Virus of the political system: where Russian parties "disappeared"


In recent months, the country's political parties have almost disappeared from the Russian information space. They are practically not mentioned about them, their leaders are not quoted, and the population remembers their existence less and less.


Pandemic and the media crisis of Russian parties


In fact, the attention to parliamentary and non-parliamentary political parties and organizations from both the population and the media is directly proportional to their real impact on society and participation in political decision-making. Just these figures among Russian parties were declining every year. The built-up system with one “party in power” and several parties of the “parliamentary opposition” has made itself felt: the population has become disillusioned with the existing political organizations, but new, really efficient ones have not emerged in recent years.

In fact, if you do not take into account "United Russia", the modern Russian party system is a continuation of the one that prevailed in Yeltsin Russia. Over the past twenty years, not a single new political force has appeared in the country that could really express itself, go to parliament, compete not even with the party in power, but with the “eternal" Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party.

The ongoing fight against the coronavirus pandemic further widened the media gap between political parties and executive bodies. Decision-making on counteracting the spread of coronavirus, on anti-crisis measures, and assistance to the population is entirely the responsibility of the executive authorities of the federal and regional levels. Therefore, almost all the attention of the media focused on the president, government, and regional leaders.

But parties already have no room for maneuver: they cannot do more than the executive branch to fight the coronavirus, and denying the need for sanitary measures is stupid and even fraught with problems. Another thing is that not one of the Russian political parties has voiced an original and feasible program to lead the country out of the economic and social crisis caused by the pandemic. This means either that the parties have nothing to offer because of the lack of analytical work, or that the parties have no reason to offer anything, since the imperious majority will nevertheless act as it sees fit and will not consult with smaller political parties.

The decrease in the information activity of Russian parties is also due to the fact that the country's political field has long been divided. Everyone understands that United Russia remains the party in power, and it will remain so. As for the SR, LDPR, the Communist Party and less significant parties, their electorates have also been formed for a long time and it is unlikely that any large-scale changes will be expected in this regard.



The parties didn’t take their last chance?


The political system created in Russia is confidently opposed to the emergence of new parties and movements that could represent at least some kind of independence. Neither the alternative Communist Party of the Left, nor the nationalists (in the patriotic sense of the word), nor the notorious “bulk players” are not allowed into the State Duma. Some elements of activity can be observed at the regional and municipal levels, but everything is connected there rather than with parties, but with specific politicians who enjoy respect and fame in their regions, try to do something and play their part in strengthening the positions of their parties or movements.

Interestingly, the period of the economic crisis and the associated deterioration in the social well-being of citizens is a great chance for the opposition (not a bunch of balabol, but a real active opposition, ready to work precisely for the good of the country) to gain points. But the Russian parties are not taking any serious action in this direction.

“One-time” actions like attempts to hold May Day demonstrations in a number of regions did not count, and not a single political party presented any systemic agenda. Moreover, the same Communist Party rallies on May 1 and May 9 in a number of regions of the country looked rather strange, given that for the sake of street pickets and rallies the Communists violated the declared self-isolation regime, which led, for example, to Rostov-on-Don to draw up more than 40 protocols for the participants of the May Day rally. Such actions do not look serious, especially against the background of general social tension in the country.

Of course, to say that the pandemic was the beginning of the end of the "old" Russian political parties is not worth it, because their influence and activity are largely supported artificially and do not reflect the real situation in society. But it is difficult to disagree with the fact that the former political parties are indeed becoming obsolete and the political future of Russian society will be associated with the emergence of new political forces, and possibly with new ideologies and organizational models. I would like these models to work for the development of Russia, to improve the well-being of the people, to increase the level of social responsibility of the authorities themselves.
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  1. tanki-tanki 12 May 2020 18: 27 New
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    Thank you for the article.
    1. Malyuta 12 May 2020 18: 38 New
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      To date, the parties, in my opinion, have turned into circles of financial interests, and the very concept of "party" is absolutely discounted.
      1. SRC P-15 12 May 2020 18: 42 New
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        Virus of the political system: where Russian parties "disappeared"

        It is known where: they are all on self-isolation. yes Interestingly, these parties do not need to spend money on buying masks - they are always in them.
        1. Doccor18 12 May 2020 18: 59 New
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          Not in them, but on them.
          1. Doccor18 12 May 2020 18: 59 New
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            Not medical.
            1. SRC P-15 12 May 2020 19: 06 New
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              Quote: Doccor18
              Not in them, but on them.

              Even so, though, but the result is one: the mask peels off them when they are stroked against the coat.
        2. Private89 17 May 2020 09: 14 New
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          All these parties are a game of thimbles with the public. All these parties do not represent the interests of the people.
      2. Ilya-spb 12 May 2020 18: 46 New
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        Where did the parties disappear?

        They remembered that there can only be one party. And we must adhere to the general line of the party and its Leader (((
        1. 210ox 12 May 2020 19: 23 New
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          But it’s interesting. What are these “other ideologies”?
      3. Valery Valery 12 May 2020 18: 51 New
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        In my opinion, an institution called a PARTY must meet one of three requirements:
        - a well-developed theory, if you want ideology, at the level of philosophy
        - protection of the interests of any of the classes or sections of society
        - party leaders attracting attention with extravagant antics of action.

        On the first two points we have a complete zero. And there is Zhirinovsky and his LDPR.

        Sad .....
        1. Beringovsky 12 May 2020 19: 27 New
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          As for the second paragraph, Edra has complete order with him. They defend the interests of a particular layer quite consistently.
          Ideology is also there - anti-Soviet.
          Well, their informal leader, our Guarantor, was noted for various extravagant antics, from flying with Siberian Cranes to underwater archeology. Aug, how he looks on a horse! fellow
    2. smart ass 12 May 2020 19: 03 New
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      Here is the answer to the question "who if not Putin?" if the parties are strangled in the bud, where does the alternative leader come from?
      1. nikon7717 13 May 2020 19: 55 New
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        Recall the history of any party that came to power. At some point in history, it becomes profitable in the struggle of various interests in the country, internal and external. He receives support, finance, media, up to the military. Redistribution occurs. When were there cases of idealistic parties coming to power with one support from the people?
  2. Cowbra 12 May 2020 18: 28 New
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    It’s just that the crisis has shown that all these “political parties” are corny useless. Throat tearing on the squares, criticizing the "bad power" unfounded - they can do it. But in a situation where concrete measures are needed - let it be SUGGESTIONS for specific measures - they have nothing to say simply. Generally. Hello to all the local libshiz, which I have repeatedly said all this)))
    1. Mavrikiy 12 May 2020 18: 52 New
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      Right.
      the emergence of new parties and movements that could represent at least some kind of independence.
      What independence? Platoshkin and Prilepin - for all good versus all bad. There are no economic programs, except for all rents from the national wealth, one policy is "down."
    2. Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 18: 56 New
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      Quote: Cowbra
      It’s just that the crisis has shown that all these “political parties” are corny useless. Throat tearing on the squares, criticizing the "bad power" unfounded - they can do it. But in a situation where concrete measures are needed - let it be SUGGESTIONS for specific measures - they have nothing to say simply. Generally. Hello to all the local libshiz, which I have repeatedly said all this)))

      https://newdaynews.ru/moscow/691710.html

      read - the communists offered to give out masks to the people for FREE - and the United Russia responded that the people were snickering wassat
      1. Ruslan67 12 May 2020 19: 06 New
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        Quote: Crown without virus
        read - the communists offered to give out masks to the people for FREE

        Well, let them buy it with party funds and hand out request
        1. Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 19: 07 New
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          Quote: Ruslan67
          Quote: Crown without virus
          read - the communists offered to give out masks to the people for FREE

          Well, let them buy it with party funds and hand out request

          First read the article - and then expose yourself to the general place hi
          1. Ruslan67 12 May 2020 19: 13 New
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            Quote: Crown without virus
            First read the article -

            Already....
            1. Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 19: 21 New
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              Quote: Ruslan67
              Quote: Crown without virus
              First read the article -

              Already....

              Then tell readers what the Communists proposed to do for the people, and how the Edrovites responded drinks
              1. Ruslan67 12 May 2020 19: 25 New
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                Quote: Crown without virus
                tell readers what the Communists proposed to do

                Key-Offered drinks
                1. Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 19: 41 New
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                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  Quote: Crown without virus
                  tell readers what the Communists proposed to do

                  Key-Offered drinks

                  Well then, I’ll retell it myself)) The Communists suggested that since the authorities obliged people to wear masks under the threat of repression, then they would give out these masks to the people for FREE !!! drinks
                  To which the edrovtsy replied that the people "don’t peck at the money" and let this people buy masks at their own expense am
                  1. Azis 12 May 2020 20: 10 New
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                    The Communist Party can buy masks for their party funds (party bonuses will live a little more modestly) and give them out for free, even with their own symbols and only upon presentation of a party / Komsomol ticket. This is the real work of the party, not populist blah blah ...
                    1. Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 20: 21 New
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                      Quote: Azis
                      The Communist Party can buy masks for their party funds (party bonuses will live a little more modestly) and give them out for free, even with their own symbols and only upon presentation of a party / Komsomol ticket. This is the real work of the party, not populist blah blah ...

                      NOT knowledge of the laws of the Russian Federation does not exempt your Curator from liability repeat
                      You would "drown" everything in VO against your own people there - ask your own people to arrange an educational program for you - at least tell you about the Constitution of the Russian Federation - what it is and what it is eaten with bully
                      1. Azis 12 May 2020 20: 48 New
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                        I agree that the ruling EdRo does not take responsibility. The Communist Party, at least within the framework of the political struggle (if there is one at all), at the expense of the budget of the PARTY, instead of badges / flags / balls / stickers / leaflets, could at least give out masks. What does the Constitution have to do with it?
                      2. Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 20: 58 New
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                        Quote: Azis
                        I agree that the ruling EdRo does not take responsibility. The Communist Party, at least within the framework of the political struggle (if there is one at all), at the expense of the budget of the PARTY, instead of badges / flags / balls / stickers / leaflets, could at least give out masks. What does the Constitution have to do with it?

                        I’ll tell you a terrible secret - the communists have the right to legislative initiative repeat only - shhh !!! don't tell anyone about it stop
                        They were chosen by the people in parliament - and they are trying to PROTECT him - albeit askew and crooked - but they TRY hi and edro does not hit finger ...
                      3. sniperino 13 May 2020 23: 22 New
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                        Quote: Crown without virus
                        They were chosen by the people in parliament - and they are trying to PROTECT him - albeit askew and crooked
                        And illiterate, which is sadder and most dangerous.
                      4. Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 23: 25 New
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                        Quote: sniperino
                        Quote: Crown without virus
                        They were chosen by the people in parliament - and they are trying to PROTECT him - albeit askew and crooked
                        And illiterate, which is sadder and most dangerous.

                        Do you know a story about two frogs that got into a hiding place with milk? ;)
                        briefly recall - one immediately surrendered and drowned, and the second floundered, whipped butter - and jumped out;)
                      5. sniperino 13 May 2020 23: 40 New
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                        Quote: Crown without virus
                        Do you know a story about two frogs that got into a hiding place with milk?
                        No. Parliament ..., tale ..., hiding place ... Euro-Belarusian social real-time strategy?
                      6. Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 23: 45 New
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                        Quote: sniperino
                        Quote: Crown without virus
                        Do you know a story about two frogs that got into a hiding place with milk?
                        No. Parliament ..., tale ..., hiding place ... Euro-Belarusian social real-time strategy?

                        Shame on my gray head))) my parents told me this tale in childhood - what do you teach your children then? ;)

                        here is a link to a fairy tale: https://nukadeti.ru/skazki/dve-lyagushki
                2. Azis 14 May 2020 21: 44 New
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                  EdRo has long turned its back on the people. I'm talking about the distribution of masks by forces and means of the Communist Party. This would be the Promotion, not the chatter. At least such:
                  It is advisable to have more to see people with such symbols, and then the reaction of the same edra
              2. sniperino 13 May 2020 23: 04 New
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                Quote: Azis
                The Communist Party, at least in the framework of the political struggle (if there is one at all), at the expense of the budget of the PARTY, instead of badges / flags / balls / stickers / leaflets, could at least give out masks.
                You, comrade Azis, suffer from political myopia if you offer such untimely and even archival actions! Today is the Communist Party’s political slogan: "The worse, the better! Masks will be torn from the bourgeoisie!" Hurray, comrades !!!fellow
            2. Serg65 13 May 2020 09: 46 New
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              Quote: Crown without virus
              You would "drown" everything in VO against your own people

              Communist Party is the whole people of Russia ??? good
          2. AUL
            AUL 13 May 2020 08: 37 New
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            Quote: Azis
            The Communist Party of the Russian Federation can buy masks on their party funds (party bonuses will live a bit more modestly) and give them out for free,

            Can’t edro? They have not gathered poverty there. And yet, “leading and directing”, could really do something for the benefit of people!
            1. Serg65 13 May 2020 09: 53 New
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              Quote: AUL
              could really do something for the benefit of people!

              Unlike the demagogues-communists do, the volunteer movement of the EP is gaining momentum! And you, dear comrades, such a most convenient moment was simply delayed ... missed, having hit as usual in banal demagogy and poor PR!
            2. Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 13: 06 New
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              Quote: Serg65
              Quote: AUL
              could really do something for the benefit of people!

              Unlike the demagogues-communists do, the volunteer movement of the EP is gaining momentum! And you, dear comrades, such a most convenient moment was simply delayed ... missed, having hit as usual in banal demagogy and poor PR!

              Why are you talking ?! seriously, at that moment, when until June 1, the Authority forbade me to work and support my family, as a man who is simply obliged to support his family, even though he finger smacked my finger to help ?! belay
            3. Serg65 13 May 2020 13: 18 New
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              Have you asked for this help? Or are you simply obligated on a silver platter?
            4. Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 14: 36 New
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              Quote: Serg65
              Have you asked for this help? Or are you simply obligated on a silver platter?

              According to the law on emergency situations - MANDATORY !!! I know my rights am

              Well, and so on that garbage that they adopted instead of laws - I DO NOT DO ANYTHING !!! not supposed to - these "laws" I know the same
            5. Herman 4223 13 May 2020 22: 25 New
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              Under the law on emergencies, you’ll be locked up at home, and macrosters from the military will be delivered at best.
              And compensate for direct damage, not loss of profits.
            6. Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 22: 27 New
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              Quote: Herman 4223
              Under the law on emergencies, you’ll be locked up at home, and macrosters from the military will be delivered at best.
              And compensate for direct damage, not loss of profits.

              I AGREE!!!! fellow
              They locked me at home crying but they didn’t deliver the macaroni wassat
            7. Herman 4223 13 May 2020 22: 30 New
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              But because no one announced the emergency. There is a presidential decree on non-working days. Your weekend just lasted.
            8. Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 22: 33 New
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              Quote: Herman 4223
              But because no one announced the emergency. There is a presidential decree on non-working days. Your weekend just lasted.

              You know the Occam Razor principle:
              The Okkama shaver (sometimes the Okkama blade) is a methodological principle that summarizes as follows: “One should not multiply existing things without necessity” (or “One should not attract new entities without emergency”).

              If there is a Law on Emergency Situations - why come up with some strange decrees - after all, you just need to comply with the Law of the Russian Federation !!!
            9. Herman 4223 13 May 2020 22: 55 New
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              So not everything is as simple as we think.
              In my city, the shopping centers were covered, and so everyone walks freely and even works.
            10. Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 22: 57 New
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              Quote: Herman 4223
              So not everything is as simple as we think.
              In my city, the shopping centers were covered, and so everyone walks freely and even works.

              And in the suburbs, not only did they prolong the non-quarantine for a week, and in the best case I will go to work on June 1 - they MUST be masked around the house - and we have the cheapest mask 50 rubles apiece ... there’s nothing to eat - and you don’t put on a mask - 4000 r fine
            11. Herman 4223 13 May 2020 23: 06 New
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              Well, the presidential decree says that the weekend is wage saving. If you are officially arranged then this is a mess of course.
            12. Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 23: 08 New
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              I work officially - but in the piecework - everything that I earned - minus interest to the employer and taxes - all mine !!! drinks I work on shopping mall !!! we have such laws !!! and DO NOT earn ...
            13. Herman 4223 13 May 2020 23: 15 New
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              Nus let's hope that everything is fine with you. And unfortunately the weekend in the country will drag on for a long time. The virus will not disappear in a month or even six months, it is necessary to hold on.
  3. Aag
    Aag 14 May 2020 19: 30 New
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    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: AUL
    could really do something for the benefit of people!

    Unlike the demagogues-communists do, the volunteer movement of the EP is gaining momentum! And you, dear comrades, such a most convenient moment was simply delayed ... missed, having hit as usual in banal demagogy and poor PR!

    PR? When the citizens themselves collected, they brought help to the victims of the flood (Tulun, Irk. Obl.) Volunteers spanked the symbolism of EP.
    From the water, but into the fire: don’t you remember the frames of the central TV channels from putting out fires in the same area? Let me remind you: volunteers in snow-white T-shirts with the EP logo meet the President at the site of an extinguished fire. Words of gratitude, scrapie, etc. .... A the real people who fought with fire, the guard pushed the remaining one into the forest, so that they would not spoil the frame with their indecent appearance.
    In general, where does the EP party get its funds from? I suspect that it’s not from membership dues, but from citizens ’taxes, regardless of membership, or not belonging to one or another party. Does anyone else remember who their chairman is? And where is he?
  4. Nikolai Grek 14 May 2020 21: 00 New
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    Quote: AAG
    Tulun city, Irk.

    what this is where the praised communist then taxied ??? !!! recourse wassat
  5. Aag
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    Quote: Nikolai Grek
    Quote: AAG
    Tulun city, Irk.

    what this is where the praised communist then taxied ??? !!! recourse wassat

    I am here neither for the Communists, nor for United Russia, but against fraud, cheap PR.
  • Serg65 13 May 2020 09: 28 New
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    Quote: Crown without virus
    edrovtsy answered that people "do not bite money"

    Throw a link to this answer?
    1. Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 13: 07 New
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      Quote: Serg65
      Quote: Crown without virus
      edrovtsy answered that people "do not bite money"

      Throw a link to this answer?

      In the previous topic cited the link 2 times
      1. Serg65 13 May 2020 13: 18 New
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        Quote: Crown without virus
        In the previous topic cited the link 2 times

        Well, thanks for that laughing
      2. Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 14: 37 New
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        Quote: Serg65
        Quote: Crown without virus
        In the previous topic cited the link 2 times

        Well, thanks for that laughing

        always please)))
  • Serg65 13 May 2020 09: 17 New
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    Quote: Crown without virus
    Then tell readers what the Communists proposed to do for the people,

    Go to the circus tent at his own expense laughing
  • Serg65 13 May 2020 09: 16 New
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    Quote: Crown without virus
    Read the article first

    Those. still its own penny closer to the body? laughing
  • Revival 12 May 2020 22: 02 New
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    Well, then, in this case, it’s necessary to change the ones acting on them, since these are not capable, and the party will be able to
  • Cowbra 12 May 2020 19: 42 New
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    Quote: Crown without virus
    read - the communists offered to give out masks to the people for FREE

    Read. Where to get the masks - not gu-gu. There are no concrete suggestions on where to get them, at the same time, NOW the masks have to be worn by all civil servants who have never worn them, for example, health workers at all health centers or cops - and now the government is giving them out.
    We see a generous go-ahead - and let's take the masks out of thin air and everyone will go distributing apartments! They were told - let’s. Get the masks out of thin air, pay the producers yourself - and carry them around the apartments. The communists said - "Oh, I think I forgot to turn off the iron"
    Just as I said - at the time when SPECIFIC proposals are needed - they are not. You gave an example confirming this laughing
    1. Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 19: 46 New
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      Quote: Cowbra
      Quote: Crown without virus
      read - the communists offered to give out masks to the people for FREE

      Read. Where to get the masks - not gu-gu. There are no concrete suggestions on where to get them, at the same time, NOW the masks have to be worn by all civil servants who have never worn them, for example, health workers at all health centers or cops - and now the government is giving them out.
      We see a generous go-ahead - and let's take the masks out of thin air and everyone will go distributing apartments! They were told - let’s. Get the masks out of thin air, pay the producers yourself - and carry them around the apartments. The communists said - "Oh, I think I forgot to turn off the iron"
      Just as I said - at the time when SPECIFIC proposals are needed - they are not. You gave an example confirming this laughing

      Have you ever heard from the ear that there is a Stabilization Fund in Russia where money was poured “on a black day” for just such cases as now? )) we also hung noodles on our ears and a “vest on our chests was torn”, that as soon as the “northern fur-bearing animal” came to Russia, they would immediately print a small egg and we would be happy)))

      did the animal come after all? ;) where is "happiness" then ??? am
      1. Cowbra 12 May 2020 20: 03 New
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        You heard from the corner of your ear that the MASKS were not added to the Stabilization Fund, and their consumption increased not by an order of magnitude or even by two? Masks to take - where? The state has them. For civil servants. The rest receive help - and decide that it is easier for them - to buy, sew, sit at home. But the Stabilization Fund is not needed for that. to give out masks. but for that. to overcome the crisis now. Masks will not help start a stopped industry - only the stabilization fund.
        So, again, there are no concrete proposals. About the Stabilization Fund, by the way, the article didn’t even sound, because that would be the answer to the populists. The suggestion was - "just take the masks and give them away." Dot. That is, SPECIFIC proposals, as I repeated twice, I will repeat to you in the third - N-E-T.
        1. Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 20: 06 New
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          Quote: Cowbra
          You heard from the corner of your ear that the MASKS were not added to the Stabilization Fund, and their consumption increased not by an order of magnitude or even by two? Masks to take - where? The state has them. For civil servants. The rest receive help - and decide that it is easier for them - to buy, sew, sit at home. But the Stabilization Fund is not needed for that. to give out masks. but for that. to overcome the crisis now. Masks will not help start a stopped industry - only the stabilization fund.
          So, again, there are no concrete proposals. About the Stabilization Fund, by the way, the article didn’t even sound, because that would be the answer to the populists. The suggestion was - "just take the masks and give them away." Dot. That is, SPECIFIC proposals, as I repeated twice, I will repeat to you in the third - N-E-T.

          the last time I answer you - if you DO NOT understand - then this will be your problem)))
          the people of the PPC with money - there is no money for masks - the Communists proposed to distribute masks to the PEOPLE for free at the expense of the state !!! )) if you DO NOT understand it, then I am sorry for you crying
          1. nickname7 13 May 2020 04: 04 New
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            . masks - the Communists proposed to distribute masks to the PEOPLE at the expense of the state

            And who will give you the masks, the Martians will bring chtoli? There are physically no masks in the Russian Federation at all, so they cannot be handed out.
            There was an article about China, so there for a couple of weeks engineers developed an automatic line, production of masks and started selling factories for masks, Chinese businessmen bought factories and produce these masks in tons, this is the fundamental difference between a commodity and an industrial country.
            1. Virus-free crown 13 May 2020 13: 09 New
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              Quote: nickname7
              . masks - the Communists proposed to distribute masks to the PEOPLE at the expense of the state

              And who will give you the masks, the Martians will bring chtoli? There are physically no masks in the Russian Federation at all, so they cannot be handed out.
              There was an article about China, so there for a couple of weeks engineers developed an automatic line, production of masks and started selling factories for masks, Chinese businessmen bought factories and produce these masks in tons, this is the fundamental difference between a commodity and an industrial country.

              maybe you don’t know, but now at every corner you can buy a mask from 30 r / pc
      2. fiberboard 12 May 2020 20: 15 New
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        No, I haven’t come yet. We are still holding on.
      3. aybolyt678 12 May 2020 22: 37 New
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        did the animal come after all?

        let the animal not come! there is a very effective means of combating any virus is immunoglobulins ... perhaps it is time to re-invent them. laughing They are obtained from the blood of sick people and animals. 1 ml of blood plasma contains enough antibodies to cure the patient. The cheapest and fastest is heterogeneous serum, when pigs are immunized, for example, and globulins get sweat from their blood. One biofactory is able to provide hyperimmune serum to the whole world!
        What we see now, this little animal comes to the hegemony of the United States, which is strong enough to put the whole world on its ears, for now. Now, to the noise of Baranovirus, you can close the borders, develop production, raise your own rating by releasing serum promptly! But no! we blow the world bankers in unison and kill ourselves! Look at the film “Insiders” at your leisure, put today's Baranoystery on it, and everything will fall into place.
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        Bummer, stabilization fund, gold and foreign exchange reserves, national welfare fund under the care of the Central Bank. And the Central Bank does not have the right to credit the government of the Russian Federation by law.
        Not responsible for obligations of the government. And it does not depend on the authorities of the Russian Federation.
    2. Romey 12 May 2020 19: 55 New
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      That's always the way ... You have money for villas and yachts, but there isn’t something for people. You see the budgets are cracking.
      1. nickname7 13 May 2020 04: 44 New
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        . You have money for villas and yachts,

        Actually, in the Russian Federation, even if there is money, an extra class yacht cannot be built, since there are no components to build, money in this case turns into cut paper. Money turned into a yacht in a German shipyard.
    3. Mordvin 3 12 May 2020 21: 32 New
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      Quote: Cowbra
      I read it.


      Quote: Cowbra
      They were told - let’s. Get the masks out of thin air, pay the producers yourself - and carry them around the apartments.

      Do not lie then.
      In April, according to Morozov, more than 138 million masks were produced and more than 100 million masks were purchased.

      Moreover, as the representative of "EP" assured, the population has the means to purchase personal protective equipment. “The measures of support for citizens and their families that the president first announced yesterday, I will not list,” he said.

      As a result, only 74 deputies supported the proposal to give out free of charge to Russians during restrictive meth because of the threat of coronavirus masks and gloves. Against and abstaining, as usual, was not: representatives of the party in power simply ignored the vote.
      https://newdaynews.ru/moscow/691710.html
      1. gsev 12 May 2020 22: 14 New
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        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        In April, according to Morozov, more than 138 million masks were produced and more than 100 million masks were purchased.

        In Russia, about 1 million health workers. The mask is workable for 2 hours. That is, 200 million masks per month may be enough for doctors and police, but not for the whole country. The PRC also lacks special materials for the production of masks, at least that was the case in April.
        1. Mordvin 3 12 May 2020 22: 26 New
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          PRC also lacks special materials for the production of masks

          But what should ordinary people do? From old socks masks tinkering, or what?
          1. novel66 12 May 2020 22: 47 New
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            from new ones. old holey
            1. Tatanka Yotanka 13 May 2020 10: 00 New
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              Quote: novel xnumx
              from new ones. old holey

              silk, cotton wool, gauze or papyrus
              all this crap and longing,
              can't stand the dead virus
              that smell is a Russian sock fellow
              1. novel66 13 May 2020 10: 11 New
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                ourselves to make ...
            2. gsev 13 May 2020 15: 49 New
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              Quote: novel xnumx
              from new ones. old holey

              In pyaterochka sold blanks of masks. It is enough to cut holes in such a blank with the size of your face and the mask is ready. If you are sick, then in such a mask your chance to infect others when going to the store will decrease. If you sew a garment and add a nose clip or glue it with a leukopalastra, this product can be considered a normal mask. In addition, since the 1970s there have been books like "Everybody needs to know" in every house. There is a description of the technology for making masks in case of bacteriological and nuclear war. Kovid 19-2 is still not anthrax, not Ebola, not plague and not smallpox.
    4. Revival 12 May 2020 22: 03 New
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      So the state is not able to pay the producers and offers to do this party?
      1. Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 04 New
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        So the state is not able to pay the producers and offers to do this party?

        A party for the people, or so on the side bake?
        1. novel66 13 May 2020 10: 12 New
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          Serge. and the party is a tool! she is for no one, she is for what
          1. Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 24 New
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            Rum, you're rather right! Then the question is ... figs hide behind people if you work for an oligarch?
            1. novel66 13 May 2020 10: 25 New
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              and what else to hide behind? God's word no longer (yet)
              1. Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 15 New
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                Those. the honorary name "real communist" is nothing more than a fiction ???
                1. novel66 13 May 2020 11: 15 New
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                  today? are you joking?
                  1. Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 24 New
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                    Well, why joke right away, here a lady who took a nickname named Czechoslovak dump truck claims that she is "a real communist"!
                  2. novel66 13 May 2020 11: 25 New
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                    But is she ready for machine guns? or build a Dneproges spade? if yes, then surely
                  3. Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 32 New
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                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    But is she ready for machine guns? or build a Dneproges spade?

                    laughing Now it's my turn .. joke please, my friend ????
                  4. novel66 13 May 2020 11: 34 New
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                    that’s all. about real communists. they = then they were not looking for benefits for themselves
              2. novel66 13 May 2020 11: 31 New
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                or here is another significant
              3. Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 36 New
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                The party members are all so conscious ....... how long ago it was that !!!!
              4. novel66 13 May 2020 11: 37 New
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                then they were ... and they still remained in the domestic one, but Pr Khrushchev began to have a profit .. and then the story ends
              5. Serg65 13 May 2020 12: 38 New
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                My friend, I'm afraid to offend you, but the fairy tale end even during the war began to draw! PPS, trophy cars, Leningrad bruliks, housekeepers, mozherdomy, bickering of gentlemen-comrades of generals and marshals for a place under the great sun ... Khrushchev is a product of that era!
              6. novel66 13 May 2020 12: 39 New
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                he is manure on which everything sprang up
              7. Serg65 13 May 2020 12: 47 New
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                Quote: novel xnumx
                he is manure

                smile he-plant grown on soil fertilized by others!
              8. novel66 13 May 2020 12: 48 New
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                you shove now !!! am
              9. Serg65 13 May 2020 12: 55 New
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                laughing Here we read, here we do not read, but here we wrap fish?
        2. novel66 13 May 2020 12: 40 New
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          and when I stumble over Zhukov’s and trophy affairs, only the lazy one doesn’t minus
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          only lazy does not minus

          I'm sorry and you'll be forgiven wink Zhukova had both pros and cons ...
        4. novel66 13 May 2020 12: 51 New
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          the beginning of the war and Sychevka will never forgive
        5. Serg65 13 May 2020 12: 54 New
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          Will you forgive Stalin?
        6. novel66 13 May 2020 12: 57 New
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          here it is precisely that which is the marshal of victory!
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        8. novel66 13 May 2020 13: 05 New
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          the forgery was obvious, but you didn’t read what I was sending you
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          If forgery, then where did Beria look? What for then the Soviet people spent money on the NKVD ???
  • Sector 13 May 2020 13: 01 New
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    Will you forgive Stalin?

    Stalin for them is the main enemy (they are already warped on one behalf), because he made the USSR a world power and a powerful country not only in terms of armaments, etc.
  • Sector 13 May 2020 12: 59 New
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    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: novel xnumx
    only lazy does not minus

    I'm sorry and you'll be forgiven wink Zhukova had both pros and cons ...

    Just like Stalin! But we broke the ridge of Germany .. And this is the main thing, and here many masters pour over our history with mud ..
  • Serg65 13 May 2020 13: 01 New
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    But Germany we broke the ridge

    Nobody argues with this, my dear Spector is here, the ideological argument of two old drinking companions ..... and nothing more! wink
  • Sector 13 May 2020 13: 08 New
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    ideological debate of two old drinking companions ..... and nothing more!

    Got it ... Excuse me, dear Sergey, that I got in, but I still prefer your arguments anyway .. I could not stand it hi
  • IS-80_RVGK2 12 May 2020 19: 51 New
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    Quote: Crown without virus
    the communists proposed

    You have seven mistakes in the word capitalists.
    1. Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 19: 52 New
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      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
      Quote: Crown without virus
      the communists proposed

      You have seven mistakes in the word capitalists.

      but I write the word "communist" without a single achaputka wassat
  • Reserve officer 12 May 2020 21: 58 New
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    A very good example with masks. That United Russia, the Communist Party-the same thing, the only difference is in the details. Some for free distribution, others for money. And no one said that these masks are only a means of enriching someone unclear, they are completely useless for maintaining health and such compulsory duty simply degrades human dignity. If tomorrow a decree comes out that everyone should crawl on their belly, these parties will argue about where to find durable suits for crawling, and not about canceling such a decree.
    Before our eyes, the mentality of the victorious people is being destroyed, the psychology of humility and resignation is being fostered - fines, prohibitions, restrictions, rising taxes, ignoring freedoms and rights.
    Parties only argue about packaging, and the quality of the product itself suits them all.
    1. nickname7 13 May 2020 04: 56 New
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      . no one said that these masks are only a means of enriching someone unclear, they are completely useless for maintaining health and such compulsory duty simply degrades human dignity

      You are blatantly lying, mask 95, a construction respirator, perfectly retains drip moisture, in which the virus reduces the number of patients.
      For complaint, send claims to the crown.
      If the Yellowstone volcano explodes, let’s crawl on your belly, if necessary, such is the logic of the crisis, the more FOS majors, the less rights and freedoms.

      . us before our eyes the mentality of the victorious people is destroyed, the psychology of humility is brought up

      And according to this phrase, a bot is calculated that distributes information about sabotage of the fight against the virus.
  • aybolyt678 12 May 2020 22: 25 New
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    read - the communists offered to give out masks to the people for FREE - and the United Russia responded that the people were snickering

    the cost of the mask is 2 rubles. Distribute for free - that is, at the expense of the budget, it means to act under the law on quarantine ... not a great feat! ordinary populism.
    Communists should educate people !!! to develop tactics and strategy for the struggle for a bright communist future! look for new adherents! wrestlers! heroes! to improve and adapt the theory of Marx and Lenin to modern conditions, and most importantly, to develop methods to combat the existing regime of global financial arbitrariness !!
    1. Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 07 New
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      the main thing is to develop methods to combat the existing regime of global financial arbitrariness !!

      Those. the whole struggle for the people is the development of methods .... good , from here and your meager interest in the elections .. theorists laughing
      1. aybolyt678 13 May 2020 10: 17 New
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        from here and your meager interest in the elections .. theorists

        but yours! large percentage in elections turns into negative economic development smile respected "practices"
        1. Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 22 New
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          a large percentage of the election turns into a negative economic development

          what In bast shoes, go and quinoa for lunch?
          1. aybolyt678 13 May 2020 10: 24 New
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            what for? the house has 3 floors, billiards and tennis are in the volume ... in the pig shed, in the clinic is the turn ... the trouble is that I don’t know where the children are learning to give, so that the prospect is. In the absence thereof, all the problems in the country winked
            I, you know, the graduated veterinarian virologist, left science for the self-employed proletarians, tired of this circus with grants. Now I see that science, on guard of money, is losing its last authority. It hurts, believe me.
            1. Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 21 New
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              I don’t know where children are learning to give, so that the prospect is

              Do not be offended, but I’ll tell you one unpleasant thing, no matter where you give your children away, because they have no goal to achieve anything ... they already have everything.
              Quote: aybolyt678
              left science for the self-employed proletarians

              laughing and you are a joker, my friend !!! I understand that from the abundance in your three-story house you are just bored?
              1. aybolyt678 13 May 2020 11: 33 New
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                but I’ll tell you one unpleasant thing, it doesn’t matter to you where to give your children, because they have no goal to achieve something ... they already have everything.

                I think a little wider laughing "Happiness is a sense of perspective," no matter what. Any material affluence causes satiety, or frustration, in case there are examples of greater affluence. For a person, the possibility of self-realization is necessary. It is important for him to feel necessary ... If a person cannot change the reality around him, he will inevitably begin to change his attitude to reality with the help of alcohol or drugs.
                Man is created in the likeness of God, that is, he is the Creator. Man's will is a spark of God, not to be confused with animal desires for material wealth. It is not right. I believe that the question is being solved right now - will humanity become a space race or will begin to eat each other like rats in a bank
                A person must think and do more than one generation ahead. then he will be happy
                I understand that from the abundance in your three-story house
                - in the courtyard of the 21st century, do not attach much importance to toys ... today's technologies can ruin any country in a couple of years. Remember the USSR.
                1. Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 42 New
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                  humanity will become a space race or start to eat each other like rats in a bank
                  A person must think and do more than one generation ahead. then he will be happy

                  what Hmm ... not proletarian thoughts, definitely! What theories do you enjoy at your leisure?
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  For a person, the possibility of self-realization is necessary. It is important for him to feel fit.

                  In this case, can you leave your choice of self-realization to your children? They probably have some inclinations?
                  1. aybolyt678 13 May 2020 11: 52 New
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                    Quote: Serg65
                    What theories do you enjoy at your leisure?

                    I'm re-reading Marx and Lenin.
                    Quote: Serg65
                    maybe leave your choice of self-realization for your children?

                    Thank you for the attention. Touched. smile The trouble is that the Ideology of Consumption is being cultivated today, and mass consumer psychosis undoubtedly affects the fragile children's psyche. You watch the little children somehow ... see how they watch the ads! they love her! she looks like a short fairy tale with a happy ending !! but in reality she cultivates an attitude towards life. sad . This gives rise to some misunderstanding in determining the Purpose in life, between parents and children.
                    And they don’t know the word Honor, not my children, but often in general.
  • Serg65 13 May 2020 09: 15 New
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    communists have offered to give people a mask for FREE

    Well, they would distribute, tea would not be impoverished! What is the problem?
  • BREAKTHROUGH READY 12 May 2020 18: 32 New
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    “United Russia” is the pillar of the political system and the only guarantee of stability for the people.
    Even the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party, let them be for the sake of pluralism, so that the liberde does not buzz once again.
    Any Maidanites should not even be allowed close to the legislative bodies. They will sell the homeland for the money of Soros and will not blink an eye.
    1. really 12 May 2020 18: 39 New
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      Something is not heard about the huge property of the opposition leaders, but very much is heard about the leaders of the ruling parties
      1. Cowbra 12 May 2020 18: 50 New
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        Didn’t you hear about buying a crab business in the Far East? Navalny was sitting for the wrong crossing of the road or for the theft of the forest near Kirov? Further everywhere.
        1. really 12 May 2020 18: 52 New
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          How much Navalny was charged with money, and Sobchak is not the opposition,
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      2. U-58 12 May 2020 19: 39 New
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        Not yet evening. Wait, there are numerous bank accounts and kilograms of gold ...
      3. Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 19 New
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        Quote: really
        Something is not heard about the huge property of opposition leaders

        Grandestate Service LLC and Gorod-Zhilservis CJSC do not tell me who it belongs to?
        V. Rashkin is a "communist of a new formation." The ideological and moral in its traditional form is practically absent. Strongly "included" in the election campaign of the governor. He has a well-established idea of ​​her methods and prevailing rules of the game, which she understands in her own way.
        In particular, in January he received large sums of cash (250 and 190 thousand, respectively) from the heads of firms operating at the two largest industrial enterprises in Saratov. At the same time, he undertook the obligation to exempt them, if elected governor, from most of the local taxes and not to allow the regulatory authorities to intervene in the financial affairs of enterprises and their subsidiaries.
        In return for obligations - future patronage. Therefore, it accepts money and transfers from people close to criminal circles.
        Comrade Rashkin, criticizing his competitors in words, however, under convenient circumstances he is able to apply any dirty methods in the election campaign.

        From an analytical note to the Chairman of the Presidium of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation G. Zyuganov regarding Rashkina V.F
    2. Virus-free crown 12 May 2020 18: 54 New
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      “United Russia” is the pillar of the political system and the only guarantee of stability for the people.
      Even the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party, let them be for the sake of pluralism, so that the liberde does not buzz once again.
      Any Maidanites should not even be allowed close to the legislative bodies. They will sell the homeland for the money of Soros and will not blink an eye.

      I am amazed at your ability to lie so brazenly in the eyes !!! Bravo!!! Keep it up!!! good
    3. Grandfather 12 May 2020 19: 14 New
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      United Russia ”is the pillar of the political system and the only guarantee of stability for the people.

      "Mihan" ... not funny ... remove the cross or put on your underpants.
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        He is simpler, he is without that and without the other
    4. Cossack 471 12 May 2020 20: 39 New
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      Are you kidding? Look how much money the equidistant oligarchs stole from the country for 20 years of stability. And how much officials stole and divided the officials they already sold their homeland. for citizenship in Europe. for villas on the Cote d'Azur. for the happy and prosperous future of their children outside of our country They just fool us
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      "Eat Russia" is the pillar of the political system and the only guarantee of stability for the people.
      ?
      What a laugh!
      And the people are the government + 2%?
      Well then, yes ..
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      AUL 13 May 2020 08: 53 New
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      Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY
      “United Russia” is the pillar of the political system and the only guarantee of stability for the people.
      Even the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party, let them be for the sake of pluralism, so that the liberde does not buzz once again.
      Any Maidanites should not even be allowed close to the legislative bodies. They will sell the homeland for the money of Soros and will not blink an eye.

      That's what distance learning brings! He would have to correct deuces at school, and here he writes slogans on an adult forum ...
  • Mikhail m 12 May 2020 18: 34 New
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    The main question of our life: who finances these "parties"? He dances these parties. The finances were squeezed and the parties were blown away.
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    You can’t talk much in a mask.
    Waiting for the "team" ... and money
  • tatra 12 May 2020 18: 36 New
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    Why Putin, that all the other Russian enemies of the communists are AFRAID of a strong party and strong leaders around whom the patriots of Russia would unite. Here are normal people - the “left” before the last “election of Putin” united, created their own Program for Russia and the people, chose their candidate, and what an evil coven with rudeness, insults, slanderous, hypocritical “righteous anger” the enemies of the Communists have built against them , including, and as a "model court", so that others were not discouraged.
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      Quote: tatra
      Here are normal people - the “left” before the last “election of Putin” united, created their own Program for Russia and the people, chose their candidate, and what an evil coven with rudeness, insults, slanderous, hypocritical “righteous anger” the enemies of the Communists have built against them , including, and as a "model court", so that others were not discouraged.

      What did you want to say, sick? Drooling alone. repeat
    2. Romey 12 May 2020 19: 43 New
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      Um ... Then we got united not around ideology, the party, and even more so the leader, but around the program and common sense. Why do I, the right-wing nationalist, Marxism-Leninism, if I am more interested in the social and economic agenda, which coincided with the views of intelligent and negotiable left-wing people? And yet it would be nice for you to clarify who the "enemies of the Communists" are? I am also an enemy, it turns out because I do not share your ideology?
      1. tatra 12 May 2020 21: 39 New
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        The enemies of the Communists, who fall into hysteria when they are called so, are those who are 70 years old under the Soviet regime and 30 years after the capture of the USSR, they rage against the Communists and their supporters, and they themselves did nothing useful for their country and people, and not even offered. Just stupid, irrational AGAINST.
        1. aybolyt678 12 May 2020 22: 45 New
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          30 years after the capture of the USSR, they rave against the Communists and their supporters

          For the last 40 years, only communists have ruled the country, many parts of the country have fallen off, others have ruled there, in the past communists .... I, a convinced Marxist, do not see any fighter or competent ideologist among today's Duma communists! I see the primates bought by the bankers fool .
          1. tatra 12 May 2020 23: 00 New
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            No, you are the classic enemy of the Communists with their cowardly, irresponsible mentality, whining that they have nothing to do with everything that they did during the Soviet period and after the capture and dismemberment of the USSR by them - from responsibility for starting the Civil War after the October Revolution with the purpose of capturing Russia by them, to the responsibility for what they did with the republics of the USSR they captured and their peoples for the large and huge salaries and levies that they had after the capture of the USSR. And the Communists and their supporters have always been proud and proud of what they have done since the October Revolution, and before your "Liberator" Gorbachev reached the power in the USSR.
            1. aybolyt678 12 May 2020 23: 07 New
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              well, enemy of the communists ?? First, can we define the term?
          2. DNS-a42 13 May 2020 08: 00 New
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            the last 40 years only communists rule the country

            And what actions did these citizens commit in order to be worthy of being called communists?
      2. Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 30 New
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        We then united not around ideology, the party, and even less a leader, but around a program and common sense

        Masterpiece !!! good
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        Why do i need right-wing nationalist Marxism-Leninism

        Well, and then the virgin communists roll their eyes .. we are not brothers with the Nazis! laughing
    3. Serg65 13 May 2020 10: 27 New
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      Here normal people - The "left" before the last "election of Putin" united, created their own Program for Russia and the people, chose their candidate

      laughing Irina, you are tearing your navel against the enemies of communism, but choosing a bourgeois candidate ... is everything normal with your head?
      1. tatra 13 May 2020 10: 30 New
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        And that, in your opinion, the enemies of the Communists have the right to be rich, and all Communists and their supporters must be poor? In the party of Bolshevik Communists there were many noblemen and people from wealthy families. Are they not communists for you?
        1. Serg65 13 May 2020 11: 01 New
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          In the party of the Bolshevik Communists there were many noblemen and people from wealthy families

          There were, I agree! But they were theorists and did not shine with wealth, for all that, the Bolsheviks (namely, you are real Communists) did not even think that their main representative in power would be, for example, Morozov or Brodsky ... is it not true?
          1. tatra 13 May 2020 11: 07 New
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            You can talk a lot, but what do you specifically propose? Wait for the patriots of Russia to have their own leader from the poor?
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              Quote: tatra
              patriots of Russia

              Patriots of Russia are not looking for a convenient moment to ruin Russia!
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              Wait for the patriots of Russia to have their own leader from the poor?

              Yes, it’s better to wait than to expose yourself like that !!!
  • Leo_59 12 May 2020 18: 49 New
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    A Progressive and Relatively Near-Faced Future of a Digitalized Society is a non-partisan system.
    A system with leaders who have their own publicly popularized conceptually relevant socio-economic platforms.
  • Ryaruav 12 May 2020 18: 51 New
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    they all eat from one trough there and crap on the people
  • Vitaly Tsymbal 12 May 2020 18: 58 New
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    In the author - PLUS !!! For all the fuss with the coronovirus, we somehow forgot about the parties ... before, at least somehow we “whispered” to ourselves, and now not only in self-isolation, but also in self-hassle))) I don’t ask about the People’s Republic of China -so always vanguard of at least class, at least coronovirus struggle. But how did the parties behave in a pandemic? How are our verbiage? It would be interesting to know, for comparison)))
    1. Revival 12 May 2020 22: 08 New
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      As long as the traitor zu hangs anchor on the party, there will be no movements
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        Quote: Revival
        While the traitor zyu hangs anchor on the party

        All their lives they have betrayed them ... yes, well, what kind of party are you?
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          I'm not a member of the party
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            Quote: Revival
            I'm not a member of the party

            what An interesting movie turns out ... everything is for communism, but it’s worth digging a little so right away who is not, who is a monarchist, this one is just a socialist, and that one is generally a Nazi ..... The 8th Comintern is some kind!
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          All their lives they have betrayed them ... yes, well, what kind of party are you?

          The Communist Party has become a party of traitors since the second half of the 20th century. When the Cult of Personality was announced. A person with communist convictions there generally began to do nothing.
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            The Communist Party has become a party of traitors since the second half of the 20th century

            what From the second half ??? Come on!!! And I thought it was a sinful thing that since 1907 all this camarilla began ... well, it must be!
  • rocket757 12 May 2020 19: 01 New
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    . Interestingly, the period of the economic crisis and the associated deterioration in the social well-being of citizens is a great chance for the opposition (not a bunch of balabol, but a real active opposition, ready to work precisely for the good of the country) to gain points. But the Russian parties are not taking any serious action in this direction.

    Really interesting also strange !!!
    Once in my life I saw a real attempt by a representative of an opposition party to help people! He could not do anything, really, but people HAVE FOUND that he wants to help and people have returned to him, his party, a hundred-percent “debt”! Nobody forgot anything and in the next election this party received well-deserved buns. People voted for them like never before!
  • Hagen 12 May 2020 19: 03 New
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    The political system created in Russia is confidently opposed to the emergence of new parties and movements that could represent at least some kind of independence. Neither the alternative Communist Party of the Left, nor the nationalists (in the patriotic sense of the word), nor the notorious “bulk players” are not allowed into the State Duma.

    Interestingly, but how exactly are they not allowed? Who does not let, for what does not let? At the elections to the State Duma in 2016, 14 were put up !!! parties. And everyone had the opportunity to come to the voters and clarify their point of view on the political process. Who remembers these games today? Who knows what they are doing today? What are these parties doing to enter the next election? Take for example the "Apple". How many do they take part in various shows? Infinitely many. But as you listen to the representatives of this party, for some reason you think that they are winners of the competition of the most distant people of Russia. What, the system prevents them from thinking who to move to represent the "party line" to the people? I think it’s time to end these sobs on usurping the politics of the country of one EP. It’s just that her work is actually more organized than that of the Communist Party or the Slovak Republic, and even more so for those who, all things being equal, failed to interest 3% of voters. Under Nikolai2, none of the RSDLP authorities provided the "green" road, but it won the political struggle and achieved its goals. It's all about the leaders. Grandfather Lenin managed with minimal powers to take power and lead the people of the whole country. As Vysotsky said: "there are few real violent ones - there are no leaders." The system has nothing to do with it.
    1. Cresta999 12 May 2020 19: 50 New
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      As a participant in the elections I will answer - you are wrong. The system most directly and very simply affects the passage of parties in the State Duma. I collected signatures in Vologda for the admission of air defense before the election. Signatures collected. (And this in itself is difficult). But they were simply recognized as not valid. Although this is not so. That's all. And you won’t do anything.
      1. Hagen 12 May 2020 19: 54 New
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        Quote: Cresta999
        Signatures collected. (And this in itself is difficult). But they were simply recognized as not valid. Although this is not so. That's all. And you won’t do anything.

        Was the court ruling? And then, this is only air defense, which did not go to the polls. And those that passed, who prevented them from competing with the first four?
        1. Revival 12 May 2020 22: 12 New
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          The court decision was ..
          A man comes to court and declares that yes, I signed, and the expert brought in by the court declares that there is not his signature, and the judge says that the signature is not yours!
          Overcome such a court?
        2. 2 Level Advisor 12 May 2020 23: 06 New
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          the court's decision? independent on elective matters? it’s hard to argue with such naivety .. though .. but can you find a solution where at least one party (not EP) won the election question in court and still got to the vote?
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            Quote: 2 level advisor
            the court's decision? independent on elective matters? it’s hard to argue with such naivety .. though .. but can you find a solution where at least one party (not EP) won the election question in court and still got to the vote?

            The court ordered Mitrokhin to be registered as a candidate for deputy of the Moscow City Duma
            The Moscow City Commission reported that they will register a member of the Yabloko party at a meeting on August 14. Earlier, the district election commission twice refused to Sergei Mitrokhin because of the quality of signatures

            www.rbc.ru/politics/13/08/2019/5d52d9fc9a794748fc95e939
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              this is when 2 weeks were left for agitation, and the remaining 6 weeks were after numerous meetings in Moscow with his participation? Well, yes .. everything is quite ordinary .. Ordinary .. And it never smells like a concession to the protesters, so as not to yell about what I wrote ..

              By the way, here is the info: https://mskgazeta.ru/politika/sergej-mitrohin--zamaskirovannyj-kandidat-v-mosgordumu-ot-vlasti--tak-schitayut-pol-zovateli-socsetej.html

              “Such is Mitrokhin, for example, and you won’t show him that he is pro-government because he speaks of bad EdRo at every corner, and if you look, they forgave him forged signatures and let him go to the MHD elections and he’ll take his seat there (screen) and don’t nobody put him in motion for rallies, although he was even more involved there than "
      2. IS-80_RVGK2 12 May 2020 20: 09 New
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        We omit the fact of collecting signatures for the balabol of the old man. But here a man says quite fair things. Fuck when the ruling class allows the party through the elections to pose a party that poses a real threat to it, and even its competitors from the same class will allow the hell that we observe with air defense. laughing
        1. Hagen 13 May 2020 06: 15 New
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          Fuck when the ruling class will allow the party posing a real threat to power through elections

          This is all theory, speculation and speculation. The "apple" in the first three convocations was in a thought, what prevented further? Who didn’t let her go? Who and how banned voting for her? You, for example ... did anyone indicate where to put the jackdaws? I don’t. The only thing the administrative apparatus was aiming at, but very carefully, was for people to simply come to the polls. And for this, different temptations were invented, such as contests with prizes. But I never heard that someone was pushing some party or person. In a way, I’m participating in election campaigns and I see something from the inside. Today, people in the election commissions are well aware that they can lose for the underhanded "fuss", and that no one, even the ruling party, will help them out of the investigation, if that happens.
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          But here a man says quite fair things

          So your fair things are just a set of speculation from the fence. Sorry for being blunt.
          1. IS-80_RVGK2 13 May 2020 10: 31 New
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            This is all theory, speculation and speculation. The "apple" in the first three convocations was in a thought, what prevented further?

            Do not make me laugh. What threat does Yavlinsky pose? The correct answer is no.
            Quote: Hagen
            the administrative apparatus is that people generally just come to the polls.

            Yes Yes. Kanechna. And state employees by hook or by crook, of course, are not driven to the polls and do not prompt the right candidates. And the fraud and almost 100 percent vote of Chechnya are all of course invented by agents of the State Department.
            Quote: Hagen
            In a way, I’m participating in election campaigns and I see something from the inside.

            I am also a little aware of the backstage affairs.
            Quote: Hagen
            So your fair things are just a set of speculation from the fence.

            But your 146 percent is true.
            1. Hagen 13 May 2020 11: 58 New
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              Do not make me laugh. What threat does Yavlinsky pose? The correct answer is no.

              First, let's respect each other ... and to "you." According to Yavlinsky. Therefore, he did not go anywhere because the voter did not see the need for him, first of all. I did not speak about threats from him.
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              And state employees by hook or by crook of course do not drive to the polls and do not prompt the right candidates

              You may not believe the right candidates are not prompted. And photos of newsletters do not require. The budget is not a bad workplace, which would be exchanged for all sorts of feints that carry nothing with risk. Yes, people today fully understand what phone number to dial in order to create comfort for such "assistants" of politicians. And to come to the polls, then yes, they persuade, but without threats, because it is not very easy to check the appearance, but it’s very difficult to fire for her.

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              But your 146 percent is true.

              We know where these 146 come from. We know that this ... does not cram into the context of the conversation. They stopped twisting this lie even in the West, don’t tell my slippers ... Please. laughing Yes, if interested, hammer in the search for "myth 146" there you will receive a detailed description and interested parties.
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                Quote: Hagen
                Therefore, he did not go anywhere because the voter did not see the need for him, first of all.

                So why are you telling me this? You demand respect from me while doing demagogy. I say that he poses no threat to the authorities, you begin to prove the same to me while saying that I am wrong.
                Quote: Hagen
                You may not believe the right candidates are not prompted. And photos of newsletters do not require.

                Somewhere no, somewhere yes. Although I agree that the government began to work less ax but than in the 90s.
                Quote: Hagen
                The budget is not a bad workplace, which would be exchanged for all sorts of feints that carry nothing with risk.

                I don’t see people striving for state employees. And probably right. With their stable beggarly salaries and a bunch of headaches from all sorts of grabbers of bureaucrats and other creative personalities from the bosses.
                Quote: Hagen
                And to come to the polls, then yes, they persuade, but without threats, because it is not very easy to check the appearance, but it’s very difficult to fire for her.

                But there is always a bunch of nuances. About which you are modestly silent.
                Quote: Hagen
                We know where these 146 come from. We know that this ... does not cram into the context of the conversation. They stopped twisting this lie even in the West, don’t tell my slippers ...

                Honestly, I do not care. I took this meme more as a very good characterization of our power. Which the farther the more bronzed. Well, or cast in granite.
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                  You demand respect from me while doing demagogy.

                  I consider it necessary to respect the interlocutor even in the absence of my consent with him. You tell me with your phrase that you deny me respect. I will not bother you with myself, especially since you are not interesting to me either.
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                    This is of course very sad. But I think I will survive.
    2. aybolyt678 12 May 2020 22: 53 New
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      Grandfather Lenin managed with minimal powers to take power and lead the people of an entire country

      then the country was almost no country. The police are dissolved, state authorities are paralyzed, the king is on the verge of abdication, the church has ceased to be a spiritual support, money has ceased to be money .... At the same time, there were people who studied Capital ... there was a belief in science !! .. there was a need for changes . And then Lenin "Land to the peasants, Factories to the workers!" We will steer ourselves! "All power to the councils!" , - simple, understandable slogans ... Come up with a slogan today close to the aspirations of the majority ??? a problem !!! society is poisoned by the ideology of consumption and individualism!
      1. Hagen 13 May 2020 06: 49 New
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        then the country was almost no country.

        It is when? Was RI not a country from 1898 to 1914? Do you confuse RI with anyone? When the Republic of Ingushetia began to crumble, the RSDLP was already a powerful political force, and it was tearing the state apparatus along with all other parties, and even better.
        1. aybolyt678 13 May 2020 06: 58 New
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          It is when?

          I mean the period after the February revolution, remember the order number 1 on the army, or the dissolution of the police !! state power was paralyzed, soldiers shot officers in the back, money was stored in bags ... people longed for order
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            meaning the period after the February revolution

            But what, Lenin appeared only after February? He just did a lot right before the February Revolution. Because the authorities and drove him as they could. But they lost.
            Quote: aybolyt678
            people longed for order

            Probably from this thirst he killed each other in tens of thousands? The civil war, as the fighting of the whites against the reds, claimed about 1,6 million people, and the total losses of those years amounted to more than 12 million. An interesting thirst for order, isn't it?
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              The civil war, as the fighting of the whites against the reds, claimed about 1,6 million people,

              And do not know whose money was that war? Why were the workers of the Putilov factory armed with English-made rifles? What did the Americans do in the Far East? where did Kolchak go before heading the army? Lenin's genius lies in the scientific analysis of the political situation, the ability to convincingly convey his point of view (take his article Imperialism as high .... put up-to-date numbers there, and this article will become a bomb) and last, he found the right slogans that hit the heart.
              And the war at that time was also going on against the bandits who put on red ribbons to disguise, they greatly spoiled the authority of the revolution
              1. Hagen 13 May 2020 08: 37 New
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                And do not know whose money was that war?

                Have you read the topic under discussion? And where is the money for the war? We are talking about the activity of parties in the political process and the system opposing them during a completely non-military.
                1. aybolyt678 13 May 2020 08: 54 New
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                  We are talking about the activity of parties in the political process.

                  the analogy method is a very worthy method of knowing the world ... I can repeat myself, but our Duma was thoroughly purchased by bankers, then what they are doing is the IDB (imitation of violent activity). The opposition is self-sufficient, no one goes further than populism in front of the camera. Opposition activity is not needed by the Banks, Baranovirus is enough to solve the main banking problem, namely, to force the poorest to pay for their ambitions.
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                    our Duma was bought through and through by bankers

                    And besides quotes from Khodorkovsky’s “children,” can anything be given concrete? Who bought, by whom, for what money? What kind of work does the customer benefit? Slightly more thoroughly illuminate your thesis. It’s clear with the activity of the Duma opposition. She behaved this way all the way, because with such a position, one does not need to report on the result later. But it was a question of opposing the system to access to power of other parties not represented in the Duma. And no one can refute my thesis about their bad and unconvincing work, or do not want for the evidence. So all the questions regarding their penetration into the Duma are not for the system, but for themselves.
                    1. 2 Level Advisor 13 May 2020 09: 27 New
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                      Well, you heard about the existence of lobbyists in Kapmir? You do not deny their existence? Do you think there is a document in which lobbyists are officially employed or put up a price list for services? such documents do not exist in nature that you require, but this does not mean that this is not .. and you know it ..
                      And when I asked you to give at least some court decision where the party (not EP) went through the court and participated in the elections, you didn’t say anything .. But the court’s decision, if there was one, is there .. Double standards don't you find?
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                        But just the court’s decision, if it was, it is ..

                        Moreover, all this is in the plenums of the Armed Forces. There is a guarantor in the information system, too. Request, get first hand. You can dig here https://www.garant.ru/products/ipo/prime/doc/71251696/ There is a collection. I didn’t do it much, but people are turning, they are getting decisions. Despite the fact that in most cases the decisions of the first instances remain unchanged. This is to ensure that the practice itself exists. It is difficult to discuss a specific case with air defense, because the reasons for not accepting signatures can be not only on the basis of the forgery of the signature itself, but also because it may have been a mess in the preparation of document forms. There are many conditions that must be met.
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                        I knew that you would bring this Plenum .. therefore, I wrote "I went through the court and participated in the elections," because if you even win the court after some time having reached the Supreme Court, the elections have already passed! nobody will hold them again because of you .. but you can be satisfied, you were right, but did not participate in the elections ..

                        P.S. and why is it that all problems with courts are almost always not found at EP, don’t you find it?
                  2. aybolyt678 13 May 2020 10: 08 New
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                    can you bring something specific?

                    Please just listen carefully: https://youtu.be/ZfECvqrR_-Q, if it doesn’t work, hammer it in YouTube: This has never happened in history. Which scenario is being implemented. Valentin Katasonov
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                      Please only carefully

                      Valentin Yurievich is a very eminent person in the circles of theorists from economics. But he was not noted by practical economy. The collective farm did not raise, the subject of the federation did not withdraw to the leaders of economic growth. There was a saying in the army - do not want to work, go learn how to work, do not want to learn how to work, go teach how to learn to work .... and then to infinity. He correctly sets forth all his ideas as Glazyev, but in his pocket he has several theories, and in practice it is not enough which forecast was realized. Let the regional leader steer about five years, then it will be possible to listen to him, and then not always. As you say dialectical materialism: "practice is the criterion of truth."
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      society is poisoned by the ideology of consumption and individualism!

      Actually, this is about consumption, and a little about individualism. Or do you think a communist should be a complete ascetic? In this case, you are unlikely to succeed in building it.
  • alone 12 May 2020 19: 09 New
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    When all structures and the ramification of power are concentrated in the hands of one force, the quantity or quality of parties does not play any role ..
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    Over the past twenty years, not a single new political force has appeared in the country that could really declare itself, go to parliament, compete not even with the party in power, but with the “eternal" Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party.

    Over the past twenty years nothing new has appeared at all. Actors, singers, politicians are the same people. Who got to the feeder and all divided strangers will not be allowed. Although the renewal is so necessary for the body, otherwise death or mutation.
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    So rethink the case of Khodorkovsky ..
    And also remember Zhirik and Volgodonsk.
  • steelmaker 12 May 2020 19: 15 New
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    No need to lie! Also tell me what the people for the pension reform of EP carry on their hands? The whole YouTube is littered with video of election violations. Therefore, the EP and the party in power, because the winners are not judged !!
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      [quote the winners are not judged !! [/ quote]
      And it would be necessary ...
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    Dreaming.
    "The former political parties are indeed becoming obsolete and the political future of Russian society will be associated with the emergence of already new political forces, possibly with new ideologies and organizational models."

    EDRO decides whom to finance. It gives money for pseudo opposition. From the Communist Party to the Liberal Democratic Party.
    And because of the virus, other news just surfaced, nice or not. And I had to retouch them, and not spend the money on PR pocket option. Yes, and it’s a pity to spend yours on all kinds of things there ... we wouldn’t get sick after the Italy boutiques ....

    And new .... What ??? I remember that there were OURS, LEADERS OF RUSSIA, NAC FRONT Putin, Anti-cad, Blue buckets, The essence of time and others. And where are they ??? In oblivion or half oblivion - the little piggy is not enough for all the money ...

    And all the recent crush. Provocateurs, money, greenbacks, pipes, Chechens and Cossacks, and plane crashes.

    Everything will be as before. Salvage is divided in silence ....
    1. depressant 12 May 2020 20: 36 New
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      Not quite in silence, colleague))
      Every day, comprehending new data on the coronavirus, I noticed that something strange is happening in the official information space, and this something can be characterized in one word - disagreement. Not being able to comprehend this same "discrepancy", went to the Internet. The echidna and even the evil blogosphere, having long buried the main party members of all stripes hiding in crowned caches as something politically vicious now means insignificant, put forward the assumption that right before our eyes two political parties are being formed, which will become the main ones. One of them is coronavirus. These are those who are happy with the epidemic, because they are rowing on masks, gloves and fines, investing in new hospitals, on the production of mechanical ventilation and protective suits, on drugs that increase immunity, and therefore want the epidemic to last forever. Hence the alleged data on an incredible and stable daily increase in the number of carriers of the virus. The second batch - "referenda", interested in an early vote on presidential amendments. From their point of view, mortality from coronavirus is supposedly so small compared to mortality from ordinary flu that, against the backdrop of a declining economy, it is time to tackle the epidemic as soon as possible by simply going to work everyone and vote as soon as possible on slightly forgotten constitutional amendments. This is like the party of blunt and pointed in Swift's Gulliver's Travels. Whether this is true or not, the discrepancy in the timing of the end of self-isolation within a month was obvious. Which leads to such fabrications))))
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        Quote: depressant
        One of them is coronavirus. These are those who are happy with the epidemic, because they are rowing on masks, gloves and fines, investing in new hospitals, on the production of mechanical ventilation and protective suits, on drugs that increase immunity, and therefore want the epidemic to last forever. Hence the alleged data on an incredible and stable daily increase in the number of carriers of the virus. The second batch - "referenda", interested in an early vote on presidential amendments.

        And there are probably "intermediaries". As we have, fines have been imposed for not wearing masks up to 30 thousand rubles, and do what you want.
        1. depressant 12 May 2020 22: 14 New
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          30 thousand?!? Stunned! To the beast!
          Surely the coast is lost. This is despite the fact that a simple mask needs to be thrown away upon arrival - everywhere they write about it. Well yes. Party of "intermediary-fines." We will call it simply "penal battalion."
      2. aybolyt678 12 May 2020 23: 01 New
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        Which leads to such fabrications))))

        watch the movie Insiders about the 2008 crisis. Put today's Baranovirus hysteria on him, and everything will fall into place. The hysteria is specially worked out and played out as if by notes. The media, politicians, the Duma bought by bankers act in their interests, being afraid of losing existing buns, everyone is comfortable: bankers do not need to blush for inflation, government officials for work, rulers for development ..... and some people will earn the most from masks at their cost price 2 rubles!
        looks like a test of loyalty to world bankers!
      3. Maks1995 12 May 2020 23: 37 New
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        These are trifles.
        Elite with the loot requires the fastest to expel all to work. They stopped poking their fingers at Trump and the rest, demanding the same.
        Serving elite wants to sit out the outbreak of the epidemic, at least to arrange everything for the further course.

        And then they get together again and promise, promise, promise.
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          Just watched the American film "Virus" from 2016. I recommend to all. There is a script. Like on the notes. It became disgusting. If it's true ... No words!
  • U-58 12 May 2020 19: 34 New
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    The author at first seems to be disingenuous, hinting at the phantom of the parties, but then corrects itself.
    If his maxims are translated into normal language, it turns out that he recognizes that any opposition has been gagged very tightly.
    Any attempts to break the "blockade" are ruthlessly suppressed.
    As a result, the average person creates a stable feeling of absence, and at best, fakeness of all parties, except for the “Only Russia” in the world.
    That is, the desired (by the authorities) is issued as reality.
    Thus, the opposition’s actions are quite successfully leveled.
    Which is very undemocratic in both form and content.
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      Quote: U-58

      As a result, the average person creates a stable feeling of absence, and at best, fakeness of all parties, except for the “Only Russia” in the world.

      No, the layman has a steady sense of the fakeness of ALL parties, without exception. But this is not a feeling, but a reality
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    The political system created in Russia is confidently opposed to the emergence of new parties and movements that could represent at least some kind of independence.


    And nothing more can be written. That says it all.
    Many justifiably value the stability of the 1+ party system. Well, the elections are now of the same "unpredictable" nature as the "sudden" training alarm "the day after tomorrow at 22-00" in the SA.
  • nikvic46 12 May 2020 19: 52 New
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    Perhaps the opposition parties know what we do not know? Remember in a famous tale Bagheera said a lamb. “When the ceasefire ends, it will be counted towards you.” When the Communist Party leaves materialism, it becomes not entirely clear. In general, the legislative assembly is an exact copy of the State. Duma. 1917.
  • Ross xnumx 12 May 2020 19: 58 New
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    Over the past twenty years, not a single new political force has appeared in the country that could really declare itself, go to parliament, compete not even with the party in power, but with the “eternal" Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party.

    Let me guess by whose fairy-tale will this happens? The movement (party) “For New Socialism” N.N. is gaining real strength. Platoshkina.
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      Quote: ROSS 42
      The movement (party) “For New Socialism” N.N. is gaining real strength. Platoshkina.

      Are you also a fountain of Balabol Platoshkin?
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        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        Are you also a fountain of Balabol Platoshkin?

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        Nikolai Nikolaevich sometimes says the very right things and he should be listened to, since he is a very erudite person. As for "balabolstvo", this is a feature of any social democracy, a lot of words and little business. That is why Lenin and the Bolshevik faction of the RSDLP (Social Democratic, mind you) have already switched to real work instead of all kinds of discussions and circle circles.
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          Quote: Altona
          Nikolai Nikolaevich sometimes says the very right things

          Well, he can’t lie openly all the time. Sometimes you need to tell the truth so that people believe.
      2. Ross xnumx 13 May 2020 04: 02 New
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        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        Are you also a fountain of Balabol Platoshkin?

        Who is the phonate?
        I will say bluntly that you, in all probability, are a fan of the “greatest” deeds and accomplishments of “United Russia” and an adorer of the promises and breakthroughs of the world famous “storyteller”, with the easy presentation of which the already rude life of the Russian people will not go into a new incarnation another five years ..
        One trouble, the opponents of Nikolai Nikolaevich in the meetings (debates) failed completely. And your “idol” still provides itself with ratings as an administrative resource (juggling the results of elections and polls), but in your life you have not held a single debate - disputes in which truth is born.
        Nikolai Platoshkin is the author of many monographs, textbooks and articles, including in such journals peer-reviewed by the Higher Attestation Commission as International Life, Military History Journal, and Journal of Foreign Law and Comparative Law. His dissertations are not plagiarized.
        And what did your “elite” publish? The Code of May Decrees? A Treatise of Economic Breakthroughs? “Late retirement theory of happiness”? "The fairy-tale dogma of the need to nullify the terms and amend the set of guarantees"?
        But you praise without fear of sin ... Anyway, everything is paid ...
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          One trouble, the opponents of Nikolai Nikolayevich in the meetings (debates) failed completely.

          I watched his debate with Semin, which he shamefully leaked. All his arguments in which boiled down to aggressive demagogy and an attempt to shut up an opponent with ascribing to Semin all nonsense and outright rudeness.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Nikolai Platoshkin is the author of many monographs, textbooks and articles, including in such journals peer-reviewed by the Higher Attestation Commission as International Life, Military History Journal, and Journal of Foreign Law and Comparative Law. His dissertations are not plagiarized.

          So what? What gives a XNUMX% guarantee of infallibility and immediately provides high moral qualities? Do you at least try to comprehend what nonsense he brings and compare with what the classics of Marxism wrote and said. At least his pearls about the legal elections with which he was going to come to power. I don’t speak about the absence of a distinct economic program.
          Quote: ROSS 42
          And what did your “elite” publish?

          About as if against Platoshkin it means right behind EP. Let me tell you a terrible secret, your Platoshkin and EP are essentially the same thing. So you get us for EP.
  • eklmn 12 May 2020 20: 03 New
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    The author, Ilya Polonsky, apparently has not lived in Russia for a long time. Otherwise, I would understand that parties exist to combat the dictatorship of one opinion, or, in Gorbachev’s way, for “pluralism of opinions”. Each party should have its own “style” - a look at the country's development, its economy, finances, social spending, pensions / hospitals / military expenses, etc. And through their media to convey their views / opinions to their citizens and if they like, they will support, but no, then there is no party. But “pluralism of opinions” is also expressed in criticism of another opinion or criticism of the existing decision. And here, just 1937. In Russia. The goalkeeper was fined for criticizing the rights of 1,4 million rubles !! For criticism !!! It’s good that they didn’t plant it, but then, in fact, the article exists !!! What kind of party pluralism of opinions can we talk about if this is the dictatorship of One Party !!!
    Ilya, author, where do you live?
    1. really 12 May 2020 21: 08 New
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      If the author didn’t live in Russia, he would understand
      1. eklmn 12 May 2020 21: 11 New
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        You are right - with logic I got a mistake !! wink
        1. really 12 May 2020 21: 13 New
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          Standard wordings sometimes let us down drinks
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      You have not correctly asked Ilya a question. Not “where do you live,” but how do you live?
      Being still determines consciousness.
      It is clear that the ruling regime does not exist in a vacuum. He completely relies on the support of 25-30% of the prosperous living population.
      The trouble is that this incomplete third of the electorate determines the life of the remaining 70%, usurping the rights to the FSE, including the right to the ultimate truth.
  • ABM
    ABM 12 May 2020 20: 14 New
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    Yes, we need a new patriotic party!
    1. IS-80_RVGK2 12 May 2020 20: 40 New
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      I’m afraid that some patriotic patriots will not stand the country.
      1. U-58 13 May 2020 05: 12 New
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        I suppose that will withstand.
        For under the guise of patriots, the ruling regime will populate the people with its OWN creation, completely loyal. Odinny figures will go into the shadows, and at the head will put someone like Poklonskaya.
        At the same time, the sheep will be full and the wolves are safe
    2. Altona 12 May 2020 20: 49 New
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      Yes, we need a new patriotic party!

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      The saddest thing is that many "new patriots" are also ready to sell the country only for less money, although this does not negate the greed of the "old patriots".
      1. really 12 May 2020 21: 33 New
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        Indeed, knocking down prices is not good, the phrase, our dear patriots, will sound a little false laughing
        1. Altona 12 May 2020 21: 39 New
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          Indeed, knocking down prices is not good, the phrase, our dear patriots, will sound a little false

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          And in general, there is already a monopoly on "patriotism". It is said that the correct “patriotism” is not “fermented and not musty”, and it sells well. It is not good to arrange cartel conspiracies behind him. laughing
          1. really 12 May 2020 21: 51 New
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            Just when the old are too expensive, you have to look for new, cheaper, only business .... wassat
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              Cool said, really, offset!
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                Thank you for your kind word. drinks
            2. IS-80_RVGK2 13 May 2020 10: 22 New
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              Well, the crisis is economic. Cost reduction required. Yes, and an overabundance of patriotism in the market for the same reason.
    3. eklmn 13 May 2020 01: 27 New
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      “Yes, we need a new patriotic party!”
      Here is the president_in_ law and offers to create it!
      (from MK)
      “Putin just gave an interview where he said that patriotism is the Russian national idea.
      PUTIN. “Patriotism consists in devoting oneself to the development of a country, its progress. And this does not mean at all that you need to grab all the time only for our heroic past. We need to look into our equally heroic and successful future. ”
      “He promised a heroic future. And where is heroism needed? Not a single one (in the wormwood after a drowning child or a burning house), but a massive one, which is promised to the whole country. Massive popular heroism is needed only in war. It is needed only in difficult times, in hopeless circumstances. Heroism necessarily requires sacrifice.
      .
      From the song “The Song Helps Us Build and Live ...”
      We will all get, understand and discover:
      The cold pole and the arch are blue.
      When a country be ordered by a hero,
      Anyone becomes a hero with us!
      This is an amazing phrase: "When the country orders, anyone becomes our hero." It’s not so easy to become a hero by order. And what does “country command” mean? A country (forests, fields and rivers, villages and cities, peasants, engineers, doctors and teachers) never orders such a thing. It orders a power that identifies itself with a country. Whether it is the emperor or the secretary general or the president, they are still people. They can order, but they are not a country. So let’s think what statement is closer to us: “When a country orders to be a hero, anyone becomes a hero with us” or “Is that country that needs heroes unhappy”? It was in the same 1930s that Bertolt Brecht, a great friend of the Soviet Union, wrote. He had to leave his homeland when the authorities ordered the Germans to become heroes. Starting in May 1945, they were no longer ordered to do so. ”
      If you understand something from this, then think - is a patriotic party needed? Or brains for power?
  • rocket757 12 May 2020 20: 16 New
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    There is no such thing, absolutely impossible .... we just don’t know, we don’t know yet, or we’re not doing enough work.
    The time has passed when it was possible to "grab a sweet Kusman" by simply scolding someone for something!
    To press on the ears of society is futile, a significant part of the population is deaf or does not believe in any slogans and promises!
    But on matters evaluated, will be evaluated and will be evaluated ALWAYS. Such is her life, without labor you won’t get a tail or scales.
  • Altona 12 May 2020 20: 32 New
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    Nevertheless, the police should not have touched Valery Fyodorovich Rashkin, since the deputy is inviolable. The deputy is the chosen one of the people. And the police in the picture obstructed Rashkin and his assistant. There is nothing wrong with coming out with the banner of Victory on Victory Day.
    In the country, by the way, a vacuum of power, the old Constitution was crushed, and the new was not adopted. Without a nationwide discussion and referendum (not just a plebiscite), the Constitution will not be a legitimate document, since it laid the foundations of state power, rather than nullifying one person with "generous" social handouts. As for the opposition, the non-systemic opposition raises its head.
    Fascism in the face of a major mayor who seeks to project his influence also raises his head. Federal ministers and some heads of territories have already rushed to his camp. There are already several points of political power that the author decided not to notice.
    By the way, the conditional movement of Navalny (the same MBH and others pushed aside) also approved cruel "quarantine" measures, though with a "helicopter" distribution of money, but in this case it’s not interesting, but the approval of restricting the rights and freedoms of citizens. That is, there is clearly kicking the ball all the same liberal goal, but a little under a different sauce. And this is apparently in favor of the oligarchs, who are tired of the super "energy superpower", which has recently been reset by "our partners" with BV.
    There is a conditionally leftist, but in fact the Social Democratic opposition in the person of the same Nikolai Platoshkin. Other leftists, as well as national-patriotic forces, advocating for the strengthening of Russian industrial capital and the development of territories, are trying to play in the same field. The Communist Party in the person of Zyuganov is also undergoing a transformation, since Zyuganov’s compromise is clearly visible and this alone cannot be explained by maneuvers in the legal field as a “systemic opposition”.
    1. depressant 13 May 2020 00: 55 New
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      Yes, Altona ... It seems. Power vacuum. I don’t remember exactly who, but here, at VO, someone suggested that Putin’s appeal to the Federal Assembly so early in the year (January 15, and not in the spring), and even with a humiliating proposal to nullify his presidency, resignation government - it was all like trying to stop a conspiracy through the support of the people in the form of a vote by vote. Apparently, that colleague was right. Sobyanin confidently gained political weight among the governors, and now he has an implicit, but really existing party of "coronaviruses." Sluggish, in fact, no domestic policy of Putin is pretty tired of everyone. It slows down the development of the country and generally slows down. I'd love to think the opposite, but no matter how hard I try, it doesn’t work out. And now he, as the head of the party of “corrections”, drove the people who had materially lowered him from self-isolation into an epidemic that was gaining momentum (ill health!) In order to rely on him in the vote on amendments and thereby break the power ambitions of Sobyanin. The top of cruelty and cynicism.
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        and now he has an implicit

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        In today's situation of complete political lack of will, the transition to fascism seems very attractive and justified. Even here on the forum voices are heard in favor of the “great leader”, if only to become “the greatest superpower” again. Only one thing is encouraging, the money for fascism is also stolen like money to disperse clouds over Moscow on May 9.
  • seacap 12 May 2020 20: 32 New
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    According to my philistine opinion, the latter, more or less like a parliament, was shot from tanks by the Yeltsin group, who was rampaging and stupid from permissiveness and irresponsibility. And this is just an imitation of a pseudo-democratic institution for plebs and surroundings, it seems that we, like everyone else, have it. And what they called the Duma is just a parasitic organization, absolutely not responsible for anything at all, with different departments-offices, like parties, names are different, but there is one cash desk and accountant, a sort of interest club, as there are no parties , there are functionaries appointed from above for the appearance of democracy, named differently. Their (so-called deputies) servility is confirmed by the speed with which so-called anti-people and destroying the state at first demand from above, not even that of the demand, but simply even if these are thoughts aloud from the Olympus. You can’t forget how they jumped up and applauded (well, they didn’t thump on their knees), when a shabby overseas deputy accidentally glanced in, making a mistake with the door, it would be interesting if the Senate would also react to our “stray” one. In order for me to change at least something, it is necessary for the deputy to receive a median salary in his region, regular accountability, so that the region’s voters have the opportunity to revoke his representative’s mandate if he is unprofessional and does not comply with his duties, as well as according to the results of his work, access to the “body” of voters should be free at any time. And most importantly, the life and life of the elected representative should be determined by the laws that they adopted for the country, and not according to their own for the upper class, housing, pension, etc. We do not choose the boyars in the inherited estate, but representatives of the people, only they immediately sat down in an armchair and forget about it. For some reason, after the end of his powers, the American president can return to his workplace or look for a new one, but you cannot knock ours out with Olympus with a stick, once you get there, they carry them out only in a coffin.
    1. Altona 12 May 2020 21: 07 New
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      And what was called the Duma is just a parasitic organization, absolutely not responsible for anything, with different departments

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      The saddest thing is that the so-called deputies do not even write complex laws, but vote for "blanks" from the Presidential Administration, which in turn orders their writing to "law firms", and then simply vote. And this is for such crazy money.
    2. really 12 May 2020 21: 57 New
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      The American is trying to earn a name, and after a cadence or two, translate into money, or he has already earned to the presidency. In the second country, resignation is a threat to life, an imperial tradition.
  • AB
    AB 12 May 2020 20: 36 New
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    Party? Which parties? There are clubs for financial interests. Each so-called party lobbies its interests and spits on the life of the common people from the Duma heights. And the whole non-systemic opposition is a bunch of people who want to break into financial flows. Well, who will allow them to power. There is never much money ...
  • zwlad 12 May 2020 20: 41 New
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    Glory to the CPSU (EP)
    Yes, disperse them all and send the released finances to the social network.
    So much dough can be saved in the elections
    1. tatra 12 May 2020 21: 48 New
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      The most interesting thing is that those who equalize the CPSU and the EP, “with foam at the mouth” prove how “now it’s better than with the Communists,” BUT if you vote on the attitude towards the CPSU and the EP, none of you will be for EP , and all selflessly rush to anger against the Communist Party. This is the essence of the enemies of the Communists - not for each other and their anti-Soviet power, but against the Communists and their supporters all together.
  • demo 12 May 2020 21: 06 New
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    Of course, I understand that all three "mammoths" - Zyuganov, Mironov and Zhirinovsky, are not the same age, and their brains most likely work "with a scratch", but do you have youth in the parties?
    How to earn points in your favor?
    Easily.
    Order a million or two million masks with the logo of the party and distribute to those in need.
    Contact the crisis headquarters with a proposal to send volunteers, party members to fight the virus and provide assistance to those in need.
    And it's all in the colors of the party, with flags and banners.
    Cars with party emblems drive around the districts and collect requests from "isolated" citizens.
    And every evening a report on the Internet - to whom, how much, when. And lists of those in need.
    Lord.
    It is so simple.
    But for me.
    And for the blockheads, who “stand for a day and hold out for a night” in my opinion have nothing to give birth to.
    1. Altona 12 May 2020 21: 13 New
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      Quote: demo
      It is so simple.
      But for me.

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      By the way, they tried to implement your idea. This, for example, the "Alliance of Doctors", supervised by Navalny and like the Communist Party. But such attempts at free distribution of personal protective equipment and medicines or their transfer to other territories were brutally suppressed by the police under the pretext of "violation of the isolation regime."
      1. demo 12 May 2020 21: 14 New
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        Whoever wants is looking for a way.
        Who does not want is looking for a reason.
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          Quote: demo
          Whoever wants is looking for a way.
          Who does not want is looking for a reason.

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          Nevertheless, Anastasia Vasilyeva inherited from the police.
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      There is nothing more complicated than simple. From your proposal, for all its understandability and attractiveness (and this is me seriously), the naivet of a young piglet (or child) blows.
      Here are the masks. Whether they are made in your version, they will immediately follow for burning. No scandals and extra noise. No matter how much you imagine Zyuganov a tame bear on a leash in power, he and his party are in constant and strict quarantine. They don’t give and will not give anything worthwhile. To avoid....
      These are the "democratic" realities of the current regime
  • Shahno 12 May 2020 21: 24 New
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    Party? What is this ?. You have a supreme leader. You are not in the know?
    1. demo 12 May 2020 21: 27 New
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      Trolling counted. good
  • Shahno 12 May 2020 21: 28 New
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    Quote: demo
    Trolling counted. good

    Yes, this is not trolling.
    What the hell are parties to you under the Supreme Leader?
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      So I think so too. What for. A pocket thought and SF what the hell? Only expenses are one for the state.
      For many centuries, one man has ruled in Russia. Leader of the state. There used to be a tsar, then Lenin, then Stalin, then other top officials of the CPSU. And Nitsche, the country developed itself until the reformers came and ruined it. Che, we are in front of the west creeping playing shit democracy. A strong leader is a strong country, a weak leader is a weak country and complete collapse. We need a strong vertical of power and we will be happy. But we will talk with the opposition like Nikolai 2 and the Bolsheviks are again profucing the country.
      Yes. I do not impose my opinions on anyone
      PS
      If during the reign of the CPSU there wouldn’t have been these incomprehensible demonstrations, it’s not clear what is incomprehensible to whom now I would not have organic rejection of them for the Communists
      1. Altona 13 May 2020 00: 15 New
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        Quote: zwlad
        A strong leader is a strong country, a weak leader is a weak country and complete collapse. We need a strong vertical of power and we will be happy. But we will talk with the opposition like Nikolai 2 and the Bolsheviks are again profucing the country.

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        Is a strong leader who is being puffed up on television or who makes strong decisions in favor of the whole society? And even more so enjoys the authority of the majority.
        The second question: "lisp" is a sausage of any discontent, even if it is completely justified?
        The third question: What does it mean to "fuck the country"? When money and natural resources are quietly exported, does this mean not "profuka country", but "patriotic" to conduct business?
        In general, your points are not entirely clear. From the outside, all this looks like a bourgeois desire for a "strong hand and the Fuhrer," no matter what, if only he would shut his mouth for any reason.
        The late CPSU was a very complex phenomenon. At the top are leaders who are degenerating into bourgeois, below are a mass of honest communists who believe that we are going right. When the degenerates finally took control of the party, then the dismantling of the country began. This is very exaggerated of course. Why you didn’t have a rejection, there simply wasn’t such flashy luxury yet, it appeared a bit later.
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          1. Which makes strong decisions, for example, the restoration of the Armed Forces, the Navy (and hence the industry), Crimea, Syria, the Arctic.
          2. Not to talk about it means crushing the buds of revolutionaries such as Bolsheviks, Socialist Revolutionaries, organizers of Bolotnaya and other similar "protests." Want to change
          3. Foul the country-as it is Nicholas 2 and the late CPSU fouled, there was an empire remained a piece.
          "Why didn’t you have rejection, just there wasn’t such flashy luxury yet, it appeared a bit later." - But I do not see any luxury in our region. and Moscow for me, excuse me, is a different country.
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            Quote: zwlad
            1. Which makes strong decisions, for example, the restoration of the Armed Forces, the Navy (and hence the industry), Crimea, Syria, the Arctic.
            2. Not to talk about it means crushing the buds of revolutionaries such as Bolsheviks, Socialist Revolutionaries, organizers of Bolotnaya and other similar "protests." Want to change
            3. Foul the country-as it is Nicholas 2 and the late CPSU fouled, there was an empire remained a piece.
            "Why didn’t you have rejection, just there wasn’t such flashy luxury yet, it appeared a bit later." - But I do not see any luxury in our region. and Moscow for me, excuse me, is a different country.

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            Let's start from the end? 1.
            1. If the capital is another country, then the rest of the country is apparently a colony for the capital.
            2. Why Nicholas 2 and the late Communist Party of the Soviet Union profaned, please open the reasons.
            3. How to restore the Navy? The only aircraft-carrying cruiser is not operational, frigates have been built for years. And to what sizes restored? To the scale of the Soviet? Industry? Hmm, I work in it myself, I see how it "developed".
            4. Crimea, Syria, the Arctic? In Syria, it is not clear what. There was a military base in Crimea before that, with the help of which, in principle, it was easy to attach. The Arctic and icebreakers have also been since Soviet times.
            5. A greater revolutionary than the power itself does not exist, it creates signs of a revolutionary situation — poverty, a collapse of governance, and so on. No Bolsheviks and Martians will do this. To crush the protests? That is, to beat the dissatisfied? Well, what if tomorrow the power changes and they beat you? Or "us for what"? Did Bloody Sunday of 1905 teach nothing?
            1. zwlad 13 May 2020 09: 37 New
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              Well, let's from the end.
              1. Where do we have signs of a revolutionary situation? The current fermentation is a consequence of the fact that someone pinched the tail. Where is poverty? I look out the window, some foreign cars on the road. Housing is being built a lot, apparently for show. There’s nobody to buy it (with poverty then). Yes, with retirees the situation is bad. So fix it. Put together a batch. Unite like-minded people to achieve a majority in parliament and change laws. But the revolutionaries, but to crush in the bud so that the country is not rocked.
              2. Crimea could easily be fooled if only Navalny and Sobchaki were at the helm. If I am not mistaken they were against joining. Syria is a base for the fleet and a testing ground for armaments and intelligence acquisition of weapons partners. This has always been the case with the USSR. Those icebreakers that have been since the days of the USSR have long been scrapped. Need a replacement, the development of the Arctic is now an influx of budget money in 10-15 years. New icebreakers are jobs for hundreds of thousands of people.
              3. The only aircraft carrier cruiser is time to write off, but this is the image of the country. and so he is not able to become the heart of AUG. And why do we need in the foreseeable future AUG as the states? Our BTA is capable of delivering a landing almost anywhere. It is very difficult to restore industry to the level of the USSR in a decade and a half of collapse without resorting to Stalinist methods. but nobody wants this. truth? But new enterprises are being built in our region, and these are new jobs.
              4. Why is Nicholas 2 profiled? Because he did not strangle the revolutionaries financed by the West in time. Because it got into a war that Russia did not need. Well, in the USSR everything is quite simple. It is better to be the first person in a small independent country than it is not clear to anyone in a vast empire.
              5. Well, in our region a lot of people think so.
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                Quote: zwlad
                It is very difficult to restore industry to the level of the USSR in a decade and a half of collapse without resorting to Stalinist methods. but nobody wants this. truth?

                What does an outstanding economist mean by Stalinist methods? I'd love to hear. Suddenly a miracle will happen and it will not be the nonsense that is usually carried.
                Quote: zwlad
                Why is Nikolai 2 profiled? Because he did not strangle the revolutionaries financed by the West in time.

                How simple it is for you, all the problems in the country and the crisis of the system do not care, the main thing is to pick up the revolutionaries.
                Quote: zwlad
                Well, in the USSR everything is quite simple. It is better to be the first person in a small independent country than it is not clear to anyone in a vast empire.

                It is rather a consequence. The main cause of the problem in the economy.
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                  I’m never an economist and even not outstanding.
                  methods? make work work, work and work again. put talented people at key places and strictly ask them. Dissent to Siberia. did not manage - there too.
                  Why not buy and copy. can't copy - buy production.
                  By the way. I didn’t drink with you at the Brudershaft.
                  And about the main reasons for the collapse of the USSR, apparently you can tell us here once
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                  It is rather a consequence. The main cause of the problem in the economy.
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                Quote: zwlad
                4. Why is Nicholas 2 profiled? Because he did not strangle the revolutionaries financed by the West in time. Because it got into a war that Russia did not need. Well, in the USSR everything is quite simple. It is better to be the first person in a small independent country than it is not clear to anyone in a vast empire.
                5. Well, in our region a lot of people think so.

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                The brilliant answer of an unknowing person.
                1. Nicholas 2 overthrew his own environment, at least revered history. It will be the same with the current king, he will be overthrown by the conspirators from above and everything is already ready there. That is, you will weigh sticks to ordinary citizens who are simply unhappy. And you certainly won’t touch the big fish, just out of cowardly bourgeois motives. Even Lenin doubted that he would be able to accomplish anything, and in 1917 the cat was crying, 4 or 5 thousand people were crying all over Russia.
                2.You want to put “capable people” in key places there. The trouble is that talented people don’t pay with us, and they won’t work with you. Not with you personally, but with people with your conditional thinking.
                3. I do not see new industrial enterprises, and those that are barely surviving. Foreign cars on credit bought from those I know. Jobs garbage is full, they pay a penny.
                4. As for the conditional Sobchak, who spoke out against Crimea, it’s just rhetoric in opposition. And by the way, an attempt to explain the problems in the economy by the great-power Wishlist.
                In general, if you have a beautiful picture before your eyes as you described, then let it be. I have a slightly different picture.
                1. zwlad 14 May 2020 08: 54 New
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                  1. History is a strange thing, under the USSR we were taught one thing, under EBN it already became different, under Putin it became the third. and I interpret it in my own way based on my experience. Further. Nobody will overthrow Putin, do not carry nonsense. When the time comes, he will be replaced by another person, and the course will remain.
                  But Nicholas 2 was overthrown and the country went in a completely different direction. Feel the difference.
                  2. None of these capable under Stalin asked whether they want to work with someone specifically. (read at least some question the answer was)
                  3. I do not know where you live; I live in sunny Mordovia. And only in the last 3 years we have opened several enterprises. Moreover, built from scratch. Issuing knowledge-intensive and import-substituting products. (if it’s interesting to google what we have built, I’m too lazy) I generally keep quiet about the agricultural complex, as in almost every district we have holdings that produce basic food products, poultry, meat, eggs, milk and all milk, cheeses, etc. The republic on food is not only self-sufficient, but also lucky in other regions.
                  about foreign cars on credit. yes on credit. only in my environment for 3 years all pay for them. at the same time in the summer calmly go on vacation in the summer.
                  You just need to work and not whine about the difficulties.
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                  As for the conditional Sobchak, who spoke out against Crimea, it’s just rhetoric in opposition.

                  do not tell me, the position against the government, even if it is right, is frankly stupid. and with stupid people I am not on the way.
                  I'm taking my leave on the sim
                  1. Altona 15 May 2020 08: 28 New
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                    3. I do not know where you live; I live in sunny Mordovia. And only in the last 3 years we have opened several enterprises.

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                    I live nearby, in sunny Chuvashia. As for "several enterprises have opened," so several enterprises have probably closed. In general, you have a video blogger Andrei Semenov sitting in Saransk, I watch his channel from time to time, I don’t agree with him at all, but he sees the picture a bit different and he thinks almost like me about the industry. And he has about 50 thousand subscribers. So one of you is lying. Given that 50 thousand subscribers who agree with him, you are most likely lying.
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                      I am glad that the video blogger Semenov has 50 thousand subscribers. Willingly I believe that all video bloggers speak and publish the truth and only the truth! Apparently, he doesn’t just write, but gives some figures, facts, events.
                      However, there is such a good site, called for an honest business. and so it contains all the relevant financial information for most Russian enterprises. There you can see all the main enterprises of Mordovia. I won’t give a list, if you find it interesting yourself. And as for the other picture, I will say this, the picture is always the same, just looking at it from different angles, you will see different things.
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                      Given that 50 thousand subscribers who agree with him, you are most likely lying.

                      to prove to you that I’m not lying, I will not, it’s not interesting to me. Want to convict me of a lie - go ahead!
      2. U-58 13 May 2020 05: 36 New
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        Heh! That is, you need a strong leader. Be it the king or the secretary general. If only strong.
        Great Mighty Cliff, sparkling Fight with a foot in the sky, Living until cars disappear ©
        1. zwlad 13 May 2020 08: 32 New
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          Give an example of a prosperous, dynamically developing country with a weak leader (precisely under him), whom the entire opposition, as it were more correctly put it, twirls as it wants.
          1. U-58 13 May 2020 08: 41 New
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            Well, I will give you two examples. And what, your point of view will change ?.
            Your position will remain the same, so do not ...
            Moreover, the point is not in the leader, but in the dominant system.
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              And that our system is very different? We are politically now somewhere in the 30s of the last century of capitalism, if not at all the year before. And we still need a more stable system to go and go. The question is where do we get, capitalism ala Europe, or capitalism ala China.
              In any case, you must go straight and not staggering.

              All the same, you give an example, in order to improve education (as it were)
              1. U-58 13 May 2020 09: 54 New
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                Switzerland. What do you know about the power of the politicians who lead the country?
                I don’t know anything.
                Italy. I can not say anything about the weaknesses of the prime ministers. But the speed and ease with which governments change in Italy prevent politicians from displaying all their political power.
                However, both countries are quite prosperous, because the system of power operates there - political, economic, military, and indeed all.
                1. zwlad 13 May 2020 10: 33 New
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                  Thanks for the examples!
                  There these systems were formed well for a very long time.
                  And in only one century we had 3 changes of power.
                  And Italy is not quite an independent state.
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                    Quote: zwlad
                    And Italy is not quite an independent state.

                    and Switzerland is so direct sovereign that everyone is jealous ??? !!! what laughing
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                      Switzerland generally weigh in itself. As Hitler did not gut her, I generally wonder. There are so many interesting things stored in banks. What if everything accidentally opens up a lot of extremely unpleasant will come out.
                      But as an example, a country will do just fine.
                      But we will go the other way
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                        Quote: zwlad
                        But as an example, a country will do just fine.

                        c'mon ... you don’t even have your own language !!! wassat it exists as long as there is no serious schucher ... with large-scale kneading and even with a slight desire of any of the influential parties, Switzerland will cease to exist in a matter of hours !!! request wink
                      2. zwlad 14 May 2020 07: 28 New
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                        it does not matter. I asked for an example he gave. Everything is fair
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                        Quote: zwlad
                        it does not matter. I asked for an example he gave. Everything is fair

                        so needed an example of a country, not a dubious territorial entity !!! wink wassat
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                        weird. And on all maps it is indicated as a sovereign state. Come on, don’t cling to a person
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                  As Hitler did not gut her, I generally wonder. There are so many interesting things stored in banks.

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                  Hitler was allowed to gut only what was allowed. Switzerland was needed as a platform for negotiations and other matters. Anyway, why touch a country with a fully complementary population? The same as Austria.
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            Quote: U-58
            Switzerland. What do you know about the power of the politicians who lead the country?
            I don’t know anything.
            Italy. I can not say anything about the weaknesses of the prime ministers. But the speed and ease with which governments change in Italy prevent politicians from displaying all their political power.
            However, both countries are quite prosperous, because the system of power operates there - political, economic, military, and indeed all.

            howeveroooooooo ... no wonder you were embarrassed to give an example !!! wink laughing
  • Ivan Kolodin 12 May 2020 22: 20 New
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    It’s just that you don’t get on our TV, everything is on the Internet as from May 9 people turn red flags worse than in Ukraine ... We all ended up with a broken trough ....
    We take the period of our country 1921-1941 and 2000-2020 and here and there we have 20 years of development and what are the results of the modern period .... As we were told, the Pechenegs are to blame .... That we have optimized medicine and the economy for one .. And indeed, everything except the rocking of gas and oil ... Although here now it will have to be reduced ....
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      and most importantly, they started with the “optimization” of the once great power, the difference is that then in the 20s progress began from nothing to the greatest power, and in the 90s the regression from the power to a semi-colonial country with a “pipe” and external economic management .
  • zwlad 12 May 2020 22: 58 New
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    Minusers - there is no desire to justify what is wrong?
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      Quote: zwlad
      Minusers - there is no desire to justify what is wrong?

      I didn’t minus you - but I think the fact is that during the 20 years of Stalin’s rule (1929 - collectivization - people with a plow and horses) and 1949 - the USSR already with a "vigorous loaf and a WWII won) = this is one ...
      And 2000 was a rampant crime, there was nothing for the people to eat - it was replaced by 2020 for a power rampant, and there was nothing for the people to eat anyway - here many people start to wonder if you are right in your statements - that's why, I think, they put you cons recourse
      1. zwlad 13 May 2020 07: 16 New
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        Well I do not know. Thanks to this revelry, our factory is still afloat and the production growth was somewhere around% 120 over 3 years. And last year, 4 billion people did and feeds 3000 rubles. Although not black caviar.
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          Well I do not know. Thanks to this revelry, our factory is still afloat and the production growth was somewhere around% 120 over 3 years. And last year, 4 billion people did and feeds 3000 rubles. Although not black caviar.

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          What kind of plant is this? Not a Ruzayevsky car building? Did you do 1000 wagons in about a year?
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            No. Electric rectifier. Ruzayevsky car building 25 km from us. I won’t say about 1000 cars, but what they did a lot, yes, the head at the bottom of the machine builder said
            1. Altona 15 May 2020 09: 59 New
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              Electric rectifier.

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              A lot of people work for you. Now there are almost no such enterprises, we have reduced to a maximum of 500 people for all, and there were also 2000-5000 people with the number of enterprises.
              1. zwlad 15 May 2020 10: 22 New
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                We have minimal automation of production, a large number of manual assembly work, a lot of unique unique products, so there are so many people
                we had 11000 people once
                1. Altona 15 May 2020 10: 34 New
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                  We have minimal automation of production

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                  I understood that, because by installing one CNC lathe I conditionally “knock out” two highly qualified turners, instead of them you can put more or less sensible young “pinocchio”, and teach one to write simple programs for the machine and zero bindings. Of course, nobody dismisses universal wagons, they just do more complex work, then you will find them figs. A CNC machine will simply more accurately squander a place for a bearing, for example, on a simple sleeve or flange.
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                    No, you misunderstood. Automation is not always possible to use.
                    And so, CNC machines, laser systems, waterjet cutting - all this is there. But this is all procurement production, so to speak, for the manufacture of all kinds of frame casings and other iron.
                    A large number of people are engaged in continuous semiconductor production. This is a cycle from the production of single-crystal silicon to the output of "power" diodes, thyristors, etc.
                    And then all this must be gathered together, tested. All manual labor.
                    Plus two research and engineering centers. So 3000 people are running
                    1. Altona 15 May 2020 10: 52 New
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                      A large number of people are engaged in continuous semiconductor production. This is a cycle from the production of single-crystal silicon to the output of "power" diodes, thyristors, etc.

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                      It is very strange that you are still alive as one. They try to break up such productions into several firms.
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                        Well, somehow it happened that they remained one
  • Knell wardenheart 13 May 2020 02: 26 New
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    Our political parties have long overgrown with moss and lichens. the "leaders" are old and overgrown with fat businesses and, of course, carts of incriminating evidence, which if something happens .. On the other hand, you don’t need a whip either — and a big carrot too — they are unfastened, they serve by playing in democracy. They don’t play very much, Stanislavsky would say "I DO NOT BELIEVE!" , but ordinary citizens who come into the light of domestic TV are unpretentious, neither in terms of the plot, nor in terms of the game. At one time, people also saw enough of the epic transformation of a hefty part of the Central Committee of the CPSU and former fiery Komsomol members - and concluded that all these fiery speeches, etc., are a kind of spell or marriage ritual, in general this is a kind of performance, but by no means an effective procedure for change of power. Will there be a change? No, for the majority of the inhabitants of our country there will be no changes) Uncle Zyu and Zhirik long ago became media personalities a la Alla Pugacheva and Philip Kirkorov (or Leonid Yakubovich, for example).
    Hope for those to whom + - 30, and such a minority and they are pretty apolitical - they are not up to politics, they chop $$$. A significant part of them tacitly supports the ruling party - because they are state employees and they are afraid of some kind of radical change. Those who are not afraid - have no idea how to conduct political activity because by their nature and way of thinking they are pure "sprinters" with clip thinking - they need a sort of Navalny but stylistically close to Putin, so that the drive is both decent and somewhat conservative ( and young, of course). There are none, so we are waiting for now, Sobchak, Prokhorov, Titov, etc., in general, "intrigue."
  • Fevralsk. Morev 13 May 2020 05: 20 New
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    The reason for the lack of political life in the country is one of the leaders of the parliamentary opposition, old grandfathers, pensioners. For them, the best thing is to sit on a bench in the park in silence, and not in this park at a rally to rip a throat. The salary is not weak, there is a pension, so they go with the flow. I have nothing against the elderly. But they cannot repeat the deed of Pavka Korchagin (not literally). And yet, to be completely honest, he has worked in a high-level leadership post for more than a dozen years, to put it mildly, Bronze. He believes that nothing needs to be changed, because it works. He is the most intelligent, wise and infallible.
  • Ros 56 13 May 2020 06: 46 New
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    All these comrades are already living quite well, so why should they fuss if this does not bring additional dividends? What are you talking about? All of them are opportunists, have found a warm place and live, live, neither grief nor trouble. About to change something in the country, and at least the economic structure, you have to fuss, run around, put forward theories and demands on the authorities and on oneself. Look for new people with a head and new ideas, substantiate your vision of the political and economic situation in the country and the world, and much more. They are already old, they just have another stagnation.
  • Felix Chuykov 13 May 2020 08: 08 New
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    From the Soviet Information Bureau

    Fascism and other faces
    Submissive only to Soviet power!

    Felix Chuykov

    09 February 2019 year
  • Growlers 13 May 2020 09: 44 New
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    The gentlemen who grew up under the CPSU are used to seeing the image of the party, albeit with the ugly survivals inherited from the time of Khrushchev, but still the party. The fact that the author and everyone else accepts “parties” as just business projects. All of them are created for a specific purpose, such as the Russian Orthodox Church or the Communist Party. Mostly they are interested in money, power, influence, which you agree with does not meet the declared goals. I knowingly called these two organizations. The Russian Orthodox Church is primarily interested in money and behind-the-scenes power, which again makes it possible to earn money, too sanctified are carried away by money and power. They "worked out" before the split of Orthodoxy, the dominance of private American "churches" in Russia, which lose the struggle for souls in full. The Communist Party quietly exists on state subsidies and I’m not afraid of the word, on the trade in deputy seats, otherwise there are so many scandals and odious people with party tickets. Many are misled by speculation on communist slogans and symbolism. But the petty-bourgeois essence of both the party and its leaders is impossible to hide. And there is no forward movement, both in the political party of the Russian Orthodox Church and in the Communist Party, which means that the “leaders” are satisfied with their income and their status. In the rest of the so-called "parties" everything is still the same, if not worse, because many exist only at the expense of a foreign financial and propaganda resource.
  • Herman 4223 13 May 2020 18: 47 New
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    Yes, all these parties are just a circus for the people.
    Our government, it is not in Russia at all and is not for Russia.
    Here is a little about the communists.
    https://youtu.be/nNkEam4Hfys
  • aglet 13 May 2020 18: 51 New
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    When do you tell VO readers what the Communists proposed to do for the people, and how the Edrovites responded to this

    offer is the easiest. to achieve the result is difficult, you need to work. so they offer, they raise their rating, and you are being conducted
  • aglet 13 May 2020 18: 58 New
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    I look out the window, some foreign cars on the road. Housing is being built a lot, apparently for show. There’s nobody to buy it (with poverty then)

    let’s specify credit foreign cars, we don’t have ours anymore. and have you bought a house for a long time, or do you still live in your grandmother’s apartment?
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      I AM? In 2004, I took 69 kVM kopeck on a mortgage. Already paid. Two of my siblings also bought an apartment somewhere in the apartment somewhere in 2011 and another odnushka in 2013. If my sulerosis doesn’t change me, they paid too. And for what purpose are you interested in?
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    In any case, you must go straight and not staggering.

    it’s impossible to lead us astray, we don’t care where to go.
  • aglet 13 May 2020 19: 03 New
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    Thanks to this revelry, our factory is still afloat and the production growth was somewhere around% 120 over 3 years.

    But what does your factory produce, can I find out? what growth rates are deafening, as if he is making gold from the air, no?
    1. zwlad 13 May 2020 20: 17 New
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      But what does your factory produce, can I find out? what growth rates are deafening, as if he is making gold from the air, no?

      Power semiconductor devices and converting equipment based on them. As it is now fashionable to say high-tech and partially non-analogous products in the world. The Russian analogue of the German Infineon and Siemens.
      Here is a report on the financial results for 4 years if interested https://zachestnyibiznes.ru/company/ul/1021301064950_1325013893_PAO-ELEKTROVYPRYaMITELY/balance
      In my opinion, I even slightly downplayed

      Another company of ours
      https://zachestnyibiznes.ru/company/ul/1021301062760_1327153649_OOO-SARANSKKABELY-OPTIKA/balance
  • Dr. Hub 14 May 2020 05: 00 New
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    Parties in Russia have become decorative (aware of the appearance of democracy and multi-party system). In fact, one party remained. Democracy, as such, ceased to exist. Democracy requires at least two equal parties in order to have a system of checks and balances. In our case, we have no choice but to go where one leader and one party lead. How to name what in our country I don’t already know. Totalitarianism? Stagnation? Maybe something else, but certainly not democracy - the power of the people
  • fif21 14 May 2020 07: 23 New
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    We can’t live without a government and a day, or without parties. Is that so? The ruling party has done so much “good” for the people, adopted so many “good” laws that I want to take everything away and divide again. hi
  • Andrey Prusakov 14 May 2020 09: 59 New
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    I don’t know if there is a party in Russia that is more hated and despised by the population than EP. It is interesting that she herself has long been parallel to the opinion of the population, for her there is only one opinion - the opinion of the president.
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      All markers are different in taste and color. For example, I hate and despise the Communist Party more strongly. Some of the LDPR also applies. And by and large, they are all former commies and Komsomol members who just got out of hand and their children
  • Puhly67 14 May 2020 23: 44 New
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    .. PANDEMIA !!!! .. and we sell disposable masks for 50 rubles each. it is the same. what to sell tickets at a bomb shelter. during the war............
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    And who needs them besides themselves, we have what Europe the USA will say and China is good for us, and the rest is from the evil one.
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    The author has lost sight of the most important thing. The CEC website publishes financial reports of all parties. I will not give everything, and I’m too lazy to climb into the reports for the last year. I give the official data for 2018 on the sources of funds of parliamentary parties.
    EP: membership fees-225 million; federal budget-4bn.336mln; donations - 2 billion. 550 million rubles.
    Communist Party: membership fees-957 million rubles federal budget-2bn. 383 mln .: donations-148,7 mln.
    LDPR; membership fees-88 thousand! The federal budget is 1 billion 727 million; donations are 4,9 million rubles.
    If we take into account the frantic salaries of deputies and the fact that half goes on the lists (donations?), Then the question of “political” parties in our country should be removed from the agenda in order to deal with their problems of sharing and redistributing taxpayer money.