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The U.S. Army ordered the development of a new active rocket shell XM1115

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The U.S. Army ordered the development of a new active rocket shell XM1115

The American cannon artillery will soon receive a new active-rocket projectile. According to the press service of Raytheon Missiles & Defense, the company and the US Army have signed a contract for the development and production of the XM1155 projectile.


The development of the projectile will be carried out as part of the program for creating a promising artillery complex with increased firing range ERCA (Extended Range Cannon Artillery - "Barrel Artillery with Long Range"), launched in 2015. Previously, the XM1113 guided missile projectile was launched for testing as part of the program. This product is a 155 mm caliber ammunition with a high-explosive fragmentation warhead and its own solid-fuel engine. Management and guidance is carried out through an inertial and satellite navigation system, as well as using aerodynamic rudders.

XM1155 will be a 155 mm caliber artillery shell with a ramjet engine. It is known that the Dutch company Nederlandse Organisatie voor Toegepast Natuurwetenschappelijk Onderzoek (TNO) will design the engine for the shell, and Raytheon integrates the engine with the shell of the shell, creates a guidance system, warhead and other components.


It is planned that the new projectile XM1155 will be able to hit mobile and stationary targets on land and at sea. It will be intended for use by both promising guns and existing self-propelled guns. It is assumed that the use of a new projectile will allow the artillery to hit targets at ranges of over 100 km.
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  1. AllBiBek
    AllBiBek 13 May 2020 16: 11 New
    +5
    We didn’t get drunk on art systems for Zumvolt with a shell in the cost of Tomahawk - did you also decide to milk the ground army?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 May 2020 16: 28 New
      +4
      The temptation is too great. Due to the rapid development of miniature GOS.
      Like: "You deliver us a shell for 100 km, and the hit will be ensured."
      It used to be exactly the opposite. Tried to create super-guns with incredible
      barrel length and large caliber, but on the same ballistics. It was not possible
      get "to the point".
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 13 May 2020 21: 06 New
        0
        The gun program for Zamwolt was curtailed.
        But the army has a desire to surpass the Coalition.
        Let's see how it flies. hi
        Maybe something will fall into Zamvoltu. Though...
    2. Fmax
      Fmax 13 May 2020 22: 37 New
      +1
      They have their own ARS with a normal price for marine 135 mm systems with a firing range of 115 km. Why not make an inexpensive shell with a range of 155 km for land 100 mm?
      1. AllBiBek
        AllBiBek 13 May 2020 23: 41 New
        +1
        Why do they need inexpensive, when you can expensive?
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 14 May 2020 09: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: FMax
        They have their own ARS with a normal price for marine 135 mm systems with a firing range of 115 km. Why not make an inexpensive shell with a range of 155 km for land 100 mm?

        Because such long shells for self-propelled guns will not work. Especially for self-loading self-propelled guns
  2. regdan
    regdan 13 May 2020 16: 18 New
    -3
    Strengthen the power of the country slowly.
    1. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek 13 May 2020 16: 32 New
      +8
      - The army ordered a guided missile with a range of up to one hundred km.
      - Horror! This is how much money is stolen and rolled away from us! And why does Russia need such a shell? Rallies to disperse?
      - This is in the USA ...
      - Strengthen the power of the country!
  3. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 13 May 2020 16: 19 New
    +2
    100km is serious. The question of the price of such ammunition. Yes, and somehow I do not believe in ensuring a low CVO at such a distance only with the help of rudders on the plumage.
  4. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 13 May 2020 16: 22 New
    +1
    "artillery projectile of 155 mm caliber with a ramjet
    engine "////
    ----
    Wow! belay
    There wasn’t such a twist yet ...
    1. bk316
      bk316 13 May 2020 17: 57 New
      +4
      There wasn’t such a twist yet ...

      N and put it in 155 mm. Fuel, engine, control, GOS. Will there be a place on the warhead?
  5. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 13 May 2020 16: 28 New
    +1
    the use of a new projectile will allow the artillery to hit targets at ranges of over 100 km

    get closer to the enemy are already afraid ...
    1. Vasily Ponomarev
      Vasily Ponomarev 13 May 2020 17: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: Pvi1206
      the use of a new projectile will allow the artillery to hit targets at ranges of over 100 km

      get closer to the enemy are already afraid ...

      yeah, that’s why they are developing, they are abandoning the infantry, all the same, we threw them with hats, now we definitely don’t need to build a coalition fellow
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    3. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 May 2020 18: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Pvi1206
      get closer to the enemy are already afraid ...

      This thing is called "Fighting the Second Echelons". FOFA, Follow-On Forces Attack
      The concept is this.
      By the way, very, very adequate.
      1. +5
        +5 14 May 2020 08: 52 New
        0
        The concept is adequate (if you use either a 220 or 240 mm or 300 mm MLRS or ATACMS with a Point), and if you use a shell under a buck bucks at a price of 122 mm and an M109 rate of fire (3 shots in 2 minutes), then that’s complete nonsense .. .without special warhead ...
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 May 2020 16: 35 New
    -3
    The flight of the projectile for more than 3 minutes ... during this time, even a weakly moving target can crawl far enough from the aiming point ... and the caliber is small for hitting stationary fortified targets. Let by GPS, the accuracy of the hit will be at least a meter - at the given coordinates. But is such a target worth ... eleven dollars?
    1. Brylevsky
      Brylevsky 13 May 2020 18: 02 New
      0
      Unfortunately, I’m not an artilleryman, and I don’t know or understand a lot of things, so I divided the distance the projectile should fly (100 km) by the time you kindly indicated (3 minutes), and mathematics told me about that the projectile should have a speed of approximately 555 m / s; the usual flight speed of a howitzer shell is about 300 to 600 m / s, depending on the charge selected, so I don’t understand: the shell, it’s, is active-reactive, and its flight speed is about the same as that of a regular one? Somewhere I was mistaken in my conclusions, or is it really so: are the speeds roughly corresponding to each other?
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 13 May 2020 18: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: Brylevsky
        the projectile, like, is active-reactive, and does it have a flight speed of about the same as a conventional one?

        The active rocket engine only works at the very beginning of the flight.
        Then, on the strength of the role of a gas generator to prevent bottom effect.
        1. Brylevsky
          Brylevsky 14 May 2020 04: 22 New
          0
          Thanks for the info, I will know.
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 13 May 2020 19: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Brylevsky
        indicated by you (3 minutes), and mathematics told me that the projectile should have a speed of about 555 m / s; The usual flight speed of a howitzer shell is about 300 to 600 m / s, depending on the charge selected, so I don’t understand:

        The initial velocity of shells from such howitzers is very high - more than 900 m / s. But he is not flying in a straight line. Therefore, the trajectory is much longer than the distance between the beginning and the end. It is launched at about 50 degrees to the horizon (45, this is good in an airless space). Because the time is about this.
        1. Brylevsky
          Brylevsky 14 May 2020 04: 26 New
          0
          Got it, thanks.
    2. AllBiBek
      AllBiBek 13 May 2020 23: 45 New
      0
      As an option - highlight the target from the drone.

      Americans adore an enemy who does not have strong air defense. Therefore, they are furious when he has it. For it interferes with the delivery of freedom molecules and the center of democracy.
  7. knn54
    knn54 13 May 2020 16: 37 New
    0
    Taiwan will be interested ...
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 13 May 2020 16: 45 New
    +5
    the use of a new projectile will allow the artillery to hit targets at ranges of over 100 km.

    It doesn’t turn out that this projectile will be more expensive than a rocket with similar performance characteristics?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 May 2020 17: 28 New
      +7
      Just because of this, all the fuss. laughing
      Which rocket flies (approximately) a hundred kilometers? - Tornado and the like.
      The rocket is a bandura with a length of 7.5 m and a diameter of 300 mm.
      And here 155 mm shell ... the length will be added, of course, because of this
      jet engine. And the price will rise: engine and GOS.
      But, the starter is a standard army self-propelled gun. Temptation... fellow
      1. bk316
        bk316 13 May 2020 18: 02 New
        +3
        But, the starter is a standard army self-propelled gun.

        And that the self-propelled gun’s resource will be greater than the launch of the Tornado?
        Winnings are only in size. But this gain leads to a decrease in power. You’ll shove any more explosives into 300 mm. But the complexity of the ammunition surpasses, can you imagine a direct-current tank in such a size .... The price of 10 shells is just at the cost of one launcher laughing
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 13 May 2020 18: 22 New
        +5
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Just because of this, all the fuss. laughing
        Which rocket flies (approximately) a hundred kilometers? - Tornado and the like.
        The rocket is a bandura with a length of 7.5 m and a diameter of 300 mm.
        And here 155 mm shell ... the length will be added, of course, because of this
        jet engine. And the price will rise: engine and GOS.
        But, the starter is a standard army self-propelled gun. Temptation... fellow

        On the other hand, one Smerch cluster munition contains more than 70 such shells. And the barrel doesn't wear out.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 13 May 2020 19: 33 New
          +2
          It's right. The power of one rocket is great. But is it always needed? More recently, there was an example of how Turkish artillery very accurately fired at the leading edge of the Syrian army and police in Idlib on a tip to drones. 155 mm of shells was enough. 3-5 pieces for sure and the Syrians / Shiites / Iranians retreated. And imagine that such shelling comes from a safe distance of 100 km?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 13 May 2020 21: 00 New
            +3
            Quote: voyaka uh
            The power of one rocket is great. But is it always needed?

            Not always. When not needed, apply warheads with a cassette warhead.

            For example, the 9H235 fragmentation submunition weighs only 1,75 kg. It’s hard to come up with something less powerful.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 13 May 2020 22: 01 New
              +2
              A cluster warhead is a very specific munition.
              If you manage to blow it over the enemy’s military base or
              battalion before deployment, it can cause great damage
              to the enemy. But if you need to knock down the leading edge, where on the strength
              20 people lie scattered in shelters among houses and ruins,
              then 99% of the submunitions will explode in vain.
              In this case, the accurate hits of several howitzer shells are more effective.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 13 May 2020 22: 03 New
                +3
                Quote: voyaka uh
                But if you need to knock down the leading edge, where on the strength
                20 people lie scattered in shelters among houses and ruins,
                then 99% of the submunitions will explode in vain.

                Well, okay.
                But one percent will fulfill its task.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 May 2020 18: 41 New
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      It doesn’t turn out that this projectile will be more expensive than a rocket with similar performance characteristics?

      Required.
  9. Cowbra
    Cowbra 13 May 2020 16: 53 New
    +7
    Well, well ... I heard that a former employee of Reiteon became the Minister of Defense - he said plainly which office most contracts would go to now. Well, it is — trouble with the F-35, with the fleet — for example, the LCS is being reduced, the marines have been driven under the heels for money with a slipper ... Reiteon is working diligently and sweatily to develop systems, not to say that of primary importance.
    Guys, if the Pentagon wouldn’t saw loot. and the forest - the whole planet without trees would remain!
    The scope of such a projectile for the United States where? Drive the Barmales - otherwise you can’t shoot with an ordinary shell, will they get Palladin from Kalash in response?
    Psi: and entrust Reiteon with another development - in the photo a stool is some kind of low-tech. Without homing under the ass
    1. Vasily Ponomarev
      Vasily Ponomarev 13 May 2020 17: 24 New
      +1
      > trouble with the F-35
      yeah, https: //defence-blog.com/news/lockheed-martin-delivers-500th-f-35-center-wing-from-marietta-facility.html
      > e.g. LCS abbreviate
      yeah, they’ll build 40 ships, where can they get to Russia?
      > Marines for money were driven under the shkonar
      yeah, with a record budget of 46 lard -46
      I wonder where you got this data from, it’s clear that ordinary people on the site will not be able to find a refutation of your words, they are too lazy to look, and they believe in lies
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 13 May 2020 17: 29 New
        +1
        Tell us about the reform of the ILC corps, a recent article here, there is also a link as to the LCS, which are put up against the wall, about the F-35, tell, for example, Germany and France, which "in the NATO charter has clause 5, but no clause F-35"
        An ordinary person at an ordinary job - read a couple of your posts - and it’s clear where ordinary ones are stamped
        1. Vasily Ponomarev
          Vasily Ponomarev 13 May 2020 17: 33 New
          +2
          > Tell us about the reform of the ILC corps
          Well, what’s the point, I gave you the links, you didn’t read them (although why throw the beads)
          > recent article here
          Well, bring the data like me, can you? lol love
          > tell for example Germany and France
          what to tell them? here is this? https: //topwar.ru/168666-korporacija-lockheed-martin-postavila-vvs-ssha-500-j-istrebitel-f-35.html
          > An ordinary person at a regular job - read a couple of your posts - and it is clear where ordinary such are stamped
          well, let’s grind at least one link, and then I’ve not seen a single opposition, but you can get better
          PS: oh, what a touchy, minus lol
        2. shahor
          shahor 13 May 2020 18: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: Cowbra
          Tell us about the reform of the corps of the ILC, a recent article here, there is also a link to the LCS, which put to the wall,

          Well, don’t have to write so frankly! You can go to the Defense Blog resource and find out from the source why US Navy is going to increase the number of LCS, how it will use and equip them ... As for the Marines, their role is only increasing. They return to their main task, for the sake of which they were created - work on the coast, on the islands of the Pacific Ocean, in particular, where there was a confrontation with China. Therefore, they change weapons. For example, heavy tanks are not needed there - the Marines will not have them. And the barmaley in the desert will be driven by cavalry, not marines. Do not wishful thinking.
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 13 May 2020 18: 16 New
            0
            https://topwar.ru/169381-korpus-morskoj-pehoty-ssha-lishitsja-vsej-tjazheloj-bronetehniki.html
            like so
            1. shahor
              shahor 13 May 2020 23: 37 New
              0
              Quote: Cowbra
              like so

              So I explain that the Marines do not need heavy equipment to perform new tasks. But they get convertoplanes modernized to their specifics, new landing docks with a take-off deck for f-35s, high-speed supply vessels, new amphibious armored vehicles, etc. This is all within the framework of the deployment of advanced expeditionary bases on the first and second chains of the Pacific islands. As support for these bases, LCS ships are attached, which receive PKR and specialized weapons modules. The fleet wants to additionally purchase 1 such ships in order to eventually have 2 of them. At the same time, it is planned to surrender 3-35 new ships annually to the fleet. And the wall ... Like that.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 13 May 2020 23: 46 New
                +3
                Quote: shahor
                Atoms they get are convertiplanes upgraded to their specifics, new landing docks with take-off deck for f-35s, high-speed supply vessels, new amphibious armored vehicles, etc.

                That is all they were supposed to have or had.

                Well, the rest ....
                "You used to make furniture. Now you will be assembling bedside tables. Be proud, your role is increasing. Therefore, we will take all tools from you except screwdrivers and hexagons."
                laughing laughing laughing

                Quote: shahor
                The fleet wants to additionally purchase

                Do you even know that in the USA the ILCs and the Navy are different organizations, sometimes even signing agreements between themselves?
                1. shahor
                  shahor 13 May 2020 23: 52 New
                  -1
                  Do you even know what we discussed with your opponent? We got into someone else's argument, so at least read the text carefully! And about LCS I wrote in Russian, attached to the gain! Attached, do you understand the meaning? Do you understand Russian well?
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 14 May 2020 00: 07 New
                    +2
                    Quote: shahor
                    Do you even know what we discussed with your opponent?

                    Yes.
                    He claimed that the ILC was lowered

                    You are the other way around.
                    Previously, the ILC was actually the second Army, controlled only by the President. And ready to act anywhere in the world
                    Now they are being reduced to a specialized cheap tool to scare China
                    And you are trying to assert that in fact for the ILC this is a huge growth and a "growing role"

                    Quote: shahor
                    And about LCS I wrote in Russian, attached to the gain!

                    And before the "increase in the role" of the ILC, was it supposed to act completely independently?

                    In short, "we are taking tanks from you, and therefore you are now incredibly tough guys"
                    laughing
                    1. shahor
                      shahor 14 May 2020 13: 27 New
                      0
                      Quote: Spade
                      Now they are being reduced to a specialized cheap tool to scare China

                      Well, firstly, a specialized tool is the most expensive. Specialized and cheap are mutually exclusive concepts. Secondly, the confrontation with China is now the basis of US military construction. China is the No. 1 potential adversary for them. We can have our own opinion, but the Americans think so. Given this, they set, in the changed conditions, new tasks for their military elite, the ILC. Since the new tasks and the conditions for their solution require different methods and means, the Americans are now investing a lot of money in the corresponding re-equipment of the ILC. I emphasize once again that deterring China is now the most important task for the United States, in their opinion. And the solution to the most important task, anyone will not be trusted. And who is better than the ILC in the USA is ready for operations on landing on the skeletons in the ocean, their retention, etc.? Well, neither infantry nor tank brigades! And for a quick transfer to another mainland and solving land problems, there is the 82nd US Parachute Division and similar units. By the way, these parts do not have heavy equipment either. Well, the ILC should not, as it was in previous years, act as a military police in the deserts of the Middle East!
                    2. Vasily Ponomarev
                      Vasily Ponomarev 15 May 2020 10: 58 New
                      0
                      > Previously, the ILC was actually the second Army, controlled only by the President
                      oh, these experts, propaganda even works for them good
                      it’s hard to find a better indicator of your ignorance
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 15 May 2020 11: 42 New
                        0
                        Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
                        oh, these experts, propaganda even works for them

                        Can you prove that the application of the ILC abroad without the consent of Congress is impossible?
                      2. Vasily Ponomarev
                        Vasily Ponomarev 15 May 2020 13: 03 New
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                        Well, for starters, I'll give you a link, it says a person who understands the topic https://vakhnenko.livejournal.com/237424.html
                        > You can prove
                        Well, for example, how can he apply it if Congress approves hostilities and money for her? better tell me what evidence do you have that he can dispose of it and what are the differences between the Marines and other branches?
                      3. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 15 May 2020 16: 04 New
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                        Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
                        Well, for starters, I'll give you a link, it says a person who understands the topic https://vakhnenko.livejournal.com/237424.html

                        Did you read what you wrote here?

                        I remind you: you need to prove that "it is impossible to use the ILC abroad without the consent of the Congress"

                        However, the "notification" is not "obtaining consent". And the use of troops for less than three months is still the use of troops

                        Therefore, it doesn’t. look further laughing laughing laughing
                      4. Vasily Ponomarev
                        Vasily Ponomarev 15 May 2020 16: 13 New
                        0
                        > At the same time, "notification" is not "obtaining consent". And the use of troops for less than three months is still the use of troops
                        what notice? what application? how will you fight without money?
                        > Therefore, it fails. look beyond laughing laughing laughing
                        add gygygy
                        > I remind you:
                        I remind you too
                        Well, for example, how can he apply it if Congress approves hostilities and money for her? better tell me what evidence do you have that he can dispose of it and what are the differences between the Marines and other branches?
                        > At the same time, "notification" is not "obtaining consent"
                        you wrote
                        "controlled only by the President."
                        i will paste the text
                        The President is required to obtain Congressional approval for the participation of the US Armed Forces in these hostilities at the latest ninety days after the commencement of these operations. Congress has the right at any time to demand the withdrawal of troops.
                      5. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 15 May 2020 16: 42 New
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                        Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
                        what notice? what application?

                        Well, definitely not read laughing
                        In the article by the link about it everything is perfectly written.

                        Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
                        how will you fight without money?

                        What money does Trump build a fence for? Despite strong opposition from Congress ...

                        Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
                        look, you wrote "Previously, the ILC was actually the second Army controlled only by the President," I greet you with an article where it says "That is, the President must notify Congress when the US Armed Forces take part in hostilities."
                        it turns out you lied? or how laughing laughing laughing

                        Uh ...
                        It seems that the problem is much deeper that the mere failure to read the article from its own link.
                        You do not seem to know the meaning of the word "notify"
                      6. Vasily Ponomarev
                        Vasily Ponomarev 15 May 2020 16: 53 New
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                        > Well, you definitely haven't read laughing
                        In the article by the link about it everything is perfectly written.
                        God, fabulous, well, give an example of where, and what is the difference between marines and other branches, (otherwise you have somehow avoided commenting for the hundredth time wassat )
                        > What money does Trump use to build a fence? Despite active opposition from Congress ...
                        fabulous, one more confirmation of your lies and the fact that you don’t understand anything, you couldn’t even check wassat here
                        The money for the fence will be taken from the budget provided for the construction and repair of other 127 military facilities, both in the US and abroad - the construction of all these facilities will be frozen. Once again, he could not get the wall to be built from Congress, he just took available money (which Congress gave him) and transferred from other projects
                        > You don't seem to know the meaning of the word "notify"
                        you probably don’t know, but if you’re so stupid (if only because in the text in which I gave it, the Marines are no different from other branches, which means that, by your logic, nobody submits to Congress? wassat but since you have not read, and accuse me of this, however, I am not surprised, then I will say that "notify" in this case means that if the congressmen do not like it, they can cancel it, which means the marines cannot follow the presidential decrees, so you are lying
                      7. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 15 May 2020 17: 03 New
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                        Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
                        In the article by the link about it everything is perfectly written.

                        That's it!
                        The president decides to use the ILC, notifies about this decision Congress and three months later if necessary gets permission for further use

                        That is, you have not found what was required of you.



                        Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
                        he could not get the wall to be built from congress, he just took the money

                        Bingo!
                        Just took the available money.
                        That is, here reality has refuted abstract reasoning.

                        Therefore, I repeat again, look.
                      8. Vasily Ponomarev
                        Vasily Ponomarev 15 May 2020 17: 20 New
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                        *> Exactly!
                        The President makes a decision on the use of the ILC, notifies Congress of this decision and, in three months, if necessary, receives permission for further application
                        haha, I can repeat it again, it’s not difficult for me
                        in the text in which I gave it is written that the Marines are no different from other branches, which means, according to your logic, no one obeys the Congress? and that means your lies "controlled only by the President"? Yes or no?
                        > Bingo!
                        Just took the available money
                        maybe an alien talks to me who doesn’t understand what I’m talking about, let's have a budget on our fingers, let's say 100 rubles, in which 30 rubles for building buildings for the army, the rest for something else, you need more money to build a fence, but money the congress does not give what he did, he took out of the money (100) that Congress had already given him, and of 30 rubles he spent 25 on buildings for the army, and 5 rubles on the fence, as a result, they simply redistributed this budget without increasing
                        and in order to start a war, you need to ask Congress to raise the budget since war is expensive
                        > if necessary, obtains permission for further use
                        Bingo, and if you do not get permission, then "turn it back" (which you need to get, this is not the USSR where everyone votes at once like in 9 minutes (and they say the USSR was a bureaucratic country, how quickly laws are passed, not a single one against)
                        however, so everyone, I hope now you will answer me how the Marines differ from the other branches, otherwise it turns out
                      9. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 15 May 2020 17: 23 New
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                        Much has been written, but there is no answer to the question asked.

                        Well, why waste your keyboard resource in vain?
                      10. Vasily Ponomarev
                        Vasily Ponomarev 15 May 2020 17: 30 New
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                        > Much has been written, but there is no answer to the question asked.
                        well, little is written, but there is no answer, how are the marines different from the rest of the branches
                        Well, at least answer, did you understand why your fence example is wrong?
                        I don’t ask you to admit that you were wrong, by the way, if you read the comments under the post that I gave, you will find out where this myth about the Marines came from, although wait a minute, I didn’t read it wassat
                        PS: well, it’s really funny how everything is in the 9th minute, ABSOLUTELY everyone adopts laws without a single against, that’s efficiency, and then we are surprised and blame the humpback how he destroyed the USSR
                      11. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 15 May 2020 17: 54 New
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                        Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
                        well, little is written, but there is no answer,

                        I don’t have to answer anything.

                        It is you who must find confirmation that the application of the ILC abroad without the consent of Congress is impossible

                        Search. Do not be distructed.
                        And then even the USSR with Brezhnev dragged laughing
                        Are you paid line by line?
                        In short, if there is no answer, I see no point in "feeding".
                      12. Vasily Ponomarev
                        Vasily Ponomarev 15 May 2020 18: 02 New
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                        > And then even the USSR and Brezhnev dragged
                        I’m just kidding, just really funny, although I didn’t fit this topic
                        > Do you have to find confirmation that the use of the ILC abroad is impossible without the consent of Congress?
                        how do you manage to repeat this again, I gave you a link, where it is written that there are no differences between the marines and other branches, but you already do not "notice" it a hundred times, just read the text completely and you will no longer want to argue with me

                        Another version comes across - they say the ILC is not included in the ground forces, and therefore a loophole appears on their use bypassing the "Resolution on Military Powers". But we turn to the same US Code, specifically - 10 US Code § 101. And we see there: (4) The term “armed forces” means the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard. So yes, the USMC is part of the US Armed Forces
                        PS: at least you read the horses of the article, understand where this myth comes from (God, tired of repeating yourself)
                        > I don't need to answer anything.
                        Is that how you answered my tricky questions, or did you really believe that only you can ask questions? and when your inconsistencies are answered with a counter question, you are immediately like "I don't need to answer anything."
      2. Vasily Ponomarev
        Vasily Ponomarev 15 May 2020 16: 34 New
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        look, you wrote "Previously, the ILC was actually the second Army, controlled by only to the President", I gave you an article where it is written" That is, the president must notify Congress when the US military takes part in hostilities. "
        it turns out you lied? or how laughing laughing laughing wassat
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 13 May 2020 18: 44 New
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    Quote: shahor
    As for the Marines, their role is only increasing.

    laughing
    Naturally.
    How else...
    Limitation of opportunities is always justified by "increasing role"
    1. shahor
      shahor 13 May 2020 23: 39 New
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      Quote: Spade
      increasing role "

      More precisely, changed. Read my comment above
  • +5
    +5 14 May 2020 08: 55 New
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    Instead of LCS, a new frigate based on FREMM is being sawed, their number will be reduced significantly compared to the original plans.
  • zwlad
    zwlad 13 May 2020 17: 02 New
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    Yeah. I wonder how much G overload the electronics must withstand when fired.
    Isn’t it easier to shoot a missile from an MLRS at such a distance with the same GOS?
  • demiurg
    demiurg 13 May 2020 17: 26 New
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    Questions above the roof. If the shell has a mass of explosives and fragments as usual 155mm, then this is 40+ kg. There should be a rocket from the floor of the barrel. If less, then what's the point?
    1. bk316
      bk316 13 May 2020 18: 08 New
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      There should be a rocket from the floor of the barrel.

      Valery. You think this is not a simple rocket engine, it is a direct-flow pump: turbines, pipelines, compressors, a generator and also steering wheels, GOS. And is that all to throw 40 kg warhead?
      And I’m still wondering how they will refuel him, in the position of a Negro with a canister?
      Or are they going to do solid fuel direct exhaust?
  • +5
    +5 14 May 2020 08: 49 New
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    Well, about the same thing, we heard HEART projectiles - on the Zavolvte type they are ... at 0,9 million bucks apiece .... God forbid the usual 122-mm shell. Yes, from seeing mammoths M109 with a rate of 3 shots in 2 minutes ....

    We sawed the loot on the Cruzader, now the ji-ai instead of a modern self-propelled guns has beautiful pictures only
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 14 May 2020 09: 39 New
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      Quote: 5-9
      We sawed the loot on the Cruzader, now the ji-ai instead of a modern self-propelled guns has beautiful pictures only

      The funny thing is that if they had put "dear Crusaders" into the troops, they would have saved very, very significantly.
      Given the costs of the current program, the development of NLOS-C (XM1203) and the modernization of M109
  • DDZ57
    DDZ57 14 May 2020 10: 44 New
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    This is the third player to enter direct-flow technologies for artillery shells [Boeing + Nammo; RDM (Germany + South Africa)].
    Until 2010, TNO (Netherlands) developed a direct-flow engine for a 35mm projectile and was looking for partners for further work. here from their press release:
    TNO successfully developed a prototype 35 mm solid propellant direct-flow anti-aircraft missile, which demonstrated a steady flight speed of 1400 m / s. Solid propellant direct-flow jet technology provides simplicity and reliability, compatible with the harsh conditions of the gun firing. Meanwhile, its high fuel efficiency allows to increase flight range, reduce time to the target and increase kinetic energy, which leads to a higher probability of damage. What's next? Currently, TNO is in contact with the industry for the introduction of solid-fuel direct-flow jet technology of various calibers and applications, which can help increase the combat power of both naval and land artillery forces.
    And here is the ramjet work schedule (GMS conference report, March 27-30, 2006 - Ramjet Projectile Performance Demonstration).
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 14 May 2020 11: 30 New
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      Quote: DDZ57
      increase the combat power of both naval and land artillery forces.

      wassat
      I'm afraid we can't talk about any "power increase" here.
      Let's call this "a record range due to a decrease in the power of the projectile at the target"
  • alien308
    alien308 14 May 2020 16: 25 New
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    Pressing shells performed well in Syria. Video laid out. Self-propelled guns with crew or CP are more expensive. Disruption of an enemy offensive is also worth a lot.