From the Schnellfeuer Mauser and the PASAM submachine gun to the Norlite USK-G Standard

From the Schnellfeuer Mauser and the PASAM submachine gun to the Norlite USK-G Standard

Shooter with a submachine gun PASAM


Turn around in the march!
Verbal is not a place for slander.
Hush, speakers!
Your
word,
Comrade Mauser.
V. Mayakovsky. Left march


Weapon and firms. As soon as the K96 Mauser pistol appeared, and after it there were other self-loading pistols similar to it, it was noticed that all of them, with minimal reworking of the trigger, could become fully automatic, that is, shoot bursts. That's just the need for this at the beginning of the last century no one experienced. It was believed that a store with 6-7 rounds of ammunition is sufficient to solve all the problems that can stand in front of a shooter with a gun, and only ten are enough for the eyes! However, already in 1932, the Mauser Schnellfeuer Pistole Model 712 Mauser appeared, that is, the Mauser Automatic Pistol (7,63x25 Mauser), its automatic version with a magazine for 20 rounds. The rate of fire in automatic mode was very decent and amounted to about 850 rounds per minute, although some sources provide other data. In order to be able to hold it and direct it at the target, it was necessary to join a butt holster to it. And it is clear that 20 rounds at such a rate of fire were shot very quickly, but just as quickly it was possible to change the store on it! In 1938, its production was completed, but the company managed to produce 95000 pistols of this type, which were then in service in the Wehrmacht, and some were sold to China, which bought weapons around the world.


Classic Mauser C96 caliber 7,63 mm


"Mauser Bolo", that is, the "Bolshevik", which had a shortened trunk. The USSR purchased such Mausers in large quantities in Germany in the 20s. Actually, it was our orders then that saved this enterprise from bankruptcy. In the photo is a gift sample


Mauser Model 712


The Spanish Mauser Astra 902 had a fixed magazine with 20 rounds. Produced from 1928 to 1933 and delivered to China and the Wehrmacht

Well, some more of these Mausers were sold to Brazil. And there, about 300-400 Mausers, preserved from that time, were converted into a PASAM submachine gun in the 70s of the last century (which stands for “Pistola Automatica e Semi-Automatica Mauser”, “automatic and semi-automatic Mauser pistol”). After that, the “novelty” entered service with the military police of Rio de Janeiro. After all, a weapon still doesn’t throw it away! And besides, in its improved version, the Mauser really began to show better data than before.


Genesis of the design: from Mauser to PASAM

The conversion itself was very simple. The pistol automatics remained unchanged, including the fire translator located on the left. But the movable barrel from below and from the sides now covered the metal casing, to which, near the very muzzle, a handle with cutouts for the fingers was attached. Later, the fire control handle was changed, and instead of a removable wooden holster, a fixed metal butt was installed on it. The sight was marked at a distance of 1000 m, although it is unlikely that any of the Brazilian shooters had ever fired at such a distance. True, PASAM served in the Brazilian police for not so long: only until the mid-eighties of the last century, but served, and only later were replaced by something more modern.


The initial version of PASAM looked like this ...


The final version was already more like the original design

That is, in principle, turning any automatic pistol into a submachine gun firing in bursts is not a problem. Such a gun could be created specifically. And our Soviet APS is the best confirmation of this. But a small-capacity store, as well as a number of other circumstances, put an end to his career. Although during the assault on Amin’s palace, he proved to be a good weapon as a weapon. But, as they say, did not fit into the system.

But today, a lot of companies have appeared in the West that have managed to draw the right conclusion from all of the foregoing, namely: there is absolutely no need to produce a specially made submachine gun when you can release the conversion of a popular pistol that turns it into a ... submachine gun. At times cheaper and at the same time - at times more effective.

NORLITE eK, which was founded in 2018 in Nuremberg by Frank Satzinger, the former managing director of Oberland-Arms KG, is just one of these companies. The company's goal is to produce weapons primarily for sports shooting. “Of course, we attach great importance to the best materials, the highest quality of production, as well as the reliability and durability of our products,” her head said in an interview with reporters.

The company launches the USK kit (kit) with various options and accessories, and the kit’s modular design ensures that new components can also be easily installed on any original sample.

“We consciously do without fully equipped models to give our customers the opportunity to use any existing accessories: why buy what you already have! The price of our products is the result of a serious calculation. Therefore, we do not give discounts. ”


Glock 17 Pistol

Parts kits are designed to be used with frames from renowned pistols such as Glock. Put together, the Norlite USK-G kit and the Glock frame are, according to the terminology adopted abroad, already a carbine, again with a magazine either from a Glock pistol, or even with a special large-capacity magazine. Moreover, it’s not difficult to add a butt from the popular AR-15 rifle to this set, which results in a completely new product.


Norlite USK-G Standard with rifle butt AR-15

The receiver (receiver) USK-G is made of aluminum with a protective lacquer coating applied over the anodized coating. On top of the receiver is a solid Picatinny rail. Two more slats are on the left and right. The shutter handle is on the left, while it is made folding. The ejection of cartridges is carried out to the right. The back of the receiver is threaded to install the AR-15 buffer tube, so any replaceable stock used in this type of rifle can be put on it. AR-15. I do not like? You can put another butt or just a “plug” with a sling for the belt. Everything is based on the market principle: "any whim for your money."


Norlite-USK-G-4 - compact top receiver

Norlite USK-G conversion kits are compatible with the following Glock Gen 3, Gen 4 or Gen 5 spray gun models: G17, G19, G45, G34, G22, G23, G24, G35, G31 and G32. These kits are available in the following configurations:
Standard: length - 465 mm (18,3 inches); barrel length - 294 mm (11,6 inches); weight - 2950 g.
Compact: length - 420 mm (16,5 inches); barrel length - 254 mm (10 inches); Weight - 2,780 g.
Compact-D: length - 420 mm (16,5 inches); barrel length - 228 mm (9 inches); Weight - 2,690 g.
Subcompact: length - 380 mm (15 inches); barrel length - 214 mm (8,4 inches); weight - 2650 g.
Dimensions do not include the length and weight of the butt and muzzle devices.


USK-G - Standard 2


USK-G Sub-Compact


A line of three available sets

The combination of the Glock frame with the Norlite USK-G receiver does not require any modifications to the gun. To install it, you need to disassemble the Glock gun and connect its frame to the receiver from the USK-G kit. And that’s all! Moreover, all the details are ideally suited to each other, so the whole procedure takes only one minute in time! The characteristic of the gun is fully preserved, but the accuracy of the shooting increases significantly. German law does not allow firing in bursts, but, in principle, alteration for firing automatic fire from such weapons can be carried out by replacing only one part in the trigger.


Glock pistol with Norlite USK-G kit. From the pistol remains the handle and trigger. This item (No. 1) is not included in the kit, just like the store. All other details presented in this photo are included in the "kit". Also included in the kit are two models of flame arrester-compensators


Model 1


Model 2


If you wish, you can order not only any sight to your carbine - as you can see, there are several of them very different ...


... but even bipod!

The base price of the Norlite USK-G conversion kit is from 1280 Euros (about 1380 US dollars) to 1350 Euros (1460 US dollars) depending on the model and size. There is an online configurator on the company's website that allows you to choose the caliber and model of the Glock pistol, as well as add functions and accessories to the base kits. Interestingly, the USK-G kit alone is not considered a weapon and therefore can easily be stored in the buyer's apartment without any additional permission. Well, if you already have Glock, then you can buy it completely without hindrance. It is also planned to create modifications of calibers .22l.r., .40S & W, .357 SIG, .45ACP and 10-mm Auto.

So the market for new small arms in the West is constantly enriched today!
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  1. fighter angel 19 May 2020 15: 23 New
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    Crap, I'm sorry ...
    If this is a Norlight ad (and it most likely is), then what does the S-96 Mauser have to do with it ???
    And if the article is about the “Brazilian” version of Mauser and Astra, then what does Norlight have to do with it ???
    The transformation of an automatic pistol into a submachine gun is a complex and voluminous theme.
    Here it is not disclosed by a single percent.
    As an example to the author - “Armory Museum TM”, 1990, a series of articles “How a pistol became an automatic machine”.
    The author is Sergey Plotnikov.
    All in essence, the truth is very brief, but that was the format.
    Sorry, nothing at all.
    .
    1. kalibr 19 May 2020 16: 08 New
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      Dear Alexey! Here in VO there was a cycle of my materials on submachine guns. This is a kind of "catch-up shot." Not everything was found then, but ... it seemed to me interesting. You - no, to someone - yes. And here is a list of all the materials. Perhaps something will seem to you worthy of attention.
      Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. Part of 1. First-generation submachine guns
      Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. Part of 2. Unusual first generation PCB
      Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. CH 3. Second-generation submachine guns. MAS 38 vs. MP-35 and MAV 38A
      Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. CH 4. Second-generation submachine guns. MP-38 vs. PPD-38 / 40 and PPSH-41
      Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. Part of 5. Weapons brave Yankees. Submachine guns generation 2 +
      Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. Part of 6. Owen, Sudayev and others. Submachine guns generation 2 +
      Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. Part of 7. Spit against Shpagin
      Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. Part of 8. Submachine guns 3-th generation. Innovations and Priorities
      Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. Part of 9. British against British
      Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. Part of 10. For every taste!
      Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. Part of 11. In the shadow of the famous
      The John L. Hill Submachine Gun and the Unusual P90
      Submachine gun "Uzi" against "Mauser" and "Erma"
      The last of the universal. From MP5 to Spectrum
      The very "Kiraly" and his worthy heirs
      Pistols and guns of the era of change and ammunition for them
      Submachine guns on the road to perfection. Answers to the challenges of time
      Cartridges for submachine guns. Future and some fiction
      Multi-caliber bullet and special purpose submachine gun
      A new submachine gun is hard to come up with. Swede vs. Singaporean
      Submachine guns: a new design and design tricks
      Submachine gun old good traditions
      Chinese submachine guns
      There was even material - a submachine gun for Aelita!
      1. fighter angel 19 May 2020 16: 35 New
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        Dear Vyacheslav!
        Well, all the more, after such a cycle of articles, and suddenly such, excuse me, hack ...
        Not a level.
        Most likely, there was such an option: Norlight came up with a proposal to make an advertisement for the “appropriate remuneration,” but you won’t place purely advertising materials on the VO, so I had to hurry up with a “catch-up” shot. Attached to the Brazilian Mauser.
        So it turned out.
        For VO it’s kind of like an “article”, for Norlight it’s kind of like an advertisement, but for an author it’s kind of like a reward ... Or am I wrong?
        1. CTABEP 19 May 2020 17: 11 New
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          Only now I strongly doubt that the target audience of such designers is present in VO in sufficient quantities in order to pay someone for advertising here.
          1. fighter angel 20 May 2020 14: 30 New
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            Michael, the time now is such that without exception, all markets simply “break through” all possible “bottoms”. And where is now not only "theirs", but also any target audience, it is not clear to anyone from the word at all ...
        2. kalibr 19 May 2020 17: 42 New
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          Quote: fighter angel
          For VO it’s kind of like an “article”, for Norlight it’s kind of like an advertisement, but for an author it’s kind of like a reward ... Or am I wrong?

          In theory, excellent. Really - no. Now no one pays for such articles. Do not seduce any company. They themselves order printed materials wherever they want and to whom they consider it necessary. So this is just information. But good or bad - how to whom. I personally was surprised that this happened, so little of it ... Although it seemed to me that it was interesting.
      2. YOUR 20 May 2020 03: 49 New
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        Normal review article. If someone wants to get acquainted in more detail with the material, with the technical details, then at the end there is a bibliography.
        The article talks about the metamorphoses of a Mauser from a pistol to a PP, I think for the vast majority this discovery. They did not see and did not know.
  2. The modern "constructor" is still no matter where it goes, but the "Mauser" ... Oh and the freak! ...
    1. Gato 19 May 2020 17: 33 New
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      Oh and freak !.

      The taste and color ... I think it is very beautiful. Anyway - a symbol.
      1. Alteration? !!
        I’m not talking about the symbol of revolution, but about how the "modernizers" mocked him!
        1. Gato 20 May 2020 00: 11 New
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          Sorry, misunderstood. I'm about the original (just not gift glamor)
  3. mark1 19 May 2020 16: 12 New
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    According to experts, the barrel wildly overheats with relatively long automatic shooting (the walls are thin), so which of them is a machine gun, probably just someone in Brazil made money.
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  5. Catfish 19 May 2020 17: 20 New
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    Good evening everyone, long live Mauser! soldier
    and part was sold to China, which bought up weapons around the world.

    Well, the Chinese themselves released their "national" Mauser model under the name Type 17 "Shanxi 45", Cabra 11,43 mm, respectively.

    1. Gato 19 May 2020 17: 28 New
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      Long live the Mauser!

      Ahhhhhhh !!! Schnellfeuer 32 years old - my dream is I.D.O.T.T.A. for the rest of my life fellow
      True, if I’m not mistaken, even in the states he was attributed to assault weapons and banned from sale.
      By the way, is he classified as a submachine gun or as a carbine pistol?
      1. Catfish 19 May 2020 17: 39 New
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        Before World War I, it was classified as a Mauser “carbine pistol” on open sale. Well, then, after all, no one had any idea about such a "beast" as a submachine gun.
        But in some catalogs it was just like a “ten-shot Mauser automatic pistol”.
        1. Gato 19 May 2020 21: 57 New
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          Yes, that is right. I looked at the originals: if a regular C96 passes like a Selbstladepistole (self-loading pistol), then the M712 - Schnellfeuer (quick-firing), which, apparently, corresponds to our term “automatic”. But in the SS troops, he was adopted as a kleine Maschinenpistole M.32 (small submachine gun) - as Google said request
          1. Catfish 19 May 2020 22: 03 New
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            But in the SS troops, he was adopted as a kleine Maschinenpistole M.32 (small submachine gun)

            Well, this most likely refers to the Mauser "Model 712", with an automatic fire translator.
            1. Gato 19 May 2020 22: 11 New
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              He is with a magazine for 20 rounds, so to speak, in a natural habitat
              1. Catfish 19 May 2020 22: 50 New
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                And by the way, what kind of buttonholes, somehow on the SS is not very. Border service?
                1. bistrov. 20 May 2020 07: 53 New
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                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  what kind of buttonholes

                  It looks like an "oberscharführer", that is. must fulfill the duties of the commander of the second and third platoons in the field forces of the Waffen SS, and therefore must be armed with a submachine gun, the same 98K rifle is on duty ... Chance?
  6. Catfish 19 May 2020 17: 32 New
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    But the Chinese comrades did not stop there, which later led to the creation of another masterpiece of Chinese weapons of thought by crossing Mr. Mauser with Comrade Makarov. The new product of the Chinese military industry was called Type 80, the rule on armament was still not accepted. smile
    [Center]

    Features:
    Empty weight: 1160 g
    Length (without butt): 300 mm
    Barrel length: 140 mm
    Caliber: 7,62 mm
    Ammunition: 7,62 × 25 mm cartridge Type 51
    Magazine capacity: 10 or 20 rounds
    Initial speed of the bullet: 470 m / s
    Aim range: 50 m
    Maximum range: 1000 m
    Rate: 850 rounds per minute
    According to other sources, it was adopted by the special forces of the Celestial Empire in 1980.
    1. Undecim 19 May 2020 19: 41 New
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      And what is there from comrade Makarov?
      1. Catfish 19 May 2020 20: 07 New
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        Self-cocking, trigger, back of the shutter, rear sight, and from the handle "smacks of". No? Well, if you don’t agree, then I won’t argue in any case, I did not hold this gun in my hands, I believe that you too.
        1. Undecim 19 May 2020 20: 27 New
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          There are no details from PM. You will be very surprised, but I not only held him in my hands, I even shot him. G ... is rare, and the handle, despite its resemblance to the PM, is extremely uncomfortable.
          1. Catfish 19 May 2020 20: 34 New
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            In PM, the handle is also like driftwood, unlike PP and APS. For the rest, I’m not surprised at anything, even if you say that you drank vodka on the mountain with Father Fedor, eating a sausage, which he unified among the concessionaires. Sorry, Vic, I don't believe it.
            1. Mordvin 3 19 May 2020 20: 46 New
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              Quote: Sea Cat
              The PM grip is also like driftwood,

              The first PM, they say, had a completely different hilt.
              1. Catfish 19 May 2020 20: 59 New
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                Volodya, hello! I have never seen the first Makar model. In my army, the regular PM was the crew, and I do not know a single person who would like this gun. Although, my cousin, thirty years older than me, lied, he served as an opera in Nalchik, and when he ran down the steps, TT fell out of his belt, worked from the impact on the same steps, shot him in the leg and crushed his bone. This is the beginning of the fifties.
                He was visiting us and commented on this event: "And now, he says, we have a new Makarov pistol, and he has such a reliable fuse, such a reliable ..."
                It all depends on personal relationships, and on practice, whatever it may be.
                1. Mordvin 3 19 May 2020 21: 02 New
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                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  I have never seen the first Makar model.

                  Yes, one grandfather told me that the Makarovs in the first years of release had a more comfortable handle. But the truth or not - FIG knows. request
            2. Undecim 19 May 2020 20: 50 New
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              Sorry, Vic, I don't believe it.
              Do you have unbelief is philosophical or religious?
              1. Catfish 19 May 2020 21: 21 New
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                Well Vic, you give! In the sense of disbelief, I have always been guided by the well-known theory "On the influence of moonlight on the movement of the ponytail", and in the landing movement of how the Chinese Mauser makes its driving force in the energy direction of the bullet, I agree with you, it is pathologically energetic! And the argument is not appropriate here. Neither philosophical nor religious. If there is a Chinese Mauser in the world, then you must have met with him. Who argues. I just had no luck, for many years of direct communication with the weapons world, alas, it did not work out ... But I do not lose hope. smile
                1. Undecim 19 May 2020 21: 25 New
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                  I did not wait for an event, but simply went to China and asked for a shot from their pistols. The Chinese gladly provided me with this opportunity. True, before that I also surprised them a bit, giving me the opportunity to hold on to the nuclear button. Agree, not everyone succeeds. So we had a cultural exchange.
                  1. Mordvin 3 19 May 2020 21: 29 New
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                    Quote: Undecim
                    True, before that I also surprised them a bit, giving me the opportunity to hold on to the nuclear button.

                    How's that, unzipped his fly? belay
                    1. Undecim 19 May 2020 21: 36 New
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                      About the fly - is this not parapraxis?
                      The nuclear button was real, clicking on which sent an intercontinental ballistic missile in a given direction.

                      By the way, it is not red, but gray.
                      1. Mordvin 3 19 May 2020 21: 40 New
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                        Quote: Undecim
                        About the fly - is this not parapraxis?

                        No, I have nothing to do, so I'm kidding.
                        Quote: Undecim
                        The nuclear button was real

                        My respect. I wouldn’t press either. Well, nafig ...
                  2. Catfish 19 May 2020 21: 29 New
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                    Is the "nuclear button" a metaphor? wink
                    1. Undecim 19 May 2020 21: 41 New
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                      No, she is pictured in my comment.
                      1. Catfish 19 May 2020 21: 54 New
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                        Vic, I liked the photo with ChYmodan. laughing .

                        Now - the Chinese Mauser. drinks
                      2. Undecim 19 May 2020 21: 56 New
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                        Where did you see the suitcase?
                      3. Catfish 19 May 2020 22: 07 New
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                        True, before that I also surprised them a bit, giving me the opportunity to hold on to the nuclear button. Agree, not everyone succeeds.


                        Either you brought the remote with you, or the Chinese - Mauser.
                      4. Undecim 19 May 2020 22: 19 New
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                        This is the eleventh compartment of the SKP type KP 15V155 / 15V52U. Located at a depth of approximately 40 meters. Cats, by the way, do not want to go down under any circumstances.
                        It looks like this.

                        Here in that chair was a man who could lift four missiles into the air with ten warheads each.
                      5. Gato 19 May 2020 22: 32 New
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                        A Bandera splinter on the panel on the left, why did they paint? belay
                      6. Catfish 19 May 2020 23: 16 New
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                        I understand that the Chinese probably liked the excursion to the long-standing canned bunker, especially with a trident. Funny of course. Where did they shoot from their Mauser, on Sidorovich’s Cordon?

                        Well, if you drive excursions, then to all the "historical places".
                      7. Undecim 19 May 2020 23: 48 New
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                        The trident is irrelevant, and there are no such museums anywhere else, therefore it is interesting not only to the Chinese. And of their Type 80 burned in China.
                      8. Catfish 19 May 2020 23: 52 New
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                        That's for sure: who has museums and who ...
  • Pane Kohanku 20 May 2020 14: 28 New
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    The PM grip is also like driftwood

    but it’s more convenient than TT - from my own experience. Well, we already discussed. drinks
  • hohol95 19 May 2020 20: 01 New
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    In the evening, the guys were called to headquarters.
    Smiling broadly, Budyonny himself met them and each individually shook hands firmly.
    - Well done, Cossacks! - and, turning to the colonel, he asked in an undertone: - What would reward these eagles?
    “But we do not require a reward,” Gadfly answered for everyone, arms outstretched at the seams. “We are trying for Soviet power, Comrade Commander.”
    The colonel beamed:
    - Bachte, yaki my lads?
    Praising the guys for their loyalty to Soviet power, Budyonny pointedly noted:
    “But I suppose you won't refuse to get a Mauser?”
    - Here it is! - the Pathfinder exclaimed. - What Budenovets refuse decent weapons!

    Thus, the young warriors' old dream came true: all three received a Mauser. However, Yu-Yu refused, believing that there is no better “Karabakh” weapon.

    Blyakhin Pavel Andreevich "Red Devils"
    1. Gato 19 May 2020 21: 29 New
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      If the original sources do not lie, the “first-movers” loved the tactics of pairs: the first cuts with a checker, and the second with a Nagan (or two) covers it. Naturally, for the second issue, a Mauser is preferable - the store's capacity is larger and it recharges faster.
      And in some armies there were generally Mauserist units — as far as I know, in China and Mexico.
  • Undecim 19 May 2020 20: 22 New
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    If you approach, let's say, professionally, then all the samples described in the article are not submachine guns. And no one set the task of turning a pistol into a submachine gun.
    Therefore, different types of weapons are mixed in the article - automatic pistols and what is now called a carbine pistol.
    An automatic pistol is a highly specialized weapon. In fact, this is a pistol with the ability to fully automatic shooting in a critical situation. Such a weapon, unlike a submachine gun, is not designed for continuous automatic firing. There are very few examples of such weapons: Steyr "Repetierpistole M1912 / P16", several options for the Mauser S-96, Browning Hi-Power, APS, Heckler & Koch VP70, Beretta 93R.
    As for the kits for converting a pistol into a carbine pistol, today there are a huge number of them for pistols starting from the legendary M1911. But such a kit does not turn a gun into a submachine gun, and this product is exclusively of the civilian market. Manufacturers are well aware of this and none of them is positioning their kit as turning a gun into a submachine gun.
    1. Gato 19 May 2020 22: 24 New
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      Such a weapon, unlike a submachine gun, is not designed for continuous automatic firing

      And how would you classify the OTs-33 "Pernach" with a magazine for 27 rounds?
      1. Undecim 19 May 2020 22: 28 New
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        Even with a 27 round magazine, this is an automatic pistol. Just like the Dart.
        1. Gato 19 May 2020 22: 48 New
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          Um .. then the PKK can be classified as an assault rifle with a magazine for 30/45/60 rounds.
          1. Undecim 19 May 2020 23: 01 New
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            And you can open GOST 28653-2018 Small arms. Terms and Definitions.
          2. Catfish 19 May 2020 23: 24 New
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            The barrel, the barrel of the RPK is machine gun, it is thicker than any assault rifle, and therefore it heats up more slowly. And the current ones also have a replacement.
            1. Gato 19 May 2020 23: 32 New
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              Yes, I don’t argue. But, as the aforementioned GOST states:
              item 54 light machine gun: A machine gun, the design of which is provided as the main position for firing the machine gun support on the bipod and the buttstock emphasis on the shoulder.

              And the barrel of the RPK-74 is never thicker than an automatic, though it is longer. All the difference in bipod request
              1. Catfish 19 May 2020 23: 45 New
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                Thicker, thicker, at the breech, otherwise it will overheat instantly and spitting will begin.
                1. Gato 19 May 2020 23: 51 New
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                  spitting will begin

                  Which, in fact, happened in practice with the personnel who decided that the PKK was a full-fledged machine gun. Again, in practice, its difference from an assault rifle of the appropriate caliber is a large aiming range.
                  1. Insurgent 20 May 2020 09: 31 New
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                    Quote: Gato
                    Which, in fact, happened in practice with the personnel who decided that the PKK was a full-fledged machine gun. Again, in practice, its difference from an assault rifle of the appropriate caliber is a large aiming range.


                    A cautionary video to the judges of the PKK as a "under-gun".
                    There is a similar video of the Kalashnikov concern regarding various AKs. Find and Compare yes .

                    My comparison was made in practice, and it showed that the RPK-74 significantly exceeds the survivability of the AK-74, not least due to the thicker barrel and stiffer receiver.

              2. Gato 19 May 2020 23: 45 New
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                I am boring that classification is a rather arbitrary thing. For example, everywhere classified as PP Mini-Uzi is also an automatic pistol.
                1. Catfish 19 May 2020 23: 57 New
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                  Well, Mini - the devil knows him, but Micro - for sure. But actually, shit p / p, and why he was called "legendary"? It hits from the rear whisper, thrustiness and balance - zero, you can put a shell into the ejection window of a sleeve, heavy as Kalash ... but what can I say.
                  1. Gato 20 May 2020 00: 00 New
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                    Some of my friends from the IDF spoke in almost the same words.
                    1. Catfish 20 May 2020 00: 02 New
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                      Well, there the guys are purely practitioners and they know what they are talking about.
                2. Zufei 20 May 2020 17: 54 New
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                  Shooting with an open shutter - a submachine gun, no?
              3. Insurgent 20 May 2020 09: 26 New
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                Quote: Gato
                And the barrel of the RPK-74 is never thicker than an automatic, though it is longer. All the difference in bipod

                Actually, you RPK-74, held in your hands to declare so categorically?
    2. Catfish 19 May 2020 23: 20 New
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      Neither Mauser S-96, nor Browning Hi-Power, ever had the opportunity to conduct automatic fire, self-loading. request About everything else - everything is true.
      1. Undecim 19 May 2020 23: 57 New
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        Browning Hi-Power mistakenly inserted. As for the C96, I wrote "options."
      2. Catfish 20 May 2020 00: 01 New
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        What are the options for the "native" C96 with automatic fire?
        1. Undecim 20 May 2020 00: 38 New
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          M1932 / M712 Schnellfeuer
          1. Catfish 20 May 2020 19: 59 New
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            I meant exactly C96. M1932 is already an independent model.
            1. Undecim 20 May 2020 20: 20 New
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              “It is C96,” if he redid the USM to the possibility of automatic firing, there will no longer be “it is C96”. This is casuistry.
              1. Catfish 20 May 2020 20: 24 New
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                Casuistry is also possible, but if you order a barrel with the ability to fire automatically, you will have to write M1932, not C96. Something like this... smile
                1. Undecim 20 May 2020 20: 38 New
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                  In any case, self-loading and automatic pistols must have some kind of difference in designation. Therefore, the self-loading Mauser of the Mauser company is S-96, the automatic Mauser of the Mauser company is M712.
                  1. Catfish 20 May 2020 21: 15 New
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                    What is it about - there is one constructor, but the systems are different.
                    1. Undecim 20 May 2020 21: 20 New
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                      Constructors are also different. C-96 - Federle brothers. M712 - Carl Westinger.
                      1. Catfish 20 May 2020 21: 25 New
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                        I meant a company under the brand name of which weapons are well known.
        2. Zaits 20 May 2020 00: 58 New
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          Well, the 712th model is quite a variation of the C96, only with Spanish roots.
          And minor variations by year of production are tortured to count, but are listed as C96.
          Including, it is rather a matter of terminology.
    3. Zaits 20 May 2020 00: 28 New
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      Quote: Undecim
      ... fully automatic firing pistol ... Browning Hi-Power


      Corrected, the question is being removed ...
  • AllBiBek 19 May 2020 22: 35 New
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    Two things go wild most of all; the fact that mushrooms (and this is the kingdom of Mushrooms!) are everywhere sold in the Vegetables department, and the fact that Mauser X ninety-six is ​​transcripted as K96. How long to?!
    1. Gato 19 May 2020 22: 58 New
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      Mauser C ninety-six transcripts like K96

      So it was accepted: from Construktion 96 - design 96, K96
      And mushrooms are very useful vegetables: they will feed and cartoons will show laughing drinks
      1. Catfish 19 May 2020 23: 50 New
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        It depends on what kind of mushrooms, or even from some fungi, they say such a stick up happens that the grass is resting. True, I am not special in this matter, only by rumors.
        1. Gato 19 May 2020 23: 55 New
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          such a stick up happens

          Did I understand you correctly? belay repeat
          Although properly cooked mushrooms also excite ... uh .. appetite laughing drinks
          1. Catfish 19 May 2020 23: 59 New
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            Right. laughing drinks And the fried butter ... Everything, waking up ... it's time to sleep. fellow
            1. Gato 20 May 2020 00: 04 New
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              Good night fellow
              1. Catfish 20 May 2020 00: 15 New
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                Happily. smile drinks
  • Gato 20 May 2020 00: 15 New
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    Well, if you already have Glock, then you can buy it completely without hindrance

    Stop teasing! am
    1. Zaits 20 May 2020 01: 07 New
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      And don’t say, they’re specifically mocking me.