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Khrushchev: Stalin planned military operations around the globe

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Khrushchev: Stalin planned military operations around the globe

Nikita Khrushchev at a closed meeting of the XX Congress of the CPSU: “I must say that Stalin was planning (military) globe operations. Yes, comrades, he will take the globe and show the front line on it. ”


This documented quote is given by the famous stories Alexey Isaev.

Continuation of the Khrushchev quote:

I tell Comrade Vasilevsky: show the situation on the map.

Alexey Isaev notes that these statements can be defined at best as fiction. There are many documents that reflect real data on how Joseph Stalin was reported on the situation at the front. The daily situation was reported on maps prepared by the General Staff of the Red Army.

Another myth being circulated: Joseph Stalin at the beginning of the war was poorly versed in military matters, or even not at all. "Only in the year 43-44 did he begin to more or less understand the essence of military affairs."

Alexei Isaev notes that such statements appeared at a time when there was no access to documentary sources. Now such access is available, and therefore myths are exposed quite easily.

The historian’s lecture at the Stalin Readings is presented on the YouTube Day channel on YouTube:

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    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 9 May 2020 13: 08 New
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      Khrushchev: Stalin planned military operations around the globe

      Yes, Nikita, around the globe, because unlike you, the party organizer-functionary of the small-town, Joseph Vissarionovich was a strategist, a person with a vision of perspective ...

      1. lelik613
        lelik613 9 May 2020 13: 12 New
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        Tzimes is that Stalin had a globe CAM whistle-blower
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 9 May 2020 13: 14 New
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          Quote: lelik613
          Tzimes in the fact that Stalin himself was a globe

          I’m looking at the NSC, and before my eyes ... Kovtun. Similar flawed small-town viper.
          1. lelik613
            lelik613 9 May 2020 13: 21 New
            +7
            The land there is, "the place is not good."
      2. gurzuf
        gurzuf 9 May 2020 16: 03 New
        +2
        I recalled the phrase of Joseph Vissarionovich about Khrushchev - calm down. Is Joseph Vissarionovich a fool allowed to plan military operations.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 9 May 2020 21: 54 New
          +1
          And by and large, Stalin Khrushchev appreciated. It is enough to see what posts Khrushchev held from the mid-30s to 1953. Key regions: Moscow, Ukraine. Member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the CPSU (b), and then the Bureau of the Presidium of the Central Committee of the CPSU.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 9 May 2020 23: 05 New
            +1
            Stalin kept him for being "useful".
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 9 May 2020 23: 17 New
              +2
              Correction: there was a "useful dypak" before the moderation.
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 13: 13 New
      +2
      Absolutely right.
    3. Andrey Mikhaylov
      Andrey Mikhaylov 9 May 2020 13: 30 New
      +1
      I fully support you! Happy Great Victory Day to you.
    4. d ^ Amir
      d ^ Amir 9 May 2020 13: 40 New
      +3
      You are absolutely right ...
      Happy Holidays dear Soforumites !!!
    5. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 9 May 2020 13: 56 New
      +6
      Quote: 210ox
      Site administration, let's not on this Holiday Day

      smear the authority of VO by posting like this:
      Khrushchev: Stalin planned military operations around the globe

      I will skip all the country's leaders to the HMS, EBN, GDP and DAM ... Name at least one operation planned by these people ... But you do not print that not one of them had the slightest idea about military service in general their merits and contributions to victory are extremely reckless. Although, you can analyze the results of the Chechen and Georgian wars ... But can they be compared to the war in which 70 cities and villages were destroyed.
      People write correctly. To publish such articles, and even on the great Victory Day ... It's just disgusting ... negative
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 9 May 2020 15: 23 New
        +8
        More about I.V. Stalin, in the context of the DPR ...

        We, on the Opinion portal of the Public Movement “Donetsk Republic”, launched a petition to move the Shevchenko monument in front of the Government building (former Regional State Administration) to another location (Shcherbakov Park) and install a monument to Stalin in its place.

        http://mnenie.oddr.info/ustanovit-pamyatnik-i-v-stalinu-na-ploshhadi-pered-domom-pravitelstva/#comments



        Petition text:

        29.04.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX Posted by Administrator

        In connection with the information on the consideration by the Administration of the Head of the Donetsk People's Republic of the issue of restoring the monument to I.V. I consider it necessary for Stalin in Donetsk (Stalin) to propose to consider the possibility of installing it in A.V. Zakharchenko at the site of the monument to T.G. Shevchenko.
        Considering that a breakthrough in the industrial development of Donbass and Donetsk was connected with the period of Stalin’s leadership, in particular, in the most difficult international situation, a monument to the great general secretary should be erected on the square in front of the Government House - for example and imitation.
        Monument T.G. Shevchenko, as an integral symbol of Little Russian culture, I propose to install in one of the parks of culture and rest (for example, in the Central Park of Culture and Rest named after AS Shcherbakov).

        The author of the petition is Kozlovsky Maxim Sergeevich.


    6. Moreno
      Moreno 9 May 2020 17: 21 New
      +1
      I agree!!!
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      2. Range
        Range 9 May 2020 15: 13 New
        +1
        Yes, these cheap things are not imprisoned for such provocations, especially on Victory Day. In general, nonhumans moved out of coils.
    2. Pavel57
      Pavel57 9 May 2020 13: 54 New
      +3
      For such material I will not support VO.
  3. mark1
    mark1 9 May 2020 13: 06 New
    +4
    [quoteStalin planned military operations around the globe] [/ quote]
    Which emphasizes the scale of personality.
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  5. alone
    alone 9 May 2020 13: 14 New
    +2
    I don’t believe that Vasilevsky could report to him the situation at the front, because the situation at the front can be reported to someone who can make this or that decision .. Khrushev could not be such a person .. He proved it with his decisions after the war at the post first person state
  6. Uncle Izya
    Uncle Izya 9 May 2020 13: 18 New
    +7
    How did this bastard Khrushchev become a secretary general? It is a pity that he was not shot for Stalingrad yet and most of all he passed death sentences
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 9 May 2020 13: 49 New
      +5
      Quote: Uncle Izya
      How did this bastard Khrushchev become the Secretary General?

      Intrigue, intrigue, and again intrigue ...
  7. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 9 May 2020 13: 18 New
    +3
    Stalin thought globally ... an important quality of the leader of such a power as Russia ...
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 9 May 2020 13: 38 New
    +4
    Nikita Khrushchev at a closed meeting of the XX Congress of the CPSU: “I must say that Stalin planned

    Stalin, in contrast to this short-circuit does not / D \ omerka, PLANNED their actions .... i.e. THOUGHT !!!
    what did many other figures try to portray brain activity, after it, is this a big question ???
  9. Dart2027
    Dart2027 9 May 2020 13: 38 New
    +2
    It’s interesting, but how was it possible to fight at all when the army was commanded around the globe? You can treat Stalin differently, but this is obvious nonsense.
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 9 May 2020 13: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Dart2027
      You can treat Stalin differently, but this is obvious nonsense.

      "the more monstrous you lie, the sooner they will believe you" A. Hitler, Mein Kampf "(1925)
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 9 May 2020 17: 24 New
        +1
        I know this statement, but here it is not monstrous, but simply stupid.
  10. knn54
    knn54 9 May 2020 13: 43 New
    +5
    "Corn aphid" - the people in vain will not say.
    "Khrushchev entered into a battle with the 'dead lion' and emerged defeated!"
    W. Churchill.
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 9 May 2020 13: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: knn54
      Khrushchev entered the fray with the "dead lion" and came out of it defeated!

      but he defeated the country
  11. Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 9 May 2020 13: 46 New
    +4
    Khrushchev: Stalin planned military operations around the globe
    not being able to reach the same heights as the head of state that Stalin reached, Khurshchev was forced to level the level of Stalin in order to rise himself, the problem is that he thereby struck the foundations of Soviet statehood from which the Union has not recovered
    1. Range
      Range 9 May 2020 15: 19 New
      -1
      Quote: Barmaleyka
      not being able to reach the same heights as the head of state that Stalin reached, Khrushchev was forced to level the level of Stalin to rise himself ...

      This is exactly what the USA is doing now to hang itself.
  12. seacap
    seacap 9 May 2020 14: 08 New
    +1
    Right up to his elbows in blood, until anurez he was afraid of the leader, to whom he had repeatedly told to calm down and not muzzle the people, having no education, I doubt that he himself knew where the north is on the map and how the maps differ from the globe, the "top" he managed to show his intellect in all its glory during the years of his short reign, laying the foundations for the destruction of the state and the Stalinist legacy. In general, on such days the site could not publish these materials, how many lies and spitting on the Victory Day of the SOVIET People are already possible.
  13. Kuroneko
    Kuroneko 9 May 2020 14: 08 New
    +3
    Another myth being circulated: Joseph Stalin at the beginning of the war was poorly versed in military matters, or even not at all. "Only in the year 43-44 did he begin to more or less understand the essence of military affairs."

    Actually, he had a phenomenal memory. At meetings, he instantly called and specific plants, and their leaders, and designers. How he remembered exactly where and which division is currently located, under whose command, and so on.
    The only "weakness" he had about the fleet (well, he loved the big, harsh ships). But this did not affect the course of the Great Patriotic War.
  14. ximkim
    ximkim 9 May 2020 14: 44 New
    +1
    All a happy holiday. hi As always, the Rulers ate one another’s friend, scolded, and killed. The whole point is that most rulers came to power to realize their ideas. In the history of Russia there are few leaders who did not want the country to stand still. But then again, there are no rulers who. (how to say.), knowing that when he leaves (that is, here he is the receiver), concern for the homeland will continue. There has not yet been such a case. Stalin wrote himself in the story that you can do a lot of things and not blame anyone on TV, only things.
  15. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 9 May 2020 14: 50 New
    +2
    Nikita the fool was noted not only for this, few people remember why Stalin wrote to him "calm down". dry winds and desertification of plowed lands, the notorious 1.200000, the list goes on
  16. 1536
    1536 9 May 2020 15: 07 New
    +1
    Yes, at I.V. Stalin had strategic thinking, which allowed him to mentally cover the entire globe, and not just the bottom of the vodka bottle or the “arrow” with which one could steal and sell something.
  17. leonid-zherebtcov
    leonid-zherebtcov 9 May 2020 15: 34 New
    0
    delirium of the bald freak-Trotskyist Khrushchev ...
  18. AllBiBek
    AllBiBek 9 May 2020 15: 49 New
    +1
    A jackal can even kick a dead lion. Arabic proverb.
  19. tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 9 May 2020 20: 59 New
    +1
    Khrushchev, as a person and a leader, was anecdotal (I really want to write foul language). In the words of Churchill: "Khrushchev began to fight the dead and left it defeated."
  20. Revolver
    Revolver 9 May 2020 23: 10 New
    0
    They also say that Stalin and Beria were allegedly shot in vain, in a row and indiscriminately. And if you look, you’re not shot. At least one - Khrushchev. It cost Stalin a reputation, and Beria also life.
  21. Barmal
    Barmal 9 May 2020 23: 39 New
    +2
    The problem of the USSR after Stalin's death was the fact that Comrade Zhukov chose Khrushchev and shot Beria. If this comrade does the opposite, the probability of a fall in the economic development of the Soviet Union is rapidly vanishing. Nobody is going to tax peasants on apple and currant trees, reform collective farms into state farms, cut warships. But Zhukov did not choose Beria. Lohanul. And after that he spent a lot of time in "exile". That is why it is dialectic.
  22. Yury Siritsky
    Yury Siritsky 10 May 2020 12: 26 New
    0
    This maize invented various nonsense to defame Stalin.
  23. Radikal
    Radikal 10 May 2020 20: 25 New
    0
    Khrushchev: Stalin planned military operations around the globe
    Well, then it sounded something like the passage about the production of galoshes for the USSR in Africa now! lol
  24. ruben morelli
    ruben morelli 10 May 2020 21: 51 New
    0
    Under the leadership of the great Stalin, the army and its people, he saved the world from Nazism.
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