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Differentiation of incomes of the population of Russia: ruble arithmetic

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The economic problems faced by the country as a result of the pandemic and the collapse in oil prices can lead to a significant decrease in household incomes. The differentiation of incomes of Russians will also change.


Income at the beginning of 2020 does not differ from income at the beginning of 2019.


According to information published by the Federal State Statistics Service, the differences in incomes of Russian citizens in the first quarter of 2020 remained virtually unchanged compared to the same period last year. So, 2019% of the wealthiest Russians received 10% of the total amount of cash income in 28,6 (in 2020 - 2019%). As for the poorest compatriots, they possessed only 28,7% of the total amount of cash income, and for the year this indicator did not change at all.

If we talk about per capita income, then less than 7 thousand rubles per month per person had 4,2% of the country's population (in 2019 - 4,8%), and more than 100 thousand rubles per month - 2,4% (2,1% in 2019) of the total population. At the same time, the total share of those whose per capita income does not exceed 19 thousand rubles per month is 36,8% of the population, that is, more than a third of the total population of the country.

It is worth noting that the number of children in the family directly affects the average income: if a man with a salary of 100 thousand rubles has 3 children and an unemployed wife, then their average per capita income will be less than that of a single person with a salary of 25 thousand rubles. Ruble arithmetic. Unfortunately, having many children in modern Russia is practically a guaranteed way to slide into poverty even for people with good salaries, unless it is a question of super-incomes.

Millions of Russians go bankrupt after a pandemic


However, already in the second quarter of 2020, both household incomes and their differentiation may change significantly. The reason for this is not only and not so much the collapse in oil prices, but the coronavirus pandemic and the regime of self-isolation. A number of sectors of the economy stopped operating for two months, many businesses were on the brink of ruin, and employees lost their jobs.

Specialists of the Institute for Development Center of the Higher School of Economics talk about the possibility of reducing real incomes by 20%. Academician Abel Aganbegyan announced the figure for the decline in income for the entire 2020 - according to his forecast, it will be 5-10%. The economist draws such a conclusion, based on an approximate forecast for a country's GDP decline of 5% in 2020.

However, from our point of view, these are very optimistic figures. Moreover, the Russian economy has a rather specific organization: tens of millions of people work informally, respectively, neither income nor loss of income is taken into account in relation to them, and yet these are, nevertheless, consumers of goods and services whose decline in living standards will inevitably affect the whole economy.

The data of opinion polls, meanwhile, speak of a different scale of revenue reduction. So, a survey of Online Market Intelligence (OMI) and the Platform’s Social Design Center, whose data were published by RBC, showed that over 50% of respondents reported a significant reduction in income in their families, and 46% of those surveyed were afraid that they wouldn’t even have enough for food. Approximately 14% of respondents said that they were sent on unpaid leave, and 8% admitted that they had already lost their jobs.

Thus, many Russians will reduce their income by 50-70%. According to some forecasts, the number of unemployed in Russia could grow by several million at once. Among them will be hired workers, and even entrepreneurs, whose business managed to “burn out” during the regime of self-isolation. After all, 28% of Russian companies are now at risk of bankruptcy.

At the same time, it can be assumed that the number of poor and those living below the poverty line will increase as a result of the crisis.

At the same time, the difference in income between the poorest and most wealthy Russians will grow.
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  1. Crowe
    Crowe 8 May 2020 17: 37 New
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    Specialists of the Institute for Development Center of the Higher School of Economics talk about the possibility of reducing real incomes by 20%.

    If they even think so, it will be even worse.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 8 May 2020 17: 52 New
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      Differentiation of incomes of the population of Russia: ruble arithmetic

      I would say: Rublev arithmetic. yes
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 8 May 2020 18: 25 New
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        Millions of Russians go bankrupt after the pandemic.

        That's for sure! It is unlikely that it will be possible to survive a pandemic without ruin for state employees and non-state employees, and not for employees at state enterprises with state orders.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 8 May 2020 20: 50 New
          +8
          According to some forecasts, the number of unemployed in Russia could grow by several million at once.

          Restaurateurs, estimate only 8 million unemployed in their direction .. Therefore, after the pandemic, there will be not millions, but tens of millions of unemployed .. This is of course .. As a result of crime, etc. .. and the 90s ..
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 8 May 2020 21: 50 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            According to some forecasts, the number of unemployed in Russia could grow by several million at once.

            Restaurateurs, estimate only 8 million unemployed in their direction .. Therefore, after the pandemic, there will be not millions, but tens of millions of unemployed .. This is of course .. As a result of crime, etc. .. and the 90s ..

            Of course, due to the pandemic, the restaurant business turnover fell sharply.
            But, with these numbers restaurateurs (or you?) Also "bend to the cold."
            In all Catering in Russia employs up to six million people. Share in it:
            - cafes, restaurants, bars - 23%;
            - coffee shop - 5%;
            -tables - 8%
            -other formats - 13%
            Total - 49%
            If, according to the Federal State Statistics Service, the working-age population of Russia is 82,2 million people, then from your post you can conclude that 10% of them work in the restaurant business? belay
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 8 May 2020 22: 20 New
              +2
              then from your post we can conclude that 10% of them work in the restaurant business? belay

              For what I bought .. as they say .. This was said by some famous restaurateur who has an extensive network .. he did not remember the restaurateur’s name, but the figure is 8 ml. remember.
          2. 72jora72
            72jora72 9 May 2020 01: 00 New
            +3
            Restaurateurs, estimate only 8 million unemployed in their direction .. Therefore, after the pandemic, there will be not millions, but tens of millions of unemployed .. This is of course .. As a result of crime, etc. .. and the 90s ..
            Aksenov said that the tourist season in Crimea would not be until the vaccine was created, which means that everyone who was imprisoned for tourism and leisure in the Crimea will simply lose their business. And the governor of Crimea did not explain who would compensate the whole thing (as well as who will return the vouched vouchers to people , about 85 percent was bought back in the summer, because they are usually bought at the beginning of the year).
            1. Normal ok
              Normal ok 9 May 2020 10: 22 New
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              Quote: 72jora72
              Restaurateurs, estimate only 8 million unemployed in their direction .. Therefore, after the pandemic, there will be not millions, but tens of millions of unemployed .. This is of course .. As a result of crime, etc. .. and the 90s ..
              Aksenov said that the tourist season in Crimea would not be until the vaccine was created, which means that everyone who was imprisoned for tourism and leisure in the Crimea will simply lose their business. And the governor of Crimea did not explain who would compensate the whole thing (as well as who will return the vouched vouchers to people , about 85 percent was bought back in the summer, because they are usually bought at the beginning of the year).

              In Crimea it will be even worse. Since autumn, winter and spring were almost without precipitation (and summers forecast record hot), water problems (which have occurred before) multiply many times. So agriculture (and private gardens) will simply die from drought.
          3. nod739
            nod739 9 May 2020 01: 25 New
            +6
            I'm afraid to make a mistake, but we have only 9 tens of millions of working citizens, the rest are children and pensioners ...
            So what dozens are we talking about?
          4. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 13 May 2020 10: 56 New
            -1
            who now goes to restaurants ??? what restaurants, nonsense carry 8 million))))
      2. your1970
        your1970 8 May 2020 18: 45 New
        -31
        In the country, 43 million valid passports .... casting aside minors, old people and homeless people, it turns out that every second working citizen had the opportunity to travel abroad ....
        And you will say that people traveling abroad have no money ????
        that pensioners have a small pension - this is an iron fact, that in the province problems with work are also a fact, but the fact that a person traveling abroad has no money to rest is a blatant lie ...
        In the country, 46 million deposits of more than a million are the money of people aching now "there is no money, I will die of hunger"
        You need to live within your means - and not grab iPhones / Mercedes on credit
        If anyone doesn’t get it, grandmothers from their pensions get cheap to collect for their funerals, and sometimes big sums ..
        All crying must take lessons from these grandmothers
        1. Beringovsky
          Beringovsky 8 May 2020 19: 48 New
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          Quote: your1970

          If anyone doesn’t get it, grandmothers from their pensions get cheap to collect for their funerals, and sometimes big sums ..
          All crying must take lessons from these grandmothers

          Gather yourself for a funeral, or what?
          1. your1970
            your1970 8 May 2020 20: 35 New
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            Quote: Beringovsky
            Quote: your1970

            If anyone doesn’t get it, grandmothers from their pensions get cheap to collect for their funerals, and sometimes big sums ..
            All crying must take lessons from these grandmothers

            Gather yourself for a funeral, or what?

            No, don’t buy clothes for 100, iPhones, cars worth more than a million, don’t drink at night clubs and don’t drink drinks worth more than 000 ... live within our means to begin with ...
            And then first to Spain / Montenegro, show off left and right, a car older than three years old - "oh, this junk" ....- and right there- "oh we have no savings" ... and there will not be ...
            It was necessary to solve the initial problems (housing, study, treatment) - and only then in barbershops to shave his beard ...
            It's time EVERYONE has come to learn to save, there is no money and never will be ...
            1. Alekspel
              Alekspel 8 May 2020 20: 46 New
              20
              You are a stupid person, or something. Do you live in Maskva? Where did you see in the province 100 mp
              salary. People like you will soon be raised to forks. And who has private jets fade.
              1. your1970
                your1970 8 May 2020 21: 02 New
                -4
                Quote: Alekspel
                You are a stupid person, or something. Do you live in Maskva? Where did you see in the province 100 mp
                salary. People like you will soon be raised to forks.

                The province is nowhere to be seen, the town is 20 ... In the classroom, the son has 000 iPhones, 22 Samsung Galaxy and only 2 phones worth less than 3 .....
                Absolutely ordinary class, no majors and bureaucrats / oligarchs children.
                Even if their parents gobble up the swan, I won’t feel sorry for them ... it's their choice ...

                Quote: Svarog
                It’s not entirely reasonable, in my opinion, to take a loan on vacation, nevertheless, the rial is as follows
                - - And these are not a pity. Nobody thought of the head of them when he took loans ...
                1. frolov andrey
                  frolov andrey 8 May 2020 23: 00 New
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                  That's right they told you about the pitchfork. I do not feel sorry for you and the like.
                2. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 8 May 2020 23: 19 New
                  10
                  Quote: your1970
                  The province is nowhere to be seen, the town is 20 ... In the classroom, the son has 000 iPhones, 22 Samsung Galaxy and only 2 phones worth less than 3 .....
                  Absolutely ordinary class, no majors and bureaucrats / oligarchs children.

                  I greatly apologize, but sound the name of your "backwoods" with total iPhone and barbie .. barb .., ugh, in shops.
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 9 May 2020 15: 19 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Malyuta
                    Quote: your1970
                    The province is nowhere to be seen, the town is 20 ... In the classroom, the son has 000 iPhones, 22 Samsung Galaxy and only 2 phones worth less than 3 .....
                    Absolutely ordinary class, no majors and bureaucrats / oligarchs children.

                    I greatly apologize, but sound the name of your "backwoods" with total iPhone and barbie .. barb .., ugh, in shops.

                    Saratov region, the district center of the Volga region - is it easier for you ??? If I write-Ozinki, Novouzensk, Alexandrov Gai, Perelyub-understand where it is ?!
              2. Sahalinets
                Sahalinets 9 May 2020 02: 05 New
                +9
                Everything is relative here. For example, I get a steward, being a completely ordinary worker. That's just I live on Sakhalin and our prices are just horseback. And for everything, including even the fish that we catch. Sakhalin seafood is cheaper in Moscow!
                1. 72jora72
                  72jora72 9 May 2020 13: 45 New
                  +3
                  Everything is relative here. For example, I get a steward, being a completely ordinary worker. That's just I live on Sakhalin and our prices are just horseback. And for everything, including even the fish that we catch. Sakhalin seafood is cheaper in Moscow!
                  I fully confirm that in Chukotka, only an average steward leaves for a family of 4 people for food (without any frills).
            2. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 8 May 2020 22: 52 New
              +6
              You are terribly far from the people. Especially from the castle.
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 8 May 2020 20: 53 New
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          And you will say that people traveling abroad have no money ????

          All my friends went abroad on credit .. It’s not entirely reasonable, in my opinion, to take a loan on vacation, nevertheless the rial is such .. So half of the 43 mil. it’s possible to clean up .. that’s 15% of the total number of citizens of the Russian Federation. It was the “middle class”, now I think it will become much smaller, it’s good if 8% remains ..
          1. nod739
            nod739 9 May 2020 01: 30 New
            +8
            In addition, it’s cheaper to go to some kind of Turkey than to Sochi, under equal conditions
        3. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 8 May 2020 22: 26 New
          +3
          Quote: your1970
          In the country, 46 million deposits of more than a million are the money of people aching now "there is no money, I will die of hunger"

          The middle class with 17000 re accumulated in vain?
          1. your1970
            your1970 9 May 2020 15: 46 New
            +2
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Quote: your1970
            In the country, 46 million deposits of more than a million are the money of people aching now "there is no money, I will die of hunger"

            The middle class with 17000 re accumulated in vain?

            pensioners with us poor-I hope, you obvious will not deny ????!

            Well then you type in a search engine - "Stolen from a pensioner" and read ..
            "According to the pensioner, she found an advertisement on the Internet offering to increase savings. The woman left her data, after which she called back and promised higher interest if she invests her savings in their company. Then the scammers advised me to install one program on the phone. The pensioner did it and then deducted from her card 1,088 млн rubles. "
            "Two men and a woman were detained in St. Petersburg. They are suspected of deceiving an 85-year-old pensioner on 40 thousands rubles. "
            "Law enforcers opened a criminal investigation into the theft of money from an elderly woman from Leninsk-Kuznetsk. The deceived woman said that the pseudo-banker did not call her on the phone. The fraudster alleged that some attackers tried to deduct money from her account. He suggested that this would not happen again. pensioner transfer all her savings to a safe account. Woman sent to an attacker 100 thousands rubles, after which he no longer got in touch. "
            "The bank’s false employee stole from a 64-year-old pensioner from Zavyalovsky district of Udmurtia 290 thousand. rub. under the pretext of protecting money from theft. "
            "Police officers are looking for fraudsters who have been stolen from a pensioner in the Belgorod region over 43 million rubles after the purchase of her icon. This was reported to TASS by the official representative of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, Irina Volk. "
            "In Moscow, an unknown person stole a pensioner from a bank account over 525 thousand rubles, according to the press service of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia for the city. "
            "According to V1.ru the press service of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Volgograd Region, on July 13, a 76-year-old resident of the Ilovlinsky district turned to the police. According to the victim, an unknown person came to her under the pretext of selling sugar. The pensioner invited a stranger to the house where she started in every possible way to distract the woman. After the saleswoman left, the old woman discovered the loss 200 thousands rubles and immediately reported this fact to the police. "
            "In Tula, police officers detained two gypsies on suspicion of fraud. The day before, an 86-year-old pensioner living on Pervomaiskaya Street was tricked 100 thousands rubles. "
            "Nearly 6 million lost a pensioner from Sarapul on the pretext of earning money on the exchange. About it on Thursday reports the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Udmurtia. "
            "According to the pensioner, she found an advertisement on the Internet offering to increase savings. The woman left her data, after which she called back and promised higher interest if she invests her savings in their company. Then the scammers advised me to install one program on the phone. The pensioner did it and then deducted from her card 1,088 млн rubles.
            "One more criminal case was opened on the fact of fraud on an especially large scale, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia in the Kirov region said."
            "In one of the capital’s theaters, unknown persons stole a smartphone from a pensioner, REN TV reports.
            According to the channel, the woman lost iPhone X. "
            “Magnitogorsk. Just the other day, another townswoman became a victim of telephone scammers. There were large funds on the account of the 67-year-old woman - almost 300 000 rubles, probably accumulated with great difficulty. "
            "A 69-year-old resident of the Soviet District called an unknown and introduced himself as a bank employee.
            Following the directions of the false banker, an elderly woman took a taxi, which was provided and paid by the interlocutor, and took off 650 thousand. rubles from my account, and then, also by taxi, I proceeded to the specified ATM to transfer money for safety. "
            "The day before, a 61-year-old local resident contacted the Dalmatovo police and reported missing from her bank account about one million rubles. "
            The bank “stolen” from a pensioner from the Kotelnikovsky district of the oblast’s region with a large sum was found ... in the victim’s apartment. As explained by Information Agency “Height 102” in the press service of the Main Directorate of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia for the region, today a pensioner called the police and said that they had found the savings. Before leaving for Volgograd, she hid the can with 1,5 million rubles and 17 thousand US dollars into another room and forgot about it. "

            similar things are with
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            The middle class with 17000 re in vain boards
            - someone interrupts from pearl barley to millet (like basic a lot of pensioners) - someone else has extra money and suddenly 17 bucks in a stash

            ZY
            Quote: frolov andrey
            That's right they told you about the pitchfork. I do not feel sorry for you and the like.
            - they will not raise me, I have nothing to take and the salary is 16 600
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 9 May 2020 16: 56 New
              -4
              Quote: your1970
              - they will not raise me, I have nothing to take and the salary is 16 600

              It's not about your money.
              1. your1970
                your1970 9 May 2020 20: 09 New
                +4
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Quote: your1970
                - they will not raise me, I have nothing to take and the salary is 16 600

                It's not about your money.

                That is, they will cut ("raise the forks") for the IDEA? Did I understand you correctly?
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 9 May 2020 21: 49 New
                  -4
                  No, not right.
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 9 May 2020 22: 44 New
                    +6
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    No, not right.

                    And then what? If not for the idea ??? There are no stone chambers, no Mercedes, no party member, no iPhone, no deputy, no oligarch ...
                    For what? !!! if not for IDEA, I do not mind the pitchfork ??? !!!
                    Quote: frolov andrey
                    That's right they told you about the pitchfork. I do not feel sorry for you and the like.

                    And they say Civil cannot be with us, yeah, schaz- can not ...
                    1. IS-80_RVGK2
                      IS-80_RVGK2 10 May 2020 10: 03 New
                      -3
                      Quote: your1970
                      And then what? If not for the idea ??? There are no stone chambers, no Mercedes, no party member, no iPhone, no deputy, no oligarch ...
                      For what? !!! if not for IDEA, I do not mind the pitchfork ??? !!!

                      For what you essentially protect the system that robs them.
                      Quote: your1970
                      And they say Civil cannot be with us, yeah, right now, we can’t

                      It can imagine. Now there is already someone and what to fight for. A fairly large class of small and medium-sized owners appeared, and the difference in wealth significantly increased.
                      1. your1970
                        your1970 10 May 2020 20: 39 New
                        +3
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        For what you essentially protect the system that robs them.
                        - it means all the same for IDEA....
                      2. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 11 May 2020 11: 37 New
                        -3
                        So still no. For the money that you offer them to give to the capitalist.
                      3. your1970
                        your1970 11 May 2020 12: 04 New
                        +3
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        So still no. For the money that you offer them to give to the capitalist.
                        quote (!!!!!!) please me - where do I offer something to anyone give back????? just not thinking of myself - direct quote!!!!!!
                        You distort my writing
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        For what you essentially protect the system that robs them.

                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        So still no. For the money that you offer them to give to the capitalist.

                        It’s what you thought up in your head / type of conjecture - but what’s written in me
                        Quote: your1970
                        You need to live within your means - and not grab iPhones / Mercedes on credit

                        Moreover, I not a single word I defend (!!!) power in their posts. Not in one of them - on which there is a discussion ....

                        I expressed OBVIOUS thing - in the country a few tens million passports, there are several tens million deposits over a million, there are pensioners in the country - who are robbed of hundreds of thousands ... this is an objective reality - you can’t refute it ...
                        Quote: your1970
                        someone interrupts from barley to millet (like basic a lot of pensioners) - someone else has extra money and suddenly 17 bucks in a stash


                        Z.Y. You pissed me off - I called a friend in the administration and found out especially for you: my neighbor on the street, legally unemployed for about 30 years (he has his own Kamaz and an apartment bought in autumn in Bulgaria) - he applied for the allowance as a poor again. He’s like "beggar"- his wife has a salary of 12 for 000 ....... He’s already kind of "goes from nettle to quinoa" ....
                        Z.Z.Z. The apartment was bought for cash - no one will give him a loan, "to the unemployed for life"
                      4. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 11 May 2020 12: 42 New
                        -2
                        Quote: your1970
                        You threw me out. I called a friend of the administration and found out specifically for you: my neighbor on the street, legally unemployed for about 30 years (he has his own Kamaz and bought an apartment in Bulgaria in the fall) - he submitted documents for the allowance as a poor person again. He’s like " beggar "- his wife has a salary of 12 for 000 ....... He’s already like" goes from nettle to quinoa "....

                        And what does this particular case prove? Nothing. By the way, what prevents you from calling the tax? This neighbor essentially lives at your expense and at the expense of other law-abiding tax payers.
                      5. Birch
                        Birch 11 May 2020 12: 46 New
                        0
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        And what does this particular case prove? Nothing. By the way, what prevents you from calling the tax? This neighbor essentially lives at your expense and at the expense of other law-abiding tax payers.

                        And so many of you stukanuli in the tax and police ..?
                        These are now being educated and "respected" in a liberal get-together .. Tuck and put it on the Internet!?
                      6. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 11 May 2020 13: 00 New
                        -3
                        Quote: Birch
                        And so many of you stukanuli in the tax and police ..?

                        What does it have to do with it? This is if that crime.
                        Quote: Birch
                        These are now being educated and "respected" in a liberal get-together .. Tuck and put it on the Internet!?

                        You are a strange person whining that your neighbor does not pay taxes and illegally receives benefits, while campaigning to live not according to the law, but according to concepts.
                      7. your1970
                        your1970 11 May 2020 13: 38 New
                        +3
                        1)
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Quote: Birch
                        These are now being educated and "respected" in a liberal get-together .. Tuck and put it on the Internet!?
                        You are a strange person whining that your neighbor does not pay taxes and illegally receives benefits, while campaigning to live not according to the law, but according to concepts.

                        it my neighbor - not Birches lol lol you beguiled us ....

                        2)
                        Quote: your1970
                        - So all the same for the IDEA ....
                        - judging by the fact that you didn’t answer my question and didn’t quote my quote - for DISAGREE and YOUR opinion ... different from these
                        Quote: frolov andrey
                        You're lying brazenly. You wipe United Russia or one of them.


                        ZY
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        By the way, what prevents you from calling the tax?
                        -KAMAZ was the 05th region with the owner in the cemetery ... There was such a fashion in Dagestan for registering cars for deceased people — so as not to pay fines / taxes, a power of attorney notary in the teeth and forward. After this shop was pinched - he re-arranged the car for himself and ours region. Now, as in adults, it pays the vehicle tax and that’s all .... And since it’s not an IP, it’s a bad idea to call the tax, they won’t catch it at the time of transportation ....
                      8. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 11 May 2020 14: 10 New
                        -3
                        Quote: your1970
                        this is my neighbor - not Birch

                        Yes, a little missed. laughing
                        Quote: your1970
                        And since he is not a private entrepreneur, he’ll call a fool about the tax, they will not catch him at the time of transportation ....

                        There would be a desire.
  • frolov andrey
    frolov andrey 8 May 2020 22: 57 New
    +6
    You're lying brazenly. You wipe United Russia or one of them.
  • Unic
    Unic 9 May 2020 08: 47 New
    +2
    Many also rested on credit money, on last-minute trips it was possible to relax cheaper than ours. This is not an indicator of wealth.
  • Roman123567
    Roman123567 12 May 2020 11: 50 New
    0
    Well, I have a passport .. although I haven’t been anywhere for 40 years beyond Abkhazia and Crimea ..
    As there is now no money to pay a mortgage, in connection with a decrease in wages ..
    So what??
  • Civil
    Civil 9 May 2020 09: 24 New
    +1
    capitalism, what can you do, and in the process of consolidation
  • siberalt
    siberalt 9 May 2020 10: 04 New
    -3
    Rather, speculators - entrepreneurs, those who were chemically taxed and paid wages for workers, would go broke. In my city, half of the birdhouse kiosks were closed. And those who stayed sell fruit twice as much as in chain stores. Moreover, these fruits are from the same wholesale base. And service providers will hardly suffer. To get a haircut, shave armpits, pubic hair or paint the toenails of those who wish, it will not diminish.
  • Walrus fang
    Walrus fang 8 May 2020 17: 42 New
    -18
    Quote: Crowe
    Specialists of the Institute for Development Center of the Higher School of Economics talk about the possibility of reducing real incomes by 20%.

    If they even think so, it will be even worse.

    Or maybe the opposite will happen .. There will be an outflow of people from Moscow to their homeland and here you can live on the land to cultivate and restore enterprises .. Isn’t it all so bad, maybe? hi
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 8 May 2020 17: 51 New
      28
      Everything will be even better, Meehan. They will all die, and we will go to paradise. So you waited for me to answer? Horror is coming to the people, and like you hehki all. You are not even stupid, you are traitors. Frank and mocking.
    2. alone
      alone 8 May 2020 18: 23 New
      15
      Quote: Walrus Fang
      enterprises to restore

      How are they going to restore them? Can you tell me?
      1. Walrus fang
        Walrus fang 8 May 2020 20: 00 New
        +9
        Quote: lonely
        Quote: Walrus Fang
        enterprises to restore

        How are they going to restore them? Can you tell me?

        Read Comrade Stalin ....))))
        There is huge potential in Moscow and other regions! bully

        These are the things in the counterintelligence of the taiga district
        1. alone
          alone 8 May 2020 20: 13 New
          +6
          Quote: Walrus Fang
          These are the things in the counterintelligence of the taiga district

          And yet, it would be interesting to know what kind of cones ordinary people can restore a ruined industry ...
          Vitali, where is your famous "hehe heh"?
    3. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 8 May 2020 22: 27 New
      -1
      You got grass there.
  • alone
    alone 8 May 2020 17: 46 New
    20
    Mdaaa ... the figures are depressing ... Particularly alarming is the high percentage of those who receive around 19000 rubles .. Income income, but taxes and utilities turn these 19000 rubles off ... almost nothing .. And the country is rich .. None of countries can not boast of such rich natural resources ..
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 8 May 2020 23: 02 New
      0
      Look at this.
      https://youtu.be/0YUybzmpwxE
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 8 May 2020 17: 49 New
    +2
    article proves to us that oil is oily ...
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 8 May 2020 17: 52 New
    25
    Forgot to note that in the last 5 years the tax burden for Russians has been increasing and tax collection has been rising and indirect taxes and excise taxes are being constantly introduced .... and they will be introduced. And we do not have normal loans ... medicine, which is becoming more expensive every year, higher education is in fact paid, at school, also leads to commerce in high school. And incomes from the age of 14 have not been growing, but now they have begun to fall. We are not slaves, we are not slaves! It remains to insert the chips.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 8 May 2020 18: 36 New
      11
      Quote: Zaurbek
      And we do not have normal loans ...

      To hell with your grandmother, all these loans, you live here one day, and you don’t know what will happen next.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 8 May 2020 20: 11 New
        -1
        Simply, the increased tax burden also implies affordable borrowed funds .....
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 8 May 2020 20: 20 New
          +9
          Quote: Zaurbek
          increased tax burden implies affordable borrowed funds .....

          You take it for a while, but you give it away forever. In the furnace, all these loans.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 8 May 2020 20: 24 New
            +6
            I myself do not like and do not take ..... I had to take in March. Everything seems beautiful and not expensive .... and then a bunch of bred ... and this is in the daughter of Sberbank.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 8 May 2020 20: 29 New
              +4
              Quote: Zaurbek
              and this is in the daughter of Sberbank.

              In general, a couple of weeks ago in Sberbank I refused to give out more than 15 thousand rubles. From the savings book. They said that there is no money.
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 8 May 2020 20: 32 New
                -1
                With me, too, the people said so .... must be ordered for a couple of days .... money to issue.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 8 May 2020 20: 36 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  need to be ordered in a couple of days .... cash to issue.

                  Meanwhile, let my dad cool in the morgue? Yes, they all went to Benin’s mother, crooks. A beggar beggar is many times more decent than bank leeches.
                  1. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 8 May 2020 20: 39 New
                    0
                    Well here honest or not honest do not say ..... either a lawyer or a judge or a banker
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 8 May 2020 20: 58 New
        +8
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        To hell with your grandmother, all these loans, you live here one day, and you don’t know what will happen next.

        On the contrary, it's time .. Soon they will have nothing to pay and will have to forgive .. the amnesty will be .. as well as with fines for traffic rules .. And if not, there will be a riot or financial collapse .. Already, according to analysts, 60% of debtors do not pay explaining the difficult financial situation, and if self-isolation lasts another month, then the percentage may increase to 80 .. with all that it implies ..
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 8 May 2020 21: 34 New
          +3
          Quote: Svarog
          amnesty will be ..

          I doubt it. Although, it’s like fortune telling on a daisy white-will-will-not be. If it does, then it means that those who have loans are lucky, but if it doesn’t, then: "And Ivan Lezhnev - to live as before!"
  • knn54
    knn54 8 May 2020 17: 53 New
    +7
    And lenders are right there.
  • Snail N9
    Snail N9 8 May 2020 17: 58 New
    16
    Something like this ...

  • Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 8 May 2020 18: 14 New
    19
    In order to slow down the decline in the Fairytale rating, I propose to replace the term "decline in real incomes" with the term "negative growth". (Joke). But seriously, the regime of self-isolation was stupidly organized, with a great deal of idiocy. "Putin's holidays" is a vivid example of how the state does everything at the expense of the people. Sit at home and you will not need to spend budget money on your treatment. What to live on and pay for EVERYTHING is your problem. But Italy help, God himself, apparently ordered.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 8 May 2020 18: 21 New
      24
      I propose to replace the term "decline in real incomes" with the term "negative growth".

      Already .... Already replaced. And how long.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 8 May 2020 21: 00 New
        +8
        Quote: Snail N9
        I propose to replace the term "decline in real incomes" with the term "negative growth".

        Already .... Already replaced. And how long.

        And because he supports .. wassat
  • Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 8 May 2020 18: 15 New
    10
    Well, not so bad. Not everyone will die and not everyone will become poor. At least for the main bank of Russia - Sberbank, I am calm. This bank is sure to get rich. Well, and who does not fit into the market - well, to hell with them. The planet is small, a lot of population. There are many more with us. But for now ...


    “Engaged in corruption scandals, the head of Rusnano Anatoly Chubais did not join the new composition of the international council of JP Morgan Chase. Sberbank’s head German Gref was invited to replace him.

    A few days ago it became known that the head of the Rusnano state corporation, who had been hit by security forces and mired in high-profile “laundering” scandals, Anatoly Chubais did not enter the new composition International Council of the American Bank JP Morgan Chase. At the same time, a holy place does not happen empty - a citizen of Russia still found a place in the updated council: the head of Sberbank German Gref was elected a new member of the advisory body to the world's largest bank and one of the most influential spokesmen for the Wall Street financial oligarchy. "
    1. alone
      alone 8 May 2020 18: 26 New
      14
      Quote: Old Horseradish
      Engrossed in corruption scandals, the head of Rusnano Anatoly Chubais did not join the new composition of the international council of JP Morgan Chase. In his place, the head of Sberbank German Gref was invited.

      laughing laughing One was replaced by another .. This one is mired, and the new crystal is "clean" ..
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 8 May 2020 21: 01 New
        +5
        Quote: lonely
        Quote: Old Horseradish
        Engrossed in corruption scandals, the head of Rusnano Anatoly Chubais did not join the new composition of the international council of JP Morgan Chase. In his place, the head of Sberbank German Gref was invited.

        laughing laughing One was replaced by another .. This one is mired, and the new crystal is "clean" ..

        Rokirovochka-with .. a lot of way ..
        1. alone
          alone 8 May 2020 21: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: Svarog
          Rokirovochka-with .. a lot of way ..

          Probably there was no time for a buildup wassat laughing laughing
        2. Old Horseradish
          Old Horseradish 8 May 2020 21: 49 New
          10
          Dear Svarog, and this is a shitty multi-path. Gref, he’s m .... as if to write softer .... he is interested in Kabbalah. In general, an ideological comrade. Not much will seem to us. Recall Chubais.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 8 May 2020 21: 58 New
            +7
            Quote: Old Horseradish
            Dear Svarog, and this is a shitty multi-path. Gref, he’s m .... as if to write softer .... he is interested in Kabbalah. In general, an ideological comrade. Not much will seem to us. Recall Chubais.

            Yes, that Gref, that Chubais .. by the way he is there 20 ml. man was ready to sacrifice capitalism .. so that one field of berries ..
            1. Old Horseradish
              Old Horseradish 8 May 2020 22: 18 New
              +5
              With this mania, stick everyone on the chip so that no one can buy or sell without this chip. But this is already scary.
  • Vasily Ponomarev
    Vasily Ponomarev 8 May 2020 18: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: lonely
    Mdaaa ... the figures are depressing ... Particularly alarming is the high percentage of those who receive around 19000 rubles .. Income income, but taxes and utilities turn these 19000 rubles off ... almost nothing .. And the country is rich .. None of countries can not boast of such rich natural resources ..

    venezuela richer oil heh
    1. alone
      alone 8 May 2020 19: 04 New
      +3
      Quote: Vasily Ponomarev
      venezuela richer oil heh

      Do you compare Russia with Venezuela? Good comparison...
      1. Vasily Ponomarev
        Vasily Ponomarev 8 May 2020 21: 32 New
        +2
        > You are comparing Russia
        where do I compare? I don’t need to ascribe anything to me, I wrote what I wrote, that's all. But what do you think there
  • Shahno
    Shahno 8 May 2020 18: 29 New
    -7
    I have not even read. And the first question. Your actions to make a difference. Suggestions, initiatives?
    1. AUL
      AUL 8 May 2020 19: 10 New
      12
      And for what, in fact, are you interested in? Both proposals and initiatives have been put forward here at VO. And a lot of very sensible. And what, does anyone at least listen to them?
    2. kjhg
      kjhg 8 May 2020 19: 19 New
      19
      The first and main step is a change in the country's leadership and complete lustration. Formation of a government of national salvation. Then, phased re-election of all elected power structures.
      This is the first step. Many others will follow. You can even do without weaning from the rich and distribution to the poor. It is enough to stop the ongoing theft. What do you suggest? Zero the nullies and support the rich?
      1. Romey
        Romey 8 May 2020 19: 30 New
        11
        The first step is yes, but the second immediately probably all the same should be an audit of the Central Bank and major banking institutions. So as not to have time to pump over the remaining finances. And for some time (limited in time with a subsequent report, until the adoption of the new Constitution), one can hardly do without a soft version of the national dictatorship. Something like this went through South Korea.
      2. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 8 May 2020 23: 07 New
        0
        A change in the country's leadership will do nothing.
        Look, something may clarify for you.
        https://youtu.be/0YUybzmpwxE
        1. Fevralsk. Morev
          Fevralsk. Morev 9 May 2020 07: 32 New
          +2
          In October 1917, a change of leadership took place. The results were visible after 20 years. And this hackneyed record "WhoEsNePutin" has already become boring. Is he immortal?
          With the current leadership, we are falling down with acceleration. And most importantly, this is a feeling of hopelessness.
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 9 May 2020 11: 02 New
            -3
            Such a change of power as in 1917 will lead to the final collapse of the country. All our problems have been going on since 1991. They handed over the country, handed over their native home, did not go to defend it, and now there are a lot of questions why it is so cold and hungry. I am not campaigning for Putin, I am saying that nothing will change whoever replaces him. This is the basic law of the country will not do.
            1. Fevralsk. Morev
              Fevralsk. Morev 9 May 2020 16: 57 New
              -1
              Answer the question. After October 17th, the country fell apart? No. Our country has become better, more powerful, capable of providing and protecting itself. It was not the Communists who did it. This was done by the people under the leadership of the new government. And stop blaming on the problems of the 90s. Look at the results of the leadership of the country of Stalin and Putin over 20 years. See the difference?
              1. Herman 4223
                Herman 4223 9 May 2020 21: 41 New
                0
                Not twenty, but thirty years, we have been led through international UN agencies, which in turn are controlled by the United States, this is spelled out in the country's main law. This leads to a complete mess in the country and further leads to destruction. And now it’s not 1917, the second time it may not take a ride, the country may fall apart completely and they will actively help us in this.
                There is only one alternative, to remove the priority of international law from the fundamental law, and restore the sovereignty of the country within the legal borders of 1945, for which 27 million lives were given to our grandfathers in the last war.
              2. Herman 4223
                Herman 4223 9 May 2020 21: 45 New
                +1
                And yes, in 1917 the country fell apart, and was rejuvenated by terrible blood and devastation, and not completely restored. Finland, Poland and the Baltic countries were lost.
                1. Fevralsk. Morev
                  Fevralsk. Morev 11 May 2020 05: 30 New
                  -6
                  Finland, Poland - small loss. After the war, they were in the sphere of our interests. The Finns planned their production according to our five-year plans.
                  1. Herman 4223
                    Herman 4223 11 May 2020 06: 49 New
                    +1
                    Are you normal With Poland alone, 30 million people left.
                    1. Fevralsk. Morev
                      Fevralsk. Morev 11 May 2020 12: 09 New
                      -5
                      With their magnificent arrogance, the eternal delirious idea of ​​“from mozh to mozh”, the phantom pain of the Commonwealth ..... In short, why was this crap needed? They are brothers to us, as if they were not and will not be. A simple Pole is a normal person. But if he is a nobleman (politician), then he is completely gov ... Russophobe.
                      1. Herman 4223
                        Herman 4223 11 May 2020 13: 29 New
                        0
                        And let's give Karelia then. Why do we need this hemorrhoids?
                        They certainly dream of a great Karelia from the Barents to the Baltic Sea.
                        The fact that you are retelling is an element of propaganda that is alien and hostile to Russia. You’ll listen to this today, tomorrow they’ll write something new for you. Like what I wrote to you above. And there will be people who will say why we need hemorrhoids with Yakutia, Buryatia, Dagestan, etc. ,by the list.
                      2. Roman123567
                        Roman123567 12 May 2020 12: 11 New
                        -1
                        Propaganda-is that our Crimea, and Poland / Finland must be part of the Republic of Ingushetia ..))
                        The man above correctly noted .. why do we need these Poles ?? Here, people would be glad to get rid of Chechens / Dagestanis .. Maybe we’ll also join the Americans .. through Alaska ..
                    2. Herman 4223
                      Herman 4223 11 May 2020 13: 35 New
                      0
                      Having separated from us, such new states fall under the care of our enemies and unwind the flywheel of anti-Russian propaganda.
                      And our enemies make themselves an ally against us, with a real army and hate us fiercely.
                    3. Fevralsk. Morev
                      Fevralsk. Morev 11 May 2020 15: 41 New
                      -4
                      You will not be forcibly sweet. Remember the Soviet-Polish war. With what persistence and completely voluntarily, ordinary Poles fought with the Red Army. Well, they did not want to be a part of another country. They wanted to be a separate country. They had their own history, their own state. Good or bad, they decide. If you follow your logic, then the separated states fall under the influence of our enemies. Recall the times of the USSR. What, all of Eastern Europe was part of the USSR? No. It was enough to establish a friendly regime in the state, organize the Warsaw Treaty, CMEA and allies were near us. And now from Belarus, we want to have something, in terms of business, to fuck. And leave you alone with your Poland. The Mongols do not bother that delays .... lost Russia. Unpaired.
                    4. Herman 4223
                      Herman 4223 11 May 2020 22: 03 New
                      +2
                      And ten years before the Soviet-Polish war, Poles lived in the Russian Empire and did not bathe. And another two hundred years would have lived if the World War I and the collapse of the country had not happened.
                      If you meekly surrender the territory of your country, then your country as a result will not become.
                      As for the Mongols, this is generally a controversial fact of history.
                  2. Roman123567
                    Roman123567 12 May 2020 12: 12 New
                    -1
                    What enemies ?? Who are we fighting with ??
                    Hospadi, and these people still write about propaganda ..))
              3. Roman123567
                Roman123567 12 May 2020 12: 07 New
                -1
                Well, gone and gone .. To whom did it get worse ?? By the way, a little later the whole Baltic states came to us .. although it also didn’t snuggle up, because whatever one may say, it’s really a strange population .. So these departures / parishes do not say anything ..
                Let everyone leave, if only everyone will end up better after that !! Or is it just a fix idea - to be the biggest country, and join everyone to yourself ?? And then complain that we are so poor, because our territory is very large. yes the climate is fig ..
                1. Herman 4223
                  Herman 4223 12 May 2020 13: 23 New
                  0
                  Nahalyavu in life, nothing happens. You will not live well if you build your fatherland. Who better to live after 1991? This is very good if you need your enemies as an additional force, as an ally against someone. Then for the population this will not affect much for some time. But if not, you will be turned into a poor colony where you will work for food. Poverty, disease, and skillful propaganda will reduce your population. In any case, your population will be assemilated with other peoples who do not have a sense of homeland like the locals (Europe as an example to you), you as a nation will not become over time.
                  The competition of the nation has been and will be.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 8 May 2020 18: 32 New
    19
    Thus, many Russians will reduce their income by 50-70% ...
    At the same time, it can be assumed that the number of poor and those living below the poverty line will increase as a result of the crisis.
    At the same time, the difference in income between the poorest and most wealthy Russians will grow.

    Formed as a result of this, the new socialist state will have almost all the claims to the right of ownership and property and ownership registers received during the criminal coup ... to imagine? "Waist-high". In addition, it will find a way to identify those responsible for this genocide, and apply a measure of social protection against them ...
    request What did they want?
    1. your1970
      your1970 8 May 2020 20: 51 New
      -9
      Quote: ROSS 42
      there will be practically "to the waist" all claims for the right of ownership and property and ownership registers received during the criminal coup ... Can you imagine? "Waist-high".

      Three stores were privatized, in the field there may be something wrong ... they were taken from the hostess, slapped, God bless her ... tomorrow a crowd of people will come to the store for bread, and his aunt ... because the bakery can also be seized and its owner also spanked ... and the farmer from whom the bakery bought flour, he also spanked, because he was collective farmers for nothing or deceived in the 90s ...
      Three have already been slapped - but there is no bread in the store ...
      .and exactly in a week the people will say: "Yes, we saw your socialism in the grave - if there is nothing to eat with it !!!!!" .....
      Now he does not need to promise that the next generation will live under socialism. The people will demand here and now, and not in 10 years ...
      In the 20th century there were 2 redistributions of property in Russia - in 1917 and 1991. Both times after that, 10 years in the country there was complete lawlessness and a mess .... they don’t want the current 30 year olds to wait normal life 10 years
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 8 May 2020 22: 32 New
        +2
        And if tomorrow is the same, but under capitalism? Or did you forget about the great depression? So I remind you.
      2. Titus_2
        Titus_2 8 May 2020 23: 42 New
        +4
        So do you think that with the current trends of our government, the majority will be better? It seems like you need to think about children, but unfortunately nothing is visible ahead. In this situation, all are doomed .... or rather children and grandchildren to slavery.
      3. your1970
        your1970 9 May 2020 15: 49 New
        +3
        12 minus people spanked out of hatred - but in words they could not refute what I wrote. A trifle, but nice ..
      4. strannik1985
        strannik1985 9 May 2020 16: 38 New
        -1
        In the 20th century there were 2 redistributions of property in Russia

        In the presence of strategic nuclear forces, civil war is unlikely, but another chaos is quite.
        Your example is strange - can a store be only private? Can't be cooperative?
        1. your1970
          your1970 9 May 2020 18: 05 New
          +2
          A cooperative store should take where bread? If you have already shot the grain producer and he was shot because he squeezed the collective farm land and the collective farm need to work on something?
          And if they didn’t shoot, then he, for example, crushed 10 times the cost of grain? And then what?
          1. strannik1985
            strannik1985 9 May 2020 18: 35 New
            -2
            Why should I shoot and wring?
            1. your1970
              your1970 9 May 2020 20: 19 New
              +3
              Quote: ROSS 42
              possession ... Can you imagine? "Waist-high". In addition, it will find a way to identify the perpetrators of this genocide, and apply a measure of social protection against them ...
              What did they want?
              - this is the answer to this statement ...
              And if they don’t shoot and take away the land, then the collective farms will have nowhere to work ...
              Or or....
              1. strannik1985
                strannik1985 9 May 2020 21: 04 New
                0
                - this is the answer to this statement ...

                A strange answer to a strange statement.
                Who is going to speculate in the countryside with grain and arrange arson of collective farm buildings and intimidate collective farm activists?
                1. your1970
                  your1970 9 May 2020 22: 34 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Alekspel
                  Here are people like you and they will raise the forks soon

                  These will be, well, or there will be such ...
                  Or one or the other, of your choice
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 8 May 2020 18: 37 New
    10
    "Thus, many Russians will reduce their income by 50-70%"
    Not many, but only me.
    Moreover, they will not be reduced, but have long been reduced.
    What do I work for the state (factory) ....
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 8 May 2020 18: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Benzorez
      Not many, but only me.

      Why did you get this?
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 8 May 2020 18: 42 New
        +8
        Looking into your wallet ... I can’t cover the payments to the bank.
        Only a stretched canoe with percentages is mine.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 8 May 2020 18: 58 New
          +5
          Quote: Benzorez
          Looking into your wallet ...

          And why is it only with you? Here, from a week ago, they taught me to push money into a smartphone and did not believe that there wasn’t a fig on the map.
          1. Petrol cutter
            Petrol cutter 8 May 2020 20: 23 New
            +4
            From the fact that I personally did not teach. For any smartphones to push something there.
            Moreover, I consider this an erroneous doctrine. hi
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 8 May 2020 20: 26 New
              +2
              Quote: Benzorez
              From the fact that I personally did not teach.

              You are not.
              Quote: Benzorez
              but only with me.

              Not only with you.
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 8 May 2020 21: 02 New
      +6
      Quote: Benzorez
      "Thus, many Russians will reduce their income by 50-70%"
      Not many, but only me.
      Moreover, they will not be reduced, but have long been reduced.
      What do I work for the state (factory) ....

      A very logical conclusion .. and optimistic ..
  • igorra
    igorra 8 May 2020 18: 40 New
    -3
    Yeah, so we relaxed ... That's what 20 calm years have done with us. Remember the 90s, the delay in salary, the wildest prices. There is only one way out, the people didn’t disperse, they paid their employees a white salary and did not rat with taxes, you have an exemption from taxes and an irrevocable salary loan for the period of limitation of work. In the future, in a special list for working with the budget and all sorts of other goodies. Those who mowed are also on the list, only black.
    1. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 9 May 2020 07: 41 New
      -1
      A little bit, so immediately 90s !!!!! In 1945, the war ended, and from 1947 to 1952 prices fell 7 (SEVEN) times. 11 years after the Victory, a rocket with a satellite was launched into space. And now, what's the difference with the 90s? Then there was no work and there was a delay with the salary. And now there is a lot of work, but only the size of the salary and prices are not encouraging.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 8 May 2020 18: 55 New
    +8
    At the same time, the difference in income between the poorest and most wealthy Russians will grow.
    .... Here they are the delights of the bourgeoisie .. Someone has barrels of jam and boxes of cookies, someone has empty barrels and empty boxeslaughing
    1. alone
      alone 8 May 2020 19: 06 New
      +9
      Quote: parusnik
      .... Here they are the delights of the bourgeoisie .. Someone has barrels of jam and boxes of cookies, someone has empty barrels and empty boxes

      And according to statistics, each has half a barrel of jam and half a box of cookies
      1. Walrus fang
        Walrus fang 8 May 2020 20: 21 New
        +5
        Quote: lonely
        And according to statistics, each has half a barrel of jam and half a box of cookies

        Does the Levada Center? Well, yes, in Moscow it can be wink
        And in our province, usually salt, matches. It’s millet .. and already it came down to the cartridges (as in the film "Voroshilovsky shooter".) soldier
        1. alone
          alone 8 May 2020 20: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: Walrus Fang
          Does the Levada Center? Well, yes, in Moscow it can be

          No .. At Rossgoskomstat
          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 8 May 2020 22: 34 New
            +3
            Which is now run by the Ministry of Economic Development? How is it about the goat and the garden?
            1. alone
              alone 8 May 2020 22: 43 New
              +3
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Which is now run by the Ministry of Economic Development? How is it about the goat and the garden?

              That's why everything in openwork .. And the numbers you need
  • Million
    Million 8 May 2020 19: 16 New
    10
    Nothing, Putin will lift Russia off its knees! (Sarcasm)
    1. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 9 May 2020 07: 44 New
      -2
      Yeah. Only he needs another 20 years to steer the country. A total of 40 years will be. The figure is familiar, but I don’t remember about what and what it refers to. Tell me, forum users are Russians.
      1. mole
        mole 9 May 2020 09: 57 New
        +1
        He is just beginning!

        The phrase is not mine, from the Tale of Tsar Vladimir the Red Sun.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 8 May 2020 19: 34 New
    0
    Quote: AUL
    And for what, in fact, are you interested in? Both proposals and initiatives have been put forward here at VO. And a lot of very sensible. And what, does anyone at least listen to them?

    To be honest. I do not have a goal about the Russian realities. You want to know why, because there are no instruments of influence. But there is concern ...
    Although your suspicions are clear and loud ..
  • TAMBU
    TAMBU 8 May 2020 19: 36 New
    +6
    the rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer ... just a little faster ...
    1. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 9 May 2020 07: 45 New
      -1
      At the same speed. Our state is social.
  • Shahno
    Shahno 8 May 2020 19: 52 New
    -4
    Quote: Shahno
    Quote: AUL
    And for what, in fact, are you interested in? Both proposals and initiatives have been put forward here at VO. And a lot of very sensible. And what, does anyone at least listen to them?

    To be honest. I do not have a goal about the Russian realities. You want to know why, because there are no instruments of influence. But there is concern ...
    Although your suspicions are clear and loud ..

    Of course, I can participate in the elections, but this is ridiculous ...
    1. Walrus fang
      Walrus fang 8 May 2020 20: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: Shahno
      Of course, I can participate in the elections, but this is ridiculous ...

      So laugh together ..you most importantly come to us! bully
      And Khodorkovsky, together with Gusinsky grab, etc. ..That will be a laugh. When you all come to the polls and get confused in your passports)))) lol negative
  • Beringovsky
    Beringovsky 8 May 2020 20: 16 New
    +7
    Today we understand that we are moving further and we will not get anywhere from this virus. We must change our rules, together with business, the rules for future life for some period, maybe before the end of the year, if a vaccine appears, maybe sooner if the virus decides that it is “tired and quits,” said Anna Popova, head of Rospotrebnadzor at a meeting with members of the United Russia faction in the State Duma.

    This is just a song! Understanding Government Issues at the Level can the vaccine will appear can the virus itself will say "I'm tired, I'm leaving" ....
    I'm in shock ... who runs the state?
    И these people forbid us pick your nose to go out?! belay
    1. iouris
      iouris 8 May 2020 20: 26 New
      +7
      Quote: Beringovsky
      who runs the state?

      Turn off the microphone! Following!
    2. alone
      alone 8 May 2020 20: 39 New
      +5
      Quote: Beringovsky
      who runs the state?

      Not you
      Quote: Beringovsky
      And these people forbid us to poke our nose into the streets ?!

      And you try, get out ... Get a fine, or maybe a term (For resistance to the government representative)
      Quote: Beringovsky
      Understanding the problems in the government at the level may the vaccine appear, maybe the virus itself will say "I'm tired, I'm leaving" ....

      If everything were so simple fellow Comprehension is an alien concept
    3. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 9 May 2020 07: 48 New
      -2
      Who are these people ? These people, you know whose people are. But HE, you know who, you fools in your galley, (oh sorry), the team will not recruit. There are all such as the selection ....
  • iouris
    iouris 8 May 2020 20: 24 New
    +3
    Not clearly. A histogram (statistical distribution function) should be given. On such a sample there is no problem to break even into twelve digits. Then there would be killer material. This is especially true of small cities, where one billionaire is able to raise the average per capita income in the city to 40-50 tyr, and people are stunned by such "statistics".
  • Mexican. 29
    Mexican. 29 8 May 2020 20: 30 New
    10
    Good day to all. I read the discussion, and in my head revolves "there is money in the country, but there is no money for the people." I am not an economist, but it seems to me that we have fundamental problems with the expenditure and distribution of national wealth, and is it already national ...
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 8 May 2020 23: 11 New
      +1
      Here is the answer, look if interested.
      https://youtu.be/0YUybzmpwxE
  • for
    for 8 May 2020 20: 39 New
    10

    Now they count and research that we live too richly.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 8 May 2020 21: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: for
      Now they count and research that we live too richly.

      Their brain should be examined .. maybe discoveries will be .. well, for example, they will find only one gyrus ..
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 8 May 2020 22: 36 New
      +3
      Something is rather weak. Better immediately 50 billion. To thoroughly research, to the last comma, so to speak.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 8 May 2020 20: 42 New
    -1
    Here was Mitya the prime minister, it was possible to rush at his feet, ask for alms. And now the cabinet has changed, the prime minister with the face of a ruthless car, to whom to go, from whom to ask ?!
  • rruvim
    rruvim 8 May 2020 21: 38 New
    10
    I have four children, I have slipped into poverty literally now. Wife does not work. My company is 1.5 months under isolation. OKVED code 58.11 did not fall under Mishustinsky "tricks ..." The bank will require a monthly loan repayment on May 11, tax on the simplified tax system for 2019 (you won’t pay fines and penalties), bailiffs (although the foreman promised that fines and penalties would not will be taken this year) blocked the card for transport tax. MTS has blocked the number; it is "hanging" at the enterprise. In time, take up a rope with soap, or a machine gun. I’ll choose something.
    1. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 9 May 2020 07: 55 New
      +4
      Machine gun, take a machine gun. The spectacle is still there. There aren’t enough ropes for these villains, and a lot of time will be left.
      I sincerely sympathize with you. The whole country is in this situation.
    2. your1970
      your1970 9 May 2020 16: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: rruvim
      OKVED code 58.11
      -publishing books ?? That is, before that, your printing house worked well and only the virus knocked down the book publishing?
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 9 May 2020 16: 36 New
        0
        Rather, the closure was not a printing house, it was already closed, but the closure of bookstores and therefore wholesalers. Yes, and the rented warehouse was closed, because the owners were afraid of fines for the release of movers. I’m not one tenant there. The rent anyway drips into your account, like a sentence.
        1. rruvim
          rruvim 9 May 2020 16: 42 New
          0
          Circulation 3000-5000 copies. sold in 1-3 years, so circulations are stored for a longer time in a warehouse. But if bookstores are "closed", then ... It’s clear that! But 58.11 (publishers) did not fall into any of the "most affected sectors" according to the occupation government. But the filmmakers hit.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 May 2020 21: 46 New
    +6
    In May, Muscovites will have to wear masks and gloves, otherwise a fine.
    In June, Muscovites will have to wear chemical protection, otherwise a fine.
    In July, Muscovites must work for masks and gloves, otherwise a fine.
    Muscovites must pay fines in August, otherwise a fine
  • Al Asad
    Al Asad 8 May 2020 22: 13 New
    +4
    I received a few days ago the salary for the April premium fell 2 times. Although the company did not work for only 2 weeks. I work in the main subsidiary of the Gazpromavtomatization holding
    That's the way it is.
    Gazprom dreams come true !!!
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 May 2020 16: 51 New
      +2
      Well, at least for you, but it’s much more difficult for others.
  • seacap
    seacap 8 May 2020 23: 10 New
    +7
    The main thing is that the suit should sit, but everything is fine in the "fortress" and the numbers agree, like the top managers of state-owned companies with millions of incomes per day are the problems of the "Indians", moreover, those who are under house arrest and do not get underfoot with "stupid" questions , without trial, sentenced to starvation, with atrocious police officers under the windows and beyond repression to citizens deprived of any income.
  • Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 8 May 2020 23: 39 New
    +4
    The coronovirus will not go anywhere either a month or even a year later. Restrictive measures, respectively, also will not go anywhere. The nightmare is just beginning.
    The economy will be Tyndets, many will die or lose their health from the virus, rampant crime due to the impoverishment of the population.
    Further riot and the collapse of the country.
    Why is that?
    https://youtu.be/0YUybzmpwxE
    1. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 9 May 2020 07: 57 New
      0
      And IM then, before that. They all live on another planet and they have different problems.
    2. cniza
      cniza 21 May 2020 16: 49 New
      +2
      Of course there is nothing good in the virus, but it’s not so gloomy as you draw.
  • aviapit123
    aviapit123 9 May 2020 06: 23 New
    +3
    The little girl is about a month late.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 9 May 2020 06: 58 New
    -7
    Listen less to the liberals and their voices, such as the same RBC, I remember there one forecaster by the name of Demur had already predicted, already kicked out, and there were a lot of such people around the country.
  • realist
    realist 9 May 2020 07: 10 New
    +2
    however there is, real unemployment is already growing. people who 2 months ago did not want to work (for various reasons) now call the personnel department and ask to go to work. but the reception is closed, moreover, there is a reduction. if restaurants close, then those who serve them will lose all deliveries, equipment services, food suppliers ....
  • bandabas
    bandabas 9 May 2020 08: 46 New
    +3
    Well what to say. We will collectively pay for gasoline that has risen in price with solarium for cheaper oil. Wonderland!!!
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 9 May 2020 15: 02 New
      +1
      Not a wonderland, but cowards! Grandfathers contemptuously look at us from heaven. We celebrate Victory Day, which they themselves betrayed. And shame does not obscure the eyes. Only the nagging ones are capable of crying, that they have chosen the wrong one.
      Well, in '91 they could justify that they had made a fool of their heads. And now, for three decades, we have been shown our place. Is it hard to think?
      Victory Day, and yet only a sense of shame before the ancestors. The “guarantor” is hiding somewhere, either from the virus, or from us, or maybe from its accomplices.
    2. cniza
      cniza 21 May 2020 16: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: bandabas
      Well what to say. We will collectively pay for gasoline that has risen in price with solarium for cheaper oil. Wonderland!!!



      This is our country and we, unfortunately, have no other.
  • NordUral
    NordUral 9 May 2020 14: 55 New
    0
    Everything will be much worse. Judging by the affairs of my friends.
  • abvgdeika
    abvgdeika 9 May 2020 16: 05 New
    -2
    I do not understand how you can be such terpils request start moving your brains already fool
  • cniza
    cniza 21 May 2020 16: 44 New
    +2
    A number of sectors of the economy stopped operating for two months, many businesses were on the brink of ruin, and employees lost their jobs.


    Why to the brink? it was ruined and it is not possible to recover, everything must be started all over again ...