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At a parade in Minsk, the Belarusian military showed a modernized BTR-70MB1

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At a parade in Minsk, the Belarusian military showed a modernized BTR-70MB1

At a military parade in Minsk on May 9, 2020, dedicated to the 75th anniversary of the Great Victory, the Belarusian military demonstrated a modernized version of the BTR-70 armored personnel carrier - BTR-70MB1. An armored personnel carrier was adopted by the Belarusian army in 2017.


In 2017, the Ministry of Defense of Belarus announced the completion by the 140th Repair Plant of experimental design work on upgrading the BTR-70 to the BTR-70MB1 level by order of the military department, as well as completing state tests of the modernized armored personnel carrier. Subsequently, the Belarusian military announced plans to modernize the entire existing BTR-70 fleet to the level of BTR-70MB1.

It should be noted that during the modernization, Belarusian specialists managed to bring the BTR-70 to the level of the BTR-80, significantly improving its characteristics. The car’s body was significantly improved, the airborne compartment increased by 14 cm, the side hatches were expanded, double-leaf doors were installed on both sides of the hull (the upper sash opens forward, the lower one leans back like on the BTR-80). In the landing compartment, new multi-seat seats are installed, like those in the BTR-80. Compared to the original BTR-70, the mass of the upgraded version became heavier by 1,5 tons and amounted to 13 tons. For disguise, the 902V Cloud-2 system of 6 grenade launchers was installed.

An 8-cylinder KamAZ diesel 7403.10 turbo-charged 260 hp, a new transmission with a modified transfer case and other control drive are installed on the upgraded armored personnel carrier. A water jet from the BTR-80 is installed as a mover for movement on water. The declared speed on the highway is up to 92 km / h, on the water - 9 km / h.

The armament of the armored personnel carrier has not changed, the turret is equipped with a 14,5-mm KPVT heavy machine gun and a 7,62 mm PKT machine gun. Communication is provided using the digital radio station R-181-50TU "Bustard" with protection from interference.

The BTR-70MB-1 armored personnel carriers shown at the parade have lattice screens installed in the factory and surrounding the vehicle’s body on all sides. It is assumed that this protection significantly reduces the likelihood of damage to armored vehicles by the cumulative charges of anti-tank grenade launchers.
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KONT blog, 140 repair plant
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  1. tanki-tanki
    tanki-tanki 12 May 2020 19: 31 New
    -2
    Thank you for the article.
    1. Civil
      Civil 13 May 2020 08: 00 New
      +3
      Isn't it cheaper to buy 80 from storage?
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 12 May 2020 19: 34 New
    +4
    Reasonable modernization. Probably, in my memory, the most rational. Usually, everything ends at 70 by replacing the engine with a diesel engine, but here the hull was also increased.
  3. tanki-tanki
    tanki-tanki 12 May 2020 19: 38 New
    0
    And if you put it into service, why not immediately to the parade? If a good upgrade.
  4. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 12 May 2020 19: 45 New
    +3
    And what is the effectiveness of these grids, is there infa?
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 12 May 2020 19: 56 New
      +6
      Small:
      1. 75 Sergey
        75 Sergey 12 May 2020 20: 00 New
        +1
        the grid would be pulled chtol
        1. Cowbra
          Cowbra 12 May 2020 20: 06 New
          +2
          There is a general sense that the grenade cuts into pieces, so that the grid is flimsy. But as you can see, and the grille - well, one grenade blew the driver's seat, without even tearing, the second flew and exploded ...
          1. 75 Sergey
            75 Sergey 12 May 2020 20: 21 New
            +4
            Something I doubt that the purpose of the grating is to cut something into pieces, but to change the path - yes.
            1. Vasyan1971
              Vasyan1971 13 May 2020 00: 28 New
              +1
              Quote: 75Sergey
              Something I doubt that the purpose of the grill is to cut something into pieces

              These grilles are a marauder's paradise. This is how much junk can you push there? belay
              Although not in vain and not for the same, probably, the fanciful thought of a soldier works?
              http://www.shovkunenko-book.ru/arsenal/zaschita-bronetehniki.html
          2. Torak
            Torak 12 May 2020 21: 37 New
            +2
            So far, she is just beginning to cut it. An operation has occurred and the jet has already formed.
          3. Kapkan
            Kapkan 13 May 2020 16: 28 New
            0
            The task of this grille is only one - to make the first part of the tandem ammunition work at a distance from the armor.
      2. tanki-tanki
        tanki-tanki 12 May 2020 20: 10 New
        0
        Small

        Sorry. Why then is she at all?
        1. Torak
          Torak 12 May 2020 21: 39 New
          +3
          Well, probably so that the crew did not run out of the car. Therefore they hid them all in a place in such a pen.
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 12 May 2020 22: 58 New
            0
            BTR-70MB1 - an ordinary box with bars or a coffin on castors for infantry.
      3. sabakina
        sabakina 12 May 2020 20: 28 New
        -2
        If the lattice were made in the form of honeycombs, I think the efficiency would increase significantly. Nature is wiser than us. But this is my amateurish opinion.
        1. Torak
          Torak 12 May 2020 21: 35 New
          16
          Most likely there would be bees wound up and there would be honey. And the grenade would stick.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 12 May 2020 20: 13 New
      +7
      Quote: 75Sergey
      And what is the effectiveness of these grids, is there infa?

      At the Research Institute of Steel, they are confident that
      http://www.niistali.ru/products/nauka/protection/slat_armor/
      "The probability of a grenade being destroyed with an electronic device does not exceed 0,5-0,6"
      1. Torak
        Torak 12 May 2020 22: 13 New
        -9
        This is because the representatives of your generation who chose Pepsi instead of knowledge began to work at the research institute! Such nonsense is written on the site by hired Mananjors who can’t distinguish a phalos from a finger and even more so do not understand these issues and have no relation to production! The photo shows COMBINED SCREENS, where the grid is ONLY its first element, a stuffed animal! And this is a completely different matter! Accordingly, on the site, thanks to your brothers in mind, the design is completely incorrectly named! And Belarusians just have a trellised screen, but not a combined one. And what is it, read I wrote below in my review about the parade.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 13 May 2020 09: 14 New
          0
          Quote: Torak
          This is because the representatives of your generation who chose Pepsi instead of knowledge began to work at the research institute! Such nonsense is written on the site by hired Mananjors who can’t distinguish a phalos from a finger and even more so do not understand these issues and have no relation to production!

          Are you sure that if you write nonsense twice, it will not be nonsense?
          Congratulations, this is not the case.
    3. Phantom 104
      Phantom 104 12 May 2020 20: 27 New
      +5
      Against the old RPG-7, they give some protection, but due to the fact that the thickness of the armor itself is not more than 20 mm, the cumulative stream will still pierce it.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 12 May 2020 20: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: Phantom 104
        the cumulative stream will still pierce it.

        With the correct operation of the screens of the cumulative jet does not occur.
        1. Torak
          Torak 12 May 2020 21: 27 New
          -4
          Go to sleep, expert. In the morning at school. Now mother comes and scolds.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 12 May 2020 21: 29 New
            +2
            Quote: Torak
            Go to sleep, expert. In the morning at school. Now mother comes and scolds.

            laughing
            Is that all you can argue with?
            It's below the baseboard
            laughing laughing laughing
            I'm ashamed of you
            1. Torak
              Torak 12 May 2020 21: 32 New
              -8
              Do not embarrass yourself. Your knowledge in this matter is at the level of a cook in a kindergarten.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 12 May 2020 21: 36 New
                0
                Quote: Torak
                Your knowledge in this matter is at the level of a cook in a kindergarten.

                There is a quote for the gifted from the site of the Research Institute of Steel

                The principle of the RE is based on the destruction of the cumulative funnel when a grenade falls between the strips of the lattice and thereby violates the formation of the cumulative jet. The probability of destruction of the grenade with the help of RE does not exceed 0,5-0,6.

                You do not just do not know, you actively persist in your ignorance
                laughing laughing laughing
                I am doubly ashamed of you

                By the way, do you know that the Earth is round?
                laughing
                1. novel66
                  novel66 12 May 2020 21: 48 New
                  +4
                  colleague hi Is it worth it to spend ardor if the opponent is not in the know? well him ...
                2. Torak
                  Torak 12 May 2020 22: 00 New
                  -9
                  Little boy, little boy, little boy! I dealt with this issue in the most in-depth way and began with textbooks labeled "Milking for official use" and ended with reports from numbered research institutes, both ours and foreign ones, plus a video of the mass shootings carried out by these research institutes and not by shepherds. Go brush your teeth and sleep, tomorrow you will go to school!
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 12 May 2020 22: 04 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Torak
                    Little boy, little boy, little boy! I dealt with this issue in the most in-depth way and began with textbooks marked "Doya for official use"

                    He started to lie ...
                    Not good.
                    And the earth is really, really round
                    laughing
                3. Torak
                  Torak 12 May 2020 22: 14 New
                  -1
                  This is because the representatives of your generation who chose Pepsi instead of knowledge began to work at the research institute! Such nonsense is written on the site by hired mananjors who can’t distinguish the phalos from the finger and even more so do not understand these issues and have no relation to production! The photo shows COMBINED SCREENS, where the grid is ONLY its first element, a stuffed animal! And this is a completely different matter! Accordingly, on the site, thanks to your brothers in mind, the design is completely incorrectly named! And Belarusians just have a trellised screen, but not a combined one. And what is it, read I wrote below in my review about the parade!
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 13 May 2020 09: 11 New
                    0
                    Quote: Torak
                    This is because the representatives of your generation who chose Pepsi instead of knowledge began to work at the research institute! Such nonsense is written on the site by hired Mananjors who can’t distinguish a phalos from a finger and even more so do not understand these issues and have no relation to production!

                    laughing
                    Still ashamed of your intellectual abilities.
                    Is it necessary to be gifted in order to think that the aforementioned refutes the fact that REs are intended to destroy a cumulative funnel?



                    Quote: Torak
                    The photo shows COMBINED SCREENS, where the grid is ONLY its first element, a stuffed animal!

                    BUT...
                    The gifted finally began to read the materials of the Research Institute of Steel ...
                    The combination of RE with additional armor screens (combined screens) not only increases bulletproof and protivosnaryadny protection, but also expands the capabilities of the RE to protect thin-armored projections, reducing the explosive impact on the armor and reducing the likelihood of its break.

                    This pleases, maybe you are a little smarter ...

                    laughing laughing laughing
                    1. Torak
                      Torak 13 May 2020 09: 43 New
                      -3
                      Well, just enchanting freak! Another victim of EG.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 13 May 2020 11: 14 New
                        0
                        Quote: Torak
                        Well, just enchanting freak! Another victim of EG.

                        laughing
                        I graduated from school in '93. But this is so, the lyrics.

                        Do you have at least something on the topic, or is there enough brain to spit on feces?
                4. Saxahorse
                  Saxahorse 12 May 2020 22: 25 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Spade
                  The principle of the RE is based on the destruction of the cumulative funnel when a grenade hits the strips of the lattice and thereby violates the formation of the cumulative jet.

                  And where does it follow that the piezoelectric fuse will not work during the destruction of the fairing by this same lattice? After all, it works on the appearance of an overload and not on a contact. Or is it believed that the grill cuts the fairing so gently that the fuse does not even move?

                  In general, people expressed the opinion that the effect is often the opposite, the lattices catch a missile flying by and increase the likelihood of damage.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 13 May 2020 09: 01 New
                    0
                    Quote: Saxahorse
                    And where does it follow that the piezoelectric fuse will not work during the destruction of the fairing by this same lattice?

                    Not in time.
                    1. Saxahorse
                      Saxahorse 13 May 2020 21: 19 New
                      0
                      Quote: Spade
                      Not in time.

                      Come on! For that, he is electric in order to keep up. laughing

                      I reviewed how many videos, I tried to understand the benefits of the bars. One only saw a case when the grenade did not work. Apparently a marriage. There is no particular benefit from these grids, only from nerves.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 13 May 2020 22: 01 New
                        0
                        Quote: Saxahorse
                        Come on! For that, he is electric in order to keep up.

                        However...
                        Quote: Saxahorse
                        I reviewed how many videos, I tried to understand the benefits of the bars. One only saw a case when the grenade did not work.

                        ??
                        Even after the destruction or damage of the cumulative funnel, the grenade works. Already as a high-explosive pest is not formed.
                        But here there is a chance of breaking armor in light armored vehicles. Due to brisant action

                        Lattice screens generally have many limitations. For example, as indicated below, an RPG with a tandem charge. Destruction of godfather. funnels or abnormal operation of the main charge is unlikely. Or most of the ATGMs currently in service are from destruction or damage to the godfather. the charge will be protected by steering machines, equipment and / or GOS. Well and so on.
                        The "partners" generally write that this is protection from "RPG", apparently referring to RPG-2 and RPG-7. Well, their clones.
                      2. Saxahorse
                        Saxahorse 14 May 2020 22: 19 New
                        0
                        Quote: Spade
                        Even after the destruction or damage of the cumulative funnel, the grenade works. Already as a high-explosive pest is not formed.

                        Well, where did you get that AFTER?
                      3. Saxahorse
                        Saxahorse 14 May 2020 22: 41 New
                        0
                        I couldn’t finish it right away :)

                        Remember the RPG-7 head design, the piezoelectric element should work when the front cone fairing is braked, the internal conductive cone this piezoelectric element is inserted like a firing pin capsule.

                        And the characteristic holes in the sheet behind the bars confirm that the pest is just forming.

                        But from the breakdown of armor in light armored vehicles, the grille can just help. Due to the lack of direct contact of explosives with armor, there is no brisant effect. Here, even 20-30 centimeters will greatly help, even though the pestle will pierce the APC through and through, there are more chances to survive inside.
            2. 75 Sergey
              75 Sergey 12 May 2020 22: 35 New
              +1
              And 1, is it 100%? then not bad.
          2. Cowbra
            Cowbra 12 May 2020 21: 37 New
            +3
            No, he said it right, cut a funnel - what a stream ...
            1. novel66
              novel66 12 May 2020 21: 50 New
              +4
              just at the wrong distance from the armor will form - and tryndets cumulative effect
  5. tanki-tanki
    tanki-tanki 12 May 2020 20: 42 New
    0
    Armor more needs to be done.
    1. novel66
      novel66 12 May 2020 21: 51 New
      +2
      will be heavy .. like a tank
    2. Torak
      Torak 12 May 2020 22: 25 New
      -2
      In-in! Until the second MAUS tank comes out, then the tires will need to be replaced with steel wheels like a paver.
  6. Zementbomber
    Zementbomber 13 May 2020 11: 20 New
    0
    Against the old RPG-7, they give some protection, but due to the fact that the thickness of the armor itself is not more than 20 mm, the cumulative stream will still pierce it.

    There are only 11 mm in fact. And the board - and in general 9 mm.
  • Torak
    Torak 12 May 2020 21: 42 New
    -2
    Naturally! Efficiency is zero. But then there are a lot of problems.
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 12 May 2020 19: 48 New
    +5
    Everything is fine, only the metal grate needs to be changed to a grid, but to this one -



    It is lighter and more efficient.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 12 May 2020 20: 12 New
      0
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      more effective.

      ?
      I do not think that here we can talk about greater efficiency.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 12 May 2020 20: 15 New
        +3
        Well then. Bounces and flies back to the enemy.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 12 May 2020 20: 17 New
          +2
          Apparently, it still destroys. Not for nothing, the developers won the award from the hands of the British Queen.
          However, it is hardly more effective than "knife" screens.
          Much easier, however, much more expensive.
          At about the same efficiency.
        2. Torak
          Torak 12 May 2020 22: 27 New
          -2
          Where, Directly in the forehead?
      2. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 12 May 2020 21: 15 New
        +1
        And you don’t think, but study the experience of using such a mesh by the US Army in Iraq.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 12 May 2020 21: 19 New
          +2
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          And you do not think, but learn the experience

          Let's "experience", I will study.
          In particular, I'm interested in probabilities
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 12 May 2020 21: 47 New
            -2
            Search the net, do a little effort yourself to find information.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 12 May 2020 21: 53 New
              +2
              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              Search the net, do a little effort yourself to find information.

              I was looking for.
              Not even on the manufacturer’s website.
              https://qinetiq-na.com/products/militaryprotection/qnet/

              So how? Will there be an "experience" to explore?
              1. novel66
                novel66 12 May 2020 21: 58 New
                +3
                an experience?? at the cost of several bronikov ??? hardly..
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 12 May 2020 22: 02 New
                  0
                  Conversation of lightweight protection with Kevlar mesh and metal "knots"
                  I don’t think so. that with approximately the same geometry, it will be more effective than metal RE
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 12 May 2020 22: 07 New
                    +3
                    no, of course, why
          2. novel66
            novel66 12 May 2020 21: 52 New
            +4
            the farther the jet forms from the armor, the less likely
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 12 May 2020 21: 56 New
              -1
              Quote: novel xnumx
              the farther the jet forms from the armor, the less likely

              ??
              I'm afraid this option will not work here. laughing
              1. novel66
                novel66 12 May 2020 21: 57 New
                +2
                nothing for the tandem warhead
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 12 May 2020 22: 00 New
                  0
                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  nothing for the tandem warhead

                  There is a possibility that the axis of the main charge deviates before operation
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 12 May 2020 22: 01 New
                    +3
                    Well, a little deviate - with that thickness of armor ..... only worse
            2. Torak
              Torak 12 May 2020 22: 28 New
              -2
              The probability of what?
              1. novel66
                novel66 12 May 2020 22: 35 New
                +3
                second coming ... request
                1. Cheerock
                  Cheerock 12 May 2020 23: 35 New
                  0
                  Hmm ... This is already surr ... No.
  • knn54
    knn54 12 May 2020 19: 49 New
    0
    Second birth.
    1. Torak
      Torak 12 May 2020 21: 49 New
      -2
      Rather, a miscarriage.
  • alone
    alone 12 May 2020 20: 19 New
    0
    Very rational .. This is to use the maximum of what is available, as well as the support of local enterprises ... People work ..
  • ABM
    ABM 12 May 2020 20: 38 New
    0
    The other day, at the victory parade in Minsk, I saw one beauty, all in medals, and one of them is very remarkable: "100 years of the Armed Forces of Belarus" - I was surprised, I climbed to study history, as it turned out, there were 11 thousand of these "armed men" under the leadership of Polish officers. Of course, they immediately fled, but Belarus considers the date of creation of its Armed Forces to be the date of creation of these gangs, and not 1992 !!! Got upset
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 12 May 2020 20: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: ABM
      “100 years of the Armed Forces of Belarus” - I was surprised, I went to study history, as it turned out, there were 11 thousand of these “armed forces” under the leadership of Polish officers. Of course, they immediately fled, but Belarus considers the date of creation of its Armed Forces to be the date of creation of these gangs, and not 1992 !!! Got upset

      "In 2018, the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus will celebrate their 100th anniversary.
      The modern Belarusian army counts its history from the Minsk Military District, formed on November 28, 1918, which in turn was renamed the Western Military District on December 12, 1918, and on October 2, 1926 became the Belarusian Military District.
      "
      From the site of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus
      https://www.mil.by/ru/all_about/doprizyv/100letVSRB/
      laughing
      1. Torak
        Torak 12 May 2020 21: 51 New
        -8
        AND? What relation do the Belarussian armed forces have to the Soviet Army?
      2. ABM
        ABM 12 May 2020 23: 28 New
        0
        The Minsk district was formed in 1914, in 1918 it began to be called Western. Has no relation to the Republic of Belarus
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 13 May 2020 08: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: ABM
          The Minsk district was formed in 1914, in 1918 it began to be called Western. Has no relation to the Republic of Belarus

          I gave you a text from the official website of the Belarusian Ministry of Defense
          Your statements are not confirmed.
          1. ABM
            ABM 13 May 2020 10: 32 New
            -2
            Lukashenko’s decree of September 28, 2017, i.e. Belarusian aircraft are six months older than the Red Army.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 13 May 2020 11: 12 New
              +1
              Quote: ABM
              Lukashenko’s decree of September 28, 2017, i.e. Belarusian aircraft are six months older than the Red Army.

              laughing
              Logically ....
              Lukashenko signed a decree "on the establishment of an anniversary medal" on September 28, 2017, which means "the Belarusian Armed Forces are older than the Red Army"
              laughing laughing laughing
            2. svp67
              svp67 19 May 2020 14: 37 New
              0
              Quote: ABM
              Lukashenko’s Decree of September 28, 2017,

              Have you read it? There is such a thing ...
              APPROVED
              Decree of the President of the Republic of Belarus

              28.09.2017 No. 356
              Description of the jubilee medal “100th anniversary of the U.S. Ulbroenym Silam Republic of Belarus”
              The jubilee medal “100th Anniversary of Uzbroenym Silam Republic of Belarus” (hereinafter - the jubilee medal) is made of silver-colored metal and has the shape of a circle with a diameter of 33 mm.
              On the front side of the anniversary medal there is an image of a heraldic badge - the emblem of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus. Above the emblem in a circle there is the inscription “SERTSAM ADDANIA NODYNY ZAMLI”, below on a wavy curved golden ribbon -

              the inscription "1918–2018"

              in one line.
              On the reverse side of the anniversary medal around the circle is a silver laurel half-wreath with a curved ribbon at the base, which at the top goes into the inscription "REPUBLIC OF BELARUS". Under the inscription is a star of the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army in silver rays, below is an inscription in three lines
              "DISPOSED SILAM 100 YEAR."

              1. ABM
                ABM 19 May 2020 15: 11 New
                0
                Ours then correctly renamed "100 years of the creation of the Red Army" in "100 years of the creation of the Red Army and the armed forces of Belarus"
                1. svp67
                  svp67 19 May 2020 15: 32 New
                  0
                  Quote: ABM
                  Ours then correctly renamed "100 years of the creation of the Red Army" in "100 years of the creation of the Red Army and the armed forces of Belarus"

                  Then, too, the "Ukrainian Red Army (It was formed on the basis of the Decree of the Provisional Workers 'and Peasants' Government of Soviet Ukraine dated November 30, 1918.)", and the "Latvian Army Group of Forces" Created by the Directive of the Commander-in-Chief No. 436 / sh dated December 8, 1918. as part of the Western Army.),
    2. Hermann
      Hermann 12 May 2020 20: 59 New
      +4
      Do not carry nonsense, it is considered 100 years since the formation of the Red Army, February 23, 2018 was celebrated.
      1. ABM
        ABM 13 May 2020 10: 30 New
        -2
        From September 28, 2017, the decree of Lukashenko. Six months before the creation of the Red Army
        1. Hermann
          Hermann 13 May 2020 15: 24 New
          +1
          Lukashenko’s order of September 28 to issue a jubilee medal, that's why for half a year, the medal must be issued for the anniversary.

  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 12 May 2020 20: 59 New
    +4
    Lattices rather for complacency.
  • Torak
    Torak 12 May 2020 21: 21 New
    -4
    The parade is organized with dignity, especially given the limited means and capabilities. The columns march almost perfectly, in any case even better than on Red Square.
    But in the scientific and technical sphere, a primitive, hairy collective farm is felt. When I saw the BTR-70, 80 sheathed in bars, as the anti-cumulative defense said, I rolled down under the table! What kind of collective farmers are considered advisers, developers of such a miracle? The lattice by itself does not help at all in the event of a cumulative shot! The breakdown force of a liquid jet is still enough to break through the armor despite the earlier operation of the ammunition and the formation of an not ideal jet shape. It is more than enough even for the armor of a tank! The grill reduces the effect of the jet only in 2 cases: 1) When removed from the armor at a distance of 1800 mm (it seems 2-3 times) - but technically this is essentially unpromising for a number of reasons. 2) When the grid goes as the first element of the combination screen, i.e. behind it is another additional armor plate handed down at a distance from the main one. But this in this case is not at all, from the word in general! As a result, this constructed corral only significantly complicates and reduces the maneuverability of the armored personnel carrier, makes landing in full combat an extremely difficult and long task, and the reverse process is even more difficult. In general, hanging something on an armored personnel carrier is either pointless and therefore not necessary!
    When, however, he began to crawl out from under the table and the announcer said that he managed to develop the Dragon and Athlete cars with the Chinese and when he saw this Athlete, he fell under the table again!
    One word - Hairy Collective Farm! I hope you should not rely on the boys in case of an invasion from the West.
    1. awdrgy
      awdrgy 12 May 2020 21: 44 New
      +1
      The guys there are what you need to hope for. Our Slavs and professionals are in their field. There will be no intrusion (especially through Belarus). It was necessary to invade the West yesterday Today and tomorrow, too late And it pleases
      1. Torak
        Torak 13 May 2020 10: 09 New
        0
        You are mistaken. According to the plans of the West, the following were planned. First, a terrorist army of 2 million bayonets is formed on the territory of Syria and invades our Caucasus. Moreover, the invasion is akin to partisan-through a myriad of small mobile gangs with which in principle it is not clear how to fight a regular army. In parallel with this, the 5th column raises a cascade of uprisings throughout the country. At the same time, the mass stratum of traitors in power is trying to disorganize society and the Armed Forces. At the same time, under any pretext, NATO makes a massive missile attack on key objects and cities, after which only physical cleaning by the enemy’s regular troops, which are already concentrated at the western borders, surviving centers of resistance, will go.
        By the way, if anything, the question is what are we doing in Syria.
        1. Zementbomber
          Zementbomber 13 May 2020 11: 29 New
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          First, a terrorist army of 2 million bayonets is formed in Syria

          ЕПРСТ - What a ridiculous delirium! Even before the Civil War - in the SAR there were no more than 2.7 million people fit for military service.
          1. Torak
            Torak 13 May 2020 12: 10 New
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            Bullshit, this is what you write. And it begins with the words that there is a civil war in the SAR.
            1. Zementbomber
              Zementbomber 13 May 2020 12: 51 New
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              I advise you again (although I understand that this will not lead to anything smile ) - Teach Materiel!
        2. awdrgy
          awdrgy 13 May 2020 12: 32 New
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          Yes, these are all outdated plans of 10-12 years ago, or even more T e "yesterday"
        3. awdrgy
          awdrgy 13 May 2020 12: 42 New
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          They have now corrected and "extended the process" so to speak. And for us in Russia, both "donkey" and "padishah" are generally not bad
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 12 May 2020 21: 55 New
    +2
    It’s a good tradition to roll out equipment adopted by the armed forces for parades, rather than prototypes.
  • Graz
    Graz 12 May 2020 22: 12 New
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    Well, 50% that the grill will work, even less percent that it will work so that no one will suffer inside the machine. I don’t remember, like reading about the effectiveness of spaced armor, that is, after the lattice at a certain distance there is a sheet of armor, and already from it at a certain distance is the main armor
    1. Torak
      Torak 12 May 2020 22: 38 New
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      The lattice itself never works, from a word in general. 0% So about 50% these are erotic fantasies. The combined armor you write about is very effective. But the crew in the APC, unlike the tank, help a little. Just with combined armor, we can only talk about 50-60% efficiency for armored personnel carriers.
  • Alexey G
    Alexey G 13 May 2020 01: 53 New
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    Lattice like tanks are good! On our side, on Armata, they stand closer to the stern! Of course, a jet stream is formed, but it only fires prematurely before reaching the armor and loses some of its power in the air, so it does not have enough strength to break through tank armor! It’s like a lady splashing on a vagina without inserting it inside. There will be no flying! But the armored personnel carrier can be pierced from a heavy machine gun and not just from an RPG, so the lattice is for the psychological defense of the crew before the first battle! laughing
    1. Torak
      Torak 13 May 2020 09: 52 New
      -1
      Kindergarten .... second quarter ..
  • eskulap
    eskulap 13 May 2020 02: 23 New
    +2
    life is theater and clowns in power - dibilism with masks, dibilism with bars ..
    1. Torak
      Torak 13 May 2020 09: 53 New
      0
      +10000! There’s nothing to add.
  • Pavlik K.
    Pavlik K. 13 May 2020 10: 52 New
    +3
    parade of fences ...
  • Alexey G
    Alexey G 13 May 2020 13: 42 New
    +1
    Armored personnel carrier in the grills like a worm in a corset! laughing
  • Alexey G
    Alexey G 13 May 2020 13: 51 New
    +1
    I don’t know what the cons are for me, but the question is, how will the landing on the side through the gratings be thrown out ??? laughing
    Lukashenko put them in jail, so as not to run away when hit by an RPG ??? laughing Joke!!!
  • Captan78
    Captan78 13 May 2020 23: 18 New
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    Well, what was in storage from that and redone, in any case, not from a good life