Our epidemic future and its causes

Our epidemic future and its causes

At the moment, 06.05.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX, it is already obvious that according to the results of the coronavirus pandemic, Russia will be in an honorable second place in the total number of cases, losing only to the eternal enemy - the United States. In this article I will try to selectively analyze the reasons for this almost a fact.


So, today the increase in the number of cases is more than 10000 per day with a tendency to increase. How viciously they joke on the Internet: “The plateau has tipped.” So why did this happen? Indeed, by April 28-29, officials began to timidly declare that there would be no further increase in the incidence, and 6-7 thousand cases a day would become the peak that everyone had been waiting for so long.

According to a study by the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health, the average incubation period for coronavirus is 5-6 days. In addition, a couple of days is necessary for a person to sound the alarm and turn to medical institutions, a few more pass until the test results are received. So what happened 10-15 days before the sharp increase in the incidence on April 29-30?

Firstly, the Orthodox Easter happened. I think that every reader of Military Review saw photographs of people who filled the temples and kissed the icons.

Secondly, on April 15 there was a pandemonium in the Moscow metro, which occurred due to the introduction of passes. Anyone who has been to the Moscow metro at least once does not need to explain that there, even without checking the pass of each person entering, it is far from empty in the passages, and then suddenly such an opportunity ...

In addition to these two events in Russia, spring happened. Yes alas. In the courtyard of the author’s house, the management company carefully shook the slides and swings with a striped ribbon, posting threatening proclamations about complaints to Rospotrebnadzor. The lifetime of the tape was not even two days. So since then this war has been going on - every few days the Criminal Code winds up the playing field with tape, and every few days hordes of children without masks in the company of their parents tear off the tape in order to taste the forbidden fruit, which, as you know, is very sweet, and this despite the fact that in one of the entrances of the house confirmed the case of coronavirus.

Another thing that I want to note from personal experience: a complete lack of compliance with the distance. In a mask, without a mask, in a store, on the street - there is no impulse to stay away, 80% of our citizens are imperceptible. Even at the nearest store, sellers wear masks on their chins. It’s probably more comfortable to breathe.

As the last reason, I note that people simply and corny go to work, because no real help to entrepreneurs and workers was allocated. Probably everyone heard that they promised to give small and medium-sized businesses a minimum wage for each employee? And they gave out. Not only to everyone, but from the “affected sectors”. And if, for example, you work in a small KB, then you should not, because you do not suffer from a coronavirus at all.

So, with the reasons for the increase in the incidence (everything said is the personal opinion of the author) figured out. But what led to the appearance of these reasons?

I dare say that everyone is to blame. On the one hand, it is completely incomprehensible why the authorities could not close the churches. There are so far fewer temples in our country than there are policemen. Put on Easter one at each church with an order to fine those who enter - and you will collect money in the local budget, and you will send people home to observe self-isolation. Why has this not been done? Maybe local administrations did not want to quarrel with the church, or maybe the fact is that the competence did not have enough to predict the faithful’s visit to churches for Easter, no one expected crowds in the metro after the introduction of passes. So now we have what we have. On the other hand, the people, seeing the inadequacy and weak effect of the measures taken, do not really want to comply with them, especially since there is practically no help from the people who take these measures, and this behavior exacerbates the situation.

Now a few words about what awaits us. The next step on the part of the authorities is likely to be the tightening of existing measures. Because it is ripe. Perhaps such tightening will have an effect. About three to four weeks later. And over these weeks, many people will run out of money corny, and people will go look for any job that they just turn up, spit on any risks and fines.

Therefore, it remains, as always, to rely on chance. Maybe it’s blowing, maybe solar radiation in the summer begins to kill the virus or mutates it so that it becomes the best friend of a person, and, perhaps, good American / Russian / Chinese scientists will prick everyone with the free vaccine the day after tomorrow. All except antivirals. The vaccine, of course, will be administered orally.

PS According to the author, at the end of March it was necessary to put the whole country in general quarantine with the introduction of emergency situations for three weeks and full compensation of salaries from the reserve fund, plus the introduction of such fines so that even the oligarchs would crack the budget. It would be cheaper than the current "self-isolation" with the slow death of the business.
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  1. Uncle lee 8 May 2020 06: 20 New
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    believers in temples on Easter, crowds in the subway
    Especially touches kissing icons and people in the subway at a "safe distance!
    1. Lannan Shi 8 May 2020 08: 09 New
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      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Especially touches kissing icons and people in the subway at a "safe distance!

      The main route of transmission of viral infections is congestion. The main crowds are public transport, large shops and large enterprises. If through which cafe, even a large one, a couple of hundred people pass in a day, then through a large store there are five thousand. Through the hairdresser, a hundred, and through the metro tens of millions. Those. secondary crowded places are closed, and the main ones are working hard. Insanity thrives and smells. Yeah.
      1. Stas157 8 May 2020 08: 46 New
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        At the moment, 06.05.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX, it is already obvious that according to the results of the coronavirus pandemic, Russia will be in honorable second place by the total number of cases

        On the honorary it was necessary to take in quotes.

        How so. Until now, the government has done what it praises itself: they have reported how successfully they cope with the coronovirus!

        They kept telling us that they were much worse, and ours was much better thanks to the brilliant and professional actions of our government (according to Peskov) ... And here again, and such an opportunity!
        1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 09: 31 New
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          Notice, no one has said that in recent days. Probably, they began to notice reality.
      2. Snail N9 8 May 2020 10: 50 New
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        But who is interested in a true decrease in the number of cases? The Russian authorities are only interested in the COST of events, how expensive this is all. They would have done nothing at all if they had not been afraid to get complete contempt of both the population and the world community, against the background of what is being done to combat the “abroad” pandemic. Penalties are already profitable, or partially offset the costs. For the authorities it would be just perfect - to make money on a pandemic, and to work out, shove, legalize the activities of the "digital concentration camp" for the population.
        1. New Year day 8 May 2020 11: 32 New
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          Quote: Snail N9
          But who is interested in a true decrease in the number of cases?

          interested in! After all, it is necessary to conduct a vote on the Putin’s constitution, to stir up the economy! BUT this is the moment when you want and prick
    2. Shahno 8 May 2020 08: 46 New
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      Yes, strange, I didn’t. Our synagogues immediately closed in a tough form. Still closed despite the fact that people went to work ...
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        1. alone 8 May 2020 11: 48 New
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          Quote: Snail N9
          Here are the measures in the United States to support the population, I don’t know how true this is, but it seems that the person who lives there wrote, you can compare with “our” type “measures”:

          In vain you copied it .. Now they will make of you “the enemy of the people” .. And for a long time they will explain the harmfulness of these aids wassat
        2. Shahno 8 May 2020 12: 30 New
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          // All banks sent letters themselves that if you have problems, call, we will transfer payments to start for 90 days. Including mortgage .//
          We have this automatic service. Matsav hirum-ChP immediately includes this service (well, it’s clear that not for 100 percent of customers, but who was friends with his head, everything is in order)
          In Canada, I can find out from the guys. By state, to be honest, they sent me, but I did not get it.
  2. Far B 8 May 2020 06: 21 New
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    I completely agree, the root cause is the inadequacy and incompetence of the measures taken by the authorities. Although Putin insists in each of his speeches from the Institute of Beekeeping that everything that is being done is being done solely for the good of the citizens, no one believes this already. The first week they tried to believe, they really sat at home. And now, seeing that the authorities, in fact, complained, they all simply scored on self-isolation, self-isolation ended in people. Everything is on the streets. In masks, without masks - no difference. Further, I suppose, the people will simply begin to openly hammer on all these stupid directions of those in power, and one way or another will begin to work. Contrary to. A sort of silent protest, almost according to Gandhi. And no tightening of restrictive measures will lead to anything, except for a sharp surge in social tension. Oh, my heart smells, sho we are on the eve of a grandiose schukher ... (c)
    1. Grandfather 8 May 2020 06: 32 New
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      we also "happily" walk around the city without masks, they openly ignore the police, they don’t know what to do, they are afraid, the people are angry, without work, without money for almost a couple of weeks and may even become more displeased. the actions of the authorities are not like a “mistake”, at first they didn’t allow them to retire, then they lost their jobs, and millions of them buried the “private owner” ... what next? to run ???
    2. Van 16 8 May 2020 06: 33 New
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      Well, if the top leadership, headed by the president and prime minister, was self-isolated from the problems of the people, it is logical that in response the people began to isolate themselves from such power.
    3. Not_invented 8 May 2020 07: 12 New
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      So already clogs. We have a mask mode in the city, no more than a third go in masks. Because in the pharmacies these masks were not, and not. Or maybe just not hunting.
      1. Nastia makarova 8 May 2020 07: 18 New
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        we have masks for almost everyone, but they are in their pockets)))) it’s hard to walk along the street and breathe through the mask
        1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 07: 22 New
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          By the way, this is not very clear to me. I go to reusable and do not experience inconvenience. Maybe the model was lucky.
          1. Nastia makarova 8 May 2020 07: 32 New
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            on the street you need to breathe fresh air and wear a mask when in contact with people
            1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 07: 37 New
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              I do not quite agree with this opinion :) I have a fairly large city, good weather, so people on the streets of the crowd cannot get away from everyone by 2 meters. Therefore, if the oncoming pedestrian sneezes at you, the effect will be the same as in the room. On the deserted streets - yes, of course you can wear a mask.
              1. Yuriy77 8 May 2020 08: 47 New
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                If the oncoming pedestrian sneezes at you and you are in a mask but not in protective glasses, you will be infected through the mucous membrane of the eye!
              2. Nastia makarova 8 May 2020 10: 40 New
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                the oncoming pedestrian if he constantly sneezes then there should be a mask, the mask is not from the virus but from the spread of it
          2. AA17 8 May 2020 08: 49 New
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            Dear, Not_invented. "I go to reusable and do not experience inconvenience." - Your phrase. Has your mask been certified? Does it have a bactericidal layer? Or is your reusable mask made of woven materials and bought "in a store, in a store"? Such masks are not a medical device and are not accompanied by instructions for use. How often do you change your mask during the day? How many masks do you carry with you? You use the mask correctly (a mask equipped with a paper filter is changed once every 1 hours; a mask treated with a special bactericidal agent is worn for about 2-3 hours; if the mask is wet from coughing, sneezing or breathing, it is changed immediately.) ???
            Questions are some questions. At the beginning of somo isolation, I heard a speech by a virologist who said: 100% protection can only be provided with a respirator that is designed to protect against Poisoning Substances.
            1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 10: 23 New
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              The mask, I believe, is certified, because it was bought before anyone even heard about the coronavirus for the first time. There is clearly no bactericidal layer there, but coronavirus is not a bacterium, so in this sense the layer is not required, only from other pathogens. As follows from one of my previous works on the site, we have confirmed the case of coronavirus at the entrance, so I only go to the store, which takes much less than 2 hours. The used mask is soaked in soapy water, washed and dried. As far as I know, this complies with the rules for the operation of such products.
              I dare to suggest that we do not need a respirator for poisonous substances, because the protective filters for different substances are different, but an anti-aerosol filter that traps such small particles as viruses purely mechanically.
            2. New Year day 8 May 2020 11: 39 New
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              Quote: AA17
              Has your mask been certified? Does it have a bactericidal layer?

              and you will assure the same with respect to masks sold in pharmacies and the metro, shops and stalls or with hands?
        2. AU Ivanov. 8 May 2020 10: 06 New
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          You should not wear a mask on the street. She is for the premises.
        3. Sklendarka 8 May 2020 13: 16 New
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          C'mon, I’m at work for 12 hours wearing a mask and gloves ... I walk about 10 km and drive along Mink somewhere 100/120 km. It breathes fine! ...
      2. Anatole Klim 8 May 2020 08: 36 New
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        Quote: Not_invented
        Because in the pharmacies these masks were not, and not.

        In my city, they solved the problem with masks, they sell them in all pharmacies and even in stalls, they found their local ones, and then the Governor issued an order to introduce a mask regime, without masks it is impossible in stores, institutions or transport. The most interesting is said openly: what do you want, businessmen in power invested in these masks, now you need to repay the denyuzhka yes with a profit yes
        1. New Year day 8 May 2020 11: 50 New
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          Quote: Anatole Klim
          The most interesting is said openly: what do you want, businessmen in power invested in these masks, now you need to repay the denyuzhka yes with a profit

          to whom is war, and to whom is mother dear!
          The "before" mask cost within 1 ruble, now on Aliexpress the mask costs 19-20 rubles
          And such a price pays off!
          For us, power brings in masks at a much higher price!

          It’s not a pity for Sobyanin to spend 13 billion rubles on the curb, but don’t give out the masks, but it’s a pity to sell at least at cost.
          Power stupidly earns money. Why reanimate the economy, why high oil prices! Replenish the budget deficit at the expense of masks and fines! It's Russia!
    4. Lannan Shi 8 May 2020 08: 29 New
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      Quote: Far In
      I completely agree, the root cause is the inadequacy and incompetence of the measures taken by the authorities.

      You are mistaken. The main reason is the inadequacy of the authorities themselves. And inadequacy of measures ... This is a consequence, not a cause.
    5. EvilLion 8 May 2020 08: 47 New
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      The authorities did everything right, but for you, apparently, you need to just like in Turkmenistan to ban the disease, there is no disease, there are no cases, and it doesn’t matter that mortality reaches 30 percent. Do you even know that in Europe there are a lot of countries with more 10%? This is, as it were, the plague, only it doesn’t cause a few hundred, but several hundred thousand.
      1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 10: 28 New
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        Our authorities always do everything right. Putting a doctor on self-isolation due to coronavirus in the entrance without saving a salary and conducting a test (see my previous note on the site) is also correct. Doctors do not eat in Russia. Only treated. the best in the world.
    6. New Year day 8 May 2020 11: 34 New
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      Quote: Far In
      A sort of silent protest, almost according to Gandhi.

      initially! And then - the format of the relationship may change. Any protest against masks can easily turn into a protest against the authorities, which is not surprising.
  3. Pessimist22 8 May 2020 06: 27 New
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    This virus is not going anywhere, we have to get it and develop general immunity, the mortality rate from it is not high with us, so it's normal, in any case, there will be another wave of diseases with this COVID 19 in the fall.
    1. AUL
      AUL 8 May 2020 08: 29 New
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      Quote: Pessimist22
      in the fall there will be another wave of diseases with this COVID 19.

      And again, the authorities will not know what to do, as now. But I’m scared of something else. All pandemics, even more terrible than this covid, once end - and the plague, and cholera, and smallpox, and other abominations. And how will the country come out of the consequences of the pandemic - economic, financial, social? The current government at all levels has shown its full impotence and mediocrity! After the cove, the situation in the country will not be better than in the year 45. How will we get out? I’m not worried about myself (it’s time for me to "free up living space" for a long time), I have children and grandchildren, they live on here!
      All of health!
      1. Pessimist22 8 May 2020 09: 39 New
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        I don’t know how anyone, but I only get everything by my own labor, a garden, a garden, bees, greenhouses, work in the city, I think I can prepare for new isolation and for winter.
  4. Mikhail m 8 May 2020 06: 37 New
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    An epidemic is a situation in which more than 5% of the population becomes ill. So while the coronavirus is not pulling on an epidemic.
    To develop collective immunity, about 60% of the population should be ill. Before this, we too are far away.
    Self-isolation is designed to smooth out the peak of incidence, to stretch it in time, so that the health system copes with its capacity with the number of cases.
    Masks are effective only when they are worn by patients. Wearing them helps healthy people, mainly psychologically.
    Gloves are not needed, as the virus is not transmitted through the skin. And to scratch your eyes and nose, you can quite successfully with gloves.
    In a private car, the probability of getting infected is almost zero, which cannot be said about public transport.
    The probability of infection in the nearest grocery store is no less than in any other. Why closed non-food stores and allowed to visit only the next?
    Walk the dog within 100 meters of the house. And then the coronavirus sits in an ambush?
    The inefficiency and stupidity of the measures is simply amazing. As well as the size of fines.
    The price of onions for the week rose more than 1,5 times. Prices for masks, lemons, ginger ... FAS, ay !!!
    1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 07: 14 New
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      FAS yesterday woke up, there will be lemons for 400r checked for cartel conspiracy.
      1. Mikhail m 8 May 2020 09: 56 New
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        We introduce a mask mode. Huber said masks will be on sale at affordable prices. I went to the Crossroads. Disposable mask more than 100 rubles. It seems to me that the affordable price for me and for him is completely different prices. Who lifted the prices of masks dozens of times? I am tormented by vague doubts that these “who” are related to those who introduce the mask regime.
    2. IS-80_RVGK2 8 May 2020 09: 56 New
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      The stupidity of your comment is amazing too. Say, how do you know that you do not have a coronavirus?
      1. Mikhail m 8 May 2020 10: 01 New
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        We are so close friends that we switched to you? Or canceled the elementary rules of politeness on the site in connection with the coronavirus?
        1. IS-80_RVGK2 8 May 2020 11: 58 New
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          Quote: Michael m
          We are so close friends that we switched to you? Or canceled the elementary rules of politeness on the site in connection with the coronavirus?

          You do not hide behind the rules of courtesy. You answer the question. Or crowed, and then at least do not dawn?
    3. AU Ivanov. 8 May 2020 10: 10 New
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      People do not have a brain. We ourselves have created a problem of hype. What is lemon from the virus? What side does ginger help you with? The only panacea is water charged in front of the TV. The drug of all time.
      1. Mikhail m 8 May 2020 10: 40 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        The only panacea is water charged in front of the TV.

        Unfortunately, Chumak is not. I have to use Solovyov and Kiselev. Well, masks that help at the level of charged water.
        1. alone 8 May 2020 11: 50 New
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          Quote: Michael m
          I have to use Solovyov and Kiselyov

          Sorry for you ..
        2. IS-80_RVGK2 8 May 2020 11: 59 New
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          Well, that is, in China they help around the world help, and we have a damned place that does not work?
    4. Sklendarka 8 May 2020 13: 21 New
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      In a personal car, just what you can if you do not follow a couple of tips
      CONDITION DO NOT include !!!
      The pressure in the cabin is greater than the pressure outside the window, i.e. we drive the air in the cabin ..
  5. Pytnik 8 May 2020 06: 42 New
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    Quote: Far In
    Further, I suppose, the people will simply begin to openly hammer on all these stupid directions of those in power, and one way or another will begin to work.

    I agree with this (I see in my city that small business began to work by spitting on all this self-isolation),
    Quote: Far In
    Oh, my heart smells, sho we are on the eve of a grandiose schukher ... (c)
    And on the account of "Shuhera" there is a good article on Yandex Zen https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5d6000a4ba281e00ad6e6c3b/vozmojen-li-bunt-v-rossii-chast-pervaia-siloviki-5eb0417c49d6c31325adad5c
    , 2-part article, read, small protest Potential, local manifestations can certainly happen like a rally in Vladikavkaz, which will quickly crush
  6. Pvi1206 8 May 2020 06: 48 New
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    Russia will be in an honorable second place in the total number of cases

    asymptomatic carriers of the virus continue to live an ordinary life, and they are also considered ... any person is a carrier of a variety of viruses that are activated under favorable conditions for them ... some people get sick, others have immunity ... but statistics - that draws : where I turned, it turned out ...
  7. Alex66 8 May 2020 06: 55 New
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    Yes, you can’t drive your car, on the bus, taxi, metro please. The crowd can go to the store on the river bank, observing a distance no-by, the police running after the people around. Yes, and we do not believe the authorities see that they are trying to drag their own laws on chip-populating the population, distance education for the poor and full-time for the rich, and if the FSF needs to be tolerated, it’s still allowed.
    1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 07: 42 New
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      Oh, I would have to work on a chip that, after injecting a syringe through a needle (so tiny), is not visible on the X-ray (all-plastic, apparently), but (without an energy source) performs its monitoring function (is there GPS inside?) actions of the population.
      1. AA17 8 May 2020 08: 58 New
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        "Eh, I would have such a chip to work ..." Sorry for the indiscreet question: Why do you need this? Do you want to introduce it to yourself or your employees? Do you want to introduce this chip to your family members?
        1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 10: 40 New
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          No, it’s just that current technologies have not even come close to such characteristics. Anyone who is the first to receive such technologies will be out of competition in the consumer electronics market. Microcircuits - after all, they all rivet on the same principle - this or that variation on the topic of photolithography. So if this superchip has such characteristics, then any other with any other function can also be reduced. And bust Apple in a couple of months.
          And about the introduction of the family, so exist such a chip, it would introduce. It can be made to monitor heart rate, pressure. The dream of any doctor.
          1. AA17 8 May 2020 10: 59 New
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            Why such modest desires, only to monitor the pressure? And if you develop further: regulate the pressure, that is, control the pressure. For example: reduce. THE TRUTH IS A SMALL Trivia: and if someone from outside wants to increase the pressure to 220-240 points and arrange a stroke? And what prospects are opening: to control the human brain !!!
            1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 11: 04 New
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              Let's imagine that you have a thermometer. It allows you to measure temperature. Does the thermometer allow you to control the temperature? No. We know how to measure temperature with a tiny temperature sensor, but no one has any idea how to control it, otherwise paracetamols, ibuprofen and other things would not be needed. Same thing with pressure. To reduce pressure, people with hypertension drink pills daily. Yes, if there were a chip in the world that could control pressure, they would be the first to register for an injection, because they die from this increased pressure! There are no such technologies. The control task and the measurement task are tasks that are incommensurable in complexity.
              Regarding brain control. You can’t imagine how much I want the brain-computer interface to appear. This will change society so much that the revolution brought by the Internet will fade. Unfortunately, no one now understands how the brain works. No one understands what consciousness is. People just don’t know this. Therefore, brain control does not shine for us either.
              1. Dingo 17 May 2020 16: 59 New
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                Let me insert my "5 cents" in this thread? ...
              2. Dingo 17 May 2020 17: 28 New
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                ... the same with pressure. To reduce pressure, people with hypertension drink pills daily. Yes, if there were a chip in the world that could control pressure, they would be the first to register for an injection, because they die from this increased pressure! ... Yes, I agree with you. Usually. But there are exceptions to every rule. High pressure, according to the head of the department, saved me. There was a microstroke, 3 years before retirement. I took the ambulance straight from work. The right side began to live its own life - absolutely, at times, not obeying me. I didn’t understand what was happening. I went to work like a zombie for a week ... Now it's scary to remember when the understanding came ... Clinic (the benefit was VHI), Then a sanatorium. In general, the doctors "raised" me. And a week or two before that, yes ... I came to the first-aid post - my sister rolled out her eyes - 202 per 100, and pulse 98 ... - You need to call an ambulance? .. - No need .. Capoten tablet ... everything is fine ... Now the tonometer in the bedroom is nearby, on the bedside table. And the morning certainly doesn’t start with coffee with a cigarette ...
      2. AU Ivanov. 8 May 2020 10: 43 New
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        You carry such a chip in your pocket. The mobile phone is called.
        1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 10: 45 New
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          A mobile phone is many orders of magnitude larger than the size of a chip for mythical chipization.
  8. svp67 8 May 2020 06: 55 New
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    PS According to the author, at the end of March it was necessary to put the whole country in general quarantine with the introduction of emergency situations for three weeks and full compensation of salaries from the reserve fund, plus the introduction of such fines so that even the oligarchs would crack the budget. It would be cheaper than the current "self-isolation" with the slow death of the business.
    Wrong opinion. Then it was enough to introduce tough measures in Moscow and the region. By quarantining, all those who are trying to get through it and especially leave. The remaining areas were supposed to remain in standby mode while continuing to work. The authorities allowed the spread of this infection throughout the country and only at the end of April, having realized it, they began to demand self-quarantine for everyone who came from Moscow ... late, too late.
    1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 07: 16 New
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      International flights fly not only through Moscow. So the outbreak in the country was clearly not only in Moscow. Although, of course, I can’t cite this fact.
      1. svp67 8 May 2020 07: 23 New
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        International flights fly not only through Moscow.

        At that moment, the borders were almost closed, and international flights were carried out through one terminal of Sheremetev
        1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 07: 25 New
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          We are talking about different points, apparently. I'm talking about the moment of detection of the first cases in the Russian Federation. The complete closure of borders did not happen immediately afterwards.
    2. IS-80_RVGK2 8 May 2020 10: 03 New
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      The authorities had three months left since the epidemic in China gained momentum. And no nichrome was made. The general impression of all the actions is that there are no well-developed scenarios for the development of the situation, there are really no plans. Everything is solved instantly. And the right hand sometimes does not know what the left does.
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    There was an interesting article in Novaya Gazeta:
    https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2020/04/29/85159-kak-nas-duryat
    The point is that when a massive blood test was performed for the presence of antibodies to Covid (a marker that a person was ill), it turned out that the real mortality from this infection is as follows:
    In the county of Santa Clara (California) - 0,12-0,2%. In the county of Los Angeles - 0,18-0,36%. In Gangelt (Germany) - 0,37%. In the state of New York - 0,58%, in the city of New York - 0,86%
    And mortality from the commonplace flu is about 1% percent.
    That is, humanity was unanimously afraid of the "drawn" monster: like a child who came up with a monster living under the bed, and now is afraid to sleep.
    Therefore, it is urgent to organize mass studies of the blood of Russians: it is possible that very many have already had this “terrible deadly disease”, but have not paid any attention to it.
    And new cases are detected only because they began to take “smears” in large quantities - if they were taken in winter and early spring, they would have detected people who were sick ten times more (if not hundreds).
    By the way, WHO has already recognized that Covid appeared in Europe in December 2019.
    1. forest1 8 May 2020 07: 19 New
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      Where in California the county is interesting. There are no graphs either. Only dukes, princes and marquises live there
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        VLR 8 May 2020 07: 26 New
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        Counties in the former colonies of the United Kingdom from the British (British) - and in the United States there are counties (although there are no counts) in Australia and New Zealand. We have districts, they have counties.
        1. forest1 8 May 2020 07: 39 New
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          in fact, for the county in English the word earldom is provided. In the US, everyone calls County. This word is broad, suitable both for the county and simply for the county or district. This word can be correctly translated as a county only for lands that really belonged to the count (or some other feudal lord) to some one in the past. Otherwise, the only correct translation is essentially a district.
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          In order not to be unfounded, here is the English-language list of counties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earldoms
          It is completely absent and the United States and Australia and Zealand
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            I quoted from an article. As for the essence of the issue, these are the subtleties of translation: in Novaya Gazeta, apparently, the translator is not a very big specialist, he translated literally. Yes, "Santa Clara County" is better and more accurate than "Santa Clara County." But fundamentally in the essence of the problem this does not change anything. Now, if he translated the word artist as "actor" - that would be another matter, because it is an artist.
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              Well, apparently so. Just a rumor cut through
    2. edasko 8 May 2020 08: 11 New
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      Yes, what did you all go wrong - sick, sick .. Those who have found covid, they all writhe in pain? It is just infected. In humans, more than 2 kg of all sorts of viruses, bacteria and other rubbish. So what? Each of us has a bunch of terrible diseases? These scary thousands of infected people are not talking about anything. Only the number of those in intensive care is really exciting. And then, it’s a very slippery question - what really caused the person to feel sick, from covida or from the stress that thundered into this damn hospital, everyone walks in spacesuits and every day the journalists tell him - you will die, you will die ..
    3. alone 8 May 2020 11: 53 New
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      By the way, WHO has already recognized that Covid appeared in Europe in December 2019.

      And this is not news .. In Italy, he appeared just before the New Year, when clothing stores announced New Year's discounts. People from all over the world, especially from China, were there.
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      And mortality from the commonplace flu is about 1% percent.
      This is where you read it? in the original article, mortality from influenza - 0.04%
  10. Amateur 8 May 2020 07: 21 New
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    PS According to the author, at the end of March it was necessary to put the whole country in general quarantine with the introduction of emergency situations for three weeks and full compensation of salaries from the reserve fund, plus the introduction of such fines so that even the oligarchs would crack the budget. It would be cheaper than the current "self-isolation" with the slow death of the business.

    This idea has been voiced for some time "in the kitchens" of Moscow doctors. But the unprofessional Moscow leadership did not dare to do this, because the “quarantines” had to pay a triple salary. We decided to save. As a result, they were saved
    1. edasko 8 May 2020 08: 19 New
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      And what are they actually saving up for? What happened? The performance will go on for a couple more weeks, and then everything will return back. Which of the writers here knows the real picture of losses and gains? And, most importantly, who understands at least something in this? It is clear that some of the citizens suffered. And there are those who made a profit. At first they inspired everyone to die, everyone will die. Now they are convincing that the economy has collapsed, the government is such a bad one (one cannot write obscenities here, but one really wants to). As for power, I agree in principle. But it is embarrassing that all this passes like a skillfully induced psychosis.
  11. Million 8 May 2020 08: 11 New
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    Power is not good, and in this matter
  12. samarin1969 8 May 2020 08: 30 New
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    Now, after the failure of the quarantine parody, the media are moving the idea of ​​collective immunity. This is from hopelessness. So far, doctors find too much “atypical” in that epidemic to claim that COVID “will die” itself. Will there be stable immunity, what is the speed of mutations, how the virus spreads - so far only speculation.
    Well, and how many millions this world will leave - it will be a tragedy! But you could save these people: just introduce tough adequate quarantine measures at the border.
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      So they actually entered. Stop talking nonsense.
  13. depressant 8 May 2020 08: 36 New
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    Yes, what self-isolation is there! Even if in our village all the people were disciplinedly locked in apartments, the water supply system is flimsy, plumbing devices due to poverty of the population are the cheapest. I put a new faucet in the bathroom six months ago, and it is already flowing, so you need to call the plumbing. And so it is for everyone. So our plumbers go to apartments - from the very beginning of self-isolation. Continuously go! And if they visit the apartment of an infected person, then, consider, the whole village will get sick.
    Flowing tap in my bathroom, flowing. I watch how the counter is spinning quietly. Plumbing is not calling. Till.
    1. Mordvin 3 8 May 2020 22: 04 New
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      I watch how the counter is spinning quietly.

      Stick the magnet, maybe it will stop.
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        I would also put ... But the antimagnetic seal is in trouble)))
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          Quote: Minus
          But the trouble is the antimagnetic seal is)))

          Then you need to drill a small hole and lock the twist with a needle.
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        Yeah. They (that is, counters) have long been antimagnetic ... Passed stage.
  14. EvilLion 8 May 2020 08: 45 New
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    And in what place will Russia be in the number of deaths? On the first from the end? We conduct just a huge number of tests, respectively, and identify a bunch of infected with mild or asymptomatic. My sister was forced to take a test. Maybe they will force us with the whole organization.
    1. Shahno 8 May 2020 09: 11 New
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      Well then yes ... In the spaces of the former Union the people have always been strong.
      At maximum, infection gives a sharp exponent of mortality and mortality. So it’s better not to relax.
      PS. How many of your population lives in remote villages (Yakut, Chita, etc.)? Maybe it’s just that not all deaths have been connected with the coronovirus, lack of information .. exactly, is everything transparent?
      1. EvilLion 8 May 2020 09: 17 New
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        It is unlikely that more than one percent of the population lives there, which is generally unclear how it should be infected simply because of its remoteness from the outbreaks of the epidemic. But even think about it in any way, it is much easier to spray with saliva, proceeding in hatred of the authorities.

        As for the maximum, for the last day we have 88 deaths, and in Italy, where everything is already ending, 274, in the USA 1926. We are a couple of weeks behind Europe. Well with you, kebab lovers maybe 3.
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          We are a couple of weeks behind Europe.

          We are behind the European four leaders at the existing mortality rates by more than six months.
    2. Not_invented 8 May 2020 10: 51 New
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      In our entrance, a case was confirmed, but my wife, a pediatrician, didn’t have a test. The entrance is, you see, not close enough contact. But she was entitled to leave at her own expense for 2 weeks, because for the test the contact is not close, but close for work.
  15. rocket757 8 May 2020 08: 47 New
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    I dare say that everyone is to blame.

    Obvious and very likely!
  16. Shahno 8 May 2020 08: 50 New
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    // Even at the nearest store, sellers wear masks on their chins. It’s probably more comfortable to breathe.
    We generally believe that the chin is the most infectious part of the body ..
  17. Shahno 8 May 2020 08: 54 New
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    // Maybe carry it //
    But this, no offense, the Russians will add a lot of problems and take their lives. It's a kind of war ... this infection.
  18. Maks1995 8 May 2020 09: 39 New
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    All right. BUT alas. Elite How about yourself, Moscow elite and fine.

    It’s possible on Far East all at once - once - and in quarantine for two weeks. And in Moscow, officials and artists returning from Italy - no way! And Lev Leshchenko - no way! And do not let in the church, and hard quarantine - no way !!
    This is a direct bomb! under the rule of the scrupon elite!

    But the queues in the subway, in stores - you can. Not vips, endure. And: at VO there was: a queue of late foreign children elita for export to the Russian Federation. It turns out that there are such people in Asia, both in USA and in England. But about hard quarantine for such - not a word ... except Asia - from there it was about quarantine. There VIPs are not enough VIPs ...

    And that’s all. On the map of Moscow oblast, one can clearly see in color how the disease spreads from Moscow precisely along the working roads. On elite - here nifiga ....
  19. vnord 8 May 2020 10: 50 New
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    By the way, this is not very clear to me. I go to reusable and do not experience inconvenience. Maybe the model was lucky.

    It is reusable, it must be disinfected every two hours. But there are no disposable masks in pharmacies in our city .. And the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation allowed the sale of masks abroad ... And what does this mean ... Help is also kind of from the state ... I’m sitting without work on a suction, I asked for a vacation (car loan was refused because a loan of 630 thousand (the balance of 400 thousand), argue that a hundred vacations are provided with a car loan of up to 600 thousand. A relative was refused for consumer because the loan amount is more than 200 thousand ..
    1. Not_invented 8 May 2020 11: 56 New
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      So I have not walked for more than two hours. To the store only.
      I like the three million mortgage under 6.5 for comfort class housing. At us on odnushku comfort class just from three prices in the city begin. If she is out of somewhere, where the bus goes every three hours.
    2. Dingo 8 May 2020 21: 28 New
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      Valery, how are you? BEER sent me on Wednesday a cellular offer. Right now, I’ll rewrite briefly ... IMYAREK, now you can get a loan from home! Submit an application, find out a solution and get money online on a card or .... Amount 314 000 r at 16,9 per annum for 60 months, payment 7877 r-months. Quick, easy, safe ... PJSC Sberbank. Read it? Now you can laugh ...
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        Quote: Dingo
        BEER sent me on Wednesday a cellular offer. Right now, I’ll rewrite briefly ... IMYAREK, now you can get a loan from home! Submit an application, find out a solution and get money online on a card or .... Amount 314 000 r at 16,9 per annum for 60 months, payment 7877 r-months. Quick, easy, safe ... PJSC Sberbank. Read it? Now you can laugh ...

        Similar nonsense just today by SMS came. Some kind of credit gold card up to 300 rubles. But they stopped accepting Internet phone payments in cash at ATMs. Horned male goats.
  20. butckoja 8 May 2020 10: 52 New
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    Oh yes, how much can you do with this coronavirus ((But really the nonsense is that everything opens. People walk in heaps, everyone spat on the distance. We have an isolation index of 1,8 now. That is, people dofigisa ... We were forced to work at work go through training courses here - https://astobr.com/ Well, in general, the plus is that it will be useful remotely)) At least something good
  21. New Year day 8 May 2020 11: 14 New
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    Firstly, the Orthodox Easter happened.
    Secondly, on April 15 there was a pandemonium in the Moscow metro, which occurred due to the introduction of passes.

    this is an obvious fact, although the "major theoretical doctors" deny it ...
    Quote: bk316
    you are a hypothetical doctor.

    how do you with the maximum incubation goof. laughing
    .

    Note that these “specialists” do not even know about the existence of orders and recommendations of the Ministry of Health of the Russian Federation on this account!
  22. New Year day 8 May 2020 11: 30 New
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    According to the results of the coronavirus pandemic, Russia will be in an honorable second place in the total number of cases, losing only to the eternal enemy - the United States.

    without a doubt! And, judging by the hurriedly built ersatz hospitals in shopping and entertainment centers, the authorities are well aware of this, although only a week ago such a forecast for putriots was a red rag. Alas, reality is upsetting even persistent patterns.
    Quote: bk316

    Let's bet that we will not catch up. I am a mathematician. You are a doctor, we will assume that both are not bad. laughing
    So we find out who the best forecasts are given by mathematicians or doctors.
  23. alone 8 May 2020 12: 05 New
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    The pandemic situation is depressing ... If you think about it, there are several reasons for this ..
    1) The lack of a national concept for combating a pandemic .. It could be created 2-3 months ago ..
    2) The extension of the holidays with self-isolation instead of quarantine was announced .. There is a legislative framework for quarantine ... but the law does not say about self-isolation
    3) When it was necessary to explain to the people about the danger, all sorts of nonsense was transmitted through the channels ... all kinds of doctors came out and powdered the brains of the people that there was no virus, it was a fake, it was safe, it was more wonderful than miracles .. That’s why the people are confused
    4) The complete incompetence of officials who, by their actions, aggravated the situation .. Judging by what was said on May 6, nonsense continues at all levels
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      not just stupid things, as you said. Criminal negligence and incompetence. (Art. UK). I remember someone said - "... I don’t see landings ..." ... So, I remembered ...
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  25. awdrgy 8 May 2020 16: 12 New
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    And here I recently "stukanuli" about the children on the site. Coronavirus is not a coronavirus, and if such "signals" already come in then it's all "Brainwashing and a complete suture" Even the economy is resting before this
  26. cniza 8 May 2020 16: 50 New
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    According to the author, at the end of March it was necessary to put the whole country in general quarantine with the introduction of emergency


    And the author knows what Ch.S. and how should it work?
  27. Dingo 8 May 2020 18: 36 New
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    According to the author, at the end of March it was necessary to put the whole country in general quarantine with the introduction of an emergency for three weeks and full compensation of salaries from the reserve fund, plus the introduction of such fines so that even the oligarchs would crack the budget. It would be cheaper than the current "self-isolation" with the slow death of the business.
    Yeah, shchazz ... Are you carelessly surfing the Internet? Or are you interested in watching the “zombie box”? .. Siluanov made it clear that there would be no “helicopter” money - “the budget will crack” ... They will definitely not crack their faces ... What remains? (Hope dies last, however. ..) Medicine. Who was killing her? Ah, excuse me - "optimized"? Zurabov? So this whip managed to play a trick in his time and in the PFR, turning from a "pension" into a "funeral" ... Golikov? This "little girl" at the current post sincerely believes that the minimum wage should, in her opinion, be calculated "... taking into account other parameters" .... (what? Ask her yourself - you are people - not the "electorate") Skvortsova ? ... a cherry on the cake ... This lady is already three years old, how to sew work gauntlets in a Mordovian colony ... You see - half the time would have been unwound ... But no. Chief infectious disease specialist! there is a fight .... And this old, greasy deck is being shuffled, shuffled ... And the "otvetka" here it has arrived ... I checked for lice and power, and "health care", and "pension reform", and these, with driven by ER, and this bureaucratic scum with their "macaroni", and nouveau riche oligarchs, whom Peskov called "socially responsible" managers ... these effectively "defective" ..., and this "scabby" Duma (which then the "furious printer" was silent) ... TESTED ALL. No guys. I do not gloat. Just boiling up.
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      Well, rushing you there ... Frankly.
      1. Dingo 8 May 2020 20: 56 New
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        Pavel - do you have any other suggestions? Speak - listening to you.
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      Agree to all 100 hi
  28. Dingo 8 May 2020 19: 02 New
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    Yes, the other day a friend called - Vit, lend a couple thousand ... if you can .. He and his family sit two-thirds ... From the tariff. Of course, Ser ... not a question. (Housing and communal services in BEACAR I already paid Gref .. For "garbage" 360,62 -also .. (what the hell is garbage from two pensioners!) .. What else .. The Internet ... the five-year-old granddaughter almost lives with us - her "distance" ... Yes, and eat ... There is still a little left on the card ... Yes, and retirement soon - my 19 with copecks (experience since 1976, "white") and my wife 8 with a little "tail" (since 1980 - at the end of the 90s, when liberal, in an envelope “the owner”, like, paid) .. Serega is worse. Slightly younger than me - but the authorities “added” a term ...- Of course I will, Serezha. Come ... Here ... and survive. "IM" do not understand us ...
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  30. Dingo 8 May 2020 19: 22 New
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    And the next comment "author" deleted ... It becomes more interesting ...
  31. Dingo 8 May 2020 19: 31 New
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    All clear. Well, well, this pandemic in figs ... Let's talk about creativity, huh? Do you know such a singer, musician "Trofim"? Sergei Vyacheslavovich Trofimov “in one of the elections” was a “confidant” of the Russian presidential candidate ... Yes, the current one. Do you generally know his work in general terms? Well, do not delete, let me say, eh?
  32. Dingo 8 May 2020 19: 46 New
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    Google ... He has a lot of albums there. But we (these are tribes. One — then still a captain (201 division, Tajikistan) and then a major (both Chechen — and unmeasured business trips) liked this one ...- The full dress uniform was dusty on a shelf ... "" ... V to this impoverished, wretched, clogged country, so similar to the common zone - we are on an assignment where every step we take is outside the law, outside the law "... One is now retired, the second is a riot squad ...
  33. Dingo 8 May 2020 19: 50 New
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    "... We have a destiny to protect this world FROM THE LAW - OUTSIDE THE LAW ..."
  34. Dingo 8 May 2020 19: 58 New
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    ... not everything is so glorious in the Danish kingdom ... Some kind of Danish rot is in power ... "No, it's Shakespeare. Translated by Boris Pasternak ... if my memory serves me right ... All the best, don’t be sick. Take care of yourself and your loved ones .. Pity the doctors - you won’t envy them right now ... Lenka - my little sister - I haven’t called for a long time ... It is painful to hear her voice after the watch ... She is a doctor.
    1. depressant 8 May 2020 22: 31 New
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      Dingo colleague, I heard you. With all my heart - thanks for the sincerity! hi
      1. Dingo 9 May 2020 11: 38 New
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        Lyudmila Yakovlevna - I'm not a doctor. Retired techie. All that is said here is sincerely and sincerely. Happy Holiday!
  35. Comrade Michael 9 May 2020 11: 28 New
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    The most interesting thing is yet to come and the point is not in one virus .... Although authorities say that they have already defeated the virus.
    1. Dingo 9 May 2020 12: 31 New
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      Michael, I hope that you will be right. Yes, it’s not a matter of the virus ... It just “highlighted” (the term from the service. I’m just an ACS operator ... 1st class ... yes, the former ... in Sary-Shagan, on Soyuz 79 “we found a“ cure ”for the“ axes ”of these so-called“ partners. ”The Air Defense Commander, Air Marshal Koldunov shook my hand, thanks for the service ... the conscript sergeant ... wet, sweaty ... unbuttoned" to navel ".. But they did the job - they found a cure for this" exceptional "punks ... Sorry - I remembered ...) everything that was hushed up for years and decades ... Apparently - it's time to make a choice.
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      I talked about this at the forum of the magazine “AT THE DRIVE” - in the “Meet AvtoVAZ” branch .. the editorial office sent a separate link to the “mailbox” - “invitation to cooperation” ... But then we were obligated to sign “ABOUT NON-DISCLOSURE” .. And I had two more years until retirement ... But to survive in Tolyatti ... Yes, the electronica of the magazine still comes to the mailbox ... The guys from the editorial office clearly keep their word ...
  36. Comrade Michael 9 May 2020 11: 52 New
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    I went 3 weeks ago to the Ryazan region ... The route was 450 km ... 1 time they stopped at the entrance to the Ryazan region they asked if I feel good .... I arrived, everything works there. Crowds of Muscovites turned into a province ... All the shops, all crowded places. Who does not work? Electricians do not work, road workers, and everyone who doesn’t get around and works in the fresh air ... He arrived, honestly informed the authorities, went into deaf quarantine for 2 weeks. While I was sitting there, listening to the radio, there were absolutely mutually exclusive messages from the official authorities .... I came out, I got it ... Nobody is observing anything in the province, people are wandering in droves. Visitors, 70% do not get quarantined ... I’m going back, stocked with passes. I got it for the 3rd time, the flow of Muscovites to the region and out of town, traffic jams ... ALL posts have been removed, that's all! Conclusions: 1. Actually, we were abandoned, according to the principle, the strongest and most healthy will survive. 2. The people are disoriented by the authorities, completely stupefied (that’s why they are drawn to wild extremes). 3. The people are completely deaf and selfish (all do not care about the life and health of others), he abandoned himself. And conclusion 4: Our cataclysms will not end with the virus, there will be much more .... Good or bad, I don’t know. But I wish all the good Russian people to stay alive.
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      Michael, I completely agree with you. The same is in the Samara region. In particular, in Tolyatti. The most interesting thing is that you don’t need to blame people for nihilism ... They just already have everything ..... lo, all this is the hypocrisy of entoy, type, power ... Here it is, "otvetka" and "highlighting" .... None there the "Bulk-Nasralnye" enta authorities are not afraid ... It's just a "pop", a fake .. a little boy to beat the puppeteers ... Well, "Parsley", a mittens on the hand of the puppeteer ...
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        It’s a cut-in ... And they give him info ...
  37. Dingo 9 May 2020 11: 54 New
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    Happy Holidays, my dear compatriots! Happy Holiday!
  38. Dingo 9 May 2020 13: 35 New
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    ... and despite this virus - Let's drink for the Motherland! Let's drink for Stalin! Let's drink, and pour it again .. Let's drink for those who commanded companies, who died (froze?) In the snow. Who was pushing into swamps in Leningrad, breaking the throat (squeezing?) To the enemy ... Sorry - as a keepsake ... I heard this song from my father and his guys .. When, a long time ago, they gathered from time to time ... Who came out of August environment to their ... Taking the first blow in the Belarusian (special) district ... Yes, they drank ... smoked .. sang ...- and cried. Guys, God forbid you to see this ... I saw it as a child - my mother didn’t save it ... Nobody will tell you this anymore ... current ones will not show it ... This is such a war ... Who wants to repeat it? Lift your ass off the couch ...
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    Have you talked about the virus? About entoy's inability, so-called. "authorities" to do something - also ... In the autumn it will come around .. And what to do? ..- as my granddaughter said ... But eating, stealing, lying - it still did not benefit anyone .. Short-term devidents - yes. .. If they manage to escape ... They won’t have time? .. Well, they’ll take advantage of relatives, they will probably say thank you ... they will burst into tears ... Yes, to hell with them ... I’m talking about something else now. About education. The virus "highlighted" another side - the education of our children. Much has been said about the so-called "Bologna" system. Yes, the "test system" is suitable for the "education" of juvenile prisoners in EU prisons. Tolerance ... It is necessary to somehow raise the level of their self-awareness as a person. In order to avoid further, "unmotivated" crimes ... In their opinion. You say - and where does our children? Yes, moreover ... This "Bologna" system (which many countries have already abandoned due to the fall in crime) - was developed in the Russian Federation ... with the "drive" of the USE ... (the victim of the USE is already an insult) ... I am wrong? Well, let’s turn to Valery Matvienko ... who, with her “icy” gaze, stopped the escape of her “colleague” ... When Bastrykin and his comrades came for him ... As a result, this “gentleman” demanded an interpreter - because ..not speak Russian .. And this is in the Council of Federations! (victim of the USE) .. Val, you have everything there, eh? .. Let me ask, "Valka-glass", "Valka-sosulya" (St. Petersburg just "rattles" do not give - not that people) - and what laws did you approve? ... not understanding the text in Russian? ... Question into the void ...
    1. Vinnibuh 9 May 2020 20: 38 New
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      I’m greeting, fellow countryman, in Samara, too, everyone has hammered everything.
      1. Dingo 10 May 2020 20: 50 New
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        Hello fellow countryman! Yes, I know ...- the neighbor from the "May" returned from there. Azarov, though, “flickers” (who wants to lose a chair?) - but he doesn’t really “screw” ... Malekho held the siloviks ...
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        Read zem? SK found these "rear-wheel drive" ... who decided to "joke" in the action "Immortal Regiment" by inserting photos of Nazi animals there ... One from Perm, the second from Volgograd, the third - someone Shabanov - from Samara. The rest - as usual (Svidomo horses, "uh ... hot Estonian paaarnis" ...). They work on them. I’m thinking that at least one of the guys’s thread would also “joke” by crushing a scrotum in a pre-trial detention center by a scrotum ... (so as not to produce such “pranksters” and keep it-guaranteed-bleating) ... this will not happen again .. . ". And in the zone. Better the" red "... Anyway, he doesn’t live in Samara ... Neither him - nor his parents .. I thought about them at least, is this insignificance?
  40. Dingo 9 May 2020 18: 40 New
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    What are we talking about? About education. Continue? (No guys, I’m not a snob - I don’t suffer. And not a pro ... Techie. I just wanted to present you the opinion of a pro ... Excuse me? Quote -

    ... How to motivate a child? With such a simple question, Pravda.ru addressed the head of the All-Russian Education Fund, co-chairman of the Education for All movement, Sergei Konstantinovich Komkov.

    “I have always been very wary of all these reform matters, although I myself used to be an innovative teacher,” Sergey Komkov began from afar, “but today we are dealing with an actually large-scale experiment. I am afraid that the results of this experiment will be very deplorable, because most of our schools, most of our teaching staff, and most importantly, most of our Russian families are not ready for this experiment.

    The government of the Russian Federation seized power losers
    We suspected this without an expert, but here the most interesting and, alas, bitter admission:

    - We are not ready to move on to distance learning at home. We have neither developed methods for this, nor proven practice. For this we have no understanding of how this should all happen. All this will end with the fact that we will at least go down two or three steps down. We were very cool down with the introduction of a single state exam. With this experiment in the so-called home distance learning, we are still very cool down.

    From the most reading country in the world, we have already become stupid plywood flying over Paris. Now we will prepare our younger generation in footmen for foreign owners.

    - With very few exceptions, children will be independently engaged. Basically, children at home are doing whatever. Unless their parents took some control, they mostly sit on tablets, play computer toys or watch horror stories on TV. I'm afraid we will seriously undermine our entire education system. To control the process: who, how is the learning process at home, is now simply impossible. There is no feedback. She does not exist.

    Russia will produce fools

    - If in the conditions of Moscow, which is also very problematic, some feedback elements exist, then this is simply not the case in schools in other cities. At the regional level, this is not at all. In many regions where children were sent home, we will receive half a country of second-year students. You know, I'm not a supporter of conspiracy theory. But judging by what is happening now, I think a little overdone. We need to look at the experience of Sweden, where we did not go down this path. Schools continue to function normally. In case of transition to some other forms of training, they are carefully prepared. Look at Belarus. President Lukashenko bluntly said that no


    Read more at https://www.pravda.ru/society/1486004-education_russia/
  41. Dingo 9 May 2020 18: 46 New
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    What else to talk with them - I do not know. Fair. They probably live on another planet ... He doesn’t get fed up with the hungry ... - as they said in Russia. God be their judge ...
    1. Vinnibuh 9 May 2020 20: 43 New
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      That's for sure, I work as an electrician (state employee), a salary of 4900 + allowances. Management said: you are a bolt, not allowances, and that no one else knows. CS stadium Lokomotiv.i Ministry of Sports on Sam.obl. also sent us
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        At VAZ it’s also not ice .. The repair service is working .. (son says - we wash masks in the toilet under the tap with soap ...) ... A few more services ... In April, a “guarantor” flew in ... They all drove home - away from sin ... What they decided is still unclear .. The plant is "French", it was still when Seryozha Chemezov sold them ... Most likely - until the fall of "4 days" ... Dismissals are possible (optimization - they say so) .. And this is, above all, young people. That in the realities of Tolyatti is simple (another "answer" flew ... from the "funeral reform") ... Chore, of course. Wait and see. If we survive, we will find out. We survive, draw conclusions ... Something like this ...
  42. NordUral 10 May 2020 15: 45 New
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    It is strange to discuss this power, its motives or actions. Since 1991, a criminal gang has ruled the country, completely sold to the West in exchange for the destruction of the Union, and then Russia. Which they do quite successfully.
    It’s time to understand this already, fellow citizens!
  43. aglet 10 May 2020 18: 17 New
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    I talked about this on the forum of the magazine "DRIVING"

    did not cooperate with sportloto?
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      No, I didn’t cooperate. Do you have any experience? Share if not hard.
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      As I understand it, are you a patient of the Kanachikova Dacha? Don’t worry, the patient will help you .. Our doctors haven’t bought any diplomas ... and the “Bermuda Triangle” is also calm - Vladimir Semenovich took care of everything ... Relax, heal ... All the best, get well!
  44. aglet 10 May 2020 18: 26 New
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    It is painful to hear her voice after duty ... She is a medic.

    Well, right, all the doctors are falling from fatigue, they are dying right at the workplace, this is because they haven’t worked a damn thing before, now, of course, it’s hard for them to start working. and then they started to fall out of the windows, is it also from the virus? as before they pretended to work, and now, too. And it’s very interesting to read, such a doctor became infected, and so the doctor became infected, what kind of specialists are they, even if they can’t protect themselves? Qualifications below the baseboard, diplomas bought do not save. and such “specialists” are trying to treat us, the stump is clear, they will not be cured, they could only heal from a runny nose and from a sore throat, from diseases that pass themselves. funny to read about your sister, funny!
    1. Dingo 10 May 2020 20: 28 New
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      And who is against? Laugh ... Laugh, really, it’s not a sin ... Just try not to get sick, huh?
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        I laugh and I don’t go to doctors for a long time, I have the Internet, and I’m better than any doctor in it that the doctor is looking for symptoms on the Internet, that I will find them myself, on the same Internet. and don’t have to vote here about doctors falling from our feet and breasts covering us from the virus. Such doctors have long been gone, and the current ones don’t treat, but provide services for money
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      ... and about the "purchased diplomas" ... From now on, more ...
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    ... and about the "purchased diplomas" ... From now on, more

    and you don’t know how diplomas are being bought now, not in transitions, in institutes? it turns out a little more expensive, but the diploma is like a real one, or rather, a real diploma, there is no knowledge and skills. Doctors in this are no different from everyone else, if they cannot even protect themselves from the virus, what knowledge can we talk about? And how will they, for example, treat me?
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    No, I didn’t cooperate. Do you have any experience? Share if not hard.

    it’s never connected with sportloto, but how is the magazine behind the wheel connected with air defense - is that where you served in sergeants? that the conscript could know such a secret, that he could not even communicate with a regular journal. and the magazine forum behind the wheel is what?
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      Hmm ... cereal in the head. For the "especially gifted" .. In order - although it abhorrent. Before the call, in 77, after the distribution, I had to work in the so-called "p-I" .. (you don’t need to bother ..) He lived in Mytishchi, in a hostel. I went to work at Preobrazhenka, in NIIDAR .. Yes, I saw these in transitions with blue crusts. I don’t know the topic - it’s just not interesting. It was .. Then the appeal, Yelets training,, Cherepovets. From there - for six months, to Sary-Shagan (Dahl-78), the trail in the spring - again there, to Balkhash (Soyuz-79) .... Boy, did your mother drop you in childhood? Are you either a stupid man - or just a troll ... Did you do your homework? This is what distance meter does with shkolota ...
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    aerosol filter that retains particles as small as viruses mechanically

    you wouldn’t be able to breathe through such a filter, the pores would be very small
  48. aglet 11 May 2020 18: 40 New
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    He lived in Mytishchi, in a hostel

    Well, and how is this connected with the magazine behind the wheel? I also lived in a hostel at that time, not in mytischi,
    true, but at the wheel I read without any restrictions
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    Boy, didn’t your mother drop you in childhood?

    not a kid, I didn’t drop it. then the question is, who did you work in the drawer if you don’t know the topic, and you couldn’t read the magazine while driving? obviously something at the level of the supply department? and it’s still interesting how you, a person, possibly with a higher education,
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    Managed to serve in the Soviet army on an urgent basis for two years? to the navel open sergeant?
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    Quote: Dingo
    As I understand it, are you a patient of the Kanachikova Dacha?

    What, you so easily identify your fellow associates? Well, here you were wrong, not one of those I
    Quote: Dingo
    Our doctors have not bought diplomas
    -This is good, that means they will put you in the right ward, and they will stab you with the right haloperidol. so get well sickly. I do not want to wish the same; yes, yes, "with such health and freedom"
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    The repair service is working .. (son says - we wash masks in the toilet under the tap with soap and water ..

    hope not in the toilet? and what, at home, hot water is forbidden? well animals