Our epidemic future and its causes

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Our epidemic future and its causes

At the moment, 06.05.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX, it is already obvious that according to the results of the coronavirus pandemic, Russia will be in an honorable second place in the total number of cases, losing only to the eternal enemy - the United States. In this article I will try to selectively analyze the reasons for this almost a fact.

So, today the increase in the number of cases is more than 10000 per day with a tendency to increase. How viciously they joke on the Internet: “The plateau has tipped.” So why did this happen? Indeed, by April 28-29, officials began to timidly declare that there would be no further increase in the incidence, and 6-7 thousand cases a day would become the peak that everyone had been waiting for so long.



According to a study by the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health, the average incubation period for coronavirus is 5-6 days. In addition, a couple of days is necessary for a person to sound the alarm and turn to medical institutions, a few more pass until the test results are received. So what happened 10-15 days before the sharp increase in the incidence on April 29-30?

Firstly, the Orthodox Easter happened. I think that every reader of Military Review saw photographs of people who filled the temples and kissed the icons.

Secondly, on April 15 there was a pandemonium in the Moscow metro, which occurred due to the introduction of passes. Anyone who has been to the Moscow metro at least once does not need to explain that there, even without checking the pass of each person entering, it is far from empty in the passages, and then suddenly such an opportunity ...

In addition to these two events in Russia, spring happened. Yes alas. In the courtyard of the author’s house, the management company carefully shook the slides and swings with a striped ribbon, posting threatening proclamations about complaints to Rospotrebnadzor. The lifetime of the tape was not even two days. So since then this war has been going on - every few days the Criminal Code winds up the playing field with tape, and every few days hordes of children without masks in the company of their parents tear off the tape in order to taste the forbidden fruit, which, as you know, is very sweet, and this despite the fact that in one of the entrances of the house confirmed the case of coronavirus.

Another thing that I want to note from personal experience: a complete lack of compliance with the distance. In a mask, without a mask, in a store, on the street - there is no impulse to stay away, 80% of our citizens are imperceptible. Even at the nearest store, sellers wear masks on their chins. It’s probably more comfortable to breathe.

As the last reason, I note that people simply and corny go to work, because no real help to entrepreneurs and workers was allocated. Probably everyone heard that they promised to give small and medium-sized businesses a minimum wage for each employee? And they gave out. Not only to everyone, but from the “affected sectors”. And if, for example, you work in a small KB, then you should not, because you do not suffer from a coronavirus at all.

So, with the reasons for the increase in the incidence (everything said is the personal opinion of the author) figured out. But what led to the appearance of these reasons?

I dare say that everyone is to blame. On the one hand, it is completely incomprehensible why the authorities could not close the churches. There are so far fewer temples in our country than there are policemen. Put on Easter one at each church with an order to fine those who enter - and you will collect money in the local budget, and you will send people home to observe self-isolation. Why has this not been done? Maybe local administrations did not want to quarrel with the church, or maybe the fact is that the competence did not have enough to predict the faithful’s visit to churches for Easter, no one expected crowds in the metro after the introduction of passes. So now we have what we have. On the other hand, the people, seeing the inadequacy and weak effect of the measures taken, do not really want to comply with them, especially since there is practically no help from the people who take these measures, and this behavior exacerbates the situation.

Now a few words about what awaits us. The next step on the part of the authorities is likely to be the tightening of existing measures. Because it is ripe. Perhaps such tightening will have an effect. About three to four weeks later. And over these weeks, many people will run out of money corny, and people will go look for any job that they just turn up, spit on any risks and fines.

Therefore, it remains, as always, to rely on chance. Maybe it’s blowing, maybe solar radiation in the summer begins to kill the virus or mutates it so that it becomes the best friend of a person, and, perhaps, good American / Russian / Chinese scientists will prick everyone with the free vaccine the day after tomorrow. All except antivirals. The vaccine, of course, will be administered orally.

PS According to the author, at the end of March it was necessary to put the whole country in general quarantine with the introduction of emergency situations for three weeks and full compensation of salaries from the reserve fund, plus the introduction of such fines so that even the oligarchs would crack the budget. It would be cheaper than the current "self-isolation" with the slow death of the business.
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  1. +21
    8 May 2020 06: 20
    believers in temples on Easter, crowds in the subway
    Especially touches kissing icons and people in the subway at a "safe distance!"
    1. +18
      8 May 2020 08: 09
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      Especially touches kissing icons and people in the subway at a "safe distance!"

      The main route of transmission of viral infections is congestion. The main crowds are public transport, large shops and large enterprises. If through which cafe, even a large one, a couple of hundred people pass in a day, then through a large store there are five thousand. Through the hairdresser, a hundred, and through the metro tens of millions. Those. secondary crowded places are closed, and the main ones are working hard. Insanity thrives and smells. Yeah.
      1. +12
        8 May 2020 08: 46
        At the moment, 06.05.2020/XNUMX/XNUMX, it is already obvious that according to the results of the coronavirus pandemic, Russia will be in honorable second place by the total number of cases

        On the honorary it was necessary to take in quotes.

        How so. Until now, the government has done what it praises itself: they have reported how successfully they cope with the coronovirus!

        They kept telling us that they were much worse, and ours was much better thanks to the brilliant and professional actions of our government (according to Peskov) ... And here again, and such an opportunity!
        1. +11
          8 May 2020 09: 31
          Notice, no one has said that in recent days. Probably, they began to notice reality.
      2. +10
        8 May 2020 10: 50
        Who cares about a true decrease in the number of cases? the Russian authorities are interested ONLY in the COST of the activities, how expensive it is and all. They would not do anything at all if they were not afraid to receive complete contempt from both the population and the world community, against the background of what is being done to combat the pandemic "abroad." Fines are already making a profit, or partially offsetting the costs. It would be just ideal for the authorities - to also make money on the pandemic, and even work out, push through, legalize measures for the "digital concentration camp" for the population.
        1. +8
          8 May 2020 11: 32
          Quote: Snail N9
          But who is interested in a true decrease in the number of cases?

          interested in! After all, it is necessary to conduct a vote on the Putin’s constitution, to stir up the economy! BUT this is the moment when you want and prick
    2. +7
      8 May 2020 08: 46
      Yes, strange, I didn’t. Our synagogues immediately closed in a tough form. Still closed despite the fact that people went to work ...
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        1. +6
          8 May 2020 11: 48
          Quote: Snail N9
          Here are the measures in the United States to support the population, I don't know how true this is, but he wrote like a person living there, you can compare with "our" type of "measures":

          You shouldn't have copied it .. Now they will make an "enemy of the people" out of you .. And for a long time they will explain the harmfulness of these help wassat
        2. +6
          8 May 2020 12: 30
          // All banks sent letters themselves that if you have problems, call, we will transfer payments to start for 90 days. Including mortgage .//
          We have this automatic service. Matsav hirum-ChP immediately includes this service (well, it’s clear that not for 100 percent of customers, but who was friends with his head, everything is in order)
          In Canada, I can find out from the guys. By state, to be honest, they sent me, but I did not get it.
  2. +21
    8 May 2020 06: 21
    I completely agree, the root cause is the inadequacy and incompetence of the measures taken by the authorities. Although Putin insists in each of his speeches from the Institute of Beekeeping that everything that is being done is being done solely for the good of the citizens, no one believes this already. The first week they tried to believe, they really sat at home. And now, seeing that the authorities, in fact, complained, they all simply scored on self-isolation, self-isolation ended in people. Everything is on the streets. In masks, without masks - no difference. Further, I suppose, the people will simply begin to openly hammer on all these stupid directions of those in power, and one way or another will begin to work. Contrary to. A sort of silent protest, almost according to Gandhi. And no tightening of restrictive measures will lead to anything, except for a sharp surge in social tension. Oh, my heart smells, sho we are on the eve of a grandiose schukher ... (c)
    1. +15
      8 May 2020 06: 32
      here, too, they "joyfully" walk around the city without masks, the police are openly ignored, they do not know what to do, they are afraid, the people are angry, without work, without money for almost a couple more weeks, and discontent may already turn into more. The actions of the authorities do not look like a "mistake", at first they were not allowed to retire, then they were deprived of their jobs, moreover, millions, buried the "private trader" ... what next? run ???
    2. +21
      8 May 2020 06: 33
      Well, if the top leadership, headed by the president and prime minister, was self-isolated from the problems of the people, it is logical that in response the people began to isolate themselves from such power.
    3. +15
      8 May 2020 07: 12
      So already clogs. We have a mask mode in the city, no more than a third go in masks. Because in the pharmacies these masks were not, and not. Or maybe just not hunting.
      1. 0
        8 May 2020 07: 18
        we have masks for almost everyone, but they are in their pockets)))) it’s hard to walk along the street and breathe through the mask
        1. +8
          8 May 2020 07: 22
          By the way, this is not very clear to me. I go to reusable and do not experience inconvenience. Maybe the model was lucky.
          1. +12
            8 May 2020 07: 32
            on the street you need to breathe fresh air and wear a mask when in contact with people
            1. +9
              8 May 2020 07: 37
              I do not quite agree with this opinion :) I have a fairly large city, good weather, so people on the streets of the crowd cannot get away from everyone by 2 meters. Therefore, if the oncoming pedestrian sneezes at you, the effect will be the same as in the room. On the deserted streets - yes, of course you can wear a mask.
              1. +11
                8 May 2020 08: 47
                If the oncoming pedestrian sneezes at you and you are in a mask but not in protective glasses, you will be infected through the mucous membrane of the eye!
              2. +5
                8 May 2020 10: 40
                the oncoming pedestrian if he constantly sneezes then there should be a mask, the mask is not from the virus but from the spread of it
          2. +10
            8 May 2020 08: 49
            Dear Not_invented. "I go in reusable and do not experience any inconvenience." - Your phrase. Has your mask been certified? Does it have a bactericidal layer? Or is your reusable mask made of woven materials and bought "in a stall, in a store"? Such masks are not a medical device and are not accompanied by instructions for use. How often do you change your mask during the day? How many masks do you carry with you? You use the mask correctly (a mask equipped with a paper filter is changed every 1 hours; a mask treated with a special bactericidal agent is worn for about 2 - 3 hours; If the mask is wet from coughing, sneezing or breathing, change it immediately.) ???
            Questions are some questions. At the beginning of somo isolation, I heard a speech by a virologist who said: 100% protection can only be provided with a respirator that is designed to protect against Poisoning Substances.
            1. +3
              8 May 2020 10: 23
              The mask, I believe, is certified, because it was bought before anyone even heard about the coronavirus for the first time. There is clearly no bactericidal layer there, but coronavirus is not a bacterium, so in this sense the layer is not required, only from other pathogens. As follows from one of my previous works on the site, we have confirmed the case of coronavirus at the entrance, so I only go to the store, which takes much less than 2 hours. The used mask is soaked in soapy water, washed and dried. As far as I know, this complies with the rules for the operation of such products.
              I dare to suggest that we do not need a respirator for poisonous substances, because the protective filters for different substances are different, but an anti-aerosol filter that traps such small particles as viruses purely mechanically.
            2. +8
              8 May 2020 11: 39
              Quote: AA17
              Has your mask been certified? Does it have a bactericidal layer?

              and you will assure the same with respect to masks sold in pharmacies and the metro, shops and stalls or with hands?
        2. 0
          8 May 2020 10: 06
          You should not wear a mask on the street. She is for the premises.
        3. +3
          8 May 2020 13: 16
          C'mon, I’m at work for 12 hours wearing a mask and gloves ... I walk about 10 km and drive along Mink somewhere 100/120 km. It breathes fine! ...
      2. +7
        8 May 2020 08: 36
        Quote: Not_invented
        Because in the pharmacies these masks were not, and not.

        In my city, they solved the problem with masks, they sell them in all pharmacies and even in stalls, they found their local ones, and then the Governor issued an order to introduce a mask regime, without masks it is impossible in stores, institutions or transport. The most interesting is said openly: what do you want, businessmen in power invested in these masks, now you need to repay the denyuzhka yes with a profit Yes
        1. +11
          8 May 2020 11: 50
          Quote: Anatol Klim
          The most interesting is said openly: what do you want, businessmen in power invested in these masks, now you need to repay the denyuzhka yes with a profit

          to whom is war, and to whom is mother dear!
          The "to" mask costs within 1 ruble, now a mask costs 19-20 rubles on Aliexpress
          And such a price pays off!
          For us, power brings in masks at a much higher price!

          It’s not a pity for Sobyanin to spend 13 billion rubles on the curb, but don’t give out the masks, but it’s a pity to sell at least at cost.
          Power stupidly earns money. Why reanimate the economy, why high oil prices! Replenish the budget deficit at the expense of masks and fines! It's Russia!
    4. +17
      8 May 2020 08: 29
      Quote: Dalny V
      I completely agree, the root cause is the inadequacy and incompetence of the measures taken by the authorities.

      You are mistaken. The main reason is the inadequacy of the authorities themselves. And inadequacy of measures ... This is a consequence, not a cause.
    5. -13
      8 May 2020 08: 47
      The authorities did everything right, but for you, apparently, you need to just like in Turkmenistan to ban the disease, there is no disease, there are no cases, and it doesn’t matter that mortality reaches 30 percent. Do you even know that in Europe there are a lot of countries with more 10%? This is, as it were, the plague, only it doesn’t cause a few hundred, but several hundred thousand.
      1. +9
        8 May 2020 10: 28
        Our authorities always do everything right. Putting a doctor on self-isolation due to coronavirus in the entrance without saving a salary and conducting a test (see my previous note on the site) is also correct. Doctors do not eat in Russia. Only treated. the best in the world.
    6. +8
      8 May 2020 11: 34
      Quote: Dalny V
      A sort of silent protest, almost according to Gandhi.

      initially! And then - quite the format of the relationship may change. Any protest "against masks" can easily turn into a protest against the authorities, which is not surprising.
  3. +9
    8 May 2020 06: 27
    This virus is not going anywhere, we have to get it and develop general immunity, the mortality rate from it is not high with us, so it's normal, in any case, there will be another wave of diseases with this COVID 19 in the fall.
    1. AUL
      +11
      8 May 2020 08: 29
      Quote: Pessimist22
      in the fall there will be another wave of diseases with this COVID 19.

      And again, the authorities will not know what to do, as they do now. But something else is worse for me. All pandemics, even more terrible than this covid, come to an end at some point - and plague, and cholera, and smallpox, and other abominations. And how will the country get out of the consequences of the pandemic - economic, financial, social? The current government at all levels has shown its complete impotence and mediocrity! And after covid, the situation in the country will not be better than in 45. How will we get out? I'm not worried about myself (it's time for me to "vacate the living space"), I have children and grandchildren, they will continue to live here!
      All of health!
      1. +3
        8 May 2020 09: 39
        I don’t know how anyone, but I only get everything by my own labor, a garden, a garden, bees, greenhouses, work in the city, I think I can prepare for new isolation and for winter.
  4. +11
    8 May 2020 06: 37
    An epidemic is a situation in which more than 5% of the population becomes ill. So while the coronavirus is not pulling on an epidemic.
    To develop collective immunity, about 60% of the population should be ill. Before this, we too are far away.
    Self-isolation is designed to smooth out the peak of incidence, to stretch it in time, so that the health system copes with its capacity with the number of cases.
    Masks are effective only when they are worn by patients. Wearing them helps healthy people, mainly psychologically.
    Gloves are not needed, as the virus is not transmitted through the skin. And to scratch your eyes and nose, you can quite successfully with gloves.
    In a private car, the probability of getting infected is almost zero, which cannot be said about public transport.
    The probability of infection in the nearest grocery store is no less than in any other. Why closed non-food stores and allowed to visit only the next?
    Walk the dog within 100 meters of the house. And then the coronavirus sits in an ambush?
    The inefficiency and stupidity of the measures is simply amazing. As well as the size of fines.
    The price of onions for the week rose more than 1,5 times. Prices for masks, lemons, ginger ... FAS, ay !!!
    1. +9
      8 May 2020 07: 14
      FAS yesterday woke up, there will be lemons for 400r checked for cartel conspiracy.
      1. +10
        8 May 2020 09: 56
        We are introducing a mask mode. Huber said the masks will be available at affordable prices. I went to the Crossroads. Disposable mask over 100 rubles. It seems to me that the affordable price for me and for him are completely different prices. Who raised the prices for masks tenfold? I am plagued by vague doubts that these "who" have to do with those who introduce the mask regime.
    2. -14
      8 May 2020 09: 56
      The stupidity of your comment is amazing too. Say, how do you know that you do not have a coronavirus?
      1. +12
        8 May 2020 10: 01
        We are so close friends that we switched to you? Or canceled the elementary rules of politeness on the site in connection with the coronavirus?
        1. -14
          8 May 2020 11: 58
          Quote: Mikhail M
          We are so close friends that we switched to you? Or canceled the elementary rules of politeness on the site in connection with the coronavirus?

          You do not hide behind the rules of courtesy. You answer the question. Or crowed, and then at least do not dawn?
    3. +5
      8 May 2020 10: 10
      People do not have a brain. We ourselves have created a problem of hype. What is lemon from the virus? What side does ginger help you with? The only panacea is water charged in front of the TV. The drug of all time.
      1. +9
        8 May 2020 10: 40
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        The only panacea is water charged in front of the TV.

        Unfortunately, Chumak is not. I have to use Solovyov and Kiselev. Well, masks that help at the level of charged water.
        1. +2
          8 May 2020 11: 50
          Quote: Mikhail M
          I have to use Solovyov and Kiselyov

          Sorry for you ..
        2. -1
          8 May 2020 11: 59
          Well, that is, in China they help around the world help, and we have a damned place that does not work?
    4. 0
      8 May 2020 13: 21
      In a personal car, just what you can if you do not follow a couple of tips
      CONDITION DO NOT include !!!
      The pressure in the cabin is greater than the pressure outside the window, i.e. we drive the air in the cabin ..
  5. +3
    8 May 2020 06: 42
    Quote: Dalny V
    Further, I suppose, the people will simply begin to openly hammer on all these stupid directions of those in power, and one way or another will begin to work.

    I agree with this (I see in my city that small business began to work by spitting on all this self-isolation),
    Quote: Dalny V
    Oh, my heart smells, sho we are on the eve of a grandiose schukher ... (c)
    And at the expense of "nix" there is a good article on Yandex Zen https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5d6000a4ba281e00ad6e6c3b/vozmojen-li-bunt-v-rossii-chast-pervaia-siloviki-5eb0417c49d6c31325adad5c
    , 2-part article, read, small protest Potential, local manifestations can certainly happen like a rally in Vladikavkaz, which will quickly crush
  6. +6
    8 May 2020 06: 48
    Russia will be in an honorable second place in the total number of cases

    asymptomatic carriers of the virus continue to live an ordinary life, and they are also considered ... any person is a carrier of a variety of viruses that are activated under favorable conditions for them ... some people get sick, others have immunity ... but statistics - that draws : where I turned, it turned out ...
  7. +15
    8 May 2020 06: 55
    Yes, you can’t drive your car, on the bus, taxi, metro please. The crowd can go to the store on the river bank, observing a distance no-by, the police running after the people around. Yes, and we do not believe the authorities see that they are trying to drag their own laws on chip-populating the population, distance education for the poor and full-time for the rich, and if the FSF needs to be tolerated, it’s still allowed.
    1. 0
      8 May 2020 07: 42
      Oh, I would have to work on a chip that, after injecting a syringe through a needle (so tiny), is not visible on the X-ray (all-plastic, apparently), but (without an energy source) performs its monitoring function (is there GPS inside?) actions of the population.
      1. +5
        8 May 2020 08: 58
        "Eh, I would like to work with such a chip ..." Sorry for the immodest question: Why do you need this? Do you want to introduce it to yourself or your employees? Would you like to introduce this chip to your family members?
        1. 0
          8 May 2020 10: 40
          No, it’s just that current technologies have not even come close to such characteristics. Anyone who is the first to receive such technologies will be out of competition in the consumer electronics market. Microcircuits - after all, they all rivet on the same principle - this or that variation on the topic of photolithography. So if this superchip has such characteristics, then any other with any other function can also be reduced. And bust Apple in a couple of months.
          And about the introduction of the family, so exist such a chip, it would introduce. It can be made to monitor heart rate, pressure. The dream of any doctor.
          1. +2
            8 May 2020 10: 59
            Why such modest desires, only to monitor the pressure? And if you develop further: regulate the pressure, that is, control the pressure. For example: reduce. THE TRUTH IS A SMALL Trivia: and if someone from outside wants to increase the pressure to 220-240 points and arrange a stroke? And what prospects are opening: to control the human brain !!!
            1. +4
              8 May 2020 11: 04
              Let's imagine that you have a thermometer. It allows you to measure temperature. Does the thermometer allow you to control the temperature? No. We know how to measure temperature with a tiny temperature sensor, but no one has any idea how to control it, otherwise paracetamols, ibuprofen and other things would not be needed. Same thing with pressure. To reduce pressure, people with hypertension drink pills daily. Yes, if there were a chip in the world that could control pressure, they would be the first to register for an injection, because they die from this increased pressure! There are no such technologies. The control task and the measurement task are tasks that are incommensurable in complexity.
              Regarding brain control. You can’t imagine how much I want the brain-computer interface to appear. This will change society so much that the revolution brought by the Internet will fade. Unfortunately, no one now understands how the brain works. No one understands what consciousness is. People just don’t know this. Therefore, brain control does not shine for us either.
              1. 0
                17 May 2020 16: 59
                Let me also insert my "5 kopecks" into this topic? ...
              2. 0
                17 May 2020 17: 28
                ... It's the same with pressure. To reduce blood pressure, people with hypertension take pills daily. If there were a chip in the world that could control the pressure, they would be the first to sign up for an injection, because they are dying from this increased pressure! ... Yes, I agree with you. Usually. But there are exceptions to every rule. High blood pressure, according to the head of the department, saved me. There was a microstroke, 3 years before retirement. Took the ambulance straight from work. The right side began to live its own life - absolutely, at times, not obeying me. I didn't understand what was happening. For a week I went to work like a zombie ... Now it's scary to remember, when the understanding came ... Clinic (fortunately it was VHI), Then a sanatorium. In general, the doctors "raised" me. And a week or two before that, yes ... I came to the first-aid post - my sister rolled out her eyes - 202 to 100, and the pulse was 98 ... - Do you need to call an ambulance? .. - No need ... A tablet of a capotena ... everything is fine ... Now the tonometer is in the bedroom - next to it, on the bedside table. And the morning definitely does not start with coffee and a cigarette ...
      2. +2
        8 May 2020 10: 43
        You carry such a chip in your pocket. The mobile phone is called.
        1. +1
          8 May 2020 10: 45
          A mobile phone is many orders of magnitude larger than the size of a chip for mythical chipization.
  8. +13
    8 May 2020 06: 55
    PS According to the author, at the end of March it was necessary to put the whole country in general quarantine with the introduction of emergency situations for three weeks and full compensation of salaries from the reserve fund, plus the introduction of such fines so that even the oligarchs would crack the budget. It would be cheaper than the current "self-isolation" with the slow death of the business.
    Wrong opinion. Then it was enough to introduce tough measures in Moscow and the region. By quarantining, all those who are trying to get through it and especially leave. The remaining areas were supposed to remain in standby mode while continuing to work. The authorities allowed the spread of this infection throughout the country and only at the end of April, having realized it, they began to demand self-quarantine for everyone who came from Moscow ... late, too late.
    1. +2
      8 May 2020 07: 16
      International flights fly not only through Moscow. So the outbreak in the country was clearly not only in Moscow. Although, of course, I can’t cite this fact.
      1. +7
        8 May 2020 07: 23
        Quote: Not_invented
        International flights fly not only through Moscow.

        At that moment, the borders were almost closed, and international flights were carried out through one terminal of Sheremetev
        1. +4
          8 May 2020 07: 25
          We are talking about different points, apparently. I'm talking about the moment of detection of the first cases in the Russian Federation. The complete closure of borders did not happen immediately afterwards.
    2. +7
      8 May 2020 10: 03
      The authorities had three months left since the epidemic in China gained momentum. And no nichrome was made. The general impression of all the actions is that there are no well-developed scenarios for the development of the situation, there are really no plans. Everything is solved instantly. And the right hand sometimes does not know what the left does.
  9. VLR
    +5
    8 May 2020 07: 03
    There was an interesting article in Novaya Gazeta:
    https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2020/04/29/85159-kak-nas-duryat
    The point is that when a massive blood test was performed for the presence of antibodies to Covid (a marker that a person was ill), it turned out that the real mortality from this infection is as follows:
    In the county of Santa Clara (California) - 0,12-0,2%. In the county of Los Angeles - 0,18-0,36%. In Gangelt (Germany) - 0,37%. In the state of New York - 0,58%, in the city of New York - 0,86%
    And mortality from the commonplace flu is about 1% percent.
    That is, humanity was amicably frightened of the "painted" monster: like a child who invented a monster living under the bed and is now afraid to sleep.
    Therefore, it is urgent to organize mass blood tests of Russians: perhaps many have already had this "terrible, fatal disease", but did not pay any attention to it.
    And new cases are detected only because they began to take "smears" en masse - if they were taken in winter and early spring, they would reveal the sick dozens of times more (if not hundreds).
    By the way, WHO has already recognized that Covid appeared in Europe in December 2019.
    1. +2
      8 May 2020 07: 19
      Where in California the county is interesting. There are no graphs either. Only dukes, princes and marquises live there
      1. VLR
        +8
        8 May 2020 07: 26
        Counties in the former colonies of the United Kingdom from the British (British) - and in the United States there are counties (although there are no counts) in Australia and New Zealand. We have districts, they have counties.
        1. +6
          8 May 2020 07: 39
          in fact, for the county in English the word earldom is provided. In the US, everyone calls County. This word is broad, suitable both for the county and simply for the county or district. This word can be correctly translated as a county only for lands that really belonged to the count (or some other feudal lord) to some one in the past. Otherwise, the only correct translation is essentially a district.
        2. +4
          8 May 2020 07: 54
          In order not to be unfounded, here is the English-language list of counties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earldoms
          It is completely absent and the United States and Australia and Zealand
          1. VLR
            +6
            8 May 2020 08: 02
            I quoted from the article. As for the essence of the issue, these are the subtleties of translation: in Novaya Gazeta, apparently, the translator is not a very great specialist, he translated literally. Yes, Santa Clara County is better and more accurate than Santa Clara County. But fundamentally, in the essence of the problem, this does not change anything. Now, if he translated the word artist as "actor" - that would be a different matter, because he is an artist.
            1. +1
              8 May 2020 08: 14
              Well, apparently so. Just a rumor cut through
    2. -2
      8 May 2020 08: 11
      Yes, what did you all go wrong - sick, sick .. Those who have found covid, they all writhe in pain? It is just infected. In humans, more than 2 kg of all sorts of viruses, bacteria and other rubbish. So what? Each of us has a bunch of terrible diseases? These scary thousands of infected people are not talking about anything. Only the number of those in intensive care is really exciting. And then, it’s a very slippery question - what really caused the person to feel sick, from covida or from the stress that thundered into this damn hospital, everyone walks in spacesuits and every day the journalists tell him - you will die, you will die ..
    3. +2
      8 May 2020 11: 53
      Quote: VlR
      By the way, WHO has already recognized that Covid appeared in Europe in December 2019.

      And this is not news .. In Italy, he appeared just before the New Year, when clothing stores announced New Year's discounts. People from all over the world, especially from China, were there.
    4. 0
      9 May 2020 15: 50
      Quote: VlR
      And mortality from the commonplace flu is about 1% percent.
      This is where you read it? in the original article, mortality from influenza - 0.04%
  10. +9
    8 May 2020 07: 21
    PS According to the author, at the end of March it was necessary to put the whole country in general quarantine with the introduction of emergency situations for three weeks and full compensation of salaries from the reserve fund, plus the introduction of such fines so that even the oligarchs would crack the budget. It would be cheaper than the current "self-isolation" with the slow death of the business.

    This idea has been voiced for some time "in the kitchens" of Moscow doctors. But the unprofessional Moscow leadership did not dare to do this, since "quarantine workers" had to pay triple their salary. We decided to save money. As a result, the
    1. -8
      8 May 2020 08: 19
      And what are they actually saving up for? What happened? The performance will go on for a couple more weeks, and then everything will return back. Which of the writers here knows the real picture of losses and gains? And, most importantly, who understands at least something in this? It is clear that some of the citizens suffered. And there are those who made a profit. At first they inspired everyone to die, everyone will die. Now they are convincing that the economy has collapsed, the government is such a bad one (one cannot write obscenities here, but one really wants to). As for power, I agree in principle. But it is embarrassing that all this passes like a skillfully induced psychosis.
  11. +9
    8 May 2020 08: 11
    Power is not good, and in this matter
  12. +7
    8 May 2020 08: 30
    Now, after the failure of the parody of "quarantine", the media are promoting the idea of ​​herd immunity. This is from hopelessness. So far, doctors find too many in that epidemic "atypical" to claim that COVID "will die by itself." Whether there will be a stable immunity, what is the rate of mutations, how the virus spreads - so far only speculations.
    Well, and how many millions this world will leave - it will be a tragedy! But you could save these people: just introduce tough adequate quarantine measures at the border.
    1. -9
      8 May 2020 09: 18
      So they actually entered. Stop talking nonsense.
  13. +6
    8 May 2020 08: 36
    Yes, what self-isolation is there! Even if in our village all the people were disciplinedly locked in apartments, the water supply system is flimsy, plumbing devices due to poverty of the population are the cheapest. I put a new faucet in the bathroom six months ago, and it is already flowing, so you need to call the plumbing. And so it is for everyone. So our plumbers go to apartments - from the very beginning of self-isolation. Continuously go! And if they visit the apartment of an infected person, then, consider, the whole village will get sick.
    Flowing tap in my bathroom, flowing. I watch how the counter is spinning quietly. Plumbing is not calling. Till.
    1. +3
      8 May 2020 22: 04
      Quote: depressant
      I watch how the counter is spinning quietly.

      Stick the magnet, maybe it will stop.
      1. 0
        9 May 2020 06: 35
        I would also put ... But the antimagnetic seal is in trouble)))
        1. +3
          9 May 2020 06: 57
          Quote: Minus
          But the trouble is the antimagnetic seal is)))

          Then you need to drill a small hole and lock the twist with a needle.
      2. 0
        17 May 2020 16: 42
        Yeah. They (that is, counters) have long been antimagnetic ... Passed stage.
  14. -3
    8 May 2020 08: 45
    And in what place will Russia be in the number of deaths? On the first from the end? We conduct just a huge number of tests, respectively, and identify a bunch of infected with mild or asymptomatic. My sister was forced to take a test. Maybe they will force us with the whole organization.
    1. +5
      8 May 2020 09: 11
      Well then yes ... In the spaces of the former Union the people have always been strong.
      At maximum, infection gives a sharp exponent of mortality and mortality. So it’s better not to relax.
      PS. How many of your population lives in remote villages (Yakut, Chita, etc.)? Maybe it’s just that not all deaths have been connected with the coronovirus, lack of information .. exactly, is everything transparent?
      1. +1
        8 May 2020 09: 17
        It is unlikely that more than one percent of the population lives there, which is generally unclear how it should be infected simply because of its remoteness from the outbreaks of the epidemic. But even think about it in any way, it is much easier to spray with saliva, proceeding in hatred of the authorities.

        As for the maximum, for the last day we have 88 deaths, and in Italy, where everything is already ending, 274, in the USA 1926. We are a couple of weeks behind Europe. Well with you, kebab lovers maybe 3.
        1. DVR
          0
          8 May 2020 11: 08
          We are a couple of weeks behind Europe.

          We are behind the European four leaders at the existing mortality rates by more than six months.
    2. +2
      8 May 2020 10: 51
      In our entrance, a case was confirmed, but my wife, a pediatrician, didn’t have a test. The entrance is, you see, not close enough contact. But she was entitled to leave at her own expense for 2 weeks, because for the test the contact is not close, but close for work.
  15. +1
    8 May 2020 08: 47
    I dare say that everyone is to blame.

    Obvious and very likely!
  16. +3
    8 May 2020 08: 50
    // Even at the nearest store, sellers wear masks on their chins. It’s probably more comfortable to breathe.
    We generally believe that the chin is the most infectious part of the body ..
  17. +2
    8 May 2020 08: 54
    // Maybe carry it //
    But this, no offense, the Russians will add a lot of problems and take their lives. It's a kind of war ... this infection.
  18. +10
    8 May 2020 09: 39
    All right. BUT alas. Elite How about yourself, Moscow elite and fine.

    It’s possible on Far East all at once - once - and in quarantine for two weeks. And in Moscow, officials and artists returning from Italy - no way! And Lev Leshchenko - no way! And do not let in the church, and hard quarantine - no way !!
    This is a direct bomb! under the rule of the scrupon elite!

    But the queues in the subway, in stores - you can. Not vips, endure. And: at VO there was: a queue of late foreign children elita for export to the Russian Federation. It turns out that there are such people in Asia, both in USA and in England. But about hard quarantine for such - not a word ... except Asia - from there it was about quarantine. There VIPs are not enough VIPs ...

    And that’s all. On the map of Moscow oblast, one can clearly see in color how the disease spreads from Moscow precisely along the working roads. On elite - here nifiga ....
  19. +4
    8 May 2020 10: 50
    Quote: Not_invented
    By the way, this is not very clear to me. I go to reusable and do not experience inconvenience. Maybe the model was lucky.

    It is reusable, it must be disinfected every two hours. But there are no disposable masks in pharmacies in our city .. And the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation allowed the sale of masks abroad ... And what does this mean ... Help is also kind of from the state ... I’m sitting without work on a suction, I asked for a vacation (car loan was refused because a loan of 630 thousand (the balance of 400 thousand), argue that a hundred vacations are provided with a car loan of up to 600 thousand. A relative was refused for consumer because the loan amount is more than 200 thousand ..
    1. +2
      8 May 2020 11: 56
      So I have not walked for more than two hours. To the store only.
      I like the three million mortgage under 6.5 for comfort class housing. At us on odnushku comfort class just from three prices in the city begin. If she is out of somewhere, where the bus goes every three hours.
    2. +1
      8 May 2020 21: 28
      Valery, how are you? BEER sent me on Wednesday a cellular offer. Right now, I’ll rewrite briefly ... IMYAREK, now you can get a loan from home! Submit an application, find out a solution and get money online on a card or .... Amount 314 000 r at 16,9 per annum for 60 months, payment 7877 r-months. Quick, easy, safe ... PJSC Sberbank. Read it? Now you can laugh ...
      1. +3
        8 May 2020 21: 44
        Quote: Dingo
        BEER sent me on Wednesday a cellular offer. Right now, I’ll rewrite briefly ... IMYAREK, now you can get a loan from home! Submit an application, find out a solution and get money online on a card or .... Amount 314 000 r at 16,9 per annum for 60 months, payment 7877 r-months. Quick, easy, safe ... PJSC Sberbank. Read it? Now you can laugh ...

        Similar nonsense just today by SMS came. Some kind of credit gold card up to 300 rubles. But they stopped accepting Internet phone payments in cash at ATMs. Horned male goats.
  20. +2
    8 May 2020 10: 52
    Oh yes, how much can you do with this coronavirus ((But really the nonsense is that everything opens. People walk in heaps, everyone spat on the distance. We have an isolation index of 1,8 now. That is, people dofigisa ... We were forced to work at work go through training courses here - https://astobr.com/ Well, in general, the plus is that it will be useful remotely)) At least something good
  21. +7
    8 May 2020 11: 14
    Firstly, the Orthodox Easter happened.
    Secondly, on April 15 there was a pandemonium in the Moscow metro, which occurred due to the introduction of passes.

    this is an obvious fact, although the "major theoretical doctors" deny it ...
    Quote: bk316
    you are a hypothetical doctor.

    how do you with the maximum incubation goof. laughing
    .

    Note that these "specialists" do not even know about the existence of orders and recommendations of the RF Ministry of Health on this account!
  22. +6
    8 May 2020 11: 30
    According to the results of the coronavirus pandemic, Russia will be in an honorable second place in the total number of cases, losing only to the eternal enemy - the United States.

    without a doubt! And, judging by the hurriedly built ersatz hospitals in shopping and entertainment centers, the authorities are well aware of this, although only a week ago such a forecast for putriots was a red rag. Alas, reality is upsetting even persistent patterns.
    Quote: bk316

    Let's bet that we will not catch up. I am a mathematician. You are a doctor, we will assume that both are not bad. laughing
    So we find out who the best forecasts are given by mathematicians or doctors.
  23. +4
    8 May 2020 12: 05
    The pandemic situation is depressing ... If you think about it, there are several reasons for this ..
    1) The lack of a national concept for combating a pandemic .. It could be created 2-3 months ago ..
    2) The extension of the holidays with self-isolation instead of quarantine was announced .. There is a legislative framework for quarantine ... but the law does not say about self-isolation
    3) When it was necessary to explain to the people about the danger, all sorts of nonsense was transmitted through the channels ... all kinds of doctors came out and powdered the brains of the people that there was no virus, it was a fake, it was safe, it was more wonderful than miracles .. That’s why the people are confused
    4) The complete incompetence of officials who, by their actions, aggravated the situation .. Judging by what was said on May 6, nonsense continues at all levels
    1. +4
      8 May 2020 21: 06
      not just stupidity, as you said. Criminal negligence and incompetence. (Art. CC). I remember someone said - "... I don't see landings ..." ... So, I remembered ...
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  25. +1
    8 May 2020 16: 12
    And here the other day I was "knocked" about the children on the playground. The coronavirus is not a coronavirus, and if such "signals" are already received, then this is all "Brainwashing and complete seams" Even the economy is resting before that
  26. +2
    8 May 2020 16: 50
    According to the author, at the end of March it was necessary to put the whole country in general quarantine with the introduction of emergency


    And the author knows what Ch.S. and how should it work?
  27. +8
    8 May 2020 18: 36
    According to the author, at the end of March it was necessary to put the whole country in general quarantine with the introduction of an emergency for three weeks and full compensation of salaries from the reserve fund, plus the introduction of such fines so that even the oligarchs would crack the budget. It would be cheaper than the current "self-isolation" with the slow death of the business.
    Yeah, schazz ... Are you inattentively surfing the Internet? Or are you fond of watching the "zombie box"? .. Siluanov made it clear - "helicopter" money will not be - "the budget will crack" ... Their muzzles will definitely not crack ... What remains? (Hope dies last, however. ..) The medicine. Who killed her? Oh, sorry - "optimized"? Zurabov? So this dude managed to play a dirty trick in his time in the Pension Fund of the Russian Federation, turning from a "pension" into a "funeral" ... Golikov? This "fitonyashka" in her current post sincerely believes that the minimum wage should, in her opinion, be calculated "... taking into account other parameters" .... (which ones? Ask her yourself - you are people - and not the "electorate") Skvortsova ? ... a cherry on the cake ... This lady is already three years old, how to sew work gloves in a Mordovian colony ... You look - I would have rewound half a term ... But no. Chief infectious disease specialist! there is asceticism .... And this old, greasy deck is procrastinating, shuffling ... And the "otvetka" here it is - flew in ... I checked for lice and power, and "health care", and "pension reform", and these, with drove "ER", and this bureaucratic scum with their "macaroshkas", and nouveau riche oligarchs, whom Peskov called "socially responsible" managers ... these effectively "defective" ..., and this "itch" Duma (what- then the "mad printer" stopped talking) ... I CHECKED EVERYTHING. No guys. I am not gloating. It just boiled.
    1. -3
      8 May 2020 18: 39
      Well, rushing you there ... Frankly.
      1. +2
        8 May 2020 20: 56
        Pavel - do you have any other suggestions? Speak - listening to you.
    2. +1
      9 May 2020 20: 33
      Agree to all 100 hi
  28. +6
    8 May 2020 19: 02
    Yes, the other day a friend called - Vit, borrow a couple of thousand .. if you can .. He and his family are sitting on two thirds ... From the tariff. Of course, Ser ... no question. (Housing and communal services in SBER I have already paid Gref ... for "rubbish" 360,62 - also ... (what the hell is rubbish from two pensioners!) .. What else ... the Internet ... a five-grader granddaughter almost lives with us - with her "remote control" ... Yes, and eat ... There is still a little left on the card ... Yes, and the pension will soon be 19 with a penny (experience since 1976, "white") and my wife 8 with a small "tail" (since 1980 - at the end of the 90s, under liberalism, in an envelope the "owner", like, paid) .. Seryoga is worse. A little younger than me - but the authorities "added" a term to him ... - Of course I will, Seryozha. Come ... and we survive. "IM" we do not understand ...
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  30. +2
    8 May 2020 19: 22
    And the next comment was deleted by the "author" ... It is getting more and more interesting ...
  31. +2
    8 May 2020 19: 31
    All clear. Okay, well, fuck this pandemic ... Let's talk about creativity, huh? Do you know such a singer, musician "Trofim"? Sergei Vyacheslavovich Trofimov "at one of the elections" was the "confidant" of the Russian presidential candidate ... Yes, yes, the current one. Do you want to know his work in general terms? Well, don't delete, let me tell you, eh?
  32. +3
    8 May 2020 19: 46
    Google it ... He has a lot of albums there. But we (these are nephews. One - then still a captain (201 division, Tajikistan) and then a major (both Chechen - and immeasurable business trips) liked this one ... - The ceremonial uniform was dusty on the shelf ... "" ... to this poor, wretched, downtrodden country, so similar to a common zone - we are going on a task where every step we take is illegal, illegal "... One is now retired, the second is an OMON regiment ...
  33. +2
    8 May 2020 19: 50
    "... We got the fate to protect this world FROM THE LAW - OUTSIDE THE LAW ..."
  34. +4
    8 May 2020 19: 58
    ... not everything is so glorious in the Danish kingdom ... Some kind of Danish rot in the state ... "No, it's Shakespeare. In Boris Pasternak's translation ... if my memory serves me ... All the best, don't get sick. Take care of yourself and your loved ones .. Have pity on the doctors - you won't envy them right now ... Lenka, my younger sister, I have not called for a long time ... It hurts to hear her voice after the shift ... She is a doctor.
    1. +3
      8 May 2020 22: 31
      Dingo colleague, I heard you. With all my heart - thanks for the sincerity! hi
      1. +2
        9 May 2020 11: 38
        Lyudmila Yakovlevna - I'm not a doctor. Retired techie. All that is said here is sincerely and sincerely. Happy Holiday!
  35. +3
    9 May 2020 11: 28
    The most interesting thing is yet to come and the point is not in one virus .... Although authorities say that they have already defeated the virus.
    1. +2
      9 May 2020 12: 31
      Mikhail, I hope that you are right. Yes, it's not about the virus ... It's just that he "highlighted" (a term from the service. It's just that I'm an automated control system operator ... 1st grade ... yes, former ... in Sary-Shagan, on Soyuz-79 "we found a" cure "for the" axes "of these, so-called" partners. "The Commander-in-Chief of Air Defense, Air Defense Marshal Koldunov, shook my hand, thanks for the service ... to the conscript sergeant ... wet, sweaty ... unbuttoned" to navel ".. But they did it - they found a cure for this" exceptional "punks ... Sorry - I remembered ...) everything that was hushed up for years and decades ... Apparently - it's time to make a choice.
    2. +1
      9 May 2020 15: 01
      I spoke about this on the forum of the magazine "BEHIND the RULE" - in the "Meet - AVTOVAZ" branch .. the editors sent a separate link to the "box" - "invitation to cooperation" ... But then we were obliged to sign "NON-DISCLOSURE" .. And I was still two years old before retirement ... And to survive in Togliatti ... Yes, the magazine's "electronic" still comes to the mailbox ... The guys from the editorial office clearly keep their word ...
  36. +4
    9 May 2020 11: 52
    I went 3 weeks ago to the Ryazan region ... The route was 450 km ... 1 time they stopped at the entrance to the Ryazan region they asked if I feel good .... I arrived, everything works there. Crowds of Muscovites turned into a province ... All the shops, all crowded places. Who does not work? Electricians do not work, road workers, and everyone who doesn’t get around and works in the fresh air ... He arrived, honestly informed the authorities, went into deaf quarantine for 2 weeks. While I was sitting there, listening to the radio, there were absolutely mutually exclusive messages from the official authorities .... I came out, I got it ... Nobody is observing anything in the province, people are wandering in droves. Visitors, 70% do not get quarantined ... I’m going back, stocked with passes. I got it for the 3rd time, the flow of Muscovites to the region and out of town, traffic jams ... ALL posts have been removed, that's all! Conclusions: 1. Actually, we were abandoned, according to the principle, the strongest and most healthy will survive. 2. The people are disoriented by the authorities, completely stupefied (that’s why they are drawn to wild extremes). 3. The people are completely deaf and selfish (all do not care about the life and health of others), he abandoned himself. And conclusion 4: Our cataclysms will not end with the virus, there will be much more .... Good or bad, I don’t know. But I wish all the good Russian people to stay alive.
    1. +3
      9 May 2020 14: 39
      Mikhail, I completely agree with you. The same is in the Samara region. In particular, in Togliatti. The most interesting thing is that you don't have to blame people for nihilism ... They just have it all already ..... lo, all this hypocrisy is entoy, like, the authorities ... Here it is, "otvetka" and "backlighting" .... None there "Bulk-Nasralnye" entoy authorities are not afraid ... It's just a "splint", a fake ... a boy for beating puppeteers ... Well, "Petrushka", a mitten on the puppeteer's hand ...
      1. 0
        9 May 2020 23: 12
        It’s a cut-in ... And they give him info ...
  37. +3
    9 May 2020 11: 54
    Happy Holidays, my dear compatriots! Happy Holiday!
  38. +1
    9 May 2020 13: 35
    ... and despite this virus - Let's drink for the Motherland! Let's drink for Stalin! Let's drink, and pour it again .. Let's drink for those who commanded companies, who died (froze?) In the snow. Who was pushing into swamps in Leningrad, breaking the throat (squeezing?) To the enemy ... Sorry - as a keepsake ... I heard this song from my father and his guys .. When, a long time ago, they gathered from time to time ... Who came out of August environment to their ... Taking the first blow in the Belarusian (special) district ... Yes, they drank ... smoked .. sang ...- and cried. Guys, God forbid you to see this ... I saw it as a child - my mother didn’t save it ... Nobody will tell you this anymore ... current ones will not show it ... This is such a war ... Who wants to repeat it? Lift your ass off the couch ...
  39. +1
    9 May 2020 18: 16
    Did you talk about the virus? About the inability of entoy, the so-called. "The authorities" to do something - too ... In the fall it will come back to haunt .. And what are you doing? .. - as my granddaughter said ... And to eat, steal, lie - it still did not benefit anyone .. Short-term devidents - yes. .. If they manage to escape ... They won't have time? .. Well, the relatives will use it, they'll probably say thank you ... they'll cry ... Fuck them ... I'm talking about something else now. About education. The virus has "highlighted" another aspect - the education of our children. Much has been said about the so-called "Bologna" system. Yes, the "test system" is suitable for the "education" of juvenile convicts in EU prisons. There is tolerance ... It is necessary to somehow raise the level of their self-awareness as a person. In order to avoid further, "unmotivated" crimes ... In their opinion. You will say - what have our children to do with it? Moreover ... This "Bologna" system (which many countries have already abandoned in connection with the fall in crime) - was developed in the Russian Federation ... with the "chasing" the Unified State Exam ... (the victim of the Unified State Exam is an insult) ... I'm wrong? Okay, let's turn to Valya Matvienko ... Who, with her "icy" look, stopped the escape of her "colleague" ... When Bastrykin and his comrades "came for him ..." ..does not speak Russian .. And this is in the Federation Council! (victim of the exam) .. Val, you have everyone like that, huh? .. Let me ask you, "Valka-glass", "Valka-sosulya" (St. they don't give "rattles" - the wrong people) - and what laws did you approve? ... not understanding the text in Russian? ... A question into the void ...
    1. +2
      9 May 2020 20: 38
      I’m greeting, fellow countryman, in Samara, too, everyone has hammered everything.
      1. +1
        10 May 2020 20: 50
        Hello fellow countryman! Yes, I know ...- a neighbor from the "May" returned from there. Although Azarov "flickers" (who wants to lose a chair?) - but he does not particularly "screw" ...
      2. 0
        17 May 2020 16: 02
        Have you read it, zem? The Investigative Committee found these "rear-wheel drive" ... Who decided to "joke" in the "Immortal Regiment" action by inserting photos of Nazi animals there ... One from Perm, the second from Volgograd, the third - a certain Shabanov - from Samara. The rest - as usual (svidomye horses, "eeee..goryayachie Estonian paaarni" ...). They work on them. So I think - at least one thread of the guys would also "joke", crushing his scrotum with his ankle in the pre-trial detention center ... (so that he would not produce such "jokers" and keep his bleating, guaranteed, "... this will not happen again .. . ”
  40. +1
    9 May 2020 18: 40
    What are we talking about? About education. Continue? (No guys, I’m not a snob - I don’t suffer. And not a pro ... Techie. I just wanted to present you the opinion of a pro ... Excuse me? Quote -

    ... How to motivate a child? With such a simple question, Pravda.Ru turned to the head of the All-Russian Education Foundation, co-chairman of the Education for All movement, Sergei Konstantinovich Komkov.

    “I have always been very wary of all these reform matters, although I myself used to be an innovative teacher,” Sergey Komkov began from afar, “but today we are dealing with an actually large-scale experiment. I am afraid that the results of this experiment will be very deplorable, because most of our schools, most of our teaching staff, and most importantly, most of our Russian families are not ready for this experiment.

    The government of the Russian Federation seized power losers
    We suspected this without an expert, but here the most interesting and, alas, bitter admission:

    - We are not ready to move on to distance learning at home. We have neither developed methods for this, nor proven practice. For this we have no understanding of how this should all happen. All this will end with the fact that we will at least go down two or three steps down. We were very cool down with the introduction of a single state exam. With this experiment in the so-called home distance learning, we are still very cool down.

    From the most reading country in the world, we have already become stupid plywood flying over Paris. Now we will prepare our younger generation in footmen for foreign owners.

    - With very rare exceptions, children will study independently. Basically, children at home are engaged in just anyone. Unless the parents have taken some control under some control, they mostly sit by their tablets, play computer toys or watch "horror stories" on TV. I'm afraid we will seriously undermine our entire education system. It is simply impossible to control the process: who, how is the learning process at home now. There is no feedback. It doesn't exist.

    Russia will produce fools

    - If in the conditions of Moscow, which is also very problematic, some feedback elements exist, then this is simply not the case in schools in other cities. At the regional level, this is not at all. In many regions where children were sent home, we will receive half a country of second-year students. You know, I'm not a supporter of conspiracy theory. But judging by what is happening now, I think a little overdone. We need to look at the experience of Sweden, where we did not go down this path. Schools continue to function normally. In case of transition to some other forms of training, they are carefully prepared. Look at Belarus. President Lukashenko bluntly said that no


    Read more at https://www.pravda.ru/society/1486004-education_russia/
  41. +2
    9 May 2020 18: 46
    What else to talk with them - I do not know. Fair. They probably live on another planet ... He doesn’t get fed up with the hungry ... - as they said in Russia. God be their judge ...
    1. +2
      9 May 2020 20: 43
      That's for sure, I work as an electrician (state employee), a salary of 4900 + allowances. Management said: you are a bolt, not allowances, and that no one else knows. CS stadium Lokomotiv.i Ministry of Sports on Sam.obl. also sent us
      1. +2
        10 May 2020 21: 36
        There is no ice on the VAZ either .. The repair service is working .. (the son says - we wash the masks in the toilet under the tap with soap ...) ... A few more services ... In April, the "guarantor" flew in ... Everyone was dispersed to their homes - out of harm's way ... What they decided is still unclear .. The plant is "French", when Seryozha Chemezov sold it to them ... Most likely - until the fall "4 days" ... Layoffs are possible (optimization - they say so) .. And this is primarily young people. What's in the realities of Togliatti is simple (another "response" came ... from the "funeral reform") ... Dreary, of course. Wait and see. We will live and find out. We will survive and draw conclusions ... Something like this ...
  42. +1
    10 May 2020 15: 45
    It is strange to discuss this power, its motives or actions. Since 1991, a criminal gang has ruled the country, completely sold to the West in exchange for the destruction of the Union, and then Russia. Which they do quite successfully.
    It’s time to understand this already, fellow citizens!
  43. -1
    10 May 2020 18: 17
    Quote: Dingo
    I spoke about this at the forum of the magazine "Behind the wheel"

    did not cooperate with sportloto?
    1. 0
      10 May 2020 20: 25
      No, I didn’t cooperate. Do you have any experience? Share if not hard.
    2. 0
      10 May 2020 21: 51
      As I understand it, are you a patient of "Kanatchikovaya Dacha"? Don't worry, patient, they will help you .. Our doctors have not bought diplomas ... and everything is calm in the "Bermuda Triangle" too - Vladimir Semenovich took care of everything ... Rest, get treatment ... All the best, get well!
  44. 0
    10 May 2020 18: 26
    Quote: Dingo
    It is painful to hear her voice after duty ... She is a medic.

    Well, all the doctors are fatigued, they die in their workplaces, this is because they haven’t worked a damn thing before, now, of course, it’s hard for them to start working. and then they started to fall out of windows, is it also from a virus? as before they pretended to work, and now it is also very interesting to read - such a doctor got infected, a shakoito doctor got infected - what kind of specialists are they, even if they can't protect themselves? qualifications below the plinth, purchased diplomas do not save. and these "specialists" are trying to treat us, the stump is clear, they will not cure, they could only cure a cold and sore throat, from diseases that themselves pass before. funny to read about your sister, funny!
    1. 0
      10 May 2020 20: 28
      And who is against? Laugh ... Laugh, really, it’s not a sin ... Just try not to get sick, huh?
      1. -1
        10 May 2020 21: 46
        I laugh and I don’t go to doctors for a long time, I have the Internet, and I’m better than any doctor in it that the doctor is looking for symptoms on the Internet, that I will find them myself, on the same Internet. and don’t have to vote here about doctors falling from our feet and breasts covering us from the virus. Such doctors have long been gone, and the current ones don’t treat, but provide services for money
    2. 0
      10 May 2020 20: 35
      ... but about "purchased diplomas" ... From now on, more ...
  45. -1
    10 May 2020 21: 37
    Quote: Dingo
    ... but about "purchased diplomas" ... From now on, more

    and you don’t know how diplomas are being bought now, not in transitions, in institutes? it turns out a little more expensive, but the diploma is like a real one, or rather, a real diploma, there is no knowledge and skills. Doctors in this are no different from everyone else, if they cannot even protect themselves from the virus, what knowledge can we talk about? And how will they, for example, treat me?
  46. 0
    10 May 2020 21: 52
    Quote: Dingo
    No, I didn’t cooperate. Do you have any experience? Share if not hard.

    it’s never connected with sportloto, but how is the magazine behind the wheel connected with air defense - is that where you served in sergeants? that the conscript could know such a secret, that he could not even communicate with a regular journal. and the magazine forum behind the wheel is what?
    1. 0
      10 May 2020 22: 29
      Hmm ... a mess in my head. For "especially gifted" .. In order - though sickening. Before conscription, at 77, after distribution, I had to work in the so-called. "p-I" .. (you are not talking about anything, do not strain ..) I lived in Mytishchi, in a hostel. I went to work to Preobrazhenka, to NIIDAR .. Yes, I saw these passages with blue crusts. I don’t know the topic - it’s just not interesting. It was .. Then the call, Eletskaya study, Cherepovets. From there - for half a year, to Sary-Shagan (Dal-78), a trace in the spring - again there, to Balkhash (Soyuz-79) .... Boy, did your mother drop you in childhood? You are either a stupid person down and out - or just a troll ... Have you done your homework? This is what the remote control does with shkolota ...
  47. -1
    10 May 2020 22: 07
    Quote: Not_invented
    aerosol filter that retains particles as small as viruses mechanically

    you wouldn’t be able to breathe through such a filter, the pores would be very small
  48. -1
    11 May 2020 18: 40
    Quote: Dingo
    He lived in Mytishchi, in a hostel

    Well, and how is this connected with the magazine behind the wheel? I also lived in a hostel at that time, not in mytischi,
    true, but at the wheel I read without any restrictions
    Quote: Dingo
    Boy, didn’t your mother drop you in childhood?

    not a kid, I didn’t drop it. then the question is, who did you work in the drawer if you don’t know the topic, and you couldn’t read the magazine while driving? obviously something at the level of the supply department? and it’s still interesting how you, a person, possibly with a higher education,
    Quote: Dingo
    Before the call, at 77, after distribution
    ,
    Managed to serve in the Soviet army on an urgent basis for two years? to the navel open sergeant?
  49. -1
    11 May 2020 18: 55
    Quote: Dingo
    As I understand it, are you a patient of "Kanatchikovaya Dacha"

    What, you so easily identify your fellow associates? Well, here you were wrong, not one of those I
    Quote: Dingo
    Our doctors have not bought diplomas
    - this is good, so they will put you in the right ward, and they will inject with the right haloperidol. so get well sick sick. I don’t have to wish the same - I’m not sick. yes, yes, "with such health, and free"
  50. 0
    11 May 2020 18: 58
    Quote: Dingo
    The repair service is working .. (son says - we wash masks in the toilet under the tap with soap and water ..

    hope not in the toilet? and what, at home, hot water is forbidden? well animals
  51. -1
    12 May 2020 00: 49
    Yes, you are not an enemy of the USA, the gas station is shabby laughing And I remembered trampolines from Rogozin here wassat
  52. 0
    12 May 2020 20: 13
    DON'T FEED THE TROLL
    Who are trolls and how to identify them
    You've probably met them many times before. These are people who come to the forum in order to write a controversial definition, deliberate stupidity, be rude, or simply curse at you or one of the forum members. Typically, trolls use clearly provocative phrases (“beat the Jews,” “I hate @!#$s,” “Japanese women are crap,” etc.) in order to start a scandal. The term “troll” comes from the English to trawl, “to catch with a net” - trolls comb online forums in search of attention (trawl for the attention).
    The troll is completely indifferent to what the conversation is actually about. He has nothing substantive to say, or simply report anything interesting. He is only interested in attention to his person - and he will do anything to attract attention to himself. If you answer the troll, he will completely ignore the content of your letter and write either another stupidity in response or simply be rude. If you do not answer him, he will be rude even more intensely, trying to provoke you into rudeness or a thoughtless statement. A classic troll trick is to claim that you are scared of him or that you have nothing to answer if you decide to stop talking to him. Sometimes a troll, offended by the lack of attention, begins to systematically litter the forum with garbage (“flooding”).
    Trolls often come into active discussions in order to turn them into a massive explanation to them, the trolls, that they are wrong and, thereby, completely destroy the meaning of the discussion and turn it into an ugly scandal.
    Many forum participants simply prefer not to notice trolls, considering them a necessary evil. Unfortunately, negative emotions from contemplating troll writings tend to spill over into discussions with reasonable people.
    Why do they need this?
    Trolls seek attention in such a perverted form simply because they have extremely low self-esteem and have no other ways to attract attention to themselves (among the trolls there are almost never smart or interesting people - they simply have nothing to say). As a rule, in real life, trolls are sociopathic and often have problems in their personal lives. The very fact that someone noticed the troll and responded to him increases the troll’s self-esteem. The troll's next desire is to pull the interlocutor down to his level (and, if possible, humiliate him with a stream of rudeness and innuendo).
    Due to inadequate socialization, trolls do not perceive their interlocutors as people; for them, you are just an abstract picture on the screen. Therefore, they do not consider it necessary to be polite, show respect to their interlocutors, or bother to understand what they are trying to explain. A typical troll is completely impervious to criticism of himself, to reason, to logic, or to appeals to morality. Therefore, it is impossible to convince or re-educate a troll.
    What NOT to do if you come across a troll
    Do not engage in any discussions with the troll. If you tried to explain something to him, he won, because you spent effort, time and attention on him, which he will pointedly ignore. If you tried to insult him, he won, because he pulled you down to his level of communication. If you started to answer him, but then stopped talking, he won, because he decided that he managed to offend you or that you have nothing to answer (and he will then brag that he “leaked” you).
    The most useful thing you can write is to remind other participants in the discussion that there is no need to engage in punctuation with the troll (increasingly on online forums this is formulated as “DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!”).
    A big mistake would be to demonstratively complain about the troll to the forum admins, who will most likely “ban” him. As a result, the troll will not only receive more attention than his worthless person will ever deserve, but also a crowd of “free speech” defenders will form around him - many of whom are lazy to figure out who is right and who is wrong. As a result, you will receive nothing but a portion of dirt addressed to you.
    Is it possible to get rid of trolls?
    Trolls, like cockroaches, cannot be completely washed away. Get rid of one, in its place will always come a new one; there are a lot of idiots and sociopaths. But, like cockroaches, trolls can be brave.
    The worst thing for a troll is when no one pays attention to him. The troll will simply get bored and go off to new “pastures”. But before that, he will go out of his way to still attract attention to himself - personal insults, flooding, etc., etc. will be used.
    Therefore, the only sure way to deal with a troll is to “ban” without getting into a fight. To do this, forum administrators need to monitor such things and take care of the cleanliness of their forum. Unfortunately, this is a very rare occurrence... What a pity! Regularly deleting troll posts from the forum is a sign of good manners and respect for your readers (as well as their time - many of us simply do not have time to read streams of nonsense from trolls).
    Sure, back-and-forth with trolls can be entertaining and quite lively, but remember the old saying: "If you're arguing with an idiot, think about how he might be doing the same thing!"
    There is an opinion that banning a troll is an admission that he has won. Trolls brag to each other about being banned, presenting this as their “victory” because they “didn’t have anything to answer.” In fact, this is their game - they do this in order not to be banned by everyone except those as wretched as themselves. Playing along with them in this is not only stupid, but also antisocial. The more actively the community bans trolls, the sooner they will remain isolated and leave. Often, serious, creative people stop reading those forums that allow trolls to join them, where they multiply at a terrible speed... And from this, all forum users who really came for useful information lose.
    Dear admins! When adding another troll to the list of banned people, you need to remember that it was not he who “defeated” you, but you who decided that his worthless person does not deserve a minute of your time and the time of your forum members to read his nonsense and write a response. Banning him is faster and easier. He has nothing to be proud of. If you encounter a troll in someone else's forum, pay attention to the forum owner and ask him to ban the troll, as a matter of social hygiene.
    Unfortunately, forums often have simplified registration schemes (like this one) - and this makes it possible for trolls and other hooligans to create hundreds of virtual ones. There is no good way to deal with this yet, but I hope that sooner or later the problem will become so serious that the forum administration will change the registration procedure in order to make it more difficult for the same person to create multiple registrations...
  53. 0
    12 May 2020 20: 20
    Just don't press the "reply" button - pass by. This riffraff doesn't deserve your attention. Best regards - Dingo (Victor).

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