The deadlines for state testing of the Mi-28NM helicopter became known

State tests of the latest Russian Mi-28NM Night Super Hunter helicopter will be completed before the end of this year, after which a decision will be made on putting the machine into service. This was reported by "Izvestia" with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex.

According to the source, by the end of 2020, the Mi-28NM helicopter will undergo final testing in the framework of joint state tests. According to the agreement, testing at a special training ground will take 110 flight days, during which all means of destruction of the helicopter must be checked, all flight performance specifications confirmed. Based on the results of state tests, a decision will be made on putting the helicopter into service, or on its completion and passing additional tests. Previously, the helicopter was tested in Syria.

Note that the contract for the supply of helicopters was signed in 2019 at the Army forum. In total, the Ministry of Defense will purchase 98 upgraded Mi-28NM helicopters until 2027, although initially it was a question of purchasing eight or sixteen Mi-28NM helicopters.

The Mi-28HM is a new generation high-performance all-weather attack helicopter designed to perform a wide range of tasks. The machine was created taking into account the combat experience of the use of a helicopter in Syria. The onboard radar equipment Mi-28HM includes an innovative helmet-mounted target designation and indication system. The machine is equipped with a new radar H025, allowing to conduct a circular review, as well as a new system of electronic warfare. Mi-28HM equipped with a second set of controls, which significantly increases the survivability of the machine.

The helicopter’s armament is largely unified with the Kamov Ka-52M and it will include long-range Hermes-A missiles, anti-tank missiles, as well as the “Product 305” - aviation cruise missile with a range of up to 100 km.

The Mi-28NM is equipped with a Russian-made VK-2500P engine and new rotor blades, which increases the helicopter's cruising speed by 10–13%.

In the future, it is planned to modernize the entire existing fleet of Mi-28N helicopters to the level of Mi-28NM.

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[Sky strike fighter]

The armament of the helicopter is largely unified with the Kamov Ka-52M aircraft and will include Hermes-A long-range missiles, anti-tank missiles, as well as Product 305, an aircraft cruise missile with a range of up to 100 km.

Is product 305 the same LMUR? Who is in the know?

The aerospace forces of the Russian Federation received two of the latest Mi-28NM Night Hunter helicopters. This was announced by the CEO of Russian Helicopters Andrei Boginsky.

“Two cars have already been handed over to the Ministry of Defense today. They will be connected to the state joint tests, ”he said on the TV channel Zvezda.

According to him, six more cars will be handed over to the military department in 2020.

Also, some new details of the helicopter's equipment became known, in particular regarding its armament - a light multi-purpose guided missile (LMUR). According to the general designer of JSC “Moscow Helicopter Plant named after M.L. Mile ”by Vitaliy Shcherbina, we are talking about the first in Russia multifunctional air-to-air / air-to-surface helicopter missile with a homing head.
As Shcherbina said on the air of the TV channel, this missile is capable of hitting both ground targets, including military equipment, and underwater and surface targets. Another feature of it is the ability to operate from great distances, which allows the crew to destroy targets while outside the range of any military air defense.

In addition, the Mi-28NM helicopter is equipped with the Chrysanthemum-M guided missile, which today is the most powerful anti-tank weapon of this type in Russia. It is noted that the missile is capable of detecting an enemy tank in conditions of complete lack of visibility and can penetrate armor up to 1,2 m thick.

https://russian.rt.com/russia/article/643753-mi-28nm-vks-rossiya

[Zaurbek]

Is that how the British Bramstone did? From a V-V universal rocket with an infrared seeker?

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Zaurbek

Is that how the British Bramstone did? From a V-V universal rocket with an infrared seeker?

Most likely an analogue of the French sea venom (Sea Venom), the tests of which are completed. The maximum range in the final test from a helicopter reached, if I am not mistaken, 50 km. A bit like the X-38, but easier. Click the link below for the video.

Sea Venom (Eng. - "sea poison") is a subsonic anti-ship rocket "hundred kilogram class", designed for launching from helicopters. Due to the presence of a warhead with an infrared guidance system, it can be used to destroy various types of surface and ground targets.

Development of the rocket was launched in the 2014 year in the interests of the French and British Navy. The new rocket will have to replace two types of anti-ship missiles at once - the British Sea Skua and the French AS15TT.

The Sea Venom missile is 2,5 m long, 200 mm in diameter, 110 kg in mass and “high subsonic speed” of flight. The stated maximum target destruction range is 20 km. The launch engine after separation from the carrier includes an uncooled thermal imaging Safran GOS with advanced image processing (with the possibility of integrating an additional channel for semi-active laser homing), a two-way communication channel for engaging the operator in the control loop, and an 30 armored-fragmentation warhead kg-in. While the rocket can fly completely autonomously in several modes, including flying at extremely low altitude above the sea, the operator’s control will allow such modes as redirection during the flight, correction / adjustment of the pickup point and safe termination of the mission.

https://topwar.ru/142463-franciya-provela-ispytaniya-novoy-protivokorabelnoy-rakety-sea-venom.html

[Cympak]

Brimstone is the British equivalent of the American AGM-179 Joint Air-to-Ground Missile (JAGM), developed by MBDA based on the AGM-114 Hellfire. In fact, the engine and warhead are from AGM-114 there, but the GOS is new there: initially the ARS of the millimeter range, and subsequently dual-mode - ARGS and passive LGSN + INS

[Zaurbek]

And what will the Mi 28 pick up with such a missile?

[Sky strike fighter]

LMUR missile is capable of hitting both ground targets, including military equipment, and underwater and surface targets.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Cympak

Brimstone is the British equivalent of the American AGM-179 Joint Air-to-Ground Missile (JAGM), developed by MBDA based on the AGM-114 Hellfire. In fact, the engine and warhead are from AGM-114 there, but the GOS is new there: initially the ARS of the millimeter range, and subsequently dual-mode - ARGS and passive LGSN + INS

Yo-mine! Well, you have to be able to (!) ... squeeze the contents of the "chest" into a small box!

[Insurgent]

Mi-28NM is equipped with a Russian-made VK-2500P engine

This is gratifying . It is good that in a short time we overcame dependence on a non-fraternal manufacturer.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Cympak

Brimstone is the British equivalent of the American AGM-179 Joint Air-to-Ground Missile (JAGM), developed by MBDA based on the AGM-114 Hellfire. In fact, the engine and warhead are from AGM-114 there, but the GOS is new there: initially the ARS of the millimeter range, and subsequently dual-mode - ARGS and passive LGSN + INS

Hmmm ... this requires translation! Brimstone was created earlier by JAGM based on Hellfire ...! During the development of JAGM, the Americans used a combined seeker (laser + radar) from Brimstone in the "1st stage" rocket! And in the "2nd stage" rocket, they installed a 3-band seeker (laser + infrared + radar) of our own design ... Yes, of course, do not forget about the INS!

[bayard]

It seems that this missile is based on a missile defense system from Pantsir-M, two-stage, supersonic. They wrote about her in 2015, even with pictures. And it will most likely be suspended in a container.

[tanki tanks]

Thank you for the article. We are already waiting for new helicopters. I wish them success in state research.

[Doccor18]

A modern air-to-air R-74M aircraft with an infrared guidance head will be installed on the machine. They significantly exceed the effectiveness of conventional portable anti-aircraft missile systems, which are now suspended on military aviation equipment for self-defense. Such weapons will make it possible to fight not only with helicopters and drones of the enemy, but also with combat aircraft. In addition to the new armament, the Mi-28NM will receive an N -025 sub-bus radar station, which allows the helicopter to detect targets outside of visual visibility.
Helicopter can be steered from any of the two seats. This will allow the use of conventional machines for training and training pilots. The base Mi-28N did not have such an opportunity, which forced it to develop a separate training version of the Mi-28UB for him.
Serious car, now in the army.

[Sky strike fighter]

Serious car, now in the army.

Mi-28NM also has a serious competitor in the person of Ka-52M.

The Russian Defense Ministry plans to place an order for the production of 114 newest Ka-52M attack helicopters at the Arsenyevsky Progress aircraft plant, Vesti: Primorye reports with reference to Izvestia.

The Ka-52M is a fully redesigned version of the reconnaissance and strike Ka-52. The car was equipped with new weapons, sighting system and composite armor. Among the experts, the Ka-52M has already received the nickname Super Alligator. State tests of the latest Ka-52M attack helicopter will be completed at the end of 2022.

At the request of the military, the Super Alligator strengthened the reservation. The airborne defense complex protecting the vehicle from anti-aircraft missiles will also be updated. In its arsenal, the Ka-52M will receive Hermes-A long-range ammunition capable of hitting targets at a distance of 15–20 km. As well as guided anti-tank Vikhr-M with a range of up to 8 km - they have already been used in Syria.

For the effective use of new missiles, a multi-channel aiming system GOES-451 will undergo deep modernization.

https://vestiprim.ru/news/ptrnews/91200-v-primore-planirujut-vypuskat-superalligatory.html

[Doccor18]

KA-52, nevertheless, better shows its advantages over the water surface. Put it on the UDC - he will not be priced there.

[Sky strike fighter]

Ka-52M can equally effectively be applied both over the sea and over the earth. That is, the car is more versatile.

[Doccor18]

Yes, both helicopters are serious rivals. Both have a difficult story. Each has relative pros and cons.
The Mi-28NM had previously signed a contract, so there will be efforts so far to make it. KA-52M will also go into series, but a little later.
"Recently, all helicopters have been trying to adapt for use at night, with the Mi-28NM it is easier and faster to do this," said the former deputy head of the State Flight Test Center, Honored Test Pilot Colonel Igor Malikov.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Doccor18

KA-52, nevertheless, better shows its advantages over the water surface.

The point here is not so much over what surface, although this also matters, but that the Ka-52 is more suitable for ship-based, as it is more compact.

[Doccor18]

The coaxial helicopter also has a higher carrying capacity on the external sling and inside the cockpit, better controllability of the helicopter, maneuverability and better altitude characteristics, because all the power goes to the main propellers. This helicopter is more symmetrical, so there is no additional roll in flight.

[Nikolaevich I]

Gospidya! "Shoot and not live ..."! Something today on page VO infa falls out in a bunch! And go and figure it out: why "Vikhr-M" with a range of up to 8 km, when the 9M127 complex "Vikhr" has a range of up to 10 km, and 9M227 - up to 12-14 km ...?! And "Hermes" is a "family" of missiles ... Yes, "Hermes-A" ("Peck"), has a range of up to 15-20 km; but where did the "product 305" with a range of up to 100 km come from, when the Hermes weapons system also includes missiles with a range of up to 100 km ?! Why plant a "gulbarium" when the unification of missiles will save both on the production of weapons and on operation ...!

[Cympak]

"Product 305" or LMUR cannot have a launch range of 100 km for the following indirect reasons: size and solid-fuel engine, problems with target designation at such a distance.
The "Hermes-A" - according to the KBP - is a very sophisticated control system on the marching sector and it is not clear what kind of homing system is. It is reliably known only about the availability of LGSN for Hermes. But who will highlight the LGSN target at a distance of 100 km?

[Nikolaevich I]

But where did the reports about a rocket for arming helicopters with a range of up to 100 km come from then? And they were (!) ... like that gopher! As for the GOS for "Hermes", there were reports that instead of 2 GOS (L. GOS and IK.GOS), one (L. + IK) GOS would be developed and put into service! As for the "sophistication" of the guidance system ... then there is nothing "hammered" in it! A very common type nowadays, a combined guidance system!

[Cympak]

Here is information from the site of JSC "KBP named after academician A.G. Shipunov" - the developer of "Hermes"
Rocket

Multipurpose SD with inertial or radio command guidance system at the exit site to the target area and homing at the final site.
The maximum firing range day and night ............. 15-20 km

Complex control equipment

Optoelectronic system (OES), including television and thermal imaging channels of technical vision, two channels of laser target designation, electronic units (including a two-channel target tracking automaton), a video viewing device and a manipulator, provides detection and recognition of targets in day and night conditions, automatic tracking and laser illumination targets.

A computing system, a multifunctional control panel, automation units and an information exchange backbone realize missile launch and interaction of the complex’s components, as well as its interfacing with the on-board electronic equipment of the carrier.

They also write in different sources (apparently, they rewrite each other), incl. on the "Star"

The mass of the warhead is 30 kg, the type is “high-explosive fragmentation”, and the explosive is 12 ... 13 kg.
The missile carries a universal high-explosive high-explosive fragmentation warhead, ”says the developer. Diving trajectories in the final section for hitting the upper, least protected projection of a target of the type “tank” or “fortified point”.

An important feature of the rocket is the maximum firing range increased to 15 km, which seriously distinguishes it for the better from the “Attacks” (6 km) and “Whirlwind” (8 km) widely used in Syria. And this is while maintaining a high supersonic flight speed (acceleration to 1000 m / s).
The increased firing range of the new KBP development missile corresponds to the capabilities of modern radars that are installed on helicopters presented at MAKS-2017. In particular, the Ka-52 (in the bow - "Crossbow") and Mi-28NE (above the sleeve is the antenna radar N025). It is believed that such sensors are able to detect a moving target of the "tank" type at a distance of about 20-25 km.

And further about the method of application

the helicopter’s convoy with the Hermes-A complex and radar can launch missiles at a great distance from the target so that the enemy could not detect an attack in advance in advance. This promises the suddenness of the fire and its high efficiency. Actually, to achieve this, the developers went for the use of a two-stage circuit extremely rare for ATGMs and installed an inertial system on it along with homing.

When the distance to the object of attack is reduced to a couple of kilometers, the rocket drops the head fairing, which serves to improve aerodynamics and protects homing equipment from the starting and marching sections of the flight from damage. The homing head is turned on, which scans the space to find the "light spot".

In order for a missile to hit a tank or other enemy object, it is necessary to “illuminate” it with a laser beam from an external target designation system. How to do this is a matter of tactics: the illumination can be driven by either the helicopter that launched it or another aircraft. In addition, you can use the ground operator with the appropriate equipment, and other options.

The above scheme was implemented on a Hermes-A missile presented at MAKS-2017. In the future, it can be modified to use the global navigation system. Although the use of satellite signals does not allow (at least for now) to hit moving targets, the accuracy of determining coordinates using GPS / Glonass (using L3, L5 and the technology of “augmentation”) is more than enough to direct guided ammunition to any stationary objects.

In other words, Hermes-A has a semi-active LGSN and related problems with target illumination. Given that modern armored vehicles are equipped with laser radiation sensors, no one will allow themselves to be illuminated with impunity: at best, they will put up a multispectral curtain and disrupt guidance, in the worst case, open fire towards the source of the laser signal.

[Nikolaevich I]

And what did you want to convince me of? The Hermes project is so many years old that it managed to overgrow, like a stump in a forest, with moss, with all kinds of rumors! And where there is truth, half-truth, fiction, now you can figure it out! There has been no specific (real) information for a long time ... so the "lovers of fresh food" have to conjecture already known "rumors"!

[bayard]

Quote: Cympak

But who will highlight the LGSN target at a distance of 100 km?

Intelligence or drone.

[Charik]

special forces with a laser tsu?

[Charik]

helmet-mounted target designation and indication system is it like in airplanes? and if armament allows you can shoot at a large angle?

[Cympak]

The helicopter patch can be made cooler than on a fighter, because no big overloads. A heavy helmet can damage the neck of a fighter pilot during heavy overloads and during bailouts

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Charik

helmet-mounted target designation and indication system is it like in airplanes? and if armament allows you can shoot at a large angle?

Yes.Details from the link below.

Pilots of the upgraded Mi-28NM (“Night Super Hunter”) will receive helmet-mounted target designation and indication systems (NSCI-V) using the principle of augmented reality, Izvestia reports citing the general director of State Ryazan Instrument-Making Plant JSC (GRPZ, part of KRET) Paul Budagova.

https://topwar.ru/100351-piloty-modernizirovannyh-mi-28nm-poluchat-sistemy-dopolnennoy-realnosti.html

[Nehist]

All the same, they frankly did not sell a successful car. Bring so many years to mind .... I hope to have led

[burigaz2010]

[/ quote] [quote = Nehist] All the same, they frankly did not sell a successful car. Bring so many years to mind .... I hope to have led

Colleague good evening. Alas, the Milevsky lobby was pushed by its falling hunter. They wonder how many pilots recorded in 200?

[Cympak]

"Product-305" firing at 100 km is the same as the AFAR from the Su-57 on the "Armata" ..... and it is definitely not a "cruise missile"

[Sky strike fighter]

What do you think? A light multi-functional guided missile?

[Cympak]

She is the most - LMUR

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Cympak

She is the most - LMUR

You already decide: "Product 305" or LMUR! LMUR-light multipurpose air-to-air and air-to-surface missile? Frets ...: 1. "Light" ... Calling a missile with a range of up to 100 km light ... isn't it too "defiant"? 2. "Multipurpose" ... well, "air-to-surface" up to 100 km is still fine! But "air-to-air" up to 100 km for helicopters !? This is "vasheeee"!
By the way, most of the sources for LMUR (LeMUR-PM) give the following data: 15-18 km or up to 25 km (20-25 ...) But "Hermes", perhaps, can catch up with 100 km! True, according to old data, "Hermes-A" ("Peck") is designed for 15-18 (15-20) km, but the ship and ground versions are capable of 100 km! It's up to the "small" ... to transfer the "ship" version to the helicopter!

[Cympak]

There will be "Product 305", which was called LMUR for a catchphrase in one program about military equipment for people with a humanitarian mindset. And, perhaps, there will be "Hermes" if they take it into service. "Hermes" and "Product 305" - different missiles, from different developers, outwardly different - "Hermes" in TPK, "Product 305" without TPK.
The range of 100 km was declared for the ground version of the Hermes, but due to the "vague" decision on the seeker, such a MO missile is not needed, since it is easier and cheaper to use Tornado-S with SPBE.

[Prokuror-m]

State tests of the newest Russian helicopter Mi-28NM "Night Super Hunter"

I am not a specialist, but it seems that we have the MI-28 "night hunter" in our arsenal .. Is it even cooler? Well, the Kulibins, their inspiration has begun ..

[Cympak]

After more than 30 years of development, they finally mastered the supra-muzzle radar. On the mock-ups she was still at the exhibition in Le Bourget in 1989, i.e. even under the USSR.
The presence of an overhead radar provides many opportunities for missiles with the function "fire and forget"

[Charik]

Could not scratch the Americans, they have long been? put on the AN-64.

[Cympak]

It is possible that the problem is in the elemental base, perhaps in financing the MO project. We still have the heads of IL-2 and NURSY

[5-9]

For missiles "fire and forget", first of all, you need a GOS (IK, ARLGSN), and only secondly - a radar station overhead or some other.
Again, the sad experience of the United States near Karbala buried the tactics of pi-piu missiles, so beloved by computer toys and theorists, from hovering modes and only radar protrusions.
This thing is of course a priori useful and necessary, but overgrown with mythical virtues

[Prokuror-m]

Quote: Cympak

After more than 30 years of development, they finally mastered the supra-muzzle radar. On the mock-ups she was still at the exhibition in Le Bourget in 1989, i.e. even under the USSR.
The presence of an overhead radar provides many opportunities for missiles with the function "fire and forget"

Understood a little Thank you ..And then this barking began and you won’t understand what was happening ....

[Pvi1206]

folk wisdom says: do not say gop until you have jumped ... let's hope so be it ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Our helicopters, as well as UAVs in the future, need new ATGM analogues of the American Helfers and need to do something with the gun to increase its accuracy. In my opinion, you need to make a special 30-mm gun for helicopters, less power than 2A42, but better accuracy and, as a result, higher efficiency. It is quite possible that such a gun will find application on some light land equipment.

[5-9]

What are the analogues of Hellfayer? In terms of slow or not outstanding armor penetration? Or is it just about one of its modifications with an active radar seeker? So she has a price ....
And, in general, they wrote about Hermes ... although he with his price will not supplant the Whirlwinds and Chrysanthemums ...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Yes, exactly, we need ATGM with GOS. And her price is no more than the goals that she will have to hit.

They wrote about Hermes, but something is not visible on our helicopters.

[Cympak]

What is needed is not just an ATGM with GOS, but a modern SD with:
- multi-mode GOS: LGSN + ARGS + IK-GSN, or a combination of ARGS + LGSN, IK-GSN + LGSN, to reduce the cost, you can make a rocket with modular, but easily replaceable single-mode seekers
- a communication channel between the rocket and the carrier, through which you can adjust the flight of the rocket, retarget it, conduct additional reconnaissance of the target
- a developed guidance system that allows shelling several targets in a salvo with automatic target distribution between attacking missiles in the final phase without operator intervention
- multi-mode warhead, with the ability to set the way to detonate
The USA, Israel, Great Britain, France have already developed similar missiles and began their production.
About the price - in most cases the target will cost more than the rocket, and for very cheap targets there are already other means of destruction.

[5-9]

Well, Hermes will be, for special situations and special purposes. Amer also has a laser Hel - a rocket for every day, and with arlgsn - for special holidays.