When will the Israeli attacks on Syria stop?

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When will the Israeli attacks on Syria stop?

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On May 1, 2020, the Israeli Air Force destroyed a number of facilities at a research center in the southern part of Homs. Not a single Israeli plane was shot down, the attacked objects were severely destroyed.

The incident, as usual, caused waves of indignation on the part of the Russian public, directed mainly at the Russian authorities, which cannot protect the state under protection - Syria, from impudent Israeli attacks.



The opponents of the outraged give the following arguments: Russia and Syria right now do not need Israel to fully get involved in the conflict with its resources and capabilities, which, frankly, are great.

They are told in response that the connivance of Israeli attacks undermines the Russian reputation as a “security provider” and objectively causes political damage to the country.

Around this dispute, real Sabbaths are organized by Russian-speaking Israelis, confusing the carefully prepared raids of individual high-tech aircraft with high-precision weapons against the small forces of an adversary who was literally in a previous era (not about the Russian Federation) with a real big war, at least like the last war in Lebanon, where the Israeli army showed itself, to put it mildly, it is doubtful what for some reason they began to forget in Israel.

Who is right: advocates that Russia should intervene, or advocates that this is not our conflict anyway?

We will understand.

Israel Action Assessment


Immediately we begin our analysis of the situation by answering the main question: yes, Russia condones Israel. Moreover, Syria also condones him. And to say even more: Iran is technically quite capable of giving a definite answer to Israel, but does not do that either. And Hezbollah could well, in response to each such attack, arrange an exchange of attacks with Israel across the Lebanese border, but their episodic attacks are minimally correlated with Israeli flights to Syria. The reasons are the same for everyone.

None of the parties to the conflict wants Israel to throw all its resources into a war against Iran, Syria and Russia on Syrian territory. Israel’s military capabilities, on the one hand, and at least one Russia’s, are not comparable, and not in Israel’s favor, no matter what Israeli patriots think about it. The question is that a hypothetical military victory over Israel will not give anything to either Russia or Iran, but it will cost a lot.

Israel takes advantage of this state of affairs.

You must understand that the declared goals of Israel are a lie. Not a single limited airstrike per month, not a single airstrike per week will force Iran to leave Syria, and in Israel they cannot understand this. Iran uses in Syria units of Shiite Islamists and religiously motivated personnel from the IRGC, each of which understood, taking the oath, that they would have to act without reliance on the military power of their country, under cover, often without legal status. They know what they’re doing.

But Israel knows who it is dealing with.

Most likely, the Israeli attacks are opportunistic in nature and are planned in the same logic as the Anglo-Saxons are doing: if there is a potentially dangerous country, then while it is possible, it must be harmed, and then we'll see.

Israeli attacks inflict limited harm to all countries that Israel openly or implicitly considers unfriendly: Russia, Iran and Syria. This harm is the purpose of these attacks, it is done “in between cases”, without attracting significant forces and spending large sums of money, and by and large does not change its strategic position for Israel, only slightly weakening its opponents.

All this also does not affect the course of hostilities in Syria, and does not pose a danger to the participants in the process, although episodic losses in people, equipment and material resources are, of course, unpleasant, as well as political damage, which, although minimal, is.

In simple terms, Israel is just dirty tricks on the little things, and nothing more.

What will happen if one of the participants in the process decides to punish Israel for real?

Here, Israeli patriots can start to laugh, but there really is no problem escalating. There is no problem working out a missile ambush somewhere in Lebanon on probable flight paths for Israeli aircraft, there is no problem working out an airplane without using the radar of the anti-aircraft missile system and without revealing yourself. All this is technically feasible and affordable even for the poor Syria. And in other places of the world more than once it was done.

You can, for example, recall how easily and naturally the American F-117 at one time finished off the complex in Osirak, and then google a video with the wreckage of such an aircraft in Serbia. Although they seemed invulnerable. Everything is possible in reality.

For the Russian Federation there is no problem tracking Israeli flights aviation over Israel and Lebanon itself, it’s just a matter of attracting additional forces and means to the theater of operations, as well as protecting these forces and means, and then, it is not known whose air defense forces or aircraft will manage this situational awareness, this is an open question.

And Iran just recently demonstrated to the whole world a ballistic missile strike at a US base, showing very good accuracy. Who knows how the Iranian missile bases are arranged and what is stored there, he understands with what fire performance, if necessary, these missiles will go to the target, as well as the fact that even a nuclear strike will not be able to suppress the missile base and force it to stop launches. And there are many such bases. Yes, and Hezbollah has a sufficient amount of forces and means in order to arrange a weeks-long brawl with the IDF on the Lebanese border. Moreover, all these things can happen simultaneously. But they do not and will not happen for a while.

Today, from a military point of view, Israel dominates the region. And the point is not in ultra-precise missiles and bombs, which in high-intensity conflicts tend to end in a week or two, but in the fact that Israel is nearby, it, unlike Russia, does not need to deliver troops and reinforcements thousands of kilometers away, and what is his military doctrine.

Since the first Arab-Israeli war, the issue of the lack of strategic depth has been an acute issue for Israel. The Israelis can fight as they like well, show mass heroism, have technical superiority over the enemy, but the lack of territory for maneuver creates a situation where one mistake of the military command can cost the state of existence. Moreover, without regard to the fighting qualities of his armed forces. Geography is ruthless.

The answer to this problem was that Israel is solving its defense problems with offensive methods. Of all the Arab-Israeli wars after 1949, there was only one when Israel defended itself - in 1973. She was won, but won on the verge of defeat - for several days, the very existence of Israel was in question.

This is a very important point - Israel, defending itself in advance of defense in depth, having highly motivated and combat-ready troops, everywhere showing mass heroism, in conditions where the enemy did not have a decisive advantage in strength, when his command made a number of serious mistakes, could still lose. As a result, Israel won, but at a high price.

And even after that, his position was extremely unstable. Imagine Israeli Tanks would enter Cairo. And then what would it be? How many years would Israel last if the war were to take the character of a war of attrition, involving Iraq, for example?

And with the continued pumping of Arabs with weapons from the USSR? Only now it’s different - with Grad-P portable missile launchers, Malyutka ATGM, RPG-7, anti-tank mines and all the things that sometimes lead to exhaustion wars.

In Tel Aviv, everyone knew this very well and, except in 1973, they always beat us first and tried not to prolong the war. The exception was military operations against Egypt in 1967-1970, but then Israel could afford the luxury of operating with small forces from its territory.

And so that the blow does not become the first shot in the leg, it must be strong. A strong blow allows a decisive defeat of the enemy in a short time and, together with the absence of a threat to the very existence of the enemy in this defeat, forces him to cease hostilities. So it was in 1967, and in 1982. And in 1956 it could have been if the conflict had not stopped the intervention of the USSR.

If in the case of escalation actions from Russia, Syria or Iran, Israel will take such steps, then by the forces that we and our allies are in this region, it will be impossible to stop the Israelis. Russia and Iran will face a choice: either pretend that nothing special is happening, that will terribly undermine the political positions of at least Russia, even Iran, or take the war to a new level, transferring new troops to the region and starting to fight there for real, with dozens thousand soldiers, and corresponding losses.

Can Iran defeat Israel in a war? No, but the damage will be colossal. What about Russia? And Russia may just pay for this big price, both in people and in money.

That's just that neither Russia nor Iran will ultimately receive any benefits, absolutely. It is much easier to put up with the minimal harm that Israel is doing now.

In addition, there are two more factors that all countries with conflicting potential in relations with Israel have to take into account.

Nuclear weapons


At one time, Golda Meir’s joke was widely known: “Firstly, Israel does not have nuclear weapons, and secondly, if necessary, we will use it.” Although Israel still adheres to the rule not to confirm or deny the possession of nuclear weapons, for specialists this is no longer a secret, and after stories with Mordechai Vanunu - not a secret for non-specialists.

Tentatively today, Israel has several dozen warheads. Some of them are mounted in aerial bombs, some in cruise missiles deployed on Israeli submarines, and some on ballistic missiles.

Israel’s ballistic missiles reach all the major cities of Iran and Russia. Theoretically, in the absence of counteraction and the availability of supply vessels, Israeli submarines can travel quite large distances and attack objects that are out of range of ballistic missiles. Ballistic missile-based areas are located in the Negev desert and are relatively well protected. According to some reports, Israel has stopped the production of nuclear weapons, but they can be resumed if necessary.

Of course, even if there is a war between Russia and Israel, the use of Israeli nuclear weapons is unlikely.


Range of Israeli missiles.

However, not impossible. Firstly, the use of the weapon that exists cannot be ruled out in principle. Secondly, it is necessary to take into account the psychological moment.

Israeli society has an untreated trauma called the Holocaust. Psychologically, any Israeli military is not just fighting for Israel. He is fighting to ensure that something like this never happens to the Jews again. A serious military defeat of Israel, if one takes place, can revive fears that Jews will be massacred again and provoke an irrationally harsh reaction, which in fact was not necessary.

Of course, Israel’s use of nuclear weapons will trigger a nuclear response. And the use of Israeli nuclear weapons on the territory of Russia will lead to the disappearance of the state of Israel in principle.

But no one wants to bring such a denouement to at least the minimum because of one weak Israeli bombing once a month. There is one more factor.

Israeli agents of influence and conspiracy structures


Counterintelligence experts are well aware of the word Sayanim. This is a network of voluntary assistants to the Israeli secret services, recruited from among ethnic Jews living in a particular state. It is the vast masses of these and similar people from the Jewish environment that help the Israeli intelligence services conduct their operations anywhere in the world.

It is thanks to such people that the Israelis calmly cut through Iran and kill nuclear scientists there, escaping the Iranian counterintelligence - a very good one, on the territory of an ethnically alien country with a hostile population and without a border with Israel. Just because they have hundreds of thousands of potential and thousands of real helpers there. They will always be provided with transport, housing, medical care, the opportunity to hide for many days and much more. Provide local residents, many of whom are generally listed there as Persians or Armenians. And they hold important posts in society, including in law enforcement agencies.

Russia is not an exception here either: the number of Jewish volunteers who are always ready to help the Israeli secret services is huge in our country. In addition, there is another factor - the masses of Jews from Russia who left for Israel did not renounce Russian citizenship. These people can enter the country at any time and no one can stop them. What will they do here is an open question. Quite a lot of young people from Israel, after doing military service there, then return to Russia for permanent residence and remain here. No one controls them, and this is impossible due to the limited resources of special services.

Any country in the world, except for the most radical Islamic countries and racially alien Asian countries, has within itself a huge potentially dangerous force capable of mass sabotage at all levels (everything simply doesn’t work in the country as it should - and there’s nothing to do), and to help Israel carry out special operations at absolutely any level.

It is impossible to solve this problem in one way or another. Moreover, a single Jew can be completely loyal to the country of residence, he can work for it, he can fight for it, but in a critical situation of choice, loyalty to Israel as a Jewish state can outweigh loyalty to the country of residence. Although it happens that does not outweigh.

This power is a political and strategic factor that cannot be ignored. Therefore, no war with Israel is extremely unprofitable for Russia - even won with lightning speed and without losses. Because then consequences will begin that cannot be corrected.

All of the above is the same deterrent that works in favor of Israel, like its nuclear weapons, is simply more effective.

Admittedly, the modern Russian leadership is conducting its “Jewish policy" quite competently and successfully. Moreover, sometimes the connections within the world Jewish society can even be used to the benefit of Russia. Under the current circumstances, there is no threat from within from the sympathizers of Israel to our country. But the fact that one has to endure Israel's daring tricks in Syria is part of the price we have to pay for security.

You should not give all this an assessment from the point of view of some morality. The evolution of the Jews as a community was very complex and very dramatic. As a result of this evolution, we got such an interesting construct.

You just need to be able to work with him, and so far Russia is succeeding. But you still have to end up with Israeli raids.

Inevitable final


There is a historical precedent for how to calm Israel without much blood. In 1967-1970, Egypt and Israel fought with each other the so-called war of attrition. These were a series of endless air raids, special forces raids, shelling and naval battles between the Egyptian and Israeli forces.

Israel, in general, "led by points", although in general it was a stupid war without decisive goals, a war for the sake of war, in the Middle East style. At some point, Israeli aviation became such a problem for Egypt that he turned to the USSR for help. The latter transferred anti-aircraft missile units and aircraft to Egypt.

Aviation proved to be bad - more experienced Israeli pilots defeated Soviet pilots.

But when trying to attack anti-aircraft systems, Israel began to lose. Those that he did not have before, dozens of cars in a matter of days. As a result, having weighed all the pros and cons, the Israelis quietly retreated. Less than three weeks passed between the last Israeli plane to fall and the signing of a ceasefire.

True, today we should not work with our own hands. Extremely undesirable.

Most likely, in the relatively distant future, when the problem in Idlib is resolved and the Syrian sovereignty of the Euphrates is restored (taking into account the fact that it will not be profitable for Russia to expel the Americans from the Middle East swamp), the Israelis will begin to crash in their raids.

It will not be of any epic proportions. It’s just that their losses will start to grow very slowly. One plane, sometimes two. Never five or ten. But always and inevitably. One day, some pilot will not be able to reach his territory and will be captured alive. He will be shown on Syrian television, and in Israel his family will be shown on television. As his mother cries, a wife with an unhappy face, frightened children.

He will need to be released, someone will be needed who can talk with the Syrians on this topic. And to convey to our slightly presumptuous friends - namely friends, from Israel, the understanding that it is time to stop already.

In the meantime, we should not pay particular attention to minor Israeli mischief, we just need not to substitute, as happened with the IL-20. All the same, these small injections do not fundamentally solve anything for anyone.

And not to substitute completely in our power.
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  1. +38
    11 May 2020 06: 12
    And not to substitute completely in our power.

    Do you know what associations arose after reading the article? If suddenly in the territory of Belarus NATO missiles begin to burst, then Russia should, given the fact that it is disadvantageous to expel the Americans from the European swamp, DO NOT SUBSTITUTE !!! belay
    Let me then ask (at least for you, the author):
    WHO MORE MOTHER-RUSSIA IS VALUABLE - ISRAEL OR SYRIA?
    And, if these countries are equally fond of the Russian authorities, then what is the point of puffing their cheeks here, “cursing” damned Americans (Turks, Israelis) if in nature there is still no adequate answer, in which the American (Turkish, Israeli) wolves will be full, and the Russian oligarchs - safe? (Why oligarchs? Yes, because the country is ruled by a clan of oligarchs created under the EBN and continued its development with GDP)
    1. -9
      11 May 2020 06: 23
      See what trade turnover with Israel, and which with Syria. Learn the value.
      1. +23
        11 May 2020 07: 38
        Quote: forest1
        See what trade turnover with Israel, and which with Syria. Learn the value.

        If everything is measured in rubles, then there was no need to come there at all, but since we undertook to defend Syria, we must be consistent. The world should know that if Russia said it would protect, then it would do it! This is much more expensive than money, as from now on they will begin to listen to what Russia says.
        1. +20
          11 May 2020 07: 50
          Quote: 1976AG
          but since we undertook to defend Syria, we must be consistent. The world should know that if Russia said it would protect, then it would do it! It’s much more expensive than money,

          This is yes.
          Each such blow is an open slap in the face of Russia.
          And the more the Russian authorities wipe themselves out and pretend that nothing happened, the lower the authority of Russia, and the greater the threat to the citizens of Russia and its military
          1. -8
            11 May 2020 09: 55
            Quote: Spade
            This is yes.
            Each such blow is an open slap in the face of Russia.

            Why?
            Russia also wants to squeeze Iran out of Syria - it is more profitable for it to do with Israeli hands.
            Coincidence of interests.
            1. +13
              11 May 2020 10: 07
              Quote: Arpad
              Russia also wants to squeeze Iran out of Syria - it is more profitable for it to do with Israeli hands.

              laughing
              Do not tell my slippers.
              Israel is basically unable to "squeeze Iran out of Syria"

              And he, in fact, does not.
              Israel, with its strikes, supports terrorists so that the war lasts as long as possible and Syria emerges from it as weakened as possible.
              1. -10
                11 May 2020 10: 10
                Quote: Spade
                Do not tell my slippers.
                Israel is basically unable to "squeeze Iran out of Syria"

                Never say never.
                Quote: Spade
                Israel supports terrorists with its strikes

                The bombing of Iranian long-range missile depots - do not tell my slippers.
                Quote: Spade
                and Syria came out of it as weakened as possible

                And what about Turkey - shovels?
                Strategize wink
                I understand that you have a personal dislike for the Israelis, they periodically dunk you in some substance, showing your incompetence and frank not knowledge.
                Maybe you should tighten the equipment a bit and look not far away from a peace treaty?
                1. +12
                  11 May 2020 10: 34
                  Quote: Arpad
                  Never say never.

                  laughing
                  Look at Lebanon. Israel even decided on aggression against this state. Could he "squeeze Iran" out of there? No, rather the opposite.

                  Quote: Arpad
                  The bombing of Iranian long-range missile depots - do not tell my slippers.

                  Is that what they say?
                  More recently, the Israelis on this site stated something completely different. For example, about the heroic destruction of the Smerch installation, which fired on terrorists affiliated with Al-Qaeda ..
                  Or you can recall the destruction of the Syrian "Pantsir" installations of which the local Israelis are so proud

                  Quote: Arpad
                  Strategist wink
                  I understand that you have a personal dislike for the Israelis, they periodically dunk you in some substance, showing your incompetence and frank not knowledge.
                  Maybe you should tighten the equipment a bit and look not far away from a peace treaty?

                  laughing
                  Normally....
                  As soon as your public runs out of arguments (and they quickly end in yours), it tries to get personal.
                  And so clumsy that I feel ashamed for you
                  laughing laughing laughing

                  Doesn’t
                  1. +4
                    11 May 2020 12: 00
                    Quote: Spade
                    Normally....
                    As soon as your public runs out of arguments (and they quickly end in yours), it tries to get personal.
                    And so clumsy that I feel ashamed for you

                    Me too ! Their receivers have long been known .. hi negative
                  2. -6
                    11 May 2020 16: 26
                    Lopatov, stop writing nonsense. Even the most stubborn troll can (if there are brains) look after what the "aggression" began. And it began with attacks and killing of soldiers on Israeli territory. The operation was not entirely prepared, but it was enough for the Lebanese border to become the most calm, and nasrallah was registered in the bunker. The abundance of emoticons is apparently intended to show your fun? But it turns out - so-so, to be honest. No.
                  3. -6
                    11 May 2020 17: 03
                    Quote: Spade
                    [
                    laughing
                    Look at Lebanon. Israel even decided on aggression against this state. Could he "squeeze Iran" out of there? No, rather the opposite
                    The bombing of Iranian warehouses of long-range missiles, for example, the heroic destruction of the Smerch installation, which fired at terrorists affiliated with Al-Qaeda.
                    Or you can recall the destruction of the Syrian "Pantsir" installations of which the local Israelis are so proud

                    Lopatov laughing Installation Tornado fired at El Qaeda, located in the Israeli ski resort of Hermon, the Syrian installations Shell are fighting with might and main aviation (probably), and about Lebanon - from the south of the country squeezed out Hezbollah, which is now the parliamentary party and any Her shot in the direction of the Jews will mean, unlike 2006, the Israeli-Lebanese war)). Therefore, over the past 14 years, with the exception of three incidents, the Lebanese border has been known for its tranquility, unprecedented since 1948. hi
          2. 0
            11 May 2020 10: 55
            Quote: Spade
            Each such blow is an open slap in the face of Russia.

            And to all of us here ... Could and be tolerated in Israel, nevertheless, on May 9, the country is celebrating and it’s hard for us now ... NO, right now, it’s necessary to hammer in a massive way ..
          3. +2
            11 May 2020 12: 48
            Quote: Spade
            Each such blow is an open slap in the face of Russia.

            On the one hand, it seems, and yes. On the other hand, get involved in a war with Israel over Syria ... It is not worth it yet.
          4. -2
            11 May 2020 18: 27
            Quote: Spade
            the more Russian authorities wipe themselves

            "Authority" is not wiped away.
        2. +21
          11 May 2020 07: 57
          . you just need not substitute, as happened with the IL-20. All the same, these small injections

          The IL-20 aircraft itself may be a trifle. But what about 15 crew members ??

          In response, three divisions of S-300PM-2 anti-aircraft missile systems were delivered to Syria. But, they do not work.
          In fact - the answer is so-so.
          1. +15
            11 May 2020 09: 06
            Quote: Stas157
            The IL-20 aircraft itself may be a trifle. But what about 15 crew members ??

            -----------------------
            And an airplane stuffed with equipment is far from a trifle, especially since we already count them as piecemeal. Yesterday I also thought about this topic, why, with all our friendly steps (as they are presented by television), we always get "knives in the back". Starting all from the same Ukraine, where they seemed to be trying to make friends with oligarchs and politicians. The same thing happened with Cyprus, where the savings of some Russians were confiscated. With Erdogan passionately kissed, got shot down planes and helicopters, plus a killed ambassador. With Netanyahu, too, such love is passionate, but we get military strikes in Syria. Probably something in the conservatory needs to be changed for a long time.
            1. +12
              11 May 2020 10: 27
              In order not to get a knife in the back with enviable constancy, one thing is to tear off a hand with a knife! For a downed plane, an answer MUST be given with much more damage, there was no answer and the result was on the face.
              They will not love Russia when it is clear, then we must do so that we would be scared to hiccups.
              1. -2
                11 May 2020 16: 29
                What Syrians offer to bomb? It’s because they shot down Il.
                1. 0
                  12 May 2020 05: 35
                  Yes, everything is sad with you; you think too straightforwardly
              2. +1
                11 May 2020 18: 46
                Quote: saigon
                In order not to get a knife in the back with enviable constancy, one thing is necessary: ​​to tear off a hand with a knife

                Exactly! In other words, until the "nasty" enemy receives an answer, or receives a calculated ADEQUATE, from our side, answer - the strikes will continue due to the ADEQUATE response (they say, for small damage and the response will be small). In order to avoid this, the answer must be exactly INadequate, (whatever it would be!) And there is only one solution - "landing" of all Israeli aviation BEFORE takeoff, once, and FOREVER! To be rude at once, and it WILL BE POSSIBLE!
              3. +1
                12 May 2020 14: 24
                On February 17, a powerful explosion occurred at the headquarters of the armed forces in the Turkish capital. As a result of which 26 military and two civilians were killed, more than 60 people were injured. Most of the dead were military personnel - pilots of the Turkish Air Force. Charged of course to the Kurds. but there is a theory that a terrorist attack against Turkish pilots could be revenge for the death of the Russian pilot Oleg Peshkov, shot down by the Turkish Air Force. Among the dead Turkish pilots there could be those who participated in the attack on the Russian bomber.
            2. +3
              11 May 2020 11: 47
              Quote: Altona
              Yesterday I also thought about this topic, why, with all our friendly steps (as they are presented by television), we always get "knives in the back".

              maybe something to fix in the conservatory?
              1. +1
                11 May 2020 12: 52
                Quote: Maki Avellievich
                maybe something to fix in the conservatory?

                Advice from those who have not been able to resolve the conflict with the Palestinians for 70 years?
                1. +6
                  11 May 2020 13: 27
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Advice from those who have not been able to resolve the conflict with the Palestinians for 70 years?

                  a conversation that:
                  Quote: Altona
                  Yesterday I also thought about this topic, why, with all our friendly steps (as they are presented by television), we always get "knives in the back".

                  we are in conflict with the Arabs, yes. but they did not lead friendship and therefore did not receive "knives in the back".
                  I just don’t understand why, over and over again, we need to feed the pseudo allies. To these resources there is a more worthy application, it seems to me.
                  1. 0
                    11 May 2020 14: 04
                    I beg of you. Now let's not talk about knives, for the state of Israel has not passed this cup.
                    1. +2
                      11 May 2020 14: 08
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      I beg of you. Now let's not talk about knives, for the state of Israel has not passed this cup.

                      An example of an Arab country, an ally of Israel, which offended him "with a knife in the back."
                      You do not need to beg, just voice the facts for the dialogue.
                      1. +3
                        11 May 2020 14: 25
                        And all the charity in the direction of Palestine is not an attempt to establish friendly relations? Because it was in this vein that it was presented here on the site. Like "we are to them, and they are not grateful ay yay yay."
                      2. -2
                        11 May 2020 16: 33
                        Charity is a necessary measure.
                      3. +3
                        11 May 2020 16: 54
                        So let's write it down. Israel based on purely selfish interests ...
              2. +1
                12 May 2020 05: 38
                Yes, you’re a revolutionary, my friend, make such an offer!
            3. -3
              12 May 2020 12: 03
              Quote: Altona
              Yesterday I also thought about this topic, why, with all our friendly steps (as they are presented by television), we always get "knives in the back". Starting all from the same Ukraine, where they seemed to be trying to make friends with oligarchs and politicians.


              This, in fact, is the problem. Instead of making contacts with peoples, opening Russian cultural and information centers, promoting Russian culture and language through social events, instead of organizing prizes, excursions to Moscow, trips to Russians for schoolchildren who have distinguished themselves in learning Russian in the respective country museums (thus working for a long time with other people's youth), our scar, in response to the mantle of a petty gopnik from a St. Petersburg gateway, looks for "decided" and "authorities" in every country and tries to squabble with them. So, when in a conditional country the power changes at the next elections (this is not Russia for you, where a botox poltorashka rewrites the constitution for itself in order to rule forever), the sidekick of the GDP goes nafig, and Russia goes to the forest.

          2. 0
            11 May 2020 10: 57
            Quote: Stas157
            The IL-20 aircraft itself may be a trifle. But what about 15 crew members ??

            There were specialists and not simple .. Everyone calculated the bastards, clearly. angry
          3. -1
            11 May 2020 18: 29
            Quote: Stas157
            The IL-20 aircraft itself may be a trifle. But what about 15 crew members ??

            They cut the forest - chips fly! Somehow they reason (if they reason). You can agree on everything if you are partners, not freeloaders. Another question: what kind of gesheft is this?
        3. +3
          11 May 2020 08: 26
          Quote: 1976AG
          If everything is measured in rubles, then there was no need to come there at all, but since we undertook to defend Syria,

          This is unlikely ... What does it mean in your opinion: to defend Syria? Do we have an agreement with her on a military alliance? Now Assad is there, and tomorrow some Iranian henchman from Hezbollah. Remember Egypt and its forts in relation to the USSR, and others.
          The goal of the Russian Federation in Syria is not at alle not in the continuation of endless conflicts with the wide involvement of our aircraft, including and with Israel, and in terminating those, the destruction of Islamic terrorism potentially dangerous for the Russian Federation and the preservation of its influence in Syria, i.e. a substantial part of its influence throughout the Middle East. It is our influence, and the presence of other other countries in the region that want to use Syria for their own purposes, often not coinciding with ours, should be limited so much as much as possible. What are the goals in Syria, for example, Iran? Not only the fight against ISIS, that's for sure. A sufficiently strong army of the SAR will be formed, all there are pro-Iranian "Hezbollahs", etc. the militias should be free, and Israel's strikes are also pushing them to that.
          1. -2
            11 May 2020 09: 43
            "Now Assad is there" is a legitimate president and our army is present there at HIS request, that is, on LEGAL basis. What other agreements do you need? This is COMPLETELY enough. According to the statements of our president, our troops are on the territory of Syria to fight terrorism and to preserve the statehood of Syria. But for some reason you only remember what concerns the fight against ISIS, and the rest either you do not notice, or you pretend that you did not notice. But reality does not depend on your interpretations.
            1. +9
              11 May 2020 10: 34
              Well, as if Dad Assad, came to power is not entirely legal. Well, this assad will unscrew the little head as it seems to me.
          2. -2
            11 May 2020 14: 25
            Quote: Alekseev
            The goal of the Russian Federation in Syria is not at all the continuation of endless conflicts with the wide involvement of our armed forces, including and with Israel, and in the termination thereof

            in Syria, the goal is one - OIL, the rest is "on the way"
          3. +1
            13 May 2020 01: 43
            Quote: Alekseev
            The goal of the Russian Federation in Syria is not at all the continuation of endless conflicts with the wide involvement of our armed forces, including and with Israel, and in the cessation of such, the destruction of Islamic terrorism potentially dangerous for the Russian Federation and the preservation of its influence in Syria, i.e. a substantial part of its influence throughout the Middle East.

            Russia's real interest is to keep Tartus and Khmeimim intact and preferably calm. Everything else is from the evil one.
            Yes, Israel is not an ally of Russia, but Iran is also not an ally, and after the complete elimination of ISIS and other Islamic-terrorist Sunni gangs, it will cease to be even a fellow traveler. Sooner or later, the interests of Russia and Iran will clash with their foreheads. As for Assad, will he take the side of Russia against Iran? It is doubtful. So Russia, given the above interest, Israel’s actions to deter Iran are at least not to the detriment, but, as it were, not at all beneficial. And it is not in vain that Netanyahu contacts Putin as often as he does with Trump, and sometimes even more often.
        4. +6
          11 May 2020 09: 22
          In this case, a single Jew can be quite loyal to the country of residence, he can work for her, he can fight for her, but in a critical situation of choice, loyalty to Israel as a Jewish state can outweigh loyalty to the country of residence.

          Loyal not just to the country of residence, but to the political leadership. It is no coincidence that the vast majority of Jews living in our country are Zaputins. But I wonder who these Jews will be loyal to. in a critical situation? What is the price of these patriots-Zaputinians (all these Solovyovs, Pozdner, Abramovich, Vekselberg, Fridman ...)?

          By the way, on our site, too, Jews living in Russia are patriots and Zaputinists.
          1. -11
            11 May 2020 09: 59
            Quote: Stas157
            By the way, on our site, too, Jews living in Russia are patriots and Zaputinists.

            And what, to be for Putin-is it already denial and completely sucks?
            You still say that the Jews chose Putin, while everyone else was against it.
            1. +3
              11 May 2020 10: 32
              Quote: Arpad
              And what, being for Putin is already negatively and completely sucks?

              Notice, I didn’t say that! But put the right questions. I do not presume to judge the degree, but the rating of our president is steadily declining. Even according to official VTsIOM data.
            2. -4
              11 May 2020 11: 36
              Yes it is negative
              1. -9
                11 May 2020 13: 58
                Quote: Kronos
                Yes it is negative

                Well this is your opinion, my opinion is the opposite.
                I wish Putin to carry out everything that he intended to zero, because in my understanding he is the most adequate and there is no replacement for him.
                He understands the situation in BV and the tasks of Russia in the region are much better than all the couch experts combined.
          2. -3
            11 May 2020 17: 26
            Quote: Stas157

            Loyal not just to the country of residence, but to the political leadership. It is no coincidence that the vast majority of Jews living in our country are Zaputins. But I wonder who these Jews will be loyal to. in a critical situation? What is the price of these patriots-Zaputinians (all these Solovyovs, Pozdner, Abramovich, Vekselberg, Fridman ...)?

            By the way, on our site, too, Jews living in Russia are patriots and Zaputinists.

            The question is accepted - in the so-called. In a critical situation, I will apply against the "revolutionaries" all the skills I have gained from the dastardly oppression of the aspirations of the Palestinian and Lebanese peoples, while trying to add seven to eight zeros to my pennies, knowing full well that I can be zero - I AM fellow
            1. +2
              11 May 2020 18: 48
              Quote: Krasnodar
              The question is accepted - in the so-called. in a critical situation I will use all the skills against the "revolutionaries"

              Oh, by the way! After all, I meant you in my comment))) hi
              1. -2
                11 May 2020 19: 46
                In fact - first to ensure the safety of the family, and then watch what is happening - like everyone else, in principle. Well, where to play ahead of the curve. )))
        5. +1
          11 May 2020 11: 22
          If everything is measured in rubles, then there was no need to come there at all

          Yes, as if on the contrary, if everything was measured in rubles, it was necessary to come there. So they came.
          This is much more expensive than money, as from now on they will begin to listen to what Russia says.

          There is nothing more expensive than money, because "high cost" is measured in money :) It is profitable (in rubles) to have a reputation as a defender, do not know what - we have. Unprofitable - we do not have. So it turns out that it is profitable to enter Syria in rubles - we entered. But punishing Israel, which is quite sensible, in my opinion, the article pointed out, is unprofitable. So we don't punish.
          Recall how we (well, the majority, as far as I know, although this is very, very subjective) do not like it when we help someone for this. Here is an example that we can help ourselves first of all.
        6. 0
          13 May 2020 15: 47
          In Syria, not Russia says, respected 1976AG. In Syria, eloquently ,, says, a young and stupid state ,, Capitalist Russia ,, (RK), that for 30 years now, it has been taxis in the territory of the ancient and respected country of Russia.
          Jews play a DETERMINING role in the foreign and domestic policy of the Republic of Kazakhstan. Adults are misled by the Russian surname of the famous ex-president of the Republic of Kazakhstan? They, and, don’t realize, that he is a German Jew? What a pleasant, pure, and pink-cheeked, and most importantly, sincere, naivety! In fact, for 30 years, Jews have been leading Russia into, "a brighter tomorrow." It would be strange to see UNBEATABLE DIVISIONS between the Republic of Kazakhstan and Israel.
          The Republic of Kazakhstan merely portrays love of Orthodoxy, while Israel, with arms and legs, holds on to its Tradition, for its Contents. Therefore, the state of Israel is objectively stronger than the state of the Republic of Kazakhstan in spirit. It, like that serious male fighter, is able to go to the end. ,, Has our plane crashed? Your ... will fall literally the next day! ,, Weak, weak-willed and, excuse me, ,, rotten, the state of the Republic of Kazakhstan is not ready for such serious, disassembly. Therefore ,, lets out snot ,, and keeps quiet about ,, weak bombing once a month ,,
          How is it impossible to solve a problem? What kind of pessimism in the words of the author of the article? ,, Problem ,, far-fetched. And her decision is simple.
          .... Maybe the author of the commentary is a bad historian, but he does not know examples of Orthodox Orthodox believing the state of Israel ... Therefore ... No need to
          confusion. IN ISRAEL SHOULD LEAD THE JEWS, IN RUSSIA - RUSSIANS. A simple, proven millennium recipe ,,.
          ... The proverb is excellent ,, in the theme ,,: ,, Do not open your mouth to another loaf! ,,
      2. +2
        11 May 2020 07: 41
        Here, abstracting now from the actions of Israel, for it is a separate
        and a rather voluminous topic. A question
        The incident, as usual, caused waves of indignation on the part of the Russian public, directed mainly at the Russian authorities, which cannot protect the state under protection - Syria, from impudent Israeli attacks.

        Interestingly, someone from this public can name a document which indicates that we "took under the protection of the state of Syria"? Moreover, and "pledged" to protect it from everyone, including Israel?
        From the agreement on friendship and cooperation of 08.10.1980/XNUMX/XNUMX
        "Article 6
        In the event of situations that threaten the peace or security of one of the Parties or create a threat to peace or a violation of peace and security throughout the world, the High Contracting Parties will immediately contact each other in order to coordinate their positions and cooperate to eliminate the threat and restore peace. . "
        And finally in 2015
        "Assad, in a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin, asked" to send an air force to Syria as part of the Russian initiative on counter terrorism".
        Where is here about protecting Syria from all, all, all?
        1. +5
          11 May 2020 08: 07
          Quote: Mitroha
          I wonder if anyone from this public can name the document

          How's the old joke go? "They beat on the face, not on the passport" (c)
        2. +5
          11 May 2020 08: 10
          And can you name a document that, without the sanction of the UN Security Council, entitles one state to strike at another? But the state against which strikes are carried has every right to self-defense.
          1. 0
            11 May 2020 08: 15
            Quote: 1976AG
            But the state against which strikes are carried has every right to self-defense.

            Quite right, and Syria has every right to respond to aggression against it in all available ways. But, excuse me, where does Russia come from?
            1. +2
              11 May 2020 09: 46
              Quote: Mitroha
              Quote: 1976AG
              But the state against which strikes are carried has every right to self-defense.

              Quite right, and Syria has every right to respond to aggression against it in all available ways. But, excuse me, where does Russia come from?

              You really don’t know where Russia is? Well then read and remember. Without the help of Russia, Syria cannot ensure its security against external and internal aggression. That is why the Syrian president turned to Russia for help. The sixth year we are in Syria, and you still do not know basic things.
              1. +3
                11 May 2020 09: 59
                Quote: 1976AG
                That is why the Syrian president turned to Russia for help. The sixth year we are in Syria, and you still do not know basic things.

                I parry, dear.
                We’ve been in Syria for the sixth year, and you didn’t even bother to figure out why.

                Syrian President Bashar al-Assad appealed to the leadership of Russia with a request for rendering military assistance in the fight against the ISIS terrorist organization banned in the Russian Federation. This was stated by the head of the Kremlin administration Sergey Ivanov.
                "- I want to inform you that the President of the Syrian Arab Republic has addressed the leadership of our country with a request for military assistance. Thus, it can be stated that, of course, we must fight terrorism, we must unite efforts, but at the same time it is necessary to comply with the norms of international law , "- RIA Novosti quotes Ivanov's statement.

                November 2015, XNUMX
                Here the goals of the Russian Federation’s stay in Syria are clearly indicated.
                Quote: 1976AG
                Read and remember ..
                1. 0
                  11 May 2020 10: 07
                  Well, you just read it, and I also watched Putin’s speeches, explained everything clearly and more than once, and you read and calmed down in one source .. well, this is your right, but it doesn’t affect reality
                  1. +2
                    11 May 2020 10: 19
                    You would return to the first post and read what I wrote.
                    This is when / if Syria, represented by President Assad, turns to the Russian Federation with a request for support and military assistance in the fight against other states (and not terrorist entities) encroaching on the sovereignty of Syria, and Russia will agree to such assistance. Then and only then it will be possible to accuse Russia of inaction and assumption of attacks by Israel, Turkey and further on the list.
                    Until then, we have been helping Syria within the framework within which we were invited to this country.
                    Quote: 1976AG
                    you read in one source and calmed down

                    No need to fantasize about my actions.
                    1. +3
                      11 May 2020 17: 43
                      My "accusations" related to that part of the actions of our military when, having installed air defense systems, and then an automated control system, they began to shout that now Syria is not afraid of Israeli air raids, and when the raids continued, for some reason nothing was done to prevent them. Why then scream? By the way, you do not think that the air defense and ACS systems were delivered to combat terrorist drones, do you? Drones have been handled well before.
          2. +2
            11 May 2020 08: 35
            Quote: 1976AG
            And can you name a document that, without the sanction of the UN Security Council, entitles one state to strike at another? But the state against which strikes are carried has every right to self-defense.

            Especially if these countries are at war, launched by the head of the ruling National Socialist Party of Syria El Quatli in May 1948 fellow
            1. +4
              11 May 2020 10: 01
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Especially if these countries are at war, launched by the head of the ruling National Socialist Party of Syria El Quatli in May 1948

              How interesting...
              That is, Russia or Iran, being allies of Syria, can absolutely законно strike at Israel?
              1. -4
                11 May 2020 15: 26
                That's right)). I hope that by this happy moment you will move closer to the Black Sea Riviera - and haw along with me the consequences of a sort of light war with a microscopic adversary fellow
              2. 0
                11 May 2020 16: 50
                Not Allies, Shovels. As far as I know, the allied relations between Iran, Russia and Syria are not. These are your speculations.
          3. -4
            11 May 2020 10: 00
            Quote: 1976AG
            And you can name a document that without the sanction of the UN Security Council gives the right to one state to strike at another

            Of course, the state of war is called.
            There is such a thing, you know.
            1. -1
              11 May 2020 10: 13
              The state of war is a consequence of a violation of international law, not a document. It’s necessary to distinguish between such concepts, you know ...
              1. -3
                11 May 2020 10: 16
                [quote = 1976AG] The state of war is a consequence of a violation of international law [/ quote
                Nonsense of course about international law, or provide evidence
                Well, Syria violated it and rakes
                About the law
                [quote] The UN Charter, adopted in 1945, allows states to use force only for individual or collective self-defense or by decision of the UN Security Council in the event of a threat to peace. [/ quote]
                Read the story of who attacked, who defend themselves, the squirrel incident, etc.
                To the reading room - urgently
                1. +3
                  11 May 2020 10: 22
                  Well, for you, international law is nonsense ... I understand that the states constantly violate it ... But Syria did not violate it, but since the states do not like Assad, they have introduced all kinds of trash into its territory. In fact, of course, now it is not international law at the head, but the right of the strong .. There is a lot of evidence and if you have a desire, you will find them, and if you really pierce your eyes, then you will not recognize any facts.
                  1. -2
                    11 May 2020 11: 16
                    Quote: 1976AG
                    . But Syria did not violate

                    The war was prepared for a long time and carefully, and began with a sudden attack by the Egyptian and Syrian troops during the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. Egyptian and Syrian forces crossed the ceasefire lines on the Sinai Peninsula and the Golan Heights, and began to advance deep into Israel

                    learn materiel
          4. 0
            11 May 2020 12: 10
            Are you really so naive? The whole UN rotten institution !!! And in general, the right is always strong in the world !!! Oboatnog no one has yet proven
          5. +2
            11 May 2020 15: 07
            Quote: 1976AG
            And can you name a document that, without the sanction of the UN Security Council, entitles one state to strike at another?

            You, my dear, have forgotten (or do not know) that Israel and Syria are officially at war. Both Assad, both papa and son, rejected Israel’s offer to conclude a peace treaty. So the UN Security Council has nothing to do with it. Israel has a peace treaty with Egypt and Jordan. Relations are not simple, but the borders are calm, no one is bombing anyone.
            1. +2
              11 May 2020 17: 48
              Quote: shahor
              Quote: 1976AG
              And can you name a document that, without the sanction of the UN Security Council, entitles one state to strike at another?

              You, my dear, have forgotten (or do not know) that Israel and Syria are officially at war. Both Assad, both papa and son, rejected Israel’s offer to conclude a peace treaty. So the UN Security Council has nothing to do with it. Israel has a peace treaty with Egypt and Jordan. Relations are not simple, but the borders are calm, no one is bombing anyone.

              And you dear, can you also remind the terms of this agreement? Maybe then it will become clear why they rejected it. And so talk about "A", but about "B" for some reason they kept silent ..
              1. +1
                11 May 2020 23: 15
                Quote: 1976AG
                And you, my dear, can you also recall the terms of this agreement?

                Draft contracts are written in order to discuss them. The signed agreement is the result of compromises reached during the negotiations. I have already given examples - Egypt, Jordan. Assads showed a lack of state wisdom, abandoning negotiations in principle. Today Syria is hard, Israeli strikes do not ease the situation in the country ... But if they had signed an agreement earlier, or at least started to discuss it, then your appeals to the Law and the Security Council made sense. And so, a meaningless statement. Syria for Israel, formally an adversary in a war, military facilities on its territory are targets to be destroyed. What is incomprehensible here?
          6. 0
            11 May 2020 16: 45
            Quote: 1976AG
            And can you name a document that, without the sanction of the UN Security Council, entitles one state to strike at another? But the state against which strikes are carried has every right to self-defense.

            Which UN? Syria in 1948 declared war on Israel. After, she attacked several times, got a thrash, and fled for protection to the USSR. Where, and what side is the UN here, if Syria itself declared war, and itself did not want to sign a peace treaty when it was offered to it.
        3. -1
          11 May 2020 22: 00
          Excuse me, young man, are all of the above arguments valid for the protection of Russian-speaking citizens, for example, in the southeast of "Ukraine"?
          After all, the Maidan coup is also Jewish? (And it's true!).
          And from the Jesuit attacks on the USSR and on May 9 and Victory and the accusation of the occupation of Europe made by Jews both inside Russia and abroad, should be protected?
      3. +4
        11 May 2020 07: 44
        Quote: forest1
        See what trade turnover with Israel

        Look at the death toll of the Russian military. They die there also because of the active support of the terrorists by the Israelis.

        It's time to decide which is more important, people or dollars.
        1. -7
          11 May 2020 08: 03
          Well, decide decide. I don’t mind. You are here to sit on the site and - to solve foreign policy issues. I do not bother you in this.
          1. +2
            11 May 2020 08: 05
            Quote: forest1
            Well, decide decide. I don’t mind. You are here to sit on the site. To solve foreign policy issues. I do not bother you in this.

            You are trying in vain to portray public opinion as something completely insignificant.
            1. -3
              11 May 2020 08: 09
              But this I would not even think to do. I’m still called a liberalist (you yourself think I think). And I really believe in public opinion. But also I know that in different countries - public opinion weighs differently. Because in addition to public opinion, we need a determination to uphold it and good organization, as well as trust in society (the importance of this is most clearly revealed by the mathematical theory of games, for example, the classical problem of 5 pirates). And since in Russia I do not see any of this except public opinion. That I am skeptical about this.
              1. +3
                11 May 2020 08: 11
                Quote: forest1
                By the fact that in addition to public opinion, we need a determination to uphold it and good organization, as well as trust in society

                You just have such associates ... Humble yourself.
                1. 0
                  11 May 2020 08: 12
                  Well, for God's sake. Why are you only distracted by me? Stoke for Syria further.
                  1. +2
                    11 May 2020 08: 14
                    Quote: forest1
                    Why are you only distracted by me?

                    You are distracted by me. From the struggle for values, for which the face will soon be beaten in society laughing
            2. +1
              11 May 2020 14: 03
              Quote: Spade

              You are trying in vain to portray public opinion as something completely insignificant

              Public opinion is also expressed in the number of tourists visiting both Israel and Turkey.
              Tk niodin self-respecting person in a friendly country will not go to rest.
              Consequently, Mr. Shovels - you express your opinion exclusively and not at all.
        2. +2
          11 May 2020 08: 05
          Quote: Spade
          It's time to decide which is more important, people or dollars.

          First you need to determine who is asked this question?
          1. +3
            11 May 2020 08: 05
            Quote: Bez 310
            First you need to determine who is asked this question?

            Everybody.
            1. +5
              11 May 2020 08: 21
              Quote: Spade
              Everybody.

              This does not happen in war!
              For some, people are more important, for some - the fulfillment of tasks, and for others - dollars in the end. First decide who you expect an answer from.
              1. -7
                11 May 2020 08: 55
                Quote: Bez 310
                Quote: Spade
                Everybody.

                This does not happen in war!
                For some, people are more important, for some - the fulfillment of tasks, and for others - dollars in the end. First decide who you expect an answer from.

                The answer is simple, in my opinion, Russia is absolutely not interested in strengthening Iran in Syria and is not going to share with it the vector of influence on Assad.
                Israel’s attacks on Iran are in Russia's interests.
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                2. 0
                  11 May 2020 09: 17
                  Quote: Arpad
                  The answer is simple, in my opinion, Russia is absolutely not interested in strengthening Iran in Syria and is not going to share with it the vector of influence on Assad.

                  If you react to my comment, the question was - which is more important, people or dollars?
                  1. -3
                    11 May 2020 09: 49
                    Quote: Bez 310
                    In my comment, the question was - which is more important, people or dollars?

                    The question is not correct, I would say at the kindergarten level, this is how to compare soft with warm.
                    It's like - answer me a question - Yes or No.
                    “Have you stopped drinking in the morning?”
                    Everything is important both money and people.
                3. -6
                  11 May 2020 09: 37
                  Israel’s attacks on Syria in Russia simply do not care.
                  1. +3
                    11 May 2020 11: 07
                    No, do not care, they cause moral and political damage. We have already suffered losses from them.
                    They are tolerated.
                    And this is not forever.
                    1. +1
                      11 May 2020 12: 16
                      Good day namesake !!! I did not expect such an article from you !!! You always had common sense. But in this article ....
                      1. +4
                        11 May 2020 14: 05
                        Well, what options are there? Fight in full? Everything has its time, at least until no one makes any sudden movements on Idlib.
                        Iran itself could work out Israel from its territory, but it does not.

                        Although it would be interesting to look at their "rocket conveyor" ...
                      2. 0
                        11 May 2020 22: 15
                        Dear Alexander! I will express my point of view. Without a full-scale unearthly operation, Assad’s regime cannot be maintained. The country has a civil war. Assad’s troops formally control the territory, like the Wehrmacht Belarus during the WWII. You may not believe it, but strangely enough Assad suits Israel. For they don’t really want to get a barrel of gunpowder at their side. All those who claimed that Israel supported and helped ISIS (forbidden in the Russian Federation) are, to put it mildly, not smart people. And for Russia, Syria is now like that suitcase without a handle.
                      3. +3
                        11 May 2020 22: 49
                        Well, in general, practice says the opposite - Assad completely controls the western regions, these bandits are forced to make sorties there, and not vice versa. Block posts are everywhere, soldiers can walk through the streets without weapons, etc.
                        And in the eastern regions there is almost no population, and those who have remained horrified by what is happening to such an extent that they will accept Assad as pretty just for the sake of a pharmacy or paramedic in their village.
                      4. 0
                        12 May 2020 17: 47
                        All those who claimed that Israel supported and helped ISIS (forbidden in the Russian Federation) are, to put it mildly, not smart people.
                        Do not judge without understanding. And pay attention exclusively to the facts. And the facts speak against Israel. Their excuses are not only extremely impudent, as always, but also ridiculous. Special news Anna News, RT and others have repeatedly cited evidence of assistance to terrorists, including Israel.
                    2. -2
                      11 May 2020 12: 57
                      To whom do they cause moral damage?
                      Political - Duc Turkey, which occupied a piece of the Territory and the Americans, who took insolent oil, seem to inflict much greater damage ..
                      Losses are a blessed memory of the fallen, the losses did occur as a result of the Israeli raid, however this is war + politics - that in Antalya, in other parts of Hezbollah, the Persians are huddling with the Persians, and they are allowed to do this.
                      Who will not tolerate - the Turks, Amers, Kurds, Jews? All together? Of all the Jews only? laughing
                      1. +1
                        11 May 2020 14: 09
                        Everyone except the Americans will not tolerate. But in turn.
                        First Turks and Idlib.
                        Then we sit down and wait for Trump to crawl out of the local swamp. We are not actively letting him climb out, Americans must die in Iraq further, it is possible in Syria a little and the money of American taxpayers should be spent on this constantly, and the troops should be occupied.
                        That's when Trump does come out - there will be only one problem, Israeli raids.
                        I even think that at this moment they will end by themselves, all of a sudden, without reaching the zugunder.
                        But if not, then they will end.
                      2. -2
                        11 May 2020 15: 05
                        Oh, there are a lot of questions.
                        1) The Turks and Idlib - here it is necessary to inflict very large losses on them, such that a very sharp dissatisfaction with Erdogan arises. The question is whether the Syrians can inflict them - the Turks have a 21st century army. If not the Syrians, then who will go to push the army of the NATO country?
                        2) Wait for the withdrawal of amers from Iraq? )) Let's say they will bring out tomorrow, a considerable part to Syria - then what? Somehow their economy will not notice this, and for a kick out of the country, really big losses are needed
                        3) Israeli raids may stop tomorrow - if Hezbollah creeps out to Lebanon, and the IRGC to Tehran))
                        But, if necessary, they will bomb Syria, as in 2007 their object was demolished, visually and radiologically similar to a nuclear reactor fellow
                        4) You can finish them. Like everything in this world laughing The question is the price of the question. hi
                      3. +2
                        11 May 2020 16: 27
                        The question is whether the Syrians can inflict them - the Turks have a 21st century army.


                        We recently even saw her in business. Today, this suitcase without a handle only interferes with Erdogan, but he cannot leave the engo. Therefore, there will be remakes of the recent Syrian offensives.

                        Waiting for the withdrawal of amers from Iraq? )) Let's say they will bring out tomorrow, a considerable part to Syria - then what? Somehow their economy will not notice this, and for a kick out of the country, really big losses are needed


                        You do not read what I am writing to you - we need them to stay there and not go out. And not because their economy will not stand up to something, but because otherwise they will be able to throw more resources against us or China, depending on who wins the next election. We need them to have as many fronts as possible.

                        You can finish them. Like everyone else in the world laughing The question is the price of the issue.


                        I put on one captured pilot.
                      4. -3
                        11 May 2020 16: 45
                        1) About the Turks - debatable
                        2) For them, all these expenses and human resources are a drop in the bucket)). And against Russia and China, they will act differently - economic leverage.
                        3) Captive pilot - there will be years of courage. According to past precedents (Rona Arad, Lebanon), this has not changed anything. Maximum, they will release half of the Palestinian terrorugs from prison
                      5. +2
                        11 May 2020 18: 46
                        Maximum, they will release half of the Palestinian terrorugs from prison


                        If they are asked about this.
                      6. -1
                        11 May 2020 20: 01
                        If asked to give Hezbollah with the IRGC to settle in Syria, the answer will be clear)).
                        For you, this is abstract - prestige, geopolitical interests and more. For the Israelis - another direction of launching missiles at their peaceful place. Understand the difference hi
                      7. 0
                        11 May 2020 17: 09
                        The raids will not stop, but will intensify, and may well develop into a ground war. For Israel, Hezbollah and the Iranians on the Israeli-Syrian border are unacceptable. Therefore, along with raids, troops can also enter.
                      8. +2
                        11 May 2020 18: 51
                        Want to repeat Lebanon 2006? And if it works even worse than then? It was not for nothing that I pointed out at the beginning of the article that modern Israeli patriots confuse the special operation, which was prepared by a thousand people, and that three or four selected pilots performed along and across proven aircraft and a real war.
                      9. +2
                        11 May 2020 19: 30
                        You are a little unaware of Israeli realities. The conversation is not about how much this will be achieved, the conversation that there should not be Iranians on Israeli borders. It should not be so that Israel is ready for a full-fledged war with any enemy. And these are not statements by the Israeli patriot, as you unreasonably presented, this is a threat to the state from a fanatical regime with a messianic mood. Under Obama, Israel officially went against the American establishment, ready to reconcile with the claims of the ayatollah on nuclear weapons, although it remained alone. Israel will not tolerate the Iranians on its border, you have no doubt.
                      10. -2
                        11 May 2020 20: 04
                        Quote: timokhin-aa
                        Want to repeat Lebanon 2006? And if it works even worse than then? It was not for nothing that I pointed out at the beginning of the article that modern Israeli patriots confuse the special operation, which was prepared by a thousand people, and that three or four selected pilots performed along and across proven aircraft and a real war.

                        I am wildly sorry, but according to the balance of losses and the results of 99% of the world's armies and the media, including the Russian, it would be trumpeting for a great deal of help)). Israeli society is simply very militarized, therefore, considers this war stupidly conducted and prolonged laughing
                    3. -2
                      11 May 2020 14: 07
                      Quote: timokhin-aa
                      No, do not care, they cause moral and political damage. We have already suffered losses from them.
                      They are tolerated.
                      And this is not forever.

                      Russia suffered losses from the homeless actions of Syrian air defense, which shot down silt, half an hour after Israeli planes returned to their bases.
                      Iranians, Syrians - one field of a berry.
                      Specialists - shot down a Ukrainian plane and repeated their ship ---- warriors.
              2. +3
                11 May 2020 09: 13
                Quote: Bez 310
                For some, people are more important, for some - the fulfillment of tasks, and for others - dollars in the end. First decide who you expect an answer from.

                ------------------
                He recalled the aria of Prince Igor from Borodin’s opera of the same name:
                Oh give, give me freedom!
                I will be able to atone for my shame.
                I will save my honor and glory,
                I will save Russia from an enemy!


                "I will save my honor and glory, I will save Russia from the enemy!" The Russian prince wants to save honor, glory and the Motherland. Not ass and money like now.
                1. 0
                  11 May 2020 09: 51
                  Quote: Altona
                  The Russian prince wants to save honor, glory and homeland. And not ass and money as it is now.

                  Russia is not in Syria to protect Iran and Syria from Israel, but for a completely different purpose.
                  You would be better concerned with what Turkey is doing in Syria.
                  1. -1
                    11 May 2020 10: 41
                    Quote: Arpad
                    You would be better concerned with what Turkey is doing in Syria.

                    "I killed only ten, better deal with Chikatila"
                    The arguments are just class ...
                    1. -4
                      11 May 2020 14: 07
                      Quote: Spade
                      Quote: Arpad
                      You would be better concerned with what Turkey is doing in Syria.

                      "I killed only ten, better deal with Chikatila"
                      The arguments are just class ...

                      Kindergarten.
                  2. 0
                    12 May 2020 14: 18
                    Quote: Arpad
                    You would be better concerned with what Turkey is doing in Syria.

                    --------------------
                    Why do I need this? Turkey is engaged in the soft annexation of Idlib, since there is a pro-Turkish population represented by Turkoman. This is for you some kind of secret visible. I wrote about this a long time and more than once.
                    PS In general, I wrote about Borodin's opera and what questions of ethics and honor were. Then and now.
              3. +1
                11 May 2020 09: 53
                Quote: Bez 310

                This does not happen in war!
                For some, people are more important, for some - the fulfillment of tasks, and for others - dollars in the end. First decide who you expect an answer from.

                Blah blah blah.
                First you decide what, in fact, you wanted to write.
                And I’m afraid that not only I didn’t understand your deepest thought.
                laughing
                1. +1
                  11 May 2020 11: 17
                  Shovels!
                  He simplified his thought so that even you would understand.
                  Who should decide "... which is more important, people or dollars"?
        3. -1
          11 May 2020 08: 32
          By the way, I didn’t notice right away. What do you motivate the conflict with Israel, the more important you people. And that many Russian soldiers are dying. It’s even strange for me that you don’t understand which way the number of dead Russian military will change in the conflict with Israel.
          1. -3
            11 May 2020 09: 51
            Quote: forest1
            It’s even strange for me that you don’t understand which way the number of dead Russian military will change in the conflict with Israel.

            They will be less.
            This is elementary.
            1. -1
              11 May 2020 09: 56
              Clearly understood
            2. 0
              11 May 2020 12: 19
              Um ... You obviously forgot the year 1967 .... Wiped the nose of the USSR .... Let's be objective
        4. -5
          11 May 2020 10: 01
          Quote: Spade
          They die there also because of the active support of the terrorists by the Israelis.

          Israel or Turkey?
          You, shovels, have a question.
        5. -2
          11 May 2020 12: 14
          Dear Shovels !!! Do you, as a personnel military, see the meaning of the presence of our troops in the SAR?
        6. +3
          11 May 2020 16: 41
          Quote: Spade

          Look at the death toll of the Russian military. They die there also because of the active support of the terrorists by the Israelis.

          It's time to decide which is more important, people or dollars.

          As for supporting terror, whose cow would moo.
      4. +5
        11 May 2020 07: 46
        Israel has 3 times more turnover. in a good way, you should end up with the remnants of bandits in the north of Syria and stop active operations, and hang the conflict between Syria and Israel at the UN - let them sort it out.
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        2. -4
          11 May 2020 09: 53
          Quote: Archon
          Israel has 3 times more trade. in a good way, you should end up with the remnants of bandits in northern Syria

          It is strange that no one attended to the trade with Turkey and its role in relations with bandits in the north.
    2. +9
      11 May 2020 08: 13
      “After the October war, Brezhnev and Gromyko discussed what to do next in the Middle East. This conversation was recorded by Anatoly Chernyaev, deputy head of the international department of the CPSU Central Committee.
      Brezhnev said Gromyko:
      - It is necessary to restore diplomatic relations with Israel. On their own initiative.
      Gromyko cautiously remarked:
      - Arabs will be offended, there will be noise.
      Brezhnev answered very sharply:
      - They went to e ... mother! We have been offering them a sensible path for so many years. No, they wanted to fight. Please, we gave them the latest technology, which was not in Vietnam. They had double superiority in tanks and aircraft, triple superiority in artillery, and absolute in air defense and anti-tank weapons. So what? They were again gouged. And again they were draping. And again they cried out for us to save them. They put me down twice in the middle of the night to the telephone. He demanded that I immediately send troops. No! We will not fight for them. The people will not understand us ... "

      Leonid Mlechin “Why did Stalin create Israel?”
      1. +6
        11 May 2020 08: 45
        Leonid Ilyich saw the root.
        1. -3
          11 May 2020 09: 49
          Quote: Deniska999
          Leonid Ilyich saw the root.

          Under Leonid Ilyich, our borders were locked and there were no terrorists in our territory. Therefore, the situation is fundamentally different.
      2. +7
        11 May 2020 08: 52
        Yes, laziness Mlechin is still an authority with dual citizenship.
        1. +3
          11 May 2020 09: 16
          in addition to a Russian passport, Brilev also has a British document, Vladimir Pozner, as many as three foreign passports - Russia, France and the United States. Konstantin Ernst-Ekaterina Andreeva also has British citizenship not only a citizen of Russia - the TV presenter has a second Italian citizenship, she is married to a citizen Montenegro Dushan Perovich, therefore it is not surprising that the TV presenter also has Montenegrin citizenship - Vladimir Solovyov, who is called the "mouthpiece of Russian propaganda", also swore allegiance to the United States, denies all information regarding the fact that he also has Israeli citizenship.
    3. +2
      11 May 2020 10: 30
      When will the Israeli attacks on Syria stop?


      when they remove a friend of netanyu Putin.
    4. -2
      11 May 2020 11: 13
      Look how talkative, and why not in Syria, but at home at the computer, get ready and go, what's the question?
    5. +1
      11 May 2020 12: 45
      Quote: ROSS 42
      WHO MORE MOTHER-RUSSIA IS VALUABLE - ISRAEL OR SYRIA?

      Well, how can I tell you. So far, both two are valuable.
    6. -1
      11 May 2020 12: 51
      Substitute for whom? Steadily pouring slop on Russia senility? The chairs are moving under it ... Just about one will fall ... But Rostov is not rubber.
    7. +2
      11 May 2020 21: 51
      And all these, "so-called" "Russian oligarchs," alas, "Jews and citizens of Israel"!
      And how many are like them in the Administration of the President of the Russian Federation, the Government of the Russian Federation, the Federation Council and the State Duma, in the power ministries and special services, in hundreds of thousands of nonprofit organizations, in higher schools and universities of economics, all the former "Soviet intelligentsia", and everything else, like that everything on earth and underground, banks and stock exchanges ...
      Yes, the whole Jewish army in action!
      PS This is just my personal opinion!
    8. 0
      12 May 2020 17: 17
      WHO MORE MOTHER-RUSSIA IS VALUABLE - ISRAEL OR SYRIA?

      Israel is unambiguous.
      You do not want Russia to become an Islamic state?

      Yes, in fact, we are in Syria at the invitation of Israel, together with the Alawites we protect Zion from Muslims.
  2. -2
    11 May 2020 06: 22
    I read such crap. Heel of Israeli aircraft drop to the ground and the Jews do not want to spoil the petty, as the article says.
    Timokhin, it seems, is not a Jewish surname, although Soloviev is definitely Russian.
    1. +1
      11 May 2020 09: 53
      Quote: Ros 56
      Heel of Israeli aircraft drop to the ground and the Jews do not want to spoil the petty

      That’s for sure, it’ll start big
    2. +4
      11 May 2020 11: 09
      You’ll bet your life on the fact that five planes at a time will not provoke them to a full-fledged strike, but will they make them retreat?
  3. +5
    11 May 2020 06: 26
    Ostap carried. But Israel, like the elusive Joe, doesn’t need anyone to fuck, they are afraid of him and suffer. I would like to tell the author, read more, about Hezbollah’s arsenals, tens of thousands of different missiles that are directed against Israel, Iran’s supply of Hamas missiles to Gaza. Mass deliveries of long-range missiles to Syria to pro-Iranian groups, missiles not used in battles. And the author discusses Russian attack by Israeli nuclear missiles, crazy what you take.
  4. -3
    11 May 2020 06: 28
    Ballistic missile-based areas are located in the Negev desert and are relatively well protected

    lol Well, yes, it was built specifically there - it’s hard to get there, especially from Sinai and Jordan, it’s hard to hit with nuclear charges fellow
    Russia is not an exception here either: the number of Jewish volunteers who are always ready to help the Israeli special services is huge in our country. In addition, there is another factor - the masses of Jews from Russia who left for Israel did not turn out to be from Russian citizenship. These people can enter the country at any time and no one can stop them. What will they do here is an open question. Quite a lot of young people from Israel, after doing military service there, then return to Russia for permanent residence and remain here. No one controls them, and this is impossible due to the limited resources of special services.

    What are we doing? Spy laughing
    But when trying to attack anti-aircraft systems, Israel began to lose. Those that he did not have before, dozens of cars in a matter of days. As a result, having weighed all the pros and cons, the Israelis quietly retreated. Less than three weeks passed between the last Israeli plane to fall and the signing of a ceasefire
    A total of 13 Israelis were shot down, Egypt started the war, Israel wanted to end it as soon as possible - unlike the Arabs. )))
    1. -2
      11 May 2020 06: 32
      And what is wrong? Of course in the Negev. I even know one such base. מ.ק .22 They even shot a film about her.
      1. -2
        11 May 2020 06: 42
        Of course, this is so. And the aircraft carrier stands on the Dead Sea. זרג מעופף called.
    2. +1
      11 May 2020 11: 10
      In total, 13 Israelis were shot down,


      And about ten of them - almost simultaneously. Which led to.
      1. -3
        11 May 2020 13: 01
        By the end of Egypt's war of attrition, which he hoped to return Sinai? laughing
        1. +2
          11 May 2020 13: 58
          Yes, and in which Israel won "on points" - caused much more damage to Egypt than it received in return.
          1. -3
            11 May 2020 14: 24
            Holding a bunch of people, mostly a lot of able-bodied reservists, constantly under arms, paying each of them a monthly salary from the place of work)). From the state budget, by the way. What Nasser sought.
            But if you want to prove something to someone - the battle between the pilots was July 30, the last Israeli plane was shot down by Soviet air defense on August 3, a cease-fire came on August 7. Losses in 13 (according to some sources, 12) aircraft from the actions of Soviet air defense were inflicted from July 30 to August 7.
            This is a very bad moment - Soviet war songs, even songs from films of the 30s, were translated into Hebrew in Israel, founded by the socialists - the antics of Ingushetia, today Israelis are considered their own, they are called "songs of the Motherland." Nasser was waiting for Rommel, at one time. Syrians - it's generally better to keep silent about them, especially a day after the 75th anniversary of the Victory. And it is better to forget about this and not associate with today. hi
            1. +4
              11 May 2020 15: 11
              Holding a bunch of people, mostly a lot of able-bodied reservists, constantly under arms, paying each of them a monthly salary from the place of work))


              Well, until the peace with Saddat, this remained so, and until 1967 too.

              Do not get it wrong. I am not against Israel.
              But we "cover" Assad, and sooner or later your injections will have to be stopped. It's just no options.
              1. -3
                11 May 2020 15: 48
                No way laughing
                Mobilization - May 1967
                An increased call - say, a month and a half instead of one in a year - from 1969 to 1970 - from one to 3 months a year. From August 7, 1970 to October 1973, again, about a month in a year. Here in such proportions. )))
                According to "we cover Assad" - the Persians will be removed, everything will stop. You can't solve anything here by force - Israel is at home, booms and any money - from overseas, among other things. You can, of course, provoke a massive shelling from Gaza and Lebanon on a laywoman, then, after a Jewish response, condemn Israel at the UN and bash CNN and BBC magazine with Qatar with anti-Israeli pamphlets, provoke EU sanctions, that is, by waging a hybrid war to distract from Syria, but the rest is from the category of fantasy.
                1. +2
                  11 May 2020 16: 05
                  By "we cover Assad" - the Persians will be removed, everything will stop.


                  Will not be removed. The Asadov clan has been cooperating with them since the beginning of the 80s, and at least once they provided him with physical survival.
                  So the Persians are there forever. In what format is this an open question. Let's just say that there will be no Hezbollah missiles and bases in stable and controlling Syria.
                  And intelligence, for example, will never leave there. Hezbollah's logistics is forever, too.
                  And Israel, with its support of the United States and the terrorist forces, also contributed to this sad scenario.
                  And now he makes it.

                  but the rest is from the category of fiction.


                  I think that really everything will be decided on the phone once, but if not, then in one way or another they will prevent you from doing what you are doing now.
                  1. +2
                    11 May 2020 16: 22
                    And what kind of terror does Israel support - the greens who were bombed by Assad and the VKS, fighting the blacks, the blacks who were bombed by the States, the Britons, the Franks, the VKS, Assad, Hale Avir and other Jordanians who are fighting the greens? laughing
                    The only warlocks there are Liva Forasan El Julan, or the Knights of the Golan. These are residents of border villages, anti-Assad, because from the authorities, for objective reasons, by the way, they didn’t see anything good, because of the Civil War — besides trying to remove taxes in exchange for ... nothing. They are beneficial to the Jews; they create a certain enclave free of Hezbollah. There are also Syrian Druze - Israel supports them for internal reasons, under the pressure of its own Druze community. Well, with others?
              2. -2
                11 May 2020 19: 48
                Quote: timokhin-aa
                Do not get it wrong. I am not against Israel.
                But we "cover" Assad, and sooner or later your injections will have to be stopped. It's just no options.

                you are right, or the injections will stop or the roof will go.
  5. +10
    11 May 2020 06: 29
    Today in VO will not be bored. lol For discussion, a favorite topic on the fight against Israel, Zionists and Jews was provided.
  6. 0
    11 May 2020 06: 36
    Honestly, I did not like the article. It seriously discusses the war with Israel, albeit purely hypothetically. But this is completely unrealistic. Who needs this? What is there to fight for? For Syria? For geopolitical prestige? How many of our Russian children perished for this prestige in Afghanistan, and indeed Syria is no small number. People need to be protected and thought about protecting their borders in the first place, and not talk about a hypothetical conflict over distant lands. In addition, we now really just can’t deploy a large military force in Syria. How to transfer it there? How to supply? Israeli air raids are, of course, banditry and assistance to terrorists, but escalation is even worse, so the current situation will continue. Here is what the author correctly noted - this is what does not need to be substituted. Let the main concern for repelling air raids lie with the Syrians, let Iran harness it too, because it has air defense systems, there are fighters, and in the end, the IRGC fighters die in Syria. And we can help with weapons, though not for free.
    1. 0
      11 May 2020 06: 52
      Quote: Dmitry from Voronezh
      let Iran harness it too, because it has air defense systems, there are fighters, in the end, the IRGC fighters die in Syria. And we can help with weapons, though not for free.

      Iran has sunk its transporter during exercises. The missile didn’t get there, the whole crew died.
      1. 0
        11 May 2020 07: 53
        Not exactly, from a neighboring topic
        According to recent reports, the missile accidentally landed in the ship "Konarak", which led to the flooding of the ship. If you believe the data presented, then two people died as a result of rocket fire, several dozen were injured.
    2. +2
      11 May 2020 07: 54
      Quote: Dmitry from Voronezh
      Who needs this? What is there to fight for? For Syria? For geopolitical prestige?

      Have you forgotten those times when you could even beat the Russian ambassador? Not to mention ordinary citizens ...
      This is the clear expression of "geopolitical prestige"
      1. +3
        11 May 2020 08: 50
        Lopatov, Russia Syria is needed only for two purposes - a military presence in the Mediterranean and the disposal of as many Russian-speaking barmels as possible.
        Russia needs Israel for two reasons - access to modern Western technologies during the sanctions (the only developed country that has not joined them, I dare to recall) and as a joint body with the Russian Federation regarding the history of WWII forces that no one in the West would dare because of the Holocaust blame the lies.
        Therefore, to climb into the grater between the Arabs, many times letting the Russians and the Jews, with whom visa-free and five flights a day (for 2016) only to Moscow, not counting other cities in Russia, no one will.
        1. +2
          11 May 2020 09: 49
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Russia needs Israel for two reasons - access to modern Western technologies during the sanctions

          Yeah ....
          I do remember...
          The drones sold. A generation worse than those received by Azerbaijan.
          Because the United States is only allowed.
          And yes, that was before all the sanctions.

          Quote: Krasnodar
          and in solidarity with the Russian Federation regarding the history of WWII forces

          laughing
          Who is in agreement with?
          With a Major Ally?
          Did Israel at least somehow react to Washington’s demarche?

          With such "allies" and enemies are not necessary.
          1. 0
            11 May 2020 09: 57
            There are not only drones, not only and not so much in the military sphere, although about the military there were still topics
            What about Washington’s demarche - is it possible in more detail? )) And who said that Israel is an ally of Russia?
            1. +3
              11 May 2020 10: 39
              Quote: Krasnodar
              There are not only drones, not only and not so much in the military sphere, although about the military there were still topics

              laughing
              Precisely, exactly.
              Vegetables
              On which Israel is robustly profitable, occupying a niche lost by the Europeans due to sanctions.
              And nothing more "high-tech" and is not remembered

              Quote: Krasnodar
              What about Washington’s demarche - is it possible in more detail?

              laughing laughing laughing
              "Power in solidarity with the Russian Federation regarding the history of WWII" (c) did not notice anything?
              QED
              1. -1
                11 May 2020 13: 11
                laughing Lopatov, if you only know about radish and potatoes, this does not mean that nothing happens in trade between countries, including in the military sphere.
                So I am this one, a Russian who was lucky to live in Israel for 25 years - I also did not notice some demarches))
                1. -2
                  11 May 2020 13: 15
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  So I am this one, a Russian who was lucky to live in Israel for 25 years - I also did not notice some demarches))

                  "This Russian" How well you spoke and also taking into account that you have a bourgeois father-in-law who exploits 300 "Ivanov" and other gastro-beaters .. It's not a bad job here, look .. Why do you need Israel? laughing
                  Quote: ultra
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Russia needs Israel for two reasons - access to modern Western technologies during the sanctions

                  From this place can be more? laughing

                  Aha, so he told you these schemes .. He’s sitting here in Russia maliciously and grows greasy ..
                  1. -1
                    11 May 2020 13: 22
                    Absolutely.
                    And our master, as he gets drunk, orders to take out a chair on the porch and, well, communicate with serfs fellow
                    1. 0
                      11 May 2020 13: 44
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      Absolutely.
                      And our master, as he gets drunk, orders to take out a chair on the porch and, well, communicate with serfs fellow

                      You’re joking so far, but I’m sure it will be so, and with Uzi you will shoot in the air to work better?
                      There is some truth in every joke .. We are in Russia like no one else knows.
                      You’ve already become a general, and everyone laughs .. It’s not so bad.
                      1. -3
                        11 May 2020 13: 57
                        But I appreciated your selfless refusal to deserve the rank of Major General of the Military Review soldier
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                  2. +2
                    11 May 2020 13: 25
                    By the way. An interesting problem. A certain class of Russian-speaking Israelis was formed ... having influence. Both in their regions, and generally on the worldview.
                    1. +1
                      11 May 2020 13: 48
                      Quote: Shahno
                      By the way. An interesting problem. A certain class of Russian-speaking Israelis was formed ... having influence. Both in their regions, and generally on the worldview.

                      Pasha is silent for God's sake, he himself licked them here on the site and so on .. Here and catch their "friends" in all their glory .. with malicious smiles .... fool
                    2. -1
                      11 May 2020 14: 04
                      Prior to that, a class of English-speaking Israelis had formed, among them was Obama's advisor - Ron Eshusmo, Natanyaga and Romney were a companion in the furniture business ... and he was friends with Kushnir's dad, and German-speaking "Israelis" before them ... Arlozorov got into trouble with Magda, who Goebbels, and the Partyigenosse called him "student Hans" in his diaries. laughing in the Roman Empire, decrees - to expel Jews obsessed with Christianity from Rome ... etc. )))
        2. +2
          11 May 2020 13: 05
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Russia needs Israel for two reasons - access to modern Western technologies during the sanctions

          From this place can be more? laughing
          1. 0
            11 May 2020 13: 13
            Yes, all garbage - different processors, chips, know how lol
            1. +2
              11 May 2020 13: 38
              Well, as I understand it, nothing concrete, you can not name. hi
              1. -2
                11 May 2020 13: 53
                Nope. laughing Moreover, I don’t even understand this request
            2. -1
              11 May 2020 13: 51
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Yes, all garbage - different processors, chips, know how lol

              And there he helps the father-in-law on plantations, where 300 Ivanov are plowed. He set up cameras and fines, if he straightened his back .. hi
              And know how .. I know this, throw a sucker Or as you say, "I know how .." .. Ugh damn ...
              1. -2
                11 May 2020 14: 06
                Why so cruel? )))
                Just playing Wilhelm Tell ..
    3. +2
      11 May 2020 12: 29
      Quote: Dmitry from Voronezh
      Honestly, I did not like the article. It seriously discusses the war with Israel, albeit purely hypothetically. But this is completely unrealistic. Who needs this? What is there to fight for?

      Listen to this!
      After all, if the stars are lit -
      means - it is necessary for someone?
      So - someone wants them to be?
      So - someone calls these spittle
      a pearl?
      V. Mayakovsky.
      I agree with you.
      Today's journalism has moved into a more profitable and bold informational propaganda.
      Real events are taken that which is not desirable to know is hushed up, but what can set fire to the "patriots" are turned in the direction from where they shout "Hurray"
      I do not even want to comment on the "conclusions", only two excerpts from the history, so that it would be clearer, which the author seemed to "forget" about.
      1973 year
      On October 24, the Soviet leadership warned Israel "of the gravest consequences" in the event of its "aggressive actions against Egypt and Syria." At the same time, Leonid Brezhnev sent an urgent telegram to Richard Nixon, in which he assured the American side that if it was passive in resolving the crisis, the USSR would be faced with the need to "urgently consider the matter of taking the necessary unilateral steps." An increased combat readiness of 7 divisions of the Soviet airborne troops was declared. In response, a nuclear alert was announced in the United States.
      Are there many people who want Russia today to start a world war for Iran?
      1983
      "The Israelis jammed their radio networks and radars, and the" blinded "Syrian pilots fell under the sudden gifts of Israeli air-to-air missiles capable of hitting targets from long ranges and from various angles."
      Further, General Yashkin remarks:
      “The reader may ask, why did we, Soviet specialists, not help the Syrians to achieve a reaction equal to that which the Israelis reached?
      My answer is: we could not do this.
      All receivers of the Syrian complexes were suppressed by very high interference
      density in the entire frequency range. And in order to fight them, it was necessary not
      less than 20-30 times to weaken their power.didn't have them and we
      Unfortunately, the Syrians did not have such opportunities.
      A little reminder, it was the USSR!
      1. 0
        11 May 2020 13: 56
        In response, a nuclear alert was announced in the United States.
        Are there many people who want Russia today to start a world war for Iran?


        Nevertheless, the loading of the Marine Corps on the Black Sea Fleet began realistically, but it was Israel and the United States that pulled the leash — why Israeli tanks never entered Cairo.
        Exhale.
        War is not only radio interference.
        You can work out cruise missiles in military towns with pilots in such a way that you won’t have to conquer air dominance.
        You can block the supply of fuel to the country and wait a bit.
        You can cut down all power plants with rocket launchers and also wait a bit.
        The options are very different.
        War with Russia always goes wrong, you can’t be ready for it, in principle, no one can.
        To defeat Russia, you must wait for its collapse, as in the 90s and then fight with it when it is technically incapable of anything, and - an important condition - it does not want to fight.
        Or in the classics - to have a numerical superiority / fire superiority in forces in all battles and operations.
        If there are no such terms for success, then get ready with blood anyway.
        1. +1
          11 May 2020 14: 48
          Quote: timokhin-aa
          Nevertheless, the loading of the Marine Corps on the Black Sea Fleet began realistically, but it was Israel and the United States that pulled the leash — why Israeli tanks never entered Cairo.

          Dear, I did not describe any fights and reasons, I just pointed out the author’s approach to the events that take place in Syria and what the author thinks.
          Quote: timokhin-aa
          You can work out cruise missiles in military towns with pilots in such a way that you won’t have to conquer air dominance.

          Yes, of course, the question is who will decide to do this for the sake of what or whom and how it will end.
          Quote: timokhin-aa
          To defeat Russia, you must wait for its collapse, as in the 90s and then fight with it,

          After the collapse, there’s no need to fight, we have already seen this.
          Quote: timokhin-aa
          Or in the classics - to have a numerical superiority / fire superiority in forces in all battles and operations.

          I do not want to enter into debates on this subject.
          LITTLE REMARK.
          Modern Russia cannot be compared with the USSR in any indicator.
          And all that remains is nuclear weapons and no one wants to bring conflicts to this.
          1. 0
            11 May 2020 15: 15
            Modern Russia cannot be compared with the USSR in any indicator.


            Modern Russia is much more dangerous for its enemies than the USSR was, albeit less.
            1. -1
              11 May 2020 18: 43
              Quote: timokhin-aa
              Modern Russia is much more dangerous

              I agree.
              If you stick to the proverb
              TELL WHO YOUR FRIEND .........
        2. +2
          11 May 2020 15: 47
          Quote: timokhin-aa
          why Israeli tanks never entered Cairo.

          Dear Alexander! I am pleased to read your articles on the naval theme, on aviation. I appreciate them. But- BV- this is not yours. I’ll tell you bluntly, don’t be offended, you have no idea what is happening there. Do you seriously believe that Israeli tankers were eager for Cairo and Damascus? What only formidable shouts from Moscow and Washington restrained them? This episode may seem private, but it testifies to the main thing - there is no military solution to the problem of the Middle East, attempts to go wherever they take — the USSR, the USA, Russia, Iran — will not lead to anything good. Sorry, but I consider your attempts to analyze the situation ... to be a failure .. And statements about the mood of the Jewish diasporas in the world are far-fetched and irrelevant to reality.
          1. +2
            11 May 2020 15: 51
            You know, if I were an Israeli tanker in Egypt at that moment, I would very much be eager for Cairo. To cramps.
            There was no question about Damascus.
            In fact, Israel, having the opportunity to complete the defeat of Egypt, did not do this, after which diplomacy began to work.
            It was real.
            But the fact that the United States would have delivered a nuclear attack on the USSR, if it had interfered in this war, as my opponent thought above, it would not have been accurate.
            1. +1
              11 May 2020 16: 13
              Quote: timokhin-aa
              There was no question about Damascus.

              And I specifically mentioned Damascus. The situation is one to one. A tank breakthrough, 40 km to the capital, there is nothing for Assad Papa to hide behind, and here is a saving (for everyone!) Shout from Washington. Assad and Israeli generals wiping sweat from his forehead ... Passed by ... everyone. The main thing is that all, to a greater or lesser extent, have preserved their face. Middle East, however. Could you take Cairo? Or Damascus? Or bomb Tel Aviv? Sure, not a problem! The question is, then what? This is later; nobody needs it. I think today. Therefore, it is not necessary ... to add gasoline.
              1. +1
                11 May 2020 18: 55
                Tank breakthrough, 40 km to the capital, there is nothing for Assad Papa to hide behind


                Iraqis, Jordanians ...
                And the Syrians themselves still had strength. I once read a transcript of a conversation between Golda Meir and Kissinger, I don’t remember, now I can clearly see how everything hung in the balance even after the Israeli counteroffensive.
            2. 0
              11 May 2020 22: 18
              Quote: timokhin-aa
              In fact, Israel, having the opportunity to complete the defeat of Egypt,

              You made the right remark.
              "But- BV- this is not yours"

              The military doctrine of the state of Israel was developed in 1949, after the victory of Israel in the War of Independence.
              Today it is the basis for the aging of modern military doctrine, which periodically changes due to the changing situation in the region.
              But the foundation remains the same and one of the points:
              "Israel's dispute with neighboring states is not about settling borders, but about the fact that the enemy does not accept the very existence of a Jewish state. Israel's opponents will wage a war of annihilation. It is almost impossible to completely destroy the enemy on the battlefield. Considering Israel's geographical position, as well as a significant superiority of the enemy in military equipment and manpower, Israel can count on victory only if the enemy's military infrastructure is quickly disabled, so that for many years it could not restore it. "
              This is what you saw in all wars.
              Here is what the Chief of the IDF General Staff Operations Directorate, Major General Aaron Haliva, answered in an interview:
              - How is the IDF preparing for the day after the pandemic?

              "Let me tell you a secret: the Chief of General Staff has been working for a month and a half to prepare a new strategic doctrine for the State of Israel, for the IDF. Next week there will be a two-day conference of senior officers for the first presentation of the main directions. There will be group discussions, we want to hear their views before by how the chief of staff proceeds to finalize the new strategic military doctrine.
              This is a huge drama. If the army is forced to change military doctrine just a year and a half after the current doctrine was approved, it means that colossal changes are taking place. This will have strategic implications. Is the likelihood of a new war higher or lower? Is it worth the risk or not? All this affects multi-year plans, purchases, exercises ... The IDF is making very deep calculations. "
              If you want to write real analytical material about Israel, read more information and not only in Russian. And then the next review will be more professional
              Good luck.
              1. +1
                11 May 2020 22: 51
                Israel can count on victory only if the enemy’s military infrastructure is quickly disabled, so that for many years he couldn’t restore it


                And when did it happen, huh?
                In 1967, and even with an interference fit.
                "Half-time"
                1. 0
                  11 May 2020 23: 48
                  Quote: timokhin-aa
                  "Half-time"

                  I understand YOU, you will not be far away on this horse!
        3. 0
          11 May 2020 19: 57
          Quote: timokhin-aa
          To defeat Russia, you must wait for its collapse, as in the 90s and then fight with it when it is technically incapable of anything, and - an important condition - it does not want to fight.

          there are many in the military who are confident that the Anglo-Saxons are just waiting for the moment to capture Russia.
          if so, why didn’t you use the comfortable 90s?
          1. +2
            11 May 2020 20: 38
            they used, don't you know?
  7. +12
    11 May 2020 06: 38
    This article is a collection of incorrect ones (starting from the fact that the goals that were destroyed the last time were not in the Homs province, but in the Halab province) and often mutually exclusive statements on the basis of which conclusions are made absolutely illogical and not tied to the real state of things.
    1. +2
      11 May 2020 06: 43
      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      This article is a collection of incorrect ones (starting from the fact that the goals that were destroyed the last time were not in the Homs province, but in the Halab province) and often mutually exclusive statements on the basis of which conclusions are made absolutely illogical and not tied to the real state of things.

      This May 4, under Aleppo, the bunker was covered.
      1. 0
        11 May 2020 07: 06
        Sorry, my mistake. On May 1, a missile assembly workshop was bombed. May 4 research center / factory near Aleppo.
    2. +1
      11 May 2020 06: 44
      A person has this view of what is happening - I liked the most about the hundred thousand hidden Iranian Jews recorded by Armenians and Persians)).
      1. +2
        11 May 2020 09: 00
        Teheran children - a group of more than 1 Jewish refugees, including more than 200 children, from Poland.
        At the same time (1939), Canada (and not only) did not accept the ship with Jews fleeing Nazi persecution.
        Now about 100000.
        A Jew is one who is born of a Jewish mother and has not converted to another religion.
        ATTENTION-as well as a person who converted to Judaism.
        The indicated number lived until the 1979 revolution. And how many today no one knows.
        The same Marans in Spain adopted Christianity NOMINALLY, remaining Jews (albeit secretly) in essence.
        Truth is said to be somewhere in between
        And it's not so much about quantity as about "quality".
        1. -1
          11 May 2020 09: 14
          And the States refused to accept Jewish children and not only them. But what would happen to these children if it were not for the Consent operation, it is not clear.
          You can talk about crypto-Jews, hidden Jews, the institute of Jewish wives and the grandson of Ivan Evdokimovich Valtsman, about the superethnos of Tartaria, too, but this applies to reality the same way as Baba Yaga, the Little Humpbacked Horse and the Hut on Chicken Legs. fellow
        2. +1
          11 May 2020 13: 47
          ATTENTION-as well as a person who converted to Judaism.


          No it's ger-tsedek, not a Jew, but let’s say a semi-Jew. His children will be like Jews.
          1. -2
            11 May 2020 14: 37
            Rabbi Akiva and Herod the Great were also herdececs, which did not interfere with their career, so to speak laughing I, in theory, geroshav - but all one Jew fellow
            1. +1
              11 May 2020 15: 14
              Rabbi Akiva and Herod the Great were also herdececs, which did not interfere with their career, so to speak


              But there is a difference!

              ger-toshav - but all one Jew


              Well, to whom and gerosha Jew laughing
              1. -3
                11 May 2020 16: 39
                Rebbe Timokhin, you base your opinion on which Halachot? hi Waiting for quotes from the Mishnah, Gemara, etc.
                1. +2
                  11 May 2020 22: 52
                  "Do not wait" (c)
                  laughing laughing
                  Damn, I could not resist ....
                  1. -3
                    12 May 2020 08: 33
                    So I am surprised - where did such a deep knowledge come from a person who did not study in the yeshiva lol
      2. +3
        11 May 2020 11: 12
        Do you know that Jews in Iran even have a quota in parliament? Two places like.
        1. 0
          11 May 2020 11: 33
          Quote: timokhin-aa
          Do you know that Jews in Iran even have a quota in parliament? Two places like.

          And we have a whole Jewish Autonomous Oblast, still created by Stalin with three Jews .. laughing lol
          Well, they’re stumbling now ..
        2. -2
          11 May 2020 12: 41
          I know. Moreover, anti-Semitism is punishable there. )) Given the hundreds of thousands recorded by Ahperes and Persians laughing
          1. +1
            11 May 2020 14: 30
            You are hehe haha
            and if we compare these beautiful faces from an anthropological point of view?


            laughing

            Moreover, anti-Semitism is punishable there. )))


            Yes, I somehow tricked the young Iranians into question whether Iranian Jews celebrate Purim laughing
            He brought a lot of trouble into their young brains.
            Anyway... laughing

            It’s worth adding that if tomorrow some aliens wipe away Israel’s powder, then for Iran it will be a catastrophe cleaner than the war with the USA. Their whole strategy will collapse in one moment.
            So it goes.

            Israel needs Iran.
            1. -2
              11 May 2020 14: 42
              laughing
              And how Bukhara Jews look like Armenians ... You can’t imagine fellow By the way, about Purim - he had nothing to do with the Persians - this tale is written about the Babylonians, who were later bent by the Iranians, like.
              About the ideology of Iran one of the goals of the Islamic revolution is the destruction of the Jewish state. There are dozens of goals there, so you pay too much attention to such a modest Middle Eastern hole as Israel hi
              1. +1
                11 May 2020 15: 19
                About the ideology of Iran, one of the goals of the Islamic Revolution is the destruction of the Jewish state.


                These are words, but in reality they bought spare parts for Phantoms from you during the war with Iraq, mines, even the little things of any different thing ...

                Even now, Palestinians sometimes burn Iranian humanitarian aid, driven by hatred of Shiite dogs.
                If Israel does not become now, then the whole Arab world, including its allies, will immediately unite against Iran.
                Well, why would Lebanese need Iran at this moment?
                Israel is a counterbalance that prevents the "Arabs against Persians" scheme from developing. Without Israel, Iran will have all its plans head over heels.
                And words are just words, if you worked with the Iranians, you would know how much their words cost.
                1. -2
                  11 May 2020 16: 30
                  But in reality, the destruction of the Iraqi vigorous reactor in the 81st was a joint operation with the Persians, because Iran alone could not do anything there.
                  What are the Palestinians doing? laughing Where do you get such info ??
                  Iran - yes, it is gaining popularity points among Arabs and not only due to the tough anti-Israeli position, but Lebanon is not a good example - there no one surrendered to each other and the country is weak. And the opposition of the Gulf countries against Iran already exists, and Israel is on the side of the former.
                  Yes, I worked with Iranians - sincere people, but not obligatory laughing And the support of Hezbollah and Hamas is quite real
                  1. 0
                    11 May 2020 22: 57
                    What are the Palestinians doing? laughing Where do you get such info ??


                    Yes, from your own compatriots and take it. I even saw the photo.
                    Support is growing, here you are right, but even now it is far from complete and unconditional, and besides - how would it grow if it were not for you? That is the trick.

                    The Persian Empire cannot be reborn if it does not have a main enemy, and cannot exist if it is defeated.
                    So this is all dancing with tambourines.

                    And the support of Hezbollah and Hamas is quite real


                    You will survive. They could harm you much more, but they themselves do not want, at least Hezbollah.
                    And Hamas is too weak to really threaten Israel.
                2. 0
                  11 May 2020 20: 03
                  Quote: timokhin-aa
                  Even now, Palestinians sometimes burn Iranian humanitarian aid, driven by hatred of Shiite dogs.

                  three crusts of bread may have been burned, but Hamas accepts the cash smelling of Shiite dogs, give Gd to everyone.
          2. 0
            11 May 2020 15: 25
            Quote: Krasnodar
            Given the hundreds of thousands recorded by Ahperes and the Persians

            TEN!
            In October 2009, articles appeared in the world and Iranian media pointing to the Jewish roots of then Iranian President M. Ahmadinejad. And they argued that like many Jews who broke with Judaism and converted to other religions, M. Ahmadinejad intensely attacks world Jewry in order to hide its true origin.
        3. 0
          11 May 2020 13: 17
          Quote: timokhin-aa
          Do you know that Jews in Iran even have a quota in parliament? Two places like.

          And in Russia, what is the current quota? percent 80% ..
          1. -2
            11 May 2020 14: 44
            101% Soon we will cut you off, we will appoint the mayor of the ancient city of Kozelsk, previously the groom on Barbara Streisand)).
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        4. -3
          11 May 2020 14: 13
          Quote: timokhin-aa
          Do you know that Jews in Iran even have a quota in parliament? Two places like.

          One, but the number of Jews in Iran has long been counted.
          There are about 20 thousand
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            1. +1
              11 May 2020 14: 58
              God works in mysterious ways. My great-great-grandfather was a simple saddler in Krakow too. The fate of his grandson is still kept in the archives of Tomsk. He earned too much, many connections, influence, too much did not like the people's commissar.
              Ps. You yourself understood what this is all about.
          2. 0
            11 May 2020 15: 20
            These are those who are not hiding.
          3. 0
            11 May 2020 15: 30
            Quote: Arpad
            One, but the number of Jews in Iran has long been counted.
            There are about 20 thousand

            For a long time this is with a check of 85 thousand
            Today, about 10 thousand There are two Jewish schools in Tehran - one for boys - "Abrishami", and the other - for girls - "Ettefak", headed by the appointed by the Ministry of Education Muslim. And so, she is Jewish laughing
  8. +2
    11 May 2020 07: 15
    You can relate to the article in different ways, looking for errors from the author is also ..., according to the saying, I’ll find shit in your dupe. But in any case, the general idea is clear and intelligible! From the point of view of the average man (especially on the couch), one would have to gasp, but from the point of view of the mind, one must work ahead of the curve and live according to the situation! You will not find another; we are sitting in one boiler (still on the ground)!
    1. +1
      11 May 2020 15: 36
      Quote: lithium17
      From the point of view of the average man (especially on the couch), one would have to gasp, but from the point of view of the mind, one must work ahead of the curve and live according to the situation!

      I already wrote more than once, in this situation, Israel and Russia, using the card language, PLAY ONE HAND, it's just not visible from the sofa, the TV is in the way. interferes
  9. +2
    11 May 2020 07: 16
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Dmitry from Voronezh
    let Iran harness it too, because it has air defense systems, there are fighters, in the end, the IRGC fighters die in Syria. And we can help with weapons, though not for free.

    Iran has sunk its transporter during exercises. The missile didn’t get there, the whole crew died.

    An hour ago I read "an auxiliary vessel", already a transport worker, there were two dead, "the whole crew was already dead." What kind of anti-ship missile system should be in order to endanger the entire crew on a transport ship?
    1. -1
      11 May 2020 07: 32
      Quote: naburkin
      An hour ago I read "an auxiliary vessel", already a transport worker, there were two dead, "the whole crew was already dead." What kind of anti-ship missile system should be in order to endanger the entire crew on a transport ship?

      I read it in the tape.
      According to preliminary information, the entire crew of 40 people died as a result of the emergency. The incident occurred in the Gulf of Oman.

      Journalist Tagway Babak, in turn, reports that the destroyer launched an anti-ship missile into the Konarak military transport ship.
      https://lenta.ru/news/2020/05/11/iran_rocket/?utm_campaign=breaking-news&utm_medium=browser-notification&utm_source=push-notification
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  11. 0
    11 May 2020 08: 11
    The author, if not to say a rude word, is simply a fool
    1. -3
      11 May 2020 09: 30
      Quote: rotkiv04
      The author, if not to say a rude word, is simply a fool

      The article is frankly weak, replete with clichés from the times of the USSR.
      About articles of this level there is an old joke - where it appears
      Brings the Chukchi to the editors his novel, but
      editor after reading refuses
      publish this masterpiece:
      - You should read the classics - Pushkin, Turgenev, Tolstoy ...
      What the Chukchi answers:
      - Chukchi is not a reader, however! Chukchi - writer

      It is a pity that there is no similar editor.
  12. +3
    11 May 2020 08: 19
    Strange article.
    Israel bombing Syria, Russia does nothing!
    What should?
    Don't you think the absurdity of the statement itself?
    It might be more logical to build a phrase like this: Israel is bombing Syria, and Syria is not doing anything?
    Someone forgot for what reason we returned there?
    How long have Russian forces become Syrian?
    Or does anyone want so much to push Russia and Israel together?
  13. sav
    +3
    11 May 2020 08: 20
    Alexander, write better about ships.
  14. 0
    11 May 2020 08: 22
    Quote: Krasnodar
    A person has this view of what is happening - I liked the most about the hundred thousand hidden Iranian Jews recorded by Armenians and Persians)).

    Well, one hundred is already somehow too much ... laughing
    Slightly less.
    1. -2
      11 May 2020 09: 00
      Hello there! hi
      Glad to see)) I would write objectively - 97834. Including Ayatollah Khamenai and Maroyrosyan fellow
      1. 0
        11 May 2020 09: 09
        Mutually. Yes, the work is completely sucked ..
        1. -1
          11 May 2020 09: 19
          IT specialist, however)).
  15. -3
    11 May 2020 08: 35
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: naburkin
    An hour ago I read "an auxiliary vessel", already a transport worker, there were two dead, "the whole crew was already dead." What kind of anti-ship missile system should be in order to endanger the entire crew on a transport ship?

    I read it in the tape.
    According to preliminary information, the entire crew of 40 people died as a result of the emergency. The incident occurred in the Gulf of Oman.

    Journalist Tagway Babak, in turn, reports that the destroyer launched an anti-ship missile into the Konarak military transport ship.
    https://lenta.ru/news/2020/05/11/iran_rocket/?utm_campaign=breaking-news&utm_medium=browser-notification&utm_source=push-notification

    The original source of information is “the most truthful” of Al - Jazeera. ”There was no official data on losses from the Iranian Defense Ministry yet.
  16. +1
    11 May 2020 08: 36
    The article is a set of cliches, inconsistencies, assumptions, Soviet propaganda, and simply stupid things.
    The war between Russia and Israel ?! Russia is stronger than Israel! Russia is able to defeat Israel.
    And then - "the victory over Israel will bring nothing to Russia."
    Can anyone in their right mind seriously talk about a full-scale war between Israel and Russia ?!
    Russia is not an exception here either: the number of Jewish volunteers who are always ready to help the Israeli special services is huge in our country. In addition, there is another factor - the masses of Jews from Russia who left for Israel did not turn out to be from Russian citizenship. These people can enter the country at any time and no one can stop them. What will they do here is an open question. Quite a lot of young people from Israel, after doing military service there, then return to Russia for permanent residence and remain here. No one controls them, and this is impossible due to the limited resources of special services.



    Will there be pogroms?
    1. 0
      11 May 2020 10: 30
      life will show wink
  17. -1
    11 May 2020 09: 02
    The author raised a rather interesting topic, which in turn caused a stir in the Zionist swamp.
    In order to understand why there is a war in the SAR, you need to know that:
    -Syria, like Israel, owns the largest reserves of phosphates, the most valuable fertilizer in the Middle East and Western Asia, without which food supply to countries such as Iran, Turkey, and India is, in principle, impossible.
    -A significant part of Syrian phosphorites is controlled by Timchenko https://www.rbc.ru/business/27/06/2017/59512f209a79474bb460829d
    that’s the whole background of the conflict - Turkey, Iran and Syria are fighting to survive, the capitalists from Israel, the USA and the Russian Federation to make money. And to these very capitalists, they don’t give a damn about the lives of civilians, IDF and RF armed forces.
  18. -2
    11 May 2020 09: 04
    "Aviation proved to be bad - more experienced Israeli pilots routed the Soviet pilots."
    The author either prints faster than he thinks, or he inserted this phrase to reinforce his arguments - without even bothering to look at the data from a number of sources (which indicate the large losses of the Israeli air force precisely during the battles with aircraft produced by the USSR - but who sat at the helm is question)
    1. 0
      11 May 2020 23: 15
      So you most likely did not look at the sources. If they were, they would know that the main losses of Israeli aviation were from air defense systems, and not from enemy aircraft. And it doesn’t matter who was sitting there at the helm.
  19. +4
    11 May 2020 09: 04
    because
  20. +2
    11 May 2020 09: 08
    If we analyze the goals that each of the participants pursues, everything is quite natural:

    Assad is interested in power and the resolution of the civil (for Syria) war .. And as a means - the retention of territory and oil infrastructure.
    Russia and the United States are interested in oil, testing new weapons, reducing the number of barmalei.
    Iran, ostensibly in support of Syria, dogged with Israel, upholding religious principles.
    Israel is dogging with Iran, at the same time weakening its neighbor (a longtime enemy) .. plus testing new weapons ... And basically, as we say, "ponting" .. Ponty, I confess, are not cheap and are covered by a NATO treaty (although, why it's actually worth judging by Turkey, we know)
    Turkey pursues the possibility of expanding its territory, pretends to be oil and is dancing with the Kurds (at the same time collecting nishtyaks from Europe for refugees and other small services.)

    And so I look at this picture and see that in this situation (except for Assad, his opposition and the Kurds) everything suits everyone. Everyone "eats a piece of his pie" ... What is the agreement between Russia and Assad, as well as Russia and Iran, we do not know .. So maybe everything is going according to plan.
  21. 0
    11 May 2020 09: 21
    Quote: Krasnodar
    IT specialist, however)).

    Well, yes, percent 30 work. The virus only added problems, the infection fellow
    All people are like people, and even the virus will not allow us to die peacefully.
    Guys are sitting in a dressing gown 75 percent of the gross get on vacation ... Something like this. bully
    1. -4
      11 May 2020 09: 39
      Quote: Shahno
      Guys are sitting in a bathrobe 75 percent of the gross get on vacation

      Who pulls on and go.
      We had 80% in a bathrobe.
      Now they are slowly returning.
    2. -1
      11 May 2020 09: 43
      It’s good that she is - work))
      I have a quarter of the volume, 1/20 of the income laughing
      1. -4
        11 May 2020 10: 06
        Quote: Krasnodar
        It’s good that she is - work))
        I have a quarter of the volume, 1/20 of the income laughing

        Well, without electricity it’s difficult.
        1. -2
          11 May 2020 12: 20
          And when you work for yourself, dear, it’s even harder lol
      2. -3
        11 May 2020 13: 40
        Quote: Krasnodar
        It’s good that she is - work))
        I have a quarter of the volume, 1/20 of the income laughing

        Everything will be ok - food and health are always in price
        1. -2
          11 May 2020 13: 42
          And permissions - but health with permissions is now deep in Tahat-Takhatinsky and Tahatny fellow
  22. +1
    11 May 2020 09: 25
    The Russian Aerospace Forces seem to have been officially called to Syria. Okay. And the Iranian and pro-Iranian structures were called by Assad or they themselves came to "help"? As part of the creation of the "Shiite Crescent" in the territories of the adjacent states, from Iran, through Iraq, Syria and to Lebanon. Yes, Israeli aviation strikes are carried out on the territory of Syria, but on Iranian targets (volunteers from the IRGC are the same religious fanatics and terrorists, as are the bandits from the IS banned in Russia and other countries) and on targets of the pro-Iranian Shiite hezbollah, which openly advocates the destruction of Israel
    1. +2
      11 May 2020 11: 14
      And the Iranian and pro-Iranian structures were called by Assad or they themselves came to "help"?


      Assad were called and Assad would not have survived our intervention without them, and we would not have escaped only with aviation; we would have had to infantry catch up with a couple of divisions at least.
  23. -1
    11 May 2020 09: 26
    Quote: Shahno
    Quote: Krasnodar
    IT specialist, however)).

    Well, yes, percent 30 work. The virus only added problems, the infection fellow
    All people are like people, and even the virus will not allow us to die peacefully.
    Guys are sitting in a dressing gown 75 percent of the gross get on vacation ... Something like this. bully

    Ps. For our Russian colleagues - "robe" vacation at their own expense .. just do not ask who pays for it laughing
  24. +9
    11 May 2020 10: 14
    Around this dispute, real covens are organized by Russian-speaking Israelis, confusing the carefully prepared raids of individual high-tech aircraft with precision weapons against the small forces of an enemy located literally in the previous era (not about the Russian Federation) with a real big war, at least like the last war in Lebanon, where the Israeli the army showed itself, to put it mildly, it is doubtful about what in Israel for some reason they began to forget.

    The Russian-speaking Israeli "arranging a Sabbath here, apparently, it's me. Thank you for your kind words. hi

    In Israel, nothing is forgotten, and on the contrary, they remember it very well. They remember what Hezbollah did. Lebanon cannot regain consciousness to this day. The "small forces" mentioned here are trying to supply Hezbollah with high-tech and high-precision weapons, but Israel does not need this at all.
    The Russian Federation brought its troops for 5000 km to beat the bandits which tomorrow, quite possibly, could reach its borders. So Israel, to engage in their own security under their own windows - Gd himself ordered! He will choose the funds for himself, excuse me.
    By the way, I can imagine what would happen here with the same bandits, if we did not take Israel from the Syrians, at one time, the Golan.

    I have repeatedly met allegations that the Israelis won in their wars with the Arabs not because they fought well, but only because the Arabs fought badly.
    So, the Israelis are winning because dad and son have been going to the same military unit for years for training camps, because Mom was with dad if not a platoon commander, then an instructor in hand-to-hand combat.
    Israel has neither the Urals, nor Siberia.
    He has nowhere to evacuate the population and industry.
    Behind is not the Capital, but the sea.
    Israel, the plague of our neighbors, instead of taking care of their citizens, they have been trying to dump 70 years into this sea. For years, the USSR helped them in this.
    But where is that USSR?

    In less than 10 years, the Marshall Plan pulled from the ruins of the devastated and devastated WW2 Europe, which in 1945 roamed 50 million refugees. More than five (!) Marshall Plans have already been invested in the so-called "Palestinians", and they continue to ride donkeys, curse Israel, blaming it for all their troubles, and again and again try to dump it into the sea with the money of good sponsors.

    Reading this kind of articles, I am constantly amazed: to consider the destruction of Israel in all seriousness? Destroy a country with a stable and dynamically developing economy, low inflation, high GDP and per capita income, long life expectancy, excellent medicine, successful high-tech, powerful military-industrial complex and a hundred-billion-dollar exports? For what? So that Israel does not "undermine the reputation of the Russian Federation as a" security provider ""?

    Moreover, the narrative in Russia went on a clear shift.
    The voynushka, which seemed fast and victorious, dragged on for 5 years, considerable bucks flew away, which already have something to use. Assad’s bickering is going on at the court; he doesn’t justify the hopes of political Russia, with all the consequences. Iran, Russia is only a hindrance, Hezbollah is complete scumbag-terrorists, who at one time killed Russian diplomats ... Who will fit in for them today?

    This article will be played by the nasty service for the editorial staff of the VO; take an interest in who this publication is consistent with Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Attribution
    "THE OPINION OF THE EDITORS OF THE" MILITARY REVIEW "MAY NOT COINCE WITH THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE AUTHORS OF THE PUBLICATIONS"
    - a good thing and would help a lot if this publication was placed in the "Opinion" section. Yes, here, the author thinks so, but our opinion may not coincide. However, this is the "Analytics" section and the article is practically turning into an editorial. Here and opinion may coincide. Is it necessary for someone who is already experiencing not the best times? hi
  25. +1
    11 May 2020 10: 18
    when the pogroms)? a joke, an article from the category of who is stronger than an elephant or a whale)
  26. -3
    11 May 2020 10: 27
    the Israelis in their raids planes will begin to fall.

    Here is the recipe. They do not understand another language.
  27. -4
    11 May 2020 10: 46
    The incident, as usual, caused waves of indignation on the part of the Russian public, directed mainly at the Russian authorities, which cannot protect the state under protection - Syria, from impudent Israeli attacks.

    And what's the point, now here "comrades from Israel" will be sneering and then the cleaning of the site will start again ...
    It is useless to write something, if only to praise the Jews, how daring and fearless they are ... and so on. Many people in the world are afraid of Israel not in military terms, but in financial and other harassment in the "world media" .. Russia's rating and respect on the BV is sharply falling .. We see sold out ..
    So at heart disgusting men .. angry Surely no one can punish them for such robber air strikes from the quiet?
    1. +1
      11 May 2020 11: 13
      Quote: Birch
      So at heart the men are vile .. Can nobody really punish them, for such robber airstrikes from the quiet?

      Everything has its time wink in the meantime, watch the clip: Lebanon 2006 Russian RPGs against Israeli tanks. We managed to knock down 48 tanks. In OK and in contact, he is, but on YouTube, the Jews were already podsutsya and in the original voice acting it was deleted ....
      1. -3
        11 May 2020 12: 22
        Tse peremoga)).
      2. 0
        12 May 2020 08: 19
        where there 48. knocked out 666 dastardly Israeli tanks. "while both Russian pilots burned out"
        1. 0
          12 May 2020 13: 49
          no, it wasn't like that wink It is found on a deserted road by a Syrian and Israeli tank.

          There are many places, but nobody wants to move out. Hatches open and tank commanders begin to swear. The Israelites haughtily declares:

          - "Get out of the way! There's an American instructor in my car!"

          The Syrian answered him:

          - "Fuck x @ y!", Leans into the hatch and asks: - "Did I say correctly?"
      3. +3
        12 May 2020 12: 34
        Quote: Pytnik
        Lebanon 2006 Russian RPGs against Israeli tanks Managed to knock down 48 tanks.

        Yes, a very "interesting" clip.
        Only he is called: "Lebanon 2019 Russian RPGs against Israeli tanks Managed to knock out 48
        tanks "We started with a lie and finished it.
        YOU FOR EDUCATION.
        The war was started by Hezbollah, and there are always victims in the war, but the outcome is important.
        On the very first day of the offensive, the IDF advanced 6-8 km deep into Lebanon. August 3 sheikh Nasrallah, for the first time since the start of the war, offered Israel a truce if the bombing would be stopped, but Tel Aviv ignored this initiative.
        Missile strikes were carried out in the area where the headquarters of the Hezbollah control system and other buildings were located.

        The head of Hezbollah, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, admitted after the end of hostilities, that he would not give orders to seize Israeli soldiers if he assumed that this decision would lead to a large-scale war in Lebanon. “The experience of our relations with Israel, our confrontation since 1982 did not imply such a development of the situation,” he said in September 2006.
        14 years have passed since then, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah lives in an underground bunker, remembering to take into account all his predecessors. And the inhabitants of Israel in their homes. This is the result of the war.
        1. 0
          12 May 2020 13: 46
          Tse peremoga wink I'm already tired of listening to the underground bunker wink It's time to change the training manual "mamada", it does not act like laughing
          1. +1
            12 May 2020 14: 31
            Quote: Pytnik
            it's time to change the training manual "mamada"

            Can you read?
            To help.

            "The war was started by Hizbalah, and there are always casualties in the war, but the outcome is important."
            And then count how many aerospace forces have lost aircraft in Syria, where the "bearded" have no air force and no air defense.
            And this is what the USSR supplied to its friends, and now it is in the museums of Israel.




            Learned?
            Now relax.
            1. -1
              12 May 2020 16: 48
              lost and lost, we retreated to Moscow in 41, and the outcome is known, by the way, the Jews were saved, otherwise you would smoke the stoves of the Adventists and other camps, so that I can upload pictures of wrecked Jewish tanks and downed planes, I’m once again for those who thinks badly, my opinion about you will not change, in 2006 Hezbollah won !!! so relax yourself, but carefully, otherwise you can ..... wink lol
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              2. +3
                12 May 2020 19: 25
                Quote: Pytnik
                lost and lost, we retreated to Moscow in 41, and the result is known

                And I’m writing about the same THIRD time
                "The war was started by Hizbalah, and there is always VICTIMS but important VERDICT."
                Quote: Pytnik
                By the way, the Jews also saved you

                The only country that remembers TODAY IS ISRAEL

                177 Jews received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, which puts them in 4th place after the Russians (7998 people); Ukrainians (2021 people) and Belarusians (299 people),
                Twice Heroes of the Soviet Union 4 people
                This is again for those who have a poor mind.
                REMEMBER ISRAEL NOBODY AND NOT WHEN YOU DO NOT WIN AND DO NOT WIN!
                And they just whine that they would return what they took to defeat the enemy!
                1. 0
                  12 May 2020 21: 49
                  Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                  177 Jews received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, which puts them in 4th place after the Russians (7998 people

                  There is nothing to say, I respect ....
                  Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                  AND DO NOT WIN!
                  who knows what will be there in the future ....
                  Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                  And they just whine that they would return what they took to defeat the enemy!

                  but your territories are your business and I personally think that it would be better if my country invested money in Cuba ..... and the Middle East is a snake ball and there is nothing to do there, in the end, the troops of your allies are at our borders, and here from the shores of the Mediterranean Sea to the United States much further than, for example, from Cuba
                  1. 0
                    12 May 2020 23: 07
                    Quote: Pytnik
                    from the shores of the Mediterranean Sea to the United States much further than, for example, from Cuba

                    Have a good trip!
            2. +1
              12 May 2020 17: 10



              there are such photos
    2. -4
      11 May 2020 13: 43
      Quote: Birch
      The incident, as usual, caused waves of indignation on the part of the Russian public, directed mainly at the Russian authorities, which cannot protect the state under protection - Syria, from impudent Israeli attacks.

      And what's the point, now here "comrades from Israel" will be sneering and then the cleaning of the site will start again ...
      It is useless to write something, if only to praise the Jews, how daring and fearless they are ... and so on. Many people in the world are afraid of Israel not in military terms, but in financial and other harassment in the "world media" .. Russia's rating and respect on the BV is sharply falling .. We see sold out ..
      So at heart disgusting men .. angry Surely no one can punish them for such robber air strikes from the quiet?

      And hello again, Vitaly.
    3. +1
      11 May 2020 23: 31
      Why did it become? Sign up to volunteer with the CAA. There he strained with "cannon fodder" to such an extent that the Iranians and Hezbollah were invited. And then you, all in white ...
  28. +1
    11 May 2020 10: 53
    Overall, healthy ...
  29. 0
    11 May 2020 11: 03
    Familiar style, familiar handwriting. We play here, we do not play here. Then I wrapped the fish. Our Crimea, and Donbass is Ukraine. We are at war with ISIS, and we are friends with Israel. Everywhere the same thing. There is nothing to be surprised.
    1. 0
      11 May 2020 11: 15
      This is the way the real world works, to do nothing.
      1. -3
        11 May 2020 11: 53
        Quote: timokhin-aa
        This is the way the real world works, to do nothing.

        I don’t agree with you .. So the world is built so far, but Russia knows how to change it .. Or recall how this all happens?
        1. -4
          11 May 2020 14: 18
          Quote: Birch
          Quote: timokhin-aa
          This is the way the real world works, to do nothing.

          I do not agree with you .. So the world is built so far, and Russia knows how to change it.


          Quote: timokhin-aa
          This is from the series "written on the fence"
  30. 0
    11 May 2020 11: 06
    There was information that Assad for 3 billion dollars agreed with the UAE to resume the offensive in Idlib .. And the Russian leadership did not like it .. Maybe they want to indicate Assad his place in this way?
    1. +4
      11 May 2020 11: 15
      This is from a series of "written on the fence" information.
      1. 0
        11 May 2020 11: 19
        Quote: timokhin-aa
        This is from a series of "written on the fence" information.

        Well, I don’t know on the fence or on the asphalt .. The United Arab Emirates was beneficial to have a clash in Idlib ... because in Libya now, their ward’s affairs are worse than ever ..
        And if you put everything aside, While Iran and Hezbollah are there, Israel will strike ... This 2x2 = 4 ..
        1. -1
          11 May 2020 11: 41
          This was an offer Assad refused
          1. +1
            11 May 2020 11: 54
            Quote: Kronos
            This was an offer Assad refused

            Well, if you refused, then you’ll have to endure ... Because in the current situation of Syria, to go to an open confrontation with Israel is suicide ... Syria will simply be rolled into asphalt ..
          2. 0
            11 May 2020 11: 56
            Quote: Kronos
            This was an offer Assad refused

            Assad’s proposals, like Putin’s, are many tempting ones .. But this all means betrayal of his people and his country .. hi So they hammer for refusals, maliciously smiling, knowing that there will be no real answer.
            Well nothing
            1. -2
              11 May 2020 12: 06
              Assad understands, and Putin regularly fulfills the will of the ruling class of oligarchs
              1. -1
                11 May 2020 12: 34
                Quote: Kronos
                Assad understands, and Putin regularly fulfills the will of the ruling class of oligarchs

                Send troops to Syria? I wonder what kind of oligarch so eagerly wanted us to trample against Israel and the United States in the BV .. ???? name one?
  31. +4
    11 May 2020 12: 11
    Stop blowing fairy tales into the ears of people !!! It's time to admit - 1). Russia and Syria do not have technical capabilities, there are no such missile defense and air defense systems in Syria that would be able to repel Israeli missiles and planning bombs with 100% defeat. (It doesn’t matter how many attacking missiles are shot down by air defense forces, if at least one penetrates and hits the target - then the attack won, the defense lost). 2). Russia and Syria do not have the political will to stop Israeli air strikes and missile attacks on Syrian territory, since this requires at least destroying carriers - Israeli attack planes both in the sky (no matter whose) and at the airfields. THAT is to step into a full-fledged military conflict. The elite in Russia does not want to quarrel so seriously with Israel. 3). The PR supply of S-300 to Syria after the tragic death of the IL-20 crew looks ridiculous and shameful - no one will use these systems against Israel. And all those deliveries were just an attempt at a good mine with a bad game. And do not tell that the Iranians are dying, but this does not concern us. So calm down and stop whining about Israel’s attacks - we ourselves did everything to make him feel impunity.
    1. 0
      11 May 2020 14: 13
      This is not always.
  32. +3
    11 May 2020 12: 36
    It turns out that Israel can slowly jackal up in the territory of a neighboring state, it is not beneficial for anyone to conflict with Israel. However, Russia, Syria, Iran cannot behave this way in Israel, not competently. And they cannot defend themselves, not competently. It is necessary to adapt to Israel, to adapt. Strange article logic, right?
    1. -1
      11 May 2020 14: 14
      Suggest your option, which would not increase our losses in people and money.
      1. +3
        11 May 2020 16: 15
        The only option is to negotiate with Iran and Hesbollah to leave Syria. Then Israel will have no excuse for striking. But Iran will not do this. They have their own war with Israel. They do not enter into a direct conflict, but the showdown is repaired through foreign territory. So Syria must either be silent in a rag or gather strength and fight with Israel. Or with Iran. And this and that is not real. Because this bombing will continue, and no one will shoot down Israeli planes.
        1. 0
          11 May 2020 23: 00
          And this and that is not real. Because this bombing will continue, and no one will shoot down Israeli planes.


          They have already been shot down if you are not in the know
          1. +1
            13 May 2020 00: 09
            I know. One. And after that there were just three raids. And the very S-200 that launched the rocket on the F-16 was razed to the ground too. And if you are not in the know, it has been a very long time. After that, not a single Israeli plane was injured. Although there were already hundreds of raids.
  33. -2
    11 May 2020 12: 36
    you need to shoot down a couple of planes and then the raids will stop
    1. -3
      11 May 2020 12: 47
      take an example from Iran. the American Navy, they scared great. just one rocket.
      1. -1
        11 May 2020 14: 19
        Quote: sidoroff
        take an example from Iran. the American Navy, they scared great. just one rocket.

        Sinking your ship?
        1. 0
          11 May 2020 20: 57
          if it’s possible they did this with their own boat, then what can they do with the enemy AUG? to smithereens.
          By the way, when the Syrians Il-20 failed (and I doubt very much that by mistake), Hale Avir moderated his activity for a couple of months
          Syria. so that ..
        2. 0
          11 May 2020 21: 44
          That's right, Alexander! Scared! Everyone scattered to the sides of these guys to a safe distance, while these cranks mistakenly didn’t drown anyone yet. Beat your own - aliens will be scared! ... Well, they turned a useful thing - exercises in conditions close to military ones. Rescue work! Crash parties have trained. launcher calculations showed excellent training! Class!
      2. 0
        11 May 2020 15: 41
        This is how shooting down a civilian plane and shooting down your own ship?
    2. -3
      11 May 2020 14: 17
      Israel recognized one downed plane, the F-16.
      But in fact, some managed to reach Israel and then die in the hospital from burns. They wrote off them to a fire on board an aircraft, such as a non-combat incident.
      And so, the raids stopped? Do not underestimate them, with clumsy methods you can only escalate to irreversible consequences and nothing more.
      So far, they have been working out template schemes of operations, and we are studying them. Until the right moment comes to besiege all this, it will be so.
      Now that Assad has partly occupied by the Americans, and partly by Turkey, the moment is inappropriate.
      1. +1
        12 May 2020 08: 23
        can you please date, name of pilot and hospital where did this happen? something tells me that nothing of this will happen, and they will send me to google.
  34. 0
    11 May 2020 12: 43
    We must make sure that we are feared. Suppressed some sort of missile point, shot down some sort of plane. And they apologized. They say that a mistake has come out. They will begin to fear that we still will not do it by mistake. In general, the head after the holiday does not think well.
  35. +2
    11 May 2020 12: 45
    girl's problem. can not decide what is more pleasant for pride - "can, but does not want or
    wants, but can! "
  36. +1
    11 May 2020 13: 51
    In the meantime, we should not pay particular attention to minor Israeli mischief, we just need not to substitute, as happened with the IL-20. All the same, these small injections do not fundamentally solve anything for anyone.


    A very controversial conclusion, and then our people die, is that small injections?
  37. +3
    11 May 2020 13: 52
    When will the Israeli attacks on Syria stop?
    The answer to the surface: when Iran leaves Syria. Actually, what does he need at all. Why did he forget a thousand kilometers from his borders?
    1. -2
      11 May 2020 14: 18
      Do not write nonsense and do not read Israeli newspapers before dinner.
      1. +2
        11 May 2020 21: 40
        Really! How did he sort of dare to revive the wise Sasha? I dared to express my opinion! Offended the boy! He wrote nonsense, having read the Hebrew or Hebrew newspapers before dinner! After all, these are the most popular newspapers and languages ​​in Russia. Sasha Timokhin reads them only after lunch!
  38. +1
    11 May 2020 14: 15
    The fact that the Russian Federation does not directly respond to the destruction of the objects of pro-Iranian forces shows, not at all, its weakness, but wisdom and maturity, as befits a serious state.

    Of course, between Russia and Israel there has long been a number of agreements that are constantly being updated, added are changed, but not violated by any of the parties, and rightly so. The situation requires it. A direct line of communication between the RF Armed Forces in Syria and our defense ministry has been established since the first days of October 2015 and works well. The air corridors over the north of Israel for the U-turns of VKS planes are verified. These are the affairs of military experts and politicians. This does not cause any damage to the prestige of Russia.

    The prestige of the Russian Federation will be damaged by questions that, over time, will certainly be asked to it by the international community. Questions about where the prisoners are? For five years of stay in Syria, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, prisoners should have been. What is the matter with them? What is their fate? Where are they located? Who feeds them, treats them? Had they not been hid there in unison in mass graves?
    If there are no clear answers, and excuses begin, like, it's not our business, it's all the Syrians there, or maybe some other bandits tried, then new tricky questions will appear: what was your military police doing there? and the National Guard?
    Like, you were there, didn’t you see anything? Why not prevented?
    And historical examples are available.
    Remember how in 1982, Christian phalangists crushed 1500 Muslims into cabbage in Sabra and Chatill? And how was Ariel Sharon personally charged? Like, he could have prevented the massacre, and not be inactive ...

    In the case of captive bandits from a bunch of different bandyuk troops, the bill can go to thousands, or even tens of thousands ... That’s what you need to think about now. hi
    1. +2
      11 May 2020 14: 38
      // The fact that the Russian Federation does not directly respond to the destruction of the objects of pro-Iranian forces shows, not at all, its weakness, but wisdom and maturity, as befits a serious state.

      Of course, between Russia and Israel there has long been a number of agreements that are constantly being updated, added are changed, but not violated by any of the parties, and rightly so. The situation requires it. //
      This, in principle, is the most obvious answer to all the questions in the article ..
      And at the expense of the murdered Islamists, well, you understand that all interested political forces will meet, and ... everything will be covered in darkness for another 25 years.
      1. -2
        11 May 2020 15: 26
        Since it is as if the military police are watching that no one multiplies surrendered militants by zero. Specialist. there’s even a certificate of a surrendered action movie. So there are no prisoners because they were released from their homes.
        But Muharabat is there at a low start, as soon as we leave, these people are finished.
        What to do with this is not clear. So far, in fact, Russia has been protecting the surrendered militants, but we cannot do this forever.
  39. +1
    11 May 2020 15: 20
    Quote: timokhin-aa
    Holding a bunch of people, mostly a lot of able-bodied reservists, constantly under arms, paying each of them a monthly salary from the place of work))


    Well, until the peace with Saddat, this remained so, and until 1967 too.

    Do not get it wrong. I am not against Israel.
    But we "cover" Assad, and sooner or later your injections will have to be stopped. It's just no options.

    I could not resist. You know who protects us. Poor cow laughing laughing
    Ps. Well ask yourself a question. At the highest official level, it was declared: "The security of the State of Israel is the first priority in the geopolitical situation in the BV."
    In one voice, representatives of the United States and the Russian Federation.
  40. +2
    11 May 2020 15: 50
    The article examines an attempt to present the Jewish nation as such a God-chosen people, close to a stunning unity, regardless of citizenship, religion, property qualification, education and personal outlook and worldview of an individual. Millions of Jews in the Russian Federation are mentioned as the fifth column in the event of a conflict of countries, without mentioning the possibilities of the same millions from the USSR in the country of Israel. Already they are writing about four Ukrainian fronts (supposedly equipped with some spiky haremans); because the number of dead Ukrainians is comparable in number to the losses of the Jewish people in WWII; obviously the appearance of a story about breakthrough cases with l / s in vests and pats. The policy of the state of Israel impresses me with consistency and straightforwardness: the houses of terrorists to be demolished, the search for Nazi criminals to the grave, unprincipled in achieving their goals. At the same time, Jewish financial bigwigs sponsored the Fuhrer at one time, and the Jewish presidents of modern Ukraine glorify Bandera and Shukhevych. If you delve into everyday life, then it’s not for me to tell you jokes and sayings about individual representatives.
  41. +2
    11 May 2020 17: 16
    "... Israel suffered losses. Such, which it did not have before, dozens of cars in a matter of days. As a result, having weighed all the pros and cons, the Israelis quietly retreated. Between the last Israeli plane that fell and the signing of the armistice by the parties" less than three weeks. "The author contradicts himself. In Egypt," they quietly retreated, "and in Syria," they shouldn't be substituted. "The USSR was more honest, defended the allies, and pesters against the current situation. The author is trying to explain something, but clumsily. a demonstration of strength and decisiveness. Lived that such mongrels as the Balts or the Czechs humiliate, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is conducting a balanced policy. Ugh!
  42. -4
    11 May 2020 18: 01
    When will the Israeli attacks on Syria stop?
    When the hegemon dies.
    ---
    Israel is not a sovereign state, are subordinate to the United States.
    In fact, the United States has appointed Israel as the "overseer" for the BV.
    Although Turkey very much counted on this role, but the geldings decided - Israel.
    Which, at first glance, is strange. The Turks, the warlike people, would have dealt with this function much better than Israel.
    Why, then, Israel? After all, by their mentality, Jews are not warriors?
    That is why the choice was in favor of Israel. For the Turks would quickly get out of hand and pursue an independent policy (read: they would not be manageable).
    ---
    Another thing is Israel, they can’t fight (the exception is the generation of those who fought during the Second World War, well, maybe their children), surrounded by enemies.
    Always need American help.
    It is worth Israel to show independence, at whose order someone finances Hamas, followed by shelling of Israel, the latter raises aircraft and destroys Palestinian settlements. The UN adopts a resolution condemning Israel, the US vetoed. Showing Israel who holds his leash.
    ---
    The geldings needed to "set fire" the BV, for this they created ISIS, but they were blown away under the blows of Russia, Syria and Iran.
    They tried to throw the Kurds into the heat, the Kurds did not go into the heat, and the Turks expressed their "fi" to the geldings.
    The choice among the geldings was not great: either provoke Turkey into hell, or Israel.
    ---
    That's just in the heat no one wants.
    But for the hegemon, they periodically strain the situation, and then roll back.
    Like, hegemon was bungled and not climbed into the hell.
    ---
    The question is how long the hegemon will endure this. The more stable the situation in Syria becomes, the more hegemon will kick Israel.
    Either Israel will perish, or the hegemon will merge. bully
    1. +1
      12 May 2020 00: 58
      Write novels to you wassat
      1. 0
        12 May 2020 00: 59
        Or maybe Russia will break up ?????
  43. +1
    11 May 2020 18: 53
    Quote: 1976AG
    If everything is measured in rubles, then there was no need to come there at all, but since we undertook to defend Syria, we must be consistent. The world should know that if Russia said that it would protect, it would do it

    Not if measured in rubles, but we are forced to measure in rubles. For such help is very expensive for us. EMNIP the first year of our stay there - about 54-55 billion rubles. And one more question.
    And we said that we were going to defend Syria? In fact, before the introduction of our contingent, the Foreign Ministry said that the task of our contingent is to help Syria in the fight against ISIS, but not help in dismantling Syria with its neighbors. That is, Syria will have to deal with Israel itself, without our help, because even in the agreement with Syria a military option of assistance is not provided .... And with ISIS, we fulfill our obligations ...

    Quote: 1976AG
    What other agreements do you need? This is COMPLETELY enough.

    Not needed? The basis of such agreements (invitations) - concluded agreements. But the agreement with Syria military assistance to her troops DOES NOT

    Quote: 1976AG
    And can you name a document that, without the sanction of the UN Security Council, entitles one state to strike at another?

    Israel and Syria are at war. And with this state of sanctions, the UN Security Council is not required
    1. +1
      12 May 2020 01: 35
      To water Syria, and definitely without NATO soldiers
  44. -1
    11 May 2020 19: 27
    After September
  45. 0
    11 May 2020 19: 45
    Wow, how much is written. Barely mastered.
    There used to be battles - Kursk,
    Battle of Stalingrad. Translated into checkers:
    Opponents exhibit in full
    and chopped to the last checkers. Next put up
    reserve kit and again to the last checkers.
    As a result, one has only two, and the other one
    in a stalemate, the curtain.
    And now - the opponents put out a set of checkers,
    one makes two lightning fast coups and beats two
    checkers. Another immediately rolls off the battlefield. Checkers
    the winners who didn’t take part in the fight are like that
    demonstration. Oh yes, there are still barmaleys with machine guns in places.
    And with them such a scheme. Got a bunch of reptiles in a bunch,
    smoked - scorching all living things. Two attack aircraft take off
    as they get bogged down - half of the barmaley in pieces, half out of the blue.
    And even worse - they ask for a "green" corridor - they are already good.
  46. 0
    11 May 2020 20: 32
    Of course, even if there is a war between Russia and Israel, the use of Israeli nuclear weapons is unlikely.
    Why?
  47. +2
    11 May 2020 21: 33
    "It is impossible to solve this problem in one way or another. At the same time, an individual Jew may be completely loyal to the country of residence, he can work for it, he can fight for it, but in a critical situation of choice, loyalty to Israel as a Jewish state may outweigh loyalty to the country of residence. Although sometimes it does not outweigh. "- Amateur admiral Mr. Timokhin acts as an expert on Syria and as a Jewish scholar !!! So does the naval-aviation-Laos beginning overpower in Timokhin or does it outweigh? But I must say that the final conclusion, as the opinion of Mr. Timokhin himself, is quite adequate "In the meantime, we should not pay special attention to petty Israeli mischief, we just need not to substitute ourselves." Yet theoretical constructions are just another delirium.
  48. 0
    11 May 2020 22: 33
    Nonsense! Russia will never dare to go to war with Israel! Of course, Russia will be able to sweep away Israel with missiles! But then the nuclear warheads of Jericho will be torn on the streets of Russian million-plus cities! The reckoning of Russia for the death of Israel will be the cessation of Russian history! Dot. In a conventional war on such a remote theater of operations, Russia will lose with a bang! Hmeimim will be done in an hour,
    Yes, and all airfields and ports in Syria will smash. Iran will not dare either. How many power plants are there? Ten? Twenty? So many rockets are needed to lower them into the Stone Age for many years!
    1. 0
      11 May 2020 23: 03
      Do not walk in the heat with your head uncovered, drink more water, take care of yourself.
      1. +1
        12 May 2020 01: 28
        Head must think soldier
  49. +1
    11 May 2020 23: 06
    Israeli air strikes on Syria will stop only when Israeli planes begin to be shot down in Syria.
    1. 0
      12 May 2020 01: 31
      It will not happen
  50. 0
    12 May 2020 00: 56
    When you get home with your tail tight, the warriors are blinnnn !!!!
  51. -2
    12 May 2020 04: 16
    You can't imagine more stupid nonsense. The author of the article appears to be the same Israeli agent described in the article. Like, we are so scary that you better not touch us and don’t stop us from creating any chaos that we want to create. What the hell does this have to do with some kind of big war or nuclear weapons? Israel is equally unprofitable with Russia, neither one nor the other - in any case, in this case it will turn into a flat, rolled out platform - since its territory is very limited, to put it mildly. For this, Russia doesn’t even need to bother with troops - it has ballistic missiles. Why should Russia, which, in view of its ability to grind into dust any country that threatens it, suddenly be afraid of Israel and allow it to humiliate itself so openly? Or is Russia simply being invited on principle to be such an outright idiot that, in principle, anyone should be able to humiliate him? But you won’t live long with this approach: if you don’t fight back, they just stupidly eat you up - they advance until you give a tough rebuff. And if it doesn’t follow, then they will simply devour it altogether. And if Israel is allowed to become impudent, it will, of course, continue to become impudent. In the end, the downing of an Il-20 with military personnel will seem like just an innocent prank. Does Israel have no pressure points that Russia can put pressure on in response to its unfriendly steps? It’s easy: around him are those whom he himself has made his enemies, and Russia has the opportunity to influence their policy towards Israel in such a way that the final cost of such things for him will simply increase dramatically. So in the end he will forget about the war with Russia - who the hell needs to fight with him directly - this is not a problem of that scale. It’s just that those things that he allows himself now may become, with a certain response from Russia, completely unprofitable for him - and Russia simply needs not to stupidly humiliate himself, but to inform Israel that these things will be undertaken, and to undertake them if he is kind he won't take the advice.
  52. kig
    +2
    12 May 2020 05: 52
    Have we made a commitment to fully protect Syria from all sides and from all threats? Officially, our troops help in the fight against the terrorist groups Al-Qaeda, Islamic State and Jabhat al-Nusra, so Israel does not fit in there. So should we be concerned about Israeli air strikes, especially since they are carried out from the territory of other states? We did everything we could. What we still lack is a war with Israel.
  53. +1
    12 May 2020 08: 53
    >And the point here is not about ultra-precise missiles and bombs, which in high-intensity conflicts tend to end within a week or two
    Don’t tell the Americans this, otherwise the poor air force has all switched to them
  54. 0
    12 May 2020 09: 03
    Aviation proved to be bad - more experienced Israeli pilots defeated Soviet pilots.


    Who did they defeat there? Organized an ambush of 40 vehicles and shot down 4 MiG-21s?
  55. +1
    12 May 2020 09: 26
    Russia has one feature that makes it a state, unlike Ukraine or the Grand Duchy of Rygorychev; it never thinks like a 6-year-old child who did a dirty trick and finds it funny. That is, Russia always fulfills the agreement, and if it fights, it will either start, and then no offense, no matter how many troops are involved, but there will be no “here I fight, here I don’t fight, but here I trade at all.” At the same time, our country is also nervous after the Second World War, and the Europeans may well receive warning nuclear strikes on their capitals in the event of even a small conflict. In the 45th they were once regretted, since they were forgotten, they need to be redisplayed, otherwise why waste huge resources on all these missiles with warheads.

    Israel has now turned from a state into a hysterical girl who, due to impunity and the belief that everyone owes her, constantly stomps her feet and shouts: “Mom buy it!!!” While they are not touching her, then, when Idlib is cleared, and there is an opportunity to look closely in her direction, at the same time Iran will remember about the terrorist attacks on its reactors, she will get scared, and will begin to freak out even more. And the question will arise, how to even talk to this girl? And the problem will be that, unlike the weak remnants of the Ukrainian SSR, the psychotic girl alone has hundreds of 2 combat aircraft.
  56. +2
    12 May 2020 14: 46
    When will the Israeli attacks on Syria stop?

    When we take Assad by the bootstraps and come to the negotiating table with the Israelis to sign a peace treaty.

    Until it's not too late...
  57. +1
    12 May 2020 15: 31
    dual citizenship is a problem (!)
    espionage for another state i.e. treason for the sake of another homeland Israel
    So Israel also suffers from this (!)
  58. +1
    12 May 2020 15: 41
    Quote: flicker
    When will the Israeli attacks on Syria stop?
    When the hegemon dies.
    ---
    Israel is not a sovereign state, are subordinate to the United States.
    In fact, the United States has appointed Israel as the "overseer" for the BV.
    Although Turkey very much counted on this role, but the geldings decided - Israel.
    Which, at first glance, is strange. The Turks, the warlike people, would have dealt with this function much better than Israel.
    Why, then, Israel? After all, by their mentality, Jews are not warriors?
    That is why the choice was in favor of Israel. For the Turks would quickly get out of hand and pursue an independent policy (read: they would not be manageable).
    ---
    Another thing is Israel, they can’t fight (the exception is the generation of those who fought during the Second World War, well, maybe their children), surrounded by enemies.
    Always need American help.
    It is worth Israel to show independence, at whose order someone finances Hamas, followed by shelling of Israel, the latter raises aircraft and destroys Palestinian settlements. The UN adopts a resolution condemning Israel, the US vetoed. Showing Israel who holds his leash.
    ---
    The geldings needed to "set fire" the BV, for this they created ISIS, but they were blown away under the blows of Russia, Syria and Iran.
    They tried to throw the Kurds into the heat, the Kurds did not go into the heat, and the Turks expressed their "fi" to the geldings.
    The choice among the geldings was not great: either provoke Turkey into hell, or Israel.
    ---
    That's just in the heat no one wants.
    But for the hegemon, they periodically strain the situation, and then roll back.
    Like, hegemon was bungled and not climbed into the hell.
    ---
    The question is how long the hegemon will endure this. The more stable the situation in Syria becomes, the more hegemon will kick Israel.
    Either Israel will perish, or the hegemon will merge. bully

    It's strong, it's from the heart.
    Ps. They would ask the Italians something...
    They killed the Jews in the whole of Rome.
    Today they seem to live worse than us.
  59. 0
    12 May 2020 22: 46
    a hypothetical military victory over Israel will not give anything to either Russia or Iran, but it will cost a lot.

    1. Iran is well aware that Israeli submarines constantly cruising near Iran (as non-Israeli media write) will turn the country into a desert if Israel is attacked.
    2. It is known that during a threat to the existence of the country, Israel sank an American ship, destroyed Soviet aircraft and Soviet air defenses in Lebanon:
    - as a result of an air battle between Soviet and Israeli pilots on July 30.07.1970, 4, 21 MiG-5s were shot down (the Israeli side says 4 Soviet planes were shot down, the Soviet side says XNUMX).
    - in 1982, during the battle, 24 Syrian anti-aircraft missile divisions were destroyed along with Soviet instructors
    As military observer Alexander Khramchikhin wrote:
    ,, Until now, few people in our country know that one of the main reasons for the restructuring was the defeat that Israeli aircraft inflicted on the Syrian air defense system in the Lebanese Bekaa Valley on June 9-10, 1982.
    The system was, of course, Soviet, and the newest at that time... in the cabins of the destroyed air defense systems, Soviet instructors were sitting next to the Syrians.
    It’s just that the enemy fought in a new way, and we still fought in the old way.
    1. 0
      13 May 2020 08: 22
      The plot is straight out of the game Singularity, where the USSR may collapse due to an explosion at a secret base on a remote island in the Pacific Ocean.

      The newest air defense system for 1982 is the first S-300 models. Show me to whom the USSR supplied this then. He didn’t even sell the Su-15.
  60. -1
    13 May 2020 06: 50
    Absurd. It turns out it’s okay that they are quietly shelling the territory of Syria. Only the author forgot how the Jews shot down our plane. Did they try to shoot it down earlier? They wouldn't even have a thought. Thanks to Putin and his friends. What country is this and the attitude.
  61. 0
    13 May 2020 11: 15
    Many, of course, really don’t like Israel. For them, it is like a red rag to a bull. But, if you put aside emotions, you come to the paradoxical conclusion that Israel may be a secret ally of Russia. Moreover, as Vysotsky sang, half of our people are there. They even May 9 is officially celebrated. And the fact that Israel is simply misbehaving is nonsense. The Israelis, I emphasize, the Israelis, since many other nationalities live there, cannot be called stupid. They have their own strategic interests in matters of their security, which, to the extent possible, and put them into action. From time to time, missiles are still fired across Israeli territory. And where these missiles come from is made clear to everyone. How we would have liked it that missiles were fired at Russian territory from some border country. We would also have to react somehow
  62. -1
    13 May 2020 13: 55
    Quote: Shadow041
    Israeli air strikes on Syria will stop only when Israeli planes begin to be shot down in Syria.

    Why doesn't Syria use Russian S-300s against Israel?
    Military commentators are confident that this is impossible, although the air defense systems are completely controlled by Russian consultants and operators who are responsible for all the buttons:
    Russia knows the technological capabilities of Israel, which will destroy the S-300, after which they will stop buying Russian weapons.
    The USSR experienced this shame in 1982, when Israel destroyed 24 Syrian anti-aircraft missile divisions in Lebanon, showing the superiority of Western technology over Soviet...
  63. 0
    16 May 2020 04: 18
    Ahahahaha, most of the comments are aimed at justifying the weakness of the Russian Federation. Israel completely defeated Muscovy's army when it showed a video of the destruction of the newest air defense systems delivered to the Syrians. Israel does what it wants in Syria and shows who is the real master of the situation!
  64. IC
    0
    17 May 2020 02: 45
    It will stop when Iranian military formations and their terrorist allies are taken from Syria and Lebanon.
    There is no need to lie about the 1973 war. Israel really suffered heavy losses from Soviet air defenses. And the war ended after diplomatic pressure from the USA and the USSR, when Egyptian troops were defeated in the Sinai and Sharon’s tanks were 101 km from Cairo. After the war, Sadat became disillusioned with military assistance from the USSR, broke off military cooperation, restored relations with the United States and made peace with Israel, which has already lasted 46 years. Jordan followed the same path. By the way, unlike Syria.
  65. 0
    20 May 2020 01: 17
    Firstly, Alexander Timokhin's article is an abomination.
    Secondly, Alexander Timokhin's article is stupid. And, as a well-known politician (in wide circles) wrote: stupidity is worse than abomination - it is a mistake.
  66. -1
    April 6 2021 15: 35
    Quote: forest1
    See what trade turnover with Israel, and which with Syria. Learn the value.

    It’s better to look at whose nephews have teudats in Israel, and how Israeli hardware with “Made in Russia” labels works for SORMOV purposes, merging the bases into the country of the manufacturer.
    But there is light and hope.
    Today, Nanatyahu, the disgrace of world Jewry, is being dragged for his “flaccid proboscis” to court, where he will answer as a swindler and corrupt official.
    There is an opinion that after the first clear reactions of the Israeli court, our Leader will finally “send” Benya to the camp of those who have lost confidence.
    This may affect the temporary “blindness” of our authorities to the Israeli lawlessness in Syria.

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