Ahval: Russian S-400s only worsen Turkey's security situation


Middle East observer Ilhan Tanir published material on the acquisition of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems by Turkey from Russia. Material published by Ahval News.


Tanir reminds readers that April 2020 ended, before the end of which Ankara intended to put Russian air defense systems on combat duty as part of its air defense units. But, as the author writes, "this did not happen." Moreover, he suggests not directly linking the postponement of the deadlines with the epidemic, although the Turkish Ministry of Defense stated exactly this earlier.

The message that Ilkhan Tanir is trying to put into his material is noteworthy. Here is a quote:

Purchases of Russian S-400s not only coincided with a deterioration in the standard of living of Turkish citizens, but also worsened the security situation in the country. It was they who made it impossible for Turkey to receive US support during the operation in Idlib. And then this led to the deaths of dozens of Turkish soldiers.

Further, the Middle East author, who is clearly concerned about the military-technical contacts of Moscow and Ankara, decides to strengthen the information effect by adding:

Turkey was also expelled from the F-35 production consortium. And she spent a lot of money, resources. As a result, she lost about 10 billion dollars. And this is due to the acquisition and partial deployment of Russian-made systems.

Tanir does not stop there and announces that even the Turkish lira sank allegedly because of deteriorating relations with the United States in connection with all the same Russian S-400s.

This material itself suggests that the deal concluded between Russia and Turkey will continue to be attacked by those who are tasked with escalating the situation and linking any negative in Turkish life with the acquisition of Russian anti-aircraft missile systems.
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  1. askort154 7 May 2020 18: 41 New
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    Bravo S-400! In addition to its direct responsibilities MANPADS, well introduced into international politics. good
    1. To be or not to be 7 May 2020 18: 55 New
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      S-400 in Turkey -Agent of Russian influence in NATO? Bravo .. although Turkey itself got into the worst of it and in Syria and Libya and a friend from across the ocean put a huge pig with a coup against President Erdogan
      1. tol100v 7 May 2020 19: 17 New
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        Quote: To be or not to be
        and a friend from across the ocean planted a huge pig with a coup against President Erdogan

        This is not a "friend" started a coup, but the SGA!
    2. figwam 7 May 2020 19: 00 New
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      Quote: askort154
      Bravo S-400! In addition to its direct responsibilities as MANPADS,

      S-400 is slightly larger than MANPADS.
      1. hydrox 8 May 2020 06: 44 New
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        It’s clear that the article is custom-made, not Russophobian, but anti-Sultan’s: but all the same, for all these stupid attacks, the author fully deserves the status of an “undesirable person” with the nickname “empty-handed”, since no more than yesterday the ordinary negotiations of responsible persons about the delivery took place Turkey's next batch of air defense systems.
    3. Avior 7 May 2020 19: 15 New
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      direct responsibilities MANPADS

      what
      difficult to carry, probably smile
      1. Revival 8 May 2020 02: 06 New
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        Oh, not easy!))
        1. hydrox 8 May 2020 06: 47 New
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          Do not scoff!
          Before moving, they unscrew containers from the tractor - it’s easier to drag! laughing
          1. Revival 8 May 2020 13: 57 New
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            The four drag the radars, and unscrew the pipe and shoot from the shoulder))
    4. bober777 7 May 2020 19: 33 New
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      MANPADS? Duty? - sho then missed in this life
    5. Prisoner 7 May 2020 20: 23 New
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      I agree with the "bravo", but the "P" must be removed. Transfer it to the hump does not work. winked
      1. askort154 8 May 2020 06: 37 New
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        The captive ..... I agree with the "bravo", but the "P" must be removed. Transfer it to the hump does not work.

        It's just that my sarcasm is not understood by everyone. I wrote, fulfills not only my direct duties, but also political ones. Therefore, I put the letter "P".
        Political anti-aircraft missile system. (Which many took for the "portable" crying ) All with the coming! hi
        1. Prisoner 8 May 2020 08: 33 New
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          winked Now I understand.
        2. hydrox 9 May 2020 07: 03 New
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          Quote: askort154
          Political anti-aircraft missile system

          For politicoanti-greasy plus!
          Happy Holidays!
    6. My doctor 7 May 2020 20: 29 New
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      Quote: askort154
      In addition to its direct responsibilities MANPADS

      And what is MANPADS?
      1. Peter is not the first 7 May 2020 20: 52 New
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        The Vietnamese dragged on their hump S-75. Why, now, do not work for the Turks, not everywhere they have "all inclusive".
      2. avg
        avg 7 May 2020 22: 08 New
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        Quote: MyVrach
        And what is MANPADS?

        This is the S-400 in Turkish. Well, it’s very hard to wear the owner of rugais. crying
        1. hydrox 8 May 2020 06: 55 New
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          You can carry it around, remove the guarantee current, the maintenance will be smoothed out, not paired
      3. Cypa 9 May 2020 09: 12 New
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        missile tube with missile on airplanes / helicopters
  2. Dmitry from Voronezh 7 May 2020 18: 41 New
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    Nothing unusual. Just competition in the arms market. People are paid to promote American systems, so they work out their bread.
    1. knn54 7 May 2020 19: 31 New
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      But can you hear something else from a member of the sect of Gulen, albeit the former.
      1. hydrox 8 May 2020 06: 56 New
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        Hehe ...
        There are no former political scientists-magazines!
    2. Nyrobsky 7 May 2020 20: 29 New
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      Quote: Dmitry from Voronezh
      Nothing unusual. Just competition in the arms market. People are paid to promote American systems, so they work out their bread.

      Along the way, Edik had a reason to think and instruct some services to communicate more closely with this "analyte" through jamming Faberge doors. This pretzel clearly fulfills the order of mattresses and from the same clip of paid people, like those who, in the interests of the United States, were preparing a coup in Turkey against Erdogan.
  3. Chingachguk 7 May 2020 18: 44 New
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    Dear Turks. Refuse Russian C400 complexes, refuse Russian gas as well, use LNG shale from the USA and your life will get better right away !!!! And we invite you to rest in the Crimea!
    1. My doctor 7 May 2020 20: 30 New
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      Quote: Chingachguk
      Refuse the Russian C400 complexes, refuse also the Russian gas,

      Forgot about nuclear power plants?
    2. Oquzyurd 7 May 2020 20: 33 New
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      A month ago, the Turks adopted the Hisar-A short-range air defense system. It has been reported that today they have already launched a serial air-defense intake of medium-range Hisar-O (initially intended to be launched in the 2021 series) .A series of long-range air defense Hisar-U will begin in 2021. (at the beginning they planned an intake by 2023). That is, they bought the S-400 to close the temporary gap before the release of its long-range air defense. By the way, Chingachuk-Türkic-speaking so you know))
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      2. Chingachguk 8 May 2020 07: 30 New
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        As far as I heard, the C 400 has not even been deployed yet in Turkey ....
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        1. Oquzyurd 8 May 2020 13: 21 New
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          "And it seemed to me that they live somewhere not far away" Apparently they have not lost, it still seems, and pass off as truth hi
    3. Sergey Sfiedu 7 May 2020 21: 32 New
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      Im American gas unnecessarily. They have Iranian and Azerbaijani gas close by. Yes, and Qatar’s ally will help, if that .. The Sultan bargained for an excellent discount on Russian gas, now he can simply resell it to Europe and put his margin in his pocket.
    4. Xnumx vis 7 May 2020 22: 19 New
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      Quote: Chingachguk
      And we invite you to rest in the Crimea!

      Plus set you. But !!!!! .. In Crimea, the Turks are not needed ... Do not invite them to us in the Crimea ... There are enough of their "Turks".
      1. hydrox 8 May 2020 07: 02 New
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        Well, take it easy!
        The Türks are such a beast: you are at the door, and he’s climbing the window without Vaseline! Talking with him only in Turkish!
        1. Xnumx vis 8 May 2020 08: 19 New
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          Quote: hydrox
          The Türks are such a beast: you are at the door, and he’s climbing the window without Vaseline! Talking with him only in Turkish!

          Turki yes! We can all slightly Türks ... But there are no Turks in the Crimea for us, don’t ... ...! Turkish time ended in Crimea under Catherine the Great.
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  4. Terenin 7 May 2020 18: 50 New
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    Ilkhan Tanir, did you really calculate everything there, "accountant"? winked
    From a quarrel with Russia, in just seven months, Turkey’s tourism and agricultural sectors have suffered more than $ 11 billion in damage.
    There is also "greed fraer ruined." This is me about an attempted military coup in Turkey, which was organized with the consent and approval of the United States, which forced Erdogan to come closer to Russia and China. yes
    1. cniza 7 May 2020 18: 55 New
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      Apparently quickly forgotten, oh, these oriental intricacies ... hi
      1. Terenin 7 May 2020 19: 05 New
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        Quote: cniza
        Apparently quickly forgotten, oh, these oriental intricacies ... hi

        hi
        Yes, the Turks have a strange memory. winked They very well remember whose Crimea, but completely forgot whose Constantinople.
        1. cniza 7 May 2020 19: 08 New
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          Yeah, and whose straits, otherwise you can raise old papers ...
    2. Husit 7 May 2020 19: 44 New
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      Quote: Terenin
      From a quarrel with Russia, in just seven months, Turkey’s tourism and agricultural sectors have suffered more than $ 11 billion in damage.
      There is also "greed fraer ruined." I’m talking about an attempted military coup in Turkey, which was organized with the consent and approval of the United States, which forced Erdogan to come closer to Russia and China.

      Erdogan imagines himself a sultan again .. And this will destroy him!
      It’s better to be friends with Russia, but alas .. Gulen Erdogan has forgotten how he was saved and who saved him ..
      Quote: cniza
      Apparently quickly forgotten, oh, these oriental intricacies ...

      As if on these intricacies of Erdogan did not strangle their own ..
  5. cniza 7 May 2020 18: 53 New
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    Ahval: Russian S-400s only worsen Turkey's security situation


    Is this what the Turks are trying to get us apart?
    1. rocket757 7 May 2020 19: 02 New
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      Hi soldier
      it is for domestic use! they need to explain to voters that all sorts of different people are to blame, and not the nonsense of their own leaders / candidates!
      Nothing new.
      1. cniza 7 May 2020 19: 05 New
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        The East is not a simple matter, there you can doze off and slack ... hi
        1. rocket757 7 May 2020 19: 19 New
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          And to blame anyone, just do not recognize for yourself, the phenomenon is international.
          1. cniza 7 May 2020 20: 29 New
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            This is so, but there with a special, as it were figuratively said, o - color.
            1. rocket757 7 May 2020 22: 40 New
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              East matter .... their cockroaches in their heads, in short.
        2. abrakadabre 8 May 2020 10: 38 New
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          The East is not a simple matter, there you can doze off and slack ...
          Why is it so complicated? Everything is extremely simple. Eastern mentality respects only power. And not a comparable force or somewhat superior, but absolutely overwhelming. Which can and does not hesitate to spread to dust not even for misconduct, but for the slightest suspicion of intent about misconduct.
          All of the above works both at the household and at the political level. What is national, what is international.
    2. hydrox 8 May 2020 07: 04 New
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      The sultan has his own opposition, with his goals ...
  6. rocket757 7 May 2020 19: 00 New
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    There can be nothing new in these "revelations" .... such is all to blame for, but not that they brazenly climbed into another country and violate, violate ....
    You always have to pay for your Wishlist !!!
  7. orionvitt 7 May 2020 19: 02 New
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    If Turkey hopes for a confrontation with Russia, then in this case it will be like with Ukraine. Namely, the famous words about "loss of sovereignty." Turkey is not a country that can swing conditions. All their "power" in front of Russia, only in the straits.
  8. faterdom 7 May 2020 19: 06 New
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    And from it there can be earthquakes in the mountainous regions of Turkey, and attempts at a coup against Erdogan! One harm is continuous!
  9. Vasyan1971 7 May 2020 19: 14 New
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    And then this led to the deaths of dozens of Turkish soldiers.

    They were led to death by the decision to send troops to Idlib. Continuous pulling an owl on a globe. Backdating. 100% jeans. '
  10. venik 7 May 2020 19: 18 New
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    "...Tanir does not stop there and announces that even the Turkish lira sank allegedly because of deteriorating relations with the United States in connection with all the same Russian S-400s. .... "
    ======
    Is it surprising that he still did not connect the purchase of S-400 with Turkey and the “coronavirus” pandemic? A flaw, however! laughing
  11. yfast 7 May 2020 19: 20 New
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    Another S-400, probably the virus dragged?
  12. demo 7 May 2020 19: 24 New
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    This material itself suggests that the deal concluded between Russia and Turkey will continue to be attacked by those who are tasked with escalating the situation and linking any negative in Turkish life with the acquisition of Russian anti-aircraft missile systems.
    The acquisition by a NATO member of advanced weapons created and directed primarily against that NATO itself is surrealism.
    The behavior of the head of state - a member of NATO - voluntarism.
    An attempt to fit the acquired system into the air defense system of a NATO member country is idiocy.
    Then the question arises - why was this complex acquired?
  13. rotkiv04 7 May 2020 19: 34 New
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    And how much more will Turkey lose from non-potential tourists from Russia
  14. Zeev Zeev 7 May 2020 19: 40 New
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    I can not disagree with the author in almost everything. Erdogan’s attempt to prove himself an independent player, not tied to any of the centers of power, in the international arena, who does what he wants without paying attention to the interests of serious players, ultimately led to the expected problems in foreign policy. Well, Turkey does not have sufficient strategic political and economic weight to fulfill the wishes of the new sultan. The only thing is that the depreciation of the Turkish lira is not connected with these games, the economic decline has slightly different reasons.
    1. Walrus fang 7 May 2020 20: 04 New
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      Quote: Zeev Zeev
      The only thing is that the depreciation of the Turkish lira is not connected with these games, the economic decline has slightly different reasons.

      Well in Israel, a lot of things are known .. Maybe enlighten us here?
      1. Zeev Zeev 7 May 2020 20: 16 New
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        I can’t enlighten, but I'll throw a couple of facts for thought. Turkish attacks on the Kurds in northern Syria and Iraq and the cessation of the supply of cheap oil from the Kurdish regions as a result. The decrease in sea traffic through the Bosphorus due to the development of intra-European infrastructure and the decrease in traffic from the Sea of ​​Azov due to the actual closure of the Kerch Strait (that is, ships sail, but because of queues near the bridge it is more profitable for shipowners to find other routes) are two. The decline in agricultural exports due to the loss of sales markets in Russia and the EU is three. Well, plus the war in Syria, which eats money as if in itself.
        1. Walrus fang 7 May 2020 20: 26 New
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          Quote: Zeev Zeev
          and a decrease in traffic from the Sea of ​​Azov due to the actual closure of the Kerch Strait (that is, ships go, but because of queues near the bridge it is more profitable for shipowners to find other routes) - two.


          Everything is clear .. laughing wink
          1. Zeev Zeev 7 May 2020 21: 05 New
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            You can look at the number of ships awaiting entry into the Sea of ​​Azov. And getting out of it
            1. Walrus fang 7 May 2020 21: 10 New
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              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              You can look at the number of ships awaiting entry into the Sea of ​​Azov. And getting out of it

              Well, right, this is not earlier, when "walk the field" .. The bridge is a strategic object! And then the provocations were already more than once .. And what are you in Israel so for the Kerch bridge suddenly prohibit .. What is your benefit? wassat
              1. Zeev Zeev 7 May 2020 21: 21 New
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                I don’t worry about the bridge in the Kerch Strait or the sea traffic from Taganrog or Berdyansk. I explain the decline in income of Turkey.
                1. Oquzyurd 7 May 2020 21: 52 New
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                  “I explain the decline in Turkey’s income.” Funny.
            2. Oquzyurd 7 May 2020 21: 50 New
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              On average, 41-43 thousand ships a year go through the Bosphorus. I don’t think that Azov will change these parameters much. They don’t charge a fee for a montage trip. Maintenance fees, escorts, that is, pennies that do not affect the total a picture.
        2. Oquzyurd 7 May 2020 21: 46 New
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          Turkey doesn’t buy gas and oil, it buys a lot and a lot. Energy carriers fell in price by 2 times or more, that is, they save a lot on that. Moreover, the country of production and mainly buyers of the EU and the USA, and they buy even more, than before. The Turks increased their deliveries of agricultural products to Africa, compensating for losses in other markets. Countries that produce agricultural and industrial products are quicker adapting to new realities than those selling oil and gas.
          1. Zeev Zeev 7 May 2020 22: 05 New
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            Deliveries to Africa are more expensive in terms of logistics and cheaper in terms of prices. Egyptians will not pay as much as Austrians or Russians.
            1. Oquzyurd 7 May 2020 22: 11 New
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              The main profit, there would be no benefit, would not be delivered. But they are being supplied at an increasing pace. Even recently, the Libyans, Saraj announced that we will buy all the food from the Turks.
          2. Aaron Zawi 7 May 2020 23: 15 New
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            Quote: Oquzyurd
            Turkey doesn’t buy gas and oil, it buys a lot and a lot. Energy carriers fell in price by 2 times or more, that is, they save a lot on that. Moreover, the country of production and mainly buyers of the EU and the USA, and they buy even more, than before. The Turks increased their deliveries of agricultural products to Africa, compensating for losses in other markets. Countries that produce agricultural and industrial products are quicker adapting to new realities than those selling oil and gas.

            Well, there are problems so far.

            At Thursday's auction, the lira updated its low against the dollar, dropping to 7,2520. On the OTC market in London, the rate jumped to 7,49 lira per dollar in the morning. Since the beginning of May, the Turkish currency has depreciated by 3,5%, from the beginning of the year by 22%, becoming one of the worst among emerging markets.
            The Turkish Central Bank is trying to support the foreign exchange market, however, the reserves of dollar “gunpowder” are close to zeroing. With foreign exchange reserves of $ 53 billion, Turkey's net gold reserves (minus central bank liabilities) are only $ 25 billion. Since the beginning of the year, they have fallen by $ 15 billion, or 40%.
            Living with a chronic deficit in the balance of payments and trade balance and significant external debt, which will make payments of $ 170 billion this year, Turkey faced the collapse of the tourism industry, due to which its economy received the lion's share of foreign currency earnings.

  15. eklmn 7 May 2020 19: 44 New
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    “... associate any negative in the life of Turkey with the acquisition of Russian anti-aircraft missile systems”, and any negative in the life of Russia with the money received from the sale of the money spent on hell ...
  16. pexotinec 7 May 2020 20: 08 New
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    Does S-400 exchange rates already? I am in shock.
  17. Prisoner 7 May 2020 20: 16 New
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    laughing Should our head support the security of Turkey? Cool air defense system, better not to protect. Well, if some Turks have diapers wet, this is their problem.
  18. aleksr2005 7 May 2020 20: 22 New
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    With 400 were bought by Turkey for our downed pilot and the deceased ambassador.
  19. iouris 7 May 2020 20: 35 New
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    But Erdogan then bought, and he is an expert. He was nearly killed.
  20. Reserve buildbat 7 May 2020 20: 55 New
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    "Purchases of Russian S-400s not only coincided with a deterioration in the standard of living of Turkish citizens, but also worsened the security situation in the country. They made it impossible for Turkey to receive US support during the operation in Idlib. And then this led to the deaths of dozens Turkish soldiers. "
    Strange ... About the same screams in Russia are heard from representatives of "non-living" liberalists and nostalgic for the "holy nineties." In short, from the real enemies of the people.
  21. Astra wild 7 May 2020 21: 00 New
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    Did the coronovirus also cause S-400?
    "The Turkish lira sank allegedly due to the deterioration of relations with the United States"
  22. vkd.dvk 7 May 2020 21: 34 New
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    And who called the Turks to Syria? We wouldn’t have climbed, sorting out our problems at home, and it would not have been necessary to beg penguins. And, not once. And get a kick in the face in response.
  23. vkd.dvk 7 May 2020 21: 44 New
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    Quote: Knights Templar
    I can’t say about the security of Turkey, but Syria was covered with the help of S-300 systems somehow not very safe.

    You need to carefully read everything on the internet, analyze and think ....
    If we talk about our inaction in Syria, then we were not obligated to get involved in all the showdowns of the Syrians with their neighbors. Our goal is ISIS.
    If we talk about the inaction of the Syrians themselves, then look very carefully. why and from what. They do not respond to Israeli raids on their territory. Why? Because they’re not attacking the Syrian troops, but the pro-Iraqi. Which for a long time began to interfere, being there. They helped in the fight against ISIS, thanks, go home. Different Hesboll there, and others. There is such a proverb that, they say, "dear guests, are you not tired of the owners?" Get involved in a war with Israel? And who needs it? Get involved in a war with Iraq, chasing away its "volunteers" back home? Like, too, to anything ..... So why not do it with the hands of Israel?
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    What is all this worried about the security of a member of Turkey’s NATO? I wonder who is going to attack the country from the air? Greece, Cyprus or the Kurds?
    Previously, as a member of NATO, only the USSR. And now, against whom is the S-400?
    All these are the ambitions of military circles and their leader Erdogan.
    For Russia, the main thing is that rich Pinocchio paid a lot of money. Flag in their hands. This is the problem of the Turkish taxpayer.
  25. forpost 7 May 2020 22: 00 New
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    That case, when the dancer's eggs get in the way.
  26. naburkin 7 May 2020 22: 01 New
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    Quote: figvam
    Quote: askort154
    Bravo S-400! In addition to its direct responsibilities as MANPADS,

    S-400 is slightly larger than MANPADS.

    Well, plus or minus a couple of tons, which is trifling)))
  27. Rusticolus 7 May 2020 23: 34 New
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    Hey, why did you forget about crop failure 2020? Everyone knows, everyone has bitten the mice! And as you know, S-400 directly affects the birth of kittens in cats. laughing
  28. dsdelta 8 May 2020 02: 39 New
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    Strange paid nagging. The state of Turkey ordered the S-400, the state of the Russian Federation delivered it. The rest does not concern us at all.
  29. Good forester 8 May 2020 07: 36 New
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    Erdoогan wasn’t pulling his tongue at the expense of S-400. They didn’t drag him to sign a contract on the rope. Russia saved him from death in the event of a coup d'etat not being successful. Then Russia was good, and America was bad. Now on the back. The sultan has a short memory.
  30. Ronald Reagan 8 May 2020 12: 22 New
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    He laughed heartily!
    ......
    Not necessary?
    - Give it back!
    .. For example, Iran.
    He, too, is upset, but he will. It’s necessary to help out the Turks, whom the Persians are very sorry for. From this pity, Iran is even ready to suffer from the presence of the c400 at home. And put up with total and year-round condemnation of this from the Jews ...
    Oh how ...
    So what would be the Turks why get excited ...
  31. ROSS_51 8 May 2020 12: 28 New
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    I don’t understand what kind of complex is in the photo? Ball, or what?
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    While Erdogan is in his right mind, he will remember the failed US attempt to kill him as a result of the state. the coup and the fact that he survived thanks to Russia.
    Until then, the Russian S-400 Triumph will protect the people of Turkey from duplicitous arrogant Saxons and naturally will be a bone in the throat of Washington, and it will be sung along ...