The first collimator sight for heavy machine guns created in Russia

The specialists of the holding "Roselectronika" created the first collimator sight of domestic production, which will be equipped with heavy machine guns. This device provides an accurate hit when firing from a moving object. It can be, for example, a helicopter, boat or ground equipment.

This was reported by the press service of the Rostec Corporation, which includes the holding.

The sight is highly resistant to shock loads and recoil. With it, a soldier firing a machine gun can aim faster and hit a target accurately. When using a collimator sight, a luminous mark appears in his field of vision, which allows him to lead the target both in bright sunlight and at dusk. In this case, the aiming angle and the distance to the eyepiece do not matter.

The exit window of the collimator sight is large, which is why the viewing width is about 20 degrees. This allows you to effectively use it in motion and when shooting at moving objects.

The new sight will be installed on Kord machine guns of 12,7 mm caliber, as well as other Russian-made heavy machine guns.

And although collimator sights are usually used to destroy targets at short distances, the new development allows you to hit objects at a distance of more than one kilometer.

Comments

[Thrifty]

For ships it is possible, as well as for light armored vehicles, it will do, but for aviation it is superfluous. Or, even useless.

[loki565]

It’s even necessary for transport workers to cover the landing party at the landing, or work it out using unarmored vehicles.

[Ural Cossack]

In the frame, 7,62x54 looks more like a Garyunov machine gun

[loki565]

If CORD would be more fun))) And this is most likely an American machine gun, with switching the rate of fire.

[APASUS]

Quote: Ural Cossack

In the frame, 7,62x54 looks more like a Garyunov machine gun

M-240

[APASUS]

Quote: loki565

It’s even necessary for transport workers to cover the landing party at the landing, or work it out using unarmored vehicles.

I had a similar experience, it’s really hard to get there

[Starover_Z]

Quote: APASUS

I had a similar experience, it’s really hard to get there

I’m not a shooter, I shot like 3, 10 rounds, no more, like everything in Soviet times, but here it looks like a machine gunner, despite the distance and the movement did not take the lead. And so shoot at a moving target?

[APASUS]

Quote: Starover_Z

Quote: APASUS

I had a similar experience, it’s really hard to get there

I’m not a shooter, I shot like 3, 10 rounds, no more, like everything in Soviet times, but here it looks like a machine gunner, despite the distance and the movement did not take the lead. And so shoot at a moving target?

There are a lot of factors in such shooting. I shot at a stationary target in the mountains. The helicopter constantly maneuvers and the time to hit the target is minimum.
In this case, it’s generally a plain, it’s not clear why they didn’t go from the sun or from the rear, if they were afraid of an answer? It’s only clear here that they are firing at the picket and it seems they’re afraid that this is a martyr’s car, they’re afraid of approaching and the blast wave defeat

[Ironcity]

As you can understand even from this video, a helicopter collimator is absolutely useless. Helicopter speeds and targets relative to each other are constantly changing in magnitude and direction. The shooter does not aim through the scope (any: mechanics, collimator, optics), but watches his hits and adjusts based on this.

[Civil]

Been on fighters since 1918

[DenZ]

The fighters of that time (1 world) had cannon sights and not collimator sights.

[noct]

what kind of aviation ... is for earth, not heaven ... for earth a matter of lives

[Alexga]

Wait like the first? And K-10T on the cliff ???

[venik]

Quote: AlexGa

Wait like the first? And K-10T on the cliff ???

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The author obviously did not take the USSR into account .....

[senima56]

Great news!

[Charik]

Yes, now in 2020 I would make a collimator.

[parkello]

news plus definitely. the more so because the window is wide enough that it doesn’t limit the area of ​​fire for the machine gunner. I like. there is only one question ... how will it be attached to the machine gun? you need to make such a bracket so that you can quickly remove it and put the optics on or leave the scope open. and then in the dark ... I remember foil wind up on the fly, so that in the dark to see it. and at night it’s better to shoot better with a mark on the fly. But you don’t see nichrome .. you think that you shoot high, and 10 meters away you drove the whole line into the ground. although of course to compare Kord and the shit that was not correct with us .. for me the M-2 Browning was on the M-113. and another sheaf of fire from the trunk blinds. in general, it’s better not to shoot with Browning at night .. or you’ll either catch your own or drive bullets into the ground. At best, fly into the air through the stars ... and Kord is handsome. and in circulation and so, one sight for sore eyes. you can put on the bipod. and M-2 where you put on the bipod? its tripod weighs more than the machine gun with ammunition. it will be necessary to lift into the mountains well, the old stuff is shorter ... and shakes him like in a fit Parkinson. well done, work, create. test ... God help you!

[Alexga]

there is only one question ... how will it be attached to the machine gun?

I understand that it will be mounted instead of the standard SPP. But the question is. I put the scope, verified, shot, ready for battle. And if he took it off, and then set it up, where is the guarantee that the sight will not be shot down. The mount does not make an impression, although without shooting it, it is difficult to make an exact opinion from the photo.

[parkello]

that's why I asked about the mount. we have ones that can be removed later. for example, I set the optics on the FN, it is adjusted there, shoots — it is verified for accuracy, but now the moment has come. using a conventional sights, klsioskopicheskogo, there this function provides. then the scope can be raised again and secured with a hairpin. that is, it is essentially on such a loop. like a door hinge, when you need to put upright optics, when not needed, you can very quickly remove it on the left side. the sight does not go away. how you lift it again in its place, you don’t need to shoot again .. I think it would be worthwhile to put such an arm here. when you need to lift it from the side and fix it right there. the pin is spring-loaded, you pull it back and put the scope in the desired position. This is not to remove and then not to shoot the gun again. but this is for a rifle. there is less return and less load. and then fifty kopecks ... there is a huge return and load. and because the sight is collimator, you need to understand that you won’t have to wait for jewelry accuracy from it, which means you can make it so that it is removed to the left when it is not needed. so as not to shoot completely and then not shoot again.

[Alexga]

this function involves pulling the pin and laying the scope on its side, allowing access to mechanical sights (conventional) and then the scope can be raised again and secured with a pin. that is, it is essentially on such a loop. like a door hinge, when you need to put upright optics, when not needed, you can very quickly remove it on the left side. the sight does not go away. how you lift it again in its place, you don’t need to shoot again

Very interesting and convenient design, such design solutions are respected. Question, Optics leans to the left, and sleeves are thrown to the right, or what?

[parkello]

Well, for an assault rifle it’s very convenient. in short, everything depends on the customer, if he knows what he wants, then he will receive it. and if you haven’t decided yet, it’s hard to please such a buyer (customer) and suddenly he will later say what’s expensive ... and all that, they say, and go with your sight .. where to hell and that’s all ... and we arrived. many times it was already, it seems they came up with and embodied in iron, but they don’t really need it. how many innovations because of this flowed over the hill.

[Alexga]

like they came up with and embodied in iron, but they don’t really need it

How familiar it all is! It seems that everyone has such diseases. . Thank you for the information, it was interesting.

[parkello]

yes. about the sleeves, everything is correct. they will be thrown out to the right. and we fold the optics to the left. and since most rifles have the bolt handle on the left, in front, it does not interfere with anything there. there is simply no need to remove it completely. just removed to the left and raised again when necessary. I mentioned the FN Faloo rifle, but this bracket is also installed on the G-3 a3. with a new cover and on AK it will also be possible to put one like this. I saw and fired from the M-1 sniper rifles. but she has an ejection window on top, and from there a new clip is charged and spits out an empty one. which, together with a telescopic sight, is a lot of hassle. otherwise the M-1 is a good rifle and a powerful cartridge. for hunting, I would take the M-1. and it is not suitable for fighting. the sound of the ejection of an empty can (clip) is heard far away and it becomes clear to the enemy that you do not have a cartridge in the barrel ... yes ... but otherwise, the accuracy is decent. Well, the rifle is designed for hunting "wild beasts." (bipedal) and if there is optics, it is difficult to quickly replace the clip. in general, the process of charging the M-1 requires effort and skill. otherwise the shutter can unpleasantly pinch your fingers. to complete disrepair. there you pull the bolt back, and with the other hand you insert the clip, and you need to slightly press on it so that the bolt closes. and all this poke-poke is very nerve-racking. The SCS is also charged from above, but with the SCS you can open the store from below. at Mosin, too, replacing the clip without optics is quite simple. But with optics, you already have to take it into account, tilt it and quietly put it in its place. and for M-1 it is necessary to press the clip (8 rounds) into the box clip (pack) and release the bolt so that it snaps into place. but you can pinch your fingers if you do not pull them out in time. and then when they fired, the shells often fell on my helmet, I was afraid that they would fly by the collar. unpleasantly the same .. red-hot sleeve for the collar. that's because of all this and came up with this garbage. these are now three carriages of sniper rifles and a trolley ... but in my time (in 1995) sniper rifles were M-1, Lee Enfield and C-98 Mauser or Carcano in the Italian version. and in the USSR there was already a SVD. an enviable weapon for those times. Okay .. I wrote a whole sheet again .... I apologize for the verbosity, but I can't speak briefly.

[Alexga]

wrote a whole sheet again .... I apologize for the verbosity, but I can not speak briefly. recourse

But interesting and intelligible!

[parkello]

thanks Alexander, you are the first who told me this, about it is interesting. I don’t see anything interesting in this. maybe aged. maybe just tired. I served in the Greek army, and I was exhausted there so that I wouldn’t want to hear anything about weapons after another 10 years after the army. now here ... I am writing from my memories. what if someone comes in handy in life? on health then, of course, and glad if anything helped. maybe the idea just threw. food for the mind. as some say (and I am among them) so. contact, if that is interesting. Of course, I don’t know much, but I can explain what I can. After all, they also explained and put up with me.

[Alexga]

You are the first who told me this, about interesting

The trouble with this resource is that military topics are discussed by people who are familiar with this topic only from information found on the Internet. And a rather rare case when a person appears who gives explanations based on personal experience. Therefore, it is very good that you write a lot and in sufficient detail. Honestly, I thought that people I knew were close to M-1 and Lee Enfield no longer in nature. Fortunately, I was wrong! Good luck and all the best in life!

[CommanderDIVA]

Strange, I read in military memoirs about the use of a collimator on DShK installed on our torpedo boats during the Second World War

[IL-64]

Don’t confuse it with diopter ones?))))) From the sofa, you know better, of course

[Gray brother]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

Strange, I read in military memoirs about using a collimator on a DShK,

There it is. This is also, suddenly, a collimator sight.

[Charik]

Rambo with such a helicopter shot down in the 3rd series?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Charik

Rambo with such a helicopter shot down in the 3rd series?

No, from this:

[Charik]

- And what is this chain twist-sight?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Charik

and what is this chain twist-sight?

Anti-aircraft sight.
"Chain" is to take pre-emption on air targets, little crap I don't know why - can you determine the direction of movement?

[CommanderDIVA]

I read that on our torpedo boats during the Second World War, most likely American, supplied by Lend-Lease, but armed with our DShK, collimators were installed, possibly American-made, I can’t find the source, I read for a long time, but the boats operated in the Baltic or the Northern Fleet

[Gray brother]

Quote: CommanderDIVA

collimators were installed, possibly American-made

No, then with glass only in aviation were, because there is on-board power and you can use the backlight.

Of course there were models that worked from natural light, but for obvious reasons they were not particularly suitable for the case.
I have never heard that, in those days, power was supplied to the installation with a DShK, even a coupled one. And the batteries were then very low.

[lucul]

The first collimator sight for heavy machine guns created in Russia

As they say - better late than never. Necessary thing .

[SHURUM -BURUM]

From such news it becomes sad. The most primitive sight for production. Its only advantage is the convenience of shooting offhand and from the belly, when a very accurate hit is not required. Just so as not to miss. It's sad when such news is presented as another achievement. But scopes with target capture and tracking to a favorable position for a shot, but taking into account external influences and stabilization of the aiming mark, where are they? And they have been with our "Western friends" for six years now.

[Finn]

From a machine gun it’s better to cover from above, how to extinguish a fire from a fire extinguisher.

[IL-64]

The size of the reticle in angular minutes is interesting.

[gorenina91]

-And from what machine gun is firing from a helicopter that is presented in the video (in the clip)?
-Most likely, this weapon is not from Russian (not Soviet) production ... -I looked several times ... -It is difficult to understand ... -But, judging by the front sight, this is not a Russian (Soviet) machine gun ... -he has "fly legs" are apart; while Russian (Soviet) ones usually have these "front sight legs" rounded inward ... - Maybe I'm wrong ...
-But the very fact that the machine gunner fired without stopping -and everything is "in the white light like a pretty penny" ... and does not get ... -all this nullifies all this "helicopter shooting" ... -In this In case, it's easier to get into a helicopter from this Ishilov car and shoot it down than the helicopter itself will be destroyed by a car with barmaley ... -Because these cars are also equipped with machine guns (and even large-caliber and coaxial ones) ...
-So it’s even incomprehensible, who in this situation was more fortunate ...: Ishilovites, the fact that the helicopter turned out to be not a very effective machine gun, and even the machine gunner was caught "far from professional" ... -Or the helicopter pilots were more fortunate ...- the fact that this car did not have a large-caliber coaxial machine gun ... or MANPADS ...
- In any case, the absolute worthlessness of such "helicopter attacks" has been demonstrated ... in principle ... - Personally, I'm not bloodthirsty, but what's the point with such shooting ... - Somehow ...

[senima56]

"The new sight will be installed on Kord machine guns of 12,7 mm caliber, as well as other heavy machine guns of Russian production." Does this mean it is also suitable for KPVT 14,5 mm ?! Then great!

[Undecim]

What is the sensation? Americans have long produced such a sight - DCL120.

[Undecim]

A special modification is issued for helicopters - DCL120H.