Serbian Foreign Ministry is outraged by the fact that in Brussels Nicola Tesla was called a Croat

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Serbian Foreign Ministry is outraged by the fact that in Brussels Nicola Tesla was called a Croat

Today, under the heading “Let's Talk About Science”, “Military Review” publishes material on, so to speak, the “discovery” made by officials in Brussels. The European Union authorities in the educational section of Europe for Schools published material that talks about Nicola Tesla. The material reports that Tesla was engaged in research in the field of electricity and electrical engineering. What is the "discovery"?

It lies in the fact that the authorities of the European Union “discovered” a Croat in Nicole Tesla.



From a publication on a specified EU educational resource:

Nikola Tesla is a world famous Croatian scientist.

Such a publication could not be ignored in Serbia. In Belgrade, material on the official educational resource of the European Union, calling Tesla a Croat, was declared an information war against the Serbian state.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Serbia sent a note to Brussels stating the inadmissibility of this kind of “mistake”.

In Belgrade, outraged by the European publication, they reminded EU officials that Nikola Tesla was an ethnic Serb. It is noted that the EU apparently decided to call Tesla a Croat because he was born in the Croatian town of Smilyan (at the time of 1856 - the Austrian Empire).

Serbian side:

The educational system of the European Union should be aware that Nikola Tesla himself was proud of his Serbian origin and his Croatian small homeland.

The Minister of Culture of Serbia demands the EU to apologize and correct information on the origin and ethnicity of the great scientist.

After that, Europe for Schools made changes, but not in all versions that correspond to the languages ​​of the EU countries. So, the wording in some versions is corrected to "Nikola Tesla, born in Croatia ..." At the same time, the mention that Tesla is a Serb has not yet appeared.
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  1. +11
    10 May 2020 18: 41
    strange .. why not an Albanian ??) but just a Croat?
    1. +13
      10 May 2020 19: 05
      Quote: Atlant-1164
      strange .. why not an Albanian ??) but only croatian?

      these are also "ours". Yes

      I think that the correction made:
      “Nikola Tesla, born in Croatia ...
      -not quite correctly, officially he was born in Austria-Hungary
      1. +1
        10 May 2020 19: 14
        -n’t quite correct, officially he was born in Austria-Hungary

        This is about the same as saying. "He was born not in the Tula region, but in the Russian Federation." In multiethnic states, it usually makes sense to specify more specifically where a person was born and lived.
        1. +7
          10 May 2020 20: 31
          Quote: forest1
          "He was born not in the Tula region, but in the Russian Federation."

          if you tell a foreigner "in the Tulka region" instead of the Russian Federation, he simply will not understand anything.
          Quote: forest1
          In multi-ethnic states, it usually makes sense to specify more specifically where a person was born and lived.

          It does not make any sense: Tesla is a vivid example of this: he is a Serb, born in the Austrian Empire, no independent "Croatia" then existed.

          So are the marshals of Tymoshenko. Vatutin and others were not born on the so-called. "ukraine" (what ukry like to write). but in the Russian Empire.

          In general, Tymoshenko can be written down to ... Moldova and Romania and even Gagauzia-there included Bujak of Bessarabia and even during his life (we are talking about Romania)
          1. -3
            10 May 2020 20: 32
            Croatia may not have been independent, but he had a passport with the Kingdoms of Croatia and Slavonia
            1. +9
              10 May 2020 21: 20
              Quote: forest1
              Croatia may not have been independent, but he had a passport with the Kingdoms of Croatia and Slavonia

              passport of a subject of Franz Joseph. Emperor of Austria King of Hungarian, Dolmatinsky, Croatian, Slavonic.

              separate Croatia is not visible.

              Tymoshenko -Where was he born, in Ukraine or in Russia?
              1. -6
                10 May 2020 21: 24
                Okay. then consider Tesla Austro-Hungarian. Actually, it doesn’t matter to me what is in your head.
                1. -18
                  10 May 2020 21: 45
                  The government was Austro-Hungarian and the people were mostly Croatian. From the 15. Century when the Orthodox came from the east, they began to assimilate with their home because there were many similarities, for example, language and traditions.
                  1. -6
                    10 May 2020 21: 48
                    I see you registered specially to leave your comments on this topic, as you understand it well. Well, you clarified the situation. We are now starting to understand the history of the issue.
                  2. +1
                    12 May 2020 13: 07
                    Quote: ViktorHorvat
                    The government was Austro-Hungarian and the people were mostly Croatian.

                    In the Austro-Hungarian Empire?
                    1. -2
                      12 May 2020 15: 39
                      Yes, on the part of the empire that is today in Croatia and BiH. Do you want to indicate that Hungary lived here ??
                      1. +1
                        12 May 2020 17: 31
                        Quote: ViktorHorvat
                        Yes, on the part of the empire that is today in Croatia and BiH. Do you want to indicate that Hungary lived here ??

                        I thought you mean that the majority of the population of the Austro-Hungarian Empire were Croats.
                      2. -1
                        12 May 2020 18: 03
                        No, I didn’t mean that. Croats in the territory of today's Republic of Croatia and part of Bosnia and Herzegovina have been living since about the seventh century. Empires, governments were then disappeared. In this long history, the national feeling of the South Slavic peoples developed and continues to develop. The story seemed stormy and often bloody, fraternal peoples unfortunately fought among themselves. Maybe the reason is that we are on the border of the western and eastern world, which was staged from the rupture of the Roman Empire into two parts.
                2. +1
                  11 May 2020 06: 43
                  Quote: forest1
                  Okay. then consider Tesla Austro-Hungarian.

                  Thank you! Yes

                  but I consider him a Serb born in the Austrian Empire

                  Actually, it doesn’t matter to me what is in your head.
                  join in regarding your head.
                3. MMX
                  0
                  11 May 2020 12: 18
                  Quote: forest1
                  Okay. then consider Tesla Austro-Hungarian. Actually, it doesn’t matter to me what is in your head.


                  Confuse citizenship and nationality - these are five good
                  1. +1
                    11 May 2020 13: 21
                    This is not an easy question. recourse
                    The physicists Landau, Joffe, Lifshitz, and others can be considered Soviet.
                    by scientists - by citizenship. And it is right.
                    And you can consider them Jewish scholars - by nationality.
                    And this is also correct.
                    1. MMX
                      0
                      11 May 2020 15: 51
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      This is not an easy question. recourse
                      The physicists Landau, Joffe, Lifshitz, and others can be considered Soviet.
                      by scientists - by citizenship. And it is right.
                      And you can consider them Jewish scholars - by nationality.
                      And this is also correct.


                      The topic raised a question in a very definite way: Tesla's nationality. A comrade under the nickname forest1 began to speculate, they say which side to look at.
                      If you follow his logic, then Landau, Joffe, Lifshits are Russian scientists, their passport is Soviet, right?
              2. -11
                10 May 2020 21: 37
                Tesla had no connection with Serbia as a state. Ethnicly, Serbs migrated in the 15th century to the territory where Tesla was born by decree of the Austrian king after the Ottoman invasion of the territory of Serbia. Together with home Catholics, they fought against the Turks and shared the good and the bad. They rarely called themselves Serbs; they were coiled by the Orthodox. The question of whose Tesla and politicized origin of this Great Man is and the vile insult of world genius
                1. 0
                  11 May 2020 08: 52
                  The question of whose Tesla and politicized origin of this Great Man is and the vile insult of world genius

                  This question is removed by actions. Nikola Tesla organized a fundraiser for the Serbian army, and not for Franz Joseph or the home-made.
                  1. +2
                    11 May 2020 11: 32
                    Only he himself could answer the Question by who Tesla felt himself, a Croat, a Serb, or someone else. And he said that he was proud of the Serbian family and the Croatian homeland. There is no Austro-Hungarian empire. To understand this, you must carefully study the history of the South Slavic peoples and the geopolitical history of the Balkan. Field Marshal of the Austro-Hungarian Empire Svetozar Boroevichi would also be Orthodox as Tesla, births in the territory of today's Croatia. And he felt like a croatian
                    1. 0
                      11 May 2020 12: 06
                      Why are you lying so shamelessly ???
                      Boroevich was also ORTHODOXES OF SERB, ON THIS WAS ON THE ALPS FRONT WHERE ITALIANS BURED !!! SUCCESSFUL GENERAL AUSTRO HUNGARIANS! ALREADY 1917. He WANTED TO JOIN THE SERBIAN ARMY, EST AND REGISTRATION !!!
                    2. -2
                      11 May 2020 12: 12
                      Only he himself could answer the Question by who Tesla felt himself, a Croat, a Serb, or someone else.

                      I already wrote how Tesla answered this question. Clearly and unequivocally.
                      The example of the traitor Boroevich is completely off topic, especially the character unknown to anyone.
                      1. 0
                        11 May 2020 12: 28
                        You expressed your opinion and that’s all ... just your opinion on this topic.
                      2. -1
                        11 May 2020 12: 46
                        This is a fact.
                      3. -1
                        11 May 2020 13: 01
                        Exactly, the fact is that they expressed their opinion.
                2. +1
                  11 May 2020 12: 02
                  Croats why lying? MYA'S FAMILY FROM !!! ALL THERE IN FACES (MILITARY KRAINA) WERE BORDERS OF ORTHODOX SERBES AS A TESLIN FAMILY, THERE HAVE BEEN CROATS UNTIL THE CATHOLIC ARRIVAL OF THE HUBSBURGS IN THE 18 AND 19 CENTURIES WHEN THE PEOPLE BEFORE OPENING!
                  BECAUSE THE NAZI POWER OF KHOVATIA MADE IN THE WWII THE GENOCIDE OF THE SERBIAN PEOPLE IN THE TERRITORY OF THE WAR KRAINE, BETWEEN THE OTHER WAS DIED AND THE WHOLE FAMILY NIKOLA TESLE !!!
                  DOES YOU HAVE STEED ???
                  1. +1
                    11 May 2020 12: 21
                    I see your own story. Maybe your family is from there, and mine too. Please express your opinion and be civilized and culturally, I did not call you names with the words you offend me.
                    1. 0
                      11 May 2020 12: 33
                      Tell your family name and where I will tell you when you started being Croatim and when you adopted Catholicism !!! So it will be no offense! wink
                      1. 0
                        11 May 2020 12: 59
                        I don’t need someone talking about me, you yourself do your own name and origin and will not offend.
                      2. 0
                        11 May 2020 13: 06
                        I AM THE ORTHODOX SERBE, MY FAMILY FROM THE WAR IS EXTREMELY SERBIAN EXTREME, LIKE FAMILY DRAZHICH, ALL DRAZHICHI IN THE NAZI STATE OF CROATIA, SERBIES WERE ALWAYS, but it’s quite like I’m like you were Catholic I am sure that your family has relatives of the Orthodox Serbs, if you are from LIKE! ;)
                      3. +1
                        11 May 2020 13: 15
                        Stop shouting brother Serb :): I'm not here to provoke anyone or to give lessons to someone. I wanted to comment on the topic, do I have rights to this? You are a Serb and I am Horvat, hello, it is a pity that such hatred towards me is directed on your side.
                      4. 0
                        11 May 2020 13: 25
                        There is no hatred, BUT THE TRUTH AND TRUTH it is that over everything, and you did not tell the thread the truth of the thread truth, but simply tried to TREAT THE PEOPLE HERE !!! So there are no opinions, but a LODGE !!!
                        The historical TRUTH THAT NIKOLA TESLA ORTHODOXEN SERB WAS BORN IN THE STATE AUSTRO HUNGARIAN, THERE WAS NOT ANY CROATIA, EVEN THE MILITARY KRAINA - THE SERBIAN KRAINA HAS THE ATRUMAN STATE, UNDERSTAND THE ATRUMAN STATE, ATRIUMI! The first Croatian power was created by 1941 Hitler, Nazi NDH!
                      5. -2
                        11 May 2020 13: 54
                        The right to an opinion no matter what it should not have been at skin.
                        The first power of the Croats, of course, was not the NDC of Kotor, which was the greatest disgrace of Croatian history. But we are talking about the Middle Ages and the meaning of the term state / power will be saved differently from today's meaning. The modernist Republic of Croatia is today internationally recognized and a member of the UN is based on ZAVNOKH when it became a federal republic of the Yugoslav Federation and a winner against the Nazis and fascists.
                        https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Земельное_антифашистское_вече_народного_освобождения_Хорватии
                      6. -1
                        11 May 2020 16: 50
                        Do you want to hear the TRUTH AND ABOUT ZAVAVNO AND WHO IN CROATIA Fought AGAINST Hitler, ITALIANS AND TERMS? or is it not interesting to you? All the famous partisan divisions in Croatia until 1943 and the Stalingrad defeat of Hitler and the surrender of Italy with a pistol were unable to find a Croat !!! All these divisions WERE SERBIAN PARTISANS !!! In 1943, the Dalmatintsi partisans began to attack in the lead, and then BROZ in 1943, turned into a partisan a lot of home-builders and Ustashs, about one BUTTERFLY !!! And this is what I wrote from the FIRST EYE of the PARTISIANS of the OD Fighters of 1941, against Hitler and the ego of the auxiliary servants of the Ustash servants! But it doesn’t interest you, however, that BROZ was on the Serbian front in 1914, but not Field Marshal Boroevich, and that Broz was a level 33 masson, both TROTSKIST and NATO AGENT? smile
                      7. +1
                        11 May 2020 18: 03
                        This is your story and you are free to believe what you want, and I am both proud of my grandfathers and both grandmothers of Kotor who fought against Italian fascists, German Nazis, Croatian quisling ustashi and Serbian quisling chetniks. Yusip Broz was a great man whom both West and East respected, and Draza Mikhailovich and Ante Pavelic were freaks who chose the side of evil and, thanks to Croatian, Serbian and other Yugoslav antifascists, their back was ripped off.
                      8. +1
                        11 May 2020 18: 08
                        PS. Croatian anti-fascist in Belgrade
                        https://slobodnadalmacija.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/ovo-je-90-godisnji-zdenko-duplancic-mitraljezac-legendarne-prve-proleterske-brigade-i-cuvar-uspomena-na-nob-u-splitu-nije-nikad-bilo-ustasa-i-svecenici-su-bili-antifasisti-624324
                      9. 0
                        11 May 2020 19: 07
                        I don’t need to tell me according to the DALMATIAN PARTISANS, I know this is the LIGHT PARTY OF THE CATHOLICS !!! The chronicle is somehow different from the official history. And my Serby fought against the Nazis, the Germans, the Italians and the Turrets, and all and OD 1941 !!! no od 1943 !!! wink
                      10. 0
                        11 May 2020 19: 08
                        AND EXACTLY IN CROATIA !!!
                        My life may be my story for you, but it is TRUTH AND TRUTH!
                      11. 0
                        11 May 2020 19: 18
                        You more carefully read what I wrote. Yes, there were freaks between the Croats, but there were also between the Serbs and they fought on the side of the Nazis. Most of the one and the other were anti-fascists and they won. Sculpts the label of the peoples how you eat sculpts the Croats there is a kind of chauvinism. I wanted to tell you about this.
                      12. +1
                        11 May 2020 18: 24
                        “Do you want to hear the TRUTH AND ABOUT ZAVAVNO AND WHO IN CROATIA Fought AGAINST HITLER, ITALIANS AND TERMS?”
                        For example, the national hero Stepan Filipovich, Horvath fought against Hitler until the Chetniks of Serbs quislings kidnapped and transferred him to the Gestapo. He was hanged in '42 and his body hung for several days.
                      13. +1
                        11 May 2020 18: 25
                        https://hr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stjepan_Filipović
                      14. +2
                        11 May 2020 18: 35
                        Look carefully at my Serbian friend, the legendary photo of Filippovic before his death, who is there standing at the bottom of it ... the chetnik next to the Nazis ... accidentally looks like a Bandera?
                      15. -1
                        11 May 2020 19: 10
                        Don’t do it. Victor Uslishash still has a lot of TRUTH AND THIS DOESN'T LIKE YOU !!! wink
                      16. 0
                        11 May 2020 19: 16
                        It’s only that you would know FOURNERS FIRST IN EUROPE STARTED ARMED RESISTANCE TO HITLER !!! smile Between the Chetniks there were Croats from Split, Slovenes, Macedonians, Muslims from Bosnia! CHETNIKI WERE ROYALTIES AND RESISTANCE TO HITLER AND THE NAZIS.
                        Ustasha against the queenslings were the servant of the occupier! wink
                      17. 0
                        11 May 2020 19: 23
                        Yes, that’s why the chetnik accompanies the anti-fascist Filippovitch next to the Nazi officers ... don’t make me laugh
                      18. -1
                        11 May 2020 19: 25
                        It was Nedichevtsi, much like Croatian housekeeping, quislings and the servant of the occupier! wink
                      19. 0
                        11 May 2020 19: 31
                        Hahaha
                        https://express.24sata.hr/life/prica-o-bratstvu-ustasa-i-cetnika-iza-legendarne-slike-21469
                        This cheerful friendship is also ustasha and neditschevtsi ?? Poor Chetniks how to substitute them
                      20. -1
                        11 May 2020 19: 21
                        Who said that STEVAN FILIPOVICH WAS NOT A FIGHTER AGAINST NAZIS AND TODAY IS STREET IN BELGRADE OF STEVAN FILIPOVICH !!! Only in Croatia crossed out all anti-fascists!
                      21. 0
                        11 May 2020 19: 26
                        Do you have a basement personality? He was hanged by the Chetniks and the Gestapo about Kotor you wrote that they were anti-fascists
                      22. -1
                        11 May 2020 19: 33
                        So let's start the lesson from the beginning, can I? When Hitler defeated Yugoslavia, he made several powers! Serbia is what was left of it was under the GERMAN DIRECTORY MANAGEMENT! There, the Nemtsi formed the Queen’s Queen Vlad and the armament of sili! , Chetniks immediately form RESISTANCE to the occupier CHETNIKI in full DIFFERENCE od quisling Nedichevtsy! wink
                      23. 0
                        11 May 2020 19: 42
                        In vain you’re wasting time, my friend, our discussion is not interesting to anyone who is interested and not too lazy to find literature for himself.
                      24. 0
                        11 May 2020 19: 48
                        And as the end of the parable I’ll say that you call your chetniks the royalists tightly collaborated with Hitler to realize their goals, just like Ustashi and Bandera. Death to fascism freedom of the people!
                      25. 0
                        11 May 2020 20: 04
                        There were many interesting personalities of anti-fascists in Croatia, RADA KONCHAR, and IVO LOLA RIBAR. But one must ask in Broz what happened to them and how DIED! wink
                      26. 0
                        12 May 2020 17: 38
                        BREC))) Hot .... Balkan guys)))
            2. +11
              10 May 2020 21: 21
              forest1 (Pavel1), but do you have any idea how the passport of a citizen of Austria-Hungary really looked? The picture that you posted on the wiki is not a passport, it’s just an Austro-Hungarian policeman called the Landes-Regierung Briefbogen), a card, issued at age 15 and serving as the basis for a passport at age 18.
              But the real passport of that time








              1. 0
                10 May 2020 21: 30
                I focused on the wiki. If inaccuracy crept in there. And this is not the passport itself, but a document prior to its receipt. That is unlikely in this context for us it is significant, if only because on it he most likely received his passport a little later. Of course, I am not strong in Austro-Hungarian passports, as this is a very specific topic for people living in another territory a century and a half later.
              2. +1
                11 May 2020 07: 02
                Quote: Rich
                forest1 (Pavel1), but do you have any idea how the passport of a citizen of Austria-Hungary really looked? The picture that you posted on the wiki is not a passport, it’s just an Austro-Hungarian policeman called the Landes-Regierung Briefbogen), a card, issued at age 15 and serving as the basis for a passport at age 18.
                But the real passport of that time









                Hello Dmitry!

                Confused by the inscription on the passport: "Austrian republic" recourse

                These are apparently later times ...
                1. +5
                  11 May 2020 07: 26
                  Hi Andrew.
                  Confused by the inscription on the passport: "Austrian Republic" recourse
                  These are apparently later times ...

                  No, the passport is real 1859. The fourth photo has a date. (photo increases by click)

                  What confused you is the latest sticker on the first page of your passport at a time when Austria-Hungary ceased to be a monarchy (well, do not change the documents). The first page before the republican sticker - on photo No. 3
                  1. +1
                    11 May 2020 08: 32
                    Quote: Rich
                    What confused you is the latest sticker on the first page of your passport at a time when Austria-Hungary ceased to be a monarchy (well, do not change the documents). The first page before the republican sticker - on photo No. 3

                    Exactly! hi

                    Interesting that i and I havel have the same passport with almost the same sticker! Yes
              3. +1
                11 May 2020 07: 07
                What is there about religion? I can’t make out - too finely.
                If it is written "orthodox" - then you can safely write in the Serbs, if Catholic - in the Croats. This is their main and defining difference.
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    3. +5
      10 May 2020 19: 43
      Let them rejoice that they have not reckoned the Body with the Ukroins! lol And then they will call him Mykola Teslonuk. crying lol !!!!!!
      1. +3
        10 May 2020 19: 56
        they will call it Mykola Teslonyuk

        No, rather Mykola Teslenko, it’s not long to wait.
    4. +3
      10 May 2020 20: 29
      strange .. why not an Albanian ??) but just a Croat?

      and something else is strange to me - "Nikola Tesla, born in Croatia ..."
      Actually, as if in Austria-Hungary. Croatia declared independence only in 1991.
      Here it is the vaunted European education wassat
    5. 0
      10 May 2020 20: 49
      Ah, G. Perelman, then who?
      1. +5
        10 May 2020 21: 18
        Stanislav Lem. A Jew, born in Lviv, then part of Poland.
        But the whole world knows him as a POLISH writer and philosopher.
        Neither Ukraine, nor Israel are discussing this topic.
        1. +1
          11 May 2020 07: 11
          That is why it is correct to write like this:
          Stanislav Lem, an ethnic Jew, was born in Lviv, which was then part of Poland.
          Nikola Tesla, an ethnic Serb, was born in the Kingdom of Croatia and Slavonia, which was part of the Auto-Hungarian Empire.
          But the fact is that the liberals of their Brussels, that Tesla's Serbian origin, that the mention of the Austrian empire is equally unpleasant.
          And in general: "Ahmed was born in Sweden, which means Ahmed is a Swede."
    6. 0
      11 May 2020 14: 07
      From 1891 to 1943 he was a US citizen!
  2. -5
    10 May 2020 18: 44
    In vain they drive him. He was born in the Croatian village of Smilyan. He had a passport of the kingdom of Croatia. Well, by faith he was Orthodox, yes, of course, closer to the Serbs. But usually faith does not determine nationality. According to modern concepts, it is probably the most correct to consider him, a Croat, of Serbian origin. Purely political fuss that the Serbs are Croats, the only difference is faith, well, and the fact that the Croats have no Cyrillic alphabet.
    1. +2
      10 May 2020 19: 04
      Most of Croatia was the Croatian banana of the Hungarian Kingdom of Austria-Hungary. A smaller part of Croatia, Dalmatia, was part of the Austrian part of Austria-Hungary.
      1. -2
        10 May 2020 19: 07
        Well, now it’s up to you to figure out who he really was, a Hungarian, an Austro-Hungarian, a Croatian Banovan, a Dalmatian, an Austrian, a Serb or a Croat, and the truth will triumph.
        1. +2
          10 May 2020 19: 36
          What there may not be clear. Orthodox, means Serb, Croatian Catholic, Bosnian Muslim. All the national cuisine of the Balkan Slavs in a nutshell. I do not take Albanians into account, they do not belong to the Slavs.
          1. +1
            10 May 2020 19: 51
            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B1%D1%8B-%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8
            what do you propose to do with this. We will also find Orthodox Croats.
            catholic croatian

            Here we can conclude that the Poles with the Czechs are Croats. In vain you simplify everything. The world is more complicated
            1. 0
              10 May 2020 20: 17
              Quote: forest1
              Poles with Czechs are Croats

              And here are the Poles with Czechs? Read carefully. I wrote about the Balkan Slavs.
              The world is more complicated
              Correctly. So do not complicate it once again.
              1. 0
                10 May 2020 20: 21
                Well let's say. But still, it’s not as simple as you think. It’s also all ridiculous to say that the Orthodox Russian, the Muslim is Caucasian. Buddhist is Kalmyk. Not at all a fact. And then you can still break the spears of who are the Russians, and whether the Kalmyks can be Russian and the Russians Buryats.
                1. +10
                  10 May 2020 20: 33
                  Once again, why is everything so complicated, breaking spears and a head. Nationality, a person determines for himself. Who wants to be Russian, who else who, yes please. Tesla always claimed to be Ser. What debate is, it’s not at all clear. True in Ukraine, half of the Russians suddenly became Ukrainians (such as born in Ukraine, then Ukrainian), but it did not bring them happiness. laughing
                  1. -8
                    10 May 2020 20: 47
                    In Ukraine, any Russian and non-Russian, if he is a patriot of his homeland, becomes a Ukrainian, a citizen of Ukraine, do you have an eyesore like that?
                    1. +3
                      10 May 2020 21: 08
                      Quote: Driver D
                      sho so eyes calloused you?

                      What does callus mean? The result is important in everything. Where is victory, where is achievement, where is success? Patriots of Ukraine, engaged in self-satisfaction, forget that from this action, the child will not be born, the economy will not revive and Crimea will not return.
                      1. -5
                        10 May 2020 21: 50
                        Patriots of Ukraine are not only those stupid people who rode on the Maidan, but also those who plow in the fields, melt steel in factories, generally ordinary citizens who are busy with pressing problems and do not interfere in politics. You always generalize everyone under one comb, the fact that in Kiev and Ukraine 70% speak Russian not a bit means that all Russians dream of Russia.
                      2. 0
                        10 May 2020 22: 29
                        LKW, are you this? Happy Holiday!
                      3. +1
                        10 May 2020 23: 33
                        That I, thank you, mutually!) After the 8th ban, I reincarnated again). The site is terribly interesting, but when Ukraine and Ukrainians are scammed, I can’t help myself and again the mnu punishes the moderators.)
                      4. +1
                        10 May 2020 23: 49
                        Thank! Why blame you - we are one people (here completely agree with Vladimir Vladimirovich). Good luck on the road, not a nail - not a wand! hi
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                      6. -1
                        11 May 2020 21: 51
                        You're right about Russia do not dream, but about the alliance with Russia and Belarus, YES!
                    2. +6
                      11 May 2020 02: 47
                      You have no distinction between Ukrainians in the ethnic sense and Ukrainians in the political sense, which creates some confusion. Here in Russia there are Russians as the largest people and Russians as a set of citizens of the Russian Federation. Although in Ukraine, for some reason, the word "Russian" designates precisely the ethnic Russian, and for some reason even the Russian language is called Russian in the Ukrainian language. In Kazakhstan, there are Kazakhs and there are Kazakhs.
                      1. +1
                        11 May 2020 13: 33
                        Quote: Sergej1972
                        You have no difference between Ukrainians in the ethnic sense and Ukrainians in the political sense

                        That's right. In Ukraine, there is such a political situation and a split in society that if you call yourself a Ukrainian, then by definition you are simply obliged to support the existing policy of Ukraine. You can scold the government, but you simply have to hate the Russians, otherwise you are not Ukrainian. So, the differences between the ethnic Ukrainian and the political, after the Maidan of 2014, have long been erased. They also draw a tale over the ears that any citizen of Ukraine is Ukrainian, which is completely wrong.
        2. +3
          10 May 2020 22: 00
          He himself seemed to consider himself a Serb. But, as far as I know, Serbo-Croatian troubles did not interest him much.
        3. +5
          11 May 2020 03: 08
          A Serb, the son of a Serbian Orthodox priest, who considered himself a Serb. I think so. there are no options. And the Croats are also proud of him, because he was born in the territory now included in Croatia.
    2. +3
      10 May 2020 20: 41
      forest1 (Pavel1): He was born in the Croatian village of Smilyan

      The village of Smilyan in 1856 at the moment of the birth of Tesla, was part of the county of Gospic, Lands of Croatia and Slavonia as part of Hungary of the Austro-Hungarian Empire Yes
      forest1 (Pavel1): I had a passport of the Kingdom of Croatia

      A non-existent passport of a non-existent kingdom? belay laughing
      Until 1891, when he received US citizenship, Tesla had citizenship, and, accordingly, a passport of Austria-Hungary Yes
      1. +1
        10 May 2020 22: 07
        не существующее королевство? https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE_%D0%A5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B8_%D0%A1%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F
        Maybe in this article sheer lies and it should be deleted?
        1. +6
          11 May 2020 00: 46
          Do not delete anything.
          From the wiki article, at your link “Lands: Croatia, Slavonia and Dalmatia, as the Triune Kingdom of Croatia and Slavonia, are the lands of the Hungarian crown.”, That is, the kingdom of Hungary, which in turn is part of the Auto-Hungarian Empire. Thus, neither the sovereign kingdom of Croatia, its king and its passports existed in nature.
          For example, the Republic of Kazan included the kingdoms of Kazan, Astrakhan, Polish, Siberian, Georgian, Armenian, etc. So what? There were no kings in them. moreover, their own passports, which by definition are only citizens of sovereign states. All residents of these areas had passports only RI. So with Tesla - he could have a passport only AVVI, and not any other. About his passport of the Kingdom of Croatia - this is complete nonsense, going against the very principles of the monarchy.
          PS. Here is the full title of the Emperor of the Russian Empire for 1917
          “God’s blessed mercy, We, NN, Emperor and Samoderzhets All-Russian, Moscow, Kiev, Vladimirsk, Novgorod; Tsar of Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland, Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Khersonis of Taurida, Tsar of Gruzinski; Sovereign Pskov and Great Prince Smolensk, Litovsk, Volyn, Podolsk and Finland; Prince of Estonia, Livonian, Kurland and Semigalsky, Samogitsky, Bulostoksky, Korelsky, Tversky, Yugorsk, Perm, Vyatsky, Bulgarian and others; The Sovereign and Grand Prince of Novgorod in the lower lands, Chernigov, Ryazansk, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslavsk, Bulozersk, Udorsk, Obdory, Vitebsk and Imen lands and all the lands of the country Cherkassky and Gorsky princes and other heirs to the Sovereign and Possessor; Sovereign of Turkestan, Naslednik Norwegian, Herzog Schleswig-Holstinsky, Stormarn, Ditmarsensky and Oldenburgsky and the other, and the other, and the other "
          1. +1
            11 May 2020 05: 01
            It is clear that there were no kings in them. It's just that the documents often spell out who issued it. For example, in my passport I have that it was issued by the Federal Migration Service in the Krasnoyarsk Territory. Which does not make him non-Russian. The place is indicated as its territorial affiliation and credentials. Like mine for example. Yes, and probably it makes no sense to break a spear. That despite the fact that in Poland and Finland there were Russian passports. This does not mean that these kingdoms did not exist even nominally. And that Russians lived there, and not Finns, Poles, etc.
  3. +7
    10 May 2020 18: 48
    It lies in the fact that the authorities of the European Union “discovered” a Croat in Nicole Tesla.

    Does anyone still hope that the owners of their slaves will sort?
  4. +4
    10 May 2020 19: 05
    nonsense .. everyone knows that he is Ukrainian ... like all geniuses .....
  5. +6
    10 May 2020 19: 11
    Quote: Pvi1206
    nonsense .. everyone knows that he is Ukrainian ... like all geniuses .....

    Not all ... Kirkorov is Romanian, though sugary ...
    1. +4
      10 May 2020 19: 22
      Kirkorov is actually a Bulgarian .. I apologize, an Armenian from Bulgaria with gypsy roots
      1. +6
        10 May 2020 19: 36
        What's the difference laughing
      2. +8
        10 May 2020 19: 50
        Kirkorov is actually a Bulgarian .. I apologize, an Armenian from Bulgaria with gypsy roots


        Pffffff, relieved. Already the hand was on the red button ... it's casus belli if that ... lol
        Let the Armenians take shame for Kirkorov ....
        1. +1
          10 May 2020 20: 26
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          Let the Armenians take shame for Kirkorov ....

          Do they need it? laughing
        2. +1
          10 May 2020 22: 08
          And how is your original singer Mrazish doing?)
          1. +1
            11 May 2020 09: 04
            Gee, theirs, singers / singers with their mouths, here before ... in general, enough, Euroconchits beckon laurels ... smile
    2. 0
      10 May 2020 19: 43
      Quote: faterdom
      Kirkorov is Romanian

      in what sense?!!!! belay
      1. +2
        10 May 2020 19: 58
        Well, it’s obvious: in the best sense of the word!)
        1. +1
          10 May 2020 23: 01
          Quote: BMP-2
          in the best sense of the word!)

          and how is that? !!
          sparkles, sparkles, sparkles?
          feathers, feathers, feathers?
          1. +2
            11 May 2020 00: 54
            As they say, "Romanians are not a nationality, they are a way of life!" :))
    3. 0
      10 May 2020 20: 57
      Kirkorov is a descendant of Armenians.
      1. Fat
        +2
        11 May 2020 08: 07
        Quote: Pavel57
        Kirkorov is a descendant of Armenians.

        Aznavour and Cher too ... Sometimes the difference is very noticeable laughing
        1. 0
          12 May 2020 17: 44
          And Kardashian, which is Kim)))
  6. +3
    10 May 2020 19: 33
    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: Atlant-1164
    strange .. why not an Albanian ??) but only croatian?

    these are also "ours". Yes

    I think that the correction made:
    “Nikola Tesla, born in Croatia ...
    -not quite correctly, officially he was born in Austria-Hungary

    It all started back in 1856, in the small village of Smilyany. Now it is the territory of Croatia. The future great inventor was born in a poor large family of a Serbian Orthodox priest. From childhood, the boy was distinguished by a brilliant mind and a desire to learn. As soon as Nicola learned to read, it was impossible to stop him! He simply “swallowed” the books, one after another, very often staying up even at night.
  7. -1
    10 May 2020 19: 38
    Nikola Tesla was of Slavic origin who I am also proud of
    I think that such an approach is correct which should suit everyone.
  8. +3
    10 May 2020 19: 42
    amer that Serbs that Croats that Poles with ukrami
    1. +1
      11 May 2020 00: 47
      Eastern Europe was fun quilted in the film "Eurotour"

      [media = https: //m.youtube.com/watch? v = kUiNHFsmU6M]

      For amers there is no difference - Albanians, Russians, Ukrainians, Serbs, Moldavians
  9. +1
    10 May 2020 19: 52
    was born in the Croatian town of Smiljan (at the time of 1856 - the Austrian Empire)

    Call him subjects of Austria-Hungary, and that’s all.
  10. +2
    10 May 2020 20: 04
    In the EU they see what they want to see, it fits into the course of foreign policy.
    I remember how Putin spoke with Merkel about the Donbass. As he recalled, Ukraine adopted a temporary law for 3 years on the special status of the territories. The Germans made such a surprised look, at first I also did not understand what was happening. And then everything went perfectly. And now the same lesson is being taught to the Serbs, either Serbia is in the EU and NATO, or Serbia is an enemy! Well, deal with enemies accordingly! And stealing history for Europeans is not a crime at all
  11. -5
    10 May 2020 20: 10
    Only his mother could know the nationality for sure. There must have been a lot of Jews living there, but this Tesla was not so smart.
    1. -4
      11 May 2020 00: 52
      I agree, his success is incredible for the Serb
  12. +1
    10 May 2020 20: 11
    Well, yes, there is still a butting for all sorts of celebrities, discoveries, victories .... only no one needs defeat, and big villains too.
  13. +4
    10 May 2020 20: 18
    In their opinion, a decent person cannot be born in Serbia and be Orthodox. Horvath is his own, he is a Catholic; Muslim - wherever it goes, but Orthodox ... you still call him a Russian and a member of the CPSU. laughing They spent how many years to destroy Yugoslavia and ruin Serbia, and now it turns out that one of the most talented people is the Serb. No way, ay-yay! So it starts: at least in the little things, but spoil.
  14. -2
    10 May 2020 20: 55
    Nikola Tesla American.
  15. +4
    10 May 2020 21: 39
    Ethnic Serb, subject to Austrian and Hungarian crowns, US citizen ...
  16. +2
    10 May 2020 22: 04
    Hmmm ... And the Croats, flattered, flattered, modestly lowered their eyes and said nothing. Who will refuse a moment of glory? However, we Slavs, for Western Europeans all on one face. And only Russian in their view is a small, bent-legged, hairy brunette.
  17. 0
    10 May 2020 22: 42
    Nikola Tesla - Austro-Hungarian.
    1. 0
      11 May 2020 10: 35
      In Austria-Hungary itself, people by ethnicity were also indicated by citizenship, Austrian or Hungarian.
  18. 0
    11 May 2020 01: 49
    Ilyich’s bulb, light up! laughing
  19. -4
    11 May 2020 04: 31
    It’s familiar. Hold on to the past if there is no present, and the future is foggy and scary. Tesla was called a Croat. Deafening slap in the face of Serbia.
  20. +1
    11 May 2020 07: 45
    Serbs and Croats are actually one people (they speak the same Serbo-Croatian language, they have similar cultures). They differ in religion and writing - Orthodox Serbs (Cyrillic), Croatian Catholics (Latin). In this sense, Nikola Tesla is an ethnic Serb.

    The ancestors of the Serbs and Croats are sorbians who lived on the territory of present-day East Germany before its conquest by the Franks. Starting from the 5th century, the Sorbians began to migrate south, as a result, conquering the Byzantine provinces of Illyria (future Yugoslavia) and Pannonia (future Hungary). Western Sorbians adopted Catholicism from Rome, Eastern Sorbians - Orthodoxy from Byzantium.

    And so as not to get up twice: Bosnians are indigenous Illyrians assimilated by the Sorbians.
    1. 0
      11 May 2020 10: 38
      I read that Bosnians and Muslims have a more Slavic appearance than Serbs and Croats.
      1. 0
        11 May 2020 12: 34
        For Bosnians, 75% are carriers of the Illyrian haplogroup I2, the rest are carriers of the Aryan haplogroup R1a. Serbs and Croats - 50 to 50 each.
  21. 0
    11 May 2020 08: 33
    some are stealing Victory, others are the bastards of scientists.
    1. +2
      11 May 2020 10: 39
      some are stealing Victory, others are the bastards of scientists.

      Shhh. These are the same bastards.
  22. +1
    11 May 2020 09: 23
    Nikola Tesla, in his memoirs, writes several times about Stalin, and writes with great respect: “An incredible number of difficulties faced the Soviet Union, but the country overcomes them. The Russians are lucky - they have socialism and Stalin. Happy is the people who have a wise leader. I envy the Russians and sympathize with my compatriots who are ruled by three random people [Pavel Karageorgievich, Ivo Petrovich, Radenko Stankovich]. Only under the guidance of a wise and strong ruler can a people do great things. In the Soviet Union, no matter what, it’s a great achievement. ”

    “A wise leader, a strong ruler” - not a single politician except Stalin receives such an assessment even close in Tesla’s memoirs. Tesla wrote letters to Stalin and Tesla wanted to meet with Stalin:

    “I really want Stalin to come to the United States. I really want to see him, but I myself do not dare to go on such a distant journey - despite all my efforts, my health is getting worse and worse. "
    1. +1
      12 May 2020 17: 49
      This is all the lyrics. Practice is different - according to legend (I don’t know whether it’s fictitious or not) Tesla proposed some kind of military invention of the USSR. But something did not grow together.
  23. 0
    11 May 2020 10: 38
    Yolas are fallen, how many years from Western propaganda I know that he was a Croat. It always caused me internal questions, but I never checked it. And now everything fell into place.
  24. 0
    11 May 2020 12: 07
    Croats why lying? MYA'S FAMILY FROM !!! ALL THERE IN FACES (MILITARY KRAINA) WERE BORDERS OF ORTHODOX SERBES AS A TESLIN FAMILY, THERE HAVE BEEN CROATS UNTIL THE CATHOLIC ARRIVAL OF THE HUBSBURGS IN THE 18 AND 19 CENTURIES WHEN THE PEOPLE BEFORE OPENING!
    BECAUSE THE NAZI POWER OF KHOVATIA MADE IN THE WWII THE GENOCIDE OF THE SERBIAN PEOPLE IN THE TERRITORY OF THE WAR KRAINE, BETWEEN THE OTHER WAS DIED AND THE WHOLE FAMILY NIKOLA TESLE !!!
    DOES YOU HAVE STEED ???
  25. -1
    11 May 2020 12: 11
    Croat,


    Why are you lying so shamelessly ???
    Boroevich was also ORTHODOXES OF SERB, ON THIS WAS ON THE ALPS FRONT WHERE ITALIANS BURED !!! SUCCESSFUL GENERAL AUSTRO HUNGARIANS! ALREADY 1917. He WANTED TO JOIN THE SERBIAN ARMY, EST AND REGISTRATION !!!
  26. -1
    11 May 2020 12: 24
    I will explain a little history of WAR KRAINE (SERBIAN KRAINE)
    She was in the territory of Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia and Northern Serbia today!
    1459 when the Turks destroyed the last Serbian state of Brankovic, the Serbian people massively began to settle in their trap and north of the territory where their Turks could not destroy! THEY WERE FREE !!! Following the unsuccessful capture of Vienna by the Turks, the Austrians decided to create a Tampon zone between the Turks and the Catholic West. This tampon zone was named MILITARY KRAINA AND WEIGHT THE PEOPLE THERE WERE ORTHODOX OF SERBI, BORDERS OF THE FIGHT !!! Specifically in FACES from where NIKOLA TESLA the majority of the people from Hercegovynia! MILITARY EDGE NEVER BEFORE 18, 19 CENTURY HAS ANY CROAT !!! ;)
  27. 0
    11 May 2020 18: 14
    He himself said that he was of the Serbian family.
  28. -1
    11 May 2020 18: 17
    So much about the nations in the last ... how is it, we are on the verge of a grand schucher lol
  29. 0
    11 May 2020 18: 42
    Well that's it, casus belli laughing
  30. 0
    11 May 2020 18: 43
    Saakashvili was born in the Georgian SSR. He had citizenship of the USSR, citizenship of Georgia, citizenship of Ukraine, then apparently an EU citizen by his wife, now again Ukrainian. Serves USA. WHO IS HE ?

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