Press of the Netherlands about the parade in Belarus: But what about the “crown”?

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Press of the Netherlands about the parade in Belarus: But what about the “crown”?

The Dutch press responded to a military parade in Belarus. Large Dutch media (NU.nl, de Volkskrant) informed their readers that Alexander Lukashenko decided not to refuse events on the day of the 75th anniversary of the Victory.

The de Volkskrant correspondent Tom Wannink in his article raises the question “What about the“ crown ”?”, Bearing in mind that the events in Minsk took place during the pandemic.



From a material in a Dutch newspaper:

President Lukashenko claims that the coronavirus has not affected the Republic of Belarus, although there are more than 22 thousand confirmed cases of infection and 126 deaths. Lukashenko said the virus is a psychosis that is best controlled by drinking vodka or working hard. Belarus is one of the few countries where there are no quarantine measures, where every weekend league teams play football with spectators in the stands.

The author informs Dutch readers about how important Victory Day is for Belarus and Belarusians. It is noted that the republic lost about 2,5 million people during the war.



Author:

But during the parade no preventive and protective measures were taken. People crowded along the side of the road to watch the procession. Veterans sat on the podium for guests of honor shoulder to shoulder. This Saturday everything went as if they had a normal spring around - without coronavirus.

In the same material, Dutch readers were informed that the Russian authorities decided to abandon large-scale celebrations. It is noted that the military parade was held in the form of a flight of various means aviation techniques.

From the article:

President Putin has rescheduled a military parade on Red Square on an unknown date this year.
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  1. +10
    10 May 2020 14: 35
    Lukashenko is a man. I was with the people. In Belarus there was a real Victory Day. But Putin's dull mumble was not worth a penny.
    1. +9
      10 May 2020 14: 51
      Putin did the right thing, and the parade can be held in September.
      1. +28
        10 May 2020 17: 00
        Yesterday, May 9, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova was indignant at the publication of a White House statement on Instagram about the victory of the United States and Great Britain over Nazism, in which all [countries] were excluded from the list of winners, except for the two.
        “Call it what you want: falsification, mockery of common sense, rewriting history. But when such a comment is made by the official authorities of a country that calls itself the "leader of the free world" and "defender of democracy", an implacable fighter against fakes, one cannot put up with it, ”Zakharova said.
        Unfortunately, the failure to hold the military Victory Parades on May 9, 2020 in the same Russian Federation only contributes to these impudent statements of Washington.
        And the coronavirus pandemic in this regard is working in a hostile manner against the former republics of the USSR in the USA in the Americans appropriating the whole Great Victory over Hitlerism in WWII.

        And in this historically and politically relevant plan - in terms of upholding the historical truth of the Soviet Union - I understand and fully support R. Belarus and its President A. Lukashenko to hold a military parade in R. Belarus in honor of the 75th anniversary of Victory Day all our Soviet country over Nazi Germany and its allies in WWII and WWII.
        At the same time, R. Belarus, as in the early days of the Second World War, again HEROICALLY took the blow from enemy invaders.

        I admire the military parade on May 9, 2020 in the Republic of Belarus! I fully support the speech of A. Lukashenko!
        And I think that this military Victory Parade 2020 in the Republic of Belarus will definitely go down in world history with honor!
        1. -21
          10 May 2020 18: 07
          The struggle for the presidency and nothing more.
          1. -21
            10 May 2020 22: 03
            Quote: nikolaj1703
            The struggle for the presidency and nothing more.

            Some kind of carnival costume fastened my father on the parade .. tell me the title of father’s? But he doesn’t have a title, even the president’s press service was bewildered by such a question .. they called him the commander in chief ... such titles also exist, if necessary ...
            1. +16
              10 May 2020 22: 22
              Quote: Nasr
              A carnival costume put some kind of father on the parade .. tell me the title of Father


              What about Shoigu? From lieutenants to generals - and nothing.
              1. -10
                10 May 2020 23: 07
                Quote: Banshee
                Quote: Nasr
                A carnival costume put some kind of father on the parade .. tell me the title of Father


                What about Shoigu? From lieutenants to generals - and nothing.

                There is no talk about Shoigu ... all the more, Shoigu did not hold the Parade ... and he is not the president ... You better ask why Lukash arrived at the Victory Parade? - on the Maybach! Symbolically !!!

                And now to the words of this commander in chief:

                “The eyes of the Soviet soldiers who died for our freedom look at us, the eyes of partisans and underground members tortured in the dungeons of the Gestapo, the eyes of the elderly, women and children of Khatyn. They really wanted to live, but died so that we live”, Lukashenko especially emphasized.
                The president’s words contradict the actions of Lukashenko himself - he exposed people to danger of infection and says something like that ... And for the sake of completeness, everyone should personally face the consequences for families of young 5-year-old people who burned out over 10-45 days ... you don’t want anyone ..
                About people of age and say nothing. And you can make any speeches

                For the first time in our history, they sacrificed symbolism for the sake of the health and life of people ... which can not be said about the Belarusian President




                People took masks, but the infection is not visible and there are a lot of people - that means there is no infection ... but what if it was about going off the scale of radiation?
            2. NKT
              +1
              10 May 2020 22: 38
              Most likely these are epaulettes of the type of VGK, but unofficial, as their highest military rank is Colonel General.
            3. -2
              11 May 2020 05: 05
              Quote: Nasr
              Tell me the title of Butsky?

              Generalissimo.
        2. -3
          10 May 2020 18: 26
          Quote: Tatiana
          the failure to hold the military Victory Parades on May 9, 2020 in the same Russian Federation only contributes to these arrogant statements by Washington.

          Something I have not seen "victory parades" either in Washington or London ....
          1. +3
            12 May 2020 09: 17
            Quote: major147
            Something I have not seen "victory parades" either in Washington or London ....

            And you will not see. They have already forgotten their history. They have a new - "tolerant history".
            But you can always, if you want, see a gay parade in London or in Washington. wink laughing
            1. 0
              12 May 2020 10: 29
              Quote: Misha Honest
              if you want to see a gay parade in London or Washington.

              Ugh on you! stop
              1. 0
                15 May 2020 20: 31
                So I didn’t offer ... (((And you. And what am I doing here?
                1. 0
                  15 May 2020 22: 25
                  Quote: Misha Honest
                  So I did not offer ...

                  Just in case, that would not be appropriate No.
      2. +13
        10 May 2020 17: 23
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        parade can be held in September

        It is possible in November.
        1. +11
          10 May 2020 17: 58
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          the parade can be held in September.

          Quote: iouris
          It is possible in November.

          then on the day of the official end of the war with Germany
          PRESIDIUM OF THE SUPREME COUNCIL OF THE USSR
          DECREE
          January 25, 1955
          On ending the state of war between the Soviet Union and Germany

          The Presidium of the Supreme Council of the USSR by this Decree declares:

          1. The state of war between the Soviet Union and Germany ceases and peaceful relations are established between them.

          2. All legal restrictions arising in connection with the war with respect to German citizens who were regarded as citizens of an enemy state lose their force.

          3. The announcement of the termination of the state of war with Germany does not change its international obligations and does not affect the rights and obligations of the Soviet Union arising from the existing international agreements of the four powers concerning Germany as a whole.

          “Vedomosti of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR” 1955, No. 2
        2. 0
          10 May 2020 21: 51
          Quote: iouris
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          parade can be held in September

          It is possible in November.

          There are already close to May 2021
          1. 0
            10 May 2020 22: 57
            Quote: RUSS
            May 2021 not far

            But we still have to survive (not everyone succeeds). The easiest way to cancel the year 2020. Completely. And go to your counter-revolutionary calendar
      3. +1
        10 May 2020 17: 53
        Right! There is Victory Day over Japan! Well, we'll talk about the "peremog" of Bat Lukash in a couple of weeks. Then it will become clear who is right and who is not.
        1. 0
          11 May 2020 08: 52
          Do not find out.
          Statistics will be like in that joke:
          1) Old Man is always right.
          2) If the Old Man is wrong, see point 1.
      4. +4
        10 May 2020 18: 01
        Better: on November 7, 1920, the Perekop-Chongar operation of the Red Army began (November 7-17, 1920), as a result of which Crimea was liberated from the White Guard troops, the last major battle of the Civil War.
      5. -8
        10 May 2020 21: 08
        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Putin did the right thing, and the parade can be held in September.

        There has always been a lot of symbolism in our country, a lot has been done to certain dates - when it really was justified, in particular, the parade on November 7, 1941 is really a momentous event .... in the current situation, the president acted correctly, rescheduled the parade, not to expose dangers to the health and lives of our people ..
        As for Belarus and the May 9 parade - this is their decision, but I have seen enough of the sick relatives of the "crown", while at what speed !!! and almost without exception whole families from my relatives who have been mowing to hospital beds - in reality - are very seriously ill, I emphasize - some of the whole family, including children in different hospitals ... Was there a risk of getting sick for a person at the Parade - definitely - YES!
        1. +4
          11 May 2020 08: 57
          My whole family was worn out ... Sadness hi He invented it, he believed it. The same bida sadness smile
          1. 0
            11 May 2020 20: 12
            Igor! To scoff at someone else’s mischief. The man most likely wrote the truth. My sympathy and wish for the recovery of the Eulampias.
      6. -2
        11 May 2020 04: 47
        AND . What is the September Parade? Guano complete .I, my children, my friends, know, remember that. May 9 is Victory Day, but not in September
      7. +1
        11 May 2020 08: 46
        laughing Can. And Easter could have been in September.
      8. +1
        11 May 2020 12: 23
        Putin did the right thing, and the parade can be held in September.

        Yeah, I didn’t quote the fascist Ilyin this year, and thanks for that)
    2. +17
      10 May 2020 14: 55
      Your Lukashenko is a strange person. Either he declares that the Second World War is not a war in Belarus and that Belarus suffered because of the Russians, then he conducts parades and all kinds of action for Victory in the very virus ... Yes, Putin does not speak loudly, does not squeal that he is constantly being tipped ... ... It will be more expensive to "tilt" Putin .......
      1. -6
        10 May 2020 15: 19
        Quote: Chingachguk
        Your Lukashenko is a strange person. He claims that the Second World War is not a war of Belarus and that Belarus suffered because of Russians
        And what are Putin’s statements that the RSFSR supposedly could have cope with the Reich without other republics? They stand each other, that Putin, that Lukashenko.
        1. -19
          10 May 2020 16: 07
          Hahahahaha !!! And what is the RSFSR? wassat
          1. +9
            10 May 2020 20: 16
            Quote: Chingachguk
            Hahahahaha !!! And what is the RSFSR?
            What story can be discussed further? The school holidays, a lot of free time?
            1. -4
              10 May 2020 20: 31
              You drop a link to the resource where Putin said that supposedly the RSFSR and without other republics would have cope with the Reich. And then we are arguing about something, but about what, only you know .....
              1. 0
                11 May 2020 20: 13
                In boxing, it's called shadow boxing!
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              1. +13
                10 May 2020 21: 23
                but nobody will give you more to milk Russia as a successor to the USSR.
                firstly here is the receiver

                secondly, Russian officials were the most distinguished in milking Russia.
        2. +13
          10 May 2020 16: 09
          Quote: Karaul20
          And what are Putin’s statements that the RSFSR supposedly could have cope with the Reich without other republics?

          where is it? when is it? That Russia (the USSR) would most likely have managed without the help of the Allies, I generally read it, and I believe some kind of garbage about the RSFSR - the USSR was then both impossible and stupid to consider such options.
          1. +1
            10 May 2020 20: 13
            Quote: poquello
            where is it? when is it? That Russia (the USSR) would most likely have managed without the help of the Allies, I generally read it, and I believe some kind of garbage about the RSFSR - the USSR was then both impossible and stupid to consider such options.
            I admit this discussion, whether the USSR would have managed without the help of its allies, although I am inclined to believe that the Reich would unwind us one on one. But this is exactly what Putin said: "if we were separated (from the republics), we would have won anyway, because the RSFSR made the main contribution." youtube / watch? v = K0FJge8nDxM
            1. +1
              11 May 2020 16: 12
              Quote: Karaul20
              I am inclined to believe that one on one Reich would have unwound us.

              without allied 7% help? I’d just unwind it))))))))))))))
              Quote: Karaul20
              This is exactly what Putin said: "if we were disunited (from the republics), we would have won anyway, because the RSFSR made the main contribution."

              yes indeed, too self-confident, although it was the Siberian regiments that broke the ridge to the Germans
          2. +1
            10 May 2020 21: 37
            Quote: poquello
            where is it? when is it?

            It was so.
        3. +2
          10 May 2020 16: 20
          No need to compare ..... Since 1922, a balarus in the USSR The war was one for all, but your Lukashenka, from the "brotherly" republic of Belarus, requires preferences from the Russian Federation, in the form of cheap energy supplies .... How to understand this? I helped when my brother was having a hard time, now my brother has to feed, groom and lilify me all his life ... I really hope that it won't be like this ... Brothers don't do that ... You gave a scepter to your collective farmer for many years back, separated from Russia, you have your own policy, your own economy, why is your Lukashenka constantly indignant? Here he is not so, then there, not that way !!! I do not like the price of oil and gas, buy where you like, what are the problems?
        4. 0
          10 May 2020 18: 27
          Quote: Karaul20
          Quote: Chingachguk
          Your Lukashenko is a strange person. He claims that the Second World War is not a war of Belarus and that Belarus suffered because of Russians
          And what are Putin’s statements that the RSFSR supposedly could have cope with the Reich without other republics? They stand each other, that Putin, that Lukashenko.

          Can I have a reference?
          1. +4
            10 May 2020 20: 09
            Quote: major147
            Can I have a reference?
            YouTube / watch? v = K0FJge8nDxM
            1. -1
              10 May 2020 21: 53
              Quote: Karaul20
              Quote: major147
              Can I have a reference?
              YouTube / watch? v = K0FJge8nDxM

              Thank you, I myself found this performance. There, responding to a biker question, Putin said that he would have won without Ukraine. He also said that the RSFSR suffered major losses - more than 70%, and not wanting to offend anyone, said that the war was won mainly due to the human and industrial resources of the RSFSR.
              Your words what
              Putin’s statements that the RSFSR supposedly could have cope with the Reich without other republics
              to put it mildly - not true!
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1yiaQ-Z-84 с 3мин. 50 сек.
      2. +14
        10 May 2020 17: 52
        Quote: Chingachguk
        Your Lukashenko is a strange person. Either he declares that the Second World War is not a war in Belarus and that Belarus suffered because of the Russians, then he conducts parades and all kinds of action for Victory in the very virus ... Yes, Putin does not speak loudly, does not squeal that he is constantly being tipped ... ... It will be more expensive to "tilt" Putin .......

        Why bother him (Putin)? Everyone has already tipped him, and the oligarchy, and the West, and China. Together with him they inclined us, because you feel the life of a common people? Vivat Lukashenko!
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    3. -3
      10 May 2020 15: 09
      Quote: Nonna
      Lukashenko is a man. I was with the people. In Belarus there was a real Victory Day. But Putin's dull mumble was not worth a penny.

      Lukashenko didn’t ruin his medicine; he has enough ventilation devices. And if so, then he, unlike Russia, can afford it.
      1. +15
        10 May 2020 15: 22
        I’ll tell you about Belarusian medicine. Woman, 47 years old, nurse at school. In the death certificate according to the hospital: pneumonia, cerebral edema (!), Death from a stroke. No checks were made on the crown (there are none in the city, and the result from the regional center in a week at best), they were not connected to mechanical ventilation (because there are three devices in the hospital, and in the whole city there are 220 thousand people, at best, a dozen) .
        1. +14
          10 May 2020 18: 00
          Quote: Zeev Zeev
          I’ll tell you about Belarusian medicine. Woman, 47 years old, nurse at school. In the death certificate according to the hospital: pneumonia, cerebral edema (!), Death from a stroke.

          From the coronavirus, the assistant to the duty commandant's office of the Moscow Kremlin, major of the Federal Security Service (FSO) Alexey Titov, died. On April 26 and 27, Titov tried to call an ambulance, but she never arrived.
          The presidential regiment’s car was taken to the hospital, and died on April 30.
          Quote: Zeev Zeev
          No crown checks were done

          what?
          1. 0
            10 May 2020 18: 23
            And then there is no crown. Just a lot of pneumonia.
            1. +6
              10 May 2020 20: 49
              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              Just a lot of pneumonia.

              which ones? intra-or community-acquired, specific or nonspecific?
              1. +2
                10 May 2020 21: 57
                As they want, they’ll write it down.
      2. +3
        10 May 2020 15: 41
        Is it possible about specific ventilation figures? And it is desirable in comparison with other countries.
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      4. +9
        10 May 2020 16: 13
        By the beginning of the epidemic in Russia there were 49000 ventilators. This is more than in any European country. Unlike the Netherlands, Sweden and Britain, we independently produce mechanical ventilation at several domestic enterprises.
        According to the Ministry of Health of Belarus, in February there were 1500 ventilators in the republic, mainly of Russian production. The republic does not produce ventilators
        1. +5
          10 May 2020 18: 05
          Quote: Brancodd
          We independently produce mechanical ventilation at several domestic enterprises.

          quality and their functionality do not specify?
          Quote: Brancodd
          in Russia there were 49000 ventilators.

          is it a lot or a little? 15% mechanical ventilation over 9 years. In all regions of Russia, there is a shortage of ventilators and extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO), which can lead to serious consequences in the event of a large-scale epidemic of coronavirus infection in the country.
          By the way, in 2018, a certain Medvedev banned the purchase of mechanical ventilation abroad, and his quality suffers
          1. -3
            10 May 2020 19: 57
            What to compare with? So what do the Swedes and the British not produce? Americans and Italians did not complain about quality. Who was the deficit? None of the regions reported a lack of mechanical ventilation. Online reserve created. In May, the monthly release of mechanical ventilation reached 2500. In June, 3000 are planned.
            Well, the criterion of effectiveness is mortality. In Russia, -1%. In the USA - 6%. In Britain - 13%
            1. +8
              10 May 2020 20: 44
              Quote: Brancodd
              None of the regions reported a lack of mechanical ventilation

              you think so.
              Areas with the largest shortage of ventilators

              Golikova; there are 40 thousand ventilation devices in Russia (3,4% of the total number of beds in Russia), up to 12 thousand devices are missing before the standards of the Ministry of Health. The overall deficit is 23%, but in some regions it is much larger.
              In the Krasnodar Territory, for example, with such a calculation, more than 800 devices are missing, in Bashkiria - more than 380, in the Belgorod region - more than 240.
              Now in Russian hospitals one ventilator is in 30 patients, and 15% of these devices are quite old. With coronavirus, if you rely on American statistics, every fourth hospitalized person needs it. As soon as in Russia the number of patients with coronavirus reaches 800 thousand, and the number of hospitalized - 160 thousand, the devices in hospitals will end.
              Quote: Brancodd
              Well, the criterion of effectiveness is mortality.

              You can discuss this criterion.
              Quote: Brancodd
              In Russia, -1%.

              according to official data.
              Take another group of patients.
              Italy: 218 thousand sick and 152 dead physicians. Total mortality 50.1 per 100 thousand population
              Russia: 206 thousand sick and 160 dead physician. The total mortality rate is 1.2 per 100 thousand population.
              Explain this fact. Why, with an incomparably low mortality rate among patients, is mortality among sick Russian doctors at the Italian level?
            2. -4
              10 May 2020 21: 01
              Who are you trying to explain this to? Don't waste time and save your nerves. Elections are on the way! The tractor driver needs the crown! He will do anything! Starting with paid PR people, and ending with breeding viruses, so that in August as few observers as possible came and it would be possible to count the votes "CORRECT ......."
              Unlike his population, Lukashenko must have good doctors and mechanical ventilation, and medicines if that ..... So you can advise everyone else to a glass of moonshine and a tractor as a treatment .....
              1. +3
                10 May 2020 21: 43
                Quote: Chingachguk
                And to whom are you trying to explain this?

                He is trying to explain something to the doctor.
            3. +6
              10 May 2020 21: 12
              Quote: Brancodd
              What to compare with?

              According to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), Germany has approximately 22–23 thousand intensive care beds equipped with, among other things, mechanical ventilation devices. This is approximately 29 beds per 100 people. Russia: we have at our disposal 000 thousand resuscitation beds, 12 beds per 8.3 people. For experiencing a real tragedy in Italy, this figure is 100.
              Apparatus for blood oxygen enrichment (ECMO), which are used to treat severe patients with COVID-19, at that time were generally absent in 22 regions of the Russian Federation. A year after this statement, in October 2019, experts noted that in Russia there is a lack of specialists who can apply this treatment method. ECMO saves 50% of lives in pulmonary failure.
              Dräger (Germany) with what domestic do you want to compare?
            4. +1
              12 May 2020 15: 47
              Quote: Brancodd
              What to compare with?

              It turns out there is something!
              According to the preliminary version, voiced by Smolny, “the cause of the fire was a short circuit in the electrical equipment: one of the ventilation devices caught fire”. Specialists have to find out what led to the ignition of the ventilator, which was It was produced at the Ural Instrument-Making Plant in 2020 and brought to Petersburg directly from production only in April.
              name at least one foreign-made artificial ventilation device
        2. +1
          10 May 2020 21: 36
          What makes you think that the UK does not produce ventilators?
          BREAS MEDICAL-Stratford-Upon-Avon
          Meditec International England Ltd.-Harrow, Middx

          This is so offhand ...
      5. +2
        10 May 2020 16: 19
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Lukashenko didn’t ruin his medicine; he has enough ventilation devices. And if so, then he, unlike Russia, can afford it.

        Right. A few days ago, he stated that the bed fund was not involved and by 10%, they did not experience any excessive load on the doctors.
        1. -2
          10 May 2020 17: 15
          Did Lukashenko tell you that the bed fund is 10% involved? So you believe him more.
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            1. -7
              10 May 2020 18: 07
              What, and we are also to blame for coronavirus? Here it is ...
              I suggest Lukashenko to find the courage to recognize reality. A tractor and one hundred grams of bilateral pneumonia will not be cured, and mass events will not stop the spread.
              1. +1
                10 May 2020 18: 10
                The UFS had a fight recently. having earned praise from Trump .. are you up to date with this action? Dana White was not afraid.)
          2. -3
            10 May 2020 18: 04
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            Did Lukashenko tell you that the bed fund is 10% involved? So you believe him more.

            We’ll wait and see, I believe that in two, three months it will be clear where the medicine is.
            1. -3
              10 May 2020 18: 22
              Given the fact that in Belarus there are no media other than state-owned, we will not know. There is an installation that the coronovirus is not dangerous, and there will be no information.
              1. +4
                10 May 2020 18: 24
                Quote: Zeev Zeev
                Given the fact that in Belarus there are no media other than state-owned, we will not know. There is an installation that the coronovirus is not dangerous, and there will be no information.

                Do you know a lot of non-pro-media media in Russia? YouTube channels do not count.
                1. -1
                  10 May 2020 18: 26
                  Government and government are two different things. You finally understood that a pandemic is a reality. And the ruler of Belarus does not even want to understand this.
                  1. +3
                    10 May 2020 18: 29
                    Quote: Zeev Zeev
                    Government and government are two different things.

                    May be different by definition, but the same in essence.
                    Quote: Zeev Zeev
                    You finally understood that a pandemic is a reality. And the ruler of Belarus does not even want to understand this.

                    Time will put everything in its place.
          3. +1
            10 May 2020 21: 45
            I will not say for "Butt", but in London, NHS Nightingale Hospital London was deployed on the territory of the ExCeL exhibition complex for 500 beds with the possibility of expanding to 4000!
            AND? Less than 50 beds are currently occupied. The rest of the hospital is about the same busy. For London, about the same situation.
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      6. -17
        10 May 2020 16: 23
        And who ruined his medicine, Putin?
        1. +12
          10 May 2020 18: 26
          Quote: Chingachguk
          And who ruined his medicine, Putin?

          At least under his "wise leadership".
          1. -9
            10 May 2020 18: 28
            Did Lukashenko tell you that?
            I don’t even want to argue with you ...... There is no medicine in Russia according to yours, well, okay. The main thing is that you had everything !!!! good
            1. +8
              10 May 2020 18: 36
              Quote: Chingachguk
              Did Lukashenko tell you that?
              I don’t even want to argue with you ...... There is no medicine in Russia according to yours, well, okay. The main thing is that you had everything !!!!

              Personally, he flew to me by helicopter. Regarding the state of our current Russian medicine, I can only speak obscene. They optimized to the extent that I went to the regional center several times with three of my four children to make a diagnosis there. Do you think this should be so?
              1. -5
                10 May 2020 18: 37
                And my mother-in-law, a cancer patient, was put on her feet. What do you think should be wrong?
                1. +5
                  10 May 2020 18: 40
                  Quote: Chingachguk
                  And my mother-in-law, a cancer patient, was put on her feet. What do you think should be wrong?

                  I am happy for your mother-in-law, but in my city, she doesn’t have normal medicine, I only have money, or a turn for half a year in advance.
              2. -14
                10 May 2020 18: 40
                To each his own, everyone has something to say. So do not deceive yourself and others .... Everything was ruined under Yeltsin, and Putin had to restore everything, starting with the army .....
                1. +11
                  10 May 2020 18: 42
                  Quote: Chingachguk
                  To each his own, everyone has something to say. So do not deceive yourself and others .... Everything was ruined under Yeltsin, and Putin had to restore everything, starting with the army .....

                  Yeltsin began, Putin continues. For me, there is no fundamental difference between them.
                  1. -7
                    10 May 2020 18: 46
                    What can we talk about with you then? All the best to you, good health to all.
                    1. +4
                      10 May 2020 19: 08
                      Quote: Chingachguk
                      What can we talk about with you then? All the best to you, good health to all.

                      Despite the different positions, the main thing is always to remain people. Health to you. Good luck.
                  2. -6
                    10 May 2020 20: 26
                    Just one question --- how much after Yeltsin did Putin allow the Russian army? wink
                    1. +11
                      10 May 2020 21: 26
                      Quote: Chingachguk
                      Just one question --- how much after Yeltsin did Putin allow the Russian army? wink

                      This "Just One Question" is not very simple. This is not about Putin destroying the army. We are talking about something else, our current economic model is built around a conventional "pipe" (ie, trade in natural resources, with a low redistribution), all these resources, in the first approximation, belong to Putin's "narrow circle". Russia no longer builds such factories as the Chelyabinsk Tractor, AZLK, etc. To service the pipe, such a population is excessive, look how many "non-production" specialties we have now, how many people are employed in them. To protect natural resources, which our oligorkhat considers to be their property, we need an army, funds for it are allocated and developed. But tell me, can today's Russia withstand a war like the Great Patriotic War? I think the answer is obvious. Unfortunately, we will not be able to "repeat". But the USSR, even during the Brezhnev stagnation period, could. Therefore, no one had any thoughts to seriously think about any territorial claims or to break down monuments to the liberators. There are many things to list, because I think that the path that Russia is taking today is the path to collapse and degradation.
      7. -6
        10 May 2020 16: 33
        stop lying, this little town king squeals loudly, but quietly lowers everything on the brakes
      8. +1
        10 May 2020 16: 49
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Quote: Nonna
        Lukashenko is a man. I was with the people. In Belarus there was a real Victory Day. But Putin's dull mumble was not worth a penny.

        Lukashenko didn’t ruin his medicine; he has enough ventilation devices. And if so, then he, unlike Russia, can afford it.

        what a people! then tanks in horsepower, then coronoviruses in ventilation, do not have time to save and no ventilation will help if the virus has already demolished the lungs, there are already other devices included, if on time and if available
        1. 0
          10 May 2020 18: 31
          Before getting under mechanical ventilation, people need to turn on the brain! Well, why strain, if Old Man said that there is no virus !!!! He grunted a couple of glasses of bouryakhi and behind the wheel of his tractor to raise the economy of Belarus !!!!! good
        2. 0
          11 May 2020 00: 34
          ... if the virus has already demolished the lungs, there already other devices include ...

          Emergency lung reconstruction devices?
          I jerk. hi
      9. -1
        10 May 2020 17: 57
        The ventilator is the last chance in resuscitation and, alas, after the ventilator mortality from 70 to 75 percent. And if you look at the nightmare shots of patients on mechanical ventilation, then you certainly will not envy potential Belarusians. I think that in a couple of weeks Lukashenko this madness will click firmly. It’s good if he’s alive.
        1. -1
          10 May 2020 18: 34
          He does it on purpose. His elections are in August, and the fewer observers come, the easier it will be to "correctly count" the votes.
          1. +3
            10 May 2020 21: 52
            There will be no observers. The CEC announced that because of the coronavirus, observers will not be allowed into the polling stations. Like this. There is no virus for the parade, there is for the re-election.
        2. -2
          10 May 2020 19: 00
          Quote: LeonidL
          The ventilator is the last chance in intensive care

          You need to repeat! When the lungs fall off, what the hell, why are you going to vent? Only saturation of blood with oxygen will help, these are other devices.
      10. +6
        10 May 2020 18: 07
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Lukashenko didn’t ruin his medicine; he has enough ventilation devices. And if so, then he, unlike Russia, can afford it.


        Rostislav Savitsky, anesthesiologist and resuscitator of the Vitebsk ambulance hospital, agreed to tell Details about how the coronavirus actually spreads in Belarus. thirty April, the head physician of this hospital was dismissed.
        . In our country, patients with confirmed tests lie next to patients whose results are not confirmed. This is a common practice. Unfortunately, it takes a very long time to wait for the result. All are put in one chamber, and after a week it turns out that two have Covid-19, and two do not. But after they lay there together for a week, there is no point in transferring someone somewhere, because most likely everyone now has the virus.
        . We have patients with Covid-19 in every hospital, but officially confirmed cases in only three hospitals - and everyone else is diagnosed to patients severe pneumonia.
        And how many are actually infected?
        - The official numbers are, let's say, very soft. The real data is much worse, and even we cannot understand how much worse. For example, we are given statistics that there are almost 16 infected in Belarus (data for May 000, more than 2 cases are detected every day), of which 1600 in Vitebsk area. But in one only Vitebsk now has about 2 pneumonia! I think that more than half of them will be confirmed. And if we take the whole region, then in some areas it is also blazing very strongly, there are a lot of severe patients, and in general there are many cases. That is the numbers clearly underestimated - as the total number of infected, and dead from this disease.

        - Is the Ministry of Health underestimating?
        - The ministry, most likely, has nothing to do with it. The ministry, I think, would itself like to give real numbers. Here everything goes higher than the ministry, at a different direction. Many, I am sure, do not report. Information is hiding, apparently in order not to cause panic. But it seems to me that it is more correct to give honest statistics, so people could be fully aware of the problem.
        In my opinion, it is nevertheless necessary to introduce quarantine. Restrict the movement of people, prevent mass crowds, keep children out of school - otherwise their grandparents will become infected throughout the country. Cancel all sporting events. WHO presents our leadership with precisely these claims, but so far there are no prerequisites for something to change. All of this is being discussed, but no one is doing anything.
    4. +1
      10 May 2020 15: 42
      Belarus shows what this pandemic is worth, it’s hysteria and psychosis, which are pumped up by carts and Putin.
      1. -2
        10 May 2020 18: 52
        In August we will see how "honestly" your elections will be held ...... How many observers will come to the republic, which did not have quarantine ..... Although ..... For this, everything is done by potato daddy ... .. Crown first of all !!!!!! good
    5. -15
      10 May 2020 16: 29
      when the bulbs of the lungs spit out, who will your potato Fuhrer be?
      1. +13
        10 May 2020 17: 44
        Watch out for the broom! Why are you whole people oskarblyaesh ?!
        1. +8
          10 May 2020 17: 57
          You forgive him .. victim EG ..
        2. +2
          10 May 2020 18: 33
          Quote: bondrostov
          Watch out for the broom! Why are you whole people oskarblyaesh ?!

          I agree! But it will be really insulting if the Victory Parade in Belarus leads to illness and, God forbid, to the death of people. With all due respect to the people of Belarus. I wish you all good health hi
          1. -2
            10 May 2020 18: 43
            The whole world is in quarantine, it falls into money, and in Belarus the Old Man is smarter than everyone! Well done!!!! What else to say! good
            1. 0
              10 May 2020 18: 45
              Quote: Chingachguk
              The whole world is in quarantine, it falls into money, and in Belarus the Old Man is smarter than everyone! Well done!!!! What else to say! good

              There is a saying: "Chickens are counted in the fall", here really autumn will show who was right.
    6. +10
      10 May 2020 17: 42
      Solidarity, a shameful sight with the "guarantor".
    7. -6
      10 May 2020 20: 17
      Nona HOLIDAY at all costs is stupidity. He is not a man of apreore, for he is afraid to confess to his own mistakes. And at the parade, including those who were infected. And what kind of a parade is it, for participation in which they pay money or drive away threats.
    8. 0
      10 May 2020 22: 59
      At us, in the Republic of Belarus, nobody asked anyone if we want a parade now or better to help doctors. So, the overwhelming majority would choose to help doctors, but there is one person in Belarus who decides all issues and how to treat people, and when to conduct the parade, and how to engage in agricultural work. If someone does not understand, then this is the President of the Republic of Belarus A. Lukashenko.

      PS Everyone was in favor of transferring the parade, at least to June 24 or July 3, too.
  2. -3
    10 May 2020 14: 36
    After 5 days, we begin to monitor the dynamics of the crown in Belarus.
    1. +1
      10 May 2020 16: 20
      Quote: yfast
      After 5 days, we begin to monitor the dynamics of the crown in Belarus.

      difficult to follow because testing must be stable
      - Write, died of a coronovirus.
      “So he has a hole in his head?”
      - Write, accompanying.
    2. +2
      10 May 2020 17: 42
      At home, follow better.
  3. +6
    10 May 2020 14: 36
    And all of them from grandfathers got immunity to coronavirus
  4. +44
    10 May 2020 14: 39
    Nothing to discuss, at least for now.
    Let everything be good with our brothers!
  5. +1
    10 May 2020 14: 42
    Quote: yfast
    After 5 days, we begin to monitor the dynamics of the crown in Belarus.

    No, judging by Easter, in 7-9 days
    1. +13
      10 May 2020 14: 55
      Well, there is one nuance - the virus, as it turned out, is sensitive to ultraviolet radiation. The better the weather, the slower it spreads ...
      the only thing that the Italians, but for some reason it didn’t really help
      1. +2
        10 May 2020 16: 29
        Quote: alexmach
        Well, there is one nuance - the virus, as it turned out, is sensitive to ultraviolet radiation. The better the weather, the slower it spreads ...
        the only thing that the Italians, but for some reason it didn’t really help

        because at 30 it only slows down activity, and there is no ultraviolet in the shade
        1. +6
          10 May 2020 16: 33
          As soon as the weather improved, the spreading rate decreased by an order of magnitude ... although we have already had a fairly serious quarantine for 2 months with the rule "do not gather more than two", which is still generally observed.
          1. +3
            10 May 2020 16: 38
            Quote: alexmach
            As soon as the weather improved, the spreading rate decreased by an order of magnitude ... although we have already had a fairly serious quarantine for 2 months with the rule "do not gather more than two", which is still generally observed.

            so this quarantine just works, now the only concern is the speed of the laboratories - for a week it’s an ass to do the result, fortune can punish
            1. +4
              10 May 2020 16: 41
              so this quarantine just works

              Yes .. about the same as in China and Italy - 2 months give the result. Now they are gradually talking about lifting the restrictions, today the child had his first "live" training in the fresh air in the park and not by "video link".
        2. 0
          10 May 2020 18: 02
          To quickly "kill" the virus, you need such a tough ultraviolet that it will kill the living at the same time. Moreover, ultraviolet light does not penetrate into a person, but it acts on the streets. But it's better not to rely too much on him, as well as on Lukashenka's advice on vodka. If the virus has already entered the bloodstream, into the cells of the lungs, bronchi ... then there is only hope for immunity.
    2. +8
      10 May 2020 15: 02
      In any case, in Belarus it is possible to conduct only about 900 tests per day. So the increase will be appropriate.
      1. +3
        10 May 2020 16: 46
        only about 900 tests per day

        Something somehow sounds too small and does not sound very realistic. There were some kind of express tests. In Estonia, now they do something about this somewhere, and at the peak they did about 2000 a day, and we have a population about 7 times less than in Belarus, in Russia the pace of testing was also no less, at the peak I did not compare, but when I looked the number of tests per capita was several times greater than ours.
  6. +3
    10 May 2020 14: 44
    They do not seem to understand this.
  7. +5
    10 May 2020 14: 47
    The ratio of cases and deaths in relation to the population of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus is approximately equal. Only now we have had more than a month and a half of "self-isolation", fines, ruin of small and medium-sized businesses, rising unemployment, financial losses of the population and a subsiding economy.
    1. +8
      10 May 2020 14: 51
      We also have tests for one hundred thousand people a hundred times more, but these are trifles, right?
      1. D16
        +6
        10 May 2020 15: 12
        We also have tests for one hundred thousand people a hundred times more, but these are trifles, right?

        So. It’s all about nothing. The number of hospitalized and how many of them died is important. And how much these figures differ from annual seasonal indicators.
      2. +1
        10 May 2020 15: 13
        Quote: AllBiBek
        We also have tests for one hundred thousand people a hundred times more, but these are trifles, right?

        Please give a link to your data. Otherwise, it is called balabolism.
        1. +5
          10 May 2020 15: 59
          Here's the link. See, analyze ...
          https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
          1. +6
            10 May 2020 16: 45
            Quote: AllBiBek
            We also have tests for one hundred thousand people a hundred times more, but these are trifles, right?

            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Please give a link to your data. Otherwise, it is called balabolism.

            Quote: Brancodd
            Here's the link. See, analyze ...
            https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

            We look at your link, we see: the number of tests on 1 млн population:
            USA 26965
            Россия 37335
            Canada 28297
            Belarus 27890

            Be careful, henceforth. hi
            1. +1
              10 May 2020 17: 53
              What is attentive? I did not indicate my position on this issue. I just gave a link to a resource that I myself use.
              But if you designate, I can say that my relatives in Minsk very quickly changed their mood. Like that:
              February is nonsense.
              March is a world conspiracy, it does not concern us
              The first half of April is just flu. Everyone needs to get sick.
              The second half of April - expressed concern about the situation. Russia does not help
              May is a panic. The registries are not up to the challenge. More and more acquaintances are infected. Officially, while most of the diagnoses are SARS.
              Probably the next stage - Russia is to blame
              1. +9
                10 May 2020 18: 48
                Well, there’s no panic. I myself live in Minsk, I go to work every day. I go to work at 40/50 companies every day, which are state. That’s bourgeois. There’s nothing that you write in polyclinics, in banks, or .. .., well, no where.
                1. -1
                  10 May 2020 21: 47
                  I don’t give a damn about the situation in Sweden. And in Belarus do not care. If my relatives are mistaken, and you are right, then I will only be glad.
                  The only thing I would like to note. This thing turned out to be quite biting. If it turned out that he was in intensive care, then a significant probability is not to get out of it at all. The peculiarity of the course of the disease in Russia is a large percentage of young people with a severe form. So in Belarus too. it is possible.
                  Take care of yourself, especially considering the specifics of your work.
                  1. -2
                    11 May 2020 12: 51
                    Thank you for your wishes, but apparently, due to my age, I live according to the principle "who is destined to drown, do not hang yourself"
                    I use PPE without fail, because daily are issued (gloves, masks, disinf.s-va)
                2. -3
                  10 May 2020 22: 57
                  Sklendarka. I also live in Minsk, when you get sick, sign off. You are our fearless!
                  1. -2
                    11 May 2020 12: 54
                    By all means, I even decided what should be written on the urn with my ashes- was born in 1959, quit smoking in .....
      3. +2
        10 May 2020 15: 14
        Quote: AllBiBek
        We also have tests for one hundred thousand people a hundred times more, but these are trifles, right?

        What country are you talking about now? )))
      4. -1
        10 May 2020 15: 23
        Quote: AllBiBek
        We also have tests for one hundred thousand people a hundred times more, but these are trifles, right?

        Can you indicate in numbers?
    2. +2
      10 May 2020 15: 06
      and don’t specify yet the coefficient of the tests performed, among the Turkmens the virus was canceled in general
  8. 0
    10 May 2020 14: 47
    Why wasn’t Kolya?
    1. +1
      10 May 2020 22: 02
      Golden pistol lost.
  9. -1
    10 May 2020 14: 48
    Courage - takes the city, cowardice is the path to the curse.
    Honor and praise to the President of Belarus, shame and shame for the president of Russia.
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    2. +5
      10 May 2020 15: 04
      Courage and stupidity are two different things. Holding mass events in the current conditions is just stupid.
      1. -5
        10 May 2020 15: 05
        Recall about chickens in the fall .....
        1. +4
          10 May 2020 15: 06
          Of course. In a couple of weeks it will be seen.
    3. +4
      10 May 2020 15: 26
      Quote: prior
      Honor and praise to the President of Belarus, shame and shame for the president of Russia.

      It seems that Belarusians are looking through the looking glass for the right things, you can’t argue, they press on feelings that they could not do otherwise, that they are obliged to do this to the heroes of the war, everything is right and must and must. But why doesn’t the holding of the parade consider the power of Belarus a betrayal to their ancestors, and kissing in a hickey with Bandera, who burned not one of Khatyn, is not a betrayal. How to understand all this.
      1. 0
        10 May 2020 22: 03
        There is such a disease, mosaic psychopathy.
    4. 0
      10 May 2020 16: 36
      courage? it seems to me banal show-offs and stupidity
    5. +4
      10 May 2020 17: 51
      The guarantor and his company have their own affairs. We do not need them.
  10. VLR
    +18
    10 May 2020 14: 56
    In general, this parade can be viewed as a challenge and even a slap in the face to Putin - Lukashenko and Belarus are now associated with the main defenders of the memory of the Great Patriotic War and claim to be the main heirs of the Victory. Putin speaks the usual words of duty, unable to protect the monuments of Soviet soldiers abroad and practically not reacting to the antics and sabbaths of the Nazis in the former "fraternal republics" and the CMEA countries, cancels the parade on a "round date" and, fearing infection, does not appear in public ... Lukashenka “makes” and demonstrates a connection with the people - both with veterans and with young people.
    1. +22
      10 May 2020 15: 11
      this parade can be seen as a challenge

      It seems that your words make sense. Otherwise, you cannot understand why the evening news on Russian channels did not even mention the Victory Parade in Minsk. We talked about Central Asia, Azerbaijan, and foreign countries. But not a word about Belarus!
      1. +1
        10 May 2020 16: 00
        Looked at the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNnnBfNoqPY, This is a Parade in Minsk. But more interesting are the reviews of the people who watched it.
        1. +8
          10 May 2020 17: 52
          That's for sure! If the guarantor has a conscience, then after reading them, he, as a former officer, must shoot himself.
  11. +8
    10 May 2020 15: 01
    Quote: AllBiBek
    We also have tests for one hundred thousand people a hundred times more, but these are trifles, right?

    Where is "with us"? In Altai, about 2% of the population has been tested. Do you have figures for RB?
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  12. +11
    10 May 2020 15: 01
    I think Rygorich would answer them in his “sovereign” style. laughing
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    1. +1
      10 May 2020 15: 16
      Quote: Irek
      Baska does not work, what's his name? Butska Lukash.

      Do you think your head is working?
      1. +6
        10 May 2020 17: 59
        with a capital letter .. it was superfluous. he is not worth it.
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  15. +2
    10 May 2020 15: 04
    look for a black cat in a dark room ... it's not about Lukashenko ...
  16. +9
    10 May 2020 15: 10
    Quote: prior
    Courage - takes the city, cowardice is the path to the curse.
    Honor and praise to the President of Belarus, shame and shame for the president of Russia.

    Tell me, Vlad, well, purely theoretically.
    Of the former Soviet republics, only Belarus and Tajikistan held parades. At the same time, the Tajik Minister of Health thanks Uzbekistan for help in the fight against the crown. Do you see the logic? Me not.

    Next, here you write that honor and praise to the president of Belarus and shame and shame to the president of Russia. What about the presidents of other republics? Armenia, Azerbaijan, the same Georgia, the states of Central Asia. They are also shame and shame ???
    And the last one. Right now, Belarus has 22052 officially sick people with 126 dead. If, God forbid, in a couple of weeks they will have a jump and the number of cases will not be 22 thousand, but for example 40 thousand or 50. With a significantly increased mortality as a result of the parade and the absence of quarantine measures, You will also give honor and praise to the President of Belarus??
    This one is not the one that takes cities. This courage is pure window dressing and an attempt to show that in the celebration of Victory Day he is holier than the Pope. The holiday has passed. There was not only a parade and, accordingly, crowds of people with all the attendant opportunities. Is that cowardice? For this shame and shame?
    Or sanity?
    1. -1
      10 May 2020 15: 26
      It is enough to test the participants of the parade in order to minimize the risk of the spread of infection.
      May 9 is the only day of the year, the parade is the only event of the year when we honor the dead front-line soldiers, the surviving veterans of the greatest of Victories.
      It is impossible to imagine that the war veterans in 1941 refused to defend Moscow against the threat of a cold or pneumonia due to severe frosts. Or in 1945 they refused to take Berlin because of the threat of being killed in the last days of the war.
      Fear of contracting the virus has won us respect for the memory of the fallen.
      Vlasovites in the Kremlin imposed a policy of betrayal throughout the country.
      Everything else is beautiful verbiage, in my opinion.
      1. +5
        10 May 2020 15: 39
        If veterans become infected, for them it will be the last parade.
        1. 0
          10 May 2020 15: 47
          It is not necessary to bring veterans from all over the country to Red Square; each veteran can be televised with 50-60 inches on television, let them rejoice at home. The issue of organization.
      2. -1
        10 May 2020 15: 44
        Quote: prior
        It is enough to test the participants of the parade in order to minimize the risk of the spread of infection.

        Testing the parade participants in advance is an absolutely competent decision!
        I think that is exactly what was done in Belarus.
        For the naive in this regard in the leadership of R. Belarus is not!
        1. +1
          10 May 2020 15: 57
          In the Republic of Belarus, no one has tested the parade participants or guests for coronavirus. Because “coronavirus is a psychosis”, “nobody died from coronavirus in Belarus” and other pearls of Lukashenka.
    2. 0
      10 May 2020 18: 37
      What about the presidents of other republics? Armenia, Azerbaijan, the same Georgia, the states of Central Asia. They are also shame and shame ???

      Others await WHO's go-ahead and Wall Street teams to muzzle
  17. +5
    10 May 2020 15: 20
    And I think that even if there is a "flash", the Belarusians will say: "But we are great! We were not afraid! We were stronger than everyone else! We did it!" Well, if there is no sharp increase in the incidence, then in general ... they have the right to turn up their noses.
    1. -1
      13 May 2020 10: 25
      even if there is a flash no one will know about it
  18. +1
    10 May 2020 15: 22
    Quote: Karaul20
    Quote: Chingachguk
    Your Lukashenko is a strange person. He claims that the Second World War is not a war of Belarus and that Belarus suffered because of Russians
    And what are Putin’s statements that the RSFSR supposedly could have cope with the Reich without other republics? They stand each other, that Putin, that Lukashenko.

    when and where did he say this ???
    1. +1
      10 May 2020 15: 34
      "Now about our relations with Ukraine. Let me disagree with you when you just said that if we were divided, we would not have won the war. We would have won anyway, because we are a country of victors," he said he, answering a question from one of the Russians.

      According to Putin, statistics from the Second World War show that the RSFSR suffered the greatest losses - more than 70%.

      "This means that the war has been won, I do not want to offend anyone, at the expense of the industrial resources of the Russian Federation. This is a historical fact, this is all in the documents,"
      1. +2
        10 May 2020 18: 18
        Quote: Mimoprohodil
        "Now about our relations with Ukraine. Let me disagree with you when you just said that if we were divided, we would not have won the war. We would have won anyway, because we are a country of victors," he said he, answering a question from one of the Russians.

        According to Putin, statistics from the Second World War show that the RSFSR suffered the greatest losses - more than 70%.

        "This means that the war has been won, I do not want to offend anyone, at the expense of the industrial resources of the Russian Federation. This is a historical fact, this is all in the documents,"

        The war was won by the Soviet Union, where there were 15 republics and all these republics worked and fought together.
  19. +6
    10 May 2020 15: 36
    Well done comrade Lukashenko that held a parade. He would have supported the holding of the parade on November 1941 in 7. I am sure!
    And it is better for the Dutch to once again measure the sea level and go about their business, for example, to continue growing tulips on balconies, otherwise half the territory of the country is not known from what, and they teach others how to live and what to do there.
  20. +9
    10 May 2020 16: 02
    Quote: prior
    It is enough to test the participants of the parade in order to minimize the risk of the spread of infection.

    Do you know that to get 100% of the test result, you need to conduct more than one test? And what are asymptomatic patients? And the time between tests is also not one day? It's easy to risk the lives of others. It’s difficult

    Quote: prior
    May 9 is the only day of the year, the parade is the only event of the year when we honor the dead front-line soldiers, the surviving veterans of the greatest of Victories.

    That is, according to your logic, then since there is no parade, there is no honor for front-line soldiers.
    For information.
    The 1st parade was, as you know, June 26, 1945.
    The 2nd Victory Parade was on May 9, 1965.
    The 3rd Victory Parade was May 9, 1985
    The 4rd Victory Parade was May 9, 1990
    The 5th Victory Parade was on May 9, 1995. And only after this year the parades became annual. I am very sorry that the honor of the front soldiers, the living and the dead, is associated only with the Victory Parade. That is, there is no parade - no celebration? So what?
    Me not. I congratulate and honor the veteran father regardless of whether there is a Victory Parade or not. Honoring doesn't have to be an "event". tied specifically to the Parade. Otherwise, it becomes a "tick event"

    Quote: prior
    It is impossible to imagine that the war veterans in 1941 refused to defend Moscow against the threat of a cold or pneumonia due to severe frosts. Or in 1945 they refused to take Berlin because of the threat of being killed in the last days of the war.

    No need to make jokes, comrade. There is no need to equate the war, when everything, except for the defense of the Fatherland, goes to the second or third third plan and a peaceful life. War mobilizes such latent forces of the body that all these "colds" simply do not affect a person. My father repeatedly said that for days they were in overcoats soaked through and in a flash in a gun trench knee-deep in water and did not take anything.
    Here is completely different. To risk the life and health of thousands of fighters and thousands, and even tens of thousands of spectators - for what? To show your toughness? Moreover, the parade has not been canceled. Yes, and the veterans themselves met his transfer with understanding.

    Quote: prior
    Fear of contracting the virus has won us respect for the memory of the fallen.

    Who won? You? I do not have. And the concert team, which arrived yesterday to congratulate the father and another veteran (woman) in our house, too, had no fear. We arrived in masks, got up close to the entrance at a distance of about 3-4 meters and spoke for half an hour. The soldiers of the military unit, who came to congratulate their father on May 8, also had no fear. Representatives of the school, social services, the district administration and the governor also had no fear. Everyone understands that in order not to be even worse, some measures must be taken. But for some, the cancellation (transfer of the Parade) has become almost synonymous with the fact that there is no parade - there is no celebration ...
    1. +4
      10 May 2020 17: 03
      Quote: Old26
      It's easy to risk the lives of others. It’s difficult

      It is worth noting that Lukashenko risked his own - the bunker was not hiding hi .
  21. +6
    10 May 2020 16: 05
    Quote: Egoza
    And I think that even if there is a "flash", the Belarusians will say: "But we are great! We were not afraid! We were stronger than everyone else! We did it!" Well, if there is no sharp increase in the incidence, then in general ... they have the right to turn up their noses.

    I think that the adequate will not say this, especially if tens or hundreds of people end up in hospital beds. There is nothing to be proud of, that in an epidemic, someone will boast of not being afraid. especially if they are in hospital beds, if not themselves, then their relatives ...
  22. +1
    10 May 2020 16: 26
    And the Russians, in my opinion, were silent about this event?
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    2. -3
      10 May 2020 17: 02
      Quote: 30143
      And the Russians, in my opinion, were silent about this event?

      No, Solovechik write the text ...
  23. +1
    10 May 2020 17: 40
    “But what about the“ crown ”?”

    The crown, but not the virus, is with Putin, but in Belarus on May 9 and a parade. Everything is as it should be.
  24. +5
    10 May 2020 18: 02
    Quote: Chingachguk
    Your Lukashenko is a strange person. Either he declares that the Second World War is not a war in Belarus and that Belarus suffered because of the Russians, then he conducts parades and all kinds of action for Victory in the very virus ... Yes, Putin does not speak loudly, does not squeal that he is constantly being tipped ... ... It will be more expensive to "tilt" Putin .......

    And why so blatantly lie? When Old Man said that Belarus suffered because of the Russians in the Second World War? But for these things, sir, they beat officers in the face as officers. Brothers Belarusians, do not pay attention to the bot, we Russians love and respect you very much!
  25. 0
    10 May 2020 18: 14
    I think that globalist Satanists will recall Lukashenko that he did not dance to their tune. He did not succumb to mental infection with a baranovirus and did not bomb his economy. Putin also pushed away from his favorite holiday. We are waiting soon for news about sanctions on the Republic of Belarus, and from all sides.
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  27. +1
    10 May 2020 18: 53
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    I’ll tell you about Belarusian medicine. Woman, 47 years old, nurse at school. In the death certificate according to the hospital: pneumonia, cerebral edema (!), Death from a stroke. No checks were made on the crown (there are none in the city, and the result from the regional center in a week at best), they were not connected to mechanical ventilation (because there are three devices in the hospital, and in the whole city there are 220 thousand people, at best, a dozen) .

    You better roll to your relatives in Bobruisk before writing your fantasies. There are no cities in the Republic of Belarus with a population of 220 people. Write ischo, sofa analyst.
    1. 0
      10 May 2020 20: 16
      Igor, that’s what Bobruisk meant, now there are somewhere around 120000 inhabitants.
      1. 0
        10 May 2020 21: 28
        Guilty, 220000 people.
  28. 0
    10 May 2020 20: 00
    Correspondent de Volkskrant Tom Wannink in his article raises the question “What about the“ crown ”?”

    But it’s very simple: say that there is no virus and that’s all
  29. -1
    10 May 2020 20: 29
    In Russia, May 9 was canceled and the Americans immediately took advantage of this! It turns out that they defeated fascism!
    It should be held on any parade on November 7, to remind the adversary!
  30. 0
    10 May 2020 20: 32
    The press of the Netherlands about the parade in Belarus: But what about the "Crown"


    And the crown of Lukashenko does not press. Prepares it for Nicholas - III.
  31. -3
    10 May 2020 21: 07
    I heard in Belarus if they are against the policy of a tractor driver? Something reminds me very much ......
    1. 0
      10 May 2020 21: 20
      It seems to be reminiscent of being bathed and planted by opponents of KGB politics. You do nefig? Then you will talk about respect.
    2. -2
      10 May 2020 23: 04
      Even as they plant, especially the last week. Elections on the nose however! Give 31 years to the Power,
    3. +1
      11 May 2020 07: 41
      Doctors, be against, but do not break the laws ...
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    -1
    10 May 2020 21: 32
    Moving the subway, I think, is equal to several Minsk parades.
  33. 0
    10 May 2020 22: 06
    Quote: HAM
    A person is such a creature - only then realizes the danger when he is in intensive care ... it is others who are ill - fools ... in the end: "but what am I for?"
    Lukashenko is just a stubborn ho hol ...... he’s not sorry for himself, so at least I would regret the old people ...
  34. 0
    10 May 2020 22: 06
    But what kind of misunderstandings in Belarus with the "Immortal Regiment" constantly? This year it was canceled due to the coronavirus.
    1. -1
      11 May 2020 08: 57
      Country of origin of the stock does not suit ...
  35. +2
    11 May 2020 09: 35
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    I’ll tell you about Belarusian medicine. Woman, 47 years old, nurse at school. In the death certificate according to the hospital: pneumonia, cerebral edema (!), Death from a stroke. No checks were made on the crown (there are none in the city, and the result from the regional center in a week at best), they were not connected to mechanical ventilation (because there are three devices in the hospital, and in the whole city there are 220 thousand people, at best, a dozen) .

    What's so unusual about that? Or do you think that it is the presence of the virus itself that leads to illness and death? I'm already tired of explaining to my friends and acquaintances that the virus causes the very "atypical" pneumonia, which has been written about for many years, and causes people with a predisposition to it. For different reasons. But for some reason, until now, no one cared about it. And now the final schizophrenia has begun, when people stir up panic of each other and go completely crazy. All doctors were thrown into the "fight" with this virus, although what exactly this fight consists of - I do not understand. I'll tell you right away - my wife is a virologist, my mother works in the laboratory of a TB dispensary. I am aware of the situation in hospitals. That is why it annoys me that people in muzzles, often moved below the nose or on the chin, hang around the streets, hoping to protect themselves from a virus about 300 microns in size with their help. I'm not even talking about the myths and legends about the virus, which have long surpassed the tales of ancient Greece. It was especially unusual to hear that all the corpses (and there were apparently hundreds and hundreds of them) are taken to the Ice Palace, since it is cold there and can be stored for a long time. And one of my acquaintances said that the mask protects one hundred percent from everything, as one blogger said. Finita. The curtain.
    1. +1
      11 May 2020 10: 31
      So there was an "activist" video. He travels around Vitebsk and comments, they say, but our Ice Palace will be brought here the corpses of those killed from the coronavirus. Of course, everyone is tired of AHL and we need to change something, but our opposition is something.
  36. +2
    11 May 2020 10: 01
    I watched the parade in Minsk and rejoiced with all my heart. Thanks to the Belarusians!
    Lukashenko’s controversy also struck wonderful.
    "The eyes of those who died for our salvation are looking at us."
    If you were scared from some kind of not-so-dangerous virus from which only every ten of them get sick and only a few percent of those who die get killed. If my mothers were frightened of this and stood locking the house, like a prisoner on Victory Day, then nothing and my inability to protect. Will the epidemics be worse than this and will we always cancel the parade?
    What is the concern for people here? If people care so much, ban passenger cars, tobacco and alcohol.
    A person must decide for himself whether he is afraid or not, to take risks or not. The veterans didn’t drive them to parade, but for many of them its cancellation is much worse than the virus.
    1. 0
      11 May 2020 19: 32
      I agree ... two deaths will not happen, and one cannot be avoided. Another thing is that newfangled banners are some kind of nonsense. The Winners' banners are red. "Banners fluttered like the last wounds, dashing squadrons of the Amur partisans marched!" (C)
  37. -1
    11 May 2020 19: 31
    Nothing, we will revive another holiday "Victory Day over Japan" on September 3 ... Although it was possible to hold the parade not in Moscow, but at whatever training ground, having gathered there veterans, there are so few of them left.

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