Former US Ambassador: Putin has replaced the fragile democracy of Russia in the 1990s with a strong autocracy

The Western publication Foreign Policy (USA) published material dedicated to the 20th anniversary of the assumption of Vladimir Putin as president of the Russian Federation.

The FP material says that over 20 years in the top posts of Russia, Vladimir Putin has strengthened his power. Also, as stated, he increased the role of Russia in the international arena.

From the material:

And now, when Moscow is preparing the way for Putin to govern the country until 2036, he can become a permanent leader against the background of the fact that he is already considered one of the most powerful heads of state of our time.

The material with reference to experts presents various points of view on the activities of Vladimir Putin at the helm of the state.

A statement is made, for example, of the former US ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul. He says that "Putin and Putinism have influenced Russia and its place in the modern world."

Michael McFaul:

Putin has replaced Russia's fragile democracy of the 1990s with a strong autocracy. Putin instills conservative ideas of Orthodoxy and nationalism.

The opinion of expert Angela Stent is that under Putin, Russia returned as a global player, while becoming rigidly centralized and authoritarian. Stent calls Putin’s politics a judoka’s policy.

From the material:

He masterfully showed how to use the opportunities provided to him by the split and confused West.

Comments

[Incvizitor]

Still, the autocracy would be really strong, and even then, the code of liberals against the Russian Federation stinks and they don’t have anything for it.

[Basil50]

The American blew, for his own, American rams, and they are discussing with us.
Anything can bleat, tweet, and I can, or rather what they need, it doesn’t concern us at all.
It is an urgent need for them to lie to their own electorate, well, not to admit to actually launching wars around the world and creating, and then feeding, arming outright bandits under different signs.
The reasoning about * autocracy * is striking with a frank misunderstanding of what is behind this term.
For those who do not understand, it is useful to read about the Grand Dukes and how they frankly robbed even officers of the RUSSIAN ARMY, or how the RUSSIAN EMPERIAL FLEET was robbed. And all this has been going on for more than one year. Yes, a lot of things pop up when reading memories.

[hagen]

Quote: Deck

Don't like what the American said? Well, he also does not care about your opinion.

Do you, American, have revealed the Truth? However, it is worth noting that the whole world does not give a damn about your opinion ... But you have it, express it, and nobody is pressing you for it. At home, McFaul is excommunicated for this. And you weren’t even banned.

[mikh-korsakov]

Andrew! I agree. In fact, it turned out some strange hybrid. In fact, the facts refute Putin’s strong power. He maneuvers all the time between the domestic and comprador bourgeoisie and their clientele. He gives orders to Alekseev and Lanovoy, lays a wreath in Katyn, although from the point of view of the patriots there is a lot of ambiguity, and at the same time makes loud statements about the inadmissibility of rewriting history, while causing the cries of liberals. A strong ruler, like Stalin, allowed only one point of view - the correct one from his point of view. At the same time, or from this ?, the country got out of military ruin in five to seven years, even despite the idiocy of the ignorant Lysenko type. Putin got lost in three pines, and the country wanders with him. He takes an unprecedentedly bold step, reuniting Crimea with Russia and after that starts a song about the fraternal people, freely allowing, and even sanctioning the final departure of Ukraine from the Russian world. In a calm time, he began to implement national projects, persuading his ministers for two years. that they don’t have time for buildup, and they swayed for two years, until trouble came. IMHO. Putin is neither strong nor weak. but not that, ri sho.

[Basil50]

Korsakov
Do not trust Khrushchev’s enemies and the enemies of his followers.
The Babylonian theory of genetics does not have a relation to the real theory. In addition, he left most of the seeds collected around the world in Norway, despite the fact that the entire expedition was paid for by the Soviet Union.
This LYSENKO created stations throughout the Soviet Union to develop new varieties of wheat, cotton and much more.

[mikh-korsakov]

Dmitry, he's Vasily! He organized the stations, and it was probably cool. but he worked in the forties and fifties. The molecular mechanism of heredity had already been discovered, which raised questions of selection on modern rails, but molecular biology, and at the same time, quantum mechanics, with his participation, were declared pseudoscience. This is annoying.

[hydrox]

Is there any sense now to talk about this when the agricultural heritage of the Union is completely plundered? Now you just need to RESTORE broodstock, breeding units, variety testing plots, feed production to the level of need, yes with a margin, seed funds with the corresponding elevators and sorting storages - and there’s a lot of things FROM ZERO !!!

[Basil50]

The term * genetics * and what is meant by this does not have a relation to Vavilov, he argued directly opposite to what is generally accepted today.
Lysenko’s works are still based on breeding and not only plants.
Vavilov was noted in denunciations of opponents, in contrast to the same LYSENKO
Under Joseph VISSARIONOVICH STALIN including science they demanded at least some kind of bestowal or a consistent theory. Boltologists were forced to serve those who at least did something.
As an example, one can cite Academician KURCHATOV and a whole bunch of theorists proving the impossibility of either controlled nuclear decay, much less the opportunity to master nuclear energy in the Soviet Union.
About how * rotten * science and scientists we know from the words of Khrushchev and his lackeys. By the way, Khrushchev personally launched frankly abusive * cartoons *, did not hesitate.
All is worth it - to read the historians, not the populists.

[mikh-korsakov]

Dmitry! It's hard to argue with genetics - not a specialist. But about Kurchatov? Do not understand? Are you talking about Igor Vasilievich Kurchatov? Are you talking about the head of work on the creation in 1946 of the first nuclear reactor in the USSR in Moscow? Is he a theorist, a boltologist? When we were still studying, the old people who were involved in the production of plutonium taught us. Someone with a cheek burned with rays, some without a finger. Then even plainly about the action of the rays did not know. They worked under the leadership of Kurchatov, the father of the nuclear bomb. Calling Beria such wrong. Beria was the head of the supply department.

[Sergej1972]

Do you even know that under Khrushchev Lysenko was praised even more than under Stalin? Reappraisal of his activities began under Brezhnev.

[Basil50]

KURCHATOVA cited as an example how a scientist managed, forced even boltologists to work on the final result.
The fact that LYSENKO supported Khrushchev as well as KURCHATOV, KOROLEV, ALEKSEEV and many other true scientists, it was for that. In addition to the theory and practical results, they could present them.

[Sergej1972]

And then "Khrushchev" lies? Khrushchev treated Lysenko even better than Stalin.

[hydrox]

Dear Michael!
It is impossible to be equally savvy and capable in absolutely all sciences, for different sciences different matrices of the device of the thinking apparatus (MM) are needed.
Putin has grown immensely on what?
On an intrigue, on an excellent mnoghodovka of the highest level, which all contemporaries envied with him! And this matrix was good on the external diplomatic front (all the more so in the presence of such mastodon diplomats as Lavrov and Churkin, who had MM in the same series as the GDP.
When the time came to deal with internal affairs, he was dipped headlong on Wednesday, filled with fragments of liberal matrices, among which there was NOT A WORKER, but all were thieves.
And since no one taught the Soviet-style economy to GDP (with a paternalistic lining!), It is clear that under the influence of the MM’s liberate, GDP that does not have a fundamental economic content (NOT ECONOMICS!) Immediately began to fail, which caused the first hole in social policy - pension reform. At the same time, another giant jamb of liberoids got out - healthcare optimization (the second hole!), The correction of which, when the coronavirus invaded, already pulled several trillions of dollars (or rubles?) From the nest egg - they don’t confess !!
Well, the cherry was all the moldy corruption that turned the country's ship into a sieve that was about to sink, although very many were talking about some fresh wind that would take the liberde out of power - would you see how the GDP pencil rolled on the table , completely not listening to the reports of the ministers - and I thought that it was good for Pr-wu to work remotely - no firearm could get them to Mr. Putin!

[mikh-korsakov]

Hydrox In principle, I am about the same. Tacked, tacked, but did not catch. But I am far from counting. that the ship is about to sink. For this reason, the Russian people did not disappear, because with their ability to survive in any conditions, even Western enemies are surprised. In one I do not agree with you - this is about the death of Russian health care - to paraphrase a well-known proverb - optimized, optimized, but not over-optimized. Not so long ago, I had a simple retiree suffered a rather serious heart attack. I live in a town on the shore of the Federal Law. The ambulance arrived quickly. they performed an ECG, called for intensive care, were taken to our city hospital, three hours later they had an operation, and a day later I got up and could take care of myself. I am grateful to the doctors who pulled out. So it’s survivable and health care.

[major147]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

In one I do not agree with you - this is on the issue of the death of Russian health care

A year ago, my wife was diagnosed with a rather severe blood cancer (the name is so tricky that I cannot remember). We were quickly assigned to a specialized department for treatment, so as there was just a renovation going on, my wife and I decided not to leave her in the hospital, but to bring her in the morning and take her home in the evening. True, they drove far away for several months, but coped with their sons. Result - I changed my job to one that is easier and continues to work (now on vacation because of Covid), a recent blood test showed an excellent (pah-pah-pah) result. For the entire time of treatment she did not pay a dime, and even the attending physician and nurses refused to "thank". They prescribed her an expensive medicine, she gets it for free at the pharmacy, and offered to bring her home for free, but we refused.
A similar situation recently happened with a short-range relative. And everything is "clear" there.

[hydrox]

You were lucky, you scraped it out on Soviet remnants - not everyone succeeds and not everyone lives in civilizations.
And as for the ship ... so no one even says that the prudence of the GDP is completely gone - this pencil from 08.05.20/XNUMX/XNUMX at the meeting of the Pr-va ... I think that the liberda will not survive in power until the end of the center - but WHERE he will take so many pros to correct the situation ???
But without social and economic reform, the ship will surely sink!

[Sergej1972]

By the way, Belousov is considered a supporter of strengthening the state in the economy.

[hydrox]

You understood this correctly, but you cannot create the Pr-in with one Belousov: you need Khazin, Glazyev, Boldyrev, Katasonov with Delyagin, and Starikov with Gerashchenko ... and many more can be found on a large number of political and economic talk show: clever Nadana Friedrichson with ORT, Abzalov, Morozov, Parfyonov, Sazonova, Daniuk, Olevich, Timofeev, Solovyov, Mikheev, Kulikov, Norkin ... these are people who only need to set a task - they will dump out options for solving it in batches and there will surely be pearl grain and not one - they just have the right foundation: that social-paternalistic stove from which to dance.

[Sergej1972]

But if you carefully read or listen to the listed people, you can see that on many issues their points of view contradict each other. And not the fact that most of them will turn out to be normal managers. And some cause antipathy because of their manner of behavior, etc.

[hydrox]

When reformatting the economic and political system, nobody will be interested in our affections or sympathies with antipathies.
At the forefront will be professionalism, the ability to think independently, the pursuit of career growth and honesty.

[Alf]

Quote: hydrox

When reformatting the economic and political system, nobody will be interested in our affections or sympathies with antipathies.
At the forefront will be professionalism, the ability to think independently, the pursuit of career growth and honesty.

Under the IVS, anti-advisers Rall and Zeldovich also worked. And they worked, and they were awarded with prizes. IVS had only one selection criterion - professional suitability.

[Alf]

Quote: hydrox

WHERE will he take so many pros to rectify the situation ???

But did he himself disperse them all? The famous phrase nikolashki-Do not obscure me, fits the system of his rule simply perfect. The phrase Smart is not needed, faithful is needed, did it appear from scratch?

[hydrox]

PS. In the comment we are talking about a remote meeting of the Pr-va from 08.05.20/XNUMX/XNUMX.
So Putin has no more than 2-3 weeks left to think.

[knn54]

Montesquieu; Every nation deserves its ruler. Let's say the government.
And what kind of government, such and such a life. A vicious circle?
Looking at events in the Russian Federation and in Ukraine, I recall the dictum of the German publicist Karl Emil Frankos: Every country has the kind of Jews it deserves.
And talk about some kind of dictate is not worth it. Even the Secretary General of the CPSU was limited by the Politburo.
Under Putin, others came, and Berezovsky and other fugitive inhabitants of London, who considered themselves superior to the State, are forced to give up their place at the "trough". Therefore, anger.

[Alf]

Quote: knn54

Under Putin, others came, and Berezovsky and other fugitive inhabitants of London, who considered themselves superior to the State, were forced to give up their place at the "trough".

Only for the state this did not play a big role. They drove these pigs from the feeder, others came.

[Herman 4223]

It is immediately clear that you are not a stupid person, once you notice awkward contradictions, the almighty king is trying to maneuver for some reason. This is strange, why?
There is one interesting video on this subject.
Shedding a little light on what is happening in the country.
https://youtu.be/0YUybzmpwxE

[Irokez]

Quote: Herman 4223

https://youtu.be/0YUybzmpwxE

Here I have long been running the thought that this coronavirus was launched, in order to postpone the heading for a change in the Constitution of the Russian Federation or even steal it.

[Herman 4223]

If, rather, to create conditions incompatible with the life of Russia. The goal of the collapse of the economy, and the pursuit of Russia as a state.

[Dart2027]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

He maneuvers all the time between the domestic and comprador bourgeoisie and their clientele.

Any person who will be in his place will do the same. A ruler, a president, he or a king, is just a person and depends on other people.

Quote: mikh-korsakov

A strong ruler, like Stalin, allowed only one point of view - the correct one from his point of view. At the same time, or from this ?, the country got out of military ruin in five to seven years

Well, then, as soon as he died (not the fact that without help) how it all went down the drain. If the ruler closes everything on himself, then after his death, the collapse always begins.

[mikh-korsakov]

DART2007 / No one doubts the need for advisers. The point is both in quality and in the number of tips. However, there is a line when pragmatism turns into unscrupulousness. Then they get a slap on the right. and to the left. But the leader determines the resultant. The resultant of equal multidirectional vectors is zero QED /

[Dart2027]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

No one doubts the need for advisers.

I do not mean advisers. In any state there are certain groups united by common interests, let’s say, and this is a natural process. You can try to completely suppress them, or you can build a balance of certain compromises.

[mikh-korsakov]

DART That is, you mean parties. But batches are not grown in incubators, this is a lengthy process. LDPR - the party, yes, the LDPR is the brainchild of the CPSU. But are they capable of anything more than lobbying for the interests of any groups of capitalists? I don’t think so.

[Dart2027]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

That is, you mean parties.

No, not parties. Different "interest groups" can unite in one party, but they will retain their personal interests. There are, for example, the elite of the special services, there are the military, and there are various groups of business oligarchs who own huge fortunes.
I have repeatedly cited the example of the United States - presidents, senators, congressmen, etc. are changing, but politics does not change.

[mikh-korsakov]

Dart. Just in the desire of the leader to surround himself with smart like-minded people I do not see anything shameful. Stupid is that leader. who will surround himself with enemies. Therefore, with irony, I relate to statements that Putin surrounded himself with people he knew who he trusts. This is normal. What I don't like is pragmatism, which has turned into unscrupulousness and lies. Who spoke. that while he is president, there will be no increase in the retirement age. I am sure that he personally understood what a blow to his prestige. which means that the leadership reform as a whole will be affected by pension reform. Yes, the Kremlin has many towers.

[Dart2027]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

What I don't like is pragmatism, which has turned into unscrupulousness and lies.

But in another way, alas, it doesn’t.
Well, I guessed about the future increase in retirement age 20 years ago. This is not irony and not a joke. It’s just that in the 90s we had a terrible demographic hole and no Putin can do anything about it. Perhaps they thought that somehow they could get out, but it did not work out. As you correctly noted, do not understand that

Quote: mikh-korsakov

what a blow to his prestige. which means that the leadership reform as a whole will be affected by pension reform

was impossible.

[orionvitt]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

Putin is neither strong nor weak

The inheritance he got to put it mildly rotten. You can, of course, clean up the liberda (enemies of the people) using Stalin's methods, but it took him almost fifteen years too .. From the mid-20s to the end of the 30s, completing this process with the "great purge". And I don’t even know about Putin’s weakness. Pulling the country out of the swamp of the 90s, out of sheer hopelessness (as it seemed then), without the use of repressive methods, is probably very difficult. Maybe now is the time to cleanse the country for the present. The purge of 37, from the Trotskyists (the then liberda), allowed Stalin to win the Great Patriotic War. Now, in a very dangerous and unstable period of the global crisis, it is high time. Otherwise, the fate of Ukraine.

[Alf]

Quote: orionvitt

Maybe now is the time to clean the country for real.

So what's stopping you? Or adhere to the rule-do not let their own? How many friends did Putin drive away from the helm of the state? For some reason, not a single surname comes to mind.

[mikh-korsakov]

Vitaliy! Putin is not a carrot to please everyone. I do not belong to people. Putin’s ready to swear. I just want to understand and see the absurdity in his politics. And the rest I’m not sympathetic to him, but it’s hard for me to pick up a word, in the style of speech or what? In short, we both grew up in the Leningrad gateways: only I am on Vasilievsky Island, and he is from Baskov. and what a different fate! Not in that gateway I grew up.

[Incvizitor]

He maneuvers because nothing can be done with these capitalists who have seized power since the 90s and no one can here and trying to please everyone, at one time gum and jeans lovers galloped this abomination now has to endure.

[Alf]

Quote: Incvizitor

He maneuvers because there’s nothing he can do with these capitalists who have seized power since the 90s, and no one can try to please everyone,

There is a wonderful argument called 7,62x54. That's why the IVS was not afraid to use it.

[hagen]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

Putin is neither strong nor weak. but not that, ri sho.

Being on a "bump" at the end of the universe from Putin, you give him your unflattering characterization. Those who work directly in contact with him evaluate him somewhat differently. Why would that? Are you just trying to assert yourself with this assessment?

[mikh-korsakov]

Hagen. I'm old to try to assert myself to be original. And about my remoteness and as a result of this ignorance. Here is a quote from B. Brecht "The higher the monkey climbs, the better its butt is visible." Well, you understand, I hope.

[hagen]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

"The higher the monkey climbs, the better its bottom is visible." Well, you understand, I hope.

Putin is not a monkey, at least not more than us. And his ass is much more covered than that of many primates of his rank.

Quote: mikh-korsakov

I am old in order to assert itself in an original way.

And if you appeal to age, it is better to exercise restraint in assessments. And as for self-affirmation, then like in love, all ages are submissive. Well, what was K.K.Rokossovsky intelligent, and he sinned in his memoirs with self-esteem. At least some key things after archival searches have somewhat staggered in authority. As for Putin, in life we ​​are unlikely to find out the true motives of his decisions. And there, after all, as in chess, some serious decisions are achieved by partially surrendering the old positions. Not a single game has been won with the preservation of all its figures. Only stubborn Ukrainians believe in the possibility of achieving victory solely on their own terms without compromise.

[Alf]

Quote: Hagen

Not a single game has been won with the preservation of all its figures.

So you can’t see any victories ...

[hagen]

Quote: Alf

So you can’t see any victories ...

And you take off the mask of the welder. Remember the situation in the early 2000s and compare it with the present. You probably still understood that we were declared war by the Anglo-Saxons. But we are still alive and well-fed.

[Alf]

Quote: Hagen

Remember the situation in the early 2000s and compare it with the present.

And what is the difference? In the number of oligarchs?

[hagen]

Quote: Alf

And what is the difference?

You do not see the difference? Should I continue the conversation?

[businessv]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

He maneuvers all the time between the domestic and comprador bourgeoisie and their clientele.

Well, colleague, you are somehow gently expressing yourself in this matter. The GDP does not maneuver, it fully supports the oligarchs and compradors, but at the same time manages to do things useful for Russia in foreign policy and defending the country, which, of course, is crucial. The most disgusting thing about all this is that this is done exclusively at the expense of the well-being of the people.

[Alf]

Quote: businessv

at the same time manages to do things useful for Russia in foreign policy

Which ones ?

[businessv]

Quote: Alf

Which ones ?

And you yourself will look for resources, you will find many interesting things.

[Alf]

Quote: businessv

Quote: Alf

Which ones ?

And you yourself will look for resources, you will find many interesting things.

Yes, something is not located, can you tell me?

[businessv]

I won't even look for foreign policy - for yourself! And it's superfluous - just read in WIKI, the 90s are described there in sufficient detail, as well as the attitude of the world community towards us. Well, the rest can be found here - from the "partners" of the authorities https://www.ridus.ru/news/316611?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews

[Alf]

Quote: businessv

as is the attitude of the world community towards us.

And now it has not changed a bit.
Yes, there are no successes in foreign policy.

[businessv]

Quote: Alf

Yes, there are no successes in foreign policy.

It's funny! It makes no sense to prove the opposite - I see that it is useless!

[Alf]

Quote: businessv

It makes no sense to prove the opposite - I see that it is useless!

There is a lack of evidence.

[Hyperborean]

Almost 100500% right

[Ros 56]

If Tsar Nikolai used their own methods against the Bolsheviks, autocracy in Russia would probably exist for another thousand years. The question of the result of the Second World War is only in doubt.

[Basil50]

rose
You are simply id ........ from. Nicholas was overthrown by his same entourage.
And then in the RUSSIAN EMPIRE a little less than three hundred years the regime was no easier than the one that the Nazis installed.
In the RUSSIAN EMPIRE, people were trafficked, unwanted people were put to death and, at the whim of their owners, they could do anything at all.

[businessv]

Quote: Vasily50

a little less than three hundred years the regime was no easier than the one that the Nazis installed.

More specifically, please! Write the dates! I am reading your post and I understand that there is such a mess in your head that any chef will envy! Do you even know how many nationalities live in Russia ?! What are you talking about "Hitler's regime" in such a multinational country, and even for 300 years?

Traded in people, unwanted were barred to death

Ek enough! Flogged - yes, there was such a punishment, especially in the army, but it was a long time ago, not to death, and ended in the 19th century. People were more traded in the east and in the States, these people were called slaves. Sometimes look into the school course of Soviet history textbooks, very informative, you know!

[kit88]

If there was neither Nicholas, but Alexander III, but if RI had not left the war six months before its end, and even a winner ...
Looking at the map of 1914, we can imagine that the western borders of the Republic of Ingushetia would still move west.

It is quite possible that the Second World War would not have begun at all.
In short, there are too many ifs.
One thing is clear, Nikolai is a passenger among Russian rulers. He brought the country to civilian life, which then took the whole Stalin 20 years to revive Russia.

[Hypatius]

The question of the result of the Second World War is only in doubt.

Do not doubt! She simply wouldn’t exist, for Hitler designated the threat - the Jewish Bolsheviks (the term is a Jew Goebbels, if that’s for the admin). Ah, in RI there was a Pale of Settlement. Yes, and for the development of military equipment, we were ahead of the rest. Well, maybe besides the fleet.

[hagen]

Quote: Hypatius

Yes, and for the development of military equipment, we were ahead of the rest.

Yes not really? Ek, are you enough? And what is interesting in large-scale quantities of Russian was in the army except the three-ruler? Yes, even cavalry ...

[Hypatius]

Three-ruler is a great thing, like galoshes, so far. After all, they won in the WWI, especially the Turks. Gas masks, Ilya Muromets, experimental rockets .., Sikorsky, Popov, Tsialkovsky ... Further, there is no re-evolutionary devastation. But, here a long argument is possible, I will merge with it, for point in the post: WWII, it just wouldn’t be At least in those dispositions. Rather, then, along with the Aryan brothers, the Anglo-Saxons were piled on, but the world was divided.

[hagen]

Quote: Hypatius

for the main thing in the post: WWII, it just wouldn’t be

Why would it suddenly? Did we kiss the Germans in WWI? Back in 1914, a letter from a group of professors from different universities was published in Germany demanding territorial increments of Germany at the expense of the "eastern territories". "Aryans" are still brothers.

Quote: Hypatius

Gas masks, Ilya Muromets, experimental rockets .., Sikorsky, Popov, Tsialkovsky ...

Yes Sikorsky, Tsiolkovsky and many others. And what about serial production? And everything is not very dense there. And if in terms of capitalization rates we were "ahead of the rest", then this is simply an indicator of a very "low start". We were very far from the level of industrial production in Europe. Despite the fact that there were no plans for the industrialization and reorganization of agriculture in Russia, and they were hardly possible (in the radicalism that the Bolsheviks were able to carry out) with those formational foundations.

[Hypatius]

Well, I say, a debate on the level of assumptions alone is meaningless. Although the statistics of 1913 are not bad, and I was still waiting for the statistics of 2013, but I was apparently scared. The merit of the Bolsheviks (ali communists? - this is from the movie) I do not dispute. I will stay with my own: there would be no WWII, 2MB for sure.

[hagen]

Quote: Hypatius

I will stay with my own: there would be no WWII, 2MB for sure.

Stay. You are not a historian, what is your demand? Your thoughts on the methodology of studying the world historical process is not a hindrance.

[Hypatius]

And if in terms of capitalization rates we were "ahead of the rest", then this is simply an indicator of a very "low start". We were very far from the level of industrial production in Europe.

About agricultural export is also good, like a bunch of other indicators. Statistics 1913 already mentioned. Everything is very controversial and more than one dissertation И

Your thoughts on the methodology of studying the world historical process is not a hindrance.

As, actually, your methodology of the opinion of professors. Everything is very controversial and more than one dissertation First, Trotsky took out the wagons of archives, then Gorbi tried, and it’s not a fact that the process of hiding the source documents has been completed. And reliably, we cannot affirm something about the historical world process (as the truth) ... And to convince, I definitely will not undertake. But the argument for the inevitability of a war with Germany, as the thoughts of the professors, and the supposedly backwardness of the Republic of Ingushetia, is even more unconvincing. IMHO, of course.

[Alf]

Quote: Hypatius

After all, they won in the WWI, especially the Turks.

That's just them and they won ..

[Alf]

Quote: Hypatius

Yes, and for the development of military equipment, we were ahead of the rest.

Motors, tanks, armored cars, aviation ... Bearings, finally, and radio communications ... Such a trifle, a machine gun factory began to be built already in 1916, and even then, Madsen began to build his models somehow even on the horizon was not observed, and the first normal car factory, too, only in 1916 began to build ...
The fleet has a separate song, with obscene chorus. For some reason, Russian naval officers considered the best ships those that were built in the United States and the 2nd Reich.

[hagen]

Quote: Hypatius

Do not doubt! She simply wouldn’t be there, for Hitler designated the threat - the Jewish Bolsheviks (the term is Goebbels Jew, if that’s for the admin)

Read the source and see the main documents, not the excuses for the Anglo-Saxons at the end of the war. Hitler needed resources and territories with a population reduced to a minimum (parties and general movements to the bulb). In MK everything was described long before the war.

[Hypatius]

Read the source and

Well, where are Hitler’s memoirs personally written, they give out?

[hagen]

Quote: Hypatius

Well, where are Hitler’s memoirs personally written, they give out?

I repeat for geniuses - "In MK everything was described long before the war." "MK" could not translate? Hitler has a famous pre-war book called "Mein Kampf"

[Hypatius]

Did Hitler write an article in MK? Access to the source, even Trump does not, a congenial expert.

[Interlocutor]

Understand one simple thing. Better for them to identify latrines than they hide and stink from every corner. By the way, very wise. there are many historical confirmations and proverbs on this subject ...

[orionvitt]

What kind of "autocracy" is this, when everybody is hammering in on the orders of the "tsar". From ministers to parliament and local officials. This is me about the mental level of those who call Putin "tsar", "autocrat", or at worst a "dictator".

[alone]

Quote: Walrus Fang

We do not allow them to rob the peoples of the world in the open

But And what prevents you from stopping the open robbery of your own country and people?

Quote: Walrus Fang

openly

Do not let rob in the open, they will rob in the closed ... Law officer

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Incvizitor

fascism is even better

How did you turn your tongue? Met-would spit in the face. Fascism is better for him ...

[Incvizitor]

And how is the modern western village of Kratia different from fascism? The same limited circle of people drags everything for itself (in fact, a superior race) and lives off the occupation of colonies, support of terrorism, plunder of resources, so you can spit it, this fascism as it was and remained, it only took another more "cultural" form for Western layman.
This "democracy" ruined the people even more than Hitler, how is it better then?

[saigon]

Not so badly declared by you!
Are you confusing anything?
The ideas of fascism are disgusting to me personally.
Here are the ideas of socialism, or even Russian imperialism, which are much more attractive than Western-style democracy.
The American is mistaken neither the new autocracy, we have a new formation - irresponsibility elevated to absolute.
Effective managerial burdened by terrible non-professionalism and multiplied by irresponsibility.

[BARKAS]

No better is fascism its modern version. Nothing has changed since then.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Incvizitor

fascism is even better

[Incvizitor]

Of course, to take this out of context is well done, but why not quote everything?
For example, what is the comparison of that fascism with the modern West.

[Alexander Sosnitsky]

There is a small problem for the autocracy to always be in good shape ahead of the rest of the planet, and this is a really insoluble problem that the democrats hide in lies and fairy tales by the hidden suppression of dissent. In autocracy, there is no mechanism to always be the leader of the popular worldview. The Chinese have succeeded, but after thousands of years of poverty. Jews, too, are unlikely to be able to hold on, although they have held for 3500 years, but in half poverty, bank trickery and the oligarchism of a few. Those. all through natural selection, which today is unacceptable already. But what about Russia? Giant and rich, but complacent. I think only by creating a machine for the total upbringing of geniuses in the Russian people, in which so far there are exceptionally bad roads and fools. Difficult task. But you have to decide. Otherwise, shocks.

[Alex Justice]

Worse than the rotten western village democracy, in any case, nothing exists, fascism is even better, there at least everything was openly, but here it is all covered up with false "ideals".

Not true. I have been living in Australia for more than 20 years. Law and order. The standard of living is high. The people are satisfied.
And I wish Russia the same.

[Alf]

Quote: Alex Justice

Law and order. The standard of living is high. The people are satisfied.

I'm very happy for you. Here is just one question, does the industry in Australia have its OWN or is it all imported, in the worst case, screwdriver assembly? Do you have your own scientific school? Australia lives quietly and calmly, by and large, only because it, as a country, is of no interest to anyone.

[Sergst]

Strong autocracy is better than fragile democracy, it's hard to argue with that

[Pavel57]

We do not have autocracy, and its strength will be tested this year.

[yustas]

. conservative ideas of Orthodoxy and nationalism.

yes it’s better than any raving on and equal rights (illusory, because now in Europe and the states, minorities have more rights than normal people.

[Alf]

Quote: yustas

. conservative ideas of Orthodoxy and nationalism.

As it is now in Russia and with Orthodoxy, to put it mildly, "not so hot", the hypocrites have been lying to themselves, and with nationalism, too, is not ice. Article 282 of the Criminal Code is more often used against Russians.

[rocket757]

For minke whales, everything that is not in line with Americanism is nowhere worse ... everything is clear with them.
Here we have what kind of assessment is manifested? It is very difficult and there is no consensus in society.
Not that capitalism, the power of the rich, is understandable, and then everything is very muddy.

[Walrus fang]

Quote: rocket757

For minke whales, everything that is not in line with Americanism is nowhere worse ... everything is clear with them.

The more venal and hypocritical in power, the better for the Americans and others .. That’s how such a howl goes ..

[rocket757]

The Yankees are a complete mess and other indecency, in controlled countries, also not a buzz. They love profit and control, that's how they got it!
They will tolerate anything, but God forbid, if the mess begins to interfere with their enrichment, to equip everyone at once.

[Grandfather]

Quote: Walrus Fang

The more venal and hypocritical in power, the better for the Americans and others .. That’s how such a howl goes ..

Vitalik, reveal the secret to the public, where did you get dozens of accounts from? did you run a kiosk with sim cards? Or are you a troll on allowance? the fact that you are a troll, I have no doubt, because your weather vane is spinning like a propeller in a cruiser ... for colleagues: Kh..morzhovy, department, oldfire, mikhan, mikhanische and a couple dozen more with one "handwriting" (Moscow is not distant) - it's all Vitalik ... Pedalik.

[Alf]

Quote: Dead Day

for colleagues: Kh..morzhovy, department, old man, mikhan, mikhanische. and a couple dozen more with one "handwriting" (Moscow is not distant) - this is all Vitalik ...

Site rules.

d) It is forbidden to have several accounts to one visitor;

[Deniska999]

Somehow we have autocracy and does not even smell. And Putinism ... this is generally an incomprehensible beast.

[abvgdeika]

He is a very understandable beast. It’s just hard to admit it to myself.

[lis-ik]

Putin has replaced Russia's fragile democracy of the 1990s with a strong autocracy. Putin instills conservative ideas of Orthodoxy and nationalism.
If, these gentlemen, on the contrary, without a flag and homeland, steal here, but live there. So the ex-ambassador did not guess.

[To be or not to be]

It is clear that compatriot Boris was better with a full report to the United States

[lis-ik]

It is clear that compatriot Boris was better with a full report to the United States

So he is his worthy successor. Receiver, so to speak. Moreover, the appointments were made by the same "people" whose interests he represents.

[demo]

Maybe Putin has strengthened his power.
But there are a number of "buts".
Power is either a way or a means.
Based on the fact that a person needs power in order to use it, this is one thing.
If power is perceived by man as a means of achieving goals - this is different.
But here a fork in two roads appears.
Achieving personal goals is one thing.
Following the achievement of the welfare goals of the people and the state is another.
And so is constant dualism.
If a thoughtful person can trace the life path of our Putin, he will very quickly understand where this person is striving.
And all his "victories" in the external arena are nothing more than a "Pyrrhic victory."
From the possession of which the country is more cold than hot.

[Irokez]

Quote: demo

Power is either a way or a means.

To achieve something there are many options, ways and means for this. And the fact that you wrote it is considered the same as the type: - "power is both a method and a means to achieve a set goal," that is, one does not interfere with the other, but only supplements or replaces.
Regarding dualism, I agree that each leader, young or old, has a choice or opportunity to serve the people or subjugate the people. But the situation, as you know, is obligatory, and if a person has come to power, whether you like it or not, it will become different, because you will never succeed in being good for everyone, but you must work and manage so that it does not fall apart and is always and everywhere, which means who to command, to punish someone and simply not to respond to someone without listening to their (sometimes silly) tips and ideas. Therefore, there are certain frameworks of behavior and decision-making beyond which the leader cannot go especially far (too abruptly and quickly, to do something) and only in time (and sometimes in large) can life gradually change for the worse (if it’s a puppet and for oneself rowing) or for the better (if the patriot is trying for everyone).
People are always inclined to criticize if they do something not according to their views, logic and ideas, believing that they are doing wrong, contrary to the majority or for the purpose of personal ambitions, which makes you indignant and indignant. But. Those who are in power (both good and bad) have more information and knowledge about the current state of affairs in the country (than ordinary consumers and taxpayers) and therefore, given this, the course, methods, methods or means apply accordingly to the circumstances and general course of development. often do not coincide with the opinion of couch critics who do not have complete information (and especially secret information) and therefore think incorrectly about how to act and what to do.

And all his "victories" in the external arena are nothing more than a "Pyrrhic victory."
From the possession of which the country is more cold than hot.

But this is purely your opinion, but not the rest and it (your subjective opinion) does not reflect the opinions of everyone else. For example, I completely disagree with you.

Maybe Putin has strengthened his power.

So maybe or strengthened? What dualism is in question. I strengthened it, I strengthened it, but why can’t I say openly about this - faith does not allow or something is interfering, or is it someone?

[demo]

Dear Irokez (Sergey).
The method and means, despite the apparent logical coincidence, is not exactly the same for me.
The tool is more a way to achieve the goal. Or - a strategic doctrine.
Explain.
A person has acquired the skill to play a musical instrument.
He can, using his skill to perform any piece of music written for this instrument.
But the instrument is a means of performing this work.
In relation to my comment, this can be understood as follows:
Achieving certain goals to maintain power with the help of acquired skills.
Abstract reflections, in isolation from a specific person, in isolation from declared and taken steps, do not give any positive results.
At least for me.
There is a historical character, say Peter the Great.
It can and should be considered in the context of its practical steps of that time.
And to evaluate in terms of the preferences received for the country, both that time and today.
Peter's reforms in the sphere of state administration undoubtedly led to the accelerated development of productive forces in society.
But at the same time enslavement of the peasantry was going on.
What hindered the development of society.
The struggle for access to the northern and southern seas is a very significant reserve for the future. This is a real engine inside and outside the state development of the country.
On the other hand, the deaths of many thousands of people, the decrease in the solvency of the population, the impoverishment of both the population and the treasury.

Well, Putin is not a couple to Peter.
The caliber does not match.
And if Peter stood up for "his Russia" (in the literal sense of the word ", then our comrade Russia, so far, does not consider his own.
In confirmation of my words, we look at how many crooks are already sitting, and we assume that 10 times more have not been planted.
They do not allow "their" state to be robbed.
Hands chopped.

And generally speaking.
My personal opinion is my opinion.
It impresses someone. Someone doesn’t.
I do not impose my point of view.
I declare it.
But at the same time, the question remains open - is there something positive in the steps of our Putin that can more than block all this negative?
One does not want to wait a hundred or two years for the descendants to appreciate.
We need to give an assessment here and now.

I think this is the final discussion.

[Irokez]

Peter and Putin. )))
And who is more a patriot? That is the question.
Doesn’t it seem that at that time Peter reigned - it was not Peter who went to Europe in a civilized way to watch and study like that? There is great evidence that Peter, who arrived, was replaced by a spouse who did not recognize his archers and some power circles. And after all this, saying that he raised Russia to a new level is simply stupid.
With its help, alcohol, smoking, new holidays, a calendar and a calendar from our traditional to European were introduced, thereby allowing us to forget our national principles and customs with faith and memory of the past.
With his help, Sweden was defeated, which later dropped to Europe and ceased to be the leader, for the Swedes, having not accepted the new Peter, went to fight and were before that in great friendship with Russia.
According to many sources, it was Peter who played into the hands of European enemies who, with his help, continued to keep Russia on a leash and enjoyed the benefits in Russia itself, holding senior positions in the leadership in science, trade and so on.
Peter built Peter? Yes, there are also many doubts because Peter was excavated, but not built, and even for buildings that are on the ground floor in the ground, we can say that they are very ancient buildings still pre-Petrine and they unearthed, restored, re-faced, Peter’s head on someone’s monument hitched and attributed all the merits to him.
Historians still hang noodles on our ears, and it has already reached the Second World War when these world historians want to rewrite history to please the Europeans, and what can we say about 200-300 years of history in which almost nothing can be restored over the past years.
And you still compare Peter with Putin? Peter must be compared with Yeltsin.
Putin got a crumbling country with a bunch of caretaker aligarchs and state trainees, and with a constitution written against Russia. And if you do not see changes, then you are simply blind.
At least the fact that he restored the army is already a great thing, brought the budget to a surplus, and not a deficit, is a big thing, almost all the debts he gave up and reduced lending on US government bonds is a great thing, pursues a policy of raising domestic production and makes others work - a great thing , increases gold and other valuable reserves - super, in the context of global competition in the oil and gas market, protects and expands the sales market - and rightly so, tries to expand production of agricultural products and trade abroad - excellent, declares and supports new production in order to reduce dependence on unstable in price and competition in the sale of oil and gas, which are right now about 40% of the budget - but well done. And mind you - all this is under the conditions of tough pressure from the "partners" and even some "pseudo-allies", under the conditions of sanctions, unfair criticism and Russophobia from the majority of the world through the purchased media of our "partners".
If Putin hasn't done anything for you - then don't go to Crimea, boycott the peninsula, go to Florida resorts in the US and bring money there - invest your "partner".
Now the discussion is over.

[hydrox]

Quote: demo

Power is either a way or a means.

Yes, in this sense you can’t argue, BUT...
At least in a way, at least by a means, power works only in one case - if there is a goal!
The end may even justify the means!
What is GDP today?
The opposition of the thieves' liberal stratum of power to ANY MONETARY actions of the VVP and its small and weak team (in addition, full of "moles"!).
In examples of GDP, we need to keep Singaporean Lee Kuan Yu ...
Trace, but half of his goal should be the expulsion of thieves from power.
But the second half should be the replacement of all thieves thrown out by honest and incorruptible pros; this half of the goal in Russia is naked fantasy.

[Sergej1972]

I somehow do not like the semi-Nazi order in Singapore.

[hydrox]

Sorry, but on the democratic foundations of state building, you will NEVER be able to eradicate corruption.
By the way, even in China, with its hundreds (by year) executions, corruption cannot be eradicated.

[Alf]

Quote: hydrox

By the way, even in China, with its hundreds (by year) executions, corruption cannot be eradicated.

True, but it can be driven into a framework that, at least, does not interfere with the development of the country.

[tarragon]

Foreign policy is directly projected onto the domestic situation in the country. How? In short. Our economy is connected with the economies of other countries. to develop an economy in isolation from the whole world is a dead end. The West would gladly isolate us, sanctions are aimed at this. The fact that at this stage this does not happen is the merit of a strong position in the external arena. Putin here +

[hydrox]

Do not mix hot with sour ...

[tarragon]

If you are such a good turn, explain where it is hot and sour.

[Alf]

Quote: Tarhun

merit of a strong position in the external arena.

Where is the strong position?

Quote: Tarhun

to develop an economy in isolation from the whole world is a dead end.

The integrated economy is one thing, as it is now, and the interacting one is quite another.

[awdrgy]

Right firs on the Russian soul from vizin these things are suspicious (do not throw me in a thorn bush ???)

[Mavrikiy]

Putin has replaced Russia's fragile democracy of the 1990s with a strong autocracy. Putin instills conservative ideas of Orthodoxy and nationalism.

Oh, don't lie, boyar ... No ideas of Orthodoxy - Some ceremonies and officials from the church. Nationalism does not exist without nationalists. Show them.

[BREAKTHROUGH READY]

Vladimir Putini - well done!
Politician, leader and fighter!

Pride of Russia!

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: BREAKTHROUGH READY

Vladimir Putini - well done!
Politician, leader and fighter! Pride of Russia!

That's just the point, alarming .... .Americans do not seem to scold, but simply state a pleasant fact for us. But where are the liberals in the prison camps, the Congress of the intelligentsia on the streets? Something is wrong here and wrong .....

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: READY FOR BREAKTHROUGH

Vladimir Putini - well done!
Politician, leader and fighter!

You remind me of one character from the "twelve chairs". "Your life credo is Always." It's time to grow up already.

[alone]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

You remind me of one character from the "twelve chairs". "Your life credo is Always." It's time to grow up already.

It’s more convenient .. Someday another will sit on the throne, he will write the same thing about the new, and about the old he will write nasty things ...

[The popuas]

Rather, a man sarcasm

[alone]

Quote: Popuas

Rather, a man sarcasm

Maybe ... But there are a lot of those about whom I wrote

[The popuas]

So you wrote in the singular ... he will write ... but they will not write

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Yeah, they even wanted to hang panels in the temple, refused .

[thinker]

And who refused?

In the main temple of the Russian Armed Forces there will be mosaic images of President Vladimir Putin, Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu and USSR President Joseph Stalin.

[alone]

If Stalin was alive, he would die of shame ..

[abvgdeika]

Do you miss Stalin?

[alone]

Quote: abvgdeika

Do you miss Stalin?

I do not ... Just a mosaic fresco of an ardent atheist and living people on the walls of the church - complete nonsense

[abvgdeika]

Yes, the fresco in the temple is strong. You don’t even need to comment.

[Alf]

In fact, in Orthodoxy it is forbidden to canonize LIVE people.

[Ham]

the only thing that the states can come up with is "democracy" on the Latin American model - which we see in Ukraine and elsewhere ...
read O. Henry - "kings and cabbages"

[abvgdeika]

Do not read enemy writers at night

[Ham]

and who needs to be read? Leo Rubinstein? or alexievich with solzhenitsyn?
and mark twain is also "enemy"? and ambrose bierce?

[sds87]

So what? What would the zeroed out rating of Putin be supported on VO now all articles will be posted abroad and not only? I am very "interested" in the opinion of some no-name from the USA. I have already gorged on Putin's reforms. The pocket from them grows thin, as does the waist. Who needs the opinions of these foreign names in Russia?

[rocket757]

A correctly posed question is half the answer !!!
On GDP, you can conduct a survey so that the rating will be programmed by the questions themselves.
Not everyone is ready to put + or - by definition, just because .....

[Alf]

Quote: rocket757

On GDP, you can conduct a survey so that the rating will be programmed by the questions themselves.

Mr. Peskov said that the Kremlin has its own rating system ...

[rocket757]

They have their own system for everything and we can only destroy it ... we come to the same thing again, we need to unite TOGETHER TOGETHER! No other way.

[serezhasoldatow]

Put bricks in your pocket so that the wind does not blow. Achinea is easier to carry than a log.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: serezhasoldatow

Put bricks in your pocket so that the wind does not blow. Achinea is easier to carry than a log.

Do you carry bricks, or logs?

[Ham]

Did you like the "Yeltsin reforms"? or are you a fan of perestroika?
you need to strain your head - they’re not only eating it ...
and remember: everyone does not care about your pocket, and a thin waist is the key to health ...
the welfare of the state is a million times more important than your pocket, and especially your belly

[abvgdeika]

So the state is breathing

[Ham]

So the state is breathing

in your wet dreams ...
frankly, it was breathing when Maskhadov was sitting in Chechnya and the militants of Basayev and Khattab entered Dagestan ... when there was a Nemtsov default of 1998 ...
catch the difference?
although you are a propagandist - you don't give a damn about it, your task is to talk about "empty pocket and losing weight"

[Fevralsk. Morev]

Stop screaming. You want it like the 90s !!!! 20 years have passed. One achievement during the reign of pLutin is the increase in the number of billionaires. Who made a mess in the 90's? The same one that our Zeroed Yeltsin Center built and lays flowers on. And as for an empty pocket and a slimming waist, a respected ham, the propaganda is you. The picture from the TV has long been out of sync with the contents of the refrigerator.

[Ham]

The picture from the TV has not been consistent with the contents of the refrigerator for a long time.

but you have internet)))
with an empty fridge but in tyrnete)))
we have capitalism, my friend, so the growth of billionaires is normal
and you just want to like in the 90s - just puff on the mbh manuals
your task is to overwhelm Russia as an independent state and turn it into a semi-colony subordinate to the Washington Regional Committee
egregious example - Ukraine
this is the uterine howl of all propagandons - an empty refrigerator ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Ham

but you have internet)))

I also have. Wired. And how, for example, today is it different from the Soviet radio point for 50 cents per month?

[Ham]

do you pay 50 cents for the Internet?)))
starving of the Volga ...
accessible tyrnet it is the merit of "this power" so that you tyafkal ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Ham

do you pay 50 cents for the Internet?)))

Judging by the costs of housing and communal services, I pay about 2 times more than for the radio frequency in the USSR.

Quote: Ham

available will turn out to be the merit of "this power"

Oh, what are you doing? And there were no accessible mobile phones under the Soviet regime ...

[Ham]

don't faint hungry ...
and then you can’t crawl to the clave to knock off the next training manual;)
and the union then ended in 91 like you, too, all suffered about the refrigerator

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Ham

don't faint hungry ...

Your prayers.

Quote: Ham

another training manual;)

You would give me at least the corner of my eye would give a look. And then it’s dumb like that, suddenly contrary to her, darling, I’ll graduate from that.

[Ham]

And then it’s dumb like that, suddenly contrary to her, darling, I’ll graduate from

well, while you spit letter by letter ... as on all subversive resources
you are all so alike - hunger strikes with wired internet for 50 cents ...

[Lord of the Sith]

Putin replaced the fragile democracy of Russia in the 1990s with a strong autocracy

Putin has replaced the full ass in Russia of the 1990s with strong democracy just the same.
Uncle Vova is not an autocrat, he is not a king, and he has seriously limited power.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Putin has replaced the full ass in Russia of the 1990s with strong democracy just the same.
Uncle Vova is not an autocrat, he is not a king, and he has seriously limited power.

Do you think we have a "strong democracy" today?

[alone]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Do you think we have a "strong democracy" today?

Today there is a "strong" ... But what is not clear

[Lord of the Sith]

Compared to the 90s film festival, there is certainly strong democracy.

[Irokez]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Do you think we have a "strong democracy" today?

In my opinion, even more than in the United States.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Irokez

In my opinion, even more than in the United States.

You have strange ideas about democracy.

[Irokez]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

You have strange ideas about democracy.

It is precisely that these ideas are very strange and different for everyone. In ancient Greece, there was also a democracy of free people, but half of these free people had slaves. Therefore, when Americans talk about democracy, I begin to analyze and search for their slaves, but when they talk about free elections, then in the USA (the most democratic country) people don’t choose the president as we do, but electors whose opinions can also be influenced before the elections and where here democratic (popular) elections, but they don’t smell, everything is in the hands of an influential elite of those in power.

[abvgdeika]

Electors are chosen by the people

[Irokez]

Quote: abvgdeika

Electors are chosen by the people

But not the president. Why not remove the extra link.

[abvgdeika]

By the way, I don’t know

[Sergej1972]

There are several reasons. The first is a tribute to tradition. The second is to defend federalism while protecting the interests of small states. From each state, the number of electors is equal to the number of congressmen and senators from it. The number of members of the House of Representatives from each state depends on the number of its inhabitants, but one congressman is 47% guaranteed, regardless of the number. And in the Senate, each state elects two senators. It is not hard to understand that small states have slightly overpriced and large states slightly underrepresented in the electoral college. At the same time, the majority principle of choosing the electoral college from each state is in effect. 50 out of 30 states have a winner-take-all policy. Voters do not elect electors personally, they choose between lists of electors nominated by parties. The party that comes out on top gets all the seats. For example, a state must elect 28 electors because it chooses 50 congressmen and two senators. Republicans get 1% of the vote, Democrats 49,9%. All state electoral college members will be Republicans, with no Democrats represented at all. Further. The difference in voter turnout across states is also not taken into account. In one, 50% of voters came to the polls, in the other 70%. This will in no way affect the fixed representation on the college of each state. From the fact that in one state 20% will come to the elections, and in the second at least 80%, the number of electors from them will not change. All in all, all of the above leads to serious distortion. Therefore, a candidate who would lose in direct elections often becomes the winner. More people voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016, but in the electoral college the majority was for the Republicans. By the way, therefore, one should be skeptical about the popularity ratings of US presidential candidates. The real thing to consider is the odds of winning the electoral college in each state, and the "weight category" of each electoral college.

[abvgdeika]

Thanks, a little clearer

[Sergej1972]

Could have been more detailed and more accessible, but it’s inconvenient from a smartphone, and the computer is too lazy to turn it on.)

[Alf]

Quote: Irokez

Why not remove the extra link.

They may not choose that.

[Ham]

Quote: abvgdeika

Electors are chosen by the people

electors are a party asset ... the people there are on the side of the fire ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Irokez

It is precisely that these ideas are very strange and different for everyone. In ancient Greece, there was also a democracy of free people, but half of these free people had slaves. Therefore, when Americans talk about democracy, I begin to analyze and search for their slaves, but when they talk about free elections, then in the USA (the most democratic country) people don’t choose the president as we do, but electors whose opinions can also be influenced before the elections and where here democratic (popular) elections, but they don’t smell, everything is in the hands of an influential elite of those in power.

Bourgeois democracy has never been a genuine democracy (i.e., the power of the people), that we have a fiction, not a democracy that they have. Who has more money is right, today all democracy is right.

[Irokez]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

That we have a fiction, not a democracy, that they have. Who has more money is right, today all democracy is right.

Wow, you also noticed who has the most money and he is right and there are only words about democracy. And also notice who has power over the world (that is, more money) is the most democratic, the most exclusive and chosen. Well, like the master of all, and he (the master) calls himself the great and most valuable title - Democrat.

[Ham]

Do you think we have a "strong democracy" today?

the strongest and in the most western style ... the truth is still there are crumbs from the social nishtyak times of the ussr ...
Well, what do you want the Soviet Union has sunk into oblivion, then you really need to either remove the cross or put on your panties ...
and our "democracy" is stronger than in the West - just look at the liberal sectarians in the West, they would have been annihilated long ago for such blatant subversive activities, but in our country they are threatening with a condescending finger ...

[Svarog]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Putin replaced the fragile democracy of Russia in the 1990s with a strong autocracy

Putin has replaced the full ass in Russia of the 1990s with strong democracy just the same.
Uncle Vova is not an autocrat, he is not a king, and he has seriously limited power.

By or by whom is his power limited?
This is how the USA praised Borya in the 90s, so now they support Putin ..

[abvgdeika]

They're joking with Putin, especially with his animation

[Avior]

. Putin replaced the full ass in Russia of the 1990s with a strong

[Alf]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

and he has seriously limited power.

By whom ? A constitution under which he has no right to change the government? So it was Boris55 who sang to us a full-time face washer, and when the Greatest in one fell swoop and the government drove out and scored others, he disappeared somewhere ...

[forest1]

There are no conservative ideas of Orthodoxy and nationalism in Russia. There are progressive ideas of the Polovtsy, Pechenegs, ancient Sparta and Jack London.

[abvgdeika]

Well it’s good that not the ideas of NATO soldiers

[forest1]

And that’s right, Everyone should understand that if there weren’t Polovtsy, Pechenegs and Sparta here, then NATO soldiers would have stood here.

[7 poplar]

and what do the Americans replace their shit democracy ??? with dozens of destroyed states and thousands of human deaths and grief !!!!

[Pvi1206]

Of course, now the United States cannot rob Russia, as in the dashing 90s ... and really regret it ...

[abvgdeika]

Russia has nothing to take, but amers are fine and so

[Alf]

Quote: Pvi1206

Now the United States can not rob Russia, as in the dashing 90s ..

Does RUSAL's example say nothing?

[Nonna]

The article is stupid, an absolute misunderstanding of the moment, especially about Putin's nationalism and bonds

[prior]

"The cuckoo praises the rooster for praising the cuckoo ..."
Unforgettable grandfather Krylov I.A.

[Viktor Sergeev]

Rather, fragile and weak gangster power to strong authoritarian power.
He saved Russia from complete collapse. The West was already rubbing its hands, preparing to finish off Russia, and then Putin happened.

[Svarog]

A statement is made, for example, of the former US ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul. He says that "Putin and Putinism have influenced Russia and its place in the modern world."

And what place does Russia have under Putin? The location of the gas station .. that's all the achievements.
And he certainly strengthened his personal power .. all 20 years he went to this .. He does what he wants, he decided to rewrite and rewrite the Constitution for himself .. With the same determination he would fight corruption, nepotism, develop science, medicine, .. in general, I would do something for ordinary citizens of Russia .. otherwise objective indicators indicate that the people are getting poorer and dying out, and "friends" are getting richer ..

[Sergej1972]

I do not know a single person who lives poorer than 20 years ago.

[serezhasoldatow]

Right, Putin did. Now my children would have washed the dishes at the lords.

[alone]

Quote: serezhasoldatow

Now my children would have washed the dishes at the lords.

))) They will wash the dishes at domestic mates .. Judging by the state of education, this is a very vague prospect

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: lonely

They will wash the dishes at the domestic sirs ..

Actually, already. The number of maids, caretakers, and other gardeners will be more than the Moscow Region and the Ministry of Internal Affairs combined. Those. wiping asses efficient managers cost the country more than ensuring national security. That is why we are slipping every year lower. in the ranking of economies, that a lot of people are excluded from productive labor, dealing with the whims of a bunch of snickering loafers.

[tarragon]

Normal education now. My son is now in his second year at the institute, I can compare. Prize-winning places at world olympiads in mathematics and computer science are occupied by our students, this is a good indicator.

[Irokez]

Do not argue with Lannan Shi. She or he, as it were, has 2 children with the last 200 rubles (according to her own words) and there is nothing to live for in connection with forced self-isolation. Would help, list the help than argue with her.

[Alf]

Quote: Tarhun

Prize-winning places at world olympiads in mathematics and computer science are occupied by our students, this is a good indicator.

Only OFFICIAL polls on the streets show that these victims of the exam do not know when the Great Patriotic War began and ended, nor who fought ...

[pexotinec]

Fragile democracy, as I understand it, unquestioning worship of the West.

[Pavlik K.]

Namely, including the impudent seizure of all major industries by a handful of gaydarochubays, the collapse of the Soviet army, (including an attempt to completely utilize Soviet nuclear weapons), etc., and at the end of the list there are lines to temples of the American way of life - McD .

[Andrei Maksimenko]

This is real American propaganda. Cheap, respectively, very stupid. The prefix SAMO - defines actions as independent, without anyone's help. While the President of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Russian Federation, in fact, legally holds consultations with the IMF (Americans). On the issues of governing the country. Apriri. For 30 years now, there has been no autocracy in Russia. Officially, legally, Russia is ruled by America. And America itself may be interested, only keeping its influence on Russia. They do not care about Putin at all. If you don’t want Putin, get Navalny. America from the rearrangement of these names does not lose anything for itself.

[Alf]

Quote: Andrei Maksimenko

And America itself may be interested, only keeping its influence on Russia. They do not care about Putin at all. If you don’t want Putin, get Navalny. America doesn’t lose anything for itself from rearranging these names.

[Million]

He is not a judoka, but a night hockey player.
He abandoned his wife and judo, became interested in hockey at the same time. He forgot the German language and the people he knew before ...
This often happens (sarcasm)

[rruvim]

Is Putin an autocrat? Don't tell my horse !!! He cannot get rid of the liberal government, which constantly "substitutes" him for non-fulfillment of his own decrees. Most likely he is a Gauleiter of the Eastern Territories of America.

[abvgdeika]

The king is good, the boyars are bad !!!!

[Fevralsk. Morev]

Not a liberal government, comprador.

[fa2998]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Putin replaced the fragile democracy of Russia in the 1990s with a strong autocracy

Putin has replaced the full ass in Russia of the 1990s with strong democracy just the same.
Uncle Vova is not an autocrat, he is not a king, and he has seriously limited power.

Is this a strong democracy we have now? Well, well. Wait for the results of the next elections, everyone spits on it at every corner. And the results are 99,9% "FOR". This is such a people's power.

[rruvim]

State employees with policemen and the army will come out. Vote as it should. They are now 30% of the working population. And Putin’s constitution will be accepted and something else approved ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: rruvim

State employees with policemen and the army will come out. Vote as it should. They are now 30% of the working population. And Putin’s constitution will be accepted and something else approved ...

Why so many troubles, they will try to do electronic voting.

[Fevralsk. Morev]

Against the background of self-isolation

[Alf]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: rruvim

State employees with policemen and the army will come out. Vote as it should. They are now 30% of the working population. And Putin’s constitution will be accepted and something else approved ...

Why so many troubles, they will try to do electronic voting.

[Kuroneko]

Former US Ambassador: Putin has replaced the fragile democracy of Russia in the 1990s with a strong autocracy

And even so! Tsars, emperors, general secretaries, presidents - the mentality is such that whatever you call it, the autocracy has always been and will be. And this is not bad at all. It's just that all these hypocritical games "at democracy" are certainly not for us.

[naburkin]

Quote: Ros 56

If Tsar Nikolai used their own methods against the Bolsheviks, autocracy in Russia would probably exist for another thousand years. The question of the result of the Second World War is only in doubt.

And what, did the Bolsheviks overthrow Nikolai the Bloody?
Damn, you need to re-read the history of the February Revolution, probably new data has appeared, but I'm not in the know)))

[Fevralsk. Morev]

True true. The overthrowers were Bolsheviks. Well, the monarchist can’t overthrow the king.

[Herman 4223]

The ambassador is lying, we have no autocracy. In general, sovereignty is a problem.
https://youtu.be/0YUybzmpwxE
https://youtu.be/rdtAY8ZK3TM

[frols]

"Unknown persons have installed a toilet bowl on the site of the demolished monument to Soviet Marshal Ivan Konev in Prague, the police are conducting an investigation, reports the Czech agency ČTK, citing police spokesman Jan Danek."
Well, liberals scolding power and sofa hamsters, Russia is your homeland? You answer or can only blame your power?

[rruvim]

What would you like? The Czechs massively fought on the side of the Reich, and the whole rear worked selflessly for his benefit!

[abvgdeika]

What a rich fantasy you have

[rruvim]

What is it? How many of our soldiers and nerves and blood spoiled.

[rruvim]

These excellent Czech machine guns (and tens of thousands of new ones made by Czech workers during the 6 years of the protectorate's existence) shot our fathers and grandfathers on all its fronts throughout the Great Patriotic War ...

This refers to ZB-53 and ZB-26. And what about the SS Brisken regiment and the Bohemia and Moravia SS division?

[Sergej1972]

They worked for the Reich, but did not fight. The state army of the Protectorate totaled only 8 thousand lightly armed soldiers and officers.

[Fevralsk. Morev]

Yes, they didn’t fight. They modestly forged the victory of Hitler in the rear. And after the assault on Berlin, they suddenly began to fight with the invaders.

[COJIDAT]

"Putin is instilling conservative ideas of Orthodoxy and nationalism." - nonsense!

[rruvim]

He doesn’t plant anything. He is not able to plant something. If he were Orthodox, he would not forbid believers to celebrate Easter in the Temples, if he were a nationalist, he would wear a pile according to the concepts. The usual appointee, demagogue and rogue (as much as 20 years).

[abvgdeika]

The Steadfast Tin Soldier

[7,62x54]

How democracy is manifested, we see now, during the crown pandemic in Western countries. And we do not need such a democracy.

[cniza]

He masterfully showed how to use the opportunities provided to him by the split and confused West.

So go about your business, do not meddle with us, we will figure it out ourselves.

[LeonidL]

“Putin replaced the fragile democracy of Russia in the 1990s with a strong autocracy.” - Better a strong autocracy of the living than a fragile democracy of the dead.

[Hypatius]

The only pro-Kremlin media in the United States gave out something. Urgently in circulation and distribute among the residents of the housing office, as you like

[APASUS]

Michael McFaul:

Putin has replaced Russia's fragile democracy of the 1990s with a strong autocracy. Putin instills conservative ideas of Orthodoxy and nationalism.

Michael McFaul, as always, went from a sore head to a healthy one! Something he somehow modestly kept silent about the role of the United States in the formation of democracy in the 90s. It was worth reminding the "partner" that in place of help from the Americans, Russia received a carve-up, a robbery in our country! No one thought to help the Russians build something, they were simply stripped ..................

[Fevralsk. Morev]

Firstly. Be careful with the autocracy, otherwise the situation in our country is revolutionary.
Secondly. Not a strong autocracy, a strong compradorism.
And thirdly. What year is 2036? God forbid that I could hold out to the congratulation on the New Year 2021. And then on his face such sadness .....

[Imperial Technocrat]

Did you miss haloperidol? Sorry

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Imperial Technocrat

Did you miss haloperidol? Sorry

It's you in vain, do not joke with health, do not miss anymore.

[iouris]

If Foreign Policy (USA) praises, something goes wrong.

[vkd.dvk]

Trump just turned schizophrenic America into schizophrenic in a cube. Such a crazy president was not there yet.