Rosguard ordered the delivery of Kalashnikov 200 series

Rosguard ordered the delivery of Kalashnikov 200 series

The Russian Guard has entered into a new contract with the Kalashnikov concern for the supply of automatic machines of the 200th series in the usual and shortened form. This follows from the materials posted on the public procurement website.


According to the application, the Russian Guard has ordered the concern to supply AK-200 and AK-205 assault rifles in the amount of 1400 and 200 assault rifles, respectively. The contract must be completed by November 20 of this year, the total cost of delivery is 90,4 million rubles.

The Kalashnikov assault rifle of the 200th series was developed at Izhmash in 2008-2009, but did not go into the series due to the freezing of the project. Work on the machine was resumed in 2015, taking into account developments on the AK-400 machine ("AK-12 model 2016") and on the development kit "Body kit". The presentation of the assault rifles of this series was held at the Army 2017 exhibition; the assault rifles were presented to the public in 2018.

The Kalashnikov assault rifles of the 200th series are, in fact, the further development of the OCD "Body kit", produced in the factory. As stated, unlike AK-74M and AK-103 assault rifles, the 200 series has "improved ergonomics" and the presence of Picatinny rails that allow the installation of modern sighting systems and other accessories. Otherwise, there are no significant differences.

The machine is designed for law enforcement and for export, the more sophisticated AK-12 and AK-15 assault rifles are supplied to the Russian army. The AK-200 is a “regular” submachine gun of 5,45X39 mm caliber, the 205th is a shortened version of the submachine gun. In addition, the 200th series includes AK-201 and AK-202 submachine guns chambered for 5,56X45 mm (normal and shortened) and AK-203 and AK-204 chambered for 7,62X39 mm caliber (regular and shortened).
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  1. Eug
    Eug 10 May 2020 12: 34 New
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    Wow ... but what is RosGuard not buying the most sophisticated machines? And if not a secret, why 5.45? As for me, for RosGuard 7.62 shortened - just right ...
    1. Clerk 10 May 2020 13: 20 New
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      And why is the AK-12 better than the same 200? So the differences are mostly minor, but the difference in cost is probably very significant!
    2. opus 10 May 2020 13: 29 New
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      Quote: Eug
      Wow ... but what is RosGuard not buying the most sophisticated machines?

      are preparing
      for them, "there is money, do not stay here, all the best to you"
      According to the Ministry of Finance, the 2020 budget is funded by the Russian Guard 251,3 billion rubles pledged - 3,2 billion more than a year ago. The total expenditures of the federal treasury on “national security and law enforcement” will amount to 2,5 trillion rubles - 319 billion rubles, or 14,6% more than in 2019.

      April 2020
      The Russian Guard announced the purchase of 57 hand grenades (“RGN products index 500G7”)
      1. AUL
        AUL 10 May 2020 13: 41 New
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        Treat this with understanding! They take care of you! wassat
        1. opus 10 May 2020 13: 46 New
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          Quote: AUL
          Treat this with understanding! They take care of you!

          no, thanks
        2. Catfish 10 May 2020 15: 28 New
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          Yeah ... there is no doubt about it! laughing
      2. tagil 10 May 2020 16: 27 New
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        Yeah. How can you shoot people from junk, suddenly a bullet in your forehead will bring dirt and throw grenades of the last century like RGD-5. In general, do not you think that you are carrying wild stupidity?
        1. Clerk 10 May 2020 16: 51 New
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          ... and in which case they must neutralize the terrorists with Maxim’s machine guns and machine guns, right? You would at least learn what specific units of the FSVNG these Kalash will get. and then they would draw conclusions!
          PS - sorry. Based on this comment of yours, at first I thought that you were from “these” oppositionists.
          1. tagil 10 May 2020 16: 55 New
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            I know very well what units this weapon will get and for what. Maybe you will first read to whom and what I answered in such a “key” before jumping straight into it like that.
            1. Clerk 10 May 2020 17: 08 New
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              Yes, I say - I'm sorry. It hurt like a pile.
              1. tagil 10 May 2020 18: 07 New
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                Nothing happens, you do not pay attention to these ducks. They can only be explained with a rubber club. Here such Novodvorskie sometimes come across that the hand reaches for the holster.
                1. Clerk 10 May 2020 18: 14 New
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                  And you just imagine that there would be if instead of new Kalash anti-terrorist units and operational brigades of the FSVNG received jet flamethrowers!
                  1. tagil 10 May 2020 18: 18 New
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                    Well, I think that if necessary, they will. In the border troops there were both infantry fighting vehicles and mortars and Grads, while they were needed. Well, these "patriots" can at least have hair on the fifth point in themselves and their "fighting" comrade, nobody will be asked to tear them out, what and who to arm them with.
                  2. hohkn 10 May 2020 19: 09 New
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                    Quote: clerk
                    anti-terrorist units and operational brigades of the FSVNG received jet flamethrowers!

                    So they have RPO-A. And for a long time, since the time of the subordination of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. In the North Caucasus use.
            2. Virus-free crown 10 May 2020 21: 19 New
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              Quote: Tagil
              I know very well what units this weapon will get and for what. Maybe you will first read to whom and what I answered in such a “key” before jumping straight into it like that.

              very ready to listen about the "anti-terrorism" units in the National Guard under)))
              opened beer, stocked up with popcorn - I'm listening;)
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              2. Alexey RA 11 May 2020 12: 40 New
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                Quote: Crown without virus
                very ready to listen about the "anti-terrorism" units in the National Guard under)))

                And what, 604 CSN has ceased to be anti-terror?
                1. Virus-free crown 11 May 2020 14: 41 New
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                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  Quote: Crown without virus
                  very ready to listen about the "anti-terrorism" units in the National Guard under)))

                  And what, 604 CSN has ceased to be anti-terror?

                  Can you read? )) 604 CSN - special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation Ministry of Internal Affairs - and I asked about the National Guard units)
                  1. Alexey RA 11 May 2020 16: 25 New
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                    Quote: Crown without virus
                    Can you read? )) 604 CSN - special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation Ministry of Internal Affairs - and I asked about the National Guard units)

                    So there is no more the Interior Ministry of the Russian Federation. Renamed them to the National Guard.
                    Accordingly, everything that used to be anti-terrorism in the Ministry of Internal Affairs has become the same anti-terrorism, but already under the guise of NG.
                    1. Virus-free crown 11 May 2020 20: 40 New
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                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      Quote: Crown without virus
                      Can you read? )) 604 CSN - special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation Ministry of Internal Affairs - and I asked about the National Guard units)

                      So there is no more the Interior Ministry of the Russian Federation. Renamed them to the National Guard.
                      Accordingly, everything that used to be anti-terrorism in the Ministry of Internal Affairs has become the same anti-terrorism, but already under the guise of NG.

                      Just then, on the fingers I ask - what anti-terrorist units were created from scratch when the Rosguard was created ??? )))
                      1. Alexey RA 12 May 2020 13: 08 New
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                        Quote: Crown without virus
                        Just then, on the fingers I ask - what anti-terrorist units were created from scratch when the Rosguard was created ??? )))

                        From scratch - none. For all of the "creation of the WG" was the separation of structures from the Ministry of Internal Affairs (primarily the BB) and renaming them to the National Guard. A sort of rebranding of BB. smile
            3. Alexey RA 11 May 2020 12: 36 New
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              Quote: Tagil
              I know very well what units this weapon will get and for what.

              Given that grenades must be delivered to Balashikha, there is only one candidate for them - the only division left in the BB / WG.
              1. tagil 11 May 2020 15: 09 New
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                Maybe. But since it is forbidden to use RGN as well as the Russian Geographical Society for educational purposes, it is most likely a replacement in the warehouses of old grenades.
        2. opus 10 May 2020 18: 56 New
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          Quote: Tagil
          . In general, do not you think that you are carrying wild stupidity?

          here is what I read - it seems like a nonsense.
          And in my post I discovered it.
          Can you help?
          1. tagil 10 May 2020 20: 18 New
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            I will help.
            are preparing
            for them, "there is money, do not stay here, all the best to you"
            Probably they are preparing according to your version to shoot people, but whoever crawls into the basements will throw grenades. Or do you see your statement differently? Then state your thoughts clearly so that there is no double interpretation of your words.
            1. opus 11 May 2020 18: 27 New
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              Quote: Tagil
              Probably they are preparing according to your version to shoot people, but whoever crawls into the basements will throw grenades

              and why did they once run after the people and give him forcibly: money, potatoes and bread?
              Yes, of course, if they are dissatisfied.
              It was like this under the tsar and under the communists, it was like that under Yeltsin, and now it will be like that.
              grenades are a mystery to me, much less.
              Military operations are not carried out only if you defend the palace of Amin, the Winter Palace.

              Quote: Tagil
              Then state your thoughts clearly so that there is no double interpretation of your words.

              I state as I can. Not everyone is as smart as you are.
              God won’t equalize the trees in the forest in height, but you want me to be at the other stage of development with you. It doesn’t!
              1. tagil 11 May 2020 19: 42 New
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                Yes, of course, if they are dissatisfied.
                It was like this under the tsar and under the communists, it was like that under Yeltsin, and now it will be like that.
                Yeah. I have no more questions. None.
              2. maratkoRuEkb 22 May 2020 13: 27 New
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                to your quote "grenades are a mystery to me, so much more so.
                I’ll not answer “military operations” I will answer, the Russian Guard is guarding special objects (for example, a nuclear power plant, storages warehouses of varying degrees of danger) in the protection of such objects fighters are given grenades. Well, plus in the Caucasus, anti-terrorist operations are carried out periodically.
      3. Sasha Minakov 10 May 2020 17: 29 New
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        how are you like you got. whiners and eternal beggars.
        1. opus 10 May 2020 19: 00 New
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          Quote: Sasha Minakov
          how are you like you got. whiners and eternal beggars.

          how did you get (either stupid s or bought kremleboty), and at the expense of the poor, your idol vysis gave

          / drink less even on self-isolation /
          1. Sergey Averchenkov 10 May 2020 19: 51 New
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            Well, then why is this itself ... Needless ... Isolation? Hic ...
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        2. Revival 10 May 2020 19: 27 New
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          Yes, we know your position.
          Masha has clearly chewed everything about the boyars and slaves
          1. opus 11 May 2020 18: 23 New
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            Quote: Revival
            Yes, we know your position.

            enlighten, otherwise I myself am not aware of my "position"
            Quote: Revival
            Self-isolation? Hic ...

            but I don’t know what this is.
            1. Revival 11 May 2020 21: 43 New
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              About the second citation in the comment, you messed up something
              1. opus 12 May 2020 12: 35 New
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                Quote: Revival
                About the second citation in the comment, you messed up something

                maybe. nakosyachil apologize
                this is probably this
                Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                Self-isolation? Hic ...
    3. smart fellow 10 May 2020 23: 36 New
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      Because they cannot produce AK-12 on an industrial scale. Even a few thousand pieces a year.
  2. V.I.P. 10 May 2020 12: 41 New
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    It would be cheaper to buy this kit and install the forces of gunsmiths. Ak-74 is full in warehouses. Instead of the Ak-205, it was necessary to buy AM-17. It’s certainly better .... And, as usual, the whole point is to use the budget and no gain in efficiency ... The Ak-74 with the receiver cover (with trims for sight) from Fab Defense is much better, the Ak-200. .....
    1. tagil 10 May 2020 16: 29 New
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      And you do not think that this is a full-time replacement of weapons that have exhausted their resources and gone for remelting.
  3. = VolodeY = 10 May 2020 13: 03 New
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    Demonstrations to disperse are getting ready!
    1. pv1005 10 May 2020 13: 19 New
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      Quote: = VolodeY =
      Demonstrations to disperse are getting ready!

      Go to the doctor and drink a pill, or you’ll die a fool.
      1. Clerk 10 May 2020 13: 37 New
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        Quote: pv1005
        Quote: = VolodeY =
        Demonstrations to disperse are getting ready!

        Alas, this is not being treated.
      2. Incvizitor 10 May 2020 13: 38 New
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        Only the grave will correct such.
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    3. Vol4ara 10 May 2020 13: 35 New
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      Quote: = VolodeY =
      Demonstrations to disperse are getting ready!

      Demonstrations and batons with gas accelerate with a bang, they are preparing for riots and urge the overthrow of power
    4. Piramidon 10 May 2020 14: 34 New
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      Quote: = VolodeY =
      Demonstrations to disperse are getting ready!

      Navalnenok preoccupied, or what? Do not go to the Lechina assembly and you will be happy.
      1. Revival 10 May 2020 14: 58 New
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        Do not go
        Do not say
        Approve
        Know your place
        And you will be happy, right?
        1. Piramidon 10 May 2020 15: 44 New
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          Quote: Revival
          Do not go
          Do not say
          Approve
          Know your place
          And you will be happy, right?

          Follow the methods that are legal to you if you don’t like something.
          1. Revival 10 May 2020 15: 46 New
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            So all methods are prohibited!
            What methods?
            Everything is prohibited and only with permission.
            Criticism of an official only with the permission of the official, well, just a class!
          2. Revival 10 May 2020 15: 58 New
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            So what are the current legal methods, please, which are available to the citizen
            1. Piramidon 10 May 2020 17: 20 New
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              Get official permissions for all kinds of mass actions and no one will drive you.
              1. Revival 10 May 2020 19: 05 New
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                Get permission from the one I want to criticize?
                It is logical of course ...
                And if he himself is expected to refuse me then what?
          3. Revival 10 May 2020 19: 07 New
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            Legal rally method.
            The rally forbids the one against whom the rally is going. AND? What?
            What is another legal method at the impasse of specially created laws?
        2. Vasyan1971 10 May 2020 18: 16 New
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          Quote: Revival
          Do not go
          Do not say.
          Approve.
          Know your place

          What is the problem then?
          Walk.
          Speak.
          Do not approve.
          Do not know your place.
          And you will be happy.
          And most importantly: do not complain later. wassat
          1. Revival 10 May 2020 19: 04 New
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            That is, you openly write down the police state and advocate for this?
            1. Vasyan1971 10 May 2020 19: 30 New
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              Everything is good in moderation.
              The United States, knowledgeable people say, is a "police" state to an extent. In Germany, according to rumors, your like-minded people "walking, talking, disapproving" are being pressed today in full. In France, they pressed it just now ...
              What are you calling for? To anarchy? Do you only hope to lead? Be afraid of your desires ...
              1. Revival 10 May 2020 19: 35 New
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                I am not calling for anything.

                They always vote that in the United States they’ll shoot for a plastic cup, not that everything is soft with us.

                Here, for example,
                (Russian newspaper May 1, 2020) In Michigan, quarantine protesters seize the local capitol
                Several hundred residents of the US state of Michigan seized the local capitol in protest against the quarantine imposed by the authorities, reports The Guardian. Reportedly, gunmen were seen among those gathered. "
                People with weapons captured the capitol without opposition.
                Trump called on the governor to make concessions to the protesters.
                What do you think, an agreed rally?
                1. Vasyan1971 10 May 2020 19: 41 New
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                  Quote: Revival
                  I am not calling for anything.

                  Then what is the bazaar about?
                  According to the founder of VKontakte, Pavel Durov, the United States is a tough police state, which is the leader in terms of the number of people in prison.

                  Do you really think that the “protesters” all this will not come back later?
                  1. Revival 10 May 2020 19: 45 New
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                    When he comes around then we'll see, but for now they wanted to and went out.
                    Imagine such a meeting with us and oh God, without permission?
                    And this also comes around?
                    Do you think it’s possible here for the judge to make a decision like this? Yeah ...
                    (Russian newspaper 28.04.2020/12/02 XNUMX:XNUMX).
                    Shooting ranges in the US opened contrary to quarantine
                    A group of activists for the right to use weapons in the US in a judicial proceeding has opened shooting ranges in spite of the quarantine introduced in the country. According to The Hill, previously firearms in Virginia sued the local governor, who banned all non-vital enterprises, including shooting galleries, during the coronavirus epidemic.
                    The defendant was the head of Virginia Democrat Ralph Northam. Its plaintiffs accused of violating their constitutional rights and won this process.
                    In accordance with the decision of the state district judge announced yesterday, Virginia shooting ranges will now work even during the COVID-19 pandemic, since local authorities cannot violate the basic rights of American citizens. In particular, it is about the second amendment to the country's constitution guaranteeing the right to arms to US citizens. "
                    1. Vasyan1971 10 May 2020 19: 52 New
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                      Quote: Revival
                      When he comes around then we'll see, but for now they wanted to and went out.

                      Empty from the series "And Baba Yaga - Against."
                      The state is a political form of organization of a society in a certain territory, a political-territorial sovereign organization of public authority,
                      possessing an apparatus of control and coercion, which subordinates the entire population of the country
                      .

                      So it was and it will be so. Everywhere and always. The rest is an empty chatter, possible in a well-fed and peaceful environment.
                      1. Revival 10 May 2020 20: 05 New
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                        I already understood that you have nothing to say
                      2. Vasyan1971 10 May 2020 20: 05 New
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                        Quote: Revival
                        I already understood that you have nothing to say

                        You just don’t hear.
              2. your1970 11 May 2020 13: 06 New
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                Quote: Revival
                Several hundred residents of the US state of Michigan seized the local capitol in protest against the quarantine imposed by the authorities, reports The Guardian. Reportedly, gunmen were seen among those gathered. "
                People with weapons captured the capitol without opposition.

                under US case law in Michigan, citizens have the right to enter the local government with weapons - but nothing more. In fact - they went to a permitted place, stood there and slowly left ....
                Governor NOT accepted the proposals and NOT made concessions ....scored armed people like "breaking into the Capitol" ...
                It’s easier for you because the rallies there are unauthorized and with weapons - if the US authorities spit on them? !!!
            2. Revival 10 May 2020 19: 35 New
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              In France, they beat up before the abolition of pension reform
              1. Vasyan1971 10 May 2020 19: 45 New
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                Quote: Revival
                In France, they beat up before the abolition of pension reform

                And yet.
                Canceled one, drag the other.
                1. Revival 10 May 2020 19: 47 New
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                  But we definitely haven’t been canceled.
                  But whether it is dragged there or not is not yet known, but it is clearly visible that this was canceled!
                  1. Vasyan1971 10 May 2020 19: 54 New
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                    Quote: Revival
                    But whether it is dragged there or not is not yet known, but it is clearly visible that this was canceled!

                    Is it straight and clear?
                    1. Revival 10 May 2020 20: 05 New
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                      Why this empty comment, nothing to say?
                    2. Vasyan1971 10 May 2020 20: 09 New
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                      Quote: Revival
                      Why this empty comment, nothing to say?

                      I think brevity is the sister of talent.
                      What do you see clearly there?
                  2. Revival 10 May 2020 20: 08 New
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                    Yes, it’s clear and indisputable, we haven’t been canceled
                  3. Vasyan1971 10 May 2020 20: 17 New
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                    Quote: Revival
                    Yes, clearly and clearly

                    The power will change rhetoric, it will achieve its goal. Anyway.
                    Quote: Revival
                    we have not been canceled

                    They will always be dissatisfied. Anyway.
                    WG or its possible analogue (and it will be mandatory) need to be canceled? To protest the crowd taxied?
                  4. Revival 10 May 2020 20: 19 New
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                    Yeah, 90 percent against pension reform, are those the same "will always be dissatisfied"?
                  5. Vasyan1971 10 May 2020 20: 21 New
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                    Quote: Revival
                    Yeah, 90 percent against pension reform

                    Where is the droushka?
                    Quote: Revival
                    I am not calling for anything.

                    Or do you call?
                    Sound
                    Quote: Revival
                    straight clearly and indisputably
                    ?
                  6. Revival 10 May 2020 20: 24 New
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                    Do you deny elementary things?
                    Do you think that the overwhelming majority of the pension reform was?
                    Even Putin admitted in the final speech, signing that yes people are against, but please treat with understanding ...

                    And where did you see the call?
                    Or do you think about appeals and spread it to others?)
                  7. Vasyan1971 10 May 2020 20: 42 New
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                    Quote: Revival
                    Do you think that the overwhelming majority of the pension reform was?

                    I believe that the vast majority did not care.
                    Quote: Revival
                    And where did you see the call?

                    The fact of the matter is that it is not clear what you are seeking.
                    Quote: Revival
                    I am not calling for anything.

                    Quote: Revival
                    That is, you openly write down the police state and advocate for this?

                    What do you advocate? About the "frankly police state" has already been said. With him, you would be silent and go in formation.
                    Quote: Revival
                    Get permission from the one I want to criticize?
                    It is logical of course ...
                    And if he himself is expected to refuse me then what?

                    Is logical. Common practice. Refuse? Only if protests interfere with the rest. Have you allocated a place? Buz on health. But this is not what is needed. Need scandal and hype. Therefore, to crush the "freedom-loving" have. And at the same time the adjoining garbage, who wants to wander around under the guise. If the authorities lack power, we get what, for example, is happening in Ukraine today. Was it "on the Independence Square"? Was it worth it? For whom did you try?
  • Korax71 10 May 2020 21: 59 New
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    Strange. And in our country every rallies ends in riots, arson, pogroms and broken heads and faces of security officials? It’s not correct to compare a little. The same mattresses not so long ago had an action against making amendments to the 2nd amendment, so there the people with trunks and equipped came out and no one shot, and the people heard power request
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    2. Vasyan1971 10 May 2020 22: 30 New
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      Quote: Korax71
      Strange. And in our country every rallies ends in riots, arson, pogroms and broken heads and faces of security officials?

      Of course not. And thank God! But this does not mean that the WG or other profiled structure is not needed. Or not needed, though?
      Quote: Korax71
      there the people with trunks and equipped came out and no one shot anyone, and the people heard power

      In the United States, power does not fundamentally negotiate with terrorists. And armed anti-government protest is terrorism. It is only in Syria that the existence of an “armed opposition” is allowed, for well-known reasons. Yes, and "armed and equipped" people were only for a masquerade. Nobody would start shooting - otherwise the khan would come to everyone indiscriminately. Right away. Therefore, this is not necessary. The same story with Mount Carmel cries out. By the way, it is not known what is still going on there. The precedent must be stopped. Otherwise, first for the amendment, shake the trunks out, then, when you like it, they will go for the transfer of traffic lights. It was fun, it’s hard to have a hangover.
  • Revival 10 May 2020 19: 29 New
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    That's right, so as they say do not complain later, this is such a universal advice that a lot of people can do it
  • pv1005 10 May 2020 18: 49 New
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    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: = VolodeY =
    Demonstrations to disperse are getting ready!

    Navalnenok preoccupied, or what? Do not go to the Lechina assembly and you will be happy.

    I look at the site more and more liberals minusers becomes.
  • tagil 10 May 2020 16: 32 New
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    Do not disperse but shoot and throw grenades (new). We have already dispersed so many demonstrations so that the trunks of old machine guns have melted. Burn esche.
  • naburkin 10 May 2020 13: 15 New
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    It turns out 56 apiece. Not expensive for wholesale?
    1. Altona 10 May 2020 13: 33 New
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      Quote: naburkin
      It turns out 56 apiece. Not expensive for wholesale?

      ------------------------
      No one has canceled the cut. The "Highly Spiritual" must live on something, not only on cabbage and chevrons. Although in the current dollar the exchange rate is nonsense. But the cost is unlikely to exceed 5-7 thousand.
      1. Clerk 10 May 2020 13: 38 New
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        No one has canceled the cut. The "Highly Spiritual" must live on something, not only on cabbage and chevrons

        Well, what an article about FSVNG can’t do without another fan attack!
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          Well, what an article about FSVNG can’t do without another fan attack!

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          And the same "defenders" of police power and arbitrariness with the same substantive arguments.
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            And the same "defenders" of police and arbitrariness

            Well, come on, tell me what police are and arbitrariness. I think if we really had police power, then you wouldn’t have written such comments so simply, and you would have been left at your address a long time ago.
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              Well, come on, tell me what police are and arbitrariness.

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              Please do not poke me, I live more and know you too. Read the Constitution first and the Police Law, the Russian Guard has an analogue. And to dress in a suit of the Sobrovtsa and citizens to sprinkle without introducing themselves, and I can.
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                It’s debatable that it’s more than me - you look like a hysterical young man pale with a burning eye, to whom the non-living with all the vast expanses of the endless Runet "opened their eyes to reality."
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                  It’s debatable that it’s more than me - you look like a hysterical young man pale with a burning eye, to whom the non-living with all the vast expanses of the endless Runet "opened their eyes to reality."

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                  I am 51 years old, for your information. So moderate your tone. I also have a "defender" of the Motherland.
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                    And I’m 57 and I am the heir to the Korolev blood! Here everyone about himself can unsubstantially write anything about himself.
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                      And I’m 57 and I am the heir to the Korolev blood! Here everyone about himself can unsubstantially write anything about himself.

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                      Well, sit there, heir. I told you my real personal data. And nobody gave you the right to judge others, much less poke.
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                        Well, you stick on the road! Well, especially since no one gave you the right to reproach others with illegal actions!
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                Rosguard has an analogue

                It is interesting to know which one?

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                And to dress in a suit of the Sobrovtsa and citizens to sprinkle without introducing themselves, and I can.

                Give an example. Prove that it was precisely the Sobrovets, and not a compromiser dressed as a camera player.

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                Read the Constitution first and the Police Act,

                Read about the responsibilities of the FSVNG first, about agreed and non-agreed rallies.
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                  Read about the responsibilities of the FSVNG first, about agreed and non-agreed rallies.

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                  There is no concept of "inconsistent rallies." Citizens have the right to assemble peacefully and without weapons under the Constitution. Rosguard has no obligations to screw and beat citizens. Do not write nonsense. I am not obliged to prove to you a “clerk”, you are not a judge or a prosecutor, you will find the Old. So go forest and read the laws.
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                    There is no concept of "inconsistent rallies." Citizens have the right to assemble peacefully and without weapons under the Constitution.

                    And if at the same time they block roads - i.e. they do not allow fire engines to get to the place of fire, and ambulances to the sick? And if at the same time they burn and spoil the property of citizens - break windows, turn cars over? If they disturb the peace of citizens at night? Is that why the rallies should be coordinated with the local municipal authorities?

                    Quote: Altona
                    Rosguard has no obligations to screw and beat citizens

                    It is their responsibility to ensure the rule of law. And if some create provocations, riots and commit unlawful acts, then they will be screwed and beaten.
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                      And if they block roads, i.e. Do not allow fire engines to get to the place of fire - fast - to the sick? And if at the same time they burn and spoil the property of citizens - break windows, turn cars over?

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                      There was no such thing, especially if "they burn and spoil the property of citizens", but there was a lawlessness of the guards. This was the case in 2002, when the youth instigated such unrest at Manezhka, the Russian team lost to Japan, and immediately passed a law on extremism out of the ears. I am ashamed not to know this. And the fact that last year there were performances in Moscow at the elections to the Moscow City Duma, then the guards showed themselves in all their glory. So do not replace the concept of stupid arguments. Even if citizens hold wrong beliefs in your opinion, this does not give you the right to limit their rights and incite social discord. At 57, it would be necessary to have a stronger memory and, moreover, be able to compare events.
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                        There wasn’t such a thing, especially if “they burn and spoil the property of citizens”, but the lawlessness of the guards was

                        Maybe you should remind you of the events of the 93rd in Moscow, when the so-called the “peaceful demonstration” of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation on the Garden Ring crushed the troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the police, and then having mastered their weapons and trucks, went to storm the Ostankino television center?

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                        And the fact that last year there were performances in Moscow at the elections to the Moscow City Duma, then the guards showed themselves in all their glory.

                        This is when most of the protesters had passports unbroken? lol

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                        Even if citizens hold wrong beliefs in your opinion, this does not give you the right to restrict their rights and incite social discord

                        Well, no matter what citizens are not dissatisfied with - no one gives them the right to violate the law and order.
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                        Maybe you should remind you of the events of the 93rd in Moscow, when the so-called the “peaceful demonstration” of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation on the Garden Ring crushed the troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the police, and then having mastered their weapons and trucks, went to storm the Ostankino television center?

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                        So it was necessary to start from this that you are a fan of fascism. Goodbye, Mr. Prigozhinsky bot. In the same 1993, the White House was shot peacefully from tanks. This in your assessments is visible on the other side of good and evil.
                        PS Present your passports unbroken, otherwise it’s not the case, you are inciting social and now ethnic hatred.
                        PPS Law and order does not mean protecting the interests of the richest members of society.
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                        So it was necessary to start from this that you are a fan of fascism. Goodbye, Mr. Prigozhinsky bot.

                        Why would it suddenly be fascism? Fascism was in the Supreme Soviet - there was such a gathering of radical communists, a military junta and nationalists!

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                        In the same 1993, the White House was shot peacefully from tanks.

                        Well, it was not necessary at first to arrange unrest throughout Moscow, attack law enforcement officers, seize the city hall and take everyone hostage in it and fire at the Ostankino with a grenade launcher. And then they were given change - now they complain!

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                        PS Present your passports unbroken, otherwise it’s not the case, you are inciting social and now ethnic hatred.

                        Yeah, now I’ll ask them to return back to Russia almost six months later and ask for the scans of their passports.

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                        incite social, and now ethnic hatred.

                        Well, yes, yes, your cause is holy, and whoever is against it is that enemy.
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                        Well, yes, yes, your cause is holy, and whoever is against it is that enemy.

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                        Of course, you justify the events of 2002 unconditionally when drunken youth smashed the center of Moscow with impunity. Where were all these vaunted right guards? I judge simply by their actions in either case. Where these actions were justified, and where there was simply arbitrariness. No one disputes the powers of the right of guards if they are applied in accordance with the law, and not by oral order to violate the norms of the law. That's all. If the society does not have social regulators and dialogue with feedback, then the machine and bayonets will not help. This was shown both in 1917 and 1991.
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                        Of course, you justify the events of 2002 unconditionally when drunken youth smashed the center of Moscow with impunity. Where were all these vaunted right guards?

                        Oddly enough, they were engaged in ending the riots.

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                        No one disputes the powers of the right of guards if they are applied in accordance with the law, and not by oral order to violate the norms of the law.

                        What are some known cases of violations of the law during the cessation of unrest?
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                        But these:
                        The most sensational
                        1. Beat the woman in the stomach straight at the camera.
                        2. Grabbed a man on a run, broke his leg. They lied that they had detained during the rally, but damn it, the cameras were let down, it turned out that the rally had not yet been.
                        Has anyone been punished?
                        For injuries, excess, false testimony in court !?
                        No! None!
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                        1. Beat the woman in the stomach straight at the camera.

                        Again you rush with this staged photo as with the holy tablets. We know all these cases when a photographer hangs around and a provocateur approaches the guards - either rolls a barrel on them, or falls on their hands or under their feet - here is the photo of the "bloody regime atrocities"!

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                        2. Grabbed a man on a run, broke his leg. They lied that they had detained during the rally, but damn it, the cameras were let down, it turned out that the rally had not yet been.

                        And why did he hang around and take pictures of their equipment? Who gave him the right to shoot? Nothing that the object was guarded? And about the fracture, he has already filed a lawsuit.
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                        And do you think that the National Guard is in agreement with the photographer? Do they work together? Or do they have the right not to restrain themselves and beat a woman with a causeless cause?
                        2. The fact that he photographed the technique themselves invented?
                        And what kind of photo can you even break your legs?
                        3. So when they answer for lies, the court first claimed that they had detained him during the rally.
                        Who was punished for false testimony?
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                        And do you think that the National Guard is in agreement with the photographer?

                        No, I’m more than convinced that the guardsmen are not unaware of a contract with the photographer, and they don’t even suspect that they can be approached by another provocateur who will be naughty or rush into his arms / legs - and somewhere nearby a photographer waiting for this, who was ordered to photograph how guardsmen illegally beat / detain an innocent citizen.

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                        2. The fact that he photographed the technique themselves invented?
                        And what kind of photo can you even break your legs?

                        There are many articles on this topic on the Internet. He was engaged in jogging, stopped at the city hall, started taking pictures of the guardsmen and their equipment, and as he ran into plenty of fun, he ran. Naturally, in this case they detained him. His leg was unintentionally damaged - just when he was knocked to the ground, they did not notice that there was a curb under his foot. Did not calculate a little place of his "landing". But even in this case, the victim has already prepared a lawsuit.

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                        . So when they answer for lies, the court first claimed that they had detained him during the rally.

                        A link to the resource approving this please!
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                        That is, when striking a woman’s stomach, the employee simply didn’t take into account that this would be filmed, and that's okay, right?
                        Do you just need to beat with care so that no one sees? You can beat her right-winger in the stomach, right?
                        2. Well, let's start in order, please discard the fact of photographing the equipment, please
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                        That is, when striking a woman’s stomach, the employee simply didn’t take into account that this would be filmed, and that's okay, right?

                        And why did you get the idea that he beat her? Maybe she just leaned in front of him at the moment when he took a step forward. And by the way, where is this very photograph - I can’t find it in Yandex to see it.

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                        2. Well, let's start in order, please discard the fact of photographing the equipment, please

                        Lord, this designer himself in all his interviews to all online publications says so - even in the opposition media! Here is an example:
                        https://ovdinfo.org/stories/2019/07/28/zachem-ubegal-avtoru-logotipa-moskovskogo-metro-slomali-nogu-pered-akciey-u-merii
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                        You really don’t slide like that, or else it’s funny and uninteresting.
                        The whole country discussed the video with a blow to a woman’s stomach!
                        Weakly you are somehow trying to get away from an uncomfortable question.
                        2. I already made a decision, I repeat: even if I took a picture of an autosack on the street, what law is it prohibited?
                        Is it so delayed for this that you can even break your leg without notice, what is such a huge danger from the photo?
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                As I understand it, you are fiercely defending NG, because you are a member of it? The right to take pictures & videos is secured by a citizen by law, part 4, article 29 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Service provision by an NG employee in a public place is not included in the list of information constituting . secret. it’s very bad when the guardians of the law either don’t know this law or openly violate it, which is an abuse of power.
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                Well, so the sun in your hut gooda question about something else. you are trying to whitewash and acquit NG employees. I wrote to you above in the commentary on the basis of which they do not prohibit photo-video shooting. because often they don’t really know their rights and obligations — an unfortunate fact that speaks about the methodology selection of personnel. Attempts to justify this by caring for the safety of citizens look very poor.
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                That is, you don’t remember what you write about this runner or do you expose the employees of his detainees with oaks?

                "As far as I know, he was detained not so much for shooting, but as under article 20.2 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation. By shooting and running, he only attracted attention to himself."

                Administrative Code of the Russian Federation Article 20.2. Violation of the established procedure for organizing or holding a meeting, rally, demonstration, procession or picket
                1. Violation by the organizer ...

                That is, he attracted attention and was credited to the organizers of the rally in violation of the rules for holding it even before the rally began !? Oh how!
                Well then, of course, everything is legal, right?

                That is, the runner is not where necessary.
                When it’s not, then shooting is something that is not necessary.
                And detained as the organizer of the rally violating the rules of his providence !!! )))
                Or is he also an Argentinean Polish spy?

                Do you catch the logic? Or is it secret?
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                Well, it’s clear, that is, they were detained just in case, everyone who did not like, about not around, but anywhere.
                Well, that's for sure then everything is according to the law.
                Hold the guys all in the morning, run around, you know, somehow suspiciously
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            Which has not yet begun, for the type of "but not fucking running here"?
            An interesting reason, legal, right?
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            That is, in your opinion, in this case it never began and never ended?))
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    [/ quote] And why did he hang out there and take pictures of their equipment? Who gave him the right to shoot? Nothing that the object was guarded? And about the fracture, he has already filed a lawsuit. [Quote]

    Well these are not my words ???? The fact that you are now trying once again to shield incompetent comrades and to bring here an article of the Code of Administrative Offenses imputed to a person, and the proceedings in this case were carried out with a huge number of violations, as well as the process of detention. NG employee, it’s not very likely that they would threaten their life and health.
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    You understand very well in what cases force detention is possible and one of them is an attempt to harm the health of an employee. In other cases, let's be honest, forceful detention methods are overkill. Like two big differences when stones fly into employees cars, they beat glazing and, shouted out word, “shame”, or some other expression, especially since law enforcement officers themselves are not shy in expressions at such events.
    [/ quote] In fact, by his actions, he simply looked from the side of the guards as one of the protesters. [quote]
    laughing good according to your logic, if I am of a large physique, without a mamma, with a face overgrown, I am a potential client for detention on charges of terrorism or banditry? don’t you think that in that situation, if the employee thought, then you should first make sure that the suspicions are justified? This wording can also be used to detain a granny in a market with a bunch of greenery grown in a garden on suspicion of spying for a mattress. As for the materials of the proceedings, she refused to include recordings from surveillance cameras at the time of detention, the investigator did not interrogate Konovalov at all. Well, should I explain to you that often the court takes the side of the security forces request
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    Well, it was not necessary at first to arrange unrest throughout Moscow, attack law enforcement officers, seize the city hall and take everyone hostage in it and fire at the Ostankino with a grenade launcher. And then they were given change - now they complain!

    They didn’t shoot you in the 91st. And the sniper on the roof of the city hall did not sit.
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    They didn’t shoot you in the 91st.

    Who are you?
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    Who are you?

    You, champions of democracy and accomplices of Yeltsin.
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    You, champions of democracy and accomplices of Yeltsin.

    It would probably be difficult to shoot almost the whole country and the CIS countries? Would you have enough strength?
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    It would probably be difficult to shoot almost the whole country

    What? Since when has Moscow become "the whole country"?
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    What? Since when has Moscow become "the whole country"?

    And since when only Moscow was the champions of democracy and Yeltsin?
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    And since when only Moscow was the champions of democracy and Yeltsin?

    Have you seen many rallies for Yeltsin in other cities? Personally, there were about twenty people in our room with one banner, “Down with the Emergency Committee!”. And that’s it. What did they do with the referendum on preserving the USSR? Remember.
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    What did they do with the referendum on preserving the USSR? Remember.

    According to his result, Gorbachev first tried to implement the project "Sobza of Soviet Sovereign Republics" - a kind of softer form of the USSR in order to keep the republic from secession. He did not satisfy the leaders of the republics. He proposed to them the project of the “Union of Sovereign States” - essentially a confederation. Again, he did not satisfy the leaders of the republics - they were determined to leave the USSR. In addition, the GKChPists made their contribution - they finally finished off any desire to save the USSR. In addition, according to these projects, the republics became part of the RSFSR sovereign republics - like Uzbekistan or Kazakhstan. Those. Russia itself would have left horns and legs for the sake of preserving the USSR. And then just a parade of sovereignty, and the communists were removed from power.

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    Have you seen many rallies for Yeltsin in other cities?

    I won’t say anything for other cities, but from personal communication with people from different places I concluded for myself that the Communists and their supporters can be listed in the Red Book - or taken for compulsory treatment to Kashchenka.
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    from personal communication with people from different places I concluded for myself that the Communists and their supporters can be listed in the Red Book - or taken for compulsory treatment to Kashchenka.

    You have a good democracy, yes. As we begin to find out why today's supporters of the authorities are ready to apply repressions against others, and Yazov did not do this, the question looms right there: “What about us?”
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    As we begin to find out why today's supporters of the authorities are ready to apply repressions against others, and Yazov did not do this, the question looms right there: “What about us?”

    Do you propose living in either Latin America or Ukraine - roughly speaking, to make a coup almost every year? And what is the best cure for dandruff is the guillotine - so what do you think? For an ordinary person, what’s the use of it? Enough, already made conclusions. Especially having seen enough of the color revolutions of the zeros in the CIS, the revolutions in Syria and Libya, the division of Yugoslavia and the coup in Ukraine.
    PS - someone at the present time for the rallies was sentenced to capital punishment - execution? Who is knocking on apartments at night, being taken to the Lubyanka, tortured? What kind of "repression" are you talking about? You’re better off reading the story — how in the 19th century in all countries, in such cases, they simply shot protesters on the spot. About the execution in Novocherkask. The way they confront the buzoters now is a kindergarten.
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    Enough, already made conclusions.

    So, in your opinion, the coup of the 91st, 93rd and the collapse of the Union was the only correct one, and all other political meetings and rallies of the opposition are anti-state. I did not expect another.
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    So, in your opinion, the coup of the 91st, 93rd and the collapse of the Union was the only correct one, and all other political meetings and rallies of the opposition are anti-state. I did not expect another.

    I would not call the events of the 91st and 93rd coup. They are a coup according to the version of the Communists. Nobody overthrew and shot them - the people simply followed Yeltsin. This is not what Lenin arranged in the 1917th - there was no terror or civil war.
    The collapse of the Union - perhaps so. If, in order to prolong its existence, it was necessary to cut Russia into separate republics, then maybe the road is there for him?
    And as for the rallies, I will say again that they are agreed upon with the local municipal authorities and not agreed upon. In the first case, they agree on the venue, time, number of protesters, their goals - so that neither the protesters interfere with the life of the settlement, nor the settlement to hold the rally. Well, the inconsistent is when it becomes known only when a crowd has already appeared that interferes with traffic and disturbs citizens (it is quite possible that it even smashes windows, sets fire to and turns over other people's cars and provokes fights)
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    Nobody overthrew and shot them

    Yeah. And from the tanks, they fired at idle. Someone fell out of the window, someone just shot himself. An empty argument. I read somewhere at Barents that the Constitutional Court of the USSR recognized Yeltsin’s actions illegal. Tired of overfilling, I'll go to dinner.
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    Yeah. And from the tanks, they fired at idle.

    ... on the upper floors, for psychological pressure, where according to the calculations no one should have been. We would like to purposefully kill - we would have beaten high-explosive and incendiary along the basement and first floors, where all the defenders concentrated.

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    The Constitutional Court of the USSR declared Yeltsin’s actions illegal.

    The way it is. The Constitutional Court recognized Yeltsin’s decree No. 1400 as not conforming to the constitution. But here we need to make an amendment to the fact that the court acted within the framework of the current constitution - the constitution of the 78th year, "Brezhnev". And according to it, the country was a Soviet republic. Only now, again, I repeat that neither the USSR nor the RSFSR was already there - but there was a sovereign Russian Federation, which, moreover, was presidential republic. In addition, Yeltsin was supported by all the security forces (if you do not take into account the supporters of the Armed Forces among the veterans of Afghanistan, Transnistria and Abkhazia) from the Ministry of Defense, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Security. Therefore, the appearance of the COP flew by. Now, if the RSFSR existed, and the post of president did not exist, then Yeltsin would be tamed.
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    PPS Law and order does not mean protecting the interests of the richest members of society.

    Well, once again they started their old song about the oligarchs ... why don’t you say anything about your old party functionaries?
    Since when is the suppression of provocations and incitement of the crowd to unlawful acts in the form of damage to municipal and private property to protect the interests of individuals?
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    Well, once again they started their old song about the oligarchs ... why don’t you say anything about your old party functionaries?

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    About whom, for example? About Sobyanin? So this is your functionary. He has long surpassed Luzhkov. And his deputies are Baturin.
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    About whom, for example? About Sobyanin?

    What do you incriminate him? Do you have material evidence of his crimes on the basis of which you are convinced that he is a thief? So you can haul up to the pillar because it is crooked!
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    How interesting .. And here is Stalin, Beria. Berry, Yezhov personally killed at least one person ?? But why don’t they like them so much, they call them murderers. But pieces of paper and allegedly verbal orders, so they all slandered them under torture))))) ... And do you think that even if there are material evidence, someone will publish them after Mrs. Vasilyeva? ... ... And now, in your opinion, Serdyukov also not involved in the theft of the Defense Ministry? .... Why then removed the innocent? Urgently, he needs to be returned to the place of the minister! ...... And Kozhgedovich back to the Ministry of Emergencies, otherwise the taiga is on fire. Let it stew)))))
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    Don’t worry - there are archival documents on which Molotov, Mikoyan, Stalin and others put their signatures for execution. They have a lot of things. So many that they did not receive rehabilitation. Read at least "Note by A.N. Yakovlev, V.A. Medvedev, V.M. Chebrikov, A.I. Lukyanov, G.P. Razumovsky, B.K. Pugo, V.A. Kryuchkov, V.I. Boldina, G.L. Smirnova in the Central Committee of the CPSU "On the anti-constitutional
    good practice of the 30–40s and the beginning of the 50s ”" from the 88th year - this is not for you to read Medusa.

    There will be material evidence on Serdyukovs and others - then we'll talk. And while one grandmother whispered at the entrance to the entrance ...
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    Notes ??? ..... Well, those who came to power scum the previous ones. This was before the revolution under the kings. And there is after the anti-revolution. Therefore irremovable fears and amends the constitution))
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    This note is a complete document on many pages. Why it is called a note, I do not know. But I can’t bring it in the comments - the site administration will not approve articles in the comments.

    Quote: V.I.P.
    Well, those who came to power scum the previous ones. This was before the revolution under the kings. And there is after the anti-revolution.

    That document is dated the 88th year. Khrushchev condemned Stalin and his minions during the debunking of the personality cult.

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    Therefore irremovable fears and amends the constitution))

    What is wrong with the amendment when those who have not lived in our country for 25 years cannot enter the civil service? And in the defense of traditional family values: when "dad" is "dad" and "mother" is "mum", but in no way "parent No. 1" and "parent No. 2" with a non-traditional orientation? But is it that our territories are no longer surrendered to anyone on any grounds?
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    These amendments simply mask the main one, for the sake of which everyone started a business and spent zeroing the deadlines. Well, those amendments that complicate impeachment and prosecution of the former president .... And they are obliged to treat children under the current constitution for free !!! Or the authorities do not consider them citizens of the country ???.
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  • Revival 10 May 2020 23: 01 New
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    And what, without amendments, will continue to distribute land?
    That is, only amendments will interfere? So again correct as it should
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  • Revival 11 May 2020 01: 07 New
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    Yes, it's not me changing it as I want and when I want
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    In the same 1993, the White House was shot peacefully from tanks. This in your assessments is visible on the other side of good and evil.

    And what does the same SOBR have to do with it, and the rest of the Russian Guard units?
    The shooting of the building of the Supreme Council on the conscience of the Taman and Kantemirov divisions belonging to the Ministry of Defense. And from the Ministry of Internal Affairs (at that time) there was only “Vityaz” at the building of the Supreme Council, which did not storm the building.
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    it does not give you the right to restrict their rights and incite social discord

    There are a number of cases where this is permitted by law. I would like to hear more about social discord!
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    Quote: clerk
    There are a number of cases where this is permitted by law. I would like to hear more about social discord!

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    Of course, if this law does not suit, then, as Sharapov said in the famous film, you can make a brush out of the law. Yes, I am also not satisfied with the views of the protesters, but nevertheless, this does not justify the use of fascist methods, if about social discord.
    PS The Communist Party is not involved in the events of 1993 about which you write. These were the performances of Anpilov’s “Labor Russia”. In addition, at that time there was a vacuum of power caused by the actions of Yeltsin with his new Constitution and other things.
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    Quote: Altona
    Of course, if this law does not suit, then, as Sharapov said in the famous film, you can make a brush out of the law.

    There is a category of citizens who in no way accept laws - they prefer the “thieves move” and “concepts” more.
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    Yeah, we don’t throw drugs on order ..
    True just once ... publicly
  • Cyrus 10 May 2020 15: 31 New
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    Well, libshiza ... regularly, what now hang you or what?
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    And so law enforcement can, well then there are no questions
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    Quote: Revival
    ... True, just once ... publicly ...

    Do you mean Golunov?
    My personal opinion: what was discovered during his time belonged to him personally. And for this he had to answer.
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    Quote: clerk
    There is a category of citizens who does not accept any laws - they like their “concepts." He probably spoke in relation to this category?

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    When Chechens beat a police sergeant in the Moscow metro who interceded for a girl, where is the Russian Guard? When the Kadyrovites humiliate the military personnel of the Russian Federation by putting them at the side of the truck, where is the Rosguard? And the Rosguard, after all, does not want to drive dissenting "liberal" youth only, which we ourselves have raised and educated. Bad, good, what is. Youth who do not need police force. And about the "non-fallow". In Ukraine, virtual events were held by May 9, so I don’t need to draw enemies from scratch here. We have more than one wagon of our own Krasnovists and Vlasovites that we can assemble before Siberia.
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    Quote: Altona
    When Chechens beat a police sergeant in the Moscow metro who interceded for a girl, where is the Russian Guard?

    There was already one such, some kind of boxing champion.

    Quote: Altona
    When the Kadyrovites humiliate the military personnel of the Russian Federation by putting them at the side of the truck, where is the Rosguard?

    They have already started peddling for this.

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    And the Rosguard, after all, does not want to drive dissenting "liberal" youth only, which we ourselves have raised and educated.

    You can see what you teach the youth - “this uncle is bad, this bad, and I'm good. Now go and fuck”!

    Quote: Altona
    In Ukraine, virtual events were held by May 9, so I don’t need to draw enemies from scratch here.

    And where I said that there are all our enemies there, in fact, there are pro-Russian minded people.
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    Quote: Altona
    The Communist Party is not involved in the events of 1993, about which you write. These were the performances of Anpilov’s “Labor Russia”

    But what about Unity - consisting of representatives of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Fatherland faction - the military and radical communists, the group of deputies "Russia" led by Baburin and consisting of communist and nationalist parties? And, also, “Agrarian Union” was in “Unity”!

    Quote: Altona
    In addition, at that time there was a vacuum of power,

    There was a dual power at that time, when not only the USSR, but even the RSFSR disappeared into oblivion - the RF was already there - but the USSR constitution and governing bodies of the RSFSR (House of the Supreme Council) still remained. And they (the Supreme Council) did not like very much that Russia would go further without them.

    Quote: Altona
    this does not justify the use of fascist methods,

    What are you talking about? Did someone cut out pieces of meat from their bodies with crooked daggers or burned their eyes with coals?
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    This is when most of the protesters had passports unbroken? .You have to say this ... This is darkness ...
    Apparently you have had changes that cannot be cured ....
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    You probably organized access control there?
  • Mordvin 3 10 May 2020 16: 33 New
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    Maybe you should remind you of the events of the 93rd in Moscow, when the so-called the “peaceful demonstration” of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation on the Garden Ring crushed the troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the police, and then having mastered their weapons and trucks, went to storm the Ostankino television center?

    Can you recall the words of Shoigu that the police in the old square had only four PMs, and therefore he gave out a thousand assault rifles at the request of Gaidar?
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    Can you recall the words of Shoigu that the police in the old square had only four PMs, and therefore he gave out a thousand assault rifles at the request of Gaidar?

    So the fact that the Communists seized the weapons of the Ministry of Internal Affairs by force is normal, in your opinion, and the fact that in response to this, militia supporters of Yeltsin were given weapons - is that bad?
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    It means that the Communists took possession of the weapons of the Ministry of Internal Affairs by force.

    Where did you get this from?
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    The trucks of the VV MVD and weapons were seized from the crushed and disarmed police units and the VV MDV from the Garden Ring.
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    Quote: clerk
    The trucks of the VV MVD and weapons were seized from the crushed and disarmed police units and the VV MDV from the Garden Ring.

    Weapons were issued directly in the White House, there was its own weapons. Or Shoigu is lying about 4 PMa.
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    Weapons were issued directly in the White House, there was its own weapons. Or Shoigu is lying about 4 PMa.

    The trucks of the Ministry of Internal Affairs were also in the arms of the Supreme Council building? And RPG-7? But I didn’t know about the weapons in the building itself. However, this alone does not plead with the fact that the Communists were in arms. As well as not pleading the fact that the Communists handed out weapons to those who did not have the right to carry and use them.
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    Were the trucks in the arms of the Supreme Council building too?

    Trucks are state owned. The Supreme Council and their supporters considered themselves legitimate authority. About where the RPGs are from - not in the know. If the Supreme Council had won this confrontation, now there would have been completely different alignments.
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    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Trucks are state owned.

    Trucks "squeezed" from the units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs VV from the Garden Ring. They even had their symbolism.

    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    The Supreme Council and their supporters considered themselves legitimate authority.

    Note - the Supreme Council of the RSFSR, which was no longer, but was the Russian Federation. Even the Communist Party was not the Communist Party, namely that the Communist PartyRF.

    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    If the Supreme Council had won this confrontation, now there would have been completely different alignments.

    Here I agree with you.
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    Quote: clerk
    and there was the Russian Federation

    Is it right that the trinity in Belovezhskaya Pushcha dismissed the USSR, spitting on the referendum of the 91st year?
    Quote: clerk
    Trucks "squeezed" from the units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs VV from the Garden Ring. They even had their symbolism.

    I repeat once again. At that time, the Supreme Council considered itself a legally elected government, so who has deprived anyone of what is a moot point.
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    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Is it lawful that the trinity in Belovezhskaya Pushcha dismissed the USSR, spitting on the referendum of the 91st year

    And which of the leaders of the Union republics was worried about the results of the referendum of the 91st? Moreover, Gorbachev even worked according to the results of the referendum - I already mentioned to you about "SS_Sovereign_R" and "SSG". Only nobody needed it. And to someone - Russia - and territorially harmful.

    By that time, as the “trinity from Bialowieza” had signed its agreement, almost all the republics of the USSR had openly declared their independence from it. The USSR already did not exist in fact. This contract was a kind of legal divorce and death certificate.

    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    I repeat once again. At that time, the Supreme Council considered itself a legally elected government, so who has deprived anyone of what is a moot point.

    Well, I’ll also repeat to you that this was a government body of a state that has already been defunct for a couple of years, which, moreover, did not dissolve itself and did not obey the demand for dissolution.
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    and now the question is, after that, did you see many cases of pogroms from the side you saw?) they suddenly became quiet for many years. As for the right to rally, approx. and now let's imagine that everyone wants to hold rallies anywhere and anytime. I’ve been walking with my daughter when the crowd extras suddenly suddenly for some reason decided that it was cool to walk around the Arbat. Have you seen how they walked there? but I saw it. there is nothing good about it. I had to quickly take the child away so that whatever happens. what about my rights eh? but there are still options. some ki will bring simple explosive packages and panic. what then will the crowd do know? and she can’t be stopped. and what do you think is better to prepare for trouble or then bulging your eyes order to try to restore? and that the funniest thing to happen is that you are on the WG and you will drive the wave. that made it like that.
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    Well, yes, that's right, that's it, under the good pretext of your peace, we will forbid everything, otherwise it will not work.
    But, if suddenly a meeting is approved, then everything is possible, such a meeting is immediately useful.
    Double standards, yes no, of course ...
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    who said to ban? there are always civilized options. approve ensure the safety of people and rally even before stupefaction.
  • Revival 10 May 2020 16: 10 New
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    A rally criticizing the official, only with the permission of the official, but you will give a lot of praise, the golden formula, the main thing is to put it into the law and prohibit everything according to the law.
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    This is a normal formula. or get vests like in Paris.
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    And of course, to ban everything and normal logic ..
    Well then, there are no questions.
    It’s foolish for us to discuss the rights of people if you deny that people have rights.
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    They always vote that in the United States they’ll shoot for a plastic cup, not that everything is soft with us.

    Here, for example,
    (Russian newspaper May 1, 2020) In Michigan, quarantine protesters seize the local capitol
    Several hundred residents of the US state of Michigan seized the local capitol in protest against the quarantine imposed by the authorities, reports The Guardian. Reportedly, gunmen were seen among those gathered. "
    Trump called on the governor to make concessions to the protesters.
    What do you think, an agreed rally?
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      What is true is true. In the US, police have the right to open fire to kill if they feel a danger to themselves.

      The USA is a different country with its own laws and culture. Their orders are not applicable to ours.
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      Yeah, it’s very convenient to refer loudly only to the retirement age, and how to help people to provide or something like that there is such a mentality there, and it doesn’t suit us at all ...
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    No, you can’t, the gut is thin, it’s only capable of carrying nonsense on the Internet, you still haven’t indicated what kind of arbitrariness, which means you are a chatterbox.
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  • Revival 10 May 2020 15: 16 New
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    The National Guard, when one name is enough ..
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    Grandchild's welfare must be protected
    1. Cyrus 10 May 2020 15: 34 New
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      You need to save your remaining brains, otherwise almost everything has already leaked.
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        Hi little hamlo, don't be sick
  • Incvizitor 10 May 2020 13: 39 New
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    It depends on what, if with a good body kit is normal.
  • gcn
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    Army military weapons. A set of shops, a cleaning tool, warranty service can add lights, sights, handles, pbs. We don’t know that we bought a bare barrel or a complete body kit for the kit. On a citizen, you buy everything separately and it’s not cheaper.
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    on OKR "weather-cloth"

    It’s a very speaking name for this OCD, for some reason, the workers of the counter are immediately remembered.
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    AK400 IT'S ABOUT WHAT?
    1. Pavlik K. 10 May 2020 20: 40 New
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      USM like ak12, sight-front sight like ak102-105, barrel cover. like aks74u, folding telescope, any sights, grenades.
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    everything secret, sooner or later, becomes apparent .... soon we will find out ...
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    I probably would have chosen a cartridge for the M43 .. in the usual, modernized version. with a good DTK and "bells" for 72 rounds ... and I would have added a tactical handle, obligatorily)) .1 magazine on the machine and three on its side and belly. .and you can go against anyone ... at least against horned bats .. cartridges of all types are needed. I remember also stuffing the tape and stuffing the first 5-7 tracers ... sometimes after one ... when the tape approached the last cartridges the tracers were on ... warned. change the tape ... and after three tapes it was easy to change the barrel again. and anyway .. who cares? how gritso I can go with my opinion to one very interesting place ... where there is awl .. and a place of discovery of adventure) yes and much more .. but for something like that in general, I went.))
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    Why, I put on my ak74m body kit from the anti-aircraft gun, forend and receiver cover, put a scope (pc, rare g), the captain came and forced to take it off, I tried to convince that there were no TTX changes and everything was within the law, but you’re the boss in our army we will not destroy, why should this machine if you put the handle or face make you remove it?
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      they cannot force me. and the AKC all that is needed is: the DTK, tactical pen, and the receiver cover, so that you wouldn’t go there, here .. now they put it. and nothing more, by and large, he doesn’t need. request Well, high-capacity stores. at 72 I'm quite happy. 2 tambourines and the rest with carob stores of 30 rounds each. I’ll supplement the rest with a samovodov to the level that I would like. I did not try LTS. Yes, I do not need him. it’s better then a collimator. the main thing is that what ammunition is needed. from sighting, tracing to the MOH and BZT and armor-piercing .. and then mark each store with electrical tape. To know what to fasten .. and it happens. .a the usual two diamonds of 72 and enough .. well, you can still fill a couple or three of 30 and mark with a red ribbon. I on G-3 and on Fn so stuffed. one store of 18 rounds of ammunition was set only and put it deep under the armor plate .. if I find such grenades, it can come in handy. in the rest there are usually cartridges and there was a separate store, striped, there were only armor-piercing ones .. but they often shoot. the trunk into the trash can be uncracked. and who likes AK74 then ..on health ... at least golden. if the soul asks) request
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        Quote: parkello
        tactical pencil

        What kind of fashion is it like to keep Kalash like a Schmeiser? Kalashnikov himself was against this. Okay, I’ll understand there if the fore-end is nicely pre-shaded that you can strip your hand about it — but why do it on a standard combined arms? This is not a light machine gun that is difficult to keep when firing automatic fire from the hip. Instead of a handle, we just held the machine in a biathlon style - under the store.

        Quote: parkello
        I on G-3 and on Fn so stuffed.

        And where did you serve the fact that you came across HK G3 and FN (FAL? FN2000?). Hopefully not in the computer forces?
        1. parkello 10 May 2020 18: 46 New
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          no, not in the computer ... he served in Greece, we have this main weapon after 1954 .. before that the M-1 guarantor was the main one. During the Korean War, all its shortcomings surfaced and as a necessary measure turned out to be FN phalo and G-3A3. and about the tactical handle .. well, you can say it is necessary with large-capacity stores .. the machine becomes heavier. and so if something, then you can rest it with a pen on a stone or a wall .. any emphasis. and if you shoot grenades, then it is necessary. and you do not need to pee your forend before shrinking. either put a bipod or a tactical handle. replace the cover, DTK and nothing else is needed. I shot grants with fn phallo..good thing, like a mortar. You can throw grenades through the house. Or directly into the trench. canopy ... we also have AK. but also as M-1 mainly in the warehouses. cartridges are different. and so you can request, request that would be issued. in this case, the cost of ammunition will have to pay. and provide spent cartridges to get new ones. so no one wants to toil with mura and lie in warehouses. and 308 Vin we have a single cartridge .. that a machine gun that a rifle. other M-1s are slightly longer. 63 mm in length, and the AK shorter, generally 39 m. Therefore, both are stored in warehouses, because there are no cartridges in production. need to purchase.
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            But do AK and AKM with 7.62x39mm cartridges allow firing with rifle grenades?
            So what is better? "The right hand of the free world" or the good old "Kalash"?
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              if you charge an idle to the store and under the condition that there will be a new DTK, sharpened just for this, as with the FN, then you can of course. I saw such compensators now mass-produced, even for the AK74M. as for the right hand .. the "free" world, I will say this ... give me any rifle from which I have already shot ... and that it interests me little better. FN is very accurate solitary. G-3 is not so accurate, but it has fewer parts and it is easier to completely disassemble it. and AK is not as powerful as the G-3. Well, the cartridges are different .... I personally have enough power for his eyes. but it's me, I can’t speak for others either. others prefer 308 and 5.56. but I don’t recognize the little things. at the shooting AK punched a barrel of water right through .. and the one who was sitting behind the barrel would clearly not be lucky, and the M-4 (5,56 mm) pierces only on one side from the same distance. that's why I don’t love them .. too ladies' caliber. but at the same time he has good persistence and accuracy. only to me they are not important. I need the machine to consume all types of bullets, both incendiary and armor-piercing .. understand? and who cares about accuracy, let them take low-power 5,52 (45) and 5.56 mm
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  • Tagan 10 May 2020 18: 25 New
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    Quote: Revival
    Do not go
    Do not say
    Approve
    Know your place
    And you will be happy, right?

    You are like Lenin in October. Live peacefully, and that’s it :)
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    Quote: Revival
    The National Guard, when one name is enough ..

    He came up with it himself and took care. Rosguard, actually.
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      Finally, the National Guard belay https://rosgvard.ru/не поленитесь перейти по данному адресу и удивитесь:росгвардия-это федеральная служба войск национальной гвардии Российской Федерации.
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        Quote: Korax71
        Finally, the National Guard

        Quote: Revival
        The National Guard, when one name is enough ..

        From the series: "I heard a jingle, but don’t know where it is."

        Troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation
        Subordination
        Rosguard (Rosguard is the central command and control body of the National Guard of the Russian Federation (VNG of Russia), created on the basis of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia. It refers to state militarized organizations that have the right to acquire military weapons.)
        Includes
        The central office of the VNG of Russia.
        Commands of the districts of the VNG Russia
        - Units and military units of the operational purpose of the VNG of Russia,
        - Special motorized units and military units of the VNG of Russia,
        - Units and military units for the protection of important state facilities and special cargoes of the VNG of Russia,
        - Units and military units of special purpose and intelligence of the VNG of Russia,
        - Aviation military units of the VNG of Russia,
        - Naval military units of the VNG of Russia,
        - Military units and institutions providing the VNG of Russia,
        - Medical facilities of the VNG of Russia,
        - Cultural institutions of the VNG of Russia,
        - Educational institutions of the VNG of Russia.
        Territorial bodies of the VNG of Russia:
        - Special quick reaction units of the VNG of Russia.
        - Mobile special forces of the VNG of Russia.
        - Special Forces Center for Rapid Response and Aviation of the VNG of Russia,
        - Departments of private security of the VNG of Russia,
        - Licensing and permitting units of the VNG of Russia
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          Bob laughing there is such a thing: Decree of the President of the Russian Federation dated September 30.09.2016, 510 No. XNUMX "On the Federal Service of the National Guard Troops of the Russian Federation". There is no such thing as "Rosguard" in it. It is mentioned in the provision on the Federal Service for Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation as a second name. what do you like.
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            Quote: Korax71
            it is mentioned in the regulations on the FSVNG of the Russian Federation, as a second name. then anyone really likes it.

            Exactly.
            In accordance with the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation dated April 5, 2016 No. 157, the Federal Service of the National Guard Troops of the Russian Federation (Rosguard) was established.

            The Russian Guard is a federal executive body that exercises the functions of formulating and implementing state policy and legal regulation in the field of activity of the national guard forces of the Russian Federation (further - national guard troops ), in the field of arms trafficking, in the field of private security activities and in the field of private security.

            Type: Ivan Ivanovich, hereinafter referred to as the "Customer".
            But this is not about rivets. It's about
            Quote: Revival
            The National Guard, when one name is enough ..

            What does it mean? Type: fu? Or type: Revival, when one name is enough? Shout out from the bushes: “Cops of Kazly” and headlong, with a heart-beating heart from sweet horror, run into the caches behind the garages, show off your “feat” in front of the same “heroes”?
            Though Ros, even Nat, but these are Internal Troops. Whatever you call it. They were, are and will be. EVERYONE AND ALWAYS. Although the "police" State, at least not.
    2. Revival 10 May 2020 23: 13 New
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      Generally the National Guard.
      Law chtoli take a look, even the name ..
  • Tagan 10 May 2020 18: 38 New
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    Well, yes, that's right, that's it, under the good pretext of your peace, we will forbid everything, otherwise it will not work.
    But, if suddenly a meeting is approved, then everything is possible, such a meeting is immediately useful.
    Double standards, yes no, of course ...

    Double standards with you. And why don’t you say that in Germany, the rivals were given a snot "for nothing"?
  • GLUHOI 10 May 2020 19: 31 New
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    https://youtu.be/VdxqEyNNlzE
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  • GLUHOI 10 May 2020 19: 41 New
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    https://youtu.be/VdxqEyNNlzE
  • Revival 10 May 2020 19: 41 New
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    (Russian newspaper 28.04.2020/12/02 XNUMX:XNUMX).
    Shooting ranges in the US opened contrary to quarantine
    A group of activists for the right to use weapons in the US in a judicial proceeding has opened shooting ranges in spite of the quarantine introduced in the country. According to The Hill, previously firearms in Virginia sued the local governor, who banned all non-vital enterprises, including shooting galleries, during the coronavirus epidemic.
    The defendant was the head of Virginia Ralph Northam. He was accused of violating his constitutional rights and won this process.
    By decision of the state judge, the Virginia shooting range will now work even during the COVID-19 pandemic, as local authorities cannot violate the basic rights of American citizens. In particular, we are talking about the second amendment to the country's constitution guaranteeing the right to arms to US citizens.
  • vadivm59 10 May 2020 20: 54 New
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    here it’s divorced that AK of any series !!! and “black” and the 100th, and the 200th, and the 400th. and the new 12,15, maybe there are still some. I personally have already stopped monitoring the latest AK. I can go crazy.
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  • Tagan 10 May 2020 21: 51 New
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    Finally, the National Guard belay https://rosgvard.ru/не поленитесь перейти по данному адресу и удивитесь:росгвардия-это федеральная служба войск национальной гвардии Российской Федерации.

    Actually, the Rosguard. What is the main official name? Not the National Guard. This is visible to the naked eye. And from the same site name in particular.
    1. Revival 10 May 2020 23: 18 New
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      By decree of the President of the Russian Federation V.V. Of April 5, 2016, No. 157, "Issues of the Federal Service of the National Guard Troops of the Russian Federation" in order to ...
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      The name of the site is not an official name ..
      So in the law, the National Guard
  • Comrade Michael 11 May 2020 00: 12 New
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    I think this structure will be reduced soon, and the money will be given to the real armed forces. And that will be right. Yes, and officials need to be reduced at times, there is not enough money for weapons programs.
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      1. Comrade Michael 11 May 2020 01: 24 New
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        We are a poor country. And our economic crisis will be severe. In such quantities, these structures are not needed. I think they will not be able to give a full rebuff to the real riots and will not be able to withstand a real armed and trained enemy. And here neither a beautiful uniform, nor new machine guns with grenades will help .... Against unarmed peasants this is too much, against an armed enemy this is the last century. I do not see any benefit in such a numerous structure. Money must be invested in a real, full-fledged army. I could be wrong, but we have more gendarmes of all kinds per unit of civilian population than in France or Italy. Do you seriously believe that conscripts of the Russian Guard will be able to stop riots without firearms? And the use of a firearm will entail an avalanche of other problems. In my opinion, it's all just just on the paper of the authorities ... But in life porridge turns out ..
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      Quote: Comrade Michael
      I think this structure will be reduced soon, and the money will be given to the real armed forces. And that will be right. Yes, and officials need to be reduced at times, there is not enough money for weapons programs.

      Come on. Vovans have always been - both during the Empire, and during the Soviet era, and in "democratic Russia." Only signs change - the internal guard, the gendarmes, the internal troops, now here is the Rosguard.

      In blessed Soviet times, when power seemed to be people's, VV had its own tanks, its own artillery and its own aviation. And three dozen divisions.
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        There is little sense from them. And they are not needed in such quantity. A normal army is needed, and they are only for the protection of objects. A waste of money tanks and artillery and aviation for them. But they do not fight terrorists anyway, but specialists are normal. And what, did they save the USSR? Or did they manage in Chechnya without an army?
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          Quote: Comrade Michael
          A normal army is needed, and they are only for the protection of objects.

          The army does not have the right to be used on the territory of the country without declaring a state of emergency (this was done to avoid attempts to use army units in internal political squabbles). In fact, the same Chechen campaigns were to be carried out exclusively by the forces of the explosives.
          In addition, the army has excessive firepower for acting on its own territory, and the tactics of "sprinkling with chalk" on its own population somehow do not really want to be applied.
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          But they do not fight terrorists anyway, but specialists are normal.

          They don’t fight at all? And then who is working on the UK now? Really one FSB with its scanty forces? Or an army to which it is generally prohibited?
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          And what, did they save the USSR?

          From a lot of blood? Yes. If not for explosives, then in the national republics of the blood would be even more.
  • tolmachiev51 11 May 2020 04: 12 New
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    Pride bursts straight for our "guard" - they will naughty people from the 200 series. What a "caring" leadership in the country.
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      Quote: tolmachiev51
      Pride bursts straight for our "guard" - they will naughty people from the 200 series. What a "caring" leadership in the country.

      Oh, one more sympathizer for the bearded children.
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    Quote: tolmachiev51
    Pride bursts straight for our "guard" - they will naughty people from the 200 series. What a "caring" leadership in the country.

    Watching whom you call people. If you mean hamadryl with inverted eyes, arranging provocations and smashing everything in its path, then let it be fun. These fascists / extremists, oh, sorry, the liberal public (people, in your opinion) should know their place. ;)
  • Super 11 May 2020 11: 54 New
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    Good news! Work brothers!