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US official on the need for the Russian Federation to abandon new weapons: "Russia's economy in ruins"

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In the US, they commented on the possibility of extending the strategic offensive arms agreement with the Russian Federation. In fact, we are talking about the latest fundamental arms treaty, where the United States formally still remains a party. Earlier in Washington, they said they could refuse to extend it.


In an interview with the American press, the US special envoy for arms control, M. Billingsley, described the conditions under which the States are ready to extend the scope of the START treaty.

According to Billingsley, the main condition in this case is the need to include in the contract new weapons systems - "those that have begun to appear lately."

The American official said that the United States of Russia "is not going to concede anything in this regard." He made it clear that the first thing we are talking about is the latest Russian weapons. This is about those that a couple of years ago in the USA called "animation", ironic about the statements of President Vladimir Putin.

The American special envoy, among other things, also announced that introducing such weapons into the new treaty (that is, actually abandoning them) is in Russia's interests, since “the Russian economy is in ruins because of the pandemic, and the budget directly depends from oil prices that will not be high in the near future. ”

Billingsley:

Russia needs to put aside its new programs (to equip the army with new weapons).

The statements of this official reminded the statements of Barack Obama, who at one time said from the rostrum about the "torn to shreds of the Russian economy."
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 9 May 2020 06: 20 New
    63
    Yes, you went ... Our economy is for us to decide what to do or not to do.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 9 May 2020 06: 29 New
      25
      US official on the need for the Russian Federation to abandon new weapons: "Russia's economy in ruins"
      а у вас,негры -рэперы...и чо ? "замволт" топить будете ? smile
      1. kjhg
        kjhg 9 May 2020 06: 51 New
        15
        I would not pay so much attention to the words of this official. They need to be perceived as the ideal option that would suit them. This is a kind of supreme goal for the negotiator, which, as everyone knows, will never be achieved, but the negotiator must voice it anyway. That's all. But to achieve the inclusion of new weapons in the treaty, the Americans may well count. And for us it does not change much. Judge for yourself, well, there will be 1 Poseidon and 1 Vanguard included in the contract, as 1 strategic missile and 1 warhead, respectively, and so what? There is nothing to worry about. On that and converge.
        Congratulations to all on Victory Day!
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 9 May 2020 06: 59 New
          22
          US official said

          We have Victory Day, with which I congratulate everyone!
          And you have blacks lynched. Arividerchi, official
        2. mig29mks
          mig29mks 9 May 2020 08: 21 New
          11
          Do they tell us to build weapons?
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            1. artifact
              artifact 9 May 2020 11: 18 New
              16
              Quote: Stas-90
              Without jokes, seriously, what will happen?

              Quote: Stas-90
              Does anyone have sound thoughts?

              мысль простая - начиная задавать такие вопросы, это первый шаг на скользкую дорожку предательства, знакомо понятие " окна овертона" ?
              1. Stas-90
                Stas-90 9 May 2020 13: 03 New
                -4
                Asking questions is the normal behavior of a smart person.
                And blindly believing is the road to nowhere.
                Remember Phrase:
                "Мы не рабы, рабы - немы".
                1. artifact
                  artifact 9 May 2020 13: 55 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Stas-90
                  "Мы не рабы, рабы - немы".

                  under such a slogan, the Russian Empire was lost - this is the first
                  Quote: Stas-90
                  Asking questions is the normal behavior of a smart person.

                  under such a Union of Soviet Socialist Republics collapsed-this is your second. by the way, in both cases, the authorities were associated with liberal inclinations.
                  admit honestly now what is the task before you - to finally finish Russia ??? for I do not believe in your naivety and not understanding what surrender can lead to (read betrayal). . .
                2. orionvitt
                  orionvitt 9 May 2020 14: 16 New
                  +8
                  Quote: Stas-90
                  Asking questions is the normal behavior of a smart person

                  The normal behavior of an intelligent person is to ask clever вопросы. А не нести бред типа "сдались бы немцам, пили бы баварское пиво".
                  1. Stas-90
                    Stas-90 9 May 2020 18: 16 New
                    0
                    Bavarian speak.
                    Although I didn’t read Hitler in the original, I heard that according to his plans the Slavs should have been destroyed, exiled, turned into a free slave. force. If we take this thesis as an axiom, then those who speak of Bavarian are simply fools.
                    So Hitler’s plans are set out on paper, and so to speak, everything is clear with him.
                    А где можно ознакомиться с планами наших потенциальных партнеров в настоящее время? В каких документах, в чьих выступлениях озвучена участь России после "демократизации"?
                    Brzezinski’s request not to quote. We have our own Zhirinovsky /
                    1. artifact
                      artifact 9 May 2020 20: 23 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Stas-90
                      And where can I get acquainted with the plans of our potential partners at present?

                      нужны прописанные планы? не нравится бздижинский !? абамка подойдёт, с его изолентой, министр обороны туманного Альбиона с его "Россия должна отойти и заткнуться", это только так - тезисы, не говоря про то что визжат подхрюкивающие. выше камрад написал про ПРАВИЛЬНЫЕ вопросы, вы же задаёте ПРВАКАТИВНЫЕ. по этому и суть ваша видна - кричать: - "урусс сдафайс"
                      1. Clerk
                        Clerk 10 May 2020 10: 06 New
                        -1
                        Quote: artifact
                        выше камрад написал про ПРАВИЛЬНЫЕ вопросы, вы же задаёте ПРВАКАТИВНЫЕ. по этому и суть ваша видна - кричать: - "урусс сдафайс"

                        SCHOOL ACKNOWLEDGING! 1 IN A GUN!
                    2. businessv
                      businessv 9 May 2020 22: 18 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Stas-90
                      В каких документах, в чьих выступлениях озвучена участь России после "демократизации"?

                      Как по мне, этот вопрос лишний! 90-е годы яркий пример "демократизации". Что ещё нужно озвучить, или прочесть, чтобы понять, что им надо? Именно это и является целью матрасни и либерастов - развал России и разграбление ресурсов на всей её территории, что уже не раз было - поляки в смутное время, антанта в гражданскую, немцы во время ВОВ. Наша цель - сохранить страну, прекратить разграбление олигофренами... т. е. олигархами, простите и обеспечить нашим гражданам достойную жизнь. Для это Россия должна быть сильной! С Днём Победы всех! soldier
                      1. Range
                        Range 10 May 2020 02: 20 New
                        +1
                        This Evgey resource got his throw-up provocative articles on the day of the Great Victory. In general, they survived from the mind, but most likely became insolent at their own perdition. I wonder why Russia will not buy this resource, because exchange bills (money) are an illusion of power over people. Just cut paper - hypnosis. Macaronovirus will demonstrate this in all its glory.
                    3. orionvitt
                      orionvitt 10 May 2020 11: 39 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Stas-90
                      А где можно ознакомиться с планами наших потенциальных партнеров в настоящее время? В каких документах, в чьих выступлениях озвучена участь России после "демократизации"?

                      Гитлер, это креатура и выкормыш запада, ничего нового он не придумал. Так что если хотите узнать об участи России после тотальной и повсеместной западной "демократизации", читайте Гитлера.
                3. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 10 May 2020 17: 14 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Stas-90
                  "Мы не рабы, рабы - немы".

                  Sir! You at least observe elementary grammar! am
                  А то из вашего опуса получаются "немые" рабы, т.е. люди, лишенные дара речи! А не отрицание рабской зависимости человека... yes
                  1. Svarog51
                    Svarog51 11 May 2020 22: 40 New
                    -1
                    Alexander hi I agree in principle. We will be silent - we will be slaves. We will object - to citizens. We are not dumb cattle - we are people with our own opinions. And an opinion in favor of the state is directed. How else? It will fall apart without us, it will grow stronger with us.
                    Happy Victory Day, buddy! And to Rudolph my congratulations!
            2. Oden280
              Oden280 9 May 2020 12: 56 New
              +6
              Have you seen blacks in Africa? They fight between villages and live for 30 years and can neither read nor write. And they have medicine at the level of the Stone Age. That will be the same with us.
              1. Stas-90
                Stas-90 9 May 2020 13: 10 New
                -10
                I would like to know more. How will civilized people called Russians turn into Neanderthals?
                That is, with the first decree, the new president will close schools, hospitals .... that is, genocide will begin?
                In my opinion, this is from the area of ​​the Pershing accommodation at Disney Land ...
                1. artifact
                  artifact 9 May 2020 14: 02 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Stas-90
                  I would like to know more. How will civilized people called Russians turn into Neanderthals?
                  That is, with the first decree, the new president will close schools, hospitals .... that is, genocide will begin?
                  In my opinion, this is from the area of ​​the Pershing accommodation at Disney Land ...

                  н-ндааа,. пример соседей ни о чём не говорит !? тоже ведь цивилизованные были, а щас в чистом виде "Самали".
                  1. Stas-90
                    Stas-90 9 May 2020 18: 21 New
                    -5
                    What are the neighbors?
                    Something is not visible that they are bent there. Although the first channel has been tryingn for 6 years that a little bit more they will fall apart and crawl on their knees.
                    Although I haven’t been to Somalia, I think that neighbors have an average life two orders of magnitude better than in the aforementioned African country.
                2. Oden280
                  Oden280 9 May 2020 15: 47 New
                  +5
                  Just with whom you propose as president, our country will lose independence instantly. And then a civil war or voluntary surrender and tearing the territory into uluses. No one in the world is interested in preserving our country except ourselves. And all these that you are talking about are not interested in our country. They want dough for free and on our corpses. Although generally they are downs. They don’t know history and don’t know that traitors don’t get anything. They are corpses in any situation.
                  1. Stas-90
                    Stas-90 9 May 2020 18: 30 New
                    -8
                    Oh, right now, they’ll ban me.
                    But still.
                    Here is an American farmer. He lives curiously from the fact that his country is rich.
                    And what will change in the life of a peasant from the Vologda province if the SSBNs do not go to sea and the Unions cease to fly into space? He will live, as you put it, in the Vologda ulus, drink moonshine and mow hay. What will change then?
                    1. businessv
                      businessv 9 May 2020 22: 35 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Stas-90
                      Here is an American farmer. He lives curiously from the fact that his country is rich.

                      I read your comments and think - is it a bug scribbling? After all, such a heresy is not something to write - it is inconvenient to read! How can a poor country with a debt of 22 trillion be? The second world economy, in which 74% of GDP is the service sector, that is, not related to the real economy of the feature, is a myth in which everyone believes only because the American ruble is used all over the world and if you abandon this paper, the world will cover up a mess that everyone is afraid of. But sooner or later, this will happen and then we'll see how the mattress farmers will live and how rich their country will be! You must understand that if all the countries of the world (in reality, one China is enough) present mattress bonds for payment, a default will occur in the USA! They have nothing to pay for.
                    2. Oden280
                      Oden280 10 May 2020 05: 02 New
                      0
                      Поменяется то, что его просто не будет. Уничтожение наций придумал не гитлер, а "просвещённый" запад. Вспомните тетчер что говорила.
                3. SergGrey318
                  SergGrey318 9 May 2020 19: 25 New
                  +5
                  Of course, one could assume that it would be like in Poland or the Baltic states there. In principle, a normal life, a full life in a poor, weak-willed state, without statehood.
                  But this will not happen. Because Russia, in this game, has a completely different role and a different place on the board. Like it or not, Russia is not Poland and the Baltic states, and not even, God forgive me, Ukraine.
                  Speak of genocide? What is going on around you? We instill feminism, same-sex relationships, childfree and other crap nonsense. If only we did not breed. We are punching lawyers and economists who no one needs why. How many of them, in the country, shout: “Free cashier”?
                  And the right life, we are taught all sorts of buffoons and loafers. Our jesters earn more and live better than skilled workers. What is all this?
                  1. Stas-90
                    Stas-90 9 May 2020 20: 00 New
                    -5
                    Quote: SergGrey318
                    But this will not happen. Because Russia, in this game, has a completely different role and a different place on the board.

                    Here! That is the whole point.
                    Россия должна быть сверхдержавой. Это и пытаются нам все "патриоты" объяснить. Но возникает вопрос - Зачем?
                    Yes, Russia - wants to be a Player in the Big Game. The word Russia should be understood as the rulers of Russia.
                    But what good is the peasant from the Vologda ulus from this? Just as his grandfather was a beggar 300 years ago, so now he counts every penny. It turns out that we have a person for the state, not a state for a person. But it would be the other way around.
                    The Bolsheviks at least promised communism in n-twenty years.
                    А эти твердят, что РФ должна быть великой, но не отвечают на вопрос "А зачем?" Если все равно, все как были нищими, так и остаются.
                    Где бабло с тучных нулевых? Где зарплаты "как в европах"?
            3. skif8013
              skif8013 9 May 2020 14: 21 New
              +3
              Quote: Stas-90
              Quote: mig29mks
              Do they tell us to build weapons?

              What will happen?
              Funny question, right? But still.
              In the late USSR, feys walked among the people that you should not be allowed to build Disney Land because Americans would put Pershing instead of merry-go-rounds there. Rave.
              If you try to drop all the fakes and propaganda now.
              What will happen if Khodorkovsky-Gozman becomes president? And Russia will destroy nuclear weapons unilaterally.
              Will they burn Moscow? Will they all send us to Siberia?
              Without jokes, seriously, what will happen? Does anyone have sound thoughts?

              Nothing will happen, Russia will not !!!
            4. bk0010
              bk0010 9 May 2020 14: 54 New
              +5
              Quote: Stas-90
              Without jokes, seriously, what will happen? Does anyone have sound thoughts?
              At a minimum, it’s the same as with Yugoslavia: they will dismember, bomb someone, take profitable industries for beads, destroy the remnants of industry. To the maximum - creeping genocide (not all at once, but they will be destroyed sequentially and continuously, using neighbors).
        3. Ilya-spb
          Ilya-spb 9 May 2020 08: 44 New
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          I propose to the North American United States:

          1) Withdraw all armed forces from the countries of Europe and Asia.

          2) Return the territory of Alaska to the Russian Federation as the assignee of the Russian Empire.

          3) Transfer for unlimited storage the gold reserve from Fort Knox to the territory of Russia.

          4) An American official goes hiking on the Pososalkin strasse.


          All on the occasion of the Great Victory!
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 9 May 2020 09: 21 New
            +7
            Quote: Ilya-spb
            I propose to the North American United States:

            4) An American official goes hiking on the Pososalkin strasse.

            Ilya, why did you send him to Germany? recourse
        4. NEXUS
          NEXUS 9 May 2020 10: 14 New
          +6
          Quote: kjhg
          I would not pay so much attention to the words of this official.

          I do not want to overshadow such a holiday, but about US officials and generally world elites, here's a video ...
          You know, at first I thought that this was some kind of scenario for a cheap horror movie, but then, when I listened carefully, I felt uneasy.

          These 5 parts are just the beginning. There are more than 10 such parts in this film. A lot has been told there, and about the Nazis and about the royal families and about the Adrinochrome and much more.
          This is not propaganda, and I definitely don’t want the people who looked at it blindly to believe right away, but I think it's worth a look and a thought.
          1. Pivot
            Pivot 9 May 2020 23: 33 New
            +1
            Andrei, I heard about this for a long time, I'm afraid we can only speculate, but I firmly believe that creatures with a distorted consciousness are tearing into power around the world.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 10 May 2020 14: 51 New
              +1
              Quote: Pivot
              but I firmly believe that beings with a distorted consciousness are torn into power all over the world.

              Of course ... I’m thinking, if they start a war, and kill millions of centuries, and everyone knows this and somehow reacts already, like, well, yes, there is ... but when you say, they kill children by the thousands, here many people say, “how can it be!” But at the same time they acknowledge that for these creatures (I will not name them people, because they are not humans), people's lives are worth nothing.
              1. Pivot
                Pivot 10 May 2020 15: 41 New
                +1
                I think that bureaucrats are specially selected for such vicious bastards, it is more convenient to manage them.
    2. Walrus fang
      Walrus fang 9 May 2020 06: 42 New
      15
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, you went ... Our economy is for us to decide what to do or not to do.

      That's right .. This gosdepovsky official would have blurted out like in a training manual .. It would be better if the money were handed out to pensioners and good roads for NATO tanks were built to Moscow ..))))
    3. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 9 May 2020 07: 08 New
      +8
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, you went ... Our economy is for us to decide what to do or not to do.

      Some kind of obsolete training manual! Obama spoke about the torn to shred economy of Russia .... So this is when it was .... now this spell is about ruins. Self-hypnosis, does he have it?
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 9 May 2020 07: 18 New
        +4
        This already seems to be the genetic (post-sham and permanent) state of an educated American :: the American ass feels that the Russians will flog the most valuable thing in the American body mercilessly and repeatedly and he does not suspect how right he is and how long the Russians itch their hands (and legs !) do it. laughing
    4. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 9 May 2020 07: 27 New
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, you went ... Our economy is up to us to decide what to do or not to do

      Verily! What they are so worried about for our life, they can’t eat straight ... Let them calm down ... And they will watch documentaries ... About the war. Only our films. Maybe they will understand what? Although, where there ...
    5. letinant
      letinant 9 May 2020 07: 28 New
      14
      The American special envoy, among other things, also announced that introducing such weapons into the new treaty (that is, actually abandoning them) is in Russia's interests, since “the Russian economy is in ruins because of the pandemic, and the budget directly depends from oil prices that will not be high in the near future. ”

      What the hell care of us, it smelled straight 90s. I would even say CAME !!! With unemployment 32 million people. with the number of corpses more than any war, after 1945, go through the woods, gentlemen, and do not stumble!

      On my own behalf, WITH HOLIDAY, GREAT VICTORY !!!
    6. Civil
      Civil 9 May 2020 09: 14 New
      -1
      “The Russian economy is in ruins because of a pandemic, and the budget is directly dependent on oil prices, which will not be high in the near future”

      You’re not lying. Our economy will soon catch up and overtake the United States. If you don’t want to buy our oil and gas at a high price, then we will sell you timber and palladium for dollars. And there is also China, he will buy.
    7. siberalt
      siberalt 9 May 2020 09: 45 New
      +6
      If we conclude a new treaty on missiles with nuclear weapons, then all countries possessing such weapons, including the countries that are NATO members in full force, should participate in it.
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 20: 26 New
        +1
        Britain and France rail
    8. Boris ⁣ Shaver
      Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 May 2020 12: 30 New
      -1
      Quote: 210ox
      Yes, you went ... Our economy is up to us to decide what to do or not to do

      Elvira Sahipzadovna smiles mysteriously
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 20: 25 New
        0
        Sooner or later they will send to the chopping block
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 10 May 2020 00: 12 New
          0
          Quote: Cyril G ...
          will send

          Who will send?
  2. codetalker
    codetalker 9 May 2020 06: 30 New
    -5
    I probably don’t understand something, many talk about it ... How the introduction of new types of weapons into the treaty will lead to the rejection of them. Indeed, those systems that are part of the current agreement have not gone away, their number was limited. What is the essence of the problem?
    1. Pagan
      Pagan 9 May 2020 06: 54 New
      +7
      There will most likely be clauses on the ban on development and testing. And therefore, investing in such systems will not make sense. In addition, this is an additional lever of pressure on us - in any incomprehensible / favorable situation for Americans, we can say that we are violating this very treaty. Well and most importantly, a couple of lines on a piece of paper Americans devalue our superiority over them in strategic (!) Weapons.
      1. codetalker
        codetalker 9 May 2020 12: 55 New
        0
        Well, as you know, no one will sign such an agreement.
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 9 May 2020 19: 00 New
          0
          Well, such an agreement, as you understand I would like to believeno one will sign.
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 9 May 2020 06: 33 New
    +6
    Billingsley:
    of Russia necessary Sweep away your new programs (to equip the army with new weapons).
    Russia needs Billingsley to shut up or if he has verbal diarrhea, then let Trump teach the benefits.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 9 May 2020 08: 32 New
      +6
      US official on the need for the Russian Federation to abandon new weapons: "Russia's economy in ruins"

      If Russia refuses to develop new weapons and ready-made latest models, then not only the economy, but the country itself will be in ruins thanks to American advice and “American help”.
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 9 May 2020 14: 22 New
        +4
        Американцам нужно задать встречный вопрос. Что будет, если у них вдруг, случайно сломается "печатный станок"? Сдаётся мне, что у них тогда вообще никакой экономики не будет. Даже "разорванной в клочья". laughing
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 9 May 2020 22: 16 New
          +7
          Quote: orionvitt
          Американцам нужно задать встречный вопрос. Что будет, если у них вдруг, случайно сломается "печатный станок"? Сдаётся мне, что у них тогда вообще никакой экономики не будет. Даже "разорванной в клочья". laughing

          there is no need to ask ... the machine no longer helps !!! wink при этом, очень странной и неуместной кажется ирония автора насчет "мультиков Путина" - само во и многие её подражатели в комментах ржали над мультяшным оружием дядь Вовы!!! wassat laughing and now, it turns out, they are proud of our non-cartoon weapons and joke on a woman !!! recourse lol
  4. nikolaj1703
    nikolaj1703 9 May 2020 06: 35 New
    +8
    Would be engaged in their paper Economy! There are no services - there is NO Economy!
  5. Chingachguk
    Chingachguk 9 May 2020 06: 36 New
    17
    The statement of the next American clown indicates that it is the Americans with their subsidies in the hope of catching Russia with the latest weapons that are stomping around somewhere in the backyard, printing money intensively, trying to steal the minds from all over the world, pour money on them, but that’s nothing coming out. The only way for them to catch up with Russia is to force the Russian Federation to invent nothing more and to abandon what is already there .... I think so far Putin is in power in the United States to ruin and plunder Russia as under Yeltsin.
    1. Walrus fang
      Walrus fang 9 May 2020 06: 44 New
      +6
      Quote: Chingachguk
      The statement of the next American clown indicates that it is the Americans with their subsidies in the hope of catching Russia with the latest weapons that are stomping around somewhere in the backyard, printing money intensively, trying to steal the minds from all over the world, pour money on them, but that’s nothing coming out.

      And yet it says. That the United States is terribly afraid of a resurgent Russia ..
      Strength is not about money and armament .. Strength is in truth and justice!
      1. Chingachguk
        Chingachguk 9 May 2020 06: 50 New
        +5
        drinks good expression, right! Therefore, the Russian Federation does not have to constantly loop and invent something like America.
        1. Walrus fang
          Walrus fang 9 May 2020 07: 08 New
          +2
          Quote: Chingachguk
          drinks good expression, right! Therefore, the Russian Federation does not have to constantly loop and invent something like America.

          I agree ! Russia is always a pearl for a break and we do not like these allegories and twists, as in the west .. Well, for OUR Victory Oleg! drinks
          1. Chingachguk
            Chingachguk 9 May 2020 07: 51 New
            +5
            drinks Ready! FOR VICTORY! HAPPY EVERYONE! FOR OUR GRANDFATES !!!!
            Tell your children about them,
            so that
            remembered!
            Children children
            tell us about them,
            so too
            remembered!
            At all times of the immortal earth
            remember!
            Leading the ships to the twinkling stars
            about the dead
            remember!
            1. Walrus fang
              Walrus fang 9 May 2020 08: 26 New
              +4
              Quote: Chingachguk
              Tell your children about them,
              so that
              remembered!
              Children children
              tell us about them,
              so too
              remembered!
              At all times of the immortal earth
              remember!
              Leading the ships to the twinkling stars
              about the dead
              remember!

              It is the souls of children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren that must be protected .. For them there is a struggle not for life, but to death .. But blood memory still stronger than any brainwashing!
              For the Victory, for the Motherland, for Stalin! soldier
              1. Chingachguk
                Chingachguk 9 May 2020 08: 34 New
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                That’s exactly what I meant! Let our children know who their grandfathers were! Let the Nazis know who they were! Let also I know Europe and the West the whole truth! L. Pavlyuchenko 1943
                "Мне 25 лет. Я уничтожила 309 фашистских солдат. Не кажется ли вам, джентельмены, что вы слишком долго прячетесь за моей спиной?» — произнесла девушка.
                And this appeal was made already in 1943! Until that time, Western mice were sitting in their puddles and did not participate in the war!
                1. Walrus fang
                  Walrus fang 9 May 2020 09: 01 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Chingachguk
                  "Мне 25 лет. Я уничтожила 309 фашистских солдат. Не кажется ли вам, джентельмены, что вы слишком долго прячетесь за моей спиной?» — произнесла девушка.
                  And this appeal was made already in 1943! Until that time, Western mice were sitting in their puddles and did not participate in the war!

                  Тоже читал про это ..Хороший ход был СССР ! И после этого пошла помощь по ленд-лиз уже конкретная и т.д. .."джентельмены" увидели глаза этой русской девушки и ВСЕ поняли сразу ! hi
      2. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 9 May 2020 15: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Walrus Fang
        And yet it says. That the United States is terribly afraid of a resurgent Russia ..
        Strength is not about money and armament .. Strength is in truth and justice!

        Do not repeat hackneyed phrases. The strength of our people in unity. That was precisely the victory over the fascists. The unity of the front and the rear. The truth is that you cannot unite with villains. The justice is that everyone has the same rights and opportunities from birth. Who does not work shall not eat.
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 9 May 2020 22: 58 New
          +4
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Who does not work shall not eat.

          it is strange that many scribblers take food from somewhere !!! what laughing
    2. codetalker
      codetalker 9 May 2020 16: 26 New
      +2
      Unfortunately, in the open press there is little consistent, expert analysis about the START Treaty (there is no doubt that where necessary, this topic is very well developed). And there are many questions. The first such agreement was concluded under the same conditions. But now completely different conditions. The Russian military-industrial complex is alive and will develop. The scientific school is not ruined (and how much we were told about the brain drain), the technical and engineering education is at the level. And what about the USA? How is it with the industrial base? And with the production of nuclear fuel (on the issue of the arms race)?
      What is our interest in maintaining this treaty?
      1. Clerk
        Clerk 10 May 2020 10: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: codetalker
        What is our interest in maintaining this treaty?

        For us - absolutely nothing. The agreement is purely in the interests of the United States - in order to forge us and not give us an advantage over them.
  6. Ros 56
    Ros 56 9 May 2020 06: 41 New
    10
    Send this half-fool a lip-cutting machine. One black woman was already ruining our economy, Obama was calling him.
    1. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 9 May 2020 07: 21 New
      +2
      Not a black woman, it is intolerant. Black hut! laughing
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      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 10 May 2020 06: 30 New
        0
        Not a black woman, it is intolerant.

        Perhaps, but this is the pure truth. We were taught at school, representatives of the Negroid race are called Negroes, and I don’t see anything offensive or do these descendants of African Negroes put themselves higher than their ancestors?
    2. Brturin
      Brturin 9 May 2020 14: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      Send this half-fool a lip-cutting machine.

      It is more likely that the Chinese will send it to him, but he believes that before discussing the treaty itself, Russia “must convince the Chinese to also sit at the negotiating table.” Let him first convince the Chinese comrades, and even then ...
  7. lelik613
    lelik613 9 May 2020 06: 49 New
    12
    The only issue on which negotiations should be held is the non-deployment of nuclear weapons outside their own territory. Everything else is meaningless and harmful.
  8. ximkim
    ximkim 9 May 2020 06: 56 New
    +3
    It’s our armament, and it’s up to us to decide what to do with it. If you look at all this, why do we have to conclude these agreements? It makes no sense. Oooh ... let others join the START treaty. or weak?
    1. Chingachguk
      Chingachguk 9 May 2020 07: 57 New
      +6
      Others do not have such weapons. What to talk about with them? They are afraid of us. They understand that they will not be saved and will not hide behind their puddle.
      1. ximkim
        ximkim 9 May 2020 08: 48 New
        +2
        But they have nuclear weapons, even without hyper-cruise missiles. That’s the moment itself. Let them try to conclude an agreement with other countries, and only on their own terms. They will be sent home quickly with this agreement. And everything to us, all they owe something. They are tired of it already.
  9. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 9 May 2020 06: 59 New
    -9


    This is the source.
    Something there is not even close.
    1. Pivot
      Pivot 9 May 2020 07: 58 New
      +8
      Well citizen Privalov? Well, how not? You must have forgotten in your promised old Russian saying “written with a pen, do not cut it with an ax”, read the section Verifying a deal, there just this character sets out everything.
  10. askort154
    askort154 9 May 2020 07: 06 New
    +9
    As practice has shown, to conclude an agreement with the USA is not to respect yourself.

    Happy Great Victory Day! Today we remember all those who gave their lives for her! drinks
  11. oracul
    oracul 9 May 2020 07: 12 New
    +5
    Поразительно, как США умудряются жить в своем иллюзорном мире. Наша экономика "лежит в руинах из-за пандемии", а американская, надо полагать. цветет и пахнет. И вообще США привыкли во-всем быть первые: в государственном долге, печатании триллионов долларов, не привязывая этот процесс к результатам экономики, добыче сланцевых нефти и газа, не взирая на экологию, переманивании классных специалистов и ученых (сложно подсчитать экономию от этого процесса) и, приписывая себе чужие достижения, количестве военных баз по всему миру, авианосных соединений, даже заражении коронавирусом и количестве умерших от него.Главная фишка это аккумулирование денежных потоков(долларов) в своей финансовой системе, которая в общем-то ничего не создает, но все покупает за свои пустые зелененькие бумажки. Но вот России удалось опередить США в современных вооружениях,а им не удалось выкрасть или купить эти разработки. И сразу требование - включить в новый договор. Думаю, нам знакома "непорочная честность американцев", поэтому требуются внимательность и осторожность в отношениях с ними.
  12. LAWNER
    LAWNER 9 May 2020 07: 13 New
    +3
    Apparently the engine driver in the USA acted on the same principle. Medicine does not cope with mortality from coronavirus and drove to stoke a floating hospital.
  13. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 9 May 2020 07: 20 New
    +4
    Another empty place with megalomania something pushed through there. Well, three kilos of compote in his mouth. Dried fruits. The dog barks, the caravan goes on.
  14. 1536
    1536 9 May 2020 07: 22 New
    +4
    The United States should abandon nuclear weapons, since there is no control over it, and this kind of American officials can take advantage of this.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 08: 39 New
      +2
      By the way, yes...
  15. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 9 May 2020 07: 45 New
    +2
    We are told that in the United States, apart from the printing press, there was nothing left - only unemployed.
    They also spit in our and the Chinese side. Smelly whisperers are allowed into Europe ...
    Российские и американские олигархи одинаково ненавидят и свои народы и чужие... И чиновников нанимают соответственных. И министры, и конгрессмены, и средства массовой информации, и разведка, и всякие там ФБР, и научное сообщество, и образование, и IT-технологии, и 100% ГМО-пища (кстати, я хохотайль, когда купил что-то в магазине с огромной надписью "Без ГМО!" Состав: Соя... Вот на Бабаевском шоколаде "Элитный" надписи "Без ГМО нет", потому что в составе указан лецитин соевый. Ну да "Думай, но- выбирай, но - думай" или пальмовое масло без ГМО или подсолнечное или рапсовое, но с ГМО) - всё как у Паниковского: "Продано, куплено и опять продано, только - дороже".
  16. +5
    +5 9 May 2020 07: 45 New
    +2
    Very stupid hutspa ... More precisely, the Amer’s scam is so stupid that they like it are being blown into his ears .... this is for domestic consumption.
  17. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 9 May 2020 08: 24 New
    +3
    Похоже этому чинуше кто-то уже "порвал" жо.у на фашистский" знак,вот и орет бедняга о "разорванной в клочья" российской экономике! Уж очень больно...
  18. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 08: 38 New
    +3
    And the United States burns and much!
  19. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 9 May 2020 08: 50 New
    +1
    what touching concern ... hypocrisy whips from all the cracks ...
  20. rocket757
    rocket757 9 May 2020 09: 03 New
    +2
    Russia needs to put aside its new programs (to equip the army with new weapons).

    Forgive everyone who we need, forgive everyone ... or send to hell, it doesn’t matter how important it is, to the garden of everyone and that's it!
  21. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 9 May 2020 09: 21 New
    0
    Then the United States needs to take away its new financial programs (to equip the economy with new trillions of blown greens) ...
    1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
      Uncle Vanya Susanin 9 May 2020 10: 15 New
      +2
      But this is in no case, let them continue wink
  22. Uncle Vanya Susanin
    Uncle Vanya Susanin 9 May 2020 10: 14 New
    +1
    With Americans, as with women, listen to them and do the opposite!
  23. Julius Caesar
    Julius Caesar 9 May 2020 10: 37 New
    +5
    "Мы будем есть траву и листья, но у нас будет ядерное оружие" (С), премьер-министр Пакистана Зульфикар Али Бхутто.
    Libya abandoned its nuclear program in favor of social programs.
    Now Pakistan has an atomic bomb and there people no longer go hungry. And Libya does not have a bomb and people live in hunger, poverty and devastation there.
    1. Plantagenet
      Plantagenet 9 May 2020 10: 47 New
      -1
      "Мы будем есть траву и листья, но у нас будет ядерное оружие" (С), премьер-министр Пакистана Зульфикар Али Бхутто."

      You have given a very bad example with the Prime Minister of Pakistan. This person was arrested during the coup in 1977. Subsequently, there was a court at which Zulfikar Ali Bhutto was sentenced to death. And on April 4 he was hanged in prison. The people did not react in any way. to this event. Obviously, the people of Pakistan still believed that butter was better than guns.
      1. Grigory_78
        Grigory_78 9 May 2020 15: 15 New
        0
        Хотите сказать "жизнь этого человека закончилась плохо и плэтому он был неправ"?
        1. Plantagenet
          Plantagenet 9 May 2020 15: 20 New
          -1
          I want to say that in a dispute between a TV and a refrigerator, as a rule, the refrigerator wins.
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 9 May 2020 23: 03 New
            +4
            Quote: Plantagenet
            I want to say that in a dispute between a TV and a refrigerator, as a rule, the refrigerator wins.

            Nope ... at least Raguli an example !!! request
  24. Comrade Michael
    Comrade Michael 9 May 2020 10: 55 New
    -1
    I want to send him to ... But everything is decided by the elite of ours. And something tells me that the top will do as he wants, but of course, under the stories of cunning plans and changing priorities and threats. They will not raise the economy.
  25. K-50
    K-50 9 May 2020 11: 18 New
    +2
    The American special envoy, among other things, also announced that introducing such weapons into the new treaty (that is, actually abandoning them) is in Russia's interests, since “the Russian economy is in ruins because of the pandemic, and the budget directly depends from oil prices that will not be high in the near future. ”

    Пин дос сики всякую х рень притащат в аргументы, лишь бы у нас не было нового вооружения. А "экономику разорванную в клочья" мы уже проходили. fellow yes lol
  26. aglet
    aglet 9 May 2020 12: 04 New
    0
    Quote: Plantagenet
    You have given a very bad example with the Prime Minister of Pakistan. This person was arrested during the coup in 1977.

    You see, during the coup. and who organized this coup, do not you say? maybe india or malaysia? striped ears stick out specifically with cookies
    1. Plantagenet
      Plantagenet 9 May 2020 13: 51 New
      -1
      The coup was organized by the military, led by Ziya-ul-Haq.
  27. kamikaze
    kamikaze 9 May 2020 13: 08 New
    +3
    each frog praises its swamp. and then I look at the American medetsin is high that people die like flies than whetsts to grind against mother RUSSIA it is better to restore order in your house, or at home at the Americans there is a complete pigsty and mess
  28. aglet
    aglet 9 May 2020 14: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: Plantagenet
    The coup was organized by the military, led by Ziya-ul-Haq.
    Reply

    I know it. but who gave him cookies?
  29. ZVS
    ZVS 9 May 2020 16: 53 New
    -1
    Well, the fact that the Russian economy does not meet modern conditions is an obvious act. The economy is built on the production of weapons systems, allegedly VC pulls many industries. This is ordinary rubbish. Take Germany with its powerful economy built not on military orders, but on high-tech technologies for peaceful products that are in demand by the population.
  30. flicker
    flicker 9 May 2020 18: 38 New
    +3
    Listen to the American and do the opposite.
  31. sanches-nk
    sanches-nk 9 May 2020 19: 11 New
    0
    They all measure with their patterns, and this is their main mistake, which will ultimately lead to their collapse.
    And our officials must finally come to their senses completely and understand that only a sovereign economy can be viable. In Russia there are all resources, even in the conditions of total authorship. We need to develop industries and intersectoral relations, try to produce everything at home, from pins to spaceships, the only way we can guarantee the future for our descendants.
  32. cradle
    cradle 9 May 2020 20: 33 New
    0
    Shazzzz lol
  33. Dart
    Dart 9 May 2020 22: 20 New
    0
    I don’t see any reason to discuss anything with non-contractual ones until new circumstances and new times, new people manifest themselves ..
  34. stasimar
    stasimar 9 May 2020 22: 29 New
    0
    Lochovirus diversion against the global economy. But the United States is printing world currency, the rest in ruins to varying degrees.
  35. Zomanus
    Zomanus 10 May 2020 04: 03 New
    -1
    Well dude expressed Wishlist of his country, has every right to do so.
    It was in the 90s that we ruined our country ahead of the curve, but this is definitely not the norm.
  36. Sergey Zhikharev
    Sergey Zhikharev 10 May 2020 09: 01 New
    -1
    2015 The Russian economy is torn to shreds.
    2016 Russia put its president in the USA
    2020 The Russian economy is in ruins (in theory, after shreds, can this be interpreted as growth. Is a pandemic good for the Russian economy?)
    2021 year. Will Russia again put its president in the USA?
  37. yfast
    yfast 10 May 2020 09: 03 New
    0
    Without justifying this dude, our economy is like a porn film: deepen, expand, expand. A simple example: why are our ventilators not competitive even among our own doctors? Even despite the diversification and support of the domestic.
  38. Clerk
    Clerk 10 May 2020 09: 52 New
    0
    Как уже задрали эти статьи, в которых американцы высказывают своё мнение в отношении того или иного мнения у нас - события ли, образца вооружения или какого-либо действия, словно американцы являются для нас каким-либо авторитетом или "учителем". Они - nobody, and there’s no way to call them. We ourselves will decide what to do, we will do only what we should and only what we need - without looking at anyone!
  39. Clerk
    Clerk 10 May 2020 10: 10 New
    0
    Quote: businessv
    Как по мне, этот вопрос лишний! 90-е годы яркий пример "демократизации". Что ещё нужно озвучить, или прочесть, чтобы понять, что им надо? Именно это и является целью матрасни и либерастов - развал России и разграбление ресурсов на всей её территории, что уже не раз было - поляки в смутное время, антанта в гражданскую, немцы во время ВОВ. Наша цель - сохранить страну, прекратить разграбление олигофренами... т. е. олигархами, простите и обеспечить нашим гражданам достойную жизнь.

    It was still heard in the 90s that the Soviet Union came down from the activities of foreign spies and their accomplices. The CPRF propaganda is from the same category as foreign cartoons (Pokémon!) Morally corrupt and corrupt our youth, and the Chinese mix lead and radioactive waste in the hats they produce so that our children grow up with crooked mutants.
  40. Mediator Remembering
    Mediator Remembering 10 May 2020 13: 00 New
    -1
    First, let them remove their weapons and bases from Eurasia, the Middle East. They will change the anti-Russian policy and reduce the military budget to the level of Russia. Etc. etc. But we are aware that this is just a dream. IMHO
  41. 7 poplar
    7 poplar 10 May 2020 14: 49 New
    -1
    they would look at their ruins under their noses ....
  42. Sarkazm
    Sarkazm 10 May 2020 16: 42 New
    0
    There is nothing to be in ruins.
    Where there were ruins, they were demolished by sticking on high-rise buildings, and where there are production facilities and factories, there seems to have been no bombing either, everything is worth it. But how to launch all the latter, to make the gears spin on a real market or even planned one, what the hell isn’t joking, and not a speculative economy wink
  43. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 10 May 2020 17: 49 New
    0
    Он по сути прав. Ростов-на-Дону. Магазин рыбалки и туризма "Хищник" - крупнейшая в России сеть магазинов в этой сфере (ООО Прайм) - зарплату сотрудникам до сих пор ещё за март не выплатили. Текучка кадров похуже 90-х. ООО АТП-3, крупнейшее в Ростове автопредприятие предприятие пассажирских перевозок, с января месяца задержки зарплаты. Сейчас только частично погашены зарплаты за февраль. ОАО "Роствертол", входит в холдинг Вертолёты России. Сокращение сотрудников на 30%. ОАО Прибор, сокращение сотрудников на 30%, задержки зарплаты уже более чем на месяц. ГПЗ-10 на гране банкротства, сокращение сотрудников и задержки зарплат с января. И так далее.
  44. Karaul20
    Karaul20 10 May 2020 20: 04 New
    0
    The US is gradually withdrawing from agreements with Russia, because Russia no longer poses a strategic threat to the United States. The treaties were needed to slow down the arms race with the USSR a little, but what kind of arms race is Russia and the USA ... A new treaty is possible, but only if China is there.