will not add to their joy.
    It is necessary, the whole world must protect the memory of our HEROES.
  • prior
    prior 14 May 2020 08: 45 New
    -1
    If a war is being waged with monuments, then the countries in which this is happening must also declare war.
    And then - according to the laws of war, there is room for retaliatory action.
    And if we can only express concern, then it turns out that they are doing the right thing to us, as with preoccupied ones.
    1. Smallpox
      Smallpox 14 May 2020 09: 15 New
      0
      Those. I understand correctly, because of the monuments in concrete and marble, it is necessary to sacrifice hundreds and thousands of living fellow citizens?
      1. prior
        prior 14 May 2020 09: 49 New
        -1
        But I don’t mind the Czechs. I am sorry that we are turning into unrequited cowards.
        Declaring war does not mean immediately bombing.
        We also have no peace treaty with Japan, so what ..?
    2. Octopus
      Octopus 14 May 2020 09: 29 New
      0
      Quote: prior
      And then - according to the laws of war, there is room for retaliatory action.

      Yeah !!!

      The war with NATO for the monument to Konev of the 80th year! It’s time to finish already, Putin promised everyone a ticket to paradise!
      1. prior
        prior 14 May 2020 09: 45 New
        -1
        So I say, are Americans really tired of living because a monument was demolished in the Czech Republic.
        Yes, they will force the Czechs to erect 10 monuments.
        1. Octopus
          Octopus 14 May 2020 10: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: prior
          So I say, are Americans really tired of living because a monument was demolished in the Czech Republic.

          Cool!

          Show Americans Kuzkin mother! Let them answer us for Rzhepory!

          It's time to stop pretending to be sane people. It still doesn’t work. Honesty is always better.
  • Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 14 May 2020 08: 45 New
    +4
    Or for starters, you can raise duties on goods from the Czech Republic, Poland, the Baltic countries. It would be worthwhile to introduce other economic sanctions in order to painfully hit the guilty in the pocket.

    laughing The author is aware that the Russian Federation is a member of the WTO, while our economic agreements are especially honored and strictly observed. This can be seen in the de-industrialized economy of the Russian Federation. Who will shoot himself in the forehead by imposing sanctions now if a "response" from the entire WTO arrives? lol
    Another question, can you pay attention to what is going on inside the country? This is the official condemnation by the State Duma and the Guarantor of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, repentance for the Gebessian propaganda about the shooting in Katyn, proposals from the state channel Russia 1 to erect monuments to the Krasnovs, to secretly and explicitly de-Sovietize everything and everyone, including in schools with the introduction of the Solzhenitsyn study ... This is the "parade in honor of the parade", the drapery of Lenin's Mausoleum on May 9, to which the banners of the defeated units of fascist Europe were thrown. Can the public's anger be turned to rewriting history in the Russian Federation itself? You look and in Europe they will stop demolishing monuments to Soviet heroes.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 14 May 2020 09: 28 New
      +2
      The WTO works well when it works, if sanctions are imposed on us and the WTO rules are violated, then what do we lose? Katyn and other nonsense we have with Khrushchev. Well, on TV they can carry any nonsense, our task is to write the truth. Moreover, any raids on Stalin are illegal, because, unlike the Nuremberg gallows, no court ever tried him, and no orders like the "final solution of the Jewish question" or "rules of conduct for German soldiers on the eastern front" from them I did not give any responsibility for crimes against the local population, and other things that were then carried out by subordinates.
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 14 May 2020 10: 04 New
        0
        [quote = EvilLion] Well, on TV can be any nonsense, [/ quote]
        Who admits to carry this nonsense on state channels? An order or a strategy like this?
        [quote = EvilLion] [quote] The WTO works well when it works, if sanctions are imposed against us and the WTO rules are violated, then what do we lose? [/ quote]
        In the absence of its own developed industry, a lot.
        [quote = EvilLion] running over Stalin is illegal [/ quote]
        And therefore, realizing that they are illegal, they rivet chernukha for Soviet times, presenting them as an "alternative" vision of history based on the younger generation?
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 14 May 2020 08: 48 New
    +1
    Near the beautiful neat cemeteries of German, Romanian, Italian, Hungarian, etc. of which there are many in Russia to put up huge shields with the inscription "The invaders are buried here", as well as indicate how many people they killed, what cities they destroyed, the villages burned. So that against the background of beautiful photographs of grandchildren against the background of monuments, one can see how brave their grandfathers were.
    Install shields at their expense.
    1. Octopus
      Octopus 14 May 2020 09: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: hhhhhhh
      Install shields at their expense.

      And if they don’t pay?
      1. hhhhhhh
        hhhhhhh 14 May 2020 09: 57 New
        0
        Demolish the cemetery.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 14 May 2020 09: 37 New
      0
      If in Russia there is somewhere burial ground during the Second World War, then they are not contained at our expense. Formally, they should not be touched. According to the recollections of war veterans, German burial sites simply leveled the tanks with the ground. But in vain, it would be possible then to drive tours and show how much this scum our grandfathers destroyed. Here lies Jurgen. Jürgen killed Soviet citizens and was stabbed to death in a bayonet attack. Here lies Herman. German killed Soviet citizens with a tank until he caught a shell, was badly burned and died after weeks of torment in the hospital. Here lies Willy. Willy killed Soviet citizens, was caught, after which they did the same to him as he did with Soviet citizens. And so on. And it would not be such that Germany could not lose the war without losing at least 7 million servicemen killed in the east and 10 million in general, but graves in the USSR were scraped only 2.3 million. All in all, they allegedly 4 s lost something. Oh well.
      1. hhhhhhh
        hhhhhhh 14 May 2020 09: 59 New
        +1
        I'm not talking about our bill. I'm talking about the heroic graves of heroic fighters with the Bolsheviks. There should not be graves of heroes to the invaders.
  • Gennady Bogdanovich
    Gennady Bogdanovich 14 May 2020 08: 57 New
    +3
    Well done author. Finally, the tantrums of divopatriots have ended and sober assessments and proposals have appeared
    If the President of Russia had the willpower to withdraw the ambassadors from Estonia, Poland, the Czech Republic, send the ambassadors of these countries for consultations, impose an embargo on the goods of these countries, close the borders, this would be worthy behavior of the President of the Great Country. And he acted like a puppet president of a banana colony. If the loot of the oligarchs and court lackeys is at the forefront, are you kidding, what monuments? For such money, let the Balts, Poles, Czechs, Romanians, Bulgarians demolish all the monuments and we will forgive them. Because of some kind of monument, the Kremlin will not break the business of “respected” people. Are you crazy?
    The reason for this attitude to monuments, to Russia is in the Kremlin.
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 14 May 2020 09: 39 New
      +1
      And a nuclear strike right away.
      No, but that no one comes out to demand the expulsion of these people? And why do our people go to them as tourists? The people elected the president, but the people like Czech beer. What claims to Putin after this?
  • Smallpox
    Smallpox 14 May 2020 08: 58 New
    +2
    The conclusions of the article are gorgeous. According to this logic, it is necessary to close the lines at GAZ in Nizhny Novgorod and Kaluga, and dismiss workers, because Skoda Yeti, Kodiak and Octavia are made on VAG lines (the Germans, by the way, can also cover up Volkswagen in memory of grandfathers). "Czech beer" is brewed at the breweries of AB InBev Efes JSC (Turks, this is for you guys) and Heiniken, and disperse the workers of the factories as collaborators and accomplices to the enemy.
    By printing such articles, you open the overtone window ...
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 14 May 2020 09: 41 New
      0
      What for? You can put the lines to us, but not to be rude. It is simply impossible to conduct business normally with those who, on the one hand, flee to Russia to earn money, but on the other hand, it shits on her. With them it is necessary in the same way. We do not prohibit beneficial for us. Unprofitable, send on. Maybe they will think.
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 14 May 2020 13: 32 New
      +2
      All these wrestlers and patriots do not understand the economy and modern intricacies of the world division of labor and property rights from the word at all. Therefore, all these calls to fight not with cause, but with consequences. It is impossible to defeat all these vile processes and other phenomena without a transition from capitalism to socialism.
  • veritas
    veritas 14 May 2020 08: 58 New
    +2
    How Russia to respond to the European war with monuments to Soviet soldiers: a few suggestions

    Need to punish. You can always find how to punish a vandal, albeit a foreign one.
    1. Smallpox
      Smallpox 14 May 2020 09: 06 New
      0
      All countries punish with hard currency, but what can be done when the enemy does not use your banking services. To prohibit relaxing in the resorts of the Krasnodar Territory?
  • zan_parti
    zan_parti 14 May 2020 08: 58 New
    0
    It is hard to believe that the authorities will decide to take any measures.
    But personally, I can easily impose my personal sanctions.
    Tell me - what goods to stop buying in order to cause my personal modest damage to the enemy economy?

    I also think that next to Victory Park it is necessary to create an alley of heroes, on which it is necessary to install all the monuments / copies of monuments demolished by our "friends". With an exact indication of who and when demolished. To remember themselves and to remind their descendants - who should not be helped in the future, and who should be considered an enemy.
    1. Smallpox
      Smallpox 14 May 2020 09: 10 New
      0
      Quote: zan_parti
      Tell me - what goods to stop buying in order to cause my personal modest damage to the enemy economy?

      I am afraid that here you will have to radically rebuild your consumerist ethics. You can start with a complete rejection of "plastic" or transition to the world, rejection of the use of iPhones and smartphones on Snapdregon, as well as the transition to the services of the operator MegaFon (100% Russian operator).
  • Esaul
    Esaul 14 May 2020 09: 07 New
    -2
    I must tell the Czechs that for every destroyed monument to Soviet soldiers, we will destroy one monument on their territory to fascist minions ... with a nuclear strike of 10 megatons.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 14 May 2020 09: 17 New
    0
    And it is necessary to apply a set of measures against these ushlepok. First of all, of an economic nature, then a political one, such as putting an analogue of the marshal in front of the Czech embassy and about renaming the metro station, an sensible idea, well, of course, do not go down to the cake, and criminal cases against those responsible for demolishing the monument must be instituted without fail.
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 14 May 2020 09: 25 New
    +3
    For the fact that I’m writing now, they will put me a bunch of minuses. The first one. Let's start by separating the concepts of monuments and burial. Monument - an object (usually a structure) that supports memories of something. Burial - buried remains or ashes.
    There are millions of monuments and graves on the planet. There are monuments of history, there are monuments of politics. WWII (in the West 2 MV) monuments to Soviet soldiers - initially on the territory of a number of Eastern European countries were more of a political connotation than a historical one. Political monuments are preserved as long as this or that ideology is strong. The ideology of the USSR is a thing of the past, we ourselves ditched it in the 90s, there is nowhere to go further and quietly continue to "screw it up" for the sake of new politicians and making them new "idols". An example is the ideological attitude drilled into the minds of citizens that there is no one more worthy in Russia except Putin. Until we erect monuments to Putin, for now ... But in the office of each official hangs a portrait of Putin, which replaced the portrait of Yeltsin, and before that Gorbachev, etc. Why do we hang portraits, and then take them off ... it also happens with monuments. But there are examples of the demolition of monuments not only in the USSR, but also in the Russian Empire ... So how do we differ from the YES members. This is on the one hand.
    With another. Monument - from the word memory. Take, for example, a simple Slovak, a Spaniard, an Italian and others who were in the same ranks with the Nazis. For us, the Soviet soldier is first of all our memory of our heroic ancestors who liberated OUR country from a deadly enemy. And for the Italian, his grandfather was killed at Stalingrad. For a Slovak, his grandfather was killed on the passes of the Caucasus, etc. And before his eyes is a monument to the soldier who killed his ancestor (the truth is that the grandfather came to rob and kill in another country is somehow "forgotten", and the one responsible for the death of your relative - here he is in stone and also a hero). So why is he - this "killer" is standing in front of my house ... So they are demolishing. And we are afraid to say openly that in many European countries our soldier is not standing in order to follow an example from him, but so that the citizens of these countries remember that if you come to us in war, then we will come to your house and crush like a nit, as our grandfathers-great-grandfathers crushed fascist henchmen in 1945.
    It's time to abandon the ideological cliché "Soviet soldier liberator of the peoples of Evropy", because they liberate those who want this liberation .... and not those who were obedient cattle in the "hands of a fascista" !!!
    Do I need to fight for the monuments - no. It is necessary to fight for memory - then the monuments will not be touched.
    And in order to bury the Soviet soldiers in Europe, it is necessary not only to fight, but also to give faces to those who dare to touch them.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 14 May 2020 09: 29 New
    -1
    Indeed, it would be ideal to act comprehensively. Penalties, expulsion of diplomats and trade sanctions. By the way, in addition to the ban on the import of certain products / products of barbaric countries into Russia, they will sharply raise prices for gas, oil, timber, etc. Let them buy the same from the "neighbors" speculators at exorbitant prices.
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 14 May 2020 09: 31 New
    0
    You spit in the face, but I will not be likened. The author argues something like this. Little beat seems !? In the army, the author did not serve it for sure! And why not rename the station, demolish, cancel, etc.? Fuchik and I. Hasek who is this? And that my children and I will lose if they don’t know. The Czechs do not want to know the Russians who saved them from death. Oh yes, we will not be likened? You tell this to the Chinese. They do this to us because they know that nothing will happen to them! Let the Czechs say something about the Jews, somehow stutter. They would get out of the ground.
    Answer must be mirrored! Destroy, prohibit all Czech and especially Polish. Remove embassies from these countries and crush economically. If they do not respect me, why should I respect !!!
  • sss
    sss 14 May 2020 09: 52 New
    +1
    There is only one way, one for all time - to raise the country economically and socially, to revive education, to introduce reasonable censorship, to force some layers of our own population and abroad, if you do not respect the history of the country and so seriously fear discrediting it. And yet - the near abroad should always be a "buffer" zone - a zone of strategic interests in the economic and military-political spheres.
  • Δεγραδ-Οτραδ
    Δεγραδ-Οτραδ 14 May 2020 10: 04 New
    +1
    We can be demolished, but they can’t, it’s interesting. Tell me, where did the monuments from the center of Moscow go? Or did the Poles move them too?
  • Kapellan23
    Kapellan23 14 May 2020 10: 26 New
    -2
    Socialists, having captured Russia, began to fight with Russian monuments. Socialists in the EU are only following in the footsteps of their predecessors.

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ленинский_план_монументальной_пропаганды
    https://apologet.spb.ru/ru/1449.html
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin 14 May 2020 10: 28 New
    -1
    The economic and diplomatic answers are the most effective, minus the monument - minus the diplomat and plus 10% of the duties. The pocket is always closer ...
  • Growlers
    Growlers 14 May 2020 10: 55 New
    0
    I agree. Everyone who made the decision. The whole team of performers. Sentence to everyone. And publish. And the embassy in the Czech Republic individually for each copy of the verdict and notification. As for the monuments to the same "White Czechs" Mannerheims, Kolchaks, let the truth be written only on the monument. The killer of the Russian people is a traitor and the English Admiral Kolchak, you can add that a drug addict. The former tsarist general, the head of the Nazi Finnish state, the executioner of the besieged Leningrad, the creator of concentration camps in Petrozavodsk, responsible for the deaths of many thousands of Soviet citizens, Mannerheim. Bloody occupiers, thieves and robbers Czech legionnaires
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 14 May 2020 11: 13 New
    +2
    Do not react, this is not our business. To be ashamed of the fact that we betrayed the allies and failed to fulfill the leadership role. That's all.
  • iouris
    iouris 14 May 2020 11: 44 New
    +2
    May theses.
    "Nazism was defeated by the Soviet Union, USSR." "The Second World War is an ideological war." "Soviet communist ideology won." "The leader and ideologist of the victorious USSR is IV Stalin." "The red flag of Victory was hoisted over the defeated Germany." "The Russian Federation is the most anti-Soviet anti-communist anti-Stalinist state with the appropriate ideology and symbols."
    I suggest taking as a basis.
    What will be the suggestions?
  • Radikal
    Radikal 14 May 2020 11: 59 New
    +2
    By the way, soon Sergey Shoigu turned to the head of the Investigative Committee, Alexander Bastrykin, urging him to actively prosecute foreign citizens who were responsible for the demolition of monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators.
    How many were attracted, and by whom? sad
  • Radikal
    Radikal 14 May 2020 12: 11 New
    +4
    Apart from single incidents, the destruction of Soviet monuments in Eastern Europe took up almost immediately after the collapse of the USSR.
    Here! This is the key phrase in the article, the rest is "from the evil one"! At first, this was done on the territory of the former USSR, most actively in the Russian Federation, and the rest, already "inspired" by the example of Moscow, continued. Therefore, "there is nothing to blame on the mirror ... when the beam is in the eye"! Do you think the world has not seen how the monuments to Dzerzhinsky were filmed in Moscow, or the monuments of Lenin (though not everywhere in time) on the territory of Russia? Perfectly seen everyone! So, before shedding "crocodile" tears, you need to figure it out in your house! Until the country recognizes, and most importantly, does not correct its mistakes in the fight against its own history, nothing will change, it will only get worse. sad
  • Radikal
    Radikal 14 May 2020 12: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: iouris
    May theses.
    "Nazism was defeated by the Soviet Union, USSR." "The Second World War is an ideological war." "Soviet communist ideology won." "The leader and ideologist of the victorious USSR is IV Stalin." "The red flag of Victory was hoisted over the defeated Germany." "The Russian Federation is the most anti-Soviet anti-communist anti-Stalinist state with the appropriate ideology and symbols."
    I suggest taking as a basis.
    What will be the suggestions?

    good good good Respect! I support! soldier hi
  • cniza
    cniza 14 May 2020 12: 25 New
    +1
    After all, the international situation is changing, but the court’s decision remains. And it is possible that at one point the guilty party will suffer a deserved punishment.


    This is the most correct step that must be taken constantly and the system will work.
  • Radikal
    Radikal 14 May 2020 12: 33 New
    +3
    Quote: samarin1969
    To impose anti-fascist excise taxes on Skoda, beer and any Czech brands; introduce a tax for Russian citizens on real estate in the Czech Republic; for citizens of the Russian Federation flying to Prague to pay and take a two-hour course in the history of fascism in the Czech Republic at the airport.

    Baby talk .... lol
  • Radikal
    Radikal 14 May 2020 12: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: Free Wind
    Something during the war, gold is not really found.

    The Germans first came to Czechoslovakia, and then we, so the gold coin is most likely already in Swiss, American, or English repositories. sad
  • Kushka
    Kushka 14 May 2020 16: 36 New
    0
    Somewhere I read such a story. In imperial time, in Paris,
    in one theater prepared the premiere of a play in which
    Russia, the Russian army was assigned an inappropriate role.
    Ambassador of Russia, demanded an audience with the head of government
    and on it declared the inadmissibility of showing the play. What that
    sang a song about creative freedom in democratic France
    and that the government cannot interfere in the affairs of the theater.
    To which the Ambassador stated that in case of a show he can guarantee
    a full house to the theater - tens of thousands will come to the premiere
    spectators in identical overcoats. The play was not shown.