What stood in the way of the extension of the Turkish Stream to Southern Europe: factors


Against the backdrop of all the recent upheavals associated with the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline (attacks on it by Poland, Ukraine’s promises to “disrupt the construction at any cost” or the spectacular maneuvers of Academician Chersky) newsrelated to the implementation of another major domestic energy project - the Turkish Stream. But still, how are things on the “southern flank” of our Gazprom’s struggle for energy exports to Europe?


Unfortunately, I have to admit: there is no news from there. Since what is happening in Bulgaria today, which at the present stage is the main “construction site” of the pipeline, is in no way new. The process, which Vladimir Putin very diplomatically called “very leisurely work” last fall, continues in exactly the same vein. Sofia’s promise to complete the plot passing through its territory by June 1 of this year will surely remain the next unfulfilled obligation on her account.

In any case, as of April, the continuation of the pipeline through which our “blue fuel” was supposed to rush to Serbia and further to the EU countries was not half ready. By the middle of last month, only 150 kilometers of 308 pipes had been welded. With the other aspects of the work, it was about the same. история. Characteristically, personal control of the construction site was not too lazy recently to exercise the Prime Minister of Bulgaria Boyko Borisov. In any case, representatives of Bulgartransgaz officially reported this. Only, apparently, it didn’t really help accelerate it.

In the same message from the Bulgarian energy company, not very encouraging figures are given: for example, a pipeline route was prepared for a length of 230 kilometers, 220 kilometers of pipes lie along trenches. Welding was carried out, as already mentioned, only 150. A trench is digging a kilometer per day, into which 900 meters of pipes are laid. How much time is needed to complete the project at such a pace (if they still exist!), It is easy to calculate - the arithmetic is simple. There can be no talk about June 1.

But a gas pipeline is not only pipes. Without the construction of compressor stations, it will not be possible to increase the fuel supply capacity from the current 4 billion to the planned 12 billion per year.

So what stood in the way of the extension of the Turkish Stream to Europe


During his visit to the construction site, the Bulgarian prime minister had the opportunity to contemplate that here the work was also “arguing”. In place of one of the stations ... already flooded the foundation! But the general director of Bulgartransgaz, Vladimir Malinov, who was relentlessly accompanying Borisov in this voyage, proudly reported to the head of government that "all work at the facilities is being carried out with strict observance of measures to prevent coronavirus."

According to the same Malinov, the fact that “all construction workers arriving from abroad” are forced to undergo quarantine at 14 days is very slow. From this we can conclude that the Bulgars themselves are dirty and callous, the little hands are not torn during excavation and welding. The general also spoke about another problem: it turns out that along the way of laying the pipeline, over 45 historical monuments were discovered along the way! All of them are now being studied most closely by specialists from the National Archaeological Institute: well, how do you find such values ​​in the earth that have some kind of gas pipeline - dust and decay? In fact, normal people conduct such surveys ahead of time, and not during the construction process ...

Also an important factor, according to Boyko Borisov, remains the payment of compensation to farmers whose land was in the way of the pipeline. They plan to restore it, and the agrarians pay 5 million leva. It also takes time. There is no doubt that when it comes to finding out the reasons for the failure to launch the “string” going to Serbia, Sofia will find a thousand and one reasons: from the “objective difficulties and problems” caused by the pandemic, to “preserving the cultural heritage” or something else the same kind.

All this could be taken with understanding if the practice of delaying, defaulting on obligations and evading responsibility would not be the "corporate style" of the Bulgarian side. We will not even recall how she “buried” the South Stream project. What is happening with Turetsky is enough - some dubious tenders for its construction and subsequent litigation that delayed the start of construction for six months were worth what! At the same time, Bulgaria itself has been receiving gas from the Turkish Stream quite well already from January 1 of this year, and at a very good price. Perhaps that’s why he “hurries without hurrying”.

Meanwhile, it became known that PJSC Gazprom had been suspended for almost a week - from May 13 to 19 there would be no fuel pumping at the Blue Stream and Turkish Stream capacities supplying gas to Turkey and further to Bulgaria. Official explanation: "Preventive work in Russia." But perhaps this is a hint to some that the coronavirus is a coronavirus, archaeologists are archaeologists, but you still need to work faster?
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  1. Mavrikiy 8 May 2020 12: 13 New
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    We, we ... angry There were contracts and agreements, beat with the left, immediately the wheel will spin many times faster. request
    1. dzvero 8 May 2020 12: 26 New
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      Litigation was started by a consortium that lost the tender. After that conversation between Borisov and Putin, the losers recalled the lawsuit.
      As for the workers and hand-painting - the hiring of a subcontractor. I won’t be surprised if they hire Ukrainians or Moldova for 300-500 euros per month without social programs, etc.
      The author did not mention the more probable cause of the possible disruption - someone’s sanction for the supply of compressors, and at the very last moment. As it turned out with SP-2 - on the last leg of the journey.
      1. dgonni 8 May 2020 13: 35 New
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        For 300-500 euros, none of the Moldovans and Ukrainians will not work. In Ukraine, the builder receives 1000-1200 killed raccoons. So if they go, then the starting minimum of 1500 euros is clean.
        1. Krasnoyarsk 8 May 2020 15: 42 New
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          Quote: dgonni
          In Ukraine, the builder receives 1000-1200 killed raccoons. So if they go, then the starting minimum of 1500 euros is clean.

          Lie do not lie. This is an advertising bouncer, and in reality half as much.
        2. Nosgoth 9 May 2020 19: 34 New
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          Oh, storytellers, to be heard :-)
          1. dgonni 9 May 2020 21: 54 New
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            Not fairy tales, but real prices. The cost of materials is equal to the cost of work. That’s the whole story. The mason on the masonry calmly lays 200+ bricks. The average cost of finishing one brick is 25 cents. Will you count his salary? Similarly with tilers and other specialists. Reinforcers and concrete workers there.
            For 10-15 dead raccoons per day in central Ukraine, the helper needs to be searched and asked to work. On the western start from 25. And this despite the fact that he is fed and watered. So it’s not a fairy tale!
      2. knn54 8 May 2020 13: 44 New
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        Judging by the pace, there may be Estonians.
      3. Oyo Sarkazmi 10 May 2020 11: 07 New
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        Quote: dzvero
        sanctions of someone on the supply of compressors, and at the very last moment.

        Gazprom does not invest a ruble in this Bulgarian gas pipeline. That's why the little thing. The Bulgarians provided themselves with gas, from the same Turkey, and now they are quite likely building themselves Bulgarian Indians so that the white sahib does not get angry.
        As for sanctions - how do you understand sanctions against Bulgarian companies building with Bulgarian money? Urine your Sahib in Ukraine to cut coupons from Naftogaz?
    2. avg
      avg 8 May 2020 13: 59 New
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      It’s time to bring the entire top of Gazprom, led by Miller, to account. In addition, how to appoint millions of salaries and bonuses do not know how. All development projects and treaties were profiled, it’s a shame to recall Russia’s gasification. Their best business project is the purchase of the Hulk. And yesterday I saw a video - the eternal flame at the monument “Kerch - Hero City” and at the end surfaced - “Gazprom ...”, I almost broke the TV.
      1. Oleg Zorin 8 May 2020 15: 40 New
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        For what? Miller faithfully followed the guidelines
        1. avg
          avg 8 May 2020 16: 24 New
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          Most of us, from top to bottom, follow someone's guidelines, and this in no way removes the responsibility of a specialist for a conscientious and professional approach to business. Or do you think that only inexperienced boys and girls gathered in the leadership of Gazprom, its Financial, Economic and Legal Departments? Then all the more, Miller and K must answer. Remember the expression of Kaganovich: "Each state of emergency has a name, a surname and a position." And what then were the "guidelines" we all remember.
          1. pytar 8 May 2020 21: 09 New
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            To dear Alexander and Oleg Zorin: As I have had and have had contacts with Russian specialists in this and other industries for many years, let me express my personal opinion! Gazprom's engineering and technical personnel are professionals of the highest, world level! There are no insurmountable tasks for them! Great respect cause! But ... how much higher in hierarchy, so worse ... And the tops carry out political tasks, often inadequate, contradictory. And in order to hide their failures, possessing colossal resources in the information sphere, they create a distorted picture of reality for society. Pay attention - they always have some "original enemies", "historical traitors" interfere, but never they themselves are not guilty! hi
      2. rotkiv04 10 May 2020 11: 26 New
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        Miller is an ordinary performer, but the guarantor didn’t give a damn again and spat in his face, but he’s not used to it
      3. Akuzenka 13 May 2020 14: 45 New
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        Honestly, we got out with our devious slogans! Attract, punish !!!! Who will punish them? You? They are in power. CAPITALISM.
    3. pytar 8 May 2020 14: 27 New
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      The author of the article, Alexander Kharaluzhny, apparently read my comments on the topic under the ego of previous stats ... bully Despite this, all the same "creatively" turned the situation around ... Okay ... And so, some clarifications:
      Unfortunately, I have to admit: there is no news from there.

      It’s just good that there is no news! The gasket is going according to plan!
      The process, which Vladimir Putin very diplomatically called “very leisurely work” last fall, continues in exactly the same vein.

      Who is in a hurry, often does not reach the end ... A bunch of examples ...
      Sofia’s promise to complete the plot passing through its territory by June 1 of this year will surely remain the next unfulfilled obligation on her account.

      The dog barks, and the caravan goes on. Bulgaria fulfills its obligations.
      But the Director General of Bulgartransgaz V. Malinov, relentlessly accompanying Borisov in this voyage, proudly reported to the head of government that "all work at the facilities is carried out with strict observance of measures to prevent coronavirus." According to the same Malinov, the fact that “all construction workers arriving from abroad” are forced to undergo quarantine at 14 days is very slow.

      The author is clearly not aware that consortium "Arcad" - Italian-Saudi. The main technical staff is Italian. The technique is Italian. Accordingly, quarantine restrictions apply, both from the side of Italy and from Bulgaria. Unfortunately, the Italians are clearly unlucky this year. 2 Italian workers died at the site due to accidents.
      The general also spoke about another problem: it turns out that along the way of laying the pipeline, over 45 historical monuments were discovered along the way! All of them are now being studied most closely by specialists from the National Archaeological Institute: well, how do you find such values ​​in the earth that have some kind of gas pipeline - dust and decay?

      The author is again unaware - Bulgaria is in third place in Europe, according to the concentration of archaeological finds. Only 3% so far studied! Before 4 weeks a sensational discovery was made on the gas pipeline! And yes some things are more important than gas, no matter how strange it may sound for representatives of a country living on the export of hydrocarbons! ! The author is clearly not aware that the Bulgarian law obliges the performers of absolutely all objects, where the provided zmlekopnye works, to execute them under the supervision of archaeologists. Therefore, all deadlines for execution, have a clause about the suspension of the deadline, for the time being the work of archaeologists. As for Serbia, it is not rich in archaeological finds.
      In fact, normal people conduct such surveys ahead of time, and not during the construction process ...

      Similar surveys are conducted during excavation work, in no other way! They do not sit on the surface, but dig in advance the track, still dig it. The project was ready before the year, how does Kharaluzhny imagine situations in general ?! He is aware that if during excavation work they find a large stationary object / fortress or something like that / you have to redesign the site and bypass the openings! In the end, the real track can vary greatly with the design! The ego is filmed geodesically and it is called an executable project - supposedly final in real execution!
      Also an important factor, according to Boyko Borisov, remains the payment of compensation to farmers whose land was in the way of the pipeline. They plan to restore it, and the agrarians pay 5 million leva. It also takes time.

      In normal democracies, land owners have great rights. They are protected by law, and the law is respected! In case of alienation, the owner can challenge the court, both the very essence of the alienation and the size of the promise! And the judge often respects the requirements of the owner. The factor is also important - as a result of the grounded restitution of the majority of Bulgarians own, cornfields, forests and so on.
      All this could be taken with understanding if the practice of delaying, defaulting on obligations and evading responsibility would not be the "corporate style" of the Bulgarian side. We will not even recall how she “buried” the South Stream project.

      You can’t remember, because you know very little about the actual situation of UP. Reading rus-media / generously sponsored by Gazprom / you get a completely distorted picture on the topic.
      ... some dubious tenders for its construction and the ensuing litigation, delaying the start of construction for six months what were worth!

      During the UP, just in violation of the laws, the construction was given without a tender ... to Gazprom ... What served the European Commission at one of the points on which the project was stopped. GDP demanded guarantees from the EC that the Balkan stream will not be stopped! To which the EC replied, it will not be if the Law is respected! Accordingly, the Bulgarian side held a tender with strict observance of all points of the law! The slowdown happened because competitors - a Russian company and Arkad filed complaints.
      At the same time, Bulgaria itself has been receiving gas from the Turkish Stream quite well already from January 1 of this year, and at a very good price. Perhaps that’s why he “hurries without hurrying”.

      Pays, gets! What is the problem? Is the price low? Yes, normal, market!
      1. Maksim 8 May 2020 15: 32 New
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        Again they don’t like something? A weak gas teleport to Serbia, where everything miraculously turns out.
        1. pytar 8 May 2020 16: 01 New
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          Ivanych, they are not guilty that they receive such distorted information. You see for yourself, an example of that ... sad
          1. Maksim 8 May 2020 23: 05 New
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            They write such articles with enviable speed. A shovel in their hands - immediately the second Pacific would be dug up. Ukrainians nervously smoke aside.
            1. pytar 8 May 2020 23: 15 New
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              One and the same as a carbon copy! A decree has been given - only bad things about Bulgaria! If not, they’ll come up! But they don’t shine with talent ... bully
              1. Maksim 9 May 2020 07: 37 New
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                Yes, what a price, the historical charmak is spinning, and at the exit we have either “they always fought against us” or “you betrayed us and joined NATO”. And as a result - "and we are the very ones - we will throw you with our farts". Stupidly all this.
          2. Oyo Sarkazmi 10 May 2020 11: 37 New
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            Quote: pytar
            Ivanych, they are not guilty that they receive such distorted information

            But they deliver the most true to you! The very one that Hitler liberated Europe, and the USSR occupied.
            UP Gazprom was going to build on YOUR MONEY for YOUR GAS. The EU did not mind building for the money of Gazprom. But he demanded to GIVE after the construction was completed to the management of the EUROPEAN COMPANY. Which pays taxes in Europe. Colonial tax, Gazprom must pay for the right to sell gas. Same thing with OPAL.
            But ...
            If you look at NEL, a complete analogue of OPAL, it is not subject to any restrictions. Gazprom’s pipe, through which Gazprom’s gas is 100% supplied to Old Europe - Holland, Belgium, France.
            And it becomes clear that Energy Packages are not directed against Gazprom. They are directed against the countries of the former socialist camp - to prevent their energy independence and industrial revival. They must buy the goods of Old Europe in order to maintain their well-being - the French, Germans, before Becksite - and the British. Bulgarians, Hungarians, Romanians, Czechs - work in Old Europe, pay taxes in Old Europe, sending money home - contribute to the sale of goods in Old Europe.
            In short, the reservation of labor reserves.
            1. pytar 10 May 2020 12: 21 New
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              But they deliver the most true to you!

              The uncritical perception of information from the kiki or from the sources, conceals the risk of being deceived. The only true criterion is the final result!
              The very one that Hitler liberated Europe ....

              I have not heard of this. Yes, it is also full of pseudo truth.
              UP Gazprom was going to build on YOUR MONEY for YOUR GAS. The EU did not mind building for the money of Gazprom. But he demanded to GIVE after the construction was completed to the management of the EUROPEAN COMPANY. Which pays taxes in Europe. Colonial tax, Gazprom must pay for the right to sell gas. Same thing with OPAL.

              In the EU, laws are passed in the interest of consumers. After all, the Russian Federation is also trying to oblige foreign companies developing their business on the territory of the federation, paying taxes in the Russian treasury?
              If you look at NEL, a complete analogue of OPAL, it is not subject to any restrictions.

              EU policy is aimed at equalizing the competitive opportunities of market participants. So that no one could get a monopoly position. This principle is not new. An example is the US case with Intel and AMD.
              And it becomes clear that Energy Packages are not directed against Gazprom. They are directed against the countries of the former socialist camp - to prevent their energy independence and industrial revival.

              This is your vision, but in reality I get gas at home 2 times cheaper than when Gazprom was a 100% monopolist in Bulgaria. It's always better to have a choice, right?
              They must buy the goods of Old Europe in order to maintain their well-being - the French, Germans, before Becksite - and the British.

              We look at the facts a lot - Bulgaria has a surplus in trade with most European countries, incl. from Germany. About 80% of our foreign trade deficit is driven by trade with the Russian Federation ...
              Bulgarians, Hungarians, Romanians, Czechs - work in Old Europe, pay taxes in Old Europe, sending money home - contribute to the sale of goods in Old Europe. In short, the reservation of labor reserves.

              Our emigrants in Bulgaria transfer an average of 1,5-2 billion euros per year. Those who are more entrepreneurial, for the money earned there, open their own business in their homeland. I have a bunch of such friends. My friend says - It’s more profitable for me to work in the West, save money and invest it in Bulgaria. To that, I gain new knowledge by working there. This is better than taking a loan to open your own company.
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi 10 May 2020 15: 01 New
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                Quote: pytar
                We look at the facts a lot - Bulgaria has a surplus in trade with most European countries, incl. from Germany. About 80% of our foreign trade deficit is driven by trade with the Russian Federation ...

                It only means that in Russia you are buying resources for your existence, and in return you have nothing to offer. Neither chemistry nor machines. Only tomatoes and peas.
                In the EU, laws are passed in the interest of consumers.

                Once again - NEL and OPAL diverge from one point - SP-1. Both have a capacity of 35 billion cubic meters per year. Both belong to Gazprom. NEL going west - has no restrictions. OPAL going south is limited to 50%.
                This is customer care, of course. About the Western European consumer. And so that the countries of Eastern Europe did not compete with them, they did not take away warm sweets.
                Your gas prices have fallen since the launch of Turkish Stream. And the gas remained 100% Russian. Or a pipe to Bulgaria from Algeria extended?
                1. pytar 10 May 2020 17: 21 New
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                  It only means that in Russia you are buying resources for your existence, and in return you have nothing to offer. Neither chemistry nor machines. Only tomatoes and peas.

                  It only means that we bought them at inflated prices, due to the lack of an alternative. On average, the price for 2019 was 2 times higher than on exchanges in Vienna. As soon as the alternative appeared, we began to differentiate sources, and prices fell. As for export, its composition smashes into the smithereens of your hardenings. Bulgaria is exporting cars, chemicals and much more. We export cars even to Germany and South Korea. Tomatoes and a pot, dumb not trending. With all this, agricultural products for 2019 were exported for 5 euros!
                  Once again - NEL and OPAL diverge from one point - SP-1. Both have a capacity of 35 billion cubic meters per year. Both belong to Gazprom. NEL going west - has no restrictions. OPAL going south is limited to 50%.

                  The EU counterbalance system is flexible. I said literally - equalizing the capabilities of competitors.
                  This is customer care, of course. About the Western European consumer. And so that the countries of the BE did not compete with them, they did not take away warm sweets.

                  It seems so! Wipe the glass, the real picture is not the same ... By the way, our people know you better. Level of support for EU membership, steadily high! 2/3 of the population - FOR!
                  Your gas prices have fallen since the launch of Turkish Stream. And the gas remained 100% Russian. Or a pipe to Bulgaria from Algeria extended?

                  The first sign was when in 2019 we bought American LNG at 30% cheaper than Gazprom. Bulgaria acquired a 25% stake in the LNG terminal in Alexandroupoli, and a gas pipeline was built to our network. A contract was signed with Azerbaijan. I don’t go into details, but prices fell mainly as a result of the EC’s pre-trial dispute with Gazprom. The monopolist gritted his teeth was forced to play by the rules of the EU.
        2. pytar 8 May 2020 17: 00 New
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          While reading comments, I noticed a decent Bulgarianophobic fake in Russian media! Right popped up in the column to staty!

          https://360tv.ru/news/mir/zhiteli-bolgarii-prizvali/?utm_medium=exchange&utm_source=lentainform&utm_campaign=news&utm_term=1257940&utm_content=8484209
          Titled Staty: Residents of Bulgaria called for "blowing up Russian monuments." The authorities disagree with them.
          What is the essence of suggestion, a decent anti-Bulgarian propaganda creation in rus-media?
          They copied a suitable sample from the “comments”, which, I am sure, 99% write the same fighter of the disinformation front! And imagine this, if not almost as the overwhelming opinion of the "residents of Bulgaria"! 100% nonsense! I don’t know why, but the Russians, for the most part, are deceiving the realities in Bulgaria! no
      2. pytar 8 May 2020 15: 50 New
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        Just for illustration, on the subject of archeology in Bulgaria. Virtually no matter where you dig, they find the remains of ancient civilizations, which existed from another 5 thousand. years BC on these lands. An example from the urban anglomerations of the two largest cities in Bulgaria: Sofia - the entire infrastructure is built by law in such a way that arch. objects that are constantly found at different levels underground.

        Here is the center, in front of the parliament, metro ...






        And here among the residential areas. The usual thing.


        Plovdiv, the very old city in Europe! Emu 5 thousand. years old! The Roman amphitheater is preserved and enclosed in infrastructure.


        So much for Bulgaria! Thousands have survived, and you say "gas pipeline" is more important ... It is unlikely that it will be in 100 years!
        1. Maksim 8 May 2020 23: 03 New
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          Well, about 5 thousand years, Plovdiv seems to be too much. Rather, they cheated a little. But what is true is truth. While we had bazaars in the cities, in the vast expanses of the current Russian Federation they chased the obyan (cross out) mammoths.
          A joke if that.
          1. pytar 8 May 2020 23: 25 New
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            Well, about 5 thousand years, Plovdiv seems to be too much.

            Not too much, not even counted a thousand. Plovdiv is a city for more than 8000 years, whose past has been traced from ancient times to the present day. The first Neolithic settlements within the borders of the current city begin from the VI millennium BC, and from the stone-copper era (IV-III millennium BC), life in the cities was not interrupted, which makes the ego one of the oldest constantly inhabited cities in the world.
            1. Maksim 9 May 2020 07: 38 New
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              Perhaps, but we certainly didn’t have a sumer and built pyramids.
              1. Oyo Sarkazmi 10 May 2020 11: 44 New
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                In the Voronezh region found a group of Paleolithic sites, Homo and Neanderthal. Kostenki, 40-32 thousand years ago. But this does not make Voronezh the oldest city on Earth. request
                1. pytar 10 May 2020 12: 49 New
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                  In the Voronezh region found a group of Paleolithic sites, Homo and Neanderthal. Kostenki, 40-32 thousand years ago. But this does not make Voronezh the oldest city on Earth.

                  Read my text again and compare. "paleontological sites" <-> and Plovdiv with an ego of 5 thousand. years of permanent urban settlement by different cultures. Some Thracians lived here 3 thousand. years constantly and created an amazing cultural masterpiece, and the Romans with their amphitheater, baths, etc. - a separate topic! Many objects of Plovdiv included in the UNESCO World Cultural Heritage List. Bulgaria is a paradise for archaeologists.
                  1. Oyo Sarkazmi 10 May 2020 15: 09 New
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                    Yes, Bulgaria is a paradise for archaeologists. Crossroads of roads North-South, East-West. But this does not mean that the village, which stood on the site of Plovdiv, was something before the conquest of the Romans. The Thracians built fortresses, but they did not become centers of craft. On the contrary, the artisans went away from the fortresses - they rob less often.
                    1. pytar 10 May 2020 16: 53 New
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                      Information about Plovdiv is from ancient times. In 342 BC the city was taken by the army of Philip II of Macedon, and the name is changed - Philipopolis. Before that - Eumolpia, Pulpudeva. The habitat of one of the most warlike Thracian tribes of demons. The first fortifications built 3,6-3,8 thousand years before Christ:

                      There is a 3D reconstruction of Filipopol, based on found arch. finds.

                      One can talk a lot about the Roman era - stadiums, thermae, amphitheaters, etc. - they can be seen walking around the city. As for the following periods, they are no less saturated. In ist. Plovdiv Museum more than 100 exhibits.
                      In general, many artifacts found in Bulgaria are impressive! Some of them put science in a stupor. For example, this plate is from an ancient Thracian grave in the village of Petelovo with Cyrillic letters that are quite hidden to us.

                      There are several of them in different regions of Bulgaria, and dated thousands of years before the appearance of the Cyrillic alphabet.
                      I already mentioned, about an amazing find made before two weeks while working on the Balkan stream. It is associated with another mystical story known in Bulgaria as "Tsarichina Dupka".
                      But this is a topic for another discussion. hi
                      1. Maksim 10 May 2020 19: 16 New
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                        Indeed, Plovdiv is in the peter of the most ancient of the currently inhabited cities of Europe.
                        As for archaeological finds - Bulgaria like Greece and Italy - where the thread is a bit tricky and immediately something pops up. And how many black diggers destroyed in the 90s, and right now they are destroying - his heart bleeds. And all the same, amazing findings pop up. One Big Kosmatka is worth something, and a Thracian grave near Starosel. Perperikon almost brought to mind. Yes, and in the Black Sea they find a lot of things - only the last find at once 40 Byzantine and Turkish ships is worth what. And here some are lamenting - they found some remains. I am surprised that only almost 50 have found. And then the pipeline route almost follows the Via Diagonalis highway at the initial stage.
      3. Kronos 8 May 2020 16: 18 New
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        Land must be state owned
        1. pytar 8 May 2020 16: 38 New
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          Land must be state owned

          Whose land should be, the People decide! In Bulgaria, the People decided that there should be several types of property, including state property. And all of them must be equal before the Law!
          1. Maksim 8 May 2020 18: 12 New
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            No, well, I am aware that the liberal media of the Russian Federation drown against us. Let’s say the matter there is clear, but it’s completely incomprehensible that the state-run media hit the Bulgarianophobia. A simple example - our prime minister wanted to spoil - the Russian Federation received a naval base in Atia, and the air force base in Ravnets and, say, Balchik, would cover the radar in Otopeni from the south so that it would not break through. For all this, they should kiss the hands / feet of the Bulgarians. And they are monuments. Such a balanced policy, when the Prime Minister, twirling around with his ears, but not substituting us, managed to avoid confrontation both in the East and in the West, and at the same time push through projects that were previously overwhelmed for political reasons - he should be praised, not covered up all the time.
            I think the results of the ZGE are already having an effect. Schoolboys are worse than any provocateurs - they sacredly believe in their own nonsense.
            1. major147 8 May 2020 19: 27 New
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              For all this, they should kiss the hands / feet of the Bulgarians.

              Come to the senses!
              1. Maksim 8 May 2020 20: 08 New
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                Come to the senses!

                Type - in nature, you prefer NATO bases on the other side of the Black Sea. Yes, no questions asked - drive grandmas and organize everything - any whim for your money.
                Seriously, you might think where you have the least problems.
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                  Seriously, you might think where you have the least problems.

                  Put the base - become a target! Forward!
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            2. pytar 8 May 2020 20: 43 New
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              No, well, I am aware that the liberal media of the Russian Federation drown against us. Let’s say the matter there is clear, but it’s completely incomprehensible that the state-run media hit the Bulgarianophobia.

              It becomes clear if we go over the chronology of events - the aggravation began in 2014. All of these "Bulgarians are traitors, always fought against us" and so on fake stamps, full of ru-forums! And earlier the Bulgarianophobic campaign was carried out, but not on such a scale. It is clear that everything is supervised from above. This is due to the geopolitical goals of the ruling grouping of the Russian Federation in the Balkans. Rapprochement with Turkey has far-reaching goals. The threat of loss and Serbia makes them rush. In this puzzle, Bulgaria with its very existence interferes with these gentlemen. As one "forum member" frankly wrote on VO, it is first necessary to inhumane this people in their eyes, to present it as a bunch of subhuman men who deserve to be destroyed! Is it familiar ...? Yes?
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                Fascists, damn it.
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                  These will stop at nothing ... I am afraid that we will have difficult times and great trials! hi
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                    As one front-line soldier said, we don’t care (s)
      4. Thank. It is nice to read a direct observer, not a "broad profile author."
      5. ser56 8 May 2020 20: 25 New
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        The gasket is going according to plan!

        those. will you have time before June 1? Or are there other plans? hi
        everything else is the builders' problems - how to buy land or conduct archeology ... when the plans were made, you had to think request
        1. pytar 8 May 2020 21: 46 New
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          those. will you have time before June 1? Or are there other plans?

          In my estimation, by June 1 there is a chance to finish the main work. But no one said that the object will be put into operation before this time! The Prime Minister and the Minister back in October of the 19th year, announced that they were expecting decommissioning by late autumn and even by the end of 2020! By the way, delays from the side of the Russian subcontractor periodically happen ...
          everything else is the builders' problems - how to buy land or conduct archeology ... when the plans were made, you had to think

          All agreements have clauses on the so-called force majeure circumstances. Even during the tender, participants present a detailed analysis of potential risks and methods for overcoming them. This is included in the estimated value of the offer. From natural disasters, to health problems for workers, etc. etc. But to foresee everything is impossible! It would be possible Rogozin would walk on the moon! At the beginning of 2019, no one could have thought that a pandemic would break out, or that archaeologists would find so many artifacts, some of them of world significance! When choosing a route, consider the famous or alleged archaeological zone. But what’s under the ground there, of course no one knows! Bulgaria is phenomenal in relation to the wealth of historical layers! Plans are built on the basis of the known and imagined, but reality often brings surprises! There are such a lot in bulk! In fact, there is no reason to be in a hurry, gas prices are record low, and Europe is oversaturated with gas.
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            Quote: pytar
            in operation before this time!

            What is the terms of the contract?
            Quote: pytar
            by so-called force majeure circumstances.

            voiced by them do not fall under them ... request except for a pandemic ...
            Quote: pytar
            Rogozin would walk on the moon!

            But did he set such a task? bully

            Quote: pytar
            ! Bulgaria is phenomenal in relation to the wealth of historical strata

            be surprised when the Crimean bridge was built, excavated, but did not violate the deadlines ... hi And there are ancient Greek settlements
            1. pytar 8 May 2020 22: 53 New
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              What is the terms of the contract?

              615 calendar days. But there is a lag, that's a fact. How subcontractor Arkad attracted the Russian IDC! The one that troil the Turkish stream.
              under them / force majeure circumstances / the voiced ... do not fall ... except for a pandemic ...

              Hit. During archaeological excavations, the terms are reset. In the statistics indicated - excavations are performed by specialists of the National Archaeological Institute. Make up adm. acts to stop the facility. About state of emergency, you are right. The quarantine law is passed by parliament.
              and he / Rogozin / set such a task?

              Of course I will exaggerate, although he promised a lot of things, what has not been done and not only him. Here is the Severna cosmodrome, not yet completed, and the timing for adoption of the Armata, Su-57 is constantly shifting. There are lots of articles here!
              be surprised when the Crimean bridge was built, excavated, but did not violate the deadlines ... And there are ancient Greek settlements

              Surprise, but on the territory of Bulgaria, the oldest Neolithic civilization in Europe was found - 8 thousand. years ago was. Then Thracian civilization, Roman, medieval Bulgarian. Fortresses, ancient temples, temples, vesde. Only Thracian tombs and graves in Bulgaria have more than 60 thousand. !!!! Near Varna, the oldest gold processed by man was found on Earth. Another thing they argue with is who is older, found in North-West Bulgaria, just near the BP highway. The list of discoveries is huge. And this, according to experts, is only 4% of the existing underground. Bulgaria is a fantastic treasure treasure. As an example, I was a schoolboy, I dug it only once. Shallow - probably half a meter and found a pair of copper coins of the eleventh century. I like to walk in nature, not looking for anything special, I found in a poverty under one rock rusty iron remains of arrows, chariot wheels and some clay dishes. He reported that archaeologists came and now they are sitting in a museum. Where I live, after each thunderstorm, metal detectors enter the field. Often find coins or something else. I did a water pipe repair in front of my house. Found some very rare gold Roman coins. They were written about them even in foreign media. And the country is small, only 110 thousand square meters. km.!
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                Quote: pytar
                even though he promised a lot of things, what was not done and not only him. Here is the Severna cosmodrome, not yet completed, and the timing for adoption of the Armata, Su-57 is constantly shifting. There are lots of articles here!

                funny, the Bulgarians cannot build a banal gas pipeline of 300 km, but they will teach Russians how to build a spaceport or make a 5th generation fighter ... recourse
                Quote: pytar
                Surprise, but on the territory of Bulgaria, the oldest Neolithic civilization in Europe was found - 8 thousand. years ago was.

                you have fame in the past ... request but you are replacing the topic - the strip under the gas pipeline is 100m ...
                1. pytar 10 May 2020 00: 52 New
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                  Really funny! lol You managed in a few lines, write a bunch of inaccurate things!
                  funny, 1. the Bulgarians 2. cannot build a banal gas pipeline of 300 km, 3.a will teach the Russians how to build a spaceport or make a 5th generation fighter ...

                  1. Not "Bulgarians", but I! yes I am based on numerous publications in Russian media, including here in VO. In Bulgarian media, this is an episodic topic. Little interest to readers.
                  2. The Saudi-Italian consortium Arkad is building a gas pipeline, and the Russian company IDC is a subcontractor. Build, don’t worry ... yes In Bulgaria, the total length of the gas network is several thousand km. Most of the built bulg. firms.
                  3. Do not teach in any way. I just quote the opinions of Ross. mass media.
                  you have fame in the past ...

                  We do not need glory. We have everything. fellow Bulgaria is a very beautiful country. love
                  but you are replacing the topic - the strip under the gas pipeline is 100m ...

                  Here in this narrow strip ALREADY found 45 arch. object! You can imagine what it is all over the country, and how carefully digging works with all types of work. bully
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                    Build, don’t worry ..

                    yes it is violet to me bully it is you that raise the theme of events in our country ... laughing
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                    We will not teach in any way. I just quote the opinions of Ross. mass media.

                    extremely selectively, which indicates your focus on looking for fleas in Russia ... request
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                    We do not need glory.

                    I’m talking about this ... request
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                    We have everything.

                    why are people running? repeat
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                    and how carefully digging works with all types of work.

                    as I understand it, the archaeological mafia of the grandmother is chopping ... bully
                    1. pytar 10 May 2020 19: 08 New
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                      yes it’s violet to me ...

                      Violet is a symptom! The condition may worsen to ultraviolet. bully
                      it is you that raise the theme of events in our country ...

                      I’ll only tell you one secret - it and my country ... wink
                      extremely selectively, which indicates your focus on looking for fleas in Russia ...

                      Allow only that more than a sparrow? laughing I forgot to ask you for sure, I'm afraid I will forget again ... yes
                      why are people running?

                      Who is running? Where is running belay
                      as I understand it, the archaeological mafia of the grandmother is chopping ..

                      Where grandmothers, there is the mafia. I’m not hinting at the budget of one great country .... yes
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                        worsens to ultraviolet.

                        the spectrum can still go far - to hard X-rays ... bully
                        By the way, are you a doctor?
                        Quote: pytar
                        she and my country ..

                        then update the flag ... request

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                        I forgot to ask you for sure, I'm afraid I will forget again ...

                        Did I demand permission? I stated your focus ...
                        Quote: pytar
                        Who is running? Where is running

                        fooling around? people from Bulgaria, where everything is ... hi
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                        the spectrum can still go far - to a hard x-ray ... by the way, are you a doctor?

                        And there on the spectrum there is no longer to live long ... Spouse is a doctor.
                        then update the flag ...

                        It is necessary to put both near. The idea is good!
                        Did I demand permission? I stated your focus ...

                        Clear. You stated on the basis of your subjective focus.
                        fooling around? people from Bulgaria, where everything is ...

                        Some work in EU countries, where salaries are higher. Retaining Bulgarian citizenship.
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                        Quote: pytar
                        Spouse is a doctor.

                        do you have a family license? bully
                        Quote: pytar
                        You stated on the basis of your subjective focus.

                        not based on my (of course subjective) analysis of your messages request
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                        in EU countries where salaries are higher


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                        Retaining Bulgarian citizenship.

                        it's funny ... wink
                        Quote: pytar
                        Who is running? Where is running

                        Quote: pytar
                        We have everything

                        you know, it's hard to understand request can you figure it out inside yourself, and you won’t teach Russians how to live and what to write on their forums? hi
                        Quote: pytar
                        All these "Bulgarians are traitors, always fought against us" and so on, false stamps, are full of ru-forums!

                        1) by the way, about stamps - it’s always not always, but after gaining independence, Bulgaria fought on the side of the enemy coalition in the 1st and 2nd MB, now in NATO ... if it's not a secret - where are the “fake stamps”?
                        2) If it’s not a secret, the use of such stamps as - "RUforums "
                        Quote: pytar
                        в RU-media, inclusive, and here on VO. In Bulgarian mass media
                        ., do you think is normal?
                        and at the same time gutar:

                        Quote: pytar
                        it is first necessary to inhumanize this people in their eyes, to present it as a bunch of subhuman, deserving of destruction! Is it familiar ...?

                        so look in the mirror ... hi
                      5. pytar 11 May 2020 17: 28 New
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                        do you have a family license?

                        General-license! On the topic of "purple," I write what she will say. laughing
                        not based on my (of course subjective) analysis of your messages

                        We are all subjective. Exchange of opinions is important. Though hardly someone else to convince.
                        it's funny ...

                        We clearly have different concepts of humor and not only.
                        you know, it’s hard to understand, you can figure it out inside yourself, and you won’t teach Russians how to live and what to write on their forums?

                        You know - it is surprising that it is difficult for you to understand simple things! Expressing opinions of Bulgarian forum users on topics about Bulgaria that differ from yours is not a violation of the rules of the site. This is not a teaching. Many thank me in PM and in the open, for alternative info on situations!
                        1) by the way about stamps ... Bulgaria in 1 and 2 MB fought on the side of the enemy coalition, now in NATO ... if it's not a secret - where are the "fake stamps"? 2) If it’s not a secret, the use of such stamps as - "ru-forums"

                        The secret to sampling facts is out of context events. Further your lines are the same.
                        so look in the mirror ...

                        Who teaches whom again? Sergey, the dialogue has lost information. Bye Bye... hi
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                        Though hardly someone else to convince.

                        I don’t even set such a goal, it simply amuses the snobbery of citizens of superpowers such as Bulgaria, Estonia or Ukraine, who allow themselves to teach ... repeat
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                        We clearly have different concepts of humor and not only.

                        No doubt... request
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                        This is not a teaching

                        you again quote a set of stamps from your message? bully
                        Quote: pytar
                        for alternative info on situations!

                        it’s always better to know different points of view ...
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                        The secret to sampling facts outside the context of events

                        Have I not made a selection of these facts from your posts in this thread? you raised the topic - why? and now into the bushes ... bully we really have a different sense of humor ... hi
                        Quote: pytar
                        Who teaches whom again?

                        you started - got the answer ... request
  • New Year day 8 May 2020 12: 22 New
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    perhaps this is a hint to some that the coronavirus is a coronavirus, archaeologists are archaeologists, but you still need to work faster?

    on February 6 of this year
    In 2019, Gazprom’s deliveries to the Turkish market fell catastrophically - by 8 billion cubic meters, to 14,4-14,8 billion cubic meters.
    Blue Stream (a gas pipeline worth $ 3,4 billion belongs to Blue Stream Pipeline BV - a joint venture of Gazprom and the Italian corporation ENI - a joint venture) is idle unloaded by a third. 10,3-10,6 billion cubic meters were delivered through it, while the capacity of the “pipe” allows pumping 16 billion cubic meters of gas per year.
    For the first time in 13 years, Turkey left Gazprom’s top three major foreign buyers - it launched the TAP gas pipeline, through which gas from the Shah Deniz field in the Caspian Sea goes to Turkish Erzurum, and from there to Greece. This pipe allowed Turkey to immediately increase by 1,9 billion cubic meters (29%) of imports from Azerbaijan.
    Therefore, Bulgaria just looks at how it will all end, so as not to miscalculate with a gas supplier
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      For the first time in 13 years, Turkey left Gazprom’s top three major foreign buyers - it launched the TAP gas pipeline, through which gas from the Shah Deniz field in the Caspian Sea goes to Turkish Erzurum, and from there to Greece.

      If I had carefully studied everything related to this game, then I would have known that we went through this in 2002:
      July 17 2002, 09: 24
      Turkey reduces gas demand
      The Turkish state pipeline company BOTAS has once again reduced its estimates of the country's needs for natural gas
      The Turkish state pipeline company BOTAS has once again reduced its estimates of the country's natural gas needs. Information about this appeared on the company's website without any comment.Over the past eight months, BOTAS is revising its forecasts for the fourth time. Judging by its refresh-estimates, in 2003 Turkey would “burn” not 31,627 billion cubic meters of gas, but 27,278 billion, that is, 13,75% less than expected.

      The current situation is only a consequence of the decline in production not only in Turkey, but also in Europe, where they already pay a penalty for refusing American LNG. Do you think that in this situation Turkey should increase gas purchases from Russia? They just wait, and this is their whole game, although they have been feeding the idea of ​​becoming a gas hub since those times:
      In other words, Turkey has not abandoned its ambitious plans to become the energy center of the region. But not only she claims for this role. As Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Hussein Adeli said the other day, "Iran intends to become a center for the distribution of hydrocarbons to international markets."

      https://neftegaz.ru/news/finance/318584-turtsiya-umenshaet-potrebnosti-v-gaze/
      So wait and see what Turkey will bargain for.
  • iouris 8 May 2020 12: 29 New
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    Yes "pipe business." To build gas pipelines to the enemy at their own expense and to supply gas on the terms of the enemy means to sign a sentence. Such a debtor is simply obliged to think about how to get rid of the "dictate of Gazprom", and to do everything so as not only not to pay, but also to take property.
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    Yeah, you will lead ahead of time on a site of such length a full-fledged archaeological exploration, how about ... We also conducted a Kerch route, and according to our standards (and in the Russian Federation they are tougher), but one fig.

    Given how many things there have lived at all times - a couple of times you have to go around the monuments with a gas pipeline, and this is not a bureaucratic whim, before you had to think more deeply.
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    Well of course the curvature of the earth laughing
  • Vitaly Tsymbal 8 May 2020 13: 05 New
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    I read the article and think - poor, poor Gazprom, poor Miler - how can I help them, especially on self-isolation? But came up with !!!! laughing And I will give Miller, through the volunteers, a grocery set, well, a kilo of cucumbers, a kilo of onions, a pack of buckwheat and millet, a little salt ... But I will not pass condensed milk and sugar, otherwise I will catch moonshine and drink it from Gazprom's grief drinks I’m not worried about Miler - he’s an adult man, but about his children and grandchildren ... laughing So thanks to the personal author, I did not allow me to die in me kind and humane under the conditions of self-isolation wassat
    1. iouris 8 May 2020 13: 07 New
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      As if we ourselves did not have to pay for these "AshyPki".
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal 8 May 2020 13: 14 New
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        And what to take with me? I can give way to the poor VIP VIP managers of Gazprom to take the test for the presence of coronovirus (though no one has offered me yet), but I don’t think about myself, I'm worried about people from the Gazprom administration! crying And AshyPki is a trifle, the main thing is that the SOP soul has not become stale !!!!!
  • Vincenzo 8 May 2020 13: 14 New
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc7MqfvHCQQ&t=151s
    This is what happens on one part of the route !!!
    The article is pathetic !!! There is simply a problem with Italian workers due to 14-day quarantine !!!
    1. pytar 8 May 2020 14: 34 New
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      You are right! Staty, as well as most similarities in Russia, distort the real picture. hi
    2. Normal ok 8 May 2020 16: 13 New
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      Quote: Vincenzo
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc7MqfvHCQQ&t=151s
      This is what happens on one part of the route !!!
      The article is pathetic !!

      This is the corporate identity of Haraluzhny. He writes about everything, and articles, in fact, about nothing. Leaves on "patriotism".
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        This is the corporate identity of Haraluzhny. He writes about everything, and articles, in fact, about nothing. Leaves on "patriotism".

        Yes, it would be only him, let’s wave from his hand ... All ru-no and media filled with such tales! no
      2. They say the Northerner had a motto:
        - not a day without a line!
        I wonder what the motto of Haraluzhny?
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          The mottos here are hardly ... Rather, material interest.
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    In general, a strategist from Putin, as a ballerina from Valuev. Solid failures rather than HPP.
    With the northern stream of seams, the southern one was covered, with the Turkish problem, the oil war ended in defeat. What is he thinking about in his bunker now, I wonder?
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      What is he thinking about in his bunker now, I wonder?
      About self-isolation up to 24 years .......
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        About self-isolation up to 24 years.

        And at the same time isolate us. It is expected that the non-quarantine will be extended after the holidays.
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        I wish I took all my friends to my bunker. That would not be bored.
        And then we will love him, but remotely.
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    Bulgaria, of course.
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      In principle, a country like Bulgaria was written before 1398. Right now it’s known what is needed as Bulgaria or Bulgaria.
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    Russia was again trapped ...
  • Ryaruav 8 May 2020 15: 26 New
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    and there was no other way out and that the Greeks that the Bulgarians of the NATO country are under the heel of the United States, countries that are not able to conduct an independent policy, many African countries and even more
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      and there was no other way out and that the Greeks that the Bulgarians of the NATO country are under the heel of the United States, countries that are not able to conduct an independent policy, many African countries and even more

      You pull gas to the European Union, right? Well then, be kind to comply with EU Laws! But when to Africa, then deal with the Africans! You, for some reason, the laws in force in other countries do not suit you! On the territory of the Russian Federation, are the laws of Russia? Yes? Can someone in the Russian Federation act not according to Russian laws, but according to their own laws? Nope ..!
  • borys 8 May 2020 17: 18 New
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    For pytar.
    You are right that the gas pipe goes to Europe. Only thing in
    that Europe needs this gas. If Europe will buy
    American gas, it will just be a little (and maybe a lot)
    poorer. There is such a simple thing called objective reality.
    It consists in the fact that there is gas in Russia, and there is a lot of it. Further.
    Europe’s purchase of Russian gas is the most profitable
    option for Europe. Unfortunately, it spoils the matter shortly-
    Gazprom’s visibility, greed and indecision. Would be
    they are smarter and more resolute, you would talk less about European
    rules and more respected Russian rules.
    1. pytar 8 May 2020 17: 44 New
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      You are right that the gas pipe goes to Europe. The only thing is that Europe needs this gas.

      Dear Boris, hi business always means mutual interest!
      If Europe buys American gas, it will just be a little (or maybe a lot) poorer.

      But with this, the situation is a bit different! American gas is more expensive at cost, but this does not mean that it is more expensive in the markets! The problem for the EU and in particular for Bulgaria is that Gazprom occupying a monopoly position, twists our hands and raises the price, forcing us to sign unprofitable agreements! American and any other gas creates competition, which reduces the total cost of gas for consumers in the European Union. Without competition, it could not have happened! As an example, as a result of the launch of the terminal from Greece, we bought LNG at 30% cheaper than Gazprom. Since the beginning of the year, prices for consumers in our country have declined from NG by 5%, from April 1 by 46%, from May by another 6,7%. They switched to short contracts with Gazprom, and besides, he returned to us the overpaid money from the previous long contracts. Without competition, nothing would have happened!
      There is such a simple thing called objective reality. It consists in the fact that there is gas in Russia, and there is a lot of it. Europe’s purchase of Russian gas is the most profitable option for Europe.

      The objective reality is this - there is a lot of gas in the world, but a lot does not mean cheap if there is no competition! Otherwise, you won’t force the monopolist to lower the price! Therefore, Europe will strongly support the principle of ongoing competition! Even if you have to artificially align the capabilities of suppliers!
      Unfortunately, the shortsightedness, greed and indecision of Gazprom's spoils the matter. Would they be smarter and more determined

      With this judgment, I agree 100%! You are right!
      You would talk less about European rules and more respect for Russian rules.

      There are European laws in the EU. On the territory of the Russian Federation, Russian! It’s strange if someone demands respect for their rules on someone else’s territory!
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    Quote: Vincenzo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc7MqfvHCQQ&t=151s
    This is what happens on one part of the route !!!
    The article is pathetic !!

    This is the corporate identity of Haraluzhny. He writes about everything, and articles, in fact, about nothing. Leaves on "patriotism".

    “Hit in patriotism - then steal” (c)
  • borys 8 May 2020 20: 22 New
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    For pytar.
    Europe is not concerned with the principle of free competition. She has long been
    and steadfastly hates Russia. For a large territory, for strength
    and generosity and much more for that. These are all formal nit-picking.
    Gazprom's monopoly has natural causes, and that too
    objective reality. In general, the enthusiasm of the young
    Europeans, regarding their admission to Europe. Indigenous europe
    considers you neither equal nor worthy, and just uses
    for their needs. You may be offended by my words, but it
    exactly.
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      Europe is not concerned with the principle of free competition. She has long and steadfastly hated Russia.

      This is a simple explanation for an ordinary browser who does not understand the matter. Such irrational hatred, you see ... People find it easier to accept an elementary explanation. The essence is about economic interests, and competition is the engine of the economy. I will express an seditious thought - if in the Russian Federation there was competition / economic, political /, and everything would have been much cheaper for you!
      For a large territory, for strength and generosity, and much more for that.

      In modern times, it is not necessary to physically own this territory. Natural wealth has not belonged to the people for a long time. Are you aware that, for example, Gazprom has Rothschild shares? And many other world financial sharks.
      Gazprom’s monopoly has natural causes, and this is also an objective reality.

      I strongly doubt the naturalness of Gazprom’s monopoly, but it’s a reality, yes ...
      In general, the enthusiasm of the young Europeans regarding their admission to Europe is surprising.

      There is nothing surprising - the EU, although not without a jamb, is the most successful unification of European peoples in history. It is voluntary, no one forces anyone! If desired, everyone can wipe! East Europeans are not "young Europeans"; they are Europeans like others.
      Indigenous Europe does not consider you equal or worthy, and simply uses it for its needs.

      Indigenous Europe, this is the space from the Atlantic Ocean to the Urals and from the Arctic Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea. All who live here for centuries are native Europeans! The EU is an alliance responding to the interests of all the countries participating in it. Whoever thinks otherwise comes out.
      You may be offended by my words, but this is exactly so.

      I do not take offense, because it is absolutely not so. I can compare, I lived for a long time in different systems.
  • Allax 10 May 2020 12: 11 New
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    Yes nafig generally contacted with these Bulgarians? Has the story of the abandonment of the South Stream really taught nothing to anyone?
    1. pytar 10 May 2020 13: 04 New
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      Yes nafig generally contacted with these Bulgarians? Has the story of the abandonment of the South Stream really taught nothing to anyone?

      It was impossible "with these Bulgarians" contact ... It was necessary ... with whom? With the Martians? yes Will a pipe go through Mars? It was necessary to call Rogozin for help! lol
      1. Maksim 10 May 2020 19: 20 New
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        Quote: pytar
        "with these Bulgarians"

        So others have not delivered yet than the rich (s) laughing
    2. Vincenzo 10 May 2020 13: 39 New
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      Your GDP has stopped the UP project.
      Stupidity and greed always lead to a bad end !!! Although a small country, Bulgaria is part of a major political and economic project of the EU. And you don’t like this fact at all !!! But you should always consider this fact if you want to have normal relations between Bulgaria and Russia !!! No matter how "great and irresistible" the leader is, GDP !!!
      1. pytar 10 May 2020 17: 30 New
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        Mnogohodovki the more insidious that they can get confused mnogohodovik ... lol A strategy not conceived with realities is doomed to failure. yes Of course, according to propagandists - in this case, it’s not the strategist who is to blame, but reality ...
  • Kostadinov 14 May 2020 14: 40 New
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    What stood in the way of the extension of the Turkish Stream to Southern Europe: factors

    Only one factor stood in the way of the flow - the USA.
    No need to ask Wang - and so it can be foreseen that the United States will impose sanctions when to complete the pipeline. This is their favorite method - when all the spending money is stopped and inflicted maximum damage.
    To overcome the US factor, there is only one way - they change the geopolitical orientation of Bulgaria. This is possible, but only if the people who do it get strong support from Russia.
    Not help - but support when they hit the country with all the force of sanctions. For Russia, sanctions are only an inconvenience, but for a small country without resources they can be fatal. When the United States blocks a country, you need to have someone to trade with, something to buy, including weapons if necessary.