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Possible K2 tank raid Black Panther: South Korea reminded that it is stronger than North

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Possible K2 tank raid Black Panther: South Korea reminded that it is stronger than North

After the publication in the North Korean media of photos from one of the enterprises of the republic, at the opening of which was attended by Kim Jong-un, the Western media did not calm down in their conspiracy theories. Now, with references to physiognomy experts, it is stated that Kim is not real. In separate Western sources, it is once again stated (and again with reference to the deserter's data) that the real Kim Jong-un has passed away, and now “his double” appears in public.


In this connection, “the likelihood of an armed conflict between North and South Korea” began to be seriously discussed. The question is, who is going to attack anyone in this situation?

For example, for the British media, which were one of the first to raise a chime about the "death of Kim," this question is not fundamental. The main message is to warm up a somewhat dull degree of confrontation on the Korean Peninsula. The Daily Mail is the most zealous in reports on the "likely change of power in North Korea." It was the British media that several weeks ago announced that the “North Korean throne” had almost passed to Kim’s sister.

The topic is also affected by the American media. And in Chinese Sohu decided to remind South Korea that she is "very strong."

In particular, it is noted that "the growth of the military power of South Korea has overslept in the region." According to the rating of 2018, the Republic of Korea was in 7th place in the world, ahead of countries such as Japan, Turkey and Germany, as well as North Korea. Apparently, that rating did not take into account the presence of nuclear weapons.

Meanwhile, Western experts note that if the military confrontation between the DPRK and the Republic of Korea can manifest itself, then this will take place "against the backdrop of the struggle for power in Pyongyang." Apparently, this is the blue dream of the Western world - the struggle for power in the DPRK with the internal undermining of the foundations of the political system and the possible surrender of national interests.

And this dream is also based on winding one against the other. In particular, an indirect hint is that the Republic of Korea has modern tanks K2 "Black Panther". One possible tank raid across the border, raid with aviation support - and the case of "democratization" is done. This, apparently, provided that the North Korean army “will expect” that they will come from the south and democratize it all.

Meanwhile, the DPRK itself once again called publications in the foreign press about the death of Kim Jong-un a provocation that had nothing to do with the real situation in the country.
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  1. 6erJIblu
    6erJIblu 8 May 2020 18: 43 New
    +8
    Fist hit, whose rifle is cooler?
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 8 May 2020 18: 45 New
      23
      Tank raid? The times of World War II ended and are now fighting differently. In addition, the DPRK has an army almost 2 times larger than that of South Korea. There is nuclear weapons. A lot of artillery and OTRK. So everything is hopeless for South Korea.
      1. 6erJIblu
        6erJIblu 8 May 2020 18: 47 New
        20
        Yes, I am about the same. Delirium article about delusional articles.
      2. neri73-r
        neri73-r 8 May 2020 18: 57 New
        +7
        I agree, the DPRK army is one of the most efficient and motivated armies in the world. The army of the South Caucasus far behind her and this despite the more sophisticated weapons. The population density, relief and size of the peninsula offset the advantages in armament, and nuclear weapons leave the army of the South Caucasus in the ass.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 9 May 2020 14: 31 New
          +3
          Quote: neri73-r
          DPRK army is one of the most combat-ready and motivated armies in the world

          In the West, this factor is somehow not very taken into account. They think that if they filmed Hollywood pseudo-patriotic nonsense in favor of Western democracy, then everything is in the hat. Let them recall the Viet Cong partisans with whom they could not do anything, despite all their technological power. Let them look at the barefoot Husits, with whom one of the most equipped armies in the world (Saudis), too, can not do anything. So, it seems to me, God forbid, a meat grinder will be established in Korea, it will not seem enough to the southerners.
      3. View
        View 8 May 2020 19: 09 New
        12
        And what is the point of such a "tank raid" in general? This is a war, and as everyone knows, any armed clash pursues economic goals. What goal can South Korea achieve in this case? From my point of view, exchange now a relatively well-fed and calm life for a war in Nobody will become the leadership of South Korea. What do you think?
      4. Courier
        Courier 8 May 2020 19: 10 New
        -8
        This is a good joke.
        The South Korean Air Force is two heads taller, I don’t even want to talk about the fleet.
        Push the Juche back into their caves.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 8 May 2020 19: 13 New
          +7
          Quote: Courier
          Push the Juche back into their caves.

          Could, have long been done.
        2. knn54
          knn54 8 May 2020 19: 23 New
          +2
          In the DPRK, there are more than one hundred thousand reservists, commandos, whose service life in the army is 9 years. I don’t remember exactly.
        3. purple
          purple 8 May 2020 20: 10 New
          +4
          The South Korean Air Force is two heads taller, I don’t even want to talk about the fleet.
          Push the Juche back into their caves.

          First of all, people are fighting .. the distances there are small ... the Air Force will not help here in any way, the SK will simply be swept away. A prosperous, fat and contented South Korean, can not oppose anything to the hungry and evil North Korean, but they will be stupidly devoured
          1. Grits
            Grits 8 May 2020 21: 27 New
            +4
            Quote: purple
            A prosperous, fat and contented South Korean, can not oppose anything to the hungry and evil North Korean, but they will be stupidly devoured

            All the more so if the northerners are told that there is a lot of free "doshirak" in the enemy's trenches.
  2. svp67
    svp67 8 May 2020 18: 47 New
    +6
    One possible tank raid across the border, a raid with air support - and the “democratization” case has been done.
    One-on-one, it is not yet known who would be cooler, since northerners have their own park of "white tigers" for each "black panther",

    But such a "knightly duel" of the two Koreas simply will not happen, since the South will be supported in every possible way by the United States and North China. And for both superpowers this is a very fundamental issue.
    1. Voltsky
      Voltsky 8 May 2020 19: 14 New
      -6
      North Korean tachanka will definitely lose K2, optics, thermal imagers, bius.
      1. purple
        purple 8 May 2020 20: 11 New
        +1
        Yeah, right there will be a duel ... one on one ... well, do not tell
        1. Voltsky
          Voltsky 8 May 2020 20: 24 New
          -1
          Quote: purple
          Yeah, right there will be a duel ... one on one ... well, do not tell

          Tank -> anti-personnel weapons, with the ability to combat self-similar ones (if you briefly describe its concept); therefore, direct confrontation cannot be ruled out. But I didn’t seem to talk about a duel, but described the advantages of which BIUS is the most significant, and if you take into account the lack of thermal imagers among the North Koreans, it’s not the only one.
          1. purple
            purple 8 May 2020 20: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: Voletsky
            But he described the advantages of which the BIUS is the most significant, and given the lack of thermal imagers among the North Koreans, it is still not the only one.

            dubious advantage ... there the attack will go such that all the BIOS will simply go blind, and there will be no sense from them, and the southerners will be confused ... because used to rely on technology
            1. Voltsky
              Voltsky 8 May 2020 20: 42 New
              0
              ear and obosorutsya, and the North Koreans throw their hats; You simply poke a finger at the sky with your finger, do you know the psychology of Koreans ?! Do you know how they will react and what training they have ?!
              The answer is no.

              ps

              BIUS is an information system that helps to act more harmoniously; how she can go blind, I don’t understand, and this is not taking into account the fact that North Koreans do not have developed rap / rap
              1. purple
                purple 8 May 2020 21: 07 New
                -1
                EMP after the explosion of nuclear weapons
                1. Voltsky
                  Voltsky 8 May 2020 21: 11 New
                  +1
                  Quote: purple
                  EMP after the explosion of nuclear weapons

                  tyuyuyu ..... :) there are so many conventional weapons, and such a dense development, and in a hilly area ... that nuclear weapons are not needed. Nuclear weapons is not a club from South Korea or even from Japan
                  From South Korea, conventional artillery, OTRK and MLRS are enough ... Seoul near the border

                  to the account of amy :) What do you know what a Faraday cage is? :) The tank seems to fall under this description.
                  1. purple
                    purple 8 May 2020 21: 22 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Voletsky
                    to the account of amy :) What do you know what a Faraday cage is? :) The tank seems to fall under this description.

                    what?
                    1. Voltsky
                      Voltsky 8 May 2020 21: 29 New
                      +1
                      the effect, if any, will be minimal; A screen is a thing that is designed to block radiation.
                      Yes, and it is necessary ... if we have already moved on this subject, take into account a number of nuances.
                      And how to use nuclear weapons? Korea is a very hilly country, it is possible to achieve a synergistic effect when knocking on the ground, but it will still be local. An air blast will remove a number of problems, but again not everywhere; and how will other neighbors of the DPRK react to such an exclusion ?!
          2. +5
            +5 9 May 2020 07: 39 New
            0
            Yes, everything is clear (although the value of the thermal imager is exaggerated, the artillery of the USSR tank division had a supply of lighting shells for establishing a day for 2 hours on the entire front of the division), but the number, especially in that relief, decides ...
            1. Voltsky
              Voltsky 9 May 2020 10: 37 New
              +1
              Quote: 5-9
              Yes, everything is clear (although the value of the thermal imager is exaggerated

              Dya? :)
              I have a couple of friends who get drunk often tell stories about their army past. My favorite part is that in Soviet times there were technologies that we don’t even dream about. When asked what technologies, and if he knows what is being done at the research institute, he is silent ...

              Quote: 5-9
              The USSR had a supply of lighting shells to establish a day for 2 hours on the entire front of the division), but the number, especially in that relief, decides ...

              And now, drones are tiny, they fly silently and do not give out positions; (about electronic intelligence, not in this context)
              1. +5
                +5 9 May 2020 11: 02 New
                0
                Clearly, there is essentially nothing to answer.
                I generally wrote this to the fact that a technological advantage a priori does not give superiority and can be leveled by organizational methods.
                But K2 is not M1A2 and not T-90A ... but Samsung and T-14 will not help, replace all K2 with them
                1. Voltsky
                  Voltsky 9 May 2020 11: 05 New
                  +1
                  and where the hell did I write something the opposite!? It surpasses in performance characteristics, Mercedes Lada also excels ... but no one has canceled the gasket between the steering wheel and the seat.
      2. Grits
        Grits 8 May 2020 21: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: Voletsky
        North Korean tachanka will definitely lose K2, optics, thermal imagers, bius.

        If a dozen T-2s roll out against K55, then the thermal imager can be shoved very deeply ...
        1. Voltsky
          Voltsky 8 May 2020 21: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Gritsa
          If a dozen T-2s roll out against K55, then the thermal imager can be shoved very deeply ...

          if at great distances, and with poor visibility, then no.
          Speaking of a fairy-tale version: I would choose 10 archers than 100 men with clubs.

          ps
          on earth, the one with air superiority usually won, no? :)
          1. Grits
            Grits 9 May 2020 02: 23 New
            +4
            Quote: Voletsky
            if at great distances, and with poor visibility, then no.
            Speaking of a fairy-tale version: I would choose 10 archers than 100 men with clubs.

            All right. However, Korea is not the level deserts of Iraq, nor even the hilly plain of Mongolia. These are mainly mountains covered with forest. Yes, so wonderful and thick that even my native Primorye, which is nearby, is inferior. Both in the density of vegetation, and in the height of the mountains. And it was along them that roads were laid. And here 100 men with clubs are much better than 10 archers
            1. Voltsky
              Voltsky 9 May 2020 09: 13 New
              +1
              do you know the term dominant height? this is when men with clubs go uphill, and archers shoot them from the mountain :)
              And the fact that Korea is all in the mountains I wrote above
      3. svp67
        svp67 9 May 2020 08: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Voletsky
        North Korean tachanka will definitely lose K2, optics, thermal imagers, biu

        Yes, at least that ... the battle distance there is such that it will not be there the main factor
        1. Voltsky
          Voltsky 9 May 2020 09: 21 New
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          Yes, at least that ... the battle distance there is such that it will not be there the main factor

          in any conflict, one of the decisive factors is the rear support, well, in addition to the motivation and training of the soldiers, the mood of the people can also be attributed to this.
          But in fact, I'm not particularly interested in arguing with the Uryapatriots, who defend for some reason the "greatness" of North Korea
          For there is objective data which I explained in my posts
          1. svp67
            svp67 9 May 2020 09: 31 New
            0
            Quote: Voletsky
            For there is objective data which I explained in my posts

            You in your posts listed everything that is possible ...
            Quote: Voletsky
            But in fact, I'm not particularly interested in arguing with the Uryapatriots, who defend for some reason the "greatness" of North Korea

            I myself do not like them, because these people from "uryapatriots" at the slightest setbacks turn into "all-fledged" ... But these are our people, we have no others
            1. Voltsky
              Voltsky 9 May 2020 09: 38 New
              +1
              Quote: svp67
              You in your posts listed everything that is possible

              in terms of its performance characteristics, the "black panther" (the one that is a tank, not a cinematic mix) ... surpasses the North Korean brainchild - and that's a fact. And who will whom, in a hypothetical clash, I did not write and did not even touch on this topic; for the tank model "beggar hussit on the hill with competition" is superior to the Saudi Abrams
              1. svp67
                svp67 9 May 2020 10: 02 New
                +2
                Quote: Voletsky
                in terms of its performance characteristics, the "black panther" (the one that is a tank, not a cinematic mix) ... surpasses the North Korean brainchild - and that's a fact.

                You know, only a battle can verify this. And North Korean tanks made a big breakthrough in terms of armor protection of the same towers, they are already clearly welded and have multi-layer armor, which can be said about the upper frontal part of the hull. We don’t know anything about their surveillance devices, but the fact that the North Korean industry releases its electronics, including smartphones, which even we don’t, can already say that they can surprise
                1. Voltsky
                  Voltsky 9 May 2020 10: 16 New
                  +2
                  Quote: svp67
                  We do NOT know anything about their surveillance devices.

                  Well, maybe you don’t know, and some people work with a number of things :)
                  Germanium lenses, for example, look extremely specific.


                  You can also go through other nuances, for example, purely visually determine the thickness of the armor on a light 5 rink chassis, apparently based on the t-54/62.
                  the same spotlight for NVD also looks specific :)
                  In general, electrical engineering is a cool thing, but by no means belongs to magic, this also applies to "smartphones" :)
                  1. svp67
                    svp67 9 May 2020 10: 33 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Voletsky
                    You can also go through other nuances, for example, purely visually determine the thickness of the armor on a light 5 rink chassis, apparently based on the t-54/62.

                    Oh ... and then the "sixth" skating rink appeared ...

                    1. Voltsky
                      Voltsky 9 May 2020 10: 48 New
                      +2
                      And Brezhnev’s eyebrows, all the same, decided to increase the armor of the tower’s forehead ...
                      And they added the most banal MANPADS to the top, and apparently 2 channel optics for them, and in fact 2 channels :)
                      That's enough for me, the urapatriots are the defenders of the North Korean monarchical system :))) You say to them, no damn, they will pull out pictures from the parade with shouts of "what's this ?!"
                      1. svp67
                        svp67 9 May 2020 11: 09 New
                        0
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        You say to them, no damn, they will pull out pictures from the parade with shouts of "what is this ?!"

                        Because you are saying the incomplete truth ...
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        All is enough from me, urapatrioty defenders of the North Korean monarchical system :)))

                        It’s strange that I don’t remember where I praised him ... Well, you probably know better
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        And Brezhnev’s eyebrows, all the same, decided to increase the armor of the tower’s forehead ...

                        And "eyebrows" and DZ, and on others already welded towers with a full package of multilayer armor. The strength and weakness of the North Korean tank industry in the number of tank-building enterprises ...
                      2. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 9 May 2020 11: 18 New
                        +1
                        Quote: svp67
                        Because you are saying the incomplete truth ...

                        What is it like ?! :) + I work in the civil field, but similar technologies are just cooler and therefore more expensive by an order of magnitude

                        and dz of what generation? :) you I think you think that the latter is electromagnetic? :)
                      3. svp67
                        svp67 9 May 2020 11: 27 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Voletsky
                        What is it like ?! :)

                        And this is so ... "twisting" "similar technologies" you simply do not notice and do not know many other aspects. In particular, the features of the theater of operations, the changes gradually introduced into the design of North Korean tanks. All this in a compartment will prevent the K-2 raid, no matter how wonderful, to Pyongyang. Even if they are opposed by only one North Korean tanks. But it also has a different "side of the coin", which is the same, but from the side of the Republic of Korea, will not allow the North Koreans to make a similar tank raid to Seoul, even if they are opposed by a few South Korean tanks. There is now a certain parity
                      4. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 9 May 2020 11: 36 New
                        +2
                        I wrote about all this above, not to you, but I wrote about the features of the terrain too. The only thing I did not mention was that aviation should work with tanks and ATGM calculations with turntables.
                        I just wrote about such a simple concept as performance characteristics, which are better in K2 than in the North Korean brainchild, I did not touch on the tactics of their use, anything else, only performance characteristics; and the funny thing is that I even rejected the very idea of ​​the possibility of this conflict, calling it "fabulous" and "hypothetical".

                        From which it follows that you are talking to yourself.
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 8 May 2020 19: 21 New
    +4
    Quote: svp67
    And for both superpowers this is a very fundamental issue

    Yes, even technically, a raid is not possible at all. To do this, you need to break through the multi-band defense in layered. And engineering training on both sides ensures the meaninglessness of any land attack.
    1. albert
      albert 8 May 2020 20: 25 New
      +1
      In addition, the terrain in the north of the peninsula is mountainous. There, tank raids are not very successful in the south. yes
      1. svp67
        svp67 9 May 2020 10: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: albert
        There, tank raids are not very good for the south.

        What can not be said in a southerly direction, where there is a lot of flat land ... allowing from the border to rush straight to Seoul
  • APASUS
    APASUS 8 May 2020 18: 49 New
    +5
    The Americans did not substantially die Kim or not. There is a confrontation there within the political elites for its place or it is absent. The Americans need a military conflict by the plague, the American economy is at stake.
    1. alone
      alone 8 May 2020 18: 58 New
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      There is a confrontation there within the political elites for its place or it is absent. The Americans need a military conflict by the plague, the American economy is at stake.

      The Korean Peninsula is unlikely to become a theater of war. There, the factor of the city of Seoul plays a key role in addition to the nuclear arsenal. 30 km from the line .. The city is under heavy artillery fire
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 8 May 2020 19: 05 New
        +6
        Quote: lonely
        The Korean Peninsula is unlikely to become a theater of war ..

        I would have given 10 years ago to the horn, for the words that 50 people would be burned in the middle of Odessa ..........
        1. alone
          alone 8 May 2020 19: 07 New
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          I would have given 10 years ago to the horn, for the words that 50 people would be burned in the middle of Odessa ..........

          Why go far if the Near East is on fire ... It’s much more tempting there than in North Korea ..
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 8 May 2020 18: 59 New
    0
    Western media did not calm down in their conspiracy theories. Now, with references to physiognomy experts, it is stated that Kim is not real.

    And here is one of the experts:

    The Republic of Korea was in 7th place in the world, ahead of countries such as Japan, Turkey and Germany, well, and North Korea.

    Here are the goodies. There are Hansam with Fritz and a place.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 8 May 2020 18: 59 New
    +4
    North Korea needs to write in a day about the death of the Queen of England, about the death of the leader of South Korea! It is necessary to adequately respond to the North Koreans to a lie, responding with the same coin to the liars.
    1. Fanur Galiev
      Fanur Galiev 8 May 2020 19: 27 New
      +1
      Maybe so, of course, but the fact is that propaganda in North Korea itself is arranged somewhat differently. In many respects, it operates according to old patterns, in contrast to the modern propaganda machines of its neighbors and Western countries. For example, instead of immediately demonstrating an official "shot from a mortar or anti-aircraft gun", they will ignore such statements for a long time, and then, six months later, this person will appear in new frames. There is such a specificity.
  • demo
    demo 8 May 2020 19: 00 New
    0
    In particular, it is noted that "the growth of the military power of South Korea has overslept in the region." According to the rating of 2018, the Republic of Korea was in 7th place in the world, ahead of countries such as Japan, Turkey and Germany, as well as North Korea. Apparently, that rating did not take into account the presence of nuclear weapons.

    Each question has a clear answer:
    We have “maxims”, they don't have it.

    It's like boys and girls competing with whom is "longer".
  • Karaul20
    Karaul20 8 May 2020 19: 04 New
    -6
    South Korea is far superior in population to North Korea, South is much more technologically advanced in terms of armaments, and industry and economy are simply incomparable. The question is nuclear weapons? In Korea, US bases have nuclear weapons.
    1. Graz
      Graz 8 May 2020 19: 23 New
      +4
      South Korea is a slice of today's Western civilization, and society is the same
      the sole individual will always lose to the collective, and in North Korea just collectivism.
      If the society in North Korea remains monolithic in its views, neither Americans nor South Koreans will get anything shining by military means
      1. Karaul20
        Karaul20 9 May 2020 10: 04 New
        -1
        Tales of fighting spirit have begun. South Korea has conscious citizens, they understand what they are protecting - their freedom, their country, they understand what awaits them if they are captured by the DPRK. And what should North Korean cattle who were forbidden to think understand? Not even funny already.
      2. ANB
        ANB 9 May 2020 19: 22 New
        +1
        Watching the movie Parasites. There you can see all this.
        . South Korea is a slice of today's Western civilization, and society is the same
    2. Fanur Galiev
      Fanur Galiev 8 May 2020 19: 30 New
      0
      Should this somehow reassure the South Koreans? Well, there is American nuclear weapons, so what? Will this save them from retaliation? Atomic mushrooms will still grow over the cities, and what's the difference to the inhabitants of these cities that exactly the same can appear over Pyongyang?
    3. awdrgy
      awdrgy 8 May 2020 19: 33 New
      0
      And China also has (and not on the territory of Korea), so what? Here - "And I'll call my brother" will not work
    4. Lopatov
      Lopatov 8 May 2020 19: 33 New
      0
      Quote: Karaul20
      South Korea is far superior in population to North Korea, South is much more technologically advanced in terms of armaments, and industry and economy are simply incomparable. The question is nuclear weapons? In Korea, US bases have nuclear weapons.

      Great post. Everything is absolutely true.
      But why are they so afraid of her?
      1. BREAKTHROUGH READY
        BREAKTHROUGH READY 8 May 2020 21: 58 New
        +1
        But why are they so afraid of her?
        everything is simple here, wars are fought for profit, and North Korea’s entire history has either had a “roof” from a Chinese elder brother or the possibility of causing unacceptable damage (nuclear deterrence)
      2. vindigo
        vindigo 9 May 2020 22: 46 New
        0
        They are afraid of a motivated and trained North Korean soldier. And in my communication they are very afraid. They say that we will defeat them, but what remains of our country and economy?
    5. purple
      purple 8 May 2020 20: 15 New
      0
      South Korea is far superior in population to North Korea, South is much more technologically advanced in terms of armaments, and industry and economy are simply incomparable. The question is nuclear weapons? In Korea, US bases have nuclear weapons.

      Understand the matter in people ... Yukoreytsy are soft-bodied, they will simply be torn ... and all your technologies after a nuclear explosion will not mean anything, and moreover they will even make a mess in the management of the army of the South Caucasus who rely on technology, and the IC is motivated, a large number, plus the distances there are small ... Well, I didn’t put the apple on the UK
    6. Grits
      Grits 8 May 2020 21: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: Karaul20
      In terms of population, South Korea is much superior to North; in terms of armaments, South is much more technologically advanced.

      But is he much superior in combat training, discipline, stamina, heroism and motivation?
    7. vindigo
      vindigo 9 May 2020 22: 43 New
      0
      The population in South Korea is rapidly aging. Fertility due to the high cost of living is very low. They have this is a national problem. Soon the northerners will capture the southerners without war.
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 8 May 2020 19: 11 New
    +2
    the North Korean army is very ideological, these under the tanks with grenades will climb; + nuclear and not very power plants in the radius of destruction, like many other infrastructure. All this hints at the fact that any real conflict of high intensity will lead to unacceptable damage for both countries even without the use of nuclear weapons. Which is well understood in both Korea, and therefore there are only cross-border skirmishes.
  • View
    View 8 May 2020 19: 12 New
    -1
    Quote: APASUS
    The Americans did not substantially die Kim or not. There is a confrontation there within the political elites for its place or it is absent. The Americans need a military conflict by the plague, the American economy is at stake.

    Could you please explain how the "American economy" is connected with North Korea?
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 8 May 2020 19: 14 New
    +3

    In this connection, “the likelihood of an armed conflict between North and South Korea” began to be seriously discussed. The question is, who is going to attack anyone in this situation?
    Actually, after the end of the Korean War, the whole meaning and existence of both Korean armies is the path of two peoples. But Korea is a single country and that it was separated by the USSR and the USA in the 50s, the bridgehead of the Cold War. Now China is lighting the sun as a guard at the DPRK. Closed ec..zones, etc.That is the very China that Afghanistan muddied after two dozen years. I will remind you that American military specialists and help went to Afghanistan only after 2 years when the Chinese started there. Just one question ---- newsreel Mujahideen. So --- Kalash are Chinese, ammunition is Chinese, DShK guess s chi.V Pakistan has deployed a wide network of primary camps podgotovki.Kem --- NOAK.I army is now technically and quite by chance the Taliban occupy these structures.
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 8 May 2020 20: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Dshk guess whose

      Guess why .. and how it all started ..
      Try now something about Stalin is bad to say in the Middle Kingdom ..

      An unpleasant incident for the American culture attache Robert Ford occurred at a contemporary art exhibition in Shanghai.

      During his speech at the opening of the event, the diplomat was reckless to say: "I am glad that gradually Chinese art has moved away from the traditions of bloody Stalinism and has come to a modern tradition."

      After that, five people immediately flew into Ford, who threw him to the floor and began to kick him.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 8 May 2020 20: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: dvina71
        Guess why .. and how it all started ..
        I am too old and wise to guess about something. I know one thing, the DShK were Chinese, Kalash and patrons too. PLA officers organized camps for dushmans. The Saudi consensus and the United States joined later, realizing that China was taking over the initiative in the region. Actually, the Americans stared into Afghanistan in order not to let the Chinese go there. If you do not recognize such general concepts, then console yourself with the thought that America is there for the sake of drugs. After all, this is the American way --- invest 20 lard and withdraw 200 million! in fact, the coalition contingents blocked the routes of international trade smuggling, and so the Taliban had to switch to drugs. There were joint operations by US forces and our "Thunder" detachment at one time. How can you not understand that the United States stuck into Afghanistan not for the sake of profits from drugs, but spent much larger sums, for what? To prevent China from entering this region.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 8 May 2020 20: 32 New
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          Quote: Thunderbolt
          To prevent China from entering this region.

          And they also invaded Iraq, practically unleashed a war with Iran, destroyed Syria ... and all for the sake of China ..
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          i am too old and wise

          The second is very doubtful .. you know ..
      2. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 8 May 2020 20: 44 New
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        Well, so whose were the DShK and Kalash at the Mujahideen? Weakly admit that la? I will help you --- they were all Chinese. Everything else --- these are your philosophies, diplomatic history does not confirm such an incident, but he is known from a single source and he is Russian-speaking.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 8 May 2020 20: 46 New
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          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Well, whose were the DShK and Kalash at the Mujahideen

          Yes, the Chinese .. it was not a secret even in the 80s .. Everyone knew how many horns were enough for their trunk ..
          You just opened with a bean ..
          The question is why?
          Answer. 20th Congress of the CPSU.
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 8 May 2020 22: 22 New
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            Quote: dvina71
            You just opened with a bean ..

            Yes, I like to call a spade a spade and opened the bin of Chinese aggression, so Comrade X next to Mr. Pu will never bother me. He has something to share. Who to capture and who to defend.
            Quote: dvina71
            The question is why?
            Answer. 20th Congress of the CPSU.

            I care the present strengthening the military-economic power of the People's Republic of China. Leave their 20th congresses to their skeletons, so you won’t be able to take the blow to the side and do not answer. But what to do with the strengthening of the border areas? The Strategic Missile Forces shield doesn’t channel or the strategists in the USSR were wreckers, because The Soviet Union responded to the PLA’s aggressive activity with a strengthening of SDs and a greater concentration of forces. And how did the current ones respond to the growth of China?
            1. dvina71
              dvina71 8 May 2020 22: 33 New
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              Quote: Thunderbolt
              .A answer than the strengthening of border areas?

              You have chinophobia in extreme form ..

              The Chinese must first seize 60% of their territory in order to reach the Russian borders.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 8 May 2020 19: 20 New
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    Another exacerbation ... Spring, what can you do ... To "measure" who is stronger when one country has nuclear weapons, and the other only "allies" who have never protected anyone laughing
    Delirium aimed at inciting hatred. But if the South Caucasus had not been occupied by mattress-bandits, the two Koreas would have united for a long time.
  • Freeman
    Freeman 8 May 2020 19: 55 New
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    One possible tank raid across the border, a raid with air support - and the “democratization” case has been done. This, apparently, provided that the North Korean army “will expect” that they will come from the south and democratize it all.


    I think the answer to this question is unequivocal.

  • Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 8 May 2020 20: 33 New
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    I’m afraid that the DPRK army and people are so motivated that they simply cannot lose the war to South Korea. They have nothing to lose. They are just right if they understand that the attack is becoming too serious, just the same, and they can quite realistically beat the vigorous loaf.
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  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 8 May 2020 20: 39 New
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    Feed any North Korean, he will be like Un.
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 8 May 2020 22: 39 New
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      Quote: 7,62x54
      Feed any North Korean, he will be like Un.


      Miserable, do you really think you were joking funny?
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 8 May 2020 20: 58 New
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    First, Seoul banged ....
  • Ingenegr
    Ingenegr 8 May 2020 21: 09 New
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    Quote: Spectrum
    Yes, they will be halved by Donetsk and Lugansk itself, but there is no such order.

    Don't underestimate the APU. Over the past 5 years, they have learned a lot, formed quite efficient intelligence, communications and command structures. In addition to the "meat", well-trained and equipped units appeared.
    And in general, it is bad manners to talk about a potential enemy in a derogatory tone. The Vainakhs have a good proverb: "you are judged by your enemies." That is, if your enemy is a lion, then you are. Well, if a ram ... I hope you understand further.
  • cniza
    cniza 8 May 2020 22: 09 New
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    The question is, who is going to attack anyone in this situation?


    Whose job is this?
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 8 May 2020 22: 36 New
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    Western media did not calm down in their conspiracy theories. Now, with references to physiognomy experts, it is stated that Kim is not real.

    It is necessary to justify obosratushki "non-profit Western media")))
    Now the king is not real to them))

    South Korea recalled that it is stronger than North

    Yeah, of course, the crap one’s media sleep and see how Korea will butt, they’ll banana their collar, provocateurs)
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 8 May 2020 22: 38 New
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    Northerners will die southerners. No options.
  • Fmax
    Fmax 9 May 2020 02: 26 New
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    Yes, China will soon acquire another area than the northern ones will decide to surrender to the south because of a squabble for power.
  • Charik
    Charik 9 May 2020 07: 22 New
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    How do they want the Koreans to kill each other, as well as the Slavs, like the Muslims, why no one would stir up the Americans and the British to wet each other, or the Lithuanians and Latvians, to wet each other Estonians.
  • Astra wild
    Astra wild 9 May 2020 07: 25 New
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    "The Chinese Sohu decided to remind South Korea that it is" very strong "colleagues, when the British or American media say that South Korea will defeat the northerners - one thing, but when China starts talking about it! How to understand this? Another question:" Sohu " what kind of edition it is: army?
  • Tuzik
    Tuzik 9 May 2020 08: 21 New
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    Even the Saramis do not help the Abrams, and the patriots, too, get soup from the women in flip flops
  • Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 9 May 2020 09: 11 New
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    If Seoul and its nuclear power plants were not within the reach of cannon (not even rocket) artillery shells of the northerners, and the northerners did not have a motivated army capable of enduring high losses, then someone could be frightened by the "tank raid of the southerners".
  • beeper
    beeper 9 May 2020 09: 34 New
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    This, like the aggression of the US proteges in Ukraine, once again demonstrates to the world the insidious (by no means democratic, but colonial !!!) essence of the parasitic Anglo-Saxon "civilization" and its "values"! request
  • K-50
    K-50 9 May 2020 10: 38 New
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    "The region has overslept the growth of South Korea’s military power." According to the rating of 2018, the Republic of Korea was in 7th place in the world, ahead of countries such as Japan, Turkey and Germany, as well as North Korea.

    I would think twice in the place of the South Caucasus to jerk to the North, because nuclear weapons are a wonderful deterrent.
    Well, that pye won't live long. You shouldn't hope that Kim is alive or not, "the king is played by the retinue", and therefore this twitching is fraught with southerners, fatally fraught. yes
  • Chever
    Chever 9 May 2020 13: 40 New
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    You can continue to adore the DPRK, but the South will never go to war alone, and its armaments are unlike modern. And is there a nuclear weapon in the North that doesn’t change the situation too? The North, of course, can be defended, but on the offensive - a big and dubious question
  • Eug
    Eug 9 May 2020 22: 29 New
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    I am delighted with the phrase: "this is the blue dream of the Western world - the struggle for power in ... ... with the internal undermining of the political system with the possible surrender of national interests." You can't say more precisely, but instead of a dots, you can enter any country ...
  • meandr51
    meandr51 9 May 2020 23: 02 New
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    The northerners have an An-2 attack aircraft (except for jokes). To work on the roads in the gorges, it’s the most!
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 10 May 2020 08: 22 New
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    Tanks, airplanes, all crap, South Koreans snickering cowards who will run immediately, and the tanks will burn perfectly, like airplanes.
  • Bodipancher
    Bodipancher 10 May 2020 13: 52 New
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    In the DPRK, even women for 4 years in the army serve, plus in each school's schools they teach military affairs and sabotage. The country has been living in a military camp regime for more than 50 years, in the event of a full-fledged war, pampered South Koreans have 0 chances.