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Turkey intends to close access to Russian specialists to deployed S-400 air defense system

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Turkey intends to close access to Russian specialists to deployed S-400 air defense system

Russian experts will not have access to the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system deployed in Turkey. This was stated by the head of the Department of Defense Industry of Turkey Ismail Demir.


According to Demir, the Turkish military are deploying the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system acquired from Russia, some of its elements have already been commissioned. However, he did not specify which ones. He also did not name the timing of the final deployment of the anti-aircraft system.

The S-400 deployment process continues, and some systems have already been commissioned.

- said Demir.

At the same time, he emphasized that despite the Russian-Turkish agreement, which provides for the training of Turkish troops, as well as maintenance and support, Russian specialists will not have free access to the S-400 anti-aircraft system. Full access, according to Demir, will be available only to "Turkish companies and the Turkish Air Force."

Earlier, Ankara announced plans to deploy S-400 air defense systems in April 2020 and bring the system to full combat readiness by May-June of this year.

Recall that Russia supplied Turkey with four S-400 air defense divisions. Currently, the parties are discussing the terms of the additional supply of the Russian anti-aircraft system.
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  1. pereselenec
    pereselenec 8 May 2020 15: 49 New
    14
    Turkey intends to close access to Russian specialists to deployed S-400 air defense system

    The master is the master
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 8 May 2020 16: 11 New
      +6
      This was most likely done to soften relations in NATO, but then it will be seen when all the hype has subsided.
      1. Yar_Vyatkin
        Yar_Vyatkin 8 May 2020 16: 17 New
        +5
        Exactly. Application to mitigate the bubbling of various masses. Especially after the recent battles in Idlib, when the Turks flew in from the Russians fairly, and they blamed everything on the Syrians, which also caused seething in the guts of the "patriots".
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 9 May 2020 07: 34 New
          0
          It seems that the stupid official does not realize that the Russians have several remote
          and methods independent of the maintenance team to disable this system, ranging from programming a "missing" error to burning out the input circuits of the locators.
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 8 May 2020 16: 19 New
      17
      But now, US specialists will have free access to study
      1. cniza
        cniza 8 May 2020 18: 42 New
        +1
        So the flag in their hands, S-300 in Greece for how many years and nothing ...
        1. Roman1970_1
          Roman1970_1 8 May 2020 22: 03 New
          +6
          So the flag in their hands, S-300 in Greece for how many years and nothing ...

          So learned up and down
          1. cniza
            cniza 8 May 2020 22: 07 New
            +4
            And then after learning what?
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 8 May 2020 23: 32 New
              +2
              And then "unknown planes" in Syria bomb what is needed and when it is necessary. Including in the area of ​​action of the Syrian S-300 on alert.
        2. fider
          fider 10 May 2020 09: 57 New
          +1
          cniza
          "C-300 in Greece for how many years and nothing ..."
          So nothing? laughing
      2. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 8 May 2020 19: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: BlackMokona
        But now, US specialists will have free access to study

        It will be funny if the Americans do not find in the 400th complex, if the Turks let them dig deeper, "10 differences" from the S-300 system!
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 9 May 2020 07: 50 New
          -1
          It is excluded :: the most valuable blocks are self-destructing when trying to open them.
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 9 May 2020 08: 16 New
            -3
            Any self-destruction system can be disabled
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 8 May 2020 16: 21 New
      +3
      There already for sure specialists from the USA are screwing up with might and main, they are studying technologies! I won’t be surprised if Jews there climbed before the Yankees. ...
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 8 May 2020 17: 04 New
        20
        Quote: Thrifty
        learn technology!

        Yes, let them rustle and even try to study. Selling the S-400 to a NATO country (all the more so to such "friends" as Turkey), everyone knew very well that everyone would dig there for the purpose of studying. So, on this occasion, personally, I am not worried. Nothing significant, they won't dig up. The states buy the RD-180, but they cannot make their own. A very clear example. I will not be surprised that Russian specialists are not allowed (as an option), that they have already climbed, where they should not, and have broken something. lol
        1. AUL
          AUL 8 May 2020 18: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: orionvitt
          there, for the purpose of study, all and sundry will delve into.

          I think nothing special will break off for the states there. An export version is delivered to Turkey, the main difference from the basic one is in software, which is the main highlight of the complex. And the states have their own hardware and electronics as well.
        2. opus
          opus 8 May 2020 19: 36 New
          -3
          Quote: orionvitt
          everyone knew very well that there, for the purpose of study, everyone would delve into it.

          why then sell?
          Quote: orionvitt
          The states buy RD-180, but they cannot make their own.

          1. Oxygen-kerosene liquid propellant rocket engine, which can only be used in civilian life (if you do not return to the R-7 ICBMs) is not the main one, it’s only used by the Russian Armed Forces.
          It's like a priest and a finger ... do you really not understand the difference between a commercial liquid-propellant rocket engine, which is not used in the country by a developer / manufacturer and an air defense system, one of the most modern at the moment?
          2. The BE-4 is ready, the Raptor is ready. They will leave on Merlin too. Delta-4 flies beautifully on the RS-68A


          Quote: AUL
          An export variant is delivered to Turkey, the main difference of which from the basic one is in software

          belay
          where do these legendary firewood from the USSR come from?
          Yes, and checkmate.
          Have you watched the equipment?
          1. Cyril G ...
            Cyril G ... 8 May 2020 23: 26 New
            0
            That's life. Export appearance is formed regardless of its own. And always simplified.
            1. opus
              opus 8 May 2020 23: 59 New
              -10
              Quote: Cyril G ...
              Export appearance is formed regardless of its own. And always simplified.

              appearance is generally formed from available resources
              the country can’t do any shorts without China ..

              fuflomycin everywhere and in everything
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 08: 29 New
                +1
                Excuse me, the global division of labor, did not hear? A lot of China, for example, for export supplies military aircraft? And the ghoul of Navalny as a source is strong.

                Why aren't you up to date too? Trite worse for.
                1. opus
                  opus 9 May 2020 13: 21 New
                  0
                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  Excuse me, the global division of labor, did not hear?

                  1.Something we went down to "you". I'm not offended. Come on
                  2. As I have not heard, I use it, personally. A small "candle factory" in China, for your own needs. Shopping mall at home is not profitable.
                  3. The global division of labor is in NATO and Japan, Israel and South Korea that have joined it. On defense orders, I have not seen a "global division" Why are we Russia "globally divided" and with whom?
                  We buy civilian products in the basement from China. We make a nameplate. Made in Russia?
                  We give it out for the categories millitary (5 \ 6) and space (7), and then the LVs do not reach the calculated orbit, the GLONAS satellites fall and do not work, and the SU-57 cannot fly away from the manufacturer.
                  Yes .. it's global

                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  A lot of China, for example, for export supplies military aircraft?

                  BURNERS
                  30 pieces L-15
                  more than 200 pieces Chengdu J-7 *
                  85 pieces Chengdu FC-1 Xiaolong
                  ok 100 Nanchang Q-5
                  36 pieces Chengdu J-10
                  etc.
                  even the UAV Wing Loong, like 70 pieces bought
                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  And the ghoul of Navalny as a source is strong.

                  - not sure he's a ghoul
                  -This is not a source, it’s just dousing, it’s more fun
                  -about a scam with timati panties and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, easy to everywhere
                  1. Cyril G ...
                    Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 13: 49 New
                    +1
                    BURNERS
                    30 pieces L-15
                    more than 200 pieces Chengdu J-7 *
                    85 pieces Chengdu FC-1 Xiaolong
                    ok 100 Nanchang Q-5
                    36 pieces Chengdu J-10
                    etc.


                    Yeah of course. Over the past 20 years, not a single 4th-generation Chinese fighter has been exported. Remember. Not interesting to anyone. About the J-10 lies. Only Thunder (MiG-21 upgrade) to Pakistan, with the Klimovsky RD-93 engine, was exported. J-7 and Q-5 is if you do not know the Chinese MiG-21 and MiG-19 were delivered mainly in the 80s and 90s. L-15 is again exported with imported engines. With Ukrainian .....

                    Is this bastard? We only Hindus and only Su-30x delivered ready-made or in assembly kits for about 270.

                    PO Su-57, comparable to the Raptor. At the stage of testing and mastering the series, 2 devices were disassembled, 3 were decommissioned after damage and fires. We have 1 broken and 1 damaged and repaired ..

                    Navalny specially studied in the United States, which means a ghoul.
        3. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 8 May 2020 20: 39 New
          10
          Quote: orionvitt
          I will not be surprised that Russian specialists are not allowed (as an option), that they have already climbed, where they should not and have broken something.

          There is a joke on this topic:
          A man calls a service center
          -Hello. My printer is broken. It stands, buzzes and does not print.
          -Bring it. In the presence of spare parts, we will repair it within 3 days.
          -And you can faster? And how much will the repair cost?
          -Listen, why do you even have to wait and pay? Do your hands grow from the right place? Remove the back cover, take a Phillips screwdriver and tweezers ...
          - Tell me, does your director know that you are losing work volumes like this?
          - Actually, it’s his idea how to raise the prices for repairs.

          To Turks - success in the operation, repair and maintenance of the S-400. Everything is simple there: tweezers, a screwdriver ...
          1. Starover_Z
            Starover_Z 8 May 2020 22: 36 New
            +3
            Quote: Polite Elk
            To Turks - success in the operation, repair and maintenance of the S-400. Everything is simple there: tweezers, a screwdriver ...

            laughing good Hmmm ... I do not envy the masters of others in our electronics.
            Are there people here who met the progenitor of modern modems "Accord-M" in the distant stagnant years? With a staggering 1200 baud processing speed?
            I didn’t serve this, but I was sorting it out according to the write-off - "Drag a hippo out of the swamp!" - not otherwise.
            At least a dozen rack-mount units, from 5-6 kg to 16 each, boards with discrete elements, linked by numerous bundles, no connectors, only soldering. And everything is covered with at least 2 layers of varnish! And now go and repair in case of failure! THING !!!
        4. flicker
          flicker 9 May 2020 19: 36 New
          0
          Yes, let them rustle and even try to study
          belay That is yes. Let them study, there is KOVID-19 who just does not study and request ?
          This is a system, i.e. to understand the S-400, you must first understand the S-300, and to understand the S-300, you need to study the S-200, etc. laughing
          Let them understand, until they understand the S-700 will appear. bully
      2. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 08: 31 New
        0
        Why is it for the Turks?
    4. Civil
      Civil 8 May 2020 16: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: pereselenec
      Turkey intends to close access to Russian specialists to deployed S-400 air defense system

      The master is the master

      The owner is a member of NATO since 1952.
    5. svp67
      svp67 8 May 2020 17: 02 New
      +5
      Quote: pereselenec
      The master is the master

      The main thing is that he would pay all the money and what would spoil he was ready to repair "for a fee"
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 8 May 2020 19: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        The main thing is that I would pay all the money

        And there even though the grass does not grow, right?
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 9 May 2020 02: 41 New
          0
          Quote: Boris ⁣Razor
          though the grass does not grow

          The ancients said: Fear Danians bringing gifts!
          And now: Fear Danians who accept gifts! request
    6. Peter is not the first
      Peter is not the first 8 May 2020 20: 55 New
      +1
      The article itself contradicts itself. First:
      Turkey intends to close access to Russian specialists to deployed S-400 air defense system

      And then:
      Russian specialists will not have free access to the S-400 anti-aircraft system.

      So there will be no access at all or there will not be full access?
      I think that we do not have full access to any export product, and not just the S-400, and there are never such agreements in contracts. It is not our task to decide where the weapons sold by us will be used. Access is only needed for commissioning, maintenance and repair.
    7. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 8 May 2020 21: 57 New
      0
      Quote: pereselenec

      The master is the master

      The master is the master, the hand is the lord.
      In connection with the supply of our anti-aircraft enemy such anti-aircraft guns ---- they will deploy them against Greece, because. NATO countries have wooed their systems. ALL are unsuitable, because Under the terms of this union, all countries must maintain good neighborly relations. Therefore, 300 were swept away in due time, first where? But by the way, it’s like the M-16 in the hands of Soviet designers — you are holding it in your hands, and then what. Do you have to keep the ballistics and ergonomics?
      Anyone who relies purely on air defense without 3-4 regiments of destroyers per District or Command, is a sutrapian, because the strategy, and even more so the tactics of suppressing anti-aircraft defense, has even been demonstrated, but they don’t take anything from pick-up helmet throwers, in their opinion. In their desires, the division or system of the division is not destroyed by one successful hit of the PRR .. Yes, I can answer that the S-300 brigade can deploy coverage of the whole of Hungary, but two regiments of fighter should support it. And this is not observed now, if there is a mass take-off, then such AWACS and only 5 F-15s landed in the Baltic states and Ga-Ga-Ga !!! Only five, a record of how they fit in there))) And the fact that during these exercises in Poland 4 F-1sixteen airfields scored, and American fighters, /// and not even the National Guard, got up from neutral Finland and Sweden, not a reserve /// from a German base pulled into neutral countries and used to the fullest.
  2. paul72
    paul72 8 May 2020 15: 50 New
    +4
    Will American specialists have access?
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 8 May 2020 15: 52 New
      -4
      unlikely. They insure themselves from them
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 8 May 2020 15: 55 New
      -4
      Quote: paul72
      Will American specialists have access?

      Of course not, otherwise they would not have bought C 400 from us
    3. letinant
      letinant 8 May 2020 15: 56 New
      +7
      Quote: paul72
      Will American specialists have access?

      Of course there will be not only Americans but all, all, all. Like the Indians, whom, from time immemorial, they were led to boast of the nuclear submarine pr.971. There is only speculation that after such actions something may break and not be repaired.
    4. Yar_Vyatkin
      Yar_Vyatkin 8 May 2020 16: 18 New
      +2
      No, this is expressly stated in the agreement.
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
        Boris ⁣ Shaver 8 May 2020 20: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Yar_Vyatkin
        No, this is expressly stated in the agreement.

        We already agreed with them in one agreement, what to do with bearded uncles in the territory under their control. And these uncles, beardless ones, will be more serious, they will certainly not want to refuse the Turks.
  3. Gray brother
    Gray brother 8 May 2020 15: 54 New
    +6
    Do they know the phrase "non-warranty case"?
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      1. Kronos
        Kronos 8 May 2020 16: 08 New
        -3
        The Chinese bring their "bullshit" to mind gradually
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 8 May 2020 16: 17 New
          +4
          Quote: Kronos
          The Chinese bring their "bullshit" to mind gradually

          While they are finishing their bullshit, in Russia the S-500 is on its way.
        2. Yar_Vyatkin
          Yar_Vyatkin 8 May 2020 16: 19 New
          +7
          When they on their own, created, by the way, with the help of specialists from "A-A", will be able to shoot something down at least further than 110 km (not in advertising brochures, there is no limit to 150) - then tell us about it.
      2. Gray brother
        Gray brother 8 May 2020 16: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: Golovnyak
        Let the code crack

        Useless.
        in electronics it’s the whole thing and the whole thing

        So yes - the logic at the hardware level is protected.
        1. Golovnyak
          Golovnyak 8 May 2020 16: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: Gray Brother
          Quote: Golovnyak
          Let the code crack

          Useless.
          in electronics it’s the whole thing and the whole thing

          So yes - the logic at the hardware level is protected.

          Think All Right Gray Brother hi And you don’t need to talk and write about this anymore ..
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 8 May 2020 16: 32 New
            +6
            Quote: Golovnyak
            And you don’t need to talk and write about this anymore ..

            I can’t give out military secrets, because I don’t know nichrome. laughing
            1. Golovnyak
              Golovnyak 8 May 2020 19: 06 New
              0
              Quote: Gray Brother
              Quote: Golovnyak
              And you don’t need to talk and write about this anymore ..

              I can’t give out military secrets, because I don’t know nichrome. laughing

              But you provoke others hi wink It is so ? laughing
              1. Gray brother
                Gray brother 8 May 2020 19: 20 New
                0
                Quote: Golovnyak
                But you provoke others, right?

                If someone's hands itch on the clave to knock, then my guilt is not here, let them bear it.
                And anyway - who gives the correct answer, he will receive ten years))) And about the hardware level - so it’s gone from Soviet times.
                Some manufacturers also scoffed at this subject.
                Six hackers from different countries of the world responded to the call of the Moscow plant "Fizpribor" to try to hack security systems based on non-programmable, or "hard" logic, said the company's technical director Sergei Safonov.
                The winner must receive 3 million rubles. But hackers have no chance, said independent cybersecurity expert Vadim Podolny.

                Rigid logic was considered the rudiment of the pre-computer era, and it was remembered all over the world only now in connection with the highest hacker activity.

                Hard logic systems cannot be hacked because there are no programmable elements in it.
                Over the past decades, thanks to Fizpribor, Russia has been decades ahead of the United States, the European Union and Israel in this security sector.

                Grandmas did not have to pay.
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      3. mvg
        mvg 9 May 2020 00: 11 New
        0
        but in fact bullshit

        Vocational schools then even mastered? Or did they go on the 2nd category?
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 8 May 2020 16: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Gray Brother
      Do they know the phrase "non-warranty case"?

      By the way, now the "non-warranty case" is treated with 70% of the cost
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 8 May 2020 16: 22 New
        +6
        Quote: Tusv
        By the way, now the "non-warranty case" is treated with 70% of the cost

        Refusal of service from an authorized dealer entails withdrawal from the warranty, after which any case becomes non-warranty.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 8 May 2020 16: 35 New
        +4
        Quote: Tusv
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Do they know the phrase "non-warranty case"?

        By the way, now the "non-warranty case" is treated with 70% of the cost

        Well yes. It’s even more profitable for us.
        I welcome the Turkish decision.
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          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 8 May 2020 19: 38 New
            0
            Quote: Golovnyak
            Will roll over in the air if the US squeezes something

            Already "pressed" trying to arrange a coup.
            Now they don’t know what to do with it.
  4. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 8 May 2020 15: 55 New
    +5
    They have the right, because now it is their air defense system. But does this not mean that some of the systems will be given for study to specialists from the USA and Israel? And then even what kind of White Sands will not be? Although, when they were selling, they envisioned a similar situation and did not see anything terrible in it. Probably .. request
    1. V.I.P.
      V.I.P. 8 May 2020 17: 32 New
      +1
      On the Greek S-300s, Israeli pilots trained to bypass this air defense system. And also some of the NATO members. So, the S-400 is a good training stand for them, especially with electronic warfare systems (such as towed decoys, suspended electronic warfare containers, and all sorts of anti-radar missiles and gliding bombs can simulate attacks. The Turks will be able to test their electronic warfare "coral" ...
      1. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 8 May 2020 23: 33 New
        +1
        Well, yes, and then when shooting at the ancient Su-22, problems with the ARGSN AiM-120 got out. It happens. Cho.
  5. vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 8 May 2020 16: 06 New
    +1
    The Turks, apparently, are afraid that we have something stolen from them. I mean the secrets of the system.
  6. knn54
    knn54 8 May 2020 16: 16 New
    +1
    "Not by washing, so by rolling" - well, I really want to get the F-35 ...
  7. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 8 May 2020 16: 21 New
    +4
    But the Turks heard about undocumented features, this is not a bug, but a feature, no? laughing
  8. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 8 May 2020 16: 27 New
    +1
    "Russian specialists will not have access to the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system deployed in Turkey."
    But did someone cancel remote access to remove data from the equipment?
    1. kin
      kin 8 May 2020 16: 37 New
      +2
      Do you think Turkish experts are so stupid? Or what do you think remote access will look like?
    2. Titus_2
      Titus_2 9 May 2020 02: 35 New
      0
      I wrote about this before ... that our eyes are now in Turkey
  9. Klingon
    Klingon 8 May 2020 16: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: BlackMokona
    But now, US specialists will have free access to study

    and so what. This is a stripped-down version of "E" and probably goodies - surprises are hidden somewhere in the firmware of the chips
  10. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 8 May 2020 17: 00 New
    +1
    there will be no physical access, so it will remain on-line ...
  11. Klingon
    Klingon 8 May 2020 17: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: kin
    Do you think Turkish experts are so stupid? Or what do you think remote access will look like?

    from satellite for example. Wireless satellite Internet. Need a satellite receiver. Perhaps this can somehow be implemented through the radar
  12. Shahno
    Shahno 8 May 2020 17: 22 New
    -4
    It has analogues .... Well, if for marketers. There are several more systems (that they cannot shoot down f 16).
    Ps. Aliens can, but f 16 no way, for a conspiracy ...
  13. Old26
    Old26 8 May 2020 17: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Teberii
    This was most likely done to soften relations in NATO, but then it will be seen when all the hype has subsided.

    In any case, the access of our specialists will be closed. Even if the hype subsides. For no one will give a potential adversary access to the same system of state knowledge

    Quote: BlackMokona
    But now, US specialists will have free access to study

    The system of state knowledge is most likely the same for NATO. So yes. can gain access ... Moreover, Russia is by no means an ally for Turkey. So situational, like Iran in Syria

    Quote: Thrifty
    There already for sure specialists from the USA are screwing up with might and main, they are studying technologies! I won’t be surprised if Jews there climbed before the Yankees. ...

    It is unlikely. Turkey is not so closely connected with Israel as to enable such a study. It is possible that then the info will be shared, but then. And the one that is considered necessary

    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: paul72
    Will American specialists have access?

    Of course not, otherwise they would not have bought C 400 from us

    The purchase of the S-400 is a political step. At one time we lost the competition for the S-300 in Turkey (the Chinese won). The Americans slowed down the deal, but offered nothing in return. And Turkey's air defense is, in principle, outdated. Ancient Nike Hercules and slightly less ancient Hawks. The United States refused to supply the Patriots at that time. Turkey decided to buy from Russia. Then problems began with the F-35. But Turkey has been and remains a NATO member. so the Americans and possibly other NATO members will have access ...

    Quote: Golovnyak
    They do not know the whole system and what is in there ..

    Do you seriously believe there will be some kind of super-duper bookmarks? After all, once we have placed such bookmarks, it is enough to activate them - and that's it. It will be possible to put a big and fat cross on the sales of our equipment. No self-respecting "buyer" will buy a "pig in a poke". Who needs an air defense system that suddenly fails at the most inopportune moment?

    Quote: Gray Brother
    Quote: Kronos
    The Chinese bring their "bullshit" to mind gradually

    While they are finishing their bullshit, in Russia the S-500 is on its way.

    True, for some reason, "Chinese" bullshit is bought, and not our supercomplexes. The Chinese have a very large range of air defense systems and are gradually picking up those countries that they used to buy from us. As a result, Chinese air defense systems are supplied to a dozen countries, and our S-400 is only in Algeria and Turkey. Here is such a "bullshit" among the Chinese and our "unparalleled" S-500 is on its way
    1. D16
      D16 8 May 2020 20: 48 New
      +1
      and our S-400 is only in Algeria and Turkey

      But what about China and India?
      True, for some reason, "Chinese" bullshit is bought, and not our supercomplexes.

      They are simply not going to fight. What difference does it make that a parade rides there once a year. Moreover, it is similar to what is shown in the news. laughing
    2. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 8 May 2020 23: 35 New
      0
      Turkey will definitely not be divided with Israel.
  14. sergo1914
    sergo1914 8 May 2020 17: 49 New
    +1
    They bought it to shoot or to ride?
  15. Pavel57
    Pavel57 8 May 2020 17: 58 New
    +1
    NATO had access to both the S-300 and the S-300V of various modifications.
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 8 May 2020 19: 08 New
    +1
    Interesting information. How then will routine work from the manufacturer go? Remotely, as it is now fashionable ..............
  17. Yurahip
    Yurahip 8 May 2020 19: 53 New
    -1
    Without appropriate maintenance by the manufacturer, all of this will very soon turn into simple iron. And rightly so!
  18. Shahno
    Shahno 8 May 2020 20: 00 New
    -2
    Quote: Starover_Z
    Quote: BlackMokona
    But now, US specialists will have free access to study

    It will be funny if the Americans do not find in the 400th complex, if the Turks let them dig deeper, "10 differences" from the S-300 system!

    Yes, maybe already?
  19. Tank hard
    Tank hard 8 May 2020 22: 33 New
    +1
    At the same time, he emphasized that despite the Russian-Turkish agreement, which provides for the training of Turkish military personnel, as well as maintenance and support, Russian specialists will not have free access to the S-400 anti-aircraft system. Only "Turkish firms and the Turkish Air Force" will have full access, according to Demir.

    Will they study remotely, online? In the trend however ... laughing
  20. Old26
    Old26 9 May 2020 00: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: D16
    But what about China and India?

    You're right. Forgot Kyaty. There is still no S-400 in India. Deliveries are scheduled to begin in late 2020 early 2021. Although the contract seems to have been signed. Besides, selling to China is a step to oneself. China will make a clone, albeit with worse performance characteristics, but cheaper and will start "pushing" it ....

    Quote: D16
    They are simply not going to fight. What difference does it make that a parade rides there once a year. Moreover, it is similar to what is shown in the news.

    It is not sold in single copies, and most importantly, where our weapons have always been. And whether the Chinese complexes will fight or not - so far this cannot be predicted. In particular, the supply goes to Southeast Asia, and there will be something or not - HZ. But at least in several countries that took mainly our weapons - Myanmar, Kampuchea - now supplies are coming from China. Turkmenistan, the former Union Republic in general - Chinese air defense systems ...
  21. paco.soto
    paco.soto 9 May 2020 00: 37 New
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    I am amazed to ask: ... ... what did you turn my usual Russian into here?
    It is impossible to read this newspeak!
    Most commentators have name-calling, brats, silly distortions.
    With horror I report: (even missing "Petrosyanshchina" in the content - and different there "we will incinerate everyone, clean up, SMERSH, etc.") VO forums have long been impossible to translate literally for a foreigner (without academic dictionaries of synonyms) - and he well will not believe that these are adults communicating!
    Let's start here to express our thoughts here in Russian of educated people!
    1. Gnefredov
      Gnefredov 9 May 2020 02: 25 New
      +1
      "Hammer"
      The world is flying in tarataras.
      This is truly the voice of one crying in the wilderness.
    2. Fikys
      Fikys 9 May 2020 09: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: paco.soto
      Let's get started sdes your thoughts in Russian by educated people!

      Start with yourself, maybe the rest will catch up;)
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 9 May 2020 11: 32 New
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        Fikys, I agree - he made a grammatical mistake himself. The justification is small - he left Russia twenty years ago.
  22. ANB
    ANB 9 May 2020 02: 17 New
    +1
    Naive Turkish young man.
    Developer and will not have full access?
  23. Gnefredov
    Gnefredov 9 May 2020 02: 21 New
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    This is completely normal. The country bought equipment.
    She can and has every right to use it at her discretion.

    Everything is fair.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 08: 34 New
      0
      There are many nuances for maintenance and repair
  24. Tagan
    Tagan 9 May 2020 05: 56 New
    +4
    Quote: Zeev Zeev
    And then "unknown planes" in Syria bomb what is needed and when it is necessary. Including in the area of ​​action of the Syrian S-300 on alert.

    Are you sure that the "unknown" and that they are bombing only for the reason that they masterfully counteract thanks to full awareness? Nothing of the kind is observed in the area of ​​our air bases, although some "partners" have long been trying to poke their noses there, periodically organizing provocations.
  25. Ros 56
    Ros 56 9 May 2020 06: 08 New
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    It is not necessary for the Turks to supply anything else, the best, it will stop at an incompletely deployed system to keep them on the hook.
  26. Chingachguk
    Chingachguk 9 May 2020 07: 03 New
    +1
    It hurts. Pay for the goods, and kurochte it as you want and with whom you want! With such calculations, they sold it to the Turks! And if he gets into his screwdriver, then the warranty repair kirdyk, then everything herself, herself ......
  27. +5
    +5 9 May 2020 07: 50 New
    +1
    And before that, the axis asserted, that ours will lead as if at home?