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The new Ukrainian training aircraft UTL-450 began testing

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The new Ukrainian training aircraft UTL-450 began testing

In Ukraine, a new training aircraft for training pilots. According to Ukrainian media, on May 5, 2020, the UTL-450 aircraft first left for the runway.


As explained in the press service of Motor Sich, the new UTL-450 training aircraft is a thoroughly repaired and modernized Soviet Yak-52 aircraft with installed Ukrainian AI-450C turboprop engine and a 5 variable pitch MTV-5 rotor propeller . For the first time the aircraft was shown at the exhibition "Aviasvit XXI - 2016" in October 2016 in Kiev. As stated, the aircraft is intended for training pilots.

The unique light aircraft UTL-450 began to pass tests - such a winged machine has no analogues in Ukraine, and should become a universal training apparatus

- said the president of Motor Sich JSC Vyacheslav Boguslaev.


According to the president, negotiations are already underway with the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine to use this aircraft not only for the initial training of pilots, but for pilots to use weapons. However, he did not explain what weapons they intend to install on the UTL-450.

The first tests of the new aircraft were carried out on the ground, without taking off into the air. During the tests, the operation of the engine and other aircraft systems and devices was checked, after which runway runs were carried out. Further plans for testing the UTL-450 have not yet been reported.


According to the declared characteristics, the empty weight is 900 kg, the maximum take-off weight is 1315/1500 kg (aerobatic / multi-purpose category), the maximum horizontal speed is 350 km / h, the maximum flight range with 10% fuel reserve is 650 km, and the maximum range flight with an additional fuel reserve - 2890 km, practical ceiling - 9000 m
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https://www.ukrmilitary.com/
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  1. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 13 May 2020 13: 07 New
    0
    I saw somewhere in YouTube P51 Mustang with a theater with two opposite screws ..... cool!
    1. novel66
      novel66 13 May 2020 13: 09 New
      +7
      it's almost Tucano !!
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 13 May 2020 13: 29 New
        16
        Quote: novel xnumx
        it's almost Tucano !!

        No. With all due respect to the "glider donor" Yak-52, it cannot be compared to the Embraer EMB 314 Super Tucano ...



        Turboprop engine? This is certainly good, but the glider light fusion will not be able to "take on board" 1500 kg of payload / combat load ...
        I can foresee skepticism about what was written regarding the fact that Tucano was also originally designed as a lightweight TCB, but you need to be aware that the Brazilians worked hard and fruitfully on it, that if dill succeed, it’s NOT possible to establish a release ...
        Is that - "Ukrotukano", like a wunderwaffle ...
        1. novel66
          novel66 13 May 2020 13: 31 New
          +4
          the conversation was about
          P51 Mustang with TVD with two opposite screws

          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 13 May 2020 13: 35 New
            +1
            Quote: novel xnumx
            the conversation was about
            P51 Mustang with TVD with two opposite screws

            Ahhh recourse ... And I thought even that you are about the dill alteration of the Yak-52 ... The article is about him.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 13 May 2020 14: 17 New
              +1
              Quote: Insurgent
              Ahhh ... And I thought even that you are about the dill alteration of the Yak-52 ... The article is about him.

              Yes. anyway, it’s a REMAKE, not a new plane. as stated.

              what "pisses me off" is that. that not ONE of the interviewed velikouk.ru, NOT a WORD in the great mov ... said! Everything is exclusively in RUSSIAN! belay lol

              Shame ...
              1. Red Dragon
                Red Dragon 13 May 2020 15: 35 New
                +2
                And you are not happy that in Russian belay Why?
              2. VO3A
                VO3A 13 May 2020 16: 09 New
                +9
                What about permission to remake the Yak-52? Did they get permission from the Yakovlev firm? So all this their creativity is illegal! Or now there will be no questions for us about Ruslan? It will not pass certification and no one has the right to fly it, even inside Ukraine .... A single sample for the personal use of these testers and ... that's all. Are they there, in general, stupefied or something? And people with such surnames are pushing Ukrainian fakes .... It’s very hard to see .... and with a head too ...
              3. Santa Fe
                Santa Fe 13 May 2020 19: 44 New
                -6
                Yes. anyway, it’s a REMAKE, not a new plane. as stated.

                Like most unparalleled inventions in the post-Soviet space

                The Ukrainian approach, the technologies and capabilities of the military-industrial complex are no different from the Russian
                Disgrace

                Yes
        2. Klingon
          Klingon 13 May 2020 15: 19 New
          0
          and they will make of it not a copy of Supertukano but Skakolitak wassat
        3. gurzuf
          gurzuf 13 May 2020 15: 38 New
          +3
          What a release! The gliders of the Yak will end and all uniqueness and production will be covered.
      2. engineer74
        engineer74 13 May 2020 14: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: novel xnumx
        it's almost Tucano !!

        What the hell is Tucano? what For some reason, everything goes astray on their theater, from two-hundred-gram drones to multi-role fighters and heavy transporters .... And this situation is unlikely to change. repeat
    2. avg
      avg 13 May 2020 19: 46 New
      +4
      I saw somewhere in YouTube P51 Mustang with a theater with two opposite screws ..... cool!

      And if you put the Maksim machine gun on top of it, then put the machine gun on it, where the Mustang will be angry
      1. Rushnairfors
        Rushnairfors 14 May 2020 06: 44 New
        0
        Avg bravo !!!!! I love such comments, our humor is everything, you are a definite plus!
  2. DenZ
    DenZ 13 May 2020 13: 07 New
    +9
    It looks like a Yak-52 with a new engine and electronics.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 13 May 2020 13: 13 New
      +3
      So he is it ..
    2. Evdokim
      Evdokim 13 May 2020 13: 18 New
      +8
      So he is
      The new UTL-450 training aircraft is a thoroughly repaired and modernized Soviet Yak-52 aircraft with installed Ukrainian AI-450C turboprop engine and a 5-blade MTV-5 variable pitch propeller.

      So the new Ukrainian, this is the Soviet old, though with a different engine. good
      The next will be a tactical strategic bomber. I do not know what he will be called, but looking at his photograph, most will exclaim "This is AN 2." laughing
      1. TAMBU
        TAMBU 13 May 2020 13: 23 New
        +1
        the engine was also originally Soviet, only modified by foreign components and engineers working for a penny)
        1. gurzuf
          gurzuf 13 May 2020 15: 35 New
          +2
          Everything is "unique"!
          1. Finn
            Finn 13 May 2020 18: 40 New
            0
            The phrase "has no analogues in Ukraine" smiled. They would write in the world.
    3. avg
      avg 13 May 2020 19: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: DenZ
      It looks like a Yak-52 with a new engine and electronics.

      Winn the Pooh: "How do I look?" Piglet: "Like a bear in a balloon."
    4. IL-18
      IL-18 13 May 2020 21: 00 New
      0
      Quote: DenZ
      Looks like a Yak-52 with a new engine

      good resume
    5. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 14 May 2020 06: 48 New
      +1
      Glasscockpit, fuck, this is not a halam-balam for you, I wonder if they have their own LCD displays or have they called from "friends"?
  3. Zementbomber
    Zementbomber 13 May 2020 13: 08 New
    -3
    The pipe of course - prELEst! ... bully
    But the idea is not bad and reasonable.
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 13 May 2020 13: 55 New
      +1
      Antonov is so "good" that Motor Sich from Zaporozhye decided to build planes for the campaign.
      1. Avior
        Avior 13 May 2020 17: 00 New
        -3
        To upgrade
        And helicopters too
        One of the projects of Boguslaev
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 13 May 2020 13: 08 New
    +5
    So you designed and made it yourself, or did you “repaint” the Soviet legacy?
    1. Sector
      Sector 13 May 2020 13: 13 New
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      So you designed and made it yourself, or did you “repaint” the Soviet legacy?

      laughing good Then don’t go to the grandmother and everything is clear .. These whole little things with repainting the whole world already knows and does not associate .. If only Africa buys and then .. wassat
    2. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 13 May 2020 13: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      So you designed and made it yourself, or did you “repaint” the Soviet legacy?


      What are you? After all, even a Boeing cannot survive without Antonov.
      The future of the Ukrainian state-owned enterprise Antonov, whose main area of ​​activity is the development, production and repair of An aircraft, depends on cooperation with Boeing, said Ukrainian Ambassador to the United States Volodymyr Yelchenko.

      “We recently submitted project proposals for Antonov aircraft to Boeing. An American company may be interested, if not in general production, then at least in part in the United States, or in investments in our aviation industry. I think that the future of the Antonov concern depends heavily on cooperation with the United States and Boeing, ”RIA Novosti reports Yelchenko’s words with reference to the Day publication.


      He also noted the relevance in modern conditions of commercial heavy aircraft, assuming that Boeing will think about the production of more cargo aircraft.

      “And here, Antonov, of course, has a lot to offer. I hope that we will come to concrete agreements, not just a prospect, but signing documents and, possibly, even creating a joint venture between Antonov and Boeing. I would very much like it to be implemented, ”the ambassador added.

      https://m.vz.ru/news/2020/5/13/1039026.html
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 13 May 2020 14: 39 New
        +1
        Mantras for the fragile mind .... after jumping, the gyrus is straightened, for them it will do.
    3. Valery Valery
      Valery Valery 13 May 2020 13: 37 New
      +1
      New Ukrainian

      "New Ukrainian" can only be a mushroom or a bush, or, at worst, a sparrow ....
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 13 May 2020 13: 51 New
        +1
        Valery, do not mention the animal world. They are wiser than us. wink
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 13 May 2020 13: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: Valery Valery
        "New Ukrainian" can only be a mushroom or a bush, or, at worst, a sparrow ....

        The mushroom is wormy, under the bush it is inlaid, the sparrow is more than once shot ...

        Who needs this "novelty"?
        1. Sector
          Sector 13 May 2020 14: 10 New
          -1
          Quote: Insurgent
          Who needs this "novelty"?

          Most likely for PR, Tipo that's something we produce ourselves ..)))))
          Earlier, during the Soviet era, "Mriya" aircraft were giants, Aircraft-carrying cruisers, Rockets "Satan" and other satellites .. Produced and created in the Ukrainian SSR hi
          Now, like that, even Ukrainian lard was banned for their production from Poland. They exported lard to Ukraine .. negative
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 13 May 2020 14: 37 New
            +1
            As always, they will put bans and regulations ...
            Another thing is that foreign guardians can so impose that there will simply be nothing to put.
            1. Sector
              Sector 13 May 2020 15: 28 New
              0
              Quote: rocket757
              Another thing is that foreign guardians can so impose that there will simply be nothing to put.

              The outskirts are already accustomed to this .. Industry has handed over everything and s / x And they were not allowed into the EU .. They demand to sell the land, the last thing that remains with the horses in Kiev! But Donbass hold on soldier
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 13 May 2020 16: 22 New
                +1
                Hazy and muddy ... well, so they themselves muddied.
                1. Sector
                  Sector 13 May 2020 18: 19 New
                  +2
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Hazy and muddy ... well, so they themselves muddied.

                  You are Victor about Donbass, as I understand it .. Well, there is something incomprehensible in the authorities and in general here they have forgotten that they are constantly being fired upon, etc. No matter how they surrendered .. That will be "fun" for some here .. everything is possible Somehow infa from Donbass and Syria, suddenly stopped coming .. And this is bad! It smacks of surrender and an excuse, if it weren't for coronavirus, we would have them, etc. I don't like it all negative hi
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 13 May 2020 19: 38 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Sektor
                    about Donbass, as I understand it.

                    About the dill side! muddy and plagued.
                    Donbass is a separate issue .... a lot there is also not clear, but we accept as it is.
                    The topic is pushed from the front pages, but so far there are hot events, for us at least. The infection will subside and again there will be hot news from the hot zones.
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 13 May 2020 13: 09 New
    -2
    Rave! Piston aircraft were used to train civil aviation pilots. The military always started with L39! Trying to push a sports plane into the Moscow Region from hopelessness and not a distant mind!
    1. TAMBU
      TAMBU 13 May 2020 13: 17 New
      +1
      What other piston? Excellent dviglo, especially with a French starter ... I can’t say anything about the plane ... I didn’t see anything in the iron ...
  6. Kamchatsky
    Kamchatsky 13 May 2020 13: 10 New
    +5
    Yak52 is not very suitable for initial training, rather strict, underground nickname: "Cannibal".
    By putting on it a turbo propeller engine a new plane was not made.
    It remains to be seen how this ax will fly.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 13 May 2020 13: 54 New
      +2
      Edward, in the movie "Duck Village" the ax floated. Who knows, they can fly ... recourse
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 13 May 2020 14: 00 New
        0
        Quote: sabakina
        Edward, in the movie "Duck Village" the ax floated.

        Yeah yes , from the village of Kukuev (Kiev what ?) ...
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 13 May 2020 14: 04 New
          +2
          Quote: Insurgent
          Quote: sabakina
          Edward, in the movie "Duck Village" the ax floated.

          Yeah yes , from the village of Kukuev (Kiev what ?) ...

          Oh, it's Kukuevo! They have something going on forever there!
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      3. Kamchatsky
        Kamchatsky 13 May 2020 14: 14 New
        0
        Edward, in the movie "Duck Village" the ax floated. Who knows, they can fly ... recourse
        Well, these and the iron will float like a duck ... laughing
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 13 May 2020 14: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: Kamchatka
          Edward, in the movie "Duck Village" the ax floated. Who knows, they can fly ... recourse
          Well, these and the iron will float like a duck ... laughing

          It's not that floating ...
          Swims. Bump, the ax is floating!
          And let him swim, maybe he needs to. Or maybe this is not an ax at all.
          Who?
          You never know who knows.

          Lyrics of films: http://cinematext.ru/movie/derevnja-utka-1976/?page=5
  7. bober1982
    bober1982 13 May 2020 13: 13 New
    -4
    Впервые rode out on the runway ....., according to Ukrainian media
    It would not have moved to a ditch.
  8. iouris
    iouris 13 May 2020 13: 13 New
    +3
    Deep modernization of the Yak-18P. Strongly resembles the splintery idea of ​​a major leader in relation to the An-2 with an obvious perspective.
  9. purple
    purple 13 May 2020 13: 16 New
    -3
    The new UTL-450 training aircraft is a thoroughly repaired and modernized Soviet Yak-52 aircraft


    Well, you don’t even have to read further ...
  10. 113262a
    113262a 13 May 2020 13: 18 New
    0
    Romanians did it under license. Again for the old. Although, compared with 52 non-brothers facilitated this remake.
  11. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 13 May 2020 13: 19 New
    -5
    new developments in Ukraine are no longer ... successfully ruined the school of aircraft ...
  12. Tuzik
    Tuzik 13 May 2020 13: 21 New
    0
    I wonder if they themselves made the building or restored the old one?
    1. Sector
      Sector 13 May 2020 14: 13 New
      -5
      Quote: Tuzik
      I wonder if they themselves made the building or restored the old one?

      There’s nothing to restore there, they all sold out .. At the level of the air mug (from the times of the USSR) they have created and are boasting negative
      1. Aag
        Aag 13 May 2020 19: 14 New
        0
        Do we have at least air mugs?
  13. orionvitt
    orionvitt 13 May 2020 13: 21 New
    0
    Training aircraft for elementary training have always been with piston engines, due to their low cost. It’s not a pity if the cadet accidentally dies a little. Turboprop, at times (if not an order of magnitude) more expensive. Ukrainian fashion, helicopter engines, cram into airplanes. They put it on the An-3 (VK-1500), on the AN-140 (TVZ-117), now this is a new (old) miracle (AI-450).
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 13 May 2020 13: 56 New
      0
      I do not agree, almost all TCB basic training is now on a turboprop.

      Examples of the RS-9 and its clones - under a thousand riveted turboprop. And now there is Pilatus21, and they have already been collected for 300 pieces. Generally № 1 family of light fusion in the world now.


      Texan2 and it also riveted for 500, also a turboprop.


      Embraer - well, no comment here.


      Newcomers to the industry, who have densely sat down on the RF Ministry of Defense / Ministry of Industry, build the most top-end and charged version of the DA-50 around turboprop. Already flies with the AI-450. Now other turbines are still being shut down (well, so that the DA-50s also begin to be assembled at the UGCA in the configuration itself). And DA62 (the top-end and the largest with a certificate in the company's lineup) is still in the diesel version, but they are already making turboprop, they have been certified for 22 years.
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 13 May 2020 14: 17 New
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        In general, the No. 1 family of light fusion vehicles in the world is now

        Yes, let them do what they want in the world, talk about Ukraine. Does she have enough money to put expensive turboprop engines on light training aircraft? Not for nothing Boguslaev in the photo, so mysteriously smiles. lol It seems to me that this "device" will be released in pieces, up to a dozen. Like a Mi-2MSB helicopter.
        1. gurzuf
          gurzuf 13 May 2020 15: 54 New
          0
          They will release (possibly) as many as the YAK gliders "shoot".
          1. orionvitt
            orionvitt 13 May 2020 16: 04 New
            -1
            Yes, they can "shoot" a lot of gliders, at the bottom. The question is different. Who will pay for this banquet? There is no money. Neither Ukraine as a state, nor Motor Sich. And for export, there are enough of their own, the market is large.
            1. gurzuf
              gurzuf 13 May 2020 16: 05 New
              0
              "Shooting" a lot, on the bottom of the barrel for free, after all, it will not work, but for denyuzhku - they will hang themselves.
              1. orionvitt
                orionvitt 13 May 2020 16: 26 New
                0
                Quote: gurzuf
                "shoot" a lot, you won't be able to do it for free

                It will work very well. At one time (ten years ago), "Motor Sich", bought out old "killed" helicopters from all over Ukraine at the price of scrap metal. At the Zaporozhye airport, at the Motor Sich site (section 64), they stood in rows. After replacing engines (fortunately that they themselves produce) and general repairs, they were already sold as full-fledged products. But such machines as MI-8 and MI-24 are in demand in the world. And who needs a training aircraft with a new engine that has not been tested in series on real aircraft (except for the Mi-2MSB as an experiment). At one time, in the west, old Soviet aerobatic aircraft such as Yak-50, Yak-52, Yak-55, SU-26 were popular, solely due to their low cost. With the new engine, this converted YAK falls into a different price category, and there are better options. The market, as they say, does not sleep.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 13 May 2020 17: 08 New
                  0
                  Helicopters and Avionics greatly upgraded

                  I see this too.
                2. Red Dragon
                  Red Dragon 14 May 2020 02: 52 New
                  0
                  Dear orionvitt? Where did you get such information wink Dear orionvitt, don't be afraid
                  1. orionvitt
                    orionvitt 14 May 2020 14: 16 New
                    0
                    What should I be afraid of, the information is not secret. Or are you threatening? lol Somewhere on the old screw, there were satellite images, before and after. If I repair the screw, I can share it.
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      2. Red Dragon
        Red Dragon 14 May 2020 03: 16 New
        0
        Thanks you. Great comment wink
  14. 1536
    1536 13 May 2020 13: 30 New
    0
    How many times have they repeated to the world that Soviet developments, patents, scientific and technological achievements, etc. things and knowledge belong to the Russian Federation, as the assignee of the USSR. No, again they are tying and tyriry everyone who is not lazy. And there are no barriers, no opposition, no lawsuits, no bans. Apparently, it’s not enough for us that on the Internet Tsiolokovsky is a Pole, and Korolev is a Ukrainian, Tupolev tore everything off Sikorsky, Koshkin didn’t make a T-34 tank at all, since only the papers were signed, but the Ukrainian made him, Kalashnikov barely He could read and write, that’s why he made his machine gun in Kazakhstan by sight, so there can be no patents for AKM.
    How long will this jerking of the beetle's legs continue? Isn't it time to use the wings, get up and kick on the lips, necks and naughty hands of those who are used to stealing, but always passed it off as "brotherly kinship", but in fact, in leech mode, sucked blood, being a part of the USSR, today I decided to declare it your property?
    1. Red Dragon
      Red Dragon 13 May 2020 15: 17 New
      +1
      What are you talking about? AI-450, which means Alexander Ivchenko 450. The engine was developed at the State Enterprise "Ivchenko-Progress", where is Russia? belay
      1. sergand53
        sergand53 14 May 2020 21: 19 New
        0
        A. Ivchenko is no longer in the world. He would have turned over in his grave from the knowledge of what KB had turned him into!
        1. Red Dragon
          Red Dragon 14 May 2020 21: 21 New
          +1
          And what did the design bureau turn it into? winked
  15. Angelo Provolone
    Angelo Provolone 13 May 2020 13: 40 New
    +1
    The announcer speaks Ukrainian, and the people speak Russian. Joke
    the pilot Pearl issued: "This plane has nothing to do with the basis on which the designers are now making it."
    Well, nothing to do
  16. Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 May 2020 13: 49 New
    -1
    Judging by the photo, the native Yak-52, only another engine, but judging by the dashboard, everything is the same, only the entire central part has been redone. Even the indicator lamps for cleaning and releasing the chassis remained almost in place. Dolbyotyatli they are and they will remain for eternal times.
  17. Cowbra
    Cowbra 13 May 2020 13: 57 New
    +2
    Compared with the Maidan catapult and dill-1

    - an undoubted step forward! Previously, the Mi-2 dvigun was screwed onto a decommissioned Canadian pepelats, now they found the old Yak planer in the rubbish dump and screwed their own motor on Chinese glue) Soon they will realize that they are over there. abroad Wild Field - not meteorites rummaging around, but that mankind has already invented jet aircraft ...
    1. Red Dragon
      Red Dragon 13 May 2020 15: 24 New
      -1
      I'm wondering. And you may ask, which planes and engines did you develop, what are you broadcasting with such wonderful irony? What aviation bureau are you working in? Finished MAI or at least KhAI perfectly fine of course? wink
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 13 May 2020 15: 54 New
        -3
        Do not be afraid, even an ordinary technical "tower" is enough for me to understand what is for the country. proud of her rocket and aircraft industry, to buy a 1946 helicopter and attach a dvigun from the first serial Soviet helicopter to it - an achievement! And on the ancient Soviet TCB
        for initial training of the flight crew
        change the engine. what the technicians do at the airfield is a feat! "Unparalleled" turned out.
        First, answer, when in a restaurant they bring soup with flies and a poorly fried rat for the second - you say "well, I'm not a chef, he knows better," and, burning and munching, devour delicacies? then bon appetit, but I don’t eat this!
        1. Red Dragon
          Red Dragon 13 May 2020 16: 08 New
          +1
          Why not be afraid, and do not be afraid? I kind of didn’t drink 50 for you to familiarize with, or I forgot something, then I'm sorry. But this is so, further on. Do you know that Motor Sich JSC and GP Ivchenko-Progress are still making engines for jet aircraft, so I tried to clarify what you have to do with jet aircraft. Well, it's about your sparkling humor that mankind has already invented jet aircraft. wink After all, in order to joke like that, you need to be in the subject, and to develop and produce something better in jet aviation, isn't it? And so it is very similar to the person who sits on a sofa, spits seeds and gives out such high-quality humor wink
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 13 May 2020 16: 20 New
            -1
            Because "do not be afraid" and "do not fight" are stable phrases. Moreover, they deliberately do not correspond to the rules of the Russian language, and therefore are not, for example, an appeal to "you". Here "do not be afraid" - familiarity. "Don't be afraid" - no. But trying to teach a stranger is bad form.
            Developing motors? I am extremely happy for them! The truth about the aircraft industry news in Ukraine I have heard a little lately, but about what took off and flew - this is the mentioned Lev-1 and this one is TCB.
            Yavol, you want on the topic - explain to me, "not having", how the aircraft for "INITIAL flight personnel training" (c) when replacing the engine became "unparalleled" and "universal"? Now fighters are being retrained on it? from ancient Su-shek to the 5th generation? what is the source of pride, and how the Yak-52, from which the engine was ripped out in the Ukraine with meat, is not an analogue that sharply became this "byak-byak-byak" wings, here I will listen.
            But to tell me who I am, how I am - it’s something that is not in your mustache, don’t you?
            1. Red Dragon
              Red Dragon 13 May 2020 16: 34 New
              +1
              Regarding you and you, maybe you are right, I agree. About jokes. Sorry of course. You have heard little about aviation news in Ukraine, but you are so joking about it. This is what surprises me. I can still understand the discussion and jokes on myself in specialized aviation forums, where experts communicate with each other, but here? I will not joke
              about things where I'm not an expert. Are you kidding? That's what is strange to me. wink
              1. Cowbra
                Cowbra 13 May 2020 16: 46 New
                -2
                Yes, again - I did not discuss any specialized topics, but it doesn’t mean at all that since you are not a sniper, do you think that Kalash fires with a harpoon? After all, is aircraft capable of understanding something? And what is difficult to understand, what are the beaters turning on their ears about no analogues?
                I, mind you, did not say anything about dvigun - I do not know. But about the fact that the Cossacks once again give it as a break, tinted and modernized by a flasher and an ukroflag on board, he said. Why is it difficult not to understand? not noticeable chtoli?
                PiSi: if my words seemed offensive to you - regarding YOU - then I will apologize. But about SUCH - tired of listening, some songs, and all linden!
                1. Red Dragon
                  Red Dragon 13 May 2020 17: 47 New
                  +1
                  Again. With a stretch, I can still take a joke about the pepelats. But about what to guess about jet aircraft in Ukraine. You are not laughing at the country. You are over concrete good specialists, of whom there are few, but still remained in Ukraine, laughing. Without knowing in what conditions, on what topics they work. From the loop, let's laugh, gee gee. wink
                2. Red Dragon
                  Red Dragon 13 May 2020 20: 27 New
                  +2
                  I absolutely agree with the respected AAG. You talk about unremarkable dill, not trying to separate people, all one by one. It does not honor you, sorry of course. Offensive jokes, below the baseboard, sorry again sad
                  1. Cowbra
                    Cowbra 13 May 2020 20: 47 New
                    -1
                    Understood the criticism. But he didn't. Kohl further "unrequited one size fits all" will screw me up, I am a reader, so - to me. Take offense guys. That you are tired of listening to nonsense from you. Do you work for Antonov? Perfectly! An-178 yours? Your centering establishment screwed up laughing? Not all of you need to be scratched with the same brush? Get out of there, that's when I won't
                    1. Red Dragon
                      Red Dragon 13 May 2020 22: 04 New
                      0
                      Respect wink Fired Cowbra. Please comment on the IL-112 overstrain by a couple of tons. Comment on the extraordinary success of the superjet, taking into account the interview with the pilot of the plane that burned down at Sheremetyevo. If you say that Russia has learned that there is jet aircraft, I will agree with you
                      1. Cowbra
                        Cowbra 13 May 2020 22: 29 New
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                        Same. that more than once about it. This is how to laugh, right? Now for the second question. What are you proud of? Superjet - at least hey, he flies ... Yes, figs with them, even with the Ducklings - and he was 57th in combat in Syria. And what about the Ukrainians? Here are your "not having" together with Leo-1 - so, sweep in a bag - and tell about the insults
                      2. Red Dragon
                        Red Dragon 13 May 2020 23: 24 New
                        +4
                        Dear Cowbra. Superjet is just an option to make money for good people. Unfortunately, in Ukraine there is not so much money to launch an airplane and file such a good percentage. I was in Komsomolsk, I saw equipment for tens of millions of bucks. You can be proud of your thieves further, it’s your right, continue to believe in a well-flying Superjet. We call him Superhero. And my advice to you. Do not want to, do not follow it. If possible, refuse to fly on Superjet. winked
                      3. Red Dragon
                        Red Dragon 13 May 2020 23: 55 New
                        -1
                        Make an engine with Safran on Superjet. Well, this is the final degree of moronity. There are complaints against the French, but you, Rybinsk, will not do it. But the French do not care. You have them no more than one percent. wink
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                      5. Cowbra
                        Cowbra 14 May 2020 00: 55 New
                        0
                        Slam a glass, catch your breath. Come back wink
                        There are no enemies here. until you yourself are like an enemy. as in life
      2. Aag
        Aag 13 May 2020 19: 26 New
        +1
        For Cowbra.
        You twist ... Honestly, they write "unparalleled in Ukraine."
        In general, I was glad that the discussion of the article began with technical issues, and not about “underdeveloped ukrov.” And now, as expected, they slipped ...
        You at least try to differentiate between people who make planes, who make politics, who just survive.
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 13 May 2020 22: 32 New
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          Here the press center talks about them. And you are a provocateur about the topic. I am differentiating - the lad got out, to depict how filthy cotton wool got rid of it!) The story of the press center, the magazines, and they carry - NUCKEY! Not engineers, their president, right?
          1. Red Dragon
            Red Dragon 14 May 2020 00: 00 New
            -1
            What is filthy cotton wool here? You constantly carry nonsense, I just hope that you are not an Olga troll, but a person who understands at least something in the aircraft industry. I hope not mistaken
            1. Cowbra
              Cowbra 14 May 2020 00: 49 New
              -2
              And here is a colleague, well you are burning)
              1. Red Dragon
                Red Dragon 14 May 2020 02: 27 New
                -1
                Dear Cowdra colleague. You are very versed in the products of the aviation industry of Ukraine, judging by your comments. wink So please tell us what has been done by the excellent aviation industry in Russia in 2020. Regards, Red Dragon!
              2. Red Dragon
                Red Dragon 14 May 2020 02: 37 New
                0
                You see, dear Cowdra. You are in a completely lost position. 28phys. Mat school in Zaporozhye, and then those. university. with honors enough for understanding. You are a Russian Natsik, no better than moronic Ukrainian Natsiks. wink
            2. sergand53
              sergand53 14 May 2020 21: 11 New
              0
              Son, I know Olgino is a village near St. Petersburg, a highway to Sestroretsk passes through it, people live there, have been there, no one has heard about your "trolls" there. What are you talking about?
        2. Cowbra
          Cowbra 14 May 2020 07: 12 New
          +1
          Good nickname .. A-ah-already inserted?
  18. Avior
    Avior 13 May 2020 17: 11 New
    0
    . to buy a helicopter of 1946 and fasten a dvigun onto it from the first serial Soviet helicopter - an achievement!

    What did you mean?
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 13 May 2020 17: 24 New
      0
      Lev-1, Helicopter. This is the world's first mass-produced helicopter, they bought it in Canada, "modernized" it with an Mi-2 engine, and this photo is from the presentation of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense. New Ukrainian helicopter Lev-1 !!!
      Well, I say, it seems.
      The latest development of Ukroboronprom easily guesses the American Bell-47 helicopter produced in 1964, imported to Ukraine from Canada in the spring of 2015. The innovation consists in replacing the standard piston engine with a turboshaft engine from the Mi-2
  • KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 13 May 2020 14: 13 New
    +1
    The unique light aircraft UTL-450 began to pass tests
    Unique - is it in the sense of a single?
    such a winged machine has no analogues in Ukraine,
    Pure truth - in Ukraine there isn’t - even though it was born, and then the question is - was the glider painted new or old Yak-vsky?
    should become a universal training apparatus
    There are no others, the legacy of the damned past is dying ... maybe it will .. although it is unlikely - in the best case they will buy a couple abroad, it’s easier and kickbacks are better
    negotiations are already underway with the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine to use this aircraft not only for the initial training of pilots, but for pilots to use weapons
    Supertukano will not work - the payload is not the same, and negotiations, negotiations, and a hole in the budget - this is a hole in the budget - not up to projections in the foreseeable future
  • Topol M
    Topol M 13 May 2020 14: 36 New
    -1
    Under each wing a bucket of crap, that’s the bomber. Most importantly, for training pilots
  • pytar
    pytar 13 May 2020 14: 48 New
    +2
    As explained in the press service of "Motor Sich", the new training aircraft UTL-450 is an overhauled and modernized Soviet aircraft Yak-52 with the installed Ukrainian AI-450S turboprop engine and 5-blade variable pitch propeller MTV-5 ...





    1. sergand53
      sergand53 14 May 2020 21: 05 New
      0
      Tricky acted on a different scale Yak-52 and hohlopepelats! Here we are!
      1. pytar
        pytar 14 May 2020 21: 19 New
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        Sergey, I put the Yak-52 drawing on top of the UTL-450 advertising booklet. I was too lazy to play scale images. The silhouettes are almost the same, UTL is a modification of the YAK52. It is from Motor Sich directly say it! hi
  • Pavel73
    Pavel73 13 May 2020 14: 54 New
    -1
    And who will be taught on it? Ukronatoluftwaffe?
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 13 May 2020 14: 57 New
    0
    I saw the photo and was surprised where the Ukrainian letak is? Explicit Yak. laughing I guessed it. And these have already written it down as "unique".
    1. sergand53
      sergand53 14 May 2020 21: 02 New
      0
      Yak-52. Made in Romania.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 13 May 2020 15: 04 New
    -4
    Whom will they teach? .. Everyone fled to Europe, scrubbing latrines and picking strawberries.
  • Well done
    Well done 13 May 2020 15: 14 New
    0
    Instructions on the damned Moskal mov ?! Padded jackets work in motor sich! Ah, but what about pride? Dekomunizatory .....! laughing
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 13 May 2020 15: 19 New
    -1
    And is the clearance so big that there is no elm in the swamps?
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 13 May 2020 15: 21 New
    0
    Quote: Captive
    I saw the photo and was surprised where the Ukrainian letak is? Explicit Yak. laughing I guessed it. And these have already written it down as "unique".

    The stilts set their own. To not get stuck in a swamp.
    For five bladed propellers to hang them would ..... Exactly Soviet star is visible.
    Need four lobed with a bend of each blade. For ukrofashistov-the very thing.
  • Alexfly
    Alexfly 13 May 2020 17: 50 New
    +2
    Then they will put on the Yak-18T .....
    1. sergand53
      sergand53 14 May 2020 21: 01 New
      0
      they have no Yak-18T in production!
      1. Alexfly
        Alexfly 16 May 2020 12: 51 New
        0
        They will put on the old
  • IL-64
    IL-64 13 May 2020 21: 12 New
    +2
    And where will they find Yak gliders on any scale production scale? Or do they have an friendship period?
  • Pavlik K.
    Pavlik K. 13 May 2020 22: 15 New
    0
    They know how, cats are torn, to make engines ... If only we could set up such engines, yes to box 18, but like the plane of the initial training, all sessions are in the wreck ... And 50-52 - he is on the handle, in the Civil Air Fleet this does not roll. (all yuzal)
    1. sergand53
      sergand53 14 May 2020 21: 00 New
      0
      and you don’t use it, I flew them.
      1. Pavlik K.
        Pavlik K. 15 May 2020 11: 03 New
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        Colleague? Welcome. how are they with the engine advanced forward without reinforcing the front pillar (they are a weak spot there, and so on) ...
  • Fmax
    Fmax 13 May 2020 22: 32 New
    0
    How does a "motoric" survive ...
    1. Red Dragon
      Red Dragon 14 May 2020 00: 02 New
      0
      And what interests you. Well, how does it survive, what to tell?
  • Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 14 May 2020 01: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: Santa Fe
    Yes. anyway, it’s a REMAKE, not a new plane. as stated.

    Like most unparalleled inventions in the post-Soviet space

    The Ukrainian approach, the technologies and capabilities of the military-industrial complex are no different from the Russian
    Disgrace

    Yes

    and how is it possible in more detail about the "post-Soviet space" ???? who exactly and what exactly produces fighters, attack aircraft, bombers ?????
    When the approach, technologies and capabilities of the military-industrial complex are no different, then the results are similar - the difference may be in quantity depending on the size of the country / population. Let me remind you that Ukraine, according to its own statement, is at war, so I think it is logical to expect to see an annual increase following the results of 6 years of war, or at least just filling the necessary minimum with new (as I wrote above) fighters, attack aircraft, bombers. Even if there are those models that were at the time of the collapse of the union. I will give a list from open sources of what and in what quantity was supplied to the RF Armed Forces. Please, be so kind as to provide a list of what, when and what with links to the authoritative edition of Ukraine. Well, since all our capabilities are no different. If not, then no need to "whistle"
  • tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 14 May 2020 03: 04 New
    +1
    - "According to the president, negotiations are already underway with the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine to use this aircraft not only for the initial training of pilots, but for the use of weapons by pilots. At the same time, he did not explain what weapons they intend to install on the UTL-450." what will these "aces" be !!! ???.
    1. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber 14 May 2020 06: 39 New
      +1
      Existence of training aircraft category known as Weapons Trainers - passed you by ?? laughing
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 14 May 2020 09: 14 New
    +1
    what new is it, if only dvigun and screw distinguishes it from the Yak-52 ... In the best UKRAINIAN traditions, to give out slightly modernized for a new one ..
  • mlad
    mlad 14 May 2020 13: 15 New
    +1
    As I saw how the modellers comedians comedians attached to the scoop engine and he flew and this will fly, but how good?
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 14 May 2020 18: 01 New
    +1
    Strange, if the basis of the Yak-52, then its modification should be called Yak52 M..U..N?. But not like the new UTL-450 aircraft. what
  • Gray-haired
    Gray-haired 14 May 2020 18: 09 New
    +1
    And this pipe on the side, the output from the toilet? They would ask us, we would give a sketch, because in our villages and villages, guests from other galaxies roam around in our crafts.
  • sergand53
    sergand53 14 May 2020 20: 56 New
    0
    Yak-52 with a new engine. Is this news ?! Ah, yes ukroaviaprom!