Belorussian Armed Forces MLRS “Polonaise” are capable of keeping NATO bases in Poland and the Baltic at gunpoint

The personnel of the Belarusian military parade of May 9, 2020 flew around many countries of the world. A special, so to speak, response to the military parade is caused in a number of NATO countries. Attention was drawn, in particular, to the Polonaise multiple launch rocket systems that had been in the arsenal of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus for about 4 years.

NATO countries are concerned about the increasingly evolving characteristics of the Belarusian strike systems, namely, the range of target destruction. The maximum range for hitting targets for Polonaise missiles is 300 km. When these systems are placed along the western borders of the Republic of Belarus, parts of those NATO groups located in Poland and the Baltic States fall into the affected area. Under the spot are several bases of the North Atlantic military bloc.

For example, from Brest to Warsaw about 250 km, from the border regions of the Grodno region to the Lithuanian Šiauliai airfield, where the British air units with "Typhoons" are located, in a straight line - about 290 km. About 300 km from the same border territories of the Grodno region to the port infrastructure of the Lithuanian Klaipeda, where NATO shipping is often unloaded. The notorious Suvalki corridor is completely “shot through”, “more and more forces and means are being allocated to NATO” for “defense”.

Thus, the Belarusian army, even alone, possessing such powerful and long-range weapons as the 301-mm B-200 Polonaise, is capable of holding back large NATO forces from southeastern Poland with its several military bases to the territories of the Baltic Republics with more and more of them the growing concentration of the NATO military contingent.

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[parkello]

the ardor clearly diminished. otherwise they still can’t digest Kaliningrad. and they won’t be able to.

[Insurgent]

Quote: parkello

Kaliningrad can not digest. And can not.

Even the Germans, with their age-old "phantom pain" in relation to the former East Prussia, are not as restless as the Poles, to whom Kaliningrad is an unbearable "hairpin" ...

[parkello]

the Germans had long forgotten about him .. they understand that they can’t see their ears in Kaliningrad. and the Poles have woken up, they didn’t have enough Belarusian and Ukrainian lands ... haven’t gotten drunk yet. I worked with them in Athens. with the Polish brigade. on the installation of iron structures. out of 10 Poles, 1 was normal. and even that is probably because he was too old, and in the USSR he often went to work in the Far North. they paid well there. that's just with him I talked after work. the rest ... as our Greeks say, take one and hit them the second .. very ambitious and daring ... well, there really is where it goes. where insolence does not channel as an argument, they prefer to drive on. one day they got drunk a lot, ran into shorter .. I did not stand on ceremony, I had an Albanian TT. I took it out and asked if anyone wants to check how I shoot, even when I'm drunk. they immediately remembered that we were allies, and so on ... what’s like? we are each other ... I’m not saying WE are each other. but I am now ... you’ve cleaned well in time. I would not want to take so much sin on my soul because of other people's rudeness. but they did not understand other words. fooling around. mol not in our say ... I like this type of understand. I’m happy to put the whole clip ... and you’ll quickly understand everything, not even on your own. two more Greeks, their kents climbed in, began to reassure, they say no, we are all at work ... to bury these freaks. hands itch. they were not given rest that I was from Georgia, but Greek citizenship. and I get like a Greek, for every extra hour of work .. you are jealous of such. I was lucky that I had a gun, which they did not know about. and so they would dig me ... and healthy ones you know, you’ll break a hell of it, just shoot

[Nehist]

Hmm, in the event of a conflict, Kaliningrad cannot be held back. Alas, the fleet cannot provide the supply. There is a real group of suicide bombers which at its cost will allow the IOB to unfold. Although given that we are going on, we are not able to deploy even a million army. There are not so many trained reserves. I understand that we are old bisons with their radiculitis and heart attacks suffered even more like those who can pick up weapons. But the current generation does not inspire me any hopes

[Thrall]

Thus, the army of Belarus, even alone, possessing such powerful and long-range weapons as the 301-mm B-200 Polonaise

At 300 km (almost) the B-300 "Polonaise M"

[Nikolaevich I]

When "just" the first reports appeared about the upcoming production in Belarus of the "Polonaise" MLRS with Chinese missiles, it was mentioned in one article that the system should be, in the end, bicaliber ... by the 301-mm "eres" it is planned add, later, 370-mm ammunition ... also "Chinese" caliber.

[knn54]

And the author is aware of the fact that the Ax (of which NATO has a lot) has a flight range five times longer?

[Lopatov]

Quote: knn54

And the author is aware of the fact that the Ax (of which NATO has a lot) has a flight range five times longer?

So what?

[Olgovich]

Quote: Nehist

Although given that we are going on, we are not able to deploy even a million army. There are not so many trained reserves.

Yeah. and they have it all.

Quote: Nehist

But the current generation does not inspire me any hopes

And THEIR blue hamster generation of iPhone-directly, after all, the special forces eryo!

do you even look WHO their generations working at a factory as a worker, a peasant-hands in the field, etc.? NOBODY. They, yes, will "fight"

[hagen]

Quote: Nehist

I understand that we are old bisons with their radiculitis and heart attacks suffered even more like those who can pick up weapons. But the current generation does not inspire me any hopes

You are growing "the current generation" and will say exactly what you do. The ancient Greeks covered their children with our words. Fathers and children are an old conflict. But the 6th company did not surrender, they will not surrender even today. I'm sure.

[alone]

Quote: Nehist

Hmm, in the event of a conflict, Kaliningrad cannot be restrained. Alas, the fleet cannot provide the supply.

What war? What retention? If there is a war, it will be nuclear ... After such a war, if someone survives, it will be possible to hold only sticks and stones

[Marconi41]

Quote: Nehist

Hmm, in the event of a conflict, Kaliningrad cannot be restrained. Alas, the fleet cannot provide the supply.

Come on. In the event of a conflict, the supply will be carried out by rail. True, the independence of some Baltic "tigers" will have to be sacrificed. So Kaliningrad will need to hold out no more than ten days.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

I agree with you .... I won’t be able to attack, but I still have the strength to cover the flanks ..... And years later, through .... only partisan .....

[seregatara1969]

Fuck you need karate, if there is TT! In the case of education, once in the knee to shoot fifty times better than educational conversation. This case is an example. The Greeks in the union were always full. But immediately bring up a whole group - they will come home and talk about the positive experience. I did it right.

[Cyril G ...]

The Germans would rather remember the German Danzig and Slesien and Silesia, the Poles would not be in the way of diapers ...

[Sergej1972]

At the moment, the Polish army is more combat-ready than the Bundeswehr.

[Bar1]

this nata is already tired. Belarus and Russia should share the Baltic states and reduce the threat to the Russian peace.

[seregatara1969]

Cho to share it? There is a receipt on the purchase of the entire Baltic states together with the people from Sweden by Russia for one annual budget of Sweden. Let them redeem themselves according to the Eurozone, Ordnung is Ordnung.

[Cyril G ...]

By the way, yes, let them pay and repent.

[Bar1]

Quote: seregatara1969

Let them redeem themselves according to the Eurozone, Ordnung is Ordnung.

money is garbage, the main thing is security, while the Baltic states will be, there will be no peace for us.

[aszzz888]

NATO countries are concerned about the increasingly evolving characteristics of the Belarusian strike systems, namely, the range of target destruction.

So let them continue to "worry" in here, and remember where the "Polonaise" rackets can fly.

[Sailor]

Here I consider it fraternally !!!

[svp67]

Well, that this "fiery product" of the Chinese-Belarusian cooperation is quite a "weighty argument" in any dispute ...

[novel66]

yes Old Man somehow behaves ... maybe they will not be needed

[The leader of the Redskins]

Most likely they will not be needed. This author took the TTX and dreamed that Belarus would declare war on NATO. A strange assumption ...

[novel66]

no, well, you can dream

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: svp67

quite a "weighty argument" in any dispute.

And the priority goal with the negative development of this dispute. Especially when they are concentrated in the border areas (if used for situations and purposes described in the note. Again, their number is small. And the system with the transition class shells from the MLRS to the OTRK (for exact characteristics) is excellent

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: svp67

Well, that this "fiery product" of the Chinese-Belarusian cooperation is quite a "weighty argument" in any dispute ...

Belarusians actually localized the production of Chinese MLRS. Here and all the cooperation.

According to known data, the MLRS "Polonez" uses long-range high-precision 301-mm missiles of the A200 type developed and manufactured by the Chinese China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology (CALT, also known as the "First Academy"), which is part of the Chinese state aerospace corporation China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC). In the global market, the A200 system is marketed by the Aerospace Long-March International Trade Co., Ltd (ALIT), a member of CASC, as well as by the well-known Chinese corporation Poly Technologies. The joint development of the Polonez MLRS based on the A200 missiles was carried out in accordance with the Chinese-Belarusian intergovernmental agreement concluded in 2013.

Belarus, apparently, became the starting customer of the A200 missile system. The A200 rocket with a caliber of 301 mm has a length of 7264 mm and a stabilizer span of 615 mm. Rocket weight 750 kg. Warhead (three different types) detachable, combined guidance system - inertial with satellite correction (GPS). The firing range is from 50 to "more than 200" km. The CEP of the warhead at the maximum range is stated in different sources from 30 to 50 m. A salvo of eight missiles at eight different targets can be fired in 50 seconds, the preparation time for a salvo is 8 minutes.
State tests of the "Polonez" MLRS were completed in Belarus on May 30, 2016.

In May 2017, the 8th International Exhibition of Arms and Military Equipment MILEX-2017 for the first time demonstrated an operational-tactical ballistic missile with an official range of up to 300 km, which should be introduced into the modified Polonaise system, which passed fire tests on October 26 .

Judging by the mock-up model presented at MILEX-2017 with a characteristic appearance, this operational-tactical missile is an M20 missile developed and produced by the same Chinese CALT. The M20 missile system has been advertised by CALT since 2011, with a declared maximum range of up to 280 km and a warhead weight of 480 kg. The M20 guidance system is combined - inertial with satellite correction (GPS), the CEP of the missile at the maximum range is declared at 30 m. The missile flies along a "quasi-ballistic" trajectory.

Another "missile with a range of 300 km" could also be the A300 missile developed by CALT.

Since 2014, CALT has been advertising a single universal missile system GATSS (General Army Tactical Strike System), which uses A100, A200, A300 and M20 missiles from a single launcher, as well as CX-1 supersonic anti-ship missiles (the latter look like a clone of the Russian Onyx missile "/" Yakhont "). In fact, the modified Polonez is apparently the GATTS complex.

https://imp-navigator.livejournal.com/671627.html

[svp67]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Belarusians actually localized the production of Chinese MLRS

And the "base chassis" was also localized?

[donavi49]

Yeah, the Chinese - their chassis based on Wanshan tractors, was created in close partnership with the MZKT.

[Nehist]

It is quite logical. What for inventing no analogue. When can you safely combine a good Chinese missile with a good Belarusian chassis? !!

[Incvizitor]

What for something to invent, it is better to be an agricultural laughing power cattle graze and plant radishes.

[Topol M]

Stump! You probably haven’t heard about the MZKT, the Strategic Missile Forces on Minsk tractors, you yourself drummed on Pioneer and Topol from 79 to 89. A missile is a missile, you won’t shoot it from a water pipe, the launch system is Belarusian. And the transfusion systems on modern tanks of the Russian Federation, do you happen to know who delivers?

[hagen]

The maximum range for hitting targets for Polonaise missiles is 300 km.

It is not clear where the catch is in this characteristic. Polonaise uses (according to open sources) the Chinese A-200 rocket. In its mass and overall parameters, it is close to 9M542. But more than 2 times superior in range. What is true here, what is the reason for such a run of characteristics? Other fuels, other rocket speeds or something else? In any case, at first glance there is reason for a wary perception of such news. Maybe one of the rocket specialists will shed light on the question. Are we behind China? Or how?

[donavi49]

Well, everything seems to be open there. The launch stage throws the rocket at 35-45km, and then it goes on the march quasi-ballistic with corrections and maneuvers.


In general, the system is quite in demand, and the Chinese are not bad at trying to enter the markets through Belarusians. Aliyev has already bought.

There, among the M20 offers, there is the Chinese version of the Iskander 480kg by 280km in the export offer, Belarusians are already friends of the rocket with the chassis.

chinese version

[Lopatov]

Quote: donavi49

Belarusians are already friends with the rocket chassis.

There seems to be nothing to "make friends" is not necessary.
As far as I read, you need to pair the rocket with the control system.

[alone]

Quote: donavi49

In general, the system is quite in demand, and the Chinese are not bad at trying to enter the markets through Belarusians. Aliyev has already bought.

Yes, they bought ... moreover, with the option M20 ..

[Zaurbek]

But in Russia it’s impossible to create a similar system

[Lopatov]

Quote: Zaurbek

But in Russia it’s impossible to create a similar system

They did not create it.
We decided that Iskander was enough.

[Zaurbek]

This system is more similar to Point (its competitor) but with 8pcs of ammunition. You can also half on Kamaz 8x8. To do. Budget and efficient.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Zaurbek

This system is more similar to Point (its competitor) but with 8pcs of ammunition.

I read that there KVO under 600 meters.
It seems that this is still the MLRS.

Tochka was abandoned again for the sake of "cost optimization" Like Hurricanes. And it looks like they finally gave up

[Hermann]

Do you mean the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus abandoned the Points and the Uranans?

[Lopatov]

The RF Armed Forces under Medvedev-Serdyukov abandoned the "Tochka" and "Hurricane".
"Splav" on its own initiative continued work on the 220-mm RS
Unfortunately, Kolomna could not continue the work on the Tochka or did not want to.

[Hermann]

Well, Uranan remained in the arsenal of the RF Armed Forces, it is being changed to Hurricane-1M and the point is being changed by Iskander. Tell me, do you think you need a floating dispenser of a division link (a modern analogue of the Point)?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Herman

Well, Uranan remained in the arsenal of the RF Armed Forces, it is being replaced with Hurricane-1M

Where do they "change"? I'm afraid you are ahead of the curve.
But the opportunity still exists. Because the management of "Alloy" scored on the Wise and the Far-sighted

Quote: Herman

Tell me, do you think you need a floating dispenser of a division link (a modern analogue of the Point)?

Floating? Not necessary. In modern conditions, air transport and air mobility, I think, is more important
We need a divisional-level fuel dispenser, perhaps even less powerful than the "Tochka". A half-ton warhead, perhaps somewhat redundant with modern guidance systems

[Zaurbek]

It is an analogue, but only in range ..... with 8 missiles. Efficiency is greater. And the Chinese have one machine with Iskander missiles and these ...

[Incvizitor]

A tornado can not perform such tasks?

[Lopatov]

"Smerch" / "Tornado-S" is a MLRS. And they have to fulfill their tasks.
Their firing units are already so small, it is impractical to distract the launchers from using them as fuel dispensers.

Yes, and very few of them are very, very ..

[Nehist]

Hurricane ... Sorry by the way! I really liked the telegraph poles. And after all, the enemy’s positions were beautiful.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Nehist

Hurricane ... Sorry by the way!

With "Hurricane", it seems, they decided to "roll back"

[Nehist]

Well, if so, then glad

[Lopatov]

While "a pitchfork on the water."
On the one hand, the installation is already in the Mikhailovsky Academy (the only high school that trains artillerymen.
On the other hand, apparently, they continue to save money by sawing Tornadoes into Tornado-S

[Sky strike fighter]

MLRS Uragan-1M in service since 2016.Distance 120 km.
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD-1%D0%9C

[Sky strike fighter]

Hurricane-1M enters the army since 2016.

The new Uragan-1M multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) has begun to enter service with the Russian army - the Russian Defense Ministry and the manufacturer of the complex are currently discussing the prospects for increasing its deliveries, Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov told reporters on Friday.

https://www.arms-expo.ru/news/novye-razrabotki/novaya-rszo-uragan-1m-nachala-postupat-na-vooruzhenie-rossiyskoy-armii/

[venik]

Quote: Spade

I read that there KVO under 600 meters.
It seems that this is still the MLRS.

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600 meters is for the Chinese WS-2 / WS-2D with a 400 km firing range. According to Belarusian data, for the Polonaise systems with missiles of the 1st modification (up to 200 km), the CEP when firing at the maximum range using a combined guidance system (INS + satellite correction), the CEP was brought to 30-50 m. - alas! (not to me)....

[Lopatov]

Quote: venik

KVO managed to bring up to 30-50 m.

This is still a lot for the fuel dispenser.
For MLRS, it’s quite normal, even excellent

[venik]

Quote: Spade

This is still a lot for the fuel dispenser.
For MLRS, it’s quite normal, even excellent

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Am I arguing? In 9M723-1 with correlation IR GOS, it’s 5-7 meters in general!
By the way, the Tochka was abandoned for this very reason - it was hopelessly inferior to Iskander in all respects (range, speed, KVO, etc.), besides, the entire 9M79 family of missiles could not maneuver along the trajectory.
But the information that the "Hurricane" was abandoned - how reliable is it? This is news to me, so news ...
Why then is the "manifig" asked to invent the bicaliber "Hurricane-M" ???

[Zaurbek]

If you take the original Chinese system as a sample. then we will see two types of equipment:
1. 2pcs rockets in individual transport launch containers. I do not know the caliber, but the range is under 700 km.
2. 8pcs 301mm rockets in the same containers with a range of under 300km

[Zaurbek]

No, it's a rocket corr ...

[Tuzik]

Polonaise is capable of holding back NATO’s major forces from southeastern Poland with its several military bases to the territories of the Baltic republics with their ever-growing concentration of NATO military contingent

only if you equip special warhead

[Zaurbek]

Accuracy will make it possible with a conventional warhead.

[Emphasis]

Based on recent political events, it is highly doubtful that Belarus would be going to restrain anyone. Another manipulation of the authors. I remember how there was an article here that Hungary was preparing to attack Ukraine with leopard tanks.
Those and the whole question on the article. What kind of containment are we talking about? Can the armies of the listed NATO countries be restrained by the MLRS alone and even in such numbers ???
This is something like: I have a gun and I can restrain the army of any country !!! Well, at least I can shoot at them and they are afraid of that !!! And what they will do with me for this later is a completely different matter.
But in general, I can’t recall that Lukashenko would threaten to restrain someone? He seems to be establishing economic cooperation

[Lopatov]

Quote: Accent

Based on recent political events, it is highly doubtful that Belarus would be going to restrain anyone.

Come on....
Lukashenko sleeps and sees himself as the second Gaddafi?

[Emphasis]

On the one hand, yes. So on the other hand, they do not promise him any special prospects. In a union state, he personally doesn’t shine anything good. Therefore maneuvers

[Zaurbek]

It is quite possible that a "Long Arm" is needed ... and what else can Belarus threaten its enemies with? Aviation is very expensive.

[Sergei 777]

Polonaise is a very cool thing. Confuse only the Chinese roots in rockets. And so ... The range is excellent. Accuracy according to official information is acceptable. And the amount is serious.

[Yaro Polk]

But father will soon be asked to disarm because of the West’s loyalty to him, and the removal of all sanctions — which he will do with a smile.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Yaro Polk

But father will soon be asked to disarm because of the West’s loyalty to him, and the removal of all sanctions — which he will do with a smile.

How Gaddafi disarmed?
Lukashenka does not appear so stupid as to repeat the "Libyan experience of democracy"

[Cyril G ...]

Alas, he has been actively lying under the United States recently and carefully cultivating zmagors, because the states promised him that the Zmagars are against Russia, of course they will lie, in my opinion this is the worst thing he could do ...

[rotmistr60]

the army of Belarus even by oneself...

Well, if "even" then of course. And if you include logical thinking? In what case will the army of Belarus be forced to strike? Only in the event of an attack on her. And it can be hit only if NATO starts a war with Russia. So it turns out that no "alone" simply does not exist. And the article is most likely from the Belarusian media.

[Pavel57]

Does China supply fuel for Polonaise?

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Pavel57

Does China supply fuel for Polonaise?

Yes, there was a recent assertion by the "syabrs" that the production of rocket engines for the "polonezes" was 100% established in Belarus ...

[prior]

MLRS "Polonaise".
The name is music for the ears.

[strannik1985]

Hug and cry. Military Balance for 2019 indicates the presence of 4 (four!) BM "Polonez". In the NE of Azerbaijan, even more (6 ~ 10 BM).

[Viktor Sergeev]

Are you laughing What can keep the SZO? One hit and none. Russia is holding them back.

[Incvizitor]

In addition to the RSZO, good air defense is needed in order to cover airborne complexes, and 300 is certainly serious.

[Incvizitor]

In addition to the RSZO, good air defense is needed in order to cover airborne complexes, and 300 is certainly serious.

[COLORADO73]

Turn on and remember Scorpions Wind of Change and Still loving you!

[Observer2014]

Will they be pulled right to the border to strike? Well, so that everything that is painted over in red on the maps is under attack?