Turkey intends to close access to Russian specialists to deployed S-400 air defense system

Turkey intends to close access to Russian specialists to deployed S-400 air defense system

Russian experts will not have access to the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system deployed in Turkey. This was stated by the head of the Department of Defense Industry of Turkey Ismail Demir.


According to Demir, the Turkish military are deploying the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system acquired from Russia, some of its elements have already been commissioned. However, he did not specify which ones. He also did not name the timing of the final deployment of the anti-aircraft system.

The S-400 deployment process continues, and some systems have already been commissioned.

- said Demir.

At the same time, he emphasized that despite the Russian-Turkish agreement, which provides for the training of Turkish troops, as well as maintenance and support, Russian specialists will not have free access to the S-400 anti-aircraft system. Full access, according to Demir, will be available only to "Turkish companies and the Turkish Air Force."

Earlier, Ankara announced plans to deploy S-400 air defense systems in April 2020 and bring the system to full combat readiness by May-June of this year.

Recall that Russia supplied Turkey with four S-400 air defense divisions. Currently, the parties are discussing the terms of the additional supply of the Russian anti-aircraft system.
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  1. pereselenec 8 May 2020 15: 49 New
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    Turkey intends to close access to Russian specialists to deployed S-400 air defense system

    The master is the master
    1. Teberii 8 May 2020 16: 11 New
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      This was most likely done to soften relations in NATO, but then it will be seen when all the hype has subsided.
      1. Yar_Vyatkin 8 May 2020 16: 17 New
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        Exactly. Application to mitigate the drilling of various masses. Especially after the recent battles in Idlib, when the Turks flew pretty well from the Russians, and they blamed everything on the Syrians, which also caused boiling in the guts of the “patriots”.
        1. hydrox 9 May 2020 07: 34 New
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          It seems that the stupid official does not realize that the Russians have several remote
          and methods independent of the maintenance team to disable this system, starting from programming a “missing” error and to burning out the input circuits of the locators.
    2. Blackmokona 8 May 2020 16: 19 New
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      But now, US specialists will have free access to study
      1. cniza 8 May 2020 18: 42 New
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        So the flag in their hands, S-300 in Greece for how many years and nothing ...
        1. Roman1970_1 8 May 2020 22: 03 New
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          So the flag in their hands, S-300 in Greece for how many years and nothing ...

          So learned up and down
          1. cniza 8 May 2020 22: 07 New
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            And then after learning what?
            1. Zeev Zeev 8 May 2020 23: 32 New
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              And then "unknown planes" in Syria bomb what they need and when they need to. Including in the area of ​​operations of the Syrian S-300s standing on alert duty.
        2. fider 10 May 2020 09: 57 New
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          cniza
          "S-300 in Greece for how many years and nothing ..."
          So nothing? laughing
      2. Starover_Z 8 May 2020 19: 58 New
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        Quote: BlackMokona
        But now, US specialists will have free access to study

        It will be funny if the Americans do not find in the 400th complex, if the Turks let you dig deeper, "10 differences" from the S-300 system!
        1. hydrox 9 May 2020 07: 50 New
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          It is excluded :: the most valuable blocks are self-destructing when trying to open them.
          1. Blackmokona 9 May 2020 08: 16 New
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            Any self-destruction system can be disabled
    3. Thrifty 8 May 2020 16: 21 New
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      There already for sure specialists from the USA are screwing up with might and main, they are studying technologies! I won’t be surprised if Jews there climbed before the Yankees. ...
      1. orionvitt 8 May 2020 17: 04 New
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        Quote: Thrifty
        learn technology!

        Yes, let them rustle and even try to study. Selling the S-400 to a NATO country (especially to such "friends" like Turkey), everyone knew that there, for the purpose of studying, everyone would delve into it. So, on this occasion, I personally do not worry. Nothing significant, they do not dig. The states buy RD-180, but they cannot make their own. A very clear example. I will not be surprised that Russian specialists are not allowed (as an option), that they have already climbed, where they should not and have broken something. lol
        1. AUL
          AUL 8 May 2020 18: 47 New
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          Quote: orionvitt
          there, for the purpose of study, all and sundry will delve into.

          I think nothing special will break off for the states there. An export version is delivered to Turkey, the main difference from the basic one is in software, which is the main highlight of the complex. And the states have their own hardware and electronics as well.
        2. opus 8 May 2020 19: 36 New
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          Quote: orionvitt
          everyone knew very well that there, for the purpose of study, everyone would delve into it.

          why then sell?
          Quote: orionvitt
          The states buy RD-180, but they cannot make their own.

          1. Oxygen-kerosene liquid propellant rocket engine, which can only be used in civilian life (if you do not return to the R-7 ICBMs) is not the main one, it’s only used by the Russian Armed Forces.
          It's like a priest and a finger ... do you really not understand the difference between a commercial liquid-propellant rocket engine, which is not used in the country by a developer / manufacturer and an air defense system, one of the most modern at the moment?
          2. The BE-4 is ready, the Raptor is ready. They will leave on Merlin too. Delta-4 flies beautifully on the RS-68A


          Quote: AUL
          An export variant is delivered to Turkey, the main difference of which from the basic one is in software

          belay
          where do these legendary firewood from the USSR come from?
          Yes, and checkmate.
          Have you watched the equipment?
          1. Cyril G ... 8 May 2020 23: 26 New
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            That's life. Export appearance is formed regardless of its own. And always simplified.
            1. opus 8 May 2020 23: 59 New
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              Quote: Cyril G ...
              Export appearance is formed regardless of its own. And always simplified.

              appearance is generally formed from available resources
              the country can’t do any shorts without China ..

              fuflomycin everywhere and in everything
              1. Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 08: 29 New
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                Excuse me, the global division of labor, did not hear? A lot of China, for example, for export supplies military aircraft? And the ghoul of Navalny as a source is strong.

                Why aren't you up to date too? Trite worse for.
                1. opus 9 May 2020 13: 21 New
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                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  Excuse me, the global division of labor, did not hear?

                  1. Why we went down to "you". I'm not offended. Come on
                  2. As I have not heard, I use it personally. A small candle factory in China for your own needs. Tk at home is not profitable.
                  3. The global division of labor is in NATO and Japan, Israel and South Korea, which joined it. On defense orders, I have not seen a "global separation". What have Russia "globally divided" there and with whom?
                  We buy civilian products in the basement from China. We make a nameplate. Made in Russia?
                  We give it out for the categories millitary (5 \ 6) and space (7), and then the LVs do not reach the calculated orbit, the GLONAS satellites fall and do not work, and the SU-57 cannot fly away from the manufacturer.
                  Yes .. it's global

                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  A lot of China, for example, for export supplies military aircraft?

                  BURNERS
                  30 pieces L-15
                  more than 200 pieces Chengdu J-7 *
                  85 pieces Chengdu FC-1 Xiaolong
                  ok 100 Nanchang Q-5
                  36 pieces Chengdu J-10
                  etc.
                  even the UAV Wing Loong, like 70 pieces bought
                  Quote: Cyril G ...
                  And the ghoul of Navalny as a source is strong.

                  - not sure he's a ghoul
                  -This is not a source, it’s just dousing, it’s more fun
                  -about a scam with timati panties and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, easy to everywhere
                  1. Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 13: 49 New
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                    BURNERS
                    30 pieces L-15
                    more than 200 pieces Chengdu J-7 *
                    85 pieces Chengdu FC-1 Xiaolong
                    ok 100 Nanchang Q-5
                    36 pieces Chengdu J-10
                    etc.


                    Yeah of course. Over the past 20 years, not a single 4th-generation Chinese fighter has been exported. Remember. Not interesting to anyone. About the J-10 lies. Only Thunder (MiG-21 upgrade) to Pakistan, with the Klimovsky RD-93 engine, was exported. J-7 and Q-5 is if you do not know the Chinese MiG-21 and MiG-19 were delivered mainly in the 80s and 90s. L-15 is again exported with imported engines. With Ukrainian .....

                    Is this bastard? We only Hindus and only Su-30x delivered ready-made or in assembly kits for about 270.

                    PO Su-57, comparable to the Raptor. At the stage of testing and mastering the series, 2 devices were disassembled, 3 were decommissioned after damage and fires. We have 1 broken and 1 damaged and repaired ..

                    Navalny specially studied in the United States, which means a ghoul.
        3. Polite Moose 8 May 2020 20: 39 New
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          Quote: orionvitt
          I will not be surprised that Russian specialists are not allowed (as an option), that they have already climbed, where they should not and have broken something.

          There is a joke on this topic:
          A man calls a service center
          -Hello. My printer is broken. It stands, buzzes and does not print.
          -Bring it. In the presence of spare parts, we will repair it within 3 days.
          -And you can faster? And how much will the repair cost?
          -Listen, why do you even have to wait and pay? Do your hands grow from the right place? Remove the back cover, take a Phillips screwdriver and tweezers ...
          - Tell me, does your director know that you are losing work volumes like this?
          - Actually, it’s his idea how to raise the prices for repairs.

          To Turks - success in the operation, repair and maintenance of the S-400. Everything is simple there: tweezers, a screwdriver ...
          1. Starover_Z 8 May 2020 22: 36 New
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            Quote: Polite Moose
            To Turks - success in the operation, repair and maintenance of the S-400. Everything is simple there: tweezers, a screwdriver ...

            laughing good Hmmm ... I do not envy the masters of others in our electronics.
            Are there people here who met in the distant stagnant years the ancestor of modern Accord-M modems? With a stunning 1200 baud signal processing rate?
            I didn’t serve this, but I sorted it out by writing off - "To drag a hippopotamus from a swamp!" - not otherwise.
            At least a dozen rack-mount units, from 5-6 kg to 16 each, boards with discrete elements, linked by numerous bundles, no connectors, only soldering. And everything is covered with at least 2 layers of varnish! And now go and repair in case of failure! THING !!!
        4. flicker 9 May 2020 19: 36 New
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          Yes, let them rustle and even try to study
          belay That is yes. Let them study, there is KOVID-19 who just does not study and request ?
          This is a system, i.e. to understand the S-400, you must first understand the S-300, and to understand the S-300, you need to study the S-200, etc. laughing
          Let them understand, until they understand the S-700 will appear. bully
      2. Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 08: 31 New
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        Why is it for the Turks?
    4. Civil 8 May 2020 16: 40 New
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      Quote: pereselenec
      Turkey intends to close access to Russian specialists to deployed S-400 air defense system

      The master is the master

      The owner is a member of NATO since 1952.
    5. svp67 8 May 2020 17: 02 New
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      Quote: pereselenec
      The master is the master

      The main thing is that I would pay all the money and that which would spoil was ready to be repaired "for a fee"
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver 8 May 2020 19: 59 New
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        Quote: svp67
        The main thing is that I would pay all the money

        And there even though the grass does not grow, right?
        1. Uncle lee 9 May 2020 02: 41 New
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          Quote: Boris ⁣ Shaver
          though the grass does not grow

          The ancients said: Fear Danians bringing gifts!
          And now: Fear Danians who accept gifts! request
    6. Peter is not the first 8 May 2020 20: 55 New
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      The article itself contradicts itself. First:
      Turkey intends to close access to Russian specialists to deployed S-400 air defense system

      And then:
      Russian specialists will not have free access to the S-400 anti-aircraft system.

      So there will be no access at all or there will not be full access?
      I think that we do not have full access to any export product, and not just the S-400, and there are never such agreements in contracts. It is not our task to decide where the weapons sold by us will be used. Access is only needed for commissioning, maintenance and repair.
    7. Thunderbolt 8 May 2020 21: 57 New
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      Quote: pereselenec

      The master is the master

      The master is the master, the hand is the lord.
      In connection with the supply of our anti-aircraft enemy such anti-aircraft guns ---- they will deploy them against Greece, because. NATO countries have wooed their systems. ALL are unsuitable, because Under the terms of this union, all countries must maintain good neighborly relations. Therefore, 300 were swept away in due time, first where? But by the way, it’s like the M-16 in the hands of Soviet designers — you are holding it in your hands, and then what. Do you have to keep the ballistics and ergonomics?
      Anyone who relies purely on air defense without 3-4 regiments of destroyers per District or Command, is a sutrapian, because the strategy, and even more so the tactics of suppressing anti-aircraft defense, has even been demonstrated, but they don’t take anything from pick-up helmet throwers, in their opinion. In their desires, the division or system of the division is not destroyed by one successful hit of the PRR .. Yes, I can answer that the S-300 brigade can deploy coverage of the whole of Hungary, but two regiments of fighter should support it. And this is not observed now, if there is a mass take-off, then such AWACS and only 5 F-15s landed in the Baltic states and Ga-Ga-Ga !!! Only five, a record of how they fit in there))) And the fact that during these exercises in Poland 4 F-1sixteen airfields scored, and American fighters, /// and not even the National Guard, got up from neutral Finland and Sweden, not a reserve /// from a German base pulled into neutral countries and used to the fullest.
  2. paul72 8 May 2020 15: 50 New
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    Will American specialists have access?
    1. Cyril G ... 8 May 2020 15: 52 New
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      unlikely. They insure themselves from them
    2. Svarog 8 May 2020 15: 55 New
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      Quote: paul72
      Will American specialists have access?

      Of course not, otherwise they would not have bought C 400 from us
    3. letinant 8 May 2020 15: 56 New
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      Quote: paul72
      Will American specialists have access?

      Of course there will be not only Americans but all, all, all. Like the Indians, whom, from time immemorial, they were led to boast of the nuclear submarine pr.971. There is only speculation that after such actions something may break and not be repaired.
    4. Yar_Vyatkin 8 May 2020 16: 18 New
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      No, this is expressly stated in the agreement.
      1. Boris ⁣ Shaver 8 May 2020 20: 05 New
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        Quote: Yar_Vyatkin
        No, this is expressly stated in the agreement.

        We already agreed with them in one agreement, what to do with bearded uncles in the territory under their control. And these uncles, beardless ones, will be more serious, they will certainly not want to refuse the Turks.
  3. Gray brother 8 May 2020 15: 54 New
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    Do they know the phrase "not a warranty case"?
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      1. Kronos 8 May 2020 16: 08 New
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        The Chinese bring to mind "bullshit" gradually
        1. Gray brother 8 May 2020 16: 17 New
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          Quote: Kronos
          The Chinese bring to mind "bullshit" gradually

          While they are finishing their bullshit, in Russia the S-500 is on its way.
        2. Yar_Vyatkin 8 May 2020 16: 19 New
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          When they, on their own, created, by the way, with the help of specialists from “A-A”, will be able to bring down something at least beyond 110 km (not in the brochures, there are 150 not the limit) - then tell us about it.
      2. Gray brother 8 May 2020 16: 14 New
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        Quote: Golovnyak
        Let the code crack

        Useless.
        in electronics it’s the whole thing and the whole thing

        So yes - the logic at the hardware level is protected.
        1. Golovnyak 8 May 2020 16: 28 New
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          Quote: Gray Brother
          Quote: Golovnyak
          Let the code crack

          Useless.
          in electronics it’s the whole thing and the whole thing

          So yes - the logic at the hardware level is protected.

          Think All Right Gray Brother hi And you don’t need to talk and write about this anymore ..
          1. Gray brother 8 May 2020 16: 32 New
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            Quote: Golovnyak
            And you don’t need to talk and write about this anymore ..

            I can’t give out military secrets, because I don’t know nichrome. laughing
            1. Golovnyak 8 May 2020 19: 06 New
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              Quote: Gray Brother
              Quote: Golovnyak
              And you don’t need to talk and write about this anymore ..

              I can’t give out military secrets, because I don’t know nichrome. laughing

              But you provoke others hi wink It is so ? laughing
              1. Gray brother 8 May 2020 19: 20 New
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                Quote: Golovnyak
                But you provoke others, right?

                If someone's hands itch on the clave to knock, then my guilt is not here, let them bear it.
                And anyway - who gives the correct answer, he will receive ten years))) And about the hardware level - so it’s gone from Soviet times.
                Some manufacturers also scoffed at this subject.
                Six hackers from around the world responded to the call of the Moscow Fizpribor plant to try to break into security systems based on non-programmable, or "tough" logic, said technical director of the enterprise Sergey Safonov.
                The winner must receive 3 million rubles. But hackers have no chance, said independent cybersecurity expert Vadim Podolny.

                Rigid logic was considered the rudiment of the pre-computer era, and it was remembered all over the world only now in connection with the highest hacker activity.

                Hard logic systems cannot be hacked because there are no programmable elements in it.
                Over the past decades, thanks to Fizpribor, Russia was decades ahead of the United States, the European Union, and Israel in this security industry.

                Grandmas did not have to pay.
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        but in fact bullshit

        Vocational schools then even mastered? Or did they go on the 2nd category?
    2. Tusv 8 May 2020 16: 20 New
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      Quote: Gray Brother
      Do they know the phrase "not a warranty case"?

      By the way, now "not a warranty case" treat 70% of the cost
      1. Gray brother 8 May 2020 16: 22 New
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        Quote: Tusv
        By the way, now "not a warranty case" treat 70% of the cost

        Refusal of service from an authorized dealer entails withdrawal from the warranty, after which any case becomes non-warranty.
      2. Lopatov 8 May 2020 16: 35 New
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        Quote: Tusv
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Do they know the phrase "not a warranty case"?

        By the way, now "not a warranty case" treat 70% of the cost

        Well yes. It’s even more profitable for us.
        I welcome the Turkish decision.
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          1. Lopatov 8 May 2020 19: 38 New
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            Quote: Golovnyak
            Will roll over in the air if the US squeezes something

            Already "pressed" trying to arrange a coup.
            Now they don’t know what to do with it.
  4. KVU-NSVD 8 May 2020 15: 55 New
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    They have the right, because now it is their air defense system. But does this not mean that some of the systems will be given for study to specialists from the USA and Israel? And then even what kind of White Sands will not be? Although, when they were selling, they envisioned a similar situation and did not see anything terrible in it. Probably .. request
    1. V.I.P. 8 May 2020 17: 32 New
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      On the Greek S-300, Israeli pilots trained to circumvent this air defense system. Yes, and one of the NATO members. So, the S-400 is a good stand for training, especially with electronic warfare systems (such as towed false targets, suspended electronic warfare containers, and all kinds of anti-radar missiles and planning bombs, you can simulate attacks. Turks will be able to test their electronic warfare coral ...
      1. Cyril G ... 8 May 2020 23: 33 New
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        Well, yes, and then when shooting at the ancient Su-22, problems with the ARGSN AiM-120 got out. It happens. Cho.
  5. vkd.dvk 8 May 2020 16: 06 New
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    The Turks, apparently, are afraid that we have something stolen from them. I mean the secrets of the system.
  6. knn54 8 May 2020 16: 16 New
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    “Not by washing, so by skating” - I really want to get the F-35 ...
  7. Lord of the Sith 8 May 2020 16: 21 New
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    But the Turks heard about undocumented features, this is not a bug, but a feature, no? laughing
  8. Black Colonel 8 May 2020 16: 27 New
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    "Russian specialists will not have access to the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system deployed in Turkey."
    But did someone cancel remote access to remove data from the equipment?
    1. kin
      kin 8 May 2020 16: 37 New
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      Do you think Turkish experts are so stupid? Or what do you think remote access will look like?
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      I wrote about this before ... that our eyes are now in Turkey
  9. Klingon 8 May 2020 16: 59 New
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    Quote: BlackMokona
    But now, US specialists will have free access to study

    and so what. This is a stripped down version of "E" and probably nishtyaki - surprises somewhere in the firmware of the chips are hidden
  10. Pvi1206 8 May 2020 17: 00 New
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    there will be no physical access, so it will remain on-line ...
  11. Klingon 8 May 2020 17: 12 New
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    Quote: kin
    Do you think Turkish experts are so stupid? Or what do you think remote access will look like?

    from satellite for example. Wireless satellite Internet. Need a satellite receiver. Perhaps this can somehow be implemented through the radar
  12. Shahno 8 May 2020 17: 22 New
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    It has analogues .... Well, if for marketers. There are several more systems (that they cannot shoot down f 16).
    Ps. Aliens can, but f 16 no way, for a conspiracy ...
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    Quote: Teberii
    This was most likely done to soften relations in NATO, but then it will be seen when all the hype has subsided.

    In any case, the access of our specialists will be closed. Even if the hype subsides. For no one will give a potential adversary access to the same system of state knowledge

    Quote: BlackMokona
    But now, US specialists will have free access to study

    The system of state knowledge is most likely the same for NATO. So yes. can gain access ... Moreover, Russia is by no means an ally for Turkey. So situational, like Iran in Syria

    Quote: Thrifty
    There already for sure specialists from the USA are screwing up with might and main, they are studying technologies! I won’t be surprised if Jews there climbed before the Yankees. ...

    It is unlikely. Turkey is not so closely connected with Israel as to enable such a study. It is possible that then the info will be shared, but then. And the one that is considered necessary

    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: paul72
    Will American specialists have access?

    Of course not, otherwise they would not have bought C 400 from us

    The purchase of the S-400 is a political step. At one time, we lost the competition for the S-300 in Turkey (the Chinese won). The Americans slowed down the deal, but offered nothing in return. And Turkey’s air defense is basically outdated. The ancient Nike Hercules and the slightly less ancient Hawks. The United States refused to supply the Patriots then. Turkey decided to buy from Russia. Then the problems started with the F-35. But Turkey, as it was, remains a member of NATO. so that both Americans and possibly other NATO will have access ...

    Quote: Golovnyak
    They do not know the whole system and what is in there ..

    Do you seriously believe that there will be some kind of super-duper bookmarks? After all, once we have placed such bookmarks to activate them, that's all. On sales of our equipment it will be possible to put a big and bold cross. No self-respecting "buyer" will not buy a "pig in a poke." Who needs an air defense system that suddenly fails at the most inopportune moment?

    Quote: Gray Brother
    Quote: Kronos
    The Chinese bring to mind "bullshit" gradually

    While they are finishing their bullshit, in Russia the S-500 is on its way.

    True, for some reason the "Chinese" bullshit is bought, and not our supercomplexes. The Chinese have a very large range of air defense systems and are gradually picking up for themselves those countries that used to buy from us. As a result, Chinese air defense systems are delivered to a dozen countries, and our S-400 is available only from Algeria and Turkey. Here is such a "bullshit" among the Chinese and our approaching "unparalleled" S-500
    1. D16
      D16 8 May 2020 20: 48 New
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      and our S-400 is only in Algeria and Turkey

      But what about China and India?
      True, for some reason the "Chinese" bullshit is bought, and not our supercomplexes.

      They are simply not going to fight. What difference does it make that a parade rides there once a year. Moreover, it is similar to what is shown in the news. laughing
    2. Cyril G ... 8 May 2020 23: 35 New
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      Turkey will definitely not be divided with Israel.
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    They bought it to shoot or to ride?
  15. Pavel57 8 May 2020 17: 58 New
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    NATO had access to both the S-300 and the S-300V of various modifications.
  16. APASUS 8 May 2020 19: 08 New
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    Interesting information. How then will routine work from the manufacturer go? Remotely, as it is now fashionable ..............
  17. Yurahip 8 May 2020 19: 53 New
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    Without appropriate maintenance by the manufacturer, all of this will very soon turn into simple iron. And rightly so!
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    But now, US specialists will have free access to study

    It will be funny if the Americans do not find in the 400th complex, if the Turks let you dig deeper, "10 differences" from the S-300 system!

    Yes, maybe already?
  19. Tank hard 8 May 2020 22: 33 New
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    At the same time, he emphasized that despite the Russian-Turkish agreement, which provides for the training of Turkish military personnel, as well as technical maintenance and support, Russian specialists will not have free access to the S-400 anti-aircraft system. Full access, according to Demir, will only be "Turkish firms and Turkish Air Force"

    Will they study remotely, online? In the trend however ... laughing
  20. Old26 9 May 2020 00: 21 New
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    But what about China and India?

    You're right. Forgot Kiiat. In India, there is no S-400 yet. It is planned to begin deliveries in late 2020 and early 2021. Although the contract seems to be signed. In addition, selling to China is a step on its own. China will make a clone, albeit with worse performance characteristics, but cheaper and begin to "push" it ....

    Quote: D16
    They are simply not going to fight. What difference does it make that a parade rides there once a year. Moreover, it is similar to what is shown in the news.

    It is not sold in single copies, and most importantly, where our weapons have always been. And whether the Chinese complexes will fight or not - so far this cannot be predicted. In particular, the supply goes to Southeast Asia, and there will be something or not - HZ. But at least in several countries that took mainly our weapons - Myanmar, Kampuchea - now supplies are coming from China. Turkmenistan, the former Union Republic in general - Chinese air defense systems ...
  21. paco.soto 9 May 2020 00: 37 New
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    I am amazed to ask: ... ... what did you turn my usual Russian into here?
    It is impossible to read this newspeak!
    Most commentators have name-calling, brats, silly distortions.
    I am horrified to report: (even missing the “Petrosyanshchina” in the content - and the different ones there “will incinerate, cleanse, SMERSH, etc.”) VO forums have long been impossible to translate verbatim for a foreigner (without academic dictionaries of synonyms) - and he’s well will not believe that it is adults who communicate!
    Let's start here to express our thoughts here in Russian of educated people!
    1. Gnefredov 9 May 2020 02: 25 New
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      "Hammer"
      The world is flying in tarataras.
      This is truly the voice of one crying in the wilderness.
    2. Fikys 9 May 2020 09: 09 New
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      Quote: paco.soto
      Let's get started sdes your thoughts in Russian by educated people!

      Start with yourself, maybe the rest will catch up;)
      1. paco.soto 9 May 2020 11: 32 New
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        Fikys, I agree - he made a grammatical mistake himself. The justification is small - he left Russia twenty years ago.
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    ANB 9 May 2020 02: 17 New
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    Naive Turkish young man.
    Developer and will not have full access?
  23. Gnefredov 9 May 2020 02: 21 New
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    This is completely normal. The country bought equipment.
    She can and has every right to use it at her discretion.

    Everything is fair.
    1. Cyril G ... 9 May 2020 08: 34 New
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      There are many nuances for maintenance and repair
  24. Tagan 9 May 2020 05: 56 New
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    And then "unknown planes" in Syria bomb what they need and when they need to. Including in the area of ​​operations of the Syrian S-300s standing on alert duty.

    Are you sure that the "unknown" and that they bomb only because they masterfully oppose due to full awareness? Nothing of the kind is observed in the area of ​​our air bases, although some "partners" have long been trying to poke their nose in there, periodically organizing provocations.
  25. Ros 56 9 May 2020 06: 08 New
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    It is not necessary for the Turks to supply anything else, the best, it will stop at an incompletely deployed system to keep them on the hook.
  26. Chingachguk 9 May 2020 07: 03 New
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    It hurts. Pay for the goods, and kurochte it as you want and with whom you want! With such calculations, they sold it to the Turks! And if he gets into his screwdriver, then the warranty repair kirdyk, then everything herself, herself ......
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    And before that, the axis asserted, that ours will lead as if at home?