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Virus of the political system: where Russian parties "disappeared"

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In recent months, the country's political parties have almost disappeared from the Russian information space. They are practically not mentioned about them, their leaders are not quoted, and the population remembers their existence less and less.


Pandemic and the media crisis of Russian parties


In fact, the attention to parliamentary and non-parliamentary political parties and organizations from both the population and the media is directly proportional to their real impact on society and participation in political decision-making. Just these figures among Russian parties were declining every year. The built-up system with one “party in power” and several parties of the “parliamentary opposition” has made itself felt: the population has become disillusioned with the existing political organizations, but new, really efficient ones have not emerged in recent years.

In fact, if you do not take into account "United Russia", the modern Russian party system is a continuation of the one that prevailed in Yeltsin Russia. Over the past twenty years, not a single new political force has appeared in the country that could really express itself, go to parliament, compete not even with the party in power, but with the “eternal" Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party.

The ongoing fight against the coronavirus pandemic further widened the media gap between political parties and executive bodies. Decision-making on counteracting the spread of coronavirus, on anti-crisis measures, and assistance to the population is entirely the responsibility of the executive authorities of the federal and regional levels. Therefore, almost all the attention of the media focused on the president, government, and regional leaders.

But parties already have no room for maneuver: they cannot do more than the executive branch to fight the coronavirus, and denying the need for sanitary measures is stupid and even fraught with problems. Another thing is that not one of the Russian political parties has voiced an original and feasible program to lead the country out of the economic and social crisis caused by the pandemic. This means either that the parties have nothing to offer because of the lack of analytical work, or that the parties have no reason to offer anything, since the imperious majority will nevertheless act as it sees fit and will not consult with smaller political parties.

The decrease in the information activity of Russian parties is also due to the fact that the country's political field has long been divided. Everyone understands that United Russia remains the party in power, and it will remain so. As for the SR, LDPR, the Communist Party and less significant parties, their electorates have also been formed for a long time and it is unlikely that any large-scale changes will be expected in this regard.



The parties didn’t take their last chance?


The political system created in Russia is confidently opposed to the emergence of new parties and movements that could represent at least some kind of independence. Neither the alternative Communist Party of the Left, nor the nationalists (in the patriotic sense of the word), nor the notorious “bulk players” are not allowed into the State Duma. Some elements of activity can be observed at the regional and municipal levels, but everything is connected there rather than with parties, but with specific politicians who enjoy respect and fame in their regions, try to do something and play their part in strengthening the positions of their parties or movements.

Interestingly, the period of the economic crisis and the associated deterioration in the social well-being of citizens is a great chance for the opposition (not a bunch of balabol, but a real active opposition, ready to work precisely for the good of the country) to gain points. But the Russian parties are not taking any serious action in this direction.

“One-time” actions like attempts to hold May Day demonstrations in a number of regions did not count, and not a single political party presented any systemic agenda. Moreover, the same Communist Party rallies on May 1 and May 9 in a number of regions of the country looked rather strange, given that for the sake of street pickets and rallies the Communists violated the declared self-isolation regime, which led, for example, to Rostov-on-Don to draw up more than 40 protocols for the participants of the May Day rally. Such actions do not look serious, especially against the background of general social tension in the country.

Of course, to say that the pandemic was the beginning of the end of the "old" Russian political parties is not worth it, because their influence and activity are largely supported artificially and do not reflect the real situation in society. But it is difficult to disagree with the fact that the former political parties are indeed becoming obsolete and the political future of Russian society will be associated with the emergence of new political forces, and possibly with new ideologies and organizational models. I would like these models to work for the development of Russia, to improve the well-being of the people, to increase the level of social responsibility of the authorities themselves.
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  1. tanki-tanki
    tanki-tanki 12 May 2020 18: 27 New
    0
    Thank you for the article.
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 12 May 2020 18: 38 New
      41
      Today parties, in my opinion, have turned into circles of financial interests, and the very concept of "party" is absolutely discredited.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 12 May 2020 18: 42 New
        21
        Virus of the political system: where Russian parties "disappeared"

        It is known where: they are all on self-isolation. yes Interestingly, these parties do not need to spend money on buying masks - they are always in them.
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 12 May 2020 18: 59 New
          +4
          Not in them, but on them.
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 12 May 2020 18: 59 New
            +3
            Not medical.
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 12 May 2020 19: 06 New
              +5
              Quote: Doccor18
              Not in them, but on them.

              Even so, though, but the result is one: the mask peels off them when they are stroked against the coat.
        2. Private89
          Private89 17 May 2020 09: 14 New
          +1
          All these parties are a game of thimbles with the public. All these parties do not represent the interests of the people.
      2. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 12 May 2020 18: 46 New
        +1
        Where did the parties disappear?

        They remembered that there can only be one party. And we must adhere to the general line of the party and its Leader (((
        1. 210ox
          210ox 12 May 2020 19: 23 New
          0
          But interesting. What are these "other ideologies"?
      3. Valery Valery
        Valery Valery 12 May 2020 18: 51 New
        14
        In my opinion, an institution called a PARTY must meet one of three requirements:
        - a well-developed theory, if you want ideology, at the level of philosophy
        - protection of the interests of any of the classes or sections of society
        - party leaders attracting attention with extravagant antics of action.

        On the first two points we have a complete zero. And there is Zhirinovsky and his LDPR.

        Sad .....
        1. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 12 May 2020 19: 27 New
          10
          As for the second paragraph, Edra has complete order with him. They defend the interests of a particular layer quite consistently.
          Ideology is also there - anti-Soviet.
          Well, their informal leader, our Guarantor, was noted for various extravagant antics, from flying with Siberian Cranes to underwater archeology. Aug, how he looks on a horse! fellow
    2. smart ass
      smart ass 12 May 2020 19: 03 New
      21
      Here is the answer to the question "who if not Putin?" if the parties are strangled in the bud, where does the alternative leader come from?
      1. nikon7717
        nikon7717 13 May 2020 19: 55 New
        0
        Recall the history of any party that came to power. At some point in history, it becomes profitable in the struggle of various interests in the country, internal and external. He receives support, finance, media, up to the military. Redistribution occurs. When were there cases of idealistic parties coming to power with one support from the people?
  2. Cowbra
    Cowbra 12 May 2020 18: 28 New
    -7
    The crisis just showed that all these "political parties" are trite useless. Throat to tear in the squares, criticizing the "bad government" unfounded - they can do that. But in a situation when specific measures are needed - let it be PROPOSALS of specific measures - they have nothing to say simply. Generally. Hello to all local libertines, which I have said all this many times)))
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 12 May 2020 18: 52 New
      -2
      Right.
      the emergence of new parties and movements that could represent at least some kind of independence.
      What kind of independence? Platoshkin and Prilepin - for everything good against everything bad. There are no economic programs, except for all the rent from the national wealth, one "down with" policy.
    2. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 18: 56 New
      12
      Quote: Cowbra
      The crisis just showed that all these "political parties" are trite useless. Throat to tear in the squares, criticizing the "bad government" unfounded - they can do that. But in a situation when specific measures are needed - let it be PROPOSALS of specific measures - they have nothing to say simply. Generally. Hello to all local libertines, which I have said all this many times)))

      https://newdaynews.ru/moscow/691710.html

      read - the communists offered to give out masks to the people for FREE - and the United Russia responded that the people were snickering wassat
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 12 May 2020 19: 06 New
        -8
        Quote: Corona without virus
        read - the communists offered to give out masks to the people for FREE

        Well, let them buy it with party funds and hand out request
        1. Virus-free crown
          Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 19: 07 New
          14
          Quote: Ruslan67
          Quote: Corona without virus
          read - the communists offered to give out masks to the people for FREE

          Well, let them buy it with party funds and hand out request

          First read the article - and then expose yourself to the general place hi
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 12 May 2020 19: 13 New
            -2
            Quote: Corona without virus
            First read the article -

            Already....
            1. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 19: 21 New
              +6
              Quote: Ruslan67
              Quote: Corona without virus
              First read the article -

              Already....

              Then tell readers what the Communists proposed to do for the people, and how the Edrovites responded drinks
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 12 May 2020 19: 25 New
                -8
                Quote: Corona without virus
                tell readers what the Communists proposed to do

                Key-Offered drinks
                1. Virus-free crown
                  Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 19: 41 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  Quote: Corona without virus
                  tell readers what the Communists proposed to do

                  Key-Offered drinks

                  Well then, I’ll retell it myself)) The Communists suggested that since the authorities obliged people to wear masks under the threat of repression, then they would give out these masks to the people for FREE !!! drinks
                  To which the edrovtsy replied that the people "do not peck money" and let this people buy masks at their own expense am
                  1. Azis
                    Azis 12 May 2020 20: 10 New
                    +3
                    The Communist Party can buy masks for their party funds (party bonuses will live a little more modestly) and give them out for free, even with their own symbols and only upon presentation of a party / Komsomol ticket. This is the real work of the party, not populist blah blah ...
                    1. Virus-free crown
                      Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 20: 21 New
                      +8
                      Quote: Azis
                      The Communist Party can buy masks for their party funds (party bonuses will live a little more modestly) and give them out for free, even with their own symbols and only upon presentation of a party / Komsomol ticket. This is the real work of the party, not populist blah blah ...

                      NOT knowledge of the laws of the Russian Federation does not exempt your Curator from liability repeat
                      You would be there "drowning" everything on VO against your own people - demand from your own that they would arrange an educational program for you - at least they told you about the Constitution of the Russian Federation - what it is and what it is eaten with bully
                      1. Azis
                        Azis 12 May 2020 20: 48 New
                        +7
                        I agree that the ruling EdRo does not take responsibility. The Communist Party, at least within the framework of the political struggle (if there is one at all), at the expense of the budget of the PARTY, instead of badges / flags / balls / stickers / leaflets, could at least give out masks. What does the Constitution have to do with it?
                      2. Virus-free crown
                        Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 20: 58 New
                        0
                        Quote: Azis
                        I agree that the ruling EdRo does not take responsibility. The Communist Party, at least within the framework of the political struggle (if there is one at all), at the expense of the budget of the PARTY, instead of badges / flags / balls / stickers / leaflets, could at least give out masks. What does the Constitution have to do with it?

                        I’ll tell you a terrible secret - the communists have the right to legislative initiative repeat only - shhh !!! don't tell anyone about it stop
                        They were chosen by the people in parliament - and they are trying to PROTECT him - albeit askew and crooked - but they TRY hi and edro does not hit finger ...
                      3. sniperino
                        sniperino 13 May 2020 23: 22 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        They were chosen by the people in parliament - and they are trying to PROTECT him - albeit askew and crooked
                        And illiterate, which is sadder and most dangerous.
                      4. Virus-free crown
                        Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 23: 25 New
                        -1
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        They were chosen by the people in parliament - and they are trying to PROTECT him - albeit askew and crooked
                        And illiterate, which is sadder and most dangerous.

                        Do you know a story about two frogs that got into a hiding place with milk? ;)
                        briefly recall - one immediately surrendered and drowned, and the second floundered, whipped butter - and jumped out;)
                      5. sniperino
                        sniperino 13 May 2020 23: 40 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        Do you know a story about two frogs that got into a hiding place with milk?
                        No. Parliament ..., tale ..., hiding place ... Euro-Belarusian social real-time strategy?
                      6. Virus-free crown
                        Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 23: 45 New
                        -1
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Quote: Corona without virus
                        Do you know a story about two frogs that got into a hiding place with milk?
                        No. Parliament ..., tale ..., hiding place ... Euro-Belarusian social real-time strategy?

                        Shame on my gray head))) my parents told me this tale in childhood - what do you teach your children then? ;)

                        here is a link to a fairy tale: https://nukadeti.ru/skazki/dve-lyagushki
                2. Azis
                  Azis 14 May 2020 21: 44 New
                  0
                  EdRo has long turned its back on the people. I'm talking about the distribution of masks by forces and means of the Communist Party. This would be the Promotion, not the chatter. At least such:
                  It is advisable to have more to see people with such symbols, and then the reaction of the same edra
              2. sniperino
                sniperino 13 May 2020 23: 04 New
                +1
                Quote: Azis
                The Communist Party, at least in the framework of the political struggle (if there is one at all), at the expense of the budget of the PARTY, instead of badges / flags / balls / stickers / leaflets, could at least give out masks.
                You, comrade Azis, suffer from political myopia if you propose such untimely and even archival actions! Today the political slogan of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation: "The worse, the better! Masks from the bourgeoisie will be torn off!" Hurray, comrades !!!fellow
            2. Serg65
              Serg65 13 May 2020 09: 46 New
              0
              Quote: Corona without virus
              You would "drown" everything there on VO against your own people

              Communist Party is the whole people of Russia ??? good
          2. AUL
            AUL 13 May 2020 08: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: Azis
            The Communist Party of the Russian Federation can buy masks on their party funds (party bonuses will live a bit more modestly) and give them out for free,

            And edro can't? They have not gathered there poverty. And still, "leading and guiding" could do something really for the good of people!
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 13 May 2020 09: 53 New
              -6
              Quote: AUL
              could really do something for the benefit of people!

              Unlike the demagogues-communists do, the volunteer movement of the EP is gaining momentum! And you, dear comrades, such a most convenient moment was simply delayed ... missed, having hit as usual in banal demagogy and poor PR!
            2. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 13: 06 New
              -1
              Quote: Serg65
              Quote: AUL
              could really do something for the benefit of people!

              Unlike the demagogues-communists do, the volunteer movement of the EP is gaining momentum! And you, dear comrades, such a most convenient moment was simply delayed ... missed, having hit as usual in banal demagogy and poor PR!

              Why are you talking ?! seriously, at that moment, when until June 1, the Authority forbade me to work and support my family, as a man who is simply obliged to support his family, even though he finger smacked my finger to help ?! belay
            3. Serg65
              Serg65 13 May 2020 13: 18 New
              -2
              Have you asked for this help? Or are you simply obligated on a silver platter?
            4. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 14: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: Serg65
              Have you asked for this help? Or are you simply obligated on a silver platter?

              According to the law on emergency situations - MANDATORY !!! I know my rights am

              Well, and so on that garbage that was adopted instead of laws - I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING !!! not allowed - these "laws" I know the same
            5. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 13 May 2020 22: 25 New
              0
              Under the law on emergencies, you’ll be locked up at home, and macrosters from the military will be delivered at best.
              And compensate for direct damage, not loss of profits.
            6. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 22: 27 New
              +1
              Quote: Herman 4223
              Under the law on emergencies, you’ll be locked up at home, and macrosters from the military will be delivered at best.
              And compensate for direct damage, not loss of profits.

              I AGREE!!!! fellow
              They locked me at home crying but they didn’t deliver the macaroni wassat
            7. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 13 May 2020 22: 30 New
              0
              But because no one announced the emergency. There is a presidential decree on non-working days. Your weekend just lasted.
            8. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 22: 33 New
              -1
              Quote: Herman 4223
              But because no one announced the emergency. There is a presidential decree on non-working days. Your weekend just lasted.

              You know the Occam Razor principle:
              The Okkama shaver (sometimes the Okkama blade) is a methodological principle that summarizes as follows: “One should not multiply existing things without necessity” (or “One should not attract new entities without emergency”).

              If there is a Law on Emergency Situations - why come up with some strange decrees - after all, you just need to comply with the Law of the Russian Federation !!!
            9. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 13 May 2020 22: 55 New
              +2
              So not everything is as simple as we think.
              In my city, the shopping centers were covered, and so everyone walks freely and even works.
            10. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 22: 57 New
              -2
              Quote: Herman 4223
              So not everything is as simple as we think.
              In my city, the shopping centers were covered, and so everyone walks freely and even works.

              And in the suburbs, not only did they prolong the non-quarantine for a week, and in the best case I will go to work on June 1 - they MUST be masked around the house - and we have the cheapest mask 50 rubles apiece ... there’s nothing to eat - and you don’t put on a mask - 4000 r fine
            11. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 13 May 2020 23: 06 New
              +1
              Well, the presidential decree says that the weekend is wage saving. If you are officially arranged then this is a mess of course.
            12. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 23: 08 New
              +1
              I work officially - but in the piecework - everything that I earned - minus interest to the employer and taxes - all mine !!! drinks I work on shopping mall !!! we have such laws !!! and DO NOT earn ...
            13. Herman 4223
              Herman 4223 13 May 2020 23: 15 New
              -1
              Nus let's hope that everything is fine with you. And unfortunately the weekend in the country will drag on for a long time. The virus will not disappear in a month or even six months, it is necessary to hold on.
  3. Aag
    Aag 14 May 2020 19: 30 New
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: AUL
    could really do something for the benefit of people!

    Unlike the demagogues-communists do, the volunteer movement of the EP is gaining momentum! And you, dear comrades, such a most convenient moment was simply delayed ... missed, having hit as usual in banal demagogy and poor PR!

    PR? When the citizens themselves collected, they brought help to the victims of the flood (Tulun, Irk. Obl.) Volunteers spanked the symbolism of EP.
    From the water, but into the fire: don’t you remember the frames of the central TV channels from putting out fires in the same area? Let me remind you: volunteers in snow-white T-shirts with the EP logo meet the President at the site of an extinguished fire. Words of gratitude, scrapie, etc. .... A the real people who fought with fire, the guard pushed the remaining one into the forest, so that they would not spoil the frame with their indecent appearance.
    In general, where does the EP party get its funds from? I suspect that it’s not from membership dues, but from citizens ’taxes, regardless of membership, or not belonging to one or another party. Does anyone else remember who their chairman is? And where is he?
  4. Nikolai Grek
    Nikolai Grek 14 May 2020 21: 00 New
    +4
    Quote: AAG
    Tulun city, Irk.

    what this is where the praised communist then taxied ??? !!! recourse wassat
  5. Aag
    Aag 15 May 2020 06: 22 New
    -1
    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    Quote: AAG
    Tulun city, Irk.

    what this is where the praised communist then taxied ??? !!! recourse wassat

    I am here neither for the Communists, nor for United Russia, but against fraud, cheap PR.
  • Serg65
    Serg65 13 May 2020 09: 28 New
    -2
    Quote: Corona without virus
    edrovtsy answered that the people "do not peck money"

    Throw a link to this answer?
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 13: 07 New
      -1
      Quote: Serg65
      Quote: Corona without virus
      edrovtsy answered that the people "do not peck money"

      Throw a link to this answer?

      In the previous topic cited the link 2 times
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 13 May 2020 13: 18 New
        -1
        Quote: Corona without virus
        In the previous topic cited the link 2 times

        Well, thanks for that laughing
      2. Virus-free crown
        Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 14: 37 New
        -1
        Quote: Serg65
        Quote: Corona without virus
        In the previous topic cited the link 2 times

        Well, thanks for that laughing

        always please)))
  • Serg65
    Serg65 13 May 2020 09: 17 New
    0
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Then tell readers what the Communists proposed to do for the people,

    Go to the circus tent at his own expense laughing
  • Serg65
    Serg65 13 May 2020 09: 16 New
    +1
    Quote: Corona without virus
    Read the article first

    Those. still its own penny closer to the body? laughing
  • Revival
    Revival 12 May 2020 22: 02 New
    -2
    Well, then, in this case, it’s necessary to change the ones acting on them, since these are not capable, and the party will be able to
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 12 May 2020 19: 42 New
    -8
    Quote: Corona without virus
    read - the communists offered to give out masks to the people for FREE

    Read. Where to get the masks - not gu-gu. There are no concrete suggestions on where to get them, at the same time, NOW the masks have to be worn by all civil servants who have never worn them, for example, health workers at all health centers or cops - and now the government is giving them out.
    We see a generous go-ahead - let's take masks out of thin air and everyone will go to the apartments to distribute! They were told - go ahead. Get the masks out of thin air, pay the manufacturers yourself - and carry them around your apartments. The communists said - "Oh, I think I forgot to turn off the iron"
    Just as I said - at the time when SPECIFIC proposals are needed - they are not. You gave an example confirming this laughing
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 19: 46 New
      +6
      Quote: Cowbra
      Quote: Corona without virus
      read - the communists offered to give out masks to the people for FREE

      Read. Where to get the masks - not gu-gu. There are no concrete suggestions on where to get them, at the same time, NOW the masks have to be worn by all civil servants who have never worn them, for example, health workers at all health centers or cops - and now the government is giving them out.
      We see a generous go-ahead - let's take masks out of thin air and everyone will go to the apartments to distribute! They were told - go ahead. Get the masks out of thin air, pay the manufacturers yourself - and carry them around your apartments. The communists said - "Oh, I think I forgot to turn off the iron"
      Just as I said - at the time when SPECIFIC proposals are needed - they are not. You gave an example confirming this laughing

      Have you heard with the edge of your ear that there is a Stabilization Fund in Russia, where money was deposited "for a black day" for just such cases as now? )) they hung noodles on our ears and "tore the vest on our chest", that as soon as the "northern fur animal" comes to Russia, they will immediately print the egg capsule and we will be happy)))

      the animal came, didn't it? ;) where is "happiness" then ??? am
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 12 May 2020 20: 03 New
        -10
        You heard from the corner of your ear that the MASKS were not added to the Stabilization Fund, and their consumption increased not by an order of magnitude or even by two? Masks to take - where? The state has them. For civil servants. The rest receive help - and decide that it is easier for them - to buy, sew, sit at home. But the Stabilization Fund is not needed for that. to give out masks. but for that. to overcome the crisis now. Masks will not help start a stopped industry - only the stabilization fund.
        So, again, there are no specific proposals. By the way, the article did not mention the Stabilization Fund, because that is exactly what the populists would have answered. The proposal was - "just take the masks and distribute." Dot. That is, SPECIFIC sentences, as I repeated twice, I will repeat to you in the third - N-E-T.
        1. Virus-free crown
          Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 20: 06 New
          0
          Quote: Cowbra
          You heard from the corner of your ear that the MASKS were not added to the Stabilization Fund, and their consumption increased not by an order of magnitude or even by two? Masks to take - where? The state has them. For civil servants. The rest receive help - and decide that it is easier for them - to buy, sew, sit at home. But the Stabilization Fund is not needed for that. to give out masks. but for that. to overcome the crisis now. Masks will not help start a stopped industry - only the stabilization fund.
          So, again, there are no specific proposals. By the way, the article did not mention the Stabilization Fund, because that is exactly what the populists would have answered. The proposal was - "just take the masks and distribute." Dot. That is, SPECIFIC sentences, as I repeated twice, I will repeat to you in the third - N-E-T.

          the last time I answer you - if you DO NOT understand - then this will be your problem)))
          the people of the PPC with money - there is no money for masks - the Communists proposed to distribute masks to the PEOPLE for free at the expense of the state !!! )) if you DO NOT understand it, then I am sorry for you crying
          1. nickname7
            nickname7 13 May 2020 04: 04 New
            0
            . masks - the Communists proposed to distribute masks to the PEOPLE at the expense of the state

            And who will give you the masks, the Martians will bring chtoli? There are physically no masks in the Russian Federation at all, so they cannot be handed out.
            There was an article about China, so there for a couple of weeks engineers developed an automatic line, production of masks and started selling factories for masks, Chinese businessmen bought factories and produce these masks in tons, this is the fundamental difference between a commodity and an industrial country.
            1. Virus-free crown
              Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 13: 09 New
              0
              Quote: nickname7
              . masks - the Communists proposed to distribute masks to the PEOPLE at the expense of the state

              And who will give you the masks, the Martians will bring chtoli? There are physically no masks in the Russian Federation at all, so they cannot be handed out.
              There was an article about China, so there for a couple of weeks engineers developed an automatic line, production of masks and started selling factories for masks, Chinese businessmen bought factories and produce these masks in tons, this is the fundamental difference between a commodity and an industrial country.

              maybe you don’t know, but now at every corner you can buy a mask from 30 r / pc
      2. fiberboard
        fiberboard 12 May 2020 20: 15 New
        +3
        No, I haven’t come yet. We are still holding on.
      3. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 12 May 2020 22: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Corona without virus
        did the animal come after all?

        let the animal not come! there is a very effective means of combating any virus is immunoglobulins ... perhaps it is time to re-invent them. laughing They are obtained from the blood of sick people and animals. 1 ml of blood plasma contains enough antibodies to cure the patient. The cheapest and fastest is heterogeneous serum, when pigs are immunized, for example, and globulins get sweat from their blood. One biofactory is able to provide hyperimmune serum to the whole world!
        What we are seeing now is a beast coming to the US hegemony, which is strong enough to put the whole world on the ears, for now. Now, to the noise about Baranovirus, you can close borders, develop production, raise your own rating by releasing serum quickly! But no! we blow our trumpets in unison to the world's bankers and kill ourselves! Watch the movie "The Insiders" at your leisure, put today's Sheep Hysteria on it, and everything will fall into place.
      4. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 13 May 2020 22: 36 New
        0
        Bummer, stabilization fund, gold and foreign exchange reserves, national welfare fund under the care of the Central Bank. And the Central Bank does not have the right to credit the government of the Russian Federation by law.
        Not responsible for obligations of the government. And it does not depend on the authorities of the Russian Federation.
    2. Romey
      Romey 12 May 2020 19: 55 New
      +6
      That's always the way ... You have money for villas and yachts, but there isn’t something for people. You see the budgets are cracking.
      1. nickname7
        nickname7 13 May 2020 04: 44 New
        0
        . You have money for villas and yachts,

        Actually, in the Russian Federation, even if there is money, an extra class yacht cannot be built, since there are no components to build, money in this case turns into cut paper. Money turned into a yacht in a German shipyard.
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 12 May 2020 21: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: Cowbra
      I read it.


      Quote: Cowbra
      They were told - let’s. Get the masks out of thin air, pay the producers yourself - and carry them around the apartments.

      Do not lie then.
      In April, according to Morozov, more than 138 million masks were produced and more than 100 million masks were purchased.

      Moreover, as the representative of "EP" assured, the population has the means to purchase personal protective equipment. “The measures of support for citizens and their families that the president first announced yesterday, I will not list,” he said.

      As a result, only 74 deputies supported the proposal to give out free of charge to Russians during restrictive meth because of the threat of coronavirus masks and gloves. Against and abstaining, as usual, was not: representatives of the party in power simply ignored the vote.
      https://newdaynews.ru/moscow/691710.html
      1. gsev
        gsev 12 May 2020 22: 14 New
        +2
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        In April, according to Morozov, more than 138 million masks were produced and more than 100 million masks were purchased.

        In Russia, about 1 million health workers. The mask is workable for 2 hours. That is, 200 million masks per month may be enough for doctors and police, but not for the whole country. The PRC also lacks special materials for the production of masks, at least that was the case in April.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 12 May 2020 22: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: gsev
          PRC also lacks special materials for the production of masks

          But what should ordinary people do? From old socks masks tinkering, or what?
          1. novel66
            novel66 12 May 2020 22: 47 New
            +4
            from new ones. old holey
            1. Tatanka Yotanka
              Tatanka Yotanka 13 May 2020 10: 00 New
              +3
              Quote: novel xnumx
              from new ones. old holey

              silk, cotton wool, gauze or papyrus
              all this crap and longing,
              can't stand the dead virus
              that smell is a Russian sock fellow
              1. novel66
                novel66 13 May 2020 10: 11 New
                +3
                ourselves to make ...
            2. gsev
              gsev 13 May 2020 15: 49 New
              0
              Quote: novel xnumx
              from new ones. old holey

              The five sells blank masks. It is enough to cut holes in such a blank with scissors to fit your face and the mask is ready. If you are sick, then wearing such a mask will reduce your chance of infecting others when going to the store. If you sew on a ryzinka and add a nose clip or glue it over with an adhesive pad, this product can be considered a normal mask. In addition, since the 1970s, every home has books like "Everyone should know this." There is a description of the technology of making masks in case of bacteriological and nuclear war. Covid 19-2 is still not anthrax, not Ebola, not plague or smallpox.
    4. Revival
      Revival 12 May 2020 22: 03 New
      -1
      So the state is not able to pay the producers and offers to do this party?
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 04 New
        +3
        Quote: Revival
        So the state is not able to pay the producers and offers to do this party?

        A party for the people, or so on the side bake?
        1. novel66
          novel66 13 May 2020 10: 12 New
          +4
          Serge. and the party is a tool! she is for no one, she is for what
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 24 New
            +3
            Rum, you're rather right! Then the question is ... figs hide behind people if you work for an oligarch?
            1. novel66
              novel66 13 May 2020 10: 25 New
              +4
              and what else to hide behind? God's word no longer (yet)
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 15 New
                +3
                Those. the honorary title "real communist" is nothing more than a fiction ???
                1. novel66
                  novel66 13 May 2020 11: 15 New
                  +4
                  today? are you joking?
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 24 New
                    0
                    Why just joke, here the lady who took the nickname by the name of the Czechoslovak dump truck claims that she is the "real communist"!
                  2. novel66
                    novel66 13 May 2020 11: 25 New
                    +2
                    But is she ready for machine guns? or build a Dneproges spade? if yes, then surely
                  3. Serg65
                    Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 32 New
                    0
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    But is she ready for machine guns? or build a Dneproges spade?

                    laughing Now it's my turn .. joke please, my friend ????
                  4. novel66
                    novel66 13 May 2020 11: 34 New
                    +2
                    that’s all. about real communists. they = then they were not looking for benefits for themselves
              2. novel66
                novel66 13 May 2020 11: 31 New
                +2
                or here is another significant
              3. Serg65
                Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 36 New
                0
                The party members are all so conscious ....... how long ago it was that !!!!
              4. novel66
                novel66 13 May 2020 11: 37 New
                +2
                then they were ... and they still remained in the domestic one, but Pr Khrushchev began to have a profit .. and then the story ends
              5. Serg65
                Serg65 13 May 2020 12: 38 New
                0
                My friend, I'm afraid to offend you, but the fairy tale end even during the war began to draw! PPS, trophy cars, Leningrad bruliks, housekeepers, mozherdomy, bickering of gentlemen-comrades of generals and marshals for a place under the great sun ... Khrushchev is a product of that era!
              6. novel66
                novel66 13 May 2020 12: 39 New
                +3
                he is manure on which everything sprang up
              7. Serg65
                Serg65 13 May 2020 12: 47 New
                0
                Quote: novel xnumx
                he is manure

                smile he-plant grown on soil fertilized by others!
              8. novel66
                novel66 13 May 2020 12: 48 New
                +3
                you shove now !!! am
              9. Serg65
                Serg65 13 May 2020 12: 55 New
                -1
                laughing Here we read, here we do not read, but here we wrap fish?
        2. novel66
          novel66 13 May 2020 12: 40 New
          +3
          and when I stumble over Zhukov’s and trophy affairs, only the lazy one doesn’t minus
        3. Serg65
          Serg65 13 May 2020 12: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: novel xnumx
          only lazy does not minus

          I'm sorry and you'll be forgiven wink Zhukova had both pros and cons ...
        4. novel66
          novel66 13 May 2020 12: 51 New
          0
          the beginning of the war and Sychevka will never forgive
        5. Serg65
          Serg65 13 May 2020 12: 54 New
          +1
          Will you forgive Stalin?
        6. novel66
          novel66 13 May 2020 12: 57 New
          +1
          here it is precisely that which is the marshal of victory!
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        8. novel66
          novel66 13 May 2020 13: 05 New
          +1
          the forgery was obvious, but you didn’t read what I was sending you
        9. Serg65
          Serg65 13 May 2020 13: 08 New
          0
          If forgery, then where did Beria look? What for then the Soviet people spent money on the NKVD ???
  • Sector
    Sector 13 May 2020 13: 01 New
    -2
    Quote: Serg65
    Will you forgive Stalin?

    Stalin for them is the main enemy (they are already warped on one behalf), because he made the USSR a world power and a powerful country not only in terms of armaments, etc.
  • Sector
    Sector 13 May 2020 12: 59 New
    -1
    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: novel xnumx
    only lazy does not minus

    I'm sorry and you'll be forgiven wink Zhukova had both pros and cons ...

    Just like Stalin! But we broke the ridge of Germany .. And this is the main thing, and here many masters pour over our history with mud ..
  • Serg65
    Serg65 13 May 2020 13: 01 New
    +3
    Quote: Sektor
    But Germany we broke the ridge

    Nobody argues with this, my dear Spector is here, the ideological argument of two old drinking companions ..... and nothing more! wink
  • Sector
    Sector 13 May 2020 13: 08 New
    -2
    Quote: Serg65
    ideological debate of two old drinking companions ..... and nothing more!

    Got it ... Excuse me, dear Sergey, that I got in, but I still prefer your arguments anyway .. I could not stand it hi
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 12 May 2020 19: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Corona without virus
    the communists proposed

    You have seven mistakes in the word capitalists.
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 19: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
      Quote: Corona without virus
      the communists proposed

      You have seven mistakes in the word capitalists.

      but I write the word "communist" without a single achaputka wassat
  • Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 12 May 2020 21: 58 New
    +4
    A very good example with masks. That United Russia, the Communist Party-the same thing, the only difference is in the details. Some for free distribution, others for money. And no one said that these masks are only a means of enriching someone unclear, they are completely useless for maintaining health and such compulsory duty simply degrades human dignity. If tomorrow a decree comes out that everyone should crawl on their belly, these parties will argue about where to find durable suits for crawling, and not about canceling such a decree.
    Before our eyes, the mentality of the victorious people is being destroyed, the psychology of humility and resignation is being fostered - fines, prohibitions, restrictions, rising taxes, ignoring freedoms and rights.
    Parties only argue about packaging, and the quality of the product itself suits them all.
    1. nickname7
      nickname7 13 May 2020 04: 56 New
      -3
      . no one said that these masks are only a means of enriching someone unclear, they are completely useless for maintaining health and such compulsory duty simply degrades human dignity

      You are blatantly lying, mask 95, a construction respirator, perfectly retains drip moisture, in which the virus reduces the number of patients.
      For complaint, send claims to the crown.
      If the Yellowstone volcano explodes, let’s crawl on your belly, if necessary, such is the logic of the crisis, the more FOS majors, the less rights and freedoms.

      . us before our eyes the mentality of the victorious people is destroyed, the psychology of humility is brought up

      And according to this phrase, a bot is calculated that distributes information about sabotage of the fight against the virus.
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 12 May 2020 22: 25 New
    -2
    Quote: Corona without virus
    read - the communists offered to give out masks to the people for FREE - and the United Russia responded that the people were snickering

    the cost of the mask is 2 rubles. Distribute for free - that is, at the expense of the budget, it means to act under the law on quarantine ... not a great feat! ordinary populism.
    Communists should educate people !!! to develop tactics and strategy for the struggle for a bright communist future! look for new adherents! wrestlers! heroes! to improve and adapt the theory of Marx and Lenin to modern conditions, and most importantly, to develop methods to combat the existing regime of global financial arbitrariness !!
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: aybolyt678
      the main thing is to develop methods to combat the existing regime of global financial arbitrariness !!

      Those. the whole struggle for the people is the development of methods .... good , from here and your meager interest in the elections .. theorists laughing
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 13 May 2020 10: 17 New
        -1
        Quote: Serg65
        from here and your meager interest in the elections .. theorists

        but yours! large percentage in elections turns into negative economic development smile respected "practitioners"
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 22 New
          -1
          Quote: aybolyt678
          a large percentage of the election turns into a negative economic development

          what In bast shoes, go and quinoa for lunch?
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 13 May 2020 10: 24 New
            -2
            what for? the house has 3 floors, billiards and tennis are in the volume ... in the pig shed, in the clinic is the turn ... the trouble is that I don’t know where the children are learning to give, so that the prospect is. In the absence thereof, all the problems in the country winked
            I, you know, the graduated veterinarian virologist, left science for the self-employed proletarians, tired of this circus with grants. Now I see that science, on guard of money, is losing its last authority. It hurts, believe me.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 21 New
              +1
              Quote: aybolyt678
              I don’t know where children are learning to give, so that the prospect is

              Do not be offended, but I’ll tell you one unpleasant thing, no matter where you give your children away, because they have no goal to achieve anything ... they already have everything.
              Quote: aybolyt678
              left science for the self-employed proletarians

              laughing and you are a joker, my friend !!! I understand that from the abundance in your three-story house you are just bored?
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 13 May 2020 11: 33 New
                -2
                Quote: Serg65
                but I’ll tell you one unpleasant thing, it doesn’t matter to you where to give your children, because they have no goal to achieve something ... they already have everything.

                I think a little wider laughing "Happiness is a sense of perspective" no matter what. Any material wealth causes satiety, or frustration, in case there are examples of greater wealth. A person needs an opportunity for self-realization. It is important for him to feel needed ... If a person cannot change the reality around him, he will inevitably begin to change his attitude to reality with the help of alcohol or drugs.
                Man is created in the likeness of God, that is, he is the Creator. Man's will is a spark of God, not to be confused with animal desires for material wealth. It is not right. I believe that the question is being solved right now - will humanity become a space race or will begin to eat each other like rats in a bank
                A person must think and do more than one generation ahead. then he will be happy
                I understand that from the abundance in your three-story house
                - in the courtyard of the 21st century, do not attach much importance to toys ... today's technologies can ruin any country in a couple of years. Remember the USSR.
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 42 New
                  +4
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  humanity will become a space race or start to eat each other like rats in a bank
                  A person must think and do more than one generation ahead. then he will be happy

                  what Hmm ... not proletarian thoughts, definitely! What theories do you enjoy at your leisure?
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  For a person, the possibility of self-realization is necessary. It is important for him to feel fit.

                  In this case, can you leave your choice of self-realization to your children? They probably have some inclinations?
                  1. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 13 May 2020 11: 52 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Serg65
                    What theories do you enjoy at your leisure?

                    I'm re-reading Marx and Lenin.
                    Quote: Serg65
                    maybe leave your choice of self-realization for your children?

                    Thank you for the attention. Touched. smile The trouble is that the Ideology of Consumption is being cultivated today, and mass consumer psychosis undoubtedly affects the fragile children's psyche. You watch the little children somehow ... see how they watch the ads! they love her! she looks like a short fairy tale with a happy ending !! but in reality she cultivates an attitude towards life. sad . This gives rise to some misunderstanding in determining the Purpose in life, between parents and children.
                    And they don’t know the word Honor, not my children, but often in general.
  • Serg65
    Serg65 13 May 2020 09: 15 New
    0
    Quote: Corona without virus
    communists have offered to give people a mask for FREE

    Well, they would distribute, tea would not be impoverished! What is the problem?
  • BREAKTHROUGH READY
    BREAKTHROUGH READY 12 May 2020 18: 32 New
    -26
    “United Russia” is the pillar of the political system and the only guarantee of stability for the people.
    Even the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party, let them be for the sake of pluralism, so that the liberde does not buzz once again.
    Any Maidanites should not even be allowed close to the legislative bodies. They will sell the homeland for the money of Soros and will not blink an eye.
    1. really
      really 12 May 2020 18: 39 New
      +5
      Something is not heard about the huge property of the opposition leaders, but very much is heard about the leaders of the ruling parties
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 12 May 2020 18: 50 New
        -3
        Didn’t you hear about buying a crab business in the Far East? Navalny was sitting for the wrong crossing of the road or for the theft of the forest near Kirov? Further everywhere.
        1. really
          really 12 May 2020 18: 52 New
          +6
          How much Navalny was charged with money, and Sobchak is not the opposition,
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      2. U-58
        U-58 12 May 2020 19: 39 New
        0
        Not yet evening. Wait, there are numerous bank accounts and kilograms of gold ...
      3. Serg65
        Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: really
        Something is not heard about the huge property of opposition leaders

        LLC "Grandestate Service" and CJSC "Gorod-Zhilservis" do not tell who owns?
        V. Rashkin is a "communist of the new formation". Ideology and morality in their traditional form are practically absent. Strongly "included" in the election campaign for the governor. She has an established idea of ​​her methods and the established rules of the game, which she understands in her own way.
        In particular, in January he received large sums of cash (250 and 190 thousand, respectively) from the heads of firms operating at the two largest industrial enterprises in Saratov. At the same time, he undertook the obligation to exempt them, if elected governor, from most of the local taxes and not to allow the regulatory authorities to intervene in the financial affairs of enterprises and their subsidiaries.
        In return for obligations - future patronage. Therefore, it accepts money and transfers from people close to criminal circles.
        Comrade Rashkin, criticizing his competitors in words, however, under convenient circumstances he is able to apply any dirty methods in the election campaign.

        From an analytical note to the Chairman of the Presidium of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation G. Zyuganov regarding Rashkina V.F
    2. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 18: 54 New
      +9
      Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
      “United Russia” is the pillar of the political system and the only guarantee of stability for the people.
      Even the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party, let them be for the sake of pluralism, so that the liberde does not buzz once again.
      Any Maidanites should not even be allowed close to the legislative bodies. They will sell the homeland for the money of Soros and will not blink an eye.

      I am amazed at your ability to lie so brazenly in the eyes !!! Bravo!!! Keep it up!!! good
    3. Grandfather
      Grandfather 12 May 2020 19: 14 New
      11
      Quote: READY FOR BREAKTHROUGH
      United Russia ”is the pillar of the political system and the only guarantee of stability for the people.

      "mikhan" ... not funny ... take off the cross, or put on your panties.
      1. Revival
        Revival 13 May 2020 00: 43 New
        -3
        He is simpler, he is without that and without the other
    4. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 12 May 2020 20: 39 New
      +3
      Are you kidding? Look how much money the equidistant oligarchs stole from the country for 20 years of stability. And how much officials stole and divided the officials they already sold their homeland. for citizenship in Europe. for villas on the Cote d'Azur. for the happy and prosperous future of their children outside of our country They just fool us
    5. Revival
      Revival 12 May 2020 22: 05 New
      -2
      "Eat Russia" is the pillar of the political system and the only guarantee of stability for the people.
      ?
      What a laugh!
      And the people are the government + 2%?
      Well then, yes ..
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    7. AUL
      AUL 13 May 2020 08: 53 New
      -2
      Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
      “United Russia” is the pillar of the political system and the only guarantee of stability for the people.
      Even the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party, let them be for the sake of pluralism, so that the liberde does not buzz once again.
      Any Maidanites should not even be allowed close to the legislative bodies. They will sell the homeland for the money of Soros and will not blink an eye.

      That's what distance learning brings! He would have to correct deuces at school, and here he writes slogans on an adult forum ...
  • Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 12 May 2020 18: 34 New
    +2
    The main question in our life: who finances these "parties"? He dances these parties. Finances tightened and the parties were blown away.
  • knn54
    knn54 12 May 2020 18: 35 New
    0
    You can’t talk much in a mask.
    They are waiting for the "command" ... and money
  • tatra
    tatra 12 May 2020 18: 36 New
    -1
    Why Putin, that all other Russian enemies of the communists are afraid of a strong party and strong leaders around which the patriots of Russia would unite. Here are normal people - the "left" before the last "Putin elections" united, created their own Program for Russia and the people, chose their candidate, and what an evil sabbath - with rudeness, insults, slander, hypocritical "righteous anger" the enemies of the communists staged against them , including, and as an "exemplary court" - so that others were discouraged.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 12 May 2020 18: 57 New
      -7
      Quote: tatra
      Here are normal people - the "left" before the last "Putin elections" united, created their own Program for Russia and the people, chose their own candidate, and what an evil sabbath - with rudeness, insults, slander, hypocritical "righteous anger", staged against them by the enemies of the communists , including, and as an "exemplary court" - so that others were discouraged.

      What did you want to say, sick? Drooling alone. repeat
    2. Romey
      Romey 12 May 2020 19: 43 New
      +1
      Um ... We united then not around the ideology, the party and even more so the leader, but around the program and common sense. Why do I, a right-wing nationalist, need Marxism-Leninism, if I am more interested in the social and economic agenda, which coincided with the views of reasonable and negotiable people of the left? And yet it would be nice for you to clarify who the "enemies of the communists" are? I am also an enemy, it turns out, because I do not share your ideology?
      1. tatra
        tatra 12 May 2020 21: 39 New
        -3
        The enemies of the Communists, who fall into hysteria when they are called so, are those who are 70 years old under the Soviet regime and 30 years after the capture of the USSR, they rage against the Communists and their supporters, and they themselves did nothing useful for their country and people, and not even offered. Just stupid, irrational AGAINST.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 12 May 2020 22: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: tatra
          30 years after the capture of the USSR, they rave against the Communists and their supporters

          For the last 40 years, only communists have ruled the country, many parts of the country have fallen off, others have ruled there, in the past communists .... I, a convinced Marxist, do not see any fighter or competent ideologist among today's Duma communists! I see the primates bought by the bankers fool .
          1. tatra
            tatra 12 May 2020 23: 00 New
            -4
            No, you are a classic enemy of the communists with their cowardly, irresponsible mentality, whining that they have nothing to do with everything they did during the Soviet period and after the capture and dismemberment of the USSR - from responsibility for unleashing the Civil War after the October Revolution with the purpose of their capture of Russia, to the point of responsibility for what they did to the republics of the USSR and their peoples that they captured for those large and huge salaries and expenses that they got after their capture of the USSR. And the communists and their supporters have always been proud and proud of what they have done, starting with the October Revolution, and before your "Liberator" Gorbachev seized power in the USSR.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 12 May 2020 23: 07 New
              +2
              well, enemy of the communists ?? First, can we define the term?
          2. DNS-a42
            DNS-a42 13 May 2020 08: 00 New
            +2
            Quote: aybolyt678
            the last 40 years only communists rule the country

            And what actions did these citizens commit in order to be worthy of being called communists?
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: romey
        We then united not around ideology, the party, and even less a leader, but around a program and common sense

        Masterpiece !!! good
        Quote: romey
        Why do i need right-wing nationalist Marxism-Leninism

        Well, and then the virgin communists roll their eyes .. we are not brothers with the Nazis! laughing
    3. Serg65
      Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: tatra
      Here normal people - the "left" before the last "Putin elections" united, created their own Program for Russia and the people, chose their candidate

      laughing Irina, you are tearing your navel against the enemies of communism, but choosing a bourgeois candidate ... is everything normal with your head?
      1. tatra
        tatra 13 May 2020 10: 30 New
        -1
        And that, in your opinion, the enemies of the Communists have the right to be rich, and all Communists and their supporters must be poor? In the party of Bolshevik Communists there were many noblemen and people from wealthy families. Are they not communists for you?
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: tatra
          In the party of the Bolshevik Communists there were many noblemen and people from wealthy families

          There were, I agree! But they were theorists and did not shine with wealth, for all that, the Bolsheviks (namely, you are real Communists) did not even think that their main representative in power would be, for example, Morozov or Brodsky ... is it not true?
          1. tatra
            tatra 13 May 2020 11: 07 New
            -1
            You can talk a lot, but what do you specifically propose? Wait for the patriots of Russia to have their own leader from the poor?
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 28 New
              +3
              Quote: tatra
              patriots of Russia

              Patriots of Russia are not looking for a convenient moment to ruin Russia!
              Quote: tatra
              Wait for the patriots of Russia to have their own leader from the poor?

              Yes, it’s better to wait than to expose yourself like that !!!
  • Leo_59
    Leo_59 12 May 2020 18: 49 New
    -3
    A Progressive and Relatively Near-Faced Future of a Digitalized Society is a non-partisan system.
    A system with leaders who have their own publicly popularized conceptually relevant socio-economic platforms.
  • Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 12 May 2020 18: 51 New
    0
    they all eat from one trough there and crap on the people
  • Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 12 May 2020 18: 58 New
    0
    To the author - PLUS !!! For all the fuss with the coronavirus, we somehow forgot about the parties ... before, at least somehow "whispered" to ourselves, and now not only in self-isolation, but also in self-mute))) I don’t ask about the PRC, so the party always the vanguard of the class struggle, even of the coronavirus struggle. But how did the parties behave in a pandemic? How are our verbiage? It would be interesting to know, for comparison)))
    1. Revival
      Revival 12 May 2020 22: 08 New
      -2
      As long as the traitor zu hangs anchor on the party, there will be no movements
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 32 New
        0
        Quote: Revival
        While the traitor zyu hangs anchor on the party

        All their lives they have betrayed them ... yes, well, what kind of party are you?
        1. Revival
          Revival 13 May 2020 12: 37 New
          -2
          I'm not a member of the party
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 13 May 2020 13: 05 New
            0
            Quote: Revival
            I'm not a member of the party

            what An interesting movie turns out ... everything is for communism, but it’s worth digging a little so right away who is not, who is a monarchist, this one is just a socialist, and that one is generally a Nazi ..... The 8th Comintern is some kind!
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 13 May 2020 20: 50 New
          0
          Quote: Serg65
          All their lives they have betrayed them ... yes, well, what kind of party are you?

          The Communist Party has become a party of traitors since the second half of the 20th century. When the Cult of Personality was announced. A person with communist convictions there generally began to do nothing.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 14 May 2020 08: 03 New
            0
            Quote: aybolyt678
            The Communist Party has become a party of traitors since the second half of the 20th century

            what From the second half ??? Come on!!! And I thought it was a sinful thing that since 1907 all this camarilla began ... well, it must be!
  • rocket757
    rocket757 12 May 2020 19: 01 New
    0
    . Interestingly, the period of the economic crisis and the associated deterioration in the social well-being of citizens is a great chance for the opposition (not a bunch of balabol, but a real active opposition, ready to work precisely for the good of the country) to gain points. But the Russian parties are not taking any serious action in this direction.

    Really interesting also strange !!!
    Once in my life I saw a real attempt by a representative of an opposition party to help people! He could not do anything, really, but after all, it LIKED people that he wanted to help and people returned him, his party, a hundredfold "debt"! Nobody has forgotten anything, and in the next elections this party received well-deserved buns. People voted for them more than ever!
  • Hagen
    Hagen 12 May 2020 19: 03 New
    -1
    The political system created in Russia is confidently opposed to the emergence of new parties and movements that could represent at least some kind of independence. Neither the alternative Communist Party of the Left, nor the nationalists (in the patriotic sense of the word), nor the notorious “bulk players” are not allowed into the State Duma.

    I wonder how exactly they are not allowed? Who won't let you in, why won't you? At the elections to the State Duma in 2016, 14 were exposed !!! parties. And everyone had the opportunity to come to the voters and explain their point of view on the political process. Who remembers these games today? Who knows what they are doing today? What are these parties doing in order to qualify for the next elections? Take Yabloko for example. How long do they take on different shows? Infinitely many. But as you listen to the representatives of this party, for some reason you think that these are the winners of the competition for the most narrow-minded people in Russia. What, the system prevents them from thinking who to move to present the people "party line"? I think it's time to end these sobs over the usurpation of the policy of the country of one United Russia. It's just that her work is really more organized than that of the Communist Party or the SR, and even more so for those who, with all equals, failed to interest 3% of voters in themselves. Under Nikolay2 no one from the authorities of the RSDLP provided the "green" road, but it won the political struggle and achieved its goals. It's all about the leaders. Grandfather Lenin managed to take power in his hands with minimal forces and lead the people of the whole country. As Vysotsky said: "there are few real violent - that is, there are no leaders." The system has nothing to do with it.
    1. Cresta999
      Cresta999 12 May 2020 19: 50 New
      +4
      As a participant in the elections I will answer - you are wrong. The system most directly and very simply affects the passage of parties in the State Duma. I collected signatures in Vologda for the admission of air defense before the election. Signatures collected. (And this in itself is difficult). But they were simply recognized as not valid. Although this is not so. That's all. And you won’t do anything.
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 12 May 2020 19: 54 New
        0
        Quote: Cresta999
        Signatures collected. (And this in itself is difficult). But they were simply recognized as not valid. Although this is not so. That's all. And you won’t do anything.

        Was the court ruling? And then, this is only air defense, which did not go to the polls. And those that passed, who prevented them from competing with the first four?
        1. Revival
          Revival 12 May 2020 22: 12 New
          -2
          The court decision was ..
          A man comes to court and declares that yes, I signed, and the expert brought in by the court declares that there is not his signature, and the judge says that the signature is not yours!
          Overcome such a court?
        2. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 12 May 2020 23: 06 New
          +1
          the court's decision? independent on elective matters? it’s hard to argue with such naivety .. though .. but can you find a solution where at least one party (not EP) won the election question in court and still got to the vote?
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 13 May 2020 20: 51 New
            +5
            Quote: 2 level advisor
            the court's decision? independent on elective matters? it’s hard to argue with such naivety .. though .. but can you find a solution where at least one party (not EP) won the election question in court and still got to the vote?

            The court ordered Mitrokhin to be registered as a candidate for deputy of the Moscow City Duma
            The Moscow City Commission reported that they will register a member of the Yabloko party at a meeting on August 14. Earlier, the district election commission twice refused to Sergei Mitrokhin because of the quality of signatures

            www.rbc.ru/politics/13/08/2019/5d52d9fc9a794748fc95e939
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 14 May 2020 16: 06 New
              -1
              this is when 2 weeks were left for agitation, and the remaining 6 weeks were after numerous meetings in Moscow with his participation? Well, yes .. everything is quite ordinary .. Ordinary .. And it never smells like a concession to the protesters, so as not to yell about what I wrote ..

              By the way, here is the info: https://mskgazeta.ru/politika/sergej-mitrohin--zamaskirovannyj-kandidat-v-mosgordumu-ot-vlasti--tak-schitayut-pol-zovateli-socsetej.html

              “Such is Mitrokhin, for example, and you won’t show him that he is pro-government because he speaks of bad EdRo at every corner, and if you look, they forgave him forged signatures and let him go to the MHD elections and he’ll take his seat there (screen) and don’t nobody put him in motion for rallies, although he was even more involved there than "
      2. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 12 May 2020 20: 09 New
        -1
        We omit the fact of collecting signatures for the balabol of the old man. But here a man says quite fair things. Fuck when the ruling class allows the party through the elections to pose a party that poses a real threat to it, and even its competitors from the same class will allow the hell that we observe with air defense. laughing
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 13 May 2020 06: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Fuck when the ruling class will allow the party posing a real threat to power through elections

          This is all theory, speculation and assumptions. "Yabloko" was in the Duma in the first three convocations, what prevented further? Who didn't let her in? Who and how forbade voting for her? For example ... did anyone point out where to place jackdaws? I don't. The only thing the administrative apparatus aimed at, but very cautiously, was that people simply come to the polling stations. And for this, various enticements were invented, such as contests with prizes. But I have never heard of someone pushing through any party or person. I, in a sense, participate in election campaigns and see something from the inside. Today, people in election commissions are well aware of what they can lose for the undercover "fuss" and that no one, even the ruling party, will help them out from under investigation, if any.
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          But here a man says quite fair things

          So your fair things are just a set of speculation from the fence. Sorry for being blunt.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 13 May 2020 10: 31 New
            +1
            Quote: Hagen
            This is all theory, speculation and assumptions. "Yabloko" was in the Duma in the first three convocations, what prevented further?

            Do not make me laugh. What threat does Yavlinsky pose? The correct answer is no.
            Quote: Hagen
            the administrative apparatus is that people generally just come to the polls.

            Yes Yes. Kanechna. And state employees by hook or by crook, of course, are not driven to the polls and do not prompt the right candidates. And the fraud and almost 100 percent vote of Chechnya are all of course invented by agents of the State Department.
            Quote: Hagen
            In a way, I’m participating in election campaigns and I see something from the inside.

            I am also a little aware of the backstage affairs.
            Quote: Hagen
            So your fair things are just a set of speculation from the fence.

            But your 146 percent is true.
            1. Hagen
              Hagen 13 May 2020 11: 58 New
              0
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Do not make me laugh. What threat does Yavlinsky pose? The correct answer is no.

              Let's first respect each other ... and "you". According to Yavlinsky. Therefore, he did not go anywhere, because the voter did not see the need for him, first of all. I didn’t speak about threats from him.
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              And state employees by hook or by crook of course do not drive to the polls and do not prompt the right candidates

              You may not believe, the correct candidates are not prompted. And photos of ballots are not required. The budget is not a bad workplace, so that you can exchange it for all sorts of feints that do not carry anything with risk. Yes, people today quite understand what phone number to dial in order to create comfort for such "assistants" of politicians. And to come to the polls, then yes, they persuade, but without threats, because it is not very easy to check the turnout, and it is very difficult to dismiss for it.

              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              But your 146 percent is true.

              We know where these 146 come from. We know that this ... does not cram into the context of the conversation. They stopped twisting this lie even in the West, don’t tell my slippers ... Please. laughing Yes, if you are interested, hammer in the search for "myth 146" there you will receive a detailed description and interested parties.
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 13 May 2020 12: 56 New
                -1
                Quote: Hagen
                Therefore, he did not go anywhere because the voter did not see the need for him, first of all.

                So why are you telling me this? You demand respect from me while doing demagogy. I say that he poses no threat to the authorities, you begin to prove the same to me while saying that I am wrong.
                Quote: Hagen
                You may not believe the right candidates are not prompted. And photos of newsletters do not require.

                Somewhere no, somewhere yes. Although I agree that the government began to work less ax but than in the 90s.
                Quote: Hagen
                The budget is not a bad workplace, which would be exchanged for all sorts of feints that carry nothing with risk.

                I don’t see people striving for state employees. And probably right. With their stable beggarly salaries and a bunch of headaches from all sorts of grabbers of bureaucrats and other creative personalities from the bosses.
                Quote: Hagen
                And to come to the polls, then yes, they persuade, but without threats, because it is not very easy to check the appearance, but it’s very difficult to fire for her.

                But there is always a bunch of nuances. About which you are modestly silent.
                Quote: Hagen
                We know where these 146 come from. We know that this ... does not cram into the context of the conversation. They stopped twisting this lie even in the West, don’t tell my slippers ...

                Honestly, I do not care. I took this meme more as a very good characterization of our power. Which the farther the more bronzed. Well, or cast in granite.
                1. Hagen
                  Hagen 13 May 2020 14: 24 New
                  +1
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  You demand respect from me while doing demagogy.

                  I consider it necessary to respect the interlocutor even in the absence of my consent with him. You tell me with your phrase that you deny me respect. I will not bother you with myself, especially since you are not interesting to me either.
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 13 May 2020 14: 59 New
                    -1
                    This is of course very sad. But I think I will survive.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 12 May 2020 22: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: Hagen
      Grandfather Lenin managed with minimal powers to take power and lead the people of an entire country

      then the country was almost not a country. The police were disbanded, the state bodies were paralyzed, the tsar was on the verge of renunciation, the church ceased to be a spiritual support, money ceased to be money .... At the same time, there were people who studied Capital ... faith in science appeared !! .. there was a need for changes ... And then Lenin "Land for the peasants, factories for the workers!" we will steer ourselves! "All power to the Soviets"! , - simple, understandable slogans ... Come up with today a slogan close to the aspirations of the majority ??? problem !!! society is poisoned by the ideology of consumption and individualism!
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 13 May 2020 06: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: aybolyt678
        then the country was almost no country.

        It is when? Was RI not a country from 1898 to 1914? Do you confuse RI with anyone? When the Republic of Ingushetia began to crumble, the RSDLP was already a powerful political force, and it was tearing the state apparatus along with all other parties, and even better.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 13 May 2020 06: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Hagen
          It is when?

          I mean the period after the February revolution, remember the order number 1 on the army, or the dissolution of the police !! state power was paralyzed, soldiers shot officers in the back, money was stored in bags ... people longed for order
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 13 May 2020 07: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: aybolyt678
            meaning the period after the February revolution

            But what, Lenin appeared only after February? He just did a lot right before the February Revolution. Because the authorities and drove him as they could. But they lost.
            Quote: aybolyt678
            people longed for order

            Probably from this thirst he killed each other in tens of thousands? The civil war, as the fighting of the whites against the reds, claimed about 1,6 million people, and the total losses of those years amounted to more than 12 million. An interesting thirst for order, isn't it?
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 13 May 2020 08: 02 New
              0
              Quote: Hagen
              The civil war, as the fighting of the whites against the reds, claimed about 1,6 million people,

              And do not know whose money was that war? Why were the workers of the Putilov factory armed with English-made rifles? What did the Americans do in the Far East? where did Kolchak go before heading the army? Lenin's genius lies in the scientific analysis of the political situation, the ability to convincingly convey his point of view (take his article Imperialism as high .... put up-to-date numbers there, and this article will become a bomb) and last, he found the right slogans that hit the heart.
              And the war at that time was also going on against the bandits who put on red ribbons to disguise, they greatly spoiled the authority of the revolution
              1. Hagen
                Hagen 13 May 2020 08: 37 New
                +1
                Quote: aybolyt678
                And do not know whose money was that war?

                Have you read the topic under discussion? And where is the money for the war? We are talking about the activity of parties in the political process and the system opposing them during a completely non-military.
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 13 May 2020 08: 54 New
                  0
                  Quote: Hagen
                  We are talking about the activity of parties in the political process.

                  the analogy method is a very worthy method of knowing the world ... I can repeat myself, but our Duma was thoroughly purchased by bankers, then what they are doing is the IDB (imitation of violent activity). The opposition is self-sufficient, no one goes further than populism in front of the camera. Opposition activity is not needed by the Banks, Baranovirus is enough to solve the main banking problem, namely, to force the poorest to pay for their ambitions.
                  1. Hagen
                    Hagen 13 May 2020 09: 16 New
                    +2
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    our Duma was bought through and through by bankers

                    And besides the quotes of the "children" of Khodorkovsky, can you give anything specific? Who was bought, by whom, for what money? What kind of work does the buyer benefit from? Slightly more substantively illuminate your thesis. It is clear with the activity of the Duma opposition. She behaved like that all the way, because with such a position, there is no need to account for the result later. But we are talking about the system's opposition to access to power by other parties that are not represented in the Duma. And no one can refute my thesis about their poor and unconvincing work, or no one wants to be obvious. So all the questions about their penetration into the Duma are not to the system, but to themselves.
                    1. 2 Level Advisor
                      2 Level Advisor 13 May 2020 09: 27 New
                      -1
                      Well, you heard about the existence of lobbyists in Kapmir? You do not deny their existence? Do you think there is a document in which lobbyists are officially employed or put up a price list for services? such documents do not exist in nature that you require, but this does not mean that this is not .. and you know it ..
                      And when I asked you to give at least some court decision where the party (not EP) went through the court and participated in the elections, you didn’t say anything .. But the court’s decision, if there was one, is there .. Double standards don't you find?
                      1. Hagen
                        Hagen 13 May 2020 09: 45 New
                        0
                        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                        But just the court’s decision, if it was, it is ..

                        Moreover, all this is in the plenums of the Armed Forces. There is a guarantor in the information system, too. Request, get first hand. You can dig here https://www.garant.ru/products/ipo/prime/doc/71251696/ There is a collection. I didn’t do it much, but people are turning, they are getting decisions. Despite the fact that in most cases the decisions of the first instances remain unchanged. This is to ensure that the practice itself exists. It is difficult to discuss a specific case with air defense, because the reasons for not accepting signatures can be not only on the basis of the forgery of the signature itself, but also because it may have been a mess in the preparation of document forms. There are many conditions that must be met.
                      2. 2 Level Advisor
                        2 Level Advisor 13 May 2020 09: 51 New
                        -1
                        I knew that you would bring this Plenum .. that's why I wrote "I went through the court and took part in the elections", because if you even win the court after some time reaching the Supreme Court, the elections have already passed! no one will hold them again because of you .. but you can be happy, you were right, but you did not participate in the elections ..

                        P.S. and why is it that all problems with courts are almost always not found at EP, don’t you find it?
                  2. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 13 May 2020 10: 08 New
                    0
                    Quote: Hagen
                    can you bring something specific?

                    Please just listen carefully: https://youtu.be/ZfECvqrR_-Q, if it doesn’t work, hammer it in YouTube: This has never happened in history. Which scenario is being implemented. Valentin Katasonov
                    1. Hagen
                      Hagen 13 May 2020 11: 46 New
                      +1
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      Please only carefully

                      Valentin Yurievich is a very eminent person in the circles of economics theorists. But he was not noted for practical economics. The collective farm did not raise, the subject of the federation did not lead to the leaders of economic growth. There was a saying in the army - if you don’t want to work, go teach how to work, if you don’t want to teach how to work, go teach how to teach how to work ... and then ad infinitum. He competently expounds all his ideas, like Glazyev, but he has several theories in his pocket, and in practice it is not enough which forecast has come true. Let the regional leader steer for five years, then it will be possible to listen to him, and even then not always. As dialectical materialism says: "practice is the criterion of truth."
    3. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 13 May 2020 10: 35 New
      0
      Quote: aybolyt678
      society is poisoned by the ideology of consumption and individualism!

      Actually, this is about consumption, and a little about individualism. Or do you think a communist should be a complete ascetic? In this case, you are unlikely to succeed in building it.
  • alone
    alone 12 May 2020 19: 09 New
    +1
    When all structures and the ramification of power are concentrated in the hands of one force, the quantity or quality of parties does not play any role ..
  • veritas
    veritas 12 May 2020 19: 15 New
    +5
    Over the past twenty years, not a single new political force has appeared in the country that could really declare itself, go to parliament, compete not even with the party in power, but with the “eternal" Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party.

    Over the past twenty years nothing new has appeared at all. Actors, singers, politicians are the same people. Who got to the feeder and all divided strangers will not be allowed. Although the renewal is so necessary for the body, otherwise death or mutation.
  • lot
    lot 12 May 2020 19: 15 New
    0
    So rethink the case of Khodorkovsky ..
    And also remember Zhirik and Volgodonsk.
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 12 May 2020 19: 15 New
    10
    No need to lie! Also tell me what the people for the pension reform of EP carry on their hands? The whole YouTube is littered with video of election violations. Therefore, the EP and the party in power, because the winners are not judged !!
    1. U-58
      U-58 12 May 2020 19: 44 New
      +7
      [quote the winners are not judged !! [/ quote]
      And it would be necessary ...
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 12 May 2020 19: 18 New
    +7
    Dreaming.
    "The old political parties are really outlived their usefulness and the political future of Russian society will be associated with the emergence of new political forces, possibly with new ideologies and organizational models."

    EDRO decides whom to finance. It gives money for pseudo opposition. From the Communist Party to the Liberal Democratic Party.
    And because of the virus, other news just surfaced, nice or not. And I had to retouch them, and not spend the money on PR pocket option. Yes, and it’s a pity to spend yours on all kinds of things there ... we wouldn’t get sick after the Italy boutiques ....

    And new .... What ??? I remember that there were OURS, LEADERS OF RUSSIA, NAC FRONT Putin, Anti-cad, Blue buckets, The essence of time and others. And where are they ??? In oblivion or half oblivion - the little piggy is not enough for all the money ...

    And all the recent crush. Provocateurs, money, greenbacks, pipes, Chechens and Cossacks, and plane crashes.

    Everything will be as before. Salvage is divided in silence ....
    1. depressant
      depressant 12 May 2020 20: 36 New
      -1
      Not quite in silence, colleague))
      Every day, comprehending new data on coronavirus, I noticed that a strange something is happening in the official information space, and this something can be described in one word - inconsistency. Not being able to comprehend this very "inconsistency", I went to the Internet. The malicious and even evil blogosphere, having long buried the main party members of all stripes hidden in the corona-tier caches as something now politically weak means insignificant, put forward the assumption that right now two political parties are being formed before our eyes, which will become the main ones. One of them is "coronavirus". These are those who are satisfied with the epidemic, because they row on masks, gloves and fines, investments in hospitals being built, in the production of ventilators and protective suits, on drugs that increase immunity, and therefore they want the epidemic to last forever. Hence the alleged data on the incredible and stable daily increase in the number of carriers of the virus. The second party is the "amendmentists" interested in the early voting on the presidential amendments. From their point of view, the mortality rate from the coronavirus is supposedly so low in comparison with the mortality rate from the usual flu, that against the background of the collapsing economy with the epidemic, it is time to tie everyone up as soon as possible by simply going to work and vote on the slightly forgotten amendments to the Constitution as soon as possible. It's like the parts of blunts and gibs in Swift's Travels of Gulliver. Whether it is true or not, the discrepancy in the timing of the end of self-isolation within a month was obvious. Which leads to such fabrications))))
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 12 May 2020 21: 49 New
        0
        Quote: depressant
        One of them is "coronavirus". These are those who are satisfied with the epidemic, because they row on masks, gloves and fines, investments in hospitals being built, in the production of ventilators and protective suits, on drugs that increase immunity, and therefore they want the epidemic to last forever. Hence the alleged data on the incredible and stable daily increase in the number of carriers of the virus. The second party is the "amendmentists" interested in the early voting on the presidential amendments.

        And also, probably, there are "intermediaries". As with us, they have imposed fines for not wearing masks up to 30 thousand rubles, and do what you want.
        1. depressant
          depressant 12 May 2020 22: 14 New
          -1
          30 thousand?!? Stunned! To the beast!
          As if the shores were lost. This is despite the fact that a simple mask needs to be thrown away upon arrival home - they write about it everywhere. Well yes. Party of "intermediaries-fining". Let's just call it "penal battalion".
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 12 May 2020 23: 01 New
        -1
        Quote: depressant
        Which leads to such fabrications))))

        watch the film "Insiders" about the 2008 crisis. Put today's Baranovirus hysteria on him and everything will fall into place. The hysteria is specially worked out and is played out like clockwork. Bankers bought the media, politicians, the Duma act in their interests, fearing to lose the existing buns, it is convenient for everyone: bankers do not need to blush for inflation, officials for work, rulers for development ... and some people will make money on masks at their maximum cost price in 2 rubles!
        looks like a test of loyalty to world bankers!
      3. Maks1995
        Maks1995 12 May 2020 23: 37 New
        +1
        These are trifles.
        Elite with the loot requires the fastest to expel all to work. They stopped poking their fingers at Trump and the rest, demanding the same.
        Serving elite wants to sit out the outbreak of the epidemic, at least to arrange everything for the further course.

        And then they get together again and promise, promise, promise.
        1. depressant
          depressant 13 May 2020 00: 02 New
          -2
          I just watched the American film "Virus" from 2016. I recommend to all. There is a script. Like notes. It became disgusting. If it's true ... No words!
  • U-58
    U-58 12 May 2020 19: 34 New
    +3
    The author at first seems to be disingenuous, hinting at the phantom of the parties, but then corrects itself.
    If his maxims are translated into normal language, it turns out that he recognizes that any opposition has been gagged very tightly.
    Any attempts to break the "blockade" are ruthlessly suppressed.
    As a result, the man in the street creates a stable feeling of absence, and in the best case, sham of all parties, except for the "Only Russia" in the world.
    That is, the desired (by the authorities) is issued as reality.
    Thus, the opposition’s actions are quite successfully leveled.
    Which is very undemocratic in both form and content.
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 13 May 2020 06: 34 New
      -2
      Quote: U-58

      As a result, the man in the street creates a stable feeling of absence, and in the best case, sham of all parties, except for the "Only Russia" in the world.

      No, the layman has a steady sense of the fakeness of ALL parties, without exception. But this is not a feeling, but a reality
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 12 May 2020 19: 45 New
    +6
    The political system created in Russia is confidently opposed to the emergence of new parties and movements that could represent at least some kind of independence.


    And nothing more can be written. That says it all.
    Many people justifiably value the stability of the 1+ party system. And the elections now bear the same "unpredictable" character as the "sudden" training alert "the day after tomorrow at 22-00" in the SA.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 12 May 2020 19: 52 New
    +2
    Perhaps the opposition parties know what we do not know? Remember in the famous fairy tale Bagheera said to the lamb. “When the truce is over, it will be credited to you.” When the Communist Party of the Russian Federation leaves materialism, it becomes not entirely clear. In general, the legislative assembly is an exact copy of the State. Duma. 1917.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 12 May 2020 19: 58 New
    -1
    Over the past twenty years, not a single new political force has appeared in the country that could really declare itself, go to parliament, compete not even with the party in power, but with the “eternal" Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party.

    Let me guess by whose fairy-tale will this happens? The movement (party) “For New Socialism” N.N. is gaining real strength. Platoshkina.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 12 May 2020 20: 12 New
      0
      Quote: ROSS 42
      The movement (party) “For New Socialism” N.N. is gaining real strength. Platoshkina.

      Are you also a fountain of Balabol Platoshkin?
      1. Altona
        Altona 13 May 2020 00: 25 New
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        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        Are you also a fountain of Balabol Platoshkin?

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        Nikolai Nikolayevich sometimes says very correct things and is worth listening to, since he is a very erudite person. As for "nonsense", this is a feature of any social democracy — there are many words and little deed. That is why Lenin and the Bolshevik faction of the RSDLP (Social Democratic, mind you) have already switched to real work instead of all sorts of discussions and circles.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 13 May 2020 09: 58 New
          -1
          Quote: Altona
          Nikolai Nikolaevich sometimes says the very right things

          Well, he can’t lie openly all the time. Sometimes you need to tell the truth so that people believe.
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 13 May 2020 04: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        Are you also a fountain of Balabol Platoshkin?

        Who is the phonate?
        I will say bluntly that you, in all probability, are a fan of the “greatest” deeds and accomplishments of “United Russia” and an adorer of the promises and breakthroughs of the world famous “storyteller”, with the easy presentation of which the already rude life of the Russian people will not go into a new incarnation another five years ..
        One trouble, the opponents of Nikolai Nikolaevich in the meetings (debates) failed completely. And your “idol” still provides itself with ratings as an administrative resource (juggling the results of elections and polls), but in your life you have not held a single debate - disputes in which truth is born.
        Nikolai Platoshkin is the author of many monographs, textbooks and articles, including in such journals peer-reviewed by the Higher Attestation Commission as International Life, Military History Journal, and Journal of Foreign Law and Comparative Law. His dissertations are not plagiarized.
        And what did your “elite” publish? The Code of May Decrees? A Treatise of Economic Breakthroughs? “Late retirement theory of happiness”? "The fairy-tale dogma of the need to nullify the terms and amend the set of guarantees"?
        But you praise without fear of sin ... Anyway, everything is paid ...
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 13 May 2020 10: 18 New
          -1
          Quote: ROSS 42
          One trouble, the opponents of Nikolai Nikolayevich in the meetings (debates) failed completely.

          I watched his debate with Semin, which he shamefully leaked. All his arguments in which boiled down to aggressive demagogy and an attempt to shut up an opponent with ascribing to Semin all nonsense and outright rudeness.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Nikolai Platoshkin is the author of many monographs, textbooks and articles, including in such journals peer-reviewed by the Higher Attestation Commission as International Life, Military History Journal, and Journal of Foreign Law and Comparative Law. His dissertations are not plagiarized.

          So what? What gives a XNUMX% guarantee of infallibility and immediately provides high moral qualities? Do you at least try to comprehend what nonsense he brings and compare with what the classics of Marxism wrote and said. At least his pearls about the legal elections with which he was going to come to power. I don’t speak about the absence of a distinct economic program.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          And what did your “elite” publish?

          About as if against Platoshkin it means right behind EP. Let me tell you a terrible secret, your Platoshkin and EP are essentially the same thing. So you get us for EP.
  • eklmn
    eklmn 12 May 2020 20: 03 New
    +7
    The author, Ilya Polonsky, apparently has not lived in Russia for a long time. Otherwise, I would understand that parties exist to combat the dictatorship of one opinion, or, in Gorbachev’s way, for “pluralism of opinions”. Each party should have its own “style” - a look at the country's development, its economy, finances, social spending, pensions / hospitals / military expenses, etc. And through their media to convey their views / opinions to their citizens and if they like, they will support, but no, then there is no party. But “pluralism of opinions” is also expressed in criticism of another opinion or criticism of the existing decision. And here, just 1937. In Russia. The goalkeeper was fined for criticizing the rights of 1,4 million rubles !! For criticism !!! It’s good that they didn’t plant it, but then, in fact, the article exists !!! What kind of party pluralism of opinions can we talk about if this is the dictatorship of One Party !!!
    Ilya, author, where do you live?
    1. really
      really 12 May 2020 21: 08 New
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      If the author didn’t live in Russia, he would understand
      1. eklmn
        eklmn 12 May 2020 21: 11 New
        +1
        You are right - with logic I got a mistake !! wink
        1. really
          really 12 May 2020 21: 13 New
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          Standard wordings sometimes let us down drinks
    2. U-58
      U-58 13 May 2020 05: 07 New
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      You asked Ilya the wrong question. Not "where do you live", but How do you live?
      Being still determines consciousness.
      It is clear that the ruling regime does not exist in a vacuum. He completely relies on the support of 25-30% of the prosperous living population.
      The trouble is that this incomplete third of the electorate determines the life of the remaining 70%, usurping the rights to the FSE, including the right to the ultimate truth.
  • ABM
    ABM 12 May 2020 20: 14 New
    +2
    Yes, we need a new patriotic party!
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 12 May 2020 20: 40 New
      0
      I’m afraid that some patriotic patriots will not stand the country.
      1. U-58
        U-58 13 May 2020 05: 12 New
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        I suppose that will withstand.
        For under the guise of patriots, the ruling regime will populate the people with its OWN creation, completely loyal. Odinny figures will go into the shadows, and at the head will put someone like Poklonskaya.
        At the same time, the sheep will be full and the wolves are safe
    2. Altona
      Altona 12 May 2020 20: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: ABM
      Yes, we need a new patriotic party!

      ---------------------------
      The saddest thing is that many "new patriots" are also ready to sell the country only for less money, although this does not negate the super-greediness of the "old patriots".
      1. really
        really 12 May 2020 21: 33 New
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        Indeed, knocking down prices is not good, the phrase, our dear patriots, will sound a little false laughing
        1. Altona
          Altona 12 May 2020 21: 39 New
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          Quote: really
          Indeed, knocking down prices is not good, the phrase, our dear patriots, will sound a little false

          ------------------
          And in general, there is already a monopoly on "patriotism". It is said that the correct "patriotism" is not "leavened and musty", and sells well. It's not good to arrange cartel agreements behind your back. laughing
          1. really
            really 12 May 2020 21: 51 New
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            Just when the old are too expensive, you have to look for new, cheaper, only business .... wassat
            1. depressant
              depressant 13 May 2020 00: 07 New
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              Cool said, really, offset!
              1. really
                really 13 May 2020 06: 02 New
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                Thank you for your kind word. drinks
            2. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 13 May 2020 10: 22 New
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              Well, the crisis is economic. Cost reduction required. Yes, and an overabundance of patriotism in the market for the same reason.
    3. eklmn
      eklmn 13 May 2020 01: 27 New
      +1
      “Yes, we need a new patriotic party!”
      Here is the president_in_ law and offers to create it!
      (from MK)
      “Putin just gave an interview where he said that patriotism is the Russian national idea.
      PUTIN. “Patriotism consists in devoting oneself to the development of a country, its progress. And this does not mean at all that you need to grab all the time only for our heroic past. We need to look into our equally heroic and successful future. ”
      “He promised a heroic future. And where is heroism needed? Not a single one (in the wormwood after a drowning child or a burning house), but a massive one, which is promised to the whole country. Massive popular heroism is needed only in war. It is needed only in difficult times, in hopeless circumstances. Heroism necessarily requires sacrifice.
      .
      From the song “The Song Helps Us Build and Live ...”
      We will all get, understand and discover:
      The cold pole and the arch are blue.
      When a country be ordered by a hero,
      Anyone becomes a hero with us!
      This is an amazing phrase: "When the country orders, anyone becomes our hero." It’s not so easy to become a hero by order. And what does “country command” mean? A country (forests, fields and rivers, villages and cities, peasants, engineers, doctors and teachers) never orders such a thing. It orders a power that identifies itself with a country. Whether it is the emperor or the secretary general or the president, they are still people. They can order, but they are not a country. So let’s think what statement is closer to us: “When a country orders to be a hero, anyone becomes a hero with us” or “Is that country that needs heroes unhappy”? It was in the same 1930s that Bertolt Brecht, a great friend of the Soviet Union, wrote. He had to leave his homeland when the authorities ordered the Germans to become heroes. Starting in May 1945, they were no longer ordered to do so. ”
      If you understand something from this, then think - is a patriotic party needed? Or brains for power?
  • rocket757
    rocket757 12 May 2020 20: 16 New
    +2
    There is no such thing, absolutely impossible .... we just don’t know, we don’t know yet, or we’re not doing enough work.
    The time has passed when it was possible to "grab a sweet kusman" by simply scolding someone for something!
    To press on the ears of society is futile, a significant part of the population is deaf or does not believe in any slogans and promises!
    But on matters evaluated, will be evaluated and will be evaluated ALWAYS. Such is her life, without labor you won’t get a tail or scales.
  • Altona
    Altona 12 May 2020 20: 32 New
    +1
    Nevertheless, the police should not have touched Valery Fyodorovich Rashkin, since the deputy is inviolable. The deputy is the chosen one of the people. And the police in the picture obstructed Rashkin and his assistant. There is nothing wrong with coming out with the banner of Victory on Victory Day.
    In the country, by the way, there is a vacuum of power, the old Constitution was crushed, and the new one was not adopted. Without a nationwide discussion and referendum (not just a plebiscite), the Constitution will not be a legitimate document, since it lays the foundations of state power, and not nullifies one person with "generous" social handouts. As for the opposition, the non-systemic opposition raises its head.
    Fascism in the face of a major mayor who seeks to project his influence also raises his head. Federal ministers and some heads of territories have already rushed to his camp. There are already several points of political power that the author decided not to notice.
    By the way, Navalny's conditional movement (to the same MBKh and others moved aside) also approved cruel "quarantine" measures, albeit with a "helicopter" distribution of money, but in this case it is not this that is interesting, but approval of the restriction of the rights and freedoms of citizens. That is, the ball is being kicked into the same liberal goal, but with a slightly different sauce. And this is apparently in favor of the oligarchs, who are tired of the super "energy superpower" that "our partners" from the BV have recently reset.
    There is a conditionally left, but in fact the Social Democratic opposition in the person of the same Nikolai Platoshkin. Other leftists are trying to play on the same field, as well as national-patriotic forces advocating the strengthening of Russian industrial capital and the development of territories. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation represented by Zyuganov is also undergoing a transformation, since Zyuganov's agreement is clearly visible, and this is no longer explained by maneuvers alone in the legal field as "systemic opposition".
    1. depressant
      depressant 13 May 2020 00: 55 New
      0
      Yes, Altona ... Looks like it. Power vacuum. I don’t remember who exactly, but here, at VO, someone suggested that Putin’s address to the Federal Assembly so early in the season (January 15, not spring), and even with a humiliating proposal to reset the terms of his presidency, resignation governments - it was all like trying to thwart a conspiracy through the support of the people in the form of a vote on censorship. Apparently, that colleague was right. Sobyanin has confidently gained political weight among the governors, and now he has an implicit, but really existing party of "coronavirus". Sluggish, in fact, no internal policy of Putin is pretty boring to everyone. It hinders the development of the country and generally hinders. I would very much like to think the opposite, but no matter how hard I try, it does not work. And now he, as the head of the party of "correctionalists", expelled the people who had been financially lowered by him from self-isolation into the growing epidemic (be ill for your health!), In order to rely on him in voting on the amendments and thereby interrupt Sobyanin's power ambitions. The height of cruelty and cynicism.
      1. Altona
        Altona 13 May 2020 06: 32 New
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        Quote: depressant
        and now he has an implicit

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        In today's situation of complete political lack of will, the transition to fascism seems very attractive and justified. Even here, at the forum, voices are being heard in favor of the "great leader" if only to become "the greatest superpower" again. Only one thing is encouraging, money for fascism will also be plundered as money to disperse clouds over Moscow on May 9.
  • seacap
    seacap 12 May 2020 20: 32 New
    +9
    In my philistine idea, the last more or less semblance of parliament was shot from tanks by the outrageous Yeltsin group, stupefied with permissiveness and irresponsibility. And this is just an imitation of a pseudo-democratic institution for the plebs and the entourage, like we, like everyone else, have, here. And what they called the Duma is just a parasitic organization, absolutely not responsible for anything and in no way, with different departments, offices, seemingly as parties, the names are different, but the cash desk and accountant are the same, a kind of club by interests, as such there are no parties , there are functionaries appointed from above for the appearance of democracy, differently named. Their (the so-called deputies) servility is confirmed by the speed with which the so-called. anti-popular and destroying the state at the first demand from above, not even a demand, but simply even if these are thoughts aloud from the "Olympus". It is impossible to forget how they jumped up and applauded (it’s good at least they didn’t thump on their knees), when a shabby overseas deputy accidentally dropped in, making a mistake with the door, it’s interesting that the Senate would also react to our "stray". In order for at least something to change, in my opinion, it is necessary for the deputy to receive the median salary of his region, regular accountability, so that the voters of the region have the opportunity to revoke the mandate of their representative in the event of his unprofessionalism and inconsistency with duties, as well as based on the results of his work, access to the "body" for voters should be free at any time. And most importantly, the life and life of the people's choice should be determined by the laws that they adopted for the country, and not by their own laws for the upper class, housing and communal services, pension, etc. We do not elect boyars to the inherited estate, but representatives of the people, only they immediately sit down in a chair forget about it. For some reason, after the end of his term, the American president can return back to his workplace or look for a new one, but you can't knock out ours and the Olympus with a stick, once they get there, they only carry them out in a coffin.
    1. Altona
      Altona 12 May 2020 21: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: seacap
      And what was called the Duma is just a parasitic organization, absolutely not responsible for anything, with different departments

      --------------------
      The saddest thing is that the so-called deputies do not even write complex laws, but vote for "blanks" from the Presidential Administration, which in turn orders "law firms" to write them, and then simply vote. And this is for such big money.
    2. really
      really 12 May 2020 21: 57 New
      -1
      The American is trying to earn a name, and after a cadence or two, translate into money, or he has already earned to the presidency. In the second country, resignation is a threat to life, an imperial tradition.
  • AB
    AB 12 May 2020 20: 36 New
    -1
    Party? Which parties? There are clubs for financial interests. Each so-called party lobbies its interests and spits on the life of the common people from the Duma heights. And the whole non-systemic opposition is a bunch of people who want to break into financial flows. Well, who will allow them to power. There is never much money ...
  • zwlad
    zwlad 12 May 2020 20: 41 New
    0
    Glory to the CPSU (EP)
    Yes, disperse them all and send the released finances to the social network.
    So much dough can be saved in the elections
    1. tatra
      tatra 12 May 2020 21: 48 New
      0
      The most interesting thing is that those who equalize the CPSU and the United Russia "foaming at the mouth" prove how "and now it is better than under the Communists", BUT if you vote on the attitude to the CPSU and United Russia, none of you will be for the United Russia , and all will selflessly rush to malice against the CPSU. This is the essence of the enemies of the communists - not for each other and their anti-Soviet power, but all together against the communists and their supporters.
  • demo
    demo 12 May 2020 21: 06 New
    +7
    Of course, I understand that all three "mammoths" - Zyuganov, Mironov and Zhirinovsky are no longer the same age, and the brains, most likely, work "with a creak", but there are young people in the parties?
    How to earn points in your favor?
    Easily.
    Order a million or two million masks with the logo of the party and distribute to those in need.
    Contact the crisis headquarters with a proposal to send volunteers, party members to fight the virus and provide assistance to those in need.
    And it's all in the colors of the party, with flags and banners.
    Cars with party emblems travel around the districts and collect requests from "isolated" citizens.
    And every evening a report on the Internet - to whom, how much, when. And lists of those in need.
    Lord.
    It is so simple.
    But for me.
    And for the blockheads, who "stand for a day, but hold out for the night", in my opinion, they will not give birth to anything.
    1. Altona
      Altona 12 May 2020 21: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: demo
      It is so simple.
      But for me.

      -----------------------------------
      By the way, they tried to implement your idea. This, for example, is the "Alliance of Doctors", supervised by Navalny and like the Communist Party. But such attempts to distribute PPE and medicines free of charge or to transfer them to other territories were brutally suppressed by the police under the pretext of "violation of the self-isolation regime."
      1. demo
        demo 12 May 2020 21: 14 New
        0
        Whoever wants is looking for a way.
        Who does not want is looking for a reason.
        1. Altona
          Altona 12 May 2020 21: 15 New
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          Quote: demo
          Whoever wants is looking for a way.
          Who does not want is looking for a reason.

          --------------------
          Nevertheless, Anastasia Vasilyeva inherited from the police.
    2. U-58
      U-58 13 May 2020 05: 31 New
      -2
      There is nothing more complicated than simple. From your proposal, for all its understandability and attractiveness (and this is me seriously), the naivet of a young piglet (or child) blows.
      Here are the masks. Whether they are made in your version, they will immediately follow for burning. No scandals and extra noise. No matter how much you imagine Zyuganov a tame bear on a leash in power, he and his party are in constant and strict quarantine. They don’t give and will not give anything worthwhile. To avoid....
      These are the "democratic" realities of the current regime.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 12 May 2020 21: 24 New
    0
    Party? What is this ?. You have a supreme leader. You are not in the know?
    1. demo
      demo 12 May 2020 21: 27 New
      0
      Trolling counted. good
  • Shahno
    Shahno 12 May 2020 21: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: demo
    Trolling counted. good

    Yes, this is not trolling.
    What the hell are parties to you under the Supreme Leader?
    1. zwlad
      zwlad 12 May 2020 22: 26 New
      0
      So I think so too. What for. A pocket thought and SF what the hell? Only expenses are one for the state.
      For many centuries, one man has ruled in Russia. Leader of the state. There used to be a tsar, then Lenin, then Stalin, then other top officials of the CPSU. And Nitsche, the country developed itself until the reformers came and ruined it. Che, we are in front of the west creeping playing shit democracy. A strong leader is a strong country, a weak leader is a weak country and complete collapse. We need a strong vertical of power and we will be happy. But we will talk with the opposition like Nikolai 2 and the Bolsheviks are again profucing the country.
      Yes. I do not impose my opinions on anyone
      PS
      If during the reign of the CPSU there wouldn’t have been these incomprehensible demonstrations, it’s not clear what is incomprehensible to whom now I would not have organic rejection of them for the Communists
      1. Altona
        Altona 13 May 2020 00: 15 New
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        Quote: zwlad
        A strong leader is a strong country, a weak leader is a weak country and complete collapse. We need a strong vertical of power and we will be happy. But we will talk with the opposition like Nikolai 2 and the Bolsheviks are again profucing the country.

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        Is a strong leader who is being puffed up on television or who makes strong decisions in favor of the whole society? And even more so enjoys the authority of the majority.
        The second question: "lisp" is to sausage any discontent, even if it is fully justified?
        The third question: What does it mean to "profuse the country"? When money and natural resources are calmly exported, does this mean not "profiting the country", but "patriotic" doing business?
        In general, your theses are not entirely clear. From the outside, all this looks like a philistine desire for a "strong hand and the Fuehrer", no matter which one, if only he would shut his mouths for any reason.
        The late CPSU was a very complex phenomenon. At the top are leaders who are degenerating into bourgeois, below are a mass of honest communists who believe that we are going right. When the degenerates finally took control of the party, then the dismantling of the country began. This is very exaggerated of course. Why you didn’t have a rejection, there simply wasn’t such flashy luxury yet, it appeared a bit later.
        1. zwlad
          zwlad 13 May 2020 08: 25 New
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          1. Which makes strong decisions, for example, the restoration of the Armed Forces, the Navy (and hence the industry), Crimea, Syria, the Arctic.
          2. Not to lisp it means to crush in the bud such revolutionaries as the Bolsheviks, Socialist-Revolutionaries, the organizers of Bolotnaya and other similar "protests". Do you want to change
          3. Foul the country-as it is Nicholas 2 and the late CPSU fouled, there was an empire remained a piece.
          "Why didn’t you have rejection, there wasn’t just such a flashy luxury, it appeared a little later." - and I don't see any luxury in our region. and Moscow for me, excuse me, is a different country.
          1. Altona
            Altona 13 May 2020 09: 00 New
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            Quote: zwlad
            1. Which makes strong decisions, for example, the restoration of the Armed Forces, the Navy (and hence the industry), Crimea, Syria, the Arctic.
            2. Not to lisp it means to crush in the bud such revolutionaries as the Bolsheviks, Socialist-Revolutionaries, the organizers of Bolotnaya and other similar "protests". Do you want to change
            3. Foul the country-as it is Nicholas 2 and the late CPSU fouled, there was an empire remained a piece.
            "Why didn’t you have rejection, there wasn’t just such a flashy luxury, it appeared a little later." - and I don't see any luxury in our region. and Moscow for me, excuse me, is a different country.

            --------------------------------
            Let's start from the end? 1.
            1. If the capital is another country, then the rest of the country is apparently a colony for the capital.
            2. Why Nicholas 2 and the late Communist Party of the Soviet Union profaned, please open the reasons.
            3. How was the Navy restored? The only aircraft-carrying cruiser is incapable of combat, frigates have been built for years. And to what extent was it restored? To the scale of the Soviet? Industry? Hmm, I work in it myself, I see how it "developed".
            4. Crimea, Syria, the Arctic? In Syria, it is not clear what. There was a military base in Crimea before that, with the help of which, in principle, it was easy to attach. The Arctic and icebreakers have also been since Soviet times.
            5. There is no greater revolutionary than the government itself, it creates signs of a revolutionary situation - poverty, collapse of government and so on. No Bolsheviks or Martians will do this. To crush protests? That is, to beat the dissatisfied? Well, what if tomorrow the power changes and you are beaten? Or "what for us"? Didn't Bloody Sunday 1905 teach you anything?
            1. zwlad
              zwlad 13 May 2020 09: 37 New
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              Well, let's from the end.
              1. Where do we have signs of a revolutionary situation? The current fermentation is a consequence of the fact that someone pinched the tail. Where is poverty? I look out the window, some foreign cars on the road. Housing is being built a lot, apparently for show. There’s nobody to buy it (with poverty then). Yes, with retirees the situation is bad. So fix it. Put together a batch. Unite like-minded people to achieve a majority in parliament and change laws. But the revolutionaries, but to crush in the bud so that the country is not rocked.
              2. Crimea could easily be fooled if only Navalny and Sobchaki were at the helm. If I am not mistaken they were against joining. Syria is a base for the fleet and a testing ground for armaments and intelligence acquisition of weapons partners. This has always been the case with the USSR. Those icebreakers that have been since the days of the USSR have long been scrapped. Need a replacement, the development of the Arctic is now an influx of budget money in 10-15 years. New icebreakers are jobs for hundreds of thousands of people.
              3. The only aircraft carrier cruiser is time to write off, but this is the image of the country. and so he is not able to become the heart of AUG. And why do we need in the foreseeable future AUG as the states? Our BTA is capable of delivering a landing almost anywhere. It is very difficult to restore industry to the level of the USSR in a decade and a half of collapse without resorting to Stalinist methods. but nobody wants this. truth? But new enterprises are being built in our region, and these are new jobs.
              4. Why is Nicholas 2 profiled? Because he did not strangle the revolutionaries financed by the West in time. Because it got into a war that Russia did not need. Well, in the USSR everything is quite simple. It is better to be the first person in a small independent country than it is not clear to anyone in a vast empire.
              5. Well, in our region a lot of people think so.
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 13 May 2020 22: 36 New
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                Quote: zwlad
                It is very difficult to restore industry to the level of the USSR in a decade and a half of collapse without resorting to Stalinist methods. but nobody wants this. truth?

                What does an outstanding economist mean by Stalinist methods? I'd love to hear. Suddenly a miracle will happen and it will not be the nonsense that is usually carried.
                Quote: zwlad
                Why is Nikolai 2 profiled? Because he did not strangle the revolutionaries financed by the West in time.

                How simple it is for you, all the problems in the country and the crisis of the system do not care, the main thing is to pick up the revolutionaries.
                Quote: zwlad
                Well, in the USSR everything is quite simple. It is better to be the first person in a small independent country than it is not clear to anyone in a vast empire.

                It is rather a consequence. The main cause of the problem in the economy.
                1. zwlad
                  zwlad 13 May 2020 23: 30 New
                  -1
                  I’m never an economist and even not outstanding.
                  methods? make work work, work and work again. put talented people at key places and strictly ask them. Dissent to Siberia. did not manage - there too.
                  Why not buy and copy. can't copy - buy production.
                  By the way. I didn’t drink with you at the Brudershaft.
                  And about the main reasons for the collapse of the USSR, apparently you can tell us here once
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  It is rather a consequence. The main cause of the problem in the economy.
              2. Altona
                Altona 14 May 2020 06: 32 New
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                Quote: zwlad
                4. Why is Nicholas 2 profiled? Because he did not strangle the revolutionaries financed by the West in time. Because it got into a war that Russia did not need. Well, in the USSR everything is quite simple. It is better to be the first person in a small independent country than it is not clear to anyone in a vast empire.
                5. Well, in our region a lot of people think so.

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                The brilliant answer of an unknowing person.
                1. Nicholas 2 overthrew his own environment, at least revered history. It will be the same with the current king, he will be overthrown by the conspirators from above and everything is already ready there. That is, you will weigh sticks to ordinary citizens who are simply unhappy. And you certainly won’t touch the big fish, just out of cowardly bourgeois motives. Even Lenin doubted that he would be able to accomplish anything, and in 1917 the cat was crying, 4 or 5 thousand people were crying all over Russia.
                2. You want to put "capable people" in key places. The trouble is that talented people are not paid here, and they will not work with you. Not with you personally, but with people with your conditioned thinking.
                3. I do not see new industrial enterprises, and those that are barely surviving. Foreign cars on credit bought from those I know. Jobs garbage is full, they pay a penny.
                4. As for the conditional Sobchak, who spoke out against Crimea, it’s just rhetoric in opposition. And by the way, an attempt to explain the problems in the economy by the great-power Wishlist.
                In general, if you have a beautiful picture before your eyes as you described, then let it be. I have a slightly different picture.
                1. zwlad
                  zwlad 14 May 2020 08: 54 New
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                  1. History is a strange thing, under the USSR we were taught one thing, under EBN it already became different, under Putin it became the third. and I interpret it in my own way based on my experience. Further. Nobody will overthrow Putin, do not carry nonsense. When the time comes, he will be replaced by another person, and the course will remain.
                  But Nicholas 2 was overthrown and the country went in a completely different direction. Feel the difference.
                  2. None of these capable under Stalin asked whether they want to work with someone specifically. (read at least some question the answer was)
                  3. I do not know where you live; I live in sunny Mordovia. And only in the last 3 years we have opened several enterprises. Moreover, built from scratch. Issuing knowledge-intensive and import-substituting products. (if it’s interesting to google what we have built, I’m too lazy) I generally keep quiet about the agricultural complex, as in almost every district we have holdings that produce basic food products, poultry, meat, eggs, milk and all milk, cheeses, etc. The republic on food is not only self-sufficient, but also lucky in other regions.
                  about foreign cars on credit. yes on credit. only in my environment for 3 years all pay for them. at the same time in the summer calmly go on vacation in the summer.
                  You just need to work and not whine about the difficulties.
                  4.
                  Quote: Altona
                  As for the conditional Sobchak, who spoke out against Crimea, it’s just rhetoric in opposition.

                  do not tell me, the position against the government, even if it is right, is frankly stupid. and with stupid people I am not on the way.
                  I'm taking my leave on the sim
                  1. Altona
                    Altona 15 May 2020 08: 28 New
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                    Quote: zwlad
                    3. I do not know where you live; I live in sunny Mordovia. And only in the last 3 years we have opened several enterprises.

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                    I live nearby, in sunny Chuvashia. As for "several enterprises have opened", this is probably how several enterprises were closed. In general, you have video blogger Andrei Semenov sitting in Saransk, I periodically watch his channel, I do not agree with him in everything, but he sees a slightly different picture and he thinks almost like me about the industry. And he has about 50 thousand subscribers. So some of you are lying. Considering that there are 50 thousand subscribers who agree with him, then most likely you are lying.
                    1. zwlad
                      zwlad 15 May 2020 09: 36 New
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                      I am glad that the video blogger Semenov has 50 thousand subscribers. Willingly I believe that all video bloggers speak and publish the truth and only the truth! Apparently, he doesn’t just write, but gives some figures, facts, events.
                      However, there is such a good site, called for an honest business. and so it contains all the relevant financial information for most Russian enterprises. There you can see all the main enterprises of Mordovia. I won’t give a list, if you find it interesting yourself. And as for the other picture, I will say this, the picture is always the same, just looking at it from different angles, you will see different things.
                      Quote: Altona
                      Given that 50 thousand subscribers who agree with him, you are most likely lying.

                      to prove to you that I’m not lying, I will not, it’s not interesting to me. Want to convict me of a lie - go ahead!
      2. U-58
        U-58 13 May 2020 05: 36 New
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        Heh! That is, you need a strong leader. Be it the king or the secretary general. If only strong.
        Great Mighty Cliff, sparkling Fight with a foot in the sky, Living until cars disappear ©
        1. zwlad
          zwlad 13 May 2020 08: 32 New
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          Give an example of a prosperous, dynamically developing country with a weak leader (precisely under him), whom the entire opposition, as it were more correctly put it, twirls as it wants.
          1. U-58
            U-58 13 May 2020 08: 41 New
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            Well, I will give you two examples. And what, your point of view will change ?.
            Your position will remain the same, so do not ...
            Moreover, the point is not in the leader, but in the dominant system.
            1. zwlad
              zwlad 13 May 2020 08: 49 New
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              And that our system is very different? We are politically now somewhere in the 30s of the last century of capitalism, if not at all the year before. And we still need a more stable system to go and go. The question is where do we get, capitalism ala Europe, or capitalism ala China.
              In any case, you must go straight and not staggering.

              All the same, you give an example, in order to improve education (as it were)
              1. U-58
                U-58 13 May 2020 09: 54 New
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                Switzerland. What do you know about the power of the politicians who lead the country?
                I don’t know anything.
                Italy. I can not say anything about the weaknesses of the prime ministers. But the speed and ease with which governments change in Italy prevent politicians from displaying all their political power.
                However, both countries are quite prosperous, because the system of power operates there - political, economic, military, and indeed all.
                1. zwlad
                  zwlad 13 May 2020 10: 33 New
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                  Thanks for the examples!
                  There these systems were formed well for a very long time.
                  And in only one century we had 3 changes of power.
                  And Italy is not quite an independent state.
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 13 May 2020 21: 05 New
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                    Quote: zwlad
                    And Italy is not quite an independent state.

                    and Switzerland is so direct sovereign that everyone is jealous ??? !!! what laughing
                    1. zwlad
                      zwlad 13 May 2020 21: 51 New
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                      Switzerland generally weigh in itself. As Hitler did not gut her, I generally wonder. There are so many interesting things stored in banks. What if everything accidentally opens up a lot of extremely unpleasant will come out.
                      But as an example, a country will do just fine.
                      But we will go the other way
                      1. Nikolai Grek
                        Nikolai Grek 14 May 2020 02: 33 New
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                        Quote: zwlad
                        But as an example, a country will do just fine.

                        c'mon ... you don’t even have your own language !!! wassat it exists as long as there is no serious schucher ... with large-scale kneading and even with a slight desire of any of the influential parties, Switzerland will cease to exist in a matter of hours !!! request wink
                      2. zwlad
                        zwlad 14 May 2020 07: 28 New
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                        it does not matter. I asked for an example he gave. Everything is fair
                      3. Nikolai Grek
                        Nikolai Grek 14 May 2020 17: 58 New
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                        Quote: zwlad
                        it does not matter. I asked for an example he gave. Everything is fair

                        so needed an example of a country, not a dubious territorial entity !!! wink wassat
                      4. zwlad
                        zwlad 14 May 2020 20: 07 New
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                        weird. And on all maps it is indicated as a sovereign state. Come on, don’t cling to a person
                2. Altona
                  Altona 15 May 2020 08: 30 New
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                  Quote: zwlad
                  As Hitler did not gut her, I generally wonder. There are so many interesting things stored in banks.

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                  Hitler was allowed to gut only what was allowed. Switzerland was needed as a platform for negotiations and other matters. Anyway, why touch a country with a fully complementary population? The same as Austria.
          2. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 13 May 2020 21: 06 New
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            Quote: U-58
            Switzerland. What do you know about the power of the politicians who lead the country?
            I don’t know anything.
            Italy. I can not say anything about the weaknesses of the prime ministers. But the speed and ease with which governments change in Italy prevent politicians from displaying all their political power.
            However, both countries are quite prosperous, because the system of power operates there - political, economic, military, and indeed all.

            howeveroooooooo ... no wonder you were embarrassed to give an example !!! wink laughing
  • Ivan Kolodin
    Ivan Kolodin 12 May 2020 22: 20 New
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    It’s just that you don’t get on our TV, everything is on the Internet as from May 9 people turn red flags worse than in Ukraine ... We all ended up with a broken trough ....
    We take the period of our country 1921-1941 and 2000-2020 and here and there we have 20 years of development and what are the results of the modern period .... As we were told, the Pechenegs are to blame .... That we have optimized medicine and the economy for one .. And indeed, everything except the rocking of gas and oil ... Although here now it will have to be reduced ....
    1. seacap
      seacap 12 May 2020 22: 35 New
      +1
      and most importantly, they started with the "optimization" of the once great power, the difference is that then in the 20s they started from nothing to progress to the greatest power, and in the 90s regression from a power to a semi-colonial country with a "pipe" and external control of the economy ...
  • zwlad
    zwlad 12 May 2020 22: 58 New
    +2
    Minusers - there is no desire to justify what is wrong?
    1. Virus-free crown
      Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 23: 46 New
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      Quote: zwlad
      Minusers - there is no desire to justify what is wrong?

      I didn’t minus you - but I think the point is that over the 20 years of Stalin’s rule (1929 - collectivization - people with a plow and horses) and 1949 - the USSR already with a "vigorous loaf and won the Second World War) = this is one thing ...
      And 2000 was a rampant crime, there was nothing for the people to eat - it was replaced by 2020 for a power rampant, and there was nothing for the people to eat anyway - here many people start to wonder if you are right in your statements - that's why, I think, they put you cons recourse
      1. zwlad
        zwlad 13 May 2020 07: 16 New
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        Well I do not know. Thanks to this revelry, our factory is still afloat and the production growth was somewhere around% 120 over 3 years. And last year, 4 billion people did and feeds 3000 rubles. Although not black caviar.
        1. Altona
          Altona 15 May 2020 08: 33 New
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          Quote: zwlad
          Well I do not know. Thanks to this revelry, our factory is still afloat and the production growth was somewhere around% 120 over 3 years. And last year, 4 billion people did and feeds 3000 rubles. Although not black caviar.

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          What kind of plant is this? Not a Ruzayevsky car building? Did you do 1000 wagons in about a year?
          1. zwlad
            zwlad 15 May 2020 09: 17 New
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            No. Electric rectifier. Ruzayevsky car building 25 km from us. I won’t say about 1000 cars, but what they did a lot, yes, the head at the bottom of the machine builder said
            1. Altona
              Altona 15 May 2020 09: 59 New
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              Quote: zwlad
              Electric rectifier.

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              A lot of people work for you. Now there are almost no such enterprises, we have reduced to a maximum of 500 people for all, and there were also 2000-5000 people with the number of enterprises.
              1. zwlad
                zwlad 15 May 2020 10: 22 New
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                We have minimal automation of production, a large number of manual assembly work, a lot of unique unique products, so there are so many people
                we had 11000 people once
                1. Altona
                  Altona 15 May 2020 10: 34 New
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                  Quote: zwlad
                  We have minimal automation of production

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                  I understand that, because by installing one CNC lathe, I conditionally "knock out" two highly qualified turners, instead of them, you can put more or less sensible young "Buratin", and one can be taught to write simple programs for the machine and bind to zero. Of course, no one dismisses the universal turners, they just do more complex work, then you will find figs. And a CNC machine will simply more accurately squander space for a bearing, for example, on a simple bushing or flange.
                  1. zwlad
                    zwlad 15 May 2020 10: 43 New
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                    No, you misunderstood. Automation is not always possible to use.
                    And so, CNC machines, laser systems, waterjet cutting - all this is there. But this is all procurement production, so to speak, for the manufacture of all kinds of frame casings and other iron.
                    A large number of people are employed in continuous semiconductor manufacturing. This is a cycle from obtaining monocrystalline silicon to reaching the "mountain" of power diodes, thyristors, etc.
                    And then all this must be gathered together, tested. All manual labor.
                    Plus two research and engineering centers. So 3000 people are running
                    1. Altona
                      Altona 15 May 2020 10: 52 New
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                      Quote: zwlad
                      A large number of people are employed in continuous semiconductor manufacturing. This is a cycle from obtaining monocrystalline silicon to reaching the "mountain" of power diodes, thyristors, etc.

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                      It is very strange that you are still alive as one. They try to break up such productions into several firms.
                      1. zwlad
                        zwlad 15 May 2020 11: 01 New
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                        Well, somehow it happened that they remained one
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 13 May 2020 02: 26 New
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    Our political parties have long been overgrown with moss and lichens. The "leaders" have grown old and overgrown with fat businesses and, of course, loads of compromising evidence, which in case of anything .. On the other hand, you don't even need a stick, and a big carrot too - they unfasten them, they serve, playing in democracy. They don't play very well, Stanislavsky would say "I DO NOT BELIEVE!" , but ordinary citizens to whom domestic TV enters the easy one are unpretentious, neither in terms of the plot, nor in terms of the game. At one time, people also saw enough of the epic transformation of a fair part of the Central Committee of the CPSU and former fiery Komsomol members - and concluded that all these fiery speeches, etc., are a kind of spells or a marriage ritual, in general, this is a kind of performance, but not an effective procedure for change of power. Will there be a change? No, there will be no change for the majority of the inhabitants of our country) Uncle Zyu and "Zhirik" have long become media persons a la Alla Pugacheva and Philip Kirkorov (or Leonid Yakubovich, for example).
    The hope is for those who are + - 30, and those are a minority and they are pretty apolitical - they have no time for politics, they cut $$$. A significant part of them tacitly support the party in power - because these are state employees and they are afraid of some kind of radical changes. Those who are not afraid - have no idea how to conduct political activities, because by their nature and way of thinking they are pure "sprinters" with clip thinking - they need a kind of Navalny, but stylistically close to Putin, so that they are both driving and at the same time decent and somewhat conservative ( and young, of course). There are none, so we are waiting for Sobchak, Prokhorov, Titov, etc., in general, "intrigue."
  • Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 13 May 2020 05: 20 New
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    The reason for the lack of political life in the country is one of the leaders of the parliamentary opposition, old grandfathers, pensioners. For them, the best thing is to sit on a bench in the park in silence, and not in this park at a rally to rip a throat. The salary is not weak, there is a pension, so they go with the flow. I have nothing against the elderly. But they cannot repeat the deed of Pavka Korchagin (not literally). And yet, to be completely honest, he has worked in a high-level leadership post for more than a dozen years, to put it mildly, Bronze. He believes that nothing needs to be changed, because it works. He is the most intelligent, wise and infallible.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 May 2020 06: 46 New
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    All these comrades are already living quite well, so why should they fuss if this does not bring additional dividends? What are you talking about? All of them are opportunists, have found a warm place and live, live, neither grief nor trouble. About to change something in the country, and at least the economic structure, you have to fuss, run around, put forward theories and demands on the authorities and on oneself. Look for new people with a head and new ideas, substantiate your vision of the political and economic situation in the country and the world, and much more. They are already old, they just have another stagnation.
  • Felix Chuykov
    Felix Chuykov 13 May 2020 08: 08 New
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    From the Soviet Information Bureau

    Fascism and other faces
    Submissive only to Soviet power!

    Felix Chuykov

    09 February 2019 year
  • Growlers
    Growlers 13 May 2020 09: 44 New
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    Gentlemen who grew up under the CPSU are accustomed to seeing the image of the party, albeit with ugly remnants inherited from the time of Khrushchev, but still a party. What the author and everyone else take for "parties" are just business projects. All of them are created with a specific purpose, such as the Russian Orthodox Church or the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. Basically they are interested in money, power, influence, which you will agree does not correspond to the declared goals. It is not for nothing that I named these two organizations. The Russian Orthodox Church is primarily interested in money and behind-the-scenes power, again which makes it possible to earn money, too saints are carried away by money and power. They were "earning extra money" until the split of Orthodoxy, the dominance of private American "churches" in Russia, to which they are losing the battle for souls in full. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation quietly exists on state subsidies and I am not afraid of this word, on the trade in deputy mandates, otherwise why so many scandals and odious persons with party tickets. Many people are misled by speculation on communist slogans and symbols. But the petty-bourgeois essence of both the party and its leaders cannot be hidden. Yes, and there is no movement forward, both in the political party of the Russian Orthodox Church and in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, which means that the "leaders" are satisfied with their income and their status. In the rest of the so-called "parties" everything is the same, if not worse, because many exist only at the expense of foreign financial and propaganda resources.
  • Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 13 May 2020 18: 47 New
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    Yes, all these parties are just a circus for the people.
    Our government, it is not in Russia at all and is not for Russia.
    Here is a little about the communists.
    https://youtu.be/nNkEam4Hfys
  • aglet
    aglet 13 May 2020 18: 51 New
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    Quote: Corona without virus
    When do you tell VO readers what the Communists proposed to do for the people, and how the Edrovites responded to this

    offer is the easiest. to achieve the result is difficult, you need to work. so they offer, they raise their rating, and you are being conducted
  • aglet
    aglet 13 May 2020 18: 58 New
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    Quote: zwlad
    I look out the window, some foreign cars on the road. Housing is being built a lot, apparently for show. There’s nobody to buy it (with poverty then)

    let’s specify credit foreign cars, we don’t have ours anymore. and have you bought a house for a long time, or do you still live in your grandmother’s apartment?
    1. zwlad
      zwlad 13 May 2020 21: 58 New
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      I AM? In 2004, I took 69 kVM kopeck on a mortgage. Already paid. Two of my siblings also bought an apartment somewhere in the apartment somewhere in 2011 and another odnushka in 2013. If my sulerosis doesn’t change me, they paid too. And for what purpose are you interested in?
  • aglet
    aglet 13 May 2020 19: 01 New
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    Quote: zwlad
    In any case, you must go straight and not staggering.

    it’s impossible to lead us astray, we don’t care where to go.
  • aglet
    aglet 13 May 2020 19: 03 New
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    Quote: zwlad
    Thanks to this revelry, our factory is still afloat and the production growth was somewhere around% 120 over 3 years.

    But what does your factory produce, can I find out? what growth rates are deafening, as if he is making gold from the air, no?
    1. zwlad
      zwlad 13 May 2020 20: 17 New
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      Quote: aglet
      But what does your factory produce, can I find out? what growth rates are deafening, as if he is making gold from the air, no?

      Power semiconductor devices and converting equipment based on them. As it is now fashionable to say high-tech and partially non-analogous products in the world. The Russian analogue of the German Infineon and Siemens.
      Here is a report on the financial results for 4 years if interested https://zachestnyibiznes.ru/company/ul/1021301064950_1325013893_PAO-ELEKTROVYPRYaMITELY/balance
      In my opinion, I even slightly downplayed

      Another company of ours
      https://zachestnyibiznes.ru/company/ul/1021301062760_1327153649_OOO-SARANSKKABELY-OPTIKA/balance
  • Dr. Hub
    Dr. Hub 14 May 2020 05: 00 New
    +1
    Parties in Russia have become decorative (aware of the appearance of democracy and multi-party system). In fact, one party remained. Democracy, as such, ceased to exist. Democracy requires at least two equal parties in order to have a system of checks and balances. In our case, we have no choice but to go where one leader and one party lead. How to name what in our country I don’t already know. Totalitarianism? Stagnation? Maybe something else, but certainly not democracy - the power of the people
  • fif21
    fif21 14 May 2020 07: 23 New
    -1
    Either we cannot live a day without a government, or without parties. Is this so? The ruling party has done so much "good" for the people, adopted so many "good" laws that I want to take everything back and divide it up again. hi
  • Andrey Prusakov
    Andrey Prusakov 14 May 2020 09: 59 New
    -1
    I don’t know if there is a party in Russia that is more hated and despised by the population than EP. It is interesting that she herself has long been parallel to the opinion of the population, for her there is only one opinion - the opinion of the president.
    1. zwlad
      zwlad 14 May 2020 20: 14 New
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      All markers are different in taste and color. For example, I hate and despise the Communist Party more strongly. Some of the LDPR also applies. And by and large, they are all former commies and Komsomol members who just got out of hand and their children
  • Puhly67
    Puhly67 14 May 2020 23: 44 New
    +1
    .. PANDEMIA !!!! .. and we sell disposable masks for 50 rubles each. it is the same. what to sell tickets at a bomb shelter. during the war............
  • Valery Kalashnikov
    Valery Kalashnikov 15 May 2020 22: 00 New
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    And who needs them besides themselves, we have what Europe the USA will say and China is good for us, and the rest is from the evil one.
  • Thomas the Unbelieving
    Thomas the Unbelieving 17 May 2020 17: 49 New
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    The author has lost sight of the most important thing. The CEC website publishes financial reports of all parties. I will not give everything, and I’m too lazy to climb into the reports for the last year. I give the official data for 2018 on the sources of funds of parliamentary parties.
    EP: membership fees-225 million; federal budget-4bn.336mln; donations - 2 billion. 550 million rubles.
    Communist Party: membership fees-957 million rubles federal budget-2bn. 383 mln .: donations-148,7 mln.
    LDPR; membership fees-88 thousand! The federal budget is 1 billion 727 million; donations are 4,9 million rubles.
    If we take into account the frantic salaries of deputies and the fact that half goes on the lists (donations?), Then the question of “political” parties in our country should be removed from the agenda in order to deal with their problems of sharing and redistributing taxpayer money.