Protests swept across Germany: dozens of arrested and detained

Yesterday and today, protests swept through the major cities of Germany. The largest number of protesters gathered in Berlin, Frankfurt, Stuttgart and Munich. What is the reason for the protest?

People have expressed their negative opinions about the many limitations associated with the coronavirus pandemic. The names of some actions in Germany are: "The country's fundamental law against the insanity of the coronavirus," "Against legal extremism," and "Refusal of freedom does not lead to security."

To disperse the protests, police squads were involved. About 30 people were arrested or detained yesterday in front of the German parliament. The reason for the detention was declared non-compliance with isolation measures during the epidemic, a violation of the orders of the federal government.

The protesters were detained in various federal states of Germany - almost throughout the country.

The German DPA information service called the protesters "adepts of conspiracy theories." It is noted that people consider restrictive measures not saving from the spread of the disease. Many protesters are convinced that the main task of the authorities is not to contain a pandemic, but to limit the rights and freedoms of citizens, to gain total control over every German citizen.

Protesters through loudspeakers announced that the number of people gathered for the protest rally exceeded 50 people (in each of the rallies). Police demanded to go home. However, the protesters did not do this, which led to the detentions.

The actions of the police provoked violent emotions from the protesters. At one point, the journalists from the ARD television channel, who were reporting on what was happening, got seriously.

Comments

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

A ghost wanders through Europe ...

[4ekist]

Well, let yourself roam ...... in Europe.

[Victor_B]

How not democratic!
But fast, convenient and practical!
This is not for you the evil Putin National Guard, who politely, in their arms drag creaks into the wagon, even they have no right to give in the face.
Democratic police, God forbid you blather against or, God forbid, put up resistance - they will kill you in the blood and the court will issue a prize of several thousand euros the next day.

[forest1]

In the face, maybe not. But with a club on the legs and torso and women in the stomach, you can still

[Lopatov]

Quote: forest1

In the face, maybe not. But with a club on the legs and torso and women in the stomach, you can still

How undemocratic ....
There are rubber bullets, tear gas, water cannons, LRADs ...
Where do human rights activists look ????

[AndreyS]

Quote: forest1

In the face, maybe not. But with a club on the legs and torso and women in the stomach, you can still
Response

Well, yes ... And there is nothing that on the backs written "carabinieros" ?????

[forest1]

Where have you seen the carabinieri? There is a full 7 minute video on YouTube. Where everything is quite clearly visible.
Carabinieri is by the way the Italians, spelled Carabinieri. and there are no carabinieros in the Spanish manner.

[AndreyS]

Quote: forest1

Where have you seen the carabinieri? There is a full 7 minute video on YouTube. Where everything is quite clearly visible.
Carabinieri is by the way the Italians, spelled Carabinieri. and there are no carabinieros in the Spanish manner.

Where did you see the Rosguard? At the beginning of the video, one of the comrades can clearly see the chevron which the Russian Guard does not have from the word at all, since on the FSVNG chevrons there is an eagle with folded wings. And besides, I did not find any video for seven minutes as you wrote there is only this
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Here is the Chevron of the Russian Guard

[forest1]

see the full movie probably questions will disappear

[AndreyS]

Quote: forest1

see the full movie probably questions will disappear

Well, then everything is clear. Now I don’t even know how to interpret what you posted for the first time. It says that the National Guard, in this video, that the police. Are you a provocateur? Or a hater of a structure like the Russian Guard? Or the creator of a fake about the Rosguard? Where is the truth dear? I did not see in this video

Quote: forest1

But with a club on the legs and torso and women in the stomach, you can still

That is, you deliberately blame the police (or rather in the first post of the Russian Guard) for what they did not commit? And all the more deliberately mislead people on VO? If I remember correctly, this is called a slander in the language of lawyers. Don't you think so?

[forest1]

I have never even mentioned the word guard. And you managed to find even non-existing carabinieros on the video.

[AndreyS]

Quote: forest1

I have never even mentioned the word guard.

You respected video posted this

And where did I see the Russian Guard?
Oh, it turns out the video is so signed .... Well, it is necessary.

[forest1]

Without insignia, this is the Russian Guard. A lot of already boiling was on the net that they began to go out to rallies completely without identifying marks. The police are all with chivrons.

[AndreyS]

Quote: forest1

Without the insignia, it is the Russian Guard. A lot of already boiling was on the net that they began to go out to rallies completely without identifying marks. The police are all with chivrons.

Do not invent, do not need to do this. Take a look at the uniform of employees without chevrons and everything will be clear. She that at those who in chevrons, that without - the same. Rosguard does not wear such a uniform. Yes, however, this is not important because women are in the stomach, this is a sweeping accusation personally from you, there are no such actions in the video. Moreover, no violations are visible in the actions of the police, from the word at all.

[forest1]

What a dark person you are. What you have not seen immediately deny. See since Google did not learn

[AndreyS]

Quote: forest1

What a dark person you are. What you have not seen immediately deny. See since Google did not learn

Well, you yourself look. Again a mistake, not employees of the Russian Guard. Again the police. And again the slap on your part. Then I agree with you hit the woman in the stomach (you wrote with a stick,

Quote: forest1

Rђ RІRѕS, with a club on the legs and torso and women in the stomach is still possible

did not beat with a stick). III ....
"...Section 20. Use of Physical Force
1. A police officer has the right, personally or as part of a unit (group), to use physical force, including combat fighting methods, if non-violent methods do not ensure the fulfillment of the duties assigned to the police, in the following cases: 1) for the suppression of crimes and administrative offenses; 2) for the delivery to the office of a territorial body or police unit, to the premises of a municipal authority, to another office of persons who have committed crimes and administrative offenses, and the detention of these persons; 3) to overcome opposition to the legal requirements of a police officer.
Source: http: //zakonopolitsii.ru/glava-5/statya-20 ... "

[Spektr]

And this is what the German police do.

[forest1]

And here you can see the reasons why this happens

[LeonidL]

Well, the Russian man in the street is happy to kick the siloviki once again ... then it happened that the first one would shout "Save! Police! National Guard! Help!" Features of the national character.

[Deck]

"Save! Role! National Guard! Help!"

Not a single normal, sane citizen will do that. Because he knows - they won’t help at least how much they’ll wind up to the last thread or even sew the case. Another thing here on the forum. This phrase is written either by the cops (in the broad sense of the word) or by people on the corresponding salary. It is visible to them with the naked eye. From the first phrases.

[Ermak]

That is, if, for example, you were cheated into an impudent seller, and you complained about it, then you are an ordinary person who wants to kick the sellers! Tomorrow, you will come back to their stores and want to buy a product! Such are your "peculiarities of national character" ... The work of various bodies, like the work of all other citizens, must be carried out in accordance with the Law! Moreover, the use of physical force and special. funds!

[Spektr]

And where is the video of the reason for the detention?
It can be seen that the action of detention itself was planned, and the production was cheap.
And where is the video, how do they deal with the same in the West?

[forest1]

Everything is filmed in the Hollywood pavilions, yes yes.

[Spektr]

Everything is very "ostentatious" and work on camera to report to a Western employer. Cheap heroism, knowing that the maximum will be taken to the jail. And the man lying down at the age generally smiles and gives instructions.
The question for the liberda is corrupt and cheap, but because of what is the detention (the others are not touched)?

[2 Level Advisor]

Alexander, I have a question for you .. If I went, for example, to a rally against raising the retirement age and I was dispersed, did I become a "liberda"?

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

to a rally against raising the retirement age and I was dispersed, I became a "liberda"

And it depends on who paid for the organization of the rally. If you are from your own food - a liberal, freedom-loving person. If the State Department-you are a liberoid.
By the way, Navalny calls his supporters "demoshizoy". And the supporters love it. After all, it gives 100 rubles.

[2 Level Advisor]

uh ... but what - is it necessary to pay someone? in our area recently a rally against the development of the park was going to, no one was paying me, and they weren’t paying anyone .. Or do you think the meeting can only be held for grandmas?

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Nobody paid me for sure

He painted the posters? Did you go to the rally at your own expense? So a true liberal.
And if 100 rubles for an exit, and even promise 10 thousand euros after the arrest, by decision of the ECHR, then - a hamster.
By the way, protesters at Bolotnaya later gathered for another rally - demanding money from Navalny.

[2 Level Advisor]

There were no posters, I walked on 200m, we didn’t feed cookies and other products .. But, if the rally is arranged by the Communist Party, are they also liberals? Or communist liberals? I just didn’t know that any protester is a synonym for the word liberal .. Moreover, I don’t like that they call me a liberal, I’m rather a social monarchist ..
and if the rally is against the adoption of the law, so when considering the issue based on the meaning of the words, it will be correct that those who want not to change the conservative law, and who want to change the new law, are liberals ..
I guess that it’s probably your slang - liberda, etc., but it is legally illiterate and based on the Russian language .. Liberda sounds the same as: Chill, bring, ya krivedgo, padik .. liberda ... achivka .. gloomy .. bomb .. bookmark, etc.
However, I'm not a teacher, say whatever you want, but when communicating outside your social group, it is better to use generally accepted words, rather than slang, if you want to be well understood ..

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

"Libertas" is Latin for freedom. She came to us from French-English, so the ending was lost. Liberal is free. Both a monarchist and a communist can be a liberal. If he does not dictate to others how to live. As soon as he begins to explain to someone, he ceases to be a liberal, but becomes an adept.

[2 Level Advisor]

Well, with such an interpretation of the word liberal, to argue - I will not of course

[CSKA]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Alexander, I have a question for you .. If I went, for example, to a rally against raising the retirement age and I was dispersed, did I become a "liberda"?

If it is allowed to rally, and if it is unauthorized, then the police or the Russian Guard have the right to disperse it. And in this case, unlike Germany or France, rubber bullets and tear gas are not used.

[2 Level Advisor]

I understand your logic .. The law is a law, and must be respected even if the Government of the Russian Federation decides to abolish pensions altogether or declare that instead of the Russian Federation the community of independent states?

By the way, for example, we have a procedure for the appointment of days off with the preservation of salaries - this is done by the Government of the Russian Federation and not earlier than 2 months before they occur. Accordingly, the decree on the President, the weekend and the cove, contradicts Article 112 of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, and the labor code has the highest power with respect to the Decree of the President. Why can someone break the law, but someone can’t .. Don’t tell me, is he the LAW?

And speaking of a rally in our area, which was unauthorized by the way, if they started to coordinate and approve it, if they had allowed it, part of the park would have already been cut down to love .. And so the trees are growing and the authorities are already checking who issued the permit for illegal construction ..

[CSKA]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

I understand your logic .. Law is law, and must be respected

Exactly and no other way.

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

even if the Government of the Russian Federation decides to abolish pensions altogether or declare that instead of the Russian Federation the community of independent states?

And this is already a violation of the constitution, and then not only do we have the right to withdraw, but law enforcement agencies have the right not to obey. But here only in extremes it is not necessary to throw. No one will pass such laws.

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

By the way, for example, we have a procedure for the appointment of days off with the preservation of salaries - this is done by the Government of the Russian Federation and not earlier than 2 months before they occur. Accordingly, the decree on the President, the weekend and the cove, contradicts Article 112 of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, and the labor code has the highest power with respect to the Decree of the President. Why can someone break the law, but someone can’t .. Don’t tell me, is he the LAW?

What is the contradiction?

[2 Level Advisor]

in that it is the authority and duty of the Government of the Russian Federation and should be regulated by its normative legal act-Decree .. under which LAW, specifically in this case, article 112 of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation .. I repeat - Russian codes have greater legal force than decrees of the President and so far the code is not changed, everything, and the President, too, must do as it is written there .. it is written - the Government of the Russian Federation .. another way - does not comply with the Law ..

And you agree that under the unconstitutional laws, there is a right to go out .. I wrote about this exactly ..

[CSKA]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

And you agree that under the unconstitutional laws, there is a right to go out .. I wrote about this exactly ..

Yes, if it is unconstitutional. In particular, for this, an amendment to the constitution must be made about not even the possibility of considering the return of the territory.

[4ekist]

You must have been there too? is your back still sore?

[Zaits]

Quote: forest1

see the full movie probably questions will disappear

Well, yes, now everything is really clear. Dudes begged for lyuli almost 5 minutes. True, they worked for the camera, and therefore for so long.

But for disobeying the lawful demand of a police officer and attempting physical resistance in a more democratic country would have flown in at the moment. Regardless of the cameras.

[4ekist]

Not true. When preventing illegal actions, you can not use special equipment (rubber stick) on the head, neck, collarbone, chest, kidneys and groin. Exception of use: children, pregnant women and people with disabilities. In the event of an explicit attack on such employees, with a threat to their lives, it is also possible.

[stalki]

I never really saw a single blow to a man, everything was somehow behind the camera, and where is the woman?

[Victor_B]

Necessary!
If Navalny and Sobol were each time received in the face and the fine increases each time, then they would quickly get tired of running UNAUTHORIZED rallies.

[Oyo Sarkazmi]

Quote: Victor_B

If Navalny and Sobol were each time received in the face and the fine increases each time, then they would quickly get tired of running UNAUTHORIZED rallies.

And live on what? There is no Kirovles, only handouts from overseas. And nobody writes in the commercials - the rally was paid for from the US budget. And they must. Navalny has already been punished 4 times for fifty and hundreds of thousands for failure to indicate - "foreign agent". If you get money from abroad - shine, don't be shy.

[Proton]

Well this is you do not understand, this is different

[Olgovich]

Quote: Proton

Well this is you do not understand, this is different

detainees put in one cell, once they consider everything fake.

here they prove ...

[Revival]

Yes, they beat women in the stomach, they saw

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Victor_B

How not democratic!
But fast, convenient and practical!
This is not for you the evil Putin National Guard, who politely, in their arms drag creaks into the wagon, even they have no right to give in the face.
Democratic police, God forbid you blather against or, God forbid, put up resistance - they will kill you in the blood and the court will issue a prize of several thousand euros the next day.

You, yb have never seen videos, how will the National Guard disperse rallies ??? !!!

[Victor_B]

Quote: Corona without virus

You, yb have never seen videos, how will the National Guard disperse rallies ??? !!!

Saw.
I think that we should take our example from the best democracies in the world.
And to get sick from the heart.
And so that fines during repeated detentions doubled exponentially.

[2 Level Advisor]

And even better - to the prison of all those who disagree with the party line? Are they all agents of the State Department, just do not support the policy of sensitive leadership? aaa .. let them go to the polls (in a few years) since they don’t like what the authorities are doing, because the authorities are indulged by indignation, since they chose it before the next election, so that it doesn’t decide?

[Victor_B]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

And even better - to the prison of all those who disagree with the party line?

"Only mass executions will help .."
But seriously:
What do you dislike about the police experience in leading democracies?
Why can't an American policeman touch a finger?
That, in the USA "democratizers" and rubber bullets are not used?
Have you ever held such a rubber bullet in your hands? After all, it is rubber only at one end, but actually steel and its weight is oh-hoo.

[2 Level Advisor]

In the United States, I understand the police, there the firearm is allowed among the population .. this explains everything and is justified in this case .. but it’s impossible to touch the policeman in any country according to the law .. but as a matter of fact my questions have something to answer? or the elections have passed - there is no right to be indignant at anything and no one and never - so as not to happen? By the way, there would not have been a revolution both in 1917 and the USSR - whose flag is on your avatar ..

[Victor_B]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

By the way, there would not have been a revolution both in 1917 and the USSR - whose flag is on your avatar ..

The revolution (which was eventually called the October Coup), for example, called the coup in Ukraine.
And the Chinese shot their "revolutionaries" in Tiananmin Square and did the right thing.
If Yeltsin and the company were destroyed in 91, we would have lived in a different country and certainly not worse.

[2 Level Advisor]

How do you not want to answer questions that are uncomfortable .. But, I think, in your head you still understand the essence .. And in fact, you just don’t want any changes at all, because everything suits you personally, and suddenly it will be worse ..
I do not think that a direct revolution is needed .. but the people should be able to show the authorities that they are stuck .. Otherwise, they will believe in their permissiveness, but this will ultimately lead to "worse" for sure .. the authorities should be afraid of the people when decision-making, the power serves the people, and not vice versa .. And the Chinese had a revolution just when the Communist Party came .. Yes, and Yeltsin's only popular indignation could only have stopped, but they were just dispersed, it turns out according to your correct ..

[Victor_B]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Yes, and Yeltsin just people’s indignation could only stop, but they just dispersed it turns out your way correctly ..

There were no mass actions against Yeltsin. There was no one to disperse.
Our kreakly, under the leadership of Navalny and with Khodorkovsky's money, abundantly let in hydrogen hydrogen and do not act against the authorities. They are at war with the "bloody Puten".
It is possible without straining to see the beginning of the Moscow Maidan in the swamp, if the authorities were merciful.
And today, normal citizens have a password - "Crimea is ours?", A response - "Ours!"
What is your review?
(With a gentle squint)
Are you my friend, by any chance, not a crack?

[2 Level Advisor]

Again, leave the answers .. My review: Russia, where people are happy to live with confidence that in 20 years everything will be fine with their children and their retired ..
And what about Crimea in general? I live in another region ..

[Victor_B]

Quote: 2 level advisor

Again, leave the answers .. My review: Russia, where people are happy to live with confidence that in 20 years everything will be fine with their children and their retired ..
And what about Crimea in general? I live in another region ..

I generally live in Canada, so is our Crimea or yours?

[2 Level Advisor]

What does ours or yours mean? Canadian or Russian, or what? And by the way, just this question is beloved by Svidomo, they constantly ask him everything, such as checking, but what did you remember him? * suspiciously *

[Virus-free crown]

Quote: Victor_B

...
And today, normal citizens have a password - "Crimea is ours?", A response - "Ours!"
What is your review?
(With a gentle squint)
...

The correct answer is "Crimea is NOT ours yet" - because it is violated there

Article 4 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation

1. The sovereignty of the Russian Federation extends over its entire territory.

2. The Constitution of the Russian Federation and federal laws are supremacy throughout the territory of the Russian Federation.

3. The Russian Federation ensures the integrity and inviolability of its territory.

That's as soon as I can use all my rights there as a citizen of the Russian Federation - then he will become ours))

[Deck]

What do you dislike about the police experience in leading democracies?
Why can't an American policeman touch a finger?
That, in the USA "democratizers" and rubber bullets are not used

Long lay back from an American prison? How many walker? I look at you with a wealth of experience in dealing with cops. American police rubber bullets, by the way, where were they held in their hands? Was it taken out of the loin? Or just a turn on accelerated courses?

[LeonidL]

Andrey, in a modern glass house you should not throw stones. And then you can accidentally wander. Better not wander anywhere.

[Lopatov]

Quote: LeonidL

a modern glass house is not worth throwing stones. And then you can accidentally wander.

The authorities of European countries will now be in the know.

For so long and so hysterically they have been screaming about the absolute prerogative of personal freedoms over the interests of society ... in other countries, of course, ...

[Prahlad]

And then he will come to Russia. Hurry to wait.

[Lopatov]

You may have been waiting there, but we in Russia do not need this mold.

[4ekist]

Are you an active participant in the gay movement or a vicious anarchist?

[Normal ok]

Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich

A ghost wanders through Europe ...

A ghost has been wandering around Europe for 200 years, but here it materializes exclusively in Russia

[Valery Valery]

Dukes everywhere enough ..

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

I agree completely, especially some Czechs, again mocked at the pedestal on which stood a monument to Marshal Konev.

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: Valery Valery

Dukes everywhere enough ..

Well, why ... people are just tired.
I've also entered into a sect) denying a pandemic.
The meaning there is: - if the state lays on you, you can in turn put on this state and not fulfill its requirements.
If the government believes that it can drive people through holes for several months and not even lift a finger to help them somehow ...... They probably think that the products in the store are distributed free of charge, or that children can be fed with bark from trees ? I do not know what is in the minds of our rulers ....
If it is .. "checkmate" .. the government did not even lift a finger to .. "checkmate" loans and utility bills for a couple of months at least slow down! I'm not even talking about how to compensate .... These ... "checkmate" .. even from transactions from cards, they did not deign to remove interest for the period of isolation .... They imposed .. "checkmate" ... fines, here and all the help from a loved one .. "checkmate" .. state. How many people have already been fired ... just darkness ... And how many promise to be fired after this .. "checkmate" ... Salary .. "checkmate" .. 5 - 7 tr. already considered .. "checkmate" ... good ... And this is just what I encountered .. "checkmate" ... personally ....

[Virus-free crown]

"Gold words!!!" (from)

[Rakovor]

What is there to "slow down a communal apartment". They continue to accrue interest after only ONE day of delay. What are you talking about?

[Altona]

Quote: Ramzaj99

I've also entered into a sect) denying a pandemic.

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On the street +25 degrees and the sea of ​​solar ultraviolet radiation, which is harmful to any viruses. Nevertheless, the game of covid continues.

[Kosta153]

In the video, some Aryans)))

[Piramidon]

Just slightly tanned and squinted.

[Motorist]

In the screenshot in the article - some come in large numbers (take a look). Which part of Berlin is this?

[Piramidon]

I suspect that all those "democrats" who were sausage here, on the next branch, with the article "Rosgvardia ordered the delivery of Kalashnikov assault rifles of the 200 series" will not notice the actions of the German police.

[major147]

Quote: Piramidon

I suspect that all those "democrats" who were sausage here, on the next branch, with the article "Rosgvardia ordered the delivery of Kalashnikov assault rifles of the 200 series" will not notice the actions of the German police.

It is in Russia that "Putin's regime is oppressing the people," and there, with every blow of the "democratic" stick, "democracy is only getting stronger." Something like this!

[Lord of the Sith]

Now the Sumerians and liberals will run up to the news, they say you see how in "free Europe" they protest, but in Russia they just sit, completely irresponsible))

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Now the Sumerians and liberals will run up to the news, they say you see how in "free Europe" they protest, but in Russia they just sit, completely irresponsible))

And who do you relate yourself to, Sumerians or liberals?

[Victor_B]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

And who do you relate yourself to, Sumerians or liberals?

But what if he is smart and handsome right away?
Where to go?

[Lord of the Sith]

Certainly not to those, neither to others, nor to wise men, with dubious humor, imagining himself an airship))

[Andrea]

And where is Russia, where is Russia? If the conspiracy, then without Russia in any way! A disciplined German cannot think of such a thing on his own!

[nikolaj1703]

With the filing of Russia-no other way!

[major147]

Quote: nikolaj1703

With the filing of Russia-no other way!

Probably seen enough on RT as we have mothers with strollers walking. Deny RT

[A. Privalov]

If you open the video on youtube, you can see the postscript:
"* Bei Bildern und Videos handelt es sich um symbolischen Content!" - "Images and videos have symbolic content!" So, they say something there, but they can show something else.
This is irrespective of the protests themselves.

[LeonidL]

"Many protesters are confident that the main task of the authorities is not to contain the pandemic, but to restrict the rights and freedoms of citizens, to gain total control over every citizen of Germany." - The absurdity of this is obvious, since the overwhelming majority of countries in the world, completely different in ideology and culture, have introduced exactly strict quarantine measures. And where they are carried out and conducted in an organized and tough manner (China and Vietnam), the virus was relatively quickly defeated there. where they are late - great human losses. Germany stayed among the least affected precisely because of its organization and discipline, now we should expect a sharp deterioration. The heterogeneity of countries, but the homogeneity of quarantine measures, proves the lack of desire to "gain total control", but demonstrates a unified medical approach to solving a terrible problem. Alas, so far quarantine, self-isolation and self-discipline are the only control measures. There are no medicines, no vaccines, no magic wand yet in the arsenal of doctors.

[demo]

The heterogeneity of countries, but the homogeneity of quarantine measures, proves the lack of desire to "gain total control", but demonstrates a unified medical approach to solving a terrible problem.

Okay.
I will ask a simple question.
There are small arms in the world. We will call conditionally - pistols.
They are in China, in the USA, in Russia, in all countries of Africa and even Oceania.
It is successfully used in all necessary and not necessary situations.
Do you think it is normal that weapons invented and used in one country have been successfully used in another, despite ideological contradictions.
It seems to me that the difference between countries in the field of ideologies does not impose any restriction on the fact that the authorities understand how to use this or that phenomenon in their favor.
The desire of the PRC to strengthen control over a billion of its inhabitants is no different from the desire of the authorities of Russia or Germany to achieve the same.

[LeonidL]

First, I believe that you are wrong in a purely mechanical approach to the problem. I don’t think that the simplest, lying on the surface is the most true. Second. Where did you get the idea from which conspiracy theory such "The PRC's desire to strengthen control over a billion of its inhabitants does not differ in any way from the desire of the Russian or German authorities to achieve the same." Well, why, excuse me for God's sake, does the government control every Vasya Pupkin in the Russian Federation, VaPup Kin in the PRC, Van Der Pup in the FRG? Yes, Vasya is pleased to be aware of his own significance in this way, but, alas, the real significance for "control" is zero. Check out WikiLeaks - intelligence agencies are trying to control significant people. For example, Merkel's correspondence and phones were controlled. Control over large companies is interesting - Petrobras was controlled, "Aeroflot, Gazprom, etc. tried, Iranian nuclear programs, etc., etc. Control of the mass of ordinary people will only cause absolutely unrealistic overloads of the capacities of even supercomputers, and they have and so full of very important tasks. So the layman, whether in the PRC, in the Russian Federation, or in the Federal Republic of Germany, can calmly fall asleep ... if he does not violate traffic rules and does not commit criminal offenses. There is a lot of control through surveillance cameras. all the rest of Vasya Pupkin is simply indifferent to the authorities.

[demo]

Where did you get the idea from which conspiracy theory such "The PRC's desire to strengthen control over a billion of its inhabitants does not differ in any way from the desire of the Russian or German authorities to achieve the same."
There is no such theory yet.
There are facts.
In China, a face recognition system operates.
And in the People's Republic of China they are not complex about the overload of computer capacities.
In the Russian Federation, laws have been enacted that require storing information on subscriber calls on the servers of mobile operators for six months.
"On July 1, 2018, an amendment entered into force, according to which" telecom operators and organizers of the dissemination of information on the Internet "are obliged to store on the territory of the Russian Federation text messages of users of communication services, voice information, images, sounds, video, or other messages (electronic messages ) users of communication services (Internet) up to 6 months from the end of their reception, transmission, delivery and (or) processing. "
The norm was introduced by the Federal Law of 06.07.2016 No. 374-ФЗ.

Specific storage rules with the definition of the terms, order and storage volumes have already been determined by Government Decree No. 12.04.2018 dated 445. "
Isn't that control over thoughts and statements, as well as mindsets?
Is that not an aspiration?
Then what is it?

And if you think about the fact that billing information is also stored, you can quickly draw your portrait - where, when, with whom, for how long, etc.

Security cameras - "Safe city" - what is it, no matter how control over citizens?
Credit card settlement is not personal information about your preferences and desires (God forbid secret !!!!!!)?
Toll road payment systems - what's this?
Registration of travel documents only with a passport. What's this?
Internet access from your computer instantly settles on the servers of providers.

And by the way, none of those "accounting points" are located in the Russian Federation.
Many have external servers.
And there are also very sophisticated control methods.
But you should not write about them.

So Vasya Pupkin, who lives somewhere in the Igarka districts, can and will sleep peacefully.
For there is a connection, so far, not so hot, and there are problems with the Internet.
And the number of persons is not so great. It is enough that the district police officer could cover everyone with his attention.
But in the rest, more densely populated by Russia, control is already present. Almost total

[Doliva63]

"In all other respects, Vasya Pupkin is simply indifferent to the authorities." Here you have correctly noticed!

[Piramidon]

Quote: demo

The desire of the PRC to strengthen control over a billion of its inhabitants is no different from the desire of the authorities of Russia or Germany to achieve the same.

Why fence a garden with some kind of chips? Now almost everyone carries phones with which to track its owner.

[evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru]

Chip in America, for example, from the last century, dear Piramidon. Perhaps hundreds of thousands of microchips. Perhaps the bill is already in the millions. At American airports, they have long had their own, corridors, of control. Type - ,, simplified ,,. ,, Convenient, profitable, etc.
Chips are improved, their sizes are reduced, their functions are increased. You should know that you can deliver it NOW through a regular medical needle. Under the guise of, for example, a kind of superfood useful vaccination.
The dream of “world behind the scenes” is a chip capable of FORCING to do the right thing, to the masters of the world. In case of disobedience - ,, disconnection ,, of the obstinate chip bearer, death. All this is done NOW., Here and Now ,, on planet Earth, and not in a fantastic blockbuster about the planet Mars.
Normal nonhumans are building a “normal” megacenter for people. In the first, is it possible to build concentration camps?
Phone? Which telephone? Why do you need a phone in the phone? Who will allow you to use them uncontrollably? The administration will be against freedom of information transfer.
Have you ever tried to count the Auschwitz barracks （?） On those famous motion pictures ..? Filming from a low-flying airplane, 1945 ... ,, Death Factory ,,. Enlightened Europe. Playing the violins ... EVERYTHING HAS ALREADY BEEN. And they made soap, and stuffed mattresses with hair, and they let the skin on handbags and lampshades, and put the golden crowns of the people who were killed by Pounds into Swiss cans. To save. In ordinary bank cells.
Is modern, ordinary nonhumans ,, （,, globalists ,,,, Satanists ,,,, Freemasons ,,, ,, reptilians ,,, ,, world financial elite ,,,, black aristocracy, etc. ） Became very, very ,, white and fluffy ,, in the XNUMXst century? And do not already need pokatushki in public? And do not want them ,, use ,,? And they wanted, and learned to earn honestly and modestly?

[qQQQ]

Quote: LeonidL

The heterogeneity of countries, but the homogeneity of quarantine measures, proves the lack of desire to "gain total control", but demonstrates a unified medical approach to solving a terrible problem.

The conclusion is far-fetched. It is possible that the leadership of the countries that have introduced quarantine measures is not even against getting total control over their citizens. It is very convenient and profitable, again, the ruling elite of almost any country.

[major147]

Quote: qqqq

total control over their citizens

Well, now it’s clear why chip the fabulously expensive Geytsev chips Vasya. To know when he will fail on rotten boards in his street toilet in the distant Zadrischensk

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: major147

To know when he will fail on rotten boards in his street toilet in the distant Zadrischensk

And what, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, ambulance and firefighters will leave right there?

[qQQQ]

Quote: major147

Well, now it’s clear why chip the fabulously expensive Geytsev chips Vasya. To know when he will fail on rotten boards in his street toilet in the distant Zadrischensk

God works in mysterious ways. Today he is Vasya from Zadrischensk, and tomorrow everyone is a respected deputy of some kind of Duma (we have a lot of them), and this is an opportunity to some extent influence the adoption of specific decisions.

[orionvitt]

Quote: qqqq

It is very convenient and profitable, again, the ruling elite of almost any country.

LeonidL, writes mostly correctly. Total control over everyone, and not only from the state, has long been established. From the moment you bought your first mobile phone and connected to the Internet for the first time, there are several databases on you that are constantly updated automatically. The most interesting thing is that the state (in this case Russia) knows much less about you than banks, retail chains, advertising companies, and it’s a sin to hide, foreign intelligence agencies. Old joke on the topic:
Birthday today. The first thing in the morning, I was congratulated - a bank, an auto parts store, a nearby supermarket, a dating site, an email server and a mobile operator. And only after dinner, all sorts of friends, relatives.

[GUSAR]

Complete nonsense. Quarantine and even more so "self-isolation" is not a measure in the fight against the virus. Belarus and Sweden. But the fact that "... now it is worth waiting for the deterioration" is quite a terror. "Stay at home, otherwise it will be worse!" Listen, somewhere in the history of mankind, and in the recent I have already seen this

[Alexy]

What about Sweden?

[Mountain shooter]

Expected. The spring begins to expand. IMHO, the "new Germans" from the refugees in these protests play an important role ... although no, all sorts of things on the video. White men are being detained. But the crowds are without masks. Probably nothing is scary already.

[Klingon]

in Germany, it is mandatory to wear masks only in stores and public transport, and of course, various facilities. on the street at personal discretion. But the right-handed and left-handed people breed the butch as usual, and the skirmishes at first between them. In big cities, such a rabble. Better to live in a small town, like ours, where it’s quiet and calm. During all this time, I saw the police two times by force. And I don’t notice any restrictions how I rode along the Black Forest on a bike and ride. One thing is good: there are no impudent Swiss in shops; TCs have closed the border. and this is a big plus. Although shopping is unprofitable

[knn54]

and where is "tolerance"?

[1536]

Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich

A ghost wanders through Europe ...

It sucks that all these "European ghosts" now and then come to Russia. Is it their tradition, perhaps, to appear in the West and disappear in the East? And here, as soon as such a Euro-ghost shelters, that's it, expect trouble. Everyone begins to believe in him, try to please and respect how many fans of the militants gather around him at once. But it ends with the fact that the ghost, along with all his retinue, is driven out under the backside by the knee, so much so that there is no trace of them, but how many human lives, destinies, and time have been ruined before. So, maybe, firstly, not to let the scoundrel across the borders, and, secondly, to expel it as soon as possible, so as not to shine? Germans, they will probably figure out what to do. All sorts of "shadows of fathers" wandering along the walls of different castles have haunted them from time immemorial. But they get along well with them.

[pv1005]

Seem democracy and European values ​​of freedom began to hiccup.

[rocket757]

Protests against ... are assessed differently, up to the option that a new political force is being born in Germany! and again, according to eyewitnesses, where the protests became widespread, the police watched in silence, because the leadership did not dare to aggravate the situation !!!
The main thing is that when the population speaks MASSY, MUCH and TOGETHER, the government does not go into trouble ...
They grabbed loners anywhere, as often happens.

[Thrifty]

So this was bound to happen! People are tired of sitting locked up! This will happen all over the world soon!

[major147]

Quote: Thrifty

So this was bound to happen! People are tired of sitting locked up! This will happen all over the world soon!

Tired of sitting locked up, they will lie locked up!

[rruvim]

Where is the law of our puppet government to arrest a person who denies the coronovirus pandemic? Not yet accepted? Holocaust denial law is! I here deny the pandemic of the Covid and the Holocaust. You will not arrest everyone !!!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: rruvim

and the holocaust

It's stupid to deny the Holocaust, it was. But the numbers of victims were "slightly" exaggerated. According to my personal calculations, at least 10 times.
According to covida, it is the usual severe acute respiratory viral infection. It is not for nothing that the figures of infected and dead are poked in our eyes, but they do not cite the statistics of mortality by year as an example. In real life, it is not higher than usual. Today, mortality from pneumonia is either the same or just slightly higher than in previous years. But they throw dust in our eyes, showing dozens of corpses. Which, as it later turns out, are not related to the coronovirus. The goals of all this panic are purely economic.

[rruvim]

The goals of all this panic are purely economic.

I agree!

[major147]

Quote: Ingvar 72

do not give an example of figures for mortality statistics by year.

In New York, everyone is currently discussing one of the latest statistics: the number of deaths between March 11 and April 25 increased almost 6 times compared with the average (over the previous 3 years) value of the same period. That is, if earlier 1200 people died a week, now - 6000 people.

All numbers in Yandex!

[Pivot]

In Italy, in February 2020, died less than in February 2019

[major147]

Quote: Pivot

In Italy, in February 2020, died less than in February 2019

2. In the city of Bergamo
Dead in Bergamo, by week

As you can see, the official data for the city of Bergamo as a whole confirm the data collected earlier by the Echo Bergamo newspaper - an increase in mortality by several times, although there are differences in individual numbers.

I will take out the data from the table here:

1st week of March: 39 dead in 2019, 47 in 2020, an increase of 1,2 times;
2st week of March: 35 dead in 2019, 153 in 2020, an increase of 4,4 times;
3rd week of March: 27 deaths in 2019, 198 in 2020, an increase of 7,3 times.
Look at the data on the affected areas, while the country is still specifying data based on last year.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: major147

All numbers in Yandex!

Yes. That's just not by the values ​​of the same period, but by the average annual. For seasonal SARS and Influenza in previous years were on different dates.

[major147]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: major147

All numbers in Yandex!

Yes. That's just not by the values ​​of the same period, but by the average annual. For seasonal SARS and Influenza in previous years were on different dates.

Take for a year.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: major147

Take for a year.

https://www.exler.ru/blog/analiz-smertnosti-po-godam-v-italii.htm.
He who knows how to compare numbers will understand.

[major147]

I will take out the data from the table here:

1st week of March: 39 dead in 2019, 47 in 2020, an increase of 1,2 times;
2st week of March: 35 dead in 2019, 153 in 2020, an increase of 4,4 times;
3rd week of March: 27 deaths in 2019, 198 in 2020, an increase of 7,3 times.
See data on affected areas, or is it not Italy?

https://www.exler.ru/blog/analiz-smertnosti-po-godam-v-italii.htm.
He who knows how to compare numbers will understand.

I can’t understand, you don’t believe in Covid? Of course this is your right, but suddenly your opinion is wrong and the people whom you convince of your point of view will die. How to live further with this?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: major147

See data on affected areas, or is it not Italy?

Once again - not objectively comparing dates for a specific period of time - in past years, the peak incidence of SARS and influenza was at another time.
Site 404 - remove the point at the end.

Quote: major147

I can’t understand, you don’t believe in Covid?

Why I do not believe it, of course. But this is just a SARS of a severe course, outbreaks of which periodically occur. And naturally, people die from complications, but this is common practice.

[major147]

Quote: Ingvar 72

But this is just a SARS of a severe course, outbreaks of which periodically occur. And naturally, people die from complications, but this is common practice.

There is such an opinion:

According to open data from the Moscow registry office, 11.846 deaths were recorded in the capital in April.
This is 1.596 more than in March. What is uncharacteristic - in April it’s 1 day less and the number of deaths in previous years has always been less than March ... And then the growth is immediately by 15,6%.
This is a jump in relation to April last year by 1.841 people. or 18,4%.
But according to official reports from the stopkoronavirus.ru website, on April 30, only 611 people died from the k-virus in Moscow. It is impossible to attribute more than a thousand deaths to a random deviation at the height of the epidemic. Obviously - this is a virus (deaths are carried out according to other "articles") and, in part, failures in the work of medicine because of it ...
We have already written about the implausible statistics of mortality from the k-virus in Russia. This hypothesis is overgrown with new evidence. It seems that real mortality from the k-virus is 3 times higher than officially announced.

Both positions, "overestimated and underestimated" losses from the virus, I regard only as "run over" to the current government.

[major147]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: major147

All numbers in Yandex!

Yes. That's just not by the values ​​of the same period, but by the average annual. For seasonal SARS and Influenza in previous years were on different dates.

See my post above.

According to scientists, in no country has the proportion of infected people exceeded 2-4%, while in order to develop herd immunity, 70% of the population must be ill or vaccinated.
They cited the example of the United States, where about 1,25 million people are infected today, but to achieve herd immunity without vaccination, at least 200 million cases are needed with a country's population of 328 million. Now we can say that every five hundredth New Yorker died from the coronavirus.
Epidemiologists urged people to give up the thought of deliberately contracting coronavirus for the sake of immunity. They recalled that in the 1980s, “chickenpox parties” were popular, the purpose of which was to infect chickenpox, and they urged not to arrange similar fun, since compared to chickenpox, which claimed no more than 150 lives a year, from the coronavirus in the States up to 2 thousand people die every day.
Moreover, if the coronavirus continues to spread in the United States at the same rate - 25 thousand new cases of infection per day, it will be possible to achieve herd immunity without a vaccine only in 2021, and this will cost the lives of more than 500 thousand Americans, the researchers say. It is reported by Rambler.

[Junior Private]

Late to rock the boat! A new refugee virus has successfully taken root and began to multiply. After a couple of decades, the native Europeans will not be up to the observance of their rights and freedoms.

[Ham]

even in tyrnetikah silence ... no one yells: "the Deutsch police are killing our children!" ...

[parkello]

well done Germans kole so ... the first went like a gritso)

[Graz]

the most correct was done in China, how many there are from 3 weeks to a month and a week in strict quarantine. and now all spheres are working there in Wuhan and Hebei province, but we didn’t understand that absolutely stupid self-isolation, which many did not observe from the very beginning, as a result of the infection curve is only growing, the economy is falling, people are sitting without salaries, the service sector has fallen

[major147]

Quote: Graz

the most correct was done in China, how many there are from 3 weeks to a month and a week in strict quarantine. and now all areas in Wuhan and Hebei province work there,

I can imagine a howl that would rise do so in Russia!

[Pvi1206]

to be continued in other countries ...

[Romul_78]

If something happens to change somewhere, it’s in the USA where the people have a lot of weapons in their hands. The authorities of most countries do not give a damn about all the other peaceful protests, about collecting signatures, at drinking and other things

[Pavel57]

Ghosts roam Europe.

[Lyudmila Kostargina]

Darwin Award Nominees.

[Lyudmila Kostargina]

The usual propaganda hype. You Can't Continue "/ Himmler to Schellenberg," 17 Moments of Spring

[APASUS]

I liked the first movie 1,25 Germans wear thongs on their faces, fleeing from coronavirus

[Lyudmila Kostargina]

https://nypost.com/2020/04/22/climate-activists-cheer-coronavirus-misery...

Eco-activist Greta Tunberg said that she was very glad of the global economic crisis that arose as a result of the coronavirus pandemic, because thanks to the crisis, her dream came true: carbon emissions in the atmosphere decreased. She made such a statement on the eve of Earth Day, the newspaper The New York Post writes.

The Swedish schoolgirl was supported by other "eco-stars", such as, for example, actor Joaquin Phoenix.

However, the 17-year-old Thunberg warned like-minded people from being overly optimistic about the pause in carbon pollution, because the so-called climate crisis "is not slowing down."

March 24, Greta said that she discovered the symptoms of coronavirus. She wrote about this in her profile on Instagram. In this regard, the girl urged everyone to stay at home in order to prevent the spread of the disease in the world.

https://iz.ru/1004341/2020-04-25/greta-tunberg-rasskazala-o-realizatcii-...

[Lyudmila Kostargina]

There is no Fuhrer on them

[Radical]

Quote: AndreyS

Quote: forest1

Without the insignia, it is the Russian Guard. A lot of already boiling was on the net that they began to go out to rallies completely without identifying marks. The police are all with chivrons.

Do not invent, do not need to do this. Take a look at the uniform of employees without chevrons and everything will be clear. She that at those who in chevrons, that without - the same. Rosguard does not wear such a uniform. Yes, however, this is not important because women are in the stomach, this is a sweeping accusation personally from you, there are no such actions in the video. Moreover, no violations are visible in the actions of the police, from the word at all.

So who was it - a group of citizens indignant at the rally, who bought special equipment, and uniforms for their vital weapons?

[Egor53]

Quarantine leads not only to a decrease in the spread of coronovirus, but also to additional deaths.
For some reason, data on losses is not provided anywhere, moreover, in death, due to quarantine, self-isolation, closure of enterprises, etc.
For some reason, it seems to me that these losses exceed mortality from the coronovirus.

[Ros 56]

Well, sheep, what to take from them. Now the Germans have a mortality rate of about 4,5%, protesting up to 16%, as in Belgium. That is why sometimes people need to prove their own benefit with the help of a dubbing?

[Pilat2009]

I do not see the Germans in the photo.