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What happens to us: in Eastern Europe, not monuments are dismantled, but our sense of pride

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What happens to us: in Eastern Europe, not monuments are dismantled, but our sense of pride

Demolition of monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators, acts of vandalism in relation to monuments and military graves are already becoming something everyday for the countries of Eastern Europe. Baltic States, Poland, Bulgaria, Ukraine, now the Czech Republic. And in any of these cases, the set of arguments is small: if the act of vandalism, then “the police understand” (while the investigated cases are less than 1 percent), if the demolition of the monument was initiated by the authorities, then “this is our internal decision, it’s not your business, do not intervene in our internal affairs. "


And judging by how events are developing, the case is really “not ours”. Russia does not allow itself an adequate response to impudent acts. Even the standard tool of modern punishment in the form of sanctions is “not ours”. Our everything for today is a note of protest, a speech on an unknown Facebook page. Well, well ... After all, if you really take action, then the partners can be offended. Kolarzh and Novotny, all right, will threaten with a finger. And some European MP will raise the issue already in the European Parliament! ..

The question arises: what is happening to us? Well, the latitude of the soul can not be called. Some kind of toothlessness, spinelessness, apathy. Indeed, in Eastern Europe, not so much statues and plaques are dismantled, they dismantle our sense of pride, self-esteem. If you pay for this with an exclusively non-binding note of protest, then there is an opinion that all this will continue further - what is called a war to the last monument.

Of course, there are many people who say that, they say, it’s not an ordinary people doing such vile things, they say, all the local authorities there. Ordinary people, they say, actually value us, love, respect us. But somewhere very deep in the soul. So, he doesn’t give a damn about dismantling the monuments, because he’s busy with his own affairs.

But what about Russia from this? Marshal Konev is not on the pedestal. And this means that new generations of Czechs will no longer have a question, so who is this man in a military overcoat and with a bouquet of lilacs in his hands, who has a monument in their hometown. No memory no stories, there’s no understanding of what these people would have lived today if not for this man with a bouquet of lilacs ... Minus Konev, minus Chernyakhovsky, minus Bronze soldier, minus, minus, minus ...

Perhaps the reason is that while in Eastern Europe they erected monuments to the soldiers-liberators, in Western Europe they erected a dollar on a pedestal, a happy life on credit. This is where we allow ourselves to "write off debts" on friendship "from the shoulder of the master." The West asks for every cent, for every crumb issued on credit. Try not to pay! And it is precisely this pedestal with the imposed worship of the "American Dream" today that leads to the fact that our values ​​are overthrown from pedestals. And if we don’t answer this, how should we answer, then in reality our values, at least with regard to the memory of our ancestors, have remained unchanged? Or are we simply afraid to admit even to ourselves that this is no longer the case? ..
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  1. pereselenec
    pereselenec 7 May 2020 11: 51 New
    -22
    Since Europeans spat in our memory of the Great War, I think we need to preserve the monuments in our homeland. We can all get together and take the initiative in creating, under the state patronage of the Great War Heritage Conservation Fund (FSNVV). I propose to write a letter to Putin so that a small part (5-10 percent each) of the evacuation of Soviet monuments to the Russian Federation is removed from our salaries. I agree, there’s a crisis in the yard, but the memory of the grandfathers who fought is more important than the Phoenician signs. They can be installed in a separate reserve, and those who donate money to them can be given free entry there for them and their families.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 7 May 2020 12: 02 New
      16
      Evacuate the monuments to their homeland? I think that is correct. But! For the money of those in power. It was they who launched the case on the brakes.
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 7 May 2020 12: 19 New
        -12
        Quote: 210ox
        Evacuate the monuments to their homeland? I think that is correct. But! For the money of those in power. It was they who launched the case on the brakes.

        Also, the position. "It's not me. I'm not ready to pay for this." request . That is all patriotism! It’s all of them ... to blame here and in everything. And I am white and fluffy, I ride in Skoda of various calibers, I drink Czech beer, I eat on Czech glass dishes, I rest in Prague. Empty chatter, continuous pharisaism .... But if they were united, we would not need government measures. A boycott of goods from the Czech Republic and Poland by a consumer would have long brought them to their senses, or they would have disappeared from the shelves of our stores.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 7 May 2020 12: 55 New
          20
          Pharisee is you. I don’t go abroad, the car is cheaper than Skoda, and I don’t drink beer for a long time. Even Czech. Why should I dress someone for shoals (even crimes)? One villain who has betrayed the entire socialist community feels quite well on a personal pension at your expense with us. And his descendants rule the ball. I add, I do not feel community with our rulers. Why should I be with them?
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 7 May 2020 13: 06 New
            -14
            Quote: 210ox
            I don’t go abroad, the car is cheaper than Skoda, and I don’t drink beer for a long time. Even Czech

            Do not burn the pillow with a nimbus ...
      2. Egorovich
        Egorovich 7 May 2020 12: 25 New
        13
        There must be an answer to every Western provocation. I really liked the proposal of the Duma deputy Sherin. He proposed the adoption of a law and ranked as veterans of military operations of servicemen who took part in the events of Prague in 1968. The fascist henchmen of the Czechs will definitely comb their hair like cat litter.
        1. victor50
          victor50 7 May 2020 13: 47 New
          0
          Quote: Egorovich
          in the events of Prague in 1968. The fascist henchmen of the Czechs will definitely comb their hair like cat litter.

          Can you justify - why? I can not understand the logic of this conclusion.
        2. unaha
          unaha 7 May 2020 15: 16 New
          0
          Would you decide to begin with - were the Czechs "liberated" from fascism or are they "Fascist henchmen"?
          And then, if in the first case it is appropriate to expect gratitude (well, at least theoretically), then in the second what is it all about?
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 9 May 2020 20: 51 New
            +1
            I just heard that the Czechs for the war were captured by our 60000 people, how many died Shishkin did not say. Those who liberated Czechoslovakia with us, killed 4000 people.
            So think about whether they are henchmen or not. Not to mention the fact that almost a third of the weapons delivered to Hitler was Czechoslovakia.
      3. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 7 May 2020 12: 41 New
        12
        Quote: 210ox
        Evacuate the monuments to their homeland? I think that is correct. But! For the money of those in power. It was they who launched the case on the brakes.

        Colleague, this cannot be done!
        Can you imagine how many remains and burials of Soviet soldiers are in Eastern Europe ?!
        It’s impossible even to allow such an opportunity, having transported one monument, we will betray millions of other fallen.
        It is clear that our power is to blame for disrespect for memory, so we must force this power to seek respect for the memory of our soldiers.
      4. radiootdel4
        radiootdel4 7 May 2020 13: 14 New
        +1
        Evacuate the monuments to their homeland? I think that is correct.

        And I think it’s wrong. It would be right to go there and make them put the monuments back. I don’t need to explain what to go on.
        BUT this will not happen, and it will also be wrong. But it’s right - to conduct an investigation on each fact and to convict those responsible and put them on the international wanted list. Let these bastards ride and look around? suddenly we stopped in a country that will issue them ....
    2. Varyag71
      Varyag71 7 May 2020 12: 37 New
      +1
      what are you smoking?
    3. pereselenec
      pereselenec 7 May 2020 12: 38 New
      -7
      Can minusculeers justify why they put me cons? Our grandfathers did not eat up, but privately, they bought whole tanks for the front. Now there is also a war, only an information war, on which the monuments are the same tanks. Does all your patriotism boil down to couch from the couch? Like, how to drink vodka and wave St. George ribbons - everything is in order. How did it become possible to really do something for the memory of victory, and voluntarily - wild fury towards me, as if I want to cut off your finger. Or is it the Bendery trolls minus?

      1. Plate
        Plate 7 May 2020 12: 47 New
        0
        And this, apparently, is a tacit answer to the article's question: "Have our values ​​changed?"
      2. DEDPIHTO
        DEDPIHTO 7 May 2020 13: 41 New
        +8
        Quote: pereselenec
        How did the opportunity to really do something for the memory of
        What an opportunity, where? In general, in your right mind, you should turn to a cowardly scam, and even collect money from the people. Precisely in Russia for 100 years of fools in store. Write better in Sportloto, there is not in the bunker, they will not be deceived.
        ps Apparently you stuffed a minus for this and one from me on shoulder straps.
        1. pereselenec
          pereselenec 7 May 2020 14: 55 New
          -7
          Quote: DEPHIHTO
          Quote: pereselenec
          How did the opportunity to really do something for the memory of
          What an opportunity, where? In general, in your right mind, you should turn to a cowardly scam, and even collect money from the people.


          First, there was no talk about "collecting", the initiative is purely voluntary. But it should be administered by the official authorities, who have the opportunity to contact foreign Foreign Ministries with a request regarding the evacuation of monuments. A private person cannot do this.

          Secondly, you now called the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, who returned Crimea to us, "a cowardly scammer" ?? Are you in bulk for an hour?
  2. marchcat
    marchcat 7 May 2020 11: 53 New
    +7
    in fact, have our values, even with regard to the memory of our ancestors, remained unchanged?
    If you listen to and see what the "liberos" say, then this is exactly the impression one gets. In general, the authorities are so loyal to everything that happens that it becomes disgusting!
    1. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 7 May 2020 12: 06 New
      14
      I agree. So maybe then this power is the very "libero"?
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 7 May 2020 12: 13 New
        17
        Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
        I agree. So maybe then this power is the very "libero"?

        Kamrad, do you still have doubts?
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 May 2020 12: 33 New
      0
      Quote: marchcat
      If you listen to and see what the "liberos" say, then this is exactly the impression one gets. In general, the authorities are so loyal to everything that happens

      I agree with you. I wrote a lot of negative things about the demolition of monuments in Europe, and about Europe itself and its liberation, and I received a lot of unpleasant words from liberal-democratic users. Therefore, it is better to keep silent.
  3. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 7 May 2020 11: 58 New
    27
    And nothing happens to us. Everything already happened to us in 1991-93. There was such a country - the Soviet Union, 1/6 of the earth's land was occupied. There was such a people - the Soviet people. And that's all. The word "was" is key.
    The monument, but what a monument is there, we have demolished the whole country in 91-93. And what? Is Eastern Europe to blame for the demolition of the USSR? It is even more amazing how long these monuments stood. So there are fewer tantrums in the ashes.
    "Having lost their head, they don't cry for their hair"
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 May 2020 12: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: Old Fuck
      But nothing happens to us. Everything has already happened to us in 1991-93.

      It all started earlier, and ended in December 1991. Well, then everything went downward.
  4. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 7 May 2020 11: 58 New
    +8
    They fought for the Nazis or worked for the Nazis voluntarily, participated in the genocide. Some in all wars fought against Russia and the USSR ..... troops left there .... Who and what was hoping for in this regard?
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 7 May 2020 12: 17 New
      0
      Quote: Zaurbek
      They fought for the Nazis or worked for the Nazis voluntarily, participated in the genocide. Some in all wars fought against Russia and the USSR ..... troops left there .... Who and what was hoping for in this regard?

      It is necessary to ask Gorbachev what he hoped for in this regard when the Soviet troops were withdrawn from the Warsaw Pact countries.
      After all, it’s personally Gorbachev after my trip to the USA, before reaching the USSR and without any preliminary agreements with other leaders in the USSR, he dissolved the military alliance of the Warsaw Pact countries, announcing at a meeting of the Warsaw Pact countries that the United States is no longer an adversary to the USSR, and therefore the USSR is withdrawing from the Warsaw Pact on his personal discretion.
      The representatives of the "Warsaw Pact" countries were just against the dissolution of the military alliance of the "Warsaw Pact" countries.

      Gorbachev - an ordinary American agent • Jul 13. 2013 year
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 7 May 2020 12: 19 New
        +2
        This is already in the past. Fact. Now who and what is hoping for?
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 7 May 2020 13: 25 New
          -5
          Quote: Zaurbek
          This is already in the past. Fact. Now who and what is hoping for?

          Putin and Shoigu are trying to restore the FULL sovereignty of our country - the Russian Federation. Namely.

          When the USSR lost the Cold War with the United States and collapsed, the Russian Federation lost its sovereignty. Our sovereignty is very slowly restored over the years, but it is still very far from full restoration.

          Now the Russian Federation does not have FULL sovereignty, it is only PARTIAL.
          And this is well understood in the West.

          So, the provocative anti-Russian and Russophobic actions in Eastern Europe are aimed precisely at hindering the restoration of the FULL state sovereignty of Russia.

          By the way, I wrote yesterday in my comments of what basic elements the FULL sovereignty of the country consists of.
          1. pereselenec
            pereselenec 7 May 2020 15: 39 New
            +5
            Quote: Tatiana
            Quote: Zaurbek
            This is already in the past. Fact. Now who and what is hoping for?

            Putin and Shoigu are trying to restore the FULL sovereignty of our country - the Russian Federation. Namely.

            When the USSR lost the Cold War with the United States and collapsed, the Russian Federation lost its sovereignty. Our sovereignty is very slowly restored over the years, but it is still very far from full restoration.

            Now the Russian Federation does not have FULL sovereignty, it is only PARTIAL.
            And this is well understood in the West.

            So, the provocative anti-Russian and Russophobic actions in Eastern Europe are aimed precisely at hindering the restoration of the FULL state sovereignty of Russia.

            By the way, I wrote yesterday in my comments of what basic elements the FULL sovereignty of the country consists of.


            Well, let's hope that by the year 2036, GDP will finally gain decisiveness, if it does not regain FULL sovereignty, then at least STOP RESIGNING CHUBAIS ANNUALLY.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 7 May 2020 16: 07 New
              -1
              Quote: pereselenec
              Well, let's hope that by the year 2036, GDP will finally gain decisiveness, if it does not regain FULL sovereignty, then at least STOP RESIGNING CHUBAIS ANNUALLY.

              I repeat. So far, there is no MUCH sovereignty of the Russian Federation so that Putin can eliminate Chubais.
              Chubais - the ABSOLUTE creature of the United States.
              1. SVM
                SVM 7 May 2020 16: 20 New
                +3
                Quote: Tatiana
                I repeat. So far, there is no MUCH sovereignty of the Russian Federation so that Putin can eliminate Chubais.
                Chubais - the ABSOLUTE creature of the United States.

                That’s exactly what Tatyana is .. No wonder Chubais, the red fox is so brazenly smiling, knowing that he will not be touched .. But for now ..
                Colonels Kvochkova in Russia have not yet transferred .. hi
              2. pereselenec
                pereselenec 7 May 2020 16: 25 New
                0
                Quote: Tatiana
                So far, there is no MUCH sovereignty of the Russian Federation so that Putin can eliminate Chubais.
                Chubais - the ABSOLUTE creature of the United States.


                Nobody talks about "elimination". For starters, a normal NOT reassignment will do. How do you technically imagine this in yourself. Here, they bring to Putin a document on the reappointment of Chubais. Putin should simply not put his signature on it. Maybe a State Department sniper is currently holding him at gunpoint, and Putin, crying with frustration, powerlessly puts his signature under the order ... And if he doesn't put and reappoint Chubais, then what will happen? Will the Americans bomb the Kremlin and the bunker with Putin for refusing to sign? I doubt it. Will Russia be economically under pressure? And now they are pressing with sanctions.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 May 2020 12: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Some in all wars fought against Russia and the USSR ..... troops left there .... Who and what was hoping for in this regard?

      As well as the wolf hopes to teach to guard the herd of sheep.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 7 May 2020 12: 43 New
        +5
        So inappropriately every time such tearful articles
  5. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 7 May 2020 11: 59 New
    -1
    do not confuse Hegel with Bebel ... a monument is a memory ... and they want to erase this memory from their people ... but our people will always remember this ... and pride, this, according to the Holy Fathers of the Orthodox Church, - the mother of all sins ...
    1. helmi8
      helmi8 7 May 2020 12: 08 New
      +7
      Quote: Pvi1206
      and they want to erase this memory from their people ...

      They say "The victors write history" ... So now this history is being taken away from us and rewritten with the tacit consent of our rulers. We will continue to be silent - in 10 years Russia will not be the winner in this war, but that she unleashed it ... This is where everything goes.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 7 May 2020 12: 11 New
        10
        Quote: helmi8
        So now this story is being taken from us and rewritten with the tacit consent of our rulers

        This is called aiding.
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 7 May 2020 12: 12 New
      +4
      Do not confuse pride with pride. In Russian, all the accents are highlighted. If we are talking about the holy fathers, then the behavior of the Czech authorities is “the merchants of their temple”. which Jesus dispersed without turning his cheek. The monument should definitely be taken away and placed practically at the gates of the Czech embassy in Moscow. A dip. relations - to reduce to the very minimum, departure on Czech tourist visas - to prohibit. For German visas, please go to Europe. Daragye scatter. This is what a self-respecting country would do. But it only seems to me that we have a lot of Czech beer lovers, including the State Duma. Managers have no pride. Correctly wrote above about 1993. - Woe to the vanquished.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 May 2020 13: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Pvi1206
      do not confuse Hegel with Bebel ... a monument is a memory ... and they want to erase this memory from their people.

      Here you have the Engels-Marxes, but those who are trying to erase our memory, they fought against Russia all the time, and nothing will redo them, just like trying to make a shepherd out of a wolf, nothing will come out anyway.
  6. Kronos
    Kronos 7 May 2020 12: 03 New
    16
    What should Europeans be blamed for if the authorities hate us and the USSR and do everything to strengthen their bourgeoisie
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 7 May 2020 12: 27 New
      15
      Ebn center is a direct confirmation of this. And the Mausoleum, hidden in cardboard boxes on the holy day of May 9.
  7. knn54
    knn54 7 May 2020 12: 04 New
    +4
    Slave, consumer psychology. Such people completely lack the concept of gratitude.
    Pilsudski, for example, recruited his legionnaires mainly from lands under the "control" of the Germans and Austrians. Where, unlike the Kingdom of Poland, the Polish language was not allowed in schools.
    Respect only power. Yes, even for thirty years, brainwashed, including ours.
    In fact, a "spit" in the direction of Russia. And in response, ONLY CARE.
    And a pointless debate, at home.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 May 2020 13: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: knn54
      And a pointless debate, at home.

      And at the talk show of Solovyov-Kiselev.
  8. Jarserge
    Jarserge 7 May 2020 12: 05 New
    -1
    What do you want? How many people are here on the site and in general on the Internet, in the press, in the literature who are shaming in our past. According to the Russian passport, imagining themselves the conscience of the nation, etc. etc. Having set as their goal to search for negativity, to discuss nasty things, relish ... Forgetting that foreigners quite cope with the obligation to cheat on us. And after our attitude to our past, to our heroes who have defended our Homeland, you want the Czechs to respect us and our memory?
  9. Olegater
    Olegater 7 May 2020 12: 07 New
    +5
    Dear author!
    Tell me, at the present time, among the representatives of the authorities, who can intercede for our memory? Who of those in power who have the levers in their "hands" can really answer these fascist mats for such vandalism?
    And I’ll say, NO ONE AND NO ONE.
    Selling, betrayal and ... rev. The main thing to grab and that would not touch them. What other memory, what kind of war and monuments are there ?? !!!
    ANSWER could be normal, only corruption and tongue stuck in one place interfere. Although they do not interfere, they help to erase the memory of the people. The less remembered, the easier it is to manage.
    These demolished obelisks, monuments, this is an indicator of worthlessness, lack of will.
  10. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 7 May 2020 12: 10 New
    +2
    An article from the series "I painted a pen" ...
    This is not the first time this topic has been discussed. I am sure that the wrong, failed foreign policy of the "top" is to blame.
    Until the neighbors saw enemies in us, they did not recall the old insults. But it was worth starting in the 14th redistribution of spheres of influence and recalled the smallest insults and infringements!
    1. Varyag71
      Varyag71 7 May 2020 12: 57 New
      +4
      Now the pseudo-patriots will say that we have a strong foreign policy.
  11. AK1972
    AK1972 7 May 2020 12: 17 New
    +3
    Our government just needs to show at least some political will. First, take and ban the import of Czech beer, imposing sanctions until the mockery of the monuments ceases. If you don’t want to do it honestly and openly, incite Rospotrebnadzor, since there is experience with Belarusian milk. Beer is just an example. when the Czechs begin to lose exports, their business will react instantly and Marshal Konev will return to its place. The best blow under capitalism is a blow to your pocket.
    1. pereselenec
      pereselenec 7 May 2020 15: 44 New
      -1
      Quote: AK1972
      Our government just needs to show at least some political will. First, take and ban the import of Czech beer,

      This time, the Czechs just won’t get off with beer, I tell you.
      1. AK1972
        AK1972 7 May 2020 16: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: pereselenec
        This time, the Czechs just won’t get off with beer, I tell you.

        Like Poles are apples and Turks are tomatoes?
  12. Undecim
    Undecim 7 May 2020 12: 24 New
    +6
    What happens to us: in Eastern Europe, not monuments are dismantled, but our sense of pride
    Do you remember the series "Gangster Petersburg"? There was very good advice: "Learn to find the reasons for all your problems in yourself, you look - and there will be fewer problems ..."
  13. Amateur
    Amateur 7 May 2020 12: 29 New
    +3
    Minus Konev, minus Chernyakhovsky, minus Bronze soldier, minus, minus, minus ...

    But in Russia every year is a plus: a plywood camouflage sarcophagus around the historical rostrum of the mausoleum. We are shy ourselves, but we want others to respect. In Great Britain and Ireland, Cromwell massacred so many people that Yaguda and Yezhov never dreamed of. But no one boils up his monuments with plywood. This is history. It was.
  14. Pavel73
    Pavel73 7 May 2020 12: 34 New
    -4
    Our answer should be simple: we will not forgive Europe for the next war!
  15. Tycoon
    Tycoon 7 May 2020 12: 35 New
    -5
    What kind of tantrum about this monument ???? The Czechs have the right to dismantle it, if this monument is dear to the Russian Federation, then let it be placed at their embassy or taken away to the Russian Federation. As for historical memory - this monument does not affect it in any way, even if it stands in its place, then the Czechs who were born after 1989 are unlikely to be interested, but who is Konev ???? Especially if they don’t have it in their school or university program .... this also applies to Russian youth - there are monuments in the Russian Federation, and young people can’t say anything about them ...

    So deal with historical memory at home - and then say something else ....

    By the way, Czechs remember Prague Spring much better than Marshal Konev - so that they have the right to their actions regarding the history of the USSR .....
    1. Pavel73
      Pavel73 7 May 2020 12: 37 New
      +4
      What tantrums? If we forget the war, war will come again. So she goes. Already came to Ukraine. The West is a mad dog (c) Slobodan Milosevic.
      1. Tycoon
        Tycoon 7 May 2020 12: 42 New
        -4
        Well, yes, yes, as always the West is to blame))))) If the West wanted a war, then already in the 90s everyone would have finished ..... and the quote from dictator Milosevic is nonsense ....
        1. Pavel73
          Pavel73 7 May 2020 12: 49 New
          0
          In the 90s, as now, our nuclear weapons saved us. They would tear us to pieces if they were not afraid of losing control of our arsenals.
        2. Aleksandr21
          Aleksandr21 7 May 2020 17: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: Tycoon
          Well, yes, yes, as always the West is to blame))))) If the West wanted a war, then already in the 90s everyone would have finished ..... and the quote from dictator Milosevic is nonsense ....


          You do not see the whole picture, it seems to you that there is such a good West and there is a bad Russia / USSR that resists a good life, and if it were not for Putin, then Russia would have taken the right path (probably this is what many think in Ukraine), but the reality is much more complicated. The USA won the Cold War, they destroyed the USSR and imposed a new world order on the world. And the "aid" to Russia in the 90s was solely so that our country was under American control and never raised its head again, and the hopes of those naive Russians (as Americans believed in the 90s) for equal cooperation were dashed against reality. And the Putin who is today is the result of US policy, I advise you to study history, and about promises about not expanding NATO, and about the Munich conference in 2007 and, in general, study the issue from different angles and points of view.
      2. Tycoon
        Tycoon 7 May 2020 12: 45 New
        -3
        By the way, about the war in Ukraine - a big hello to Comrade Putin ......
        1. Pavel73
          Pavel73 7 May 2020 12: 55 New
          -2
          And the war came to Ukraine from the West!
          1. Tycoon
            Tycoon 7 May 2020 12: 58 New
            -2
            of course, definitely ......))))) if the geographic map is turned upside down, then the war has definitely come from the west .....
            1. Pavel73
              Pavel73 7 May 2020 13: 30 New
              0
              There is nothing to turn over there. From western Ukraine, from this Bandera viper, the Nazis came to Kiev and bent all the Russians. To the applause and with the direct participation of the Western authorities (USA and EU).
              1. Tycoon
                Tycoon 7 May 2020 13: 42 New
                -3
                something I didn’t see in Kiev and I don’t see that someone would bend the Russians here .... so there’s no need to fantasize ......
                1. Pavel73
                  Pavel73 7 May 2020 14: 13 New
                  -3
                  So they have already bent all without exception, and personally you too. And the relevant laws adopted. To eliminate the Russian people in Ukraine. You put up with this, Crimea and Donbass - no.
    2. saigon
      saigon 7 May 2020 13: 18 New
      +2
      Well, how did the glorious Czech partisans (who the hell knows where they came from) shoot German soldiers who laid down their arms (the Nazis shot me and damn them) do you remember that in 1945? Probably remember how heroically they used weapons for the Wehrmacht.
      Well, how did the Germans deported robbing them to the port, and even the underpants ripping off the Czechs remember or not?
      I remember from Siberia and the white whales, there were rare creatures.
  16. AAK
    AAK 7 May 2020 12: 40 New
    -1
    One state can influence the other in a politico-diplomatic, economic-financial or military way.
    The Czechs did not give a damn about the diplomatic protests of the Russian Federation. There are also no common political structures between the Russian Federation and the Czech Republic, the Russian Federation is not a member of the European Parliament and does not have the possibility of legal political pressure. Economically or financially, the Russian Federation also has no leverage over the Czech Republic (EMNIP in the Czech Republic does not have any serious enterprises, banks or agricultural holdings owned by the Russian Federation. Also, the Russian Federation is not a major holder of Czech foreign debt). For military influence - there is no common border. Even in the tourism sector, far more Russians travel to the Czech Republic than Czechs to Russia.
    As for the possibility of experiencing a significant share of the Czech population of a certain moral shame before Russia (the USSR), this also does not exist. The period from 1945 to 1991, the Czechs for themselves do not perceive as the most prosperous. For 45 years, the bourgeois system that has developed over the centuries in the Czech Republic has not turned into a socialist one, and could not have turned ...
    The conclusion is clear to each of us, colleagues ...
    1. Pavel73
      Pavel73 7 May 2020 12: 43 New
      -2
      The conclusion is simple: if the West again goes to war with us, as in the 41st, we will no longer free and save anyone. We will burn down all those who attacked us, and all who helped them. We will have nothing more to lose.
    2. Tycoon
      Tycoon 7 May 2020 12: 43 New
      0
      and what moral shame should the Czech Republic experience before Russia (USSR) ????
      1. Pavel73
        Pavel73 7 May 2020 12: 46 New
        -1
        And such that without a fight she surrendered to the Third Reich, and with all her factories she worked for the Nazis. Weapons shot not only German, but also Czech-made weapons.
        1. Tycoon
          Tycoon 7 May 2020 12: 49 New
          -2
          Germany came first, bent the Czech Republic - then the USSR came, bent the Czech Republic ..... and why should there be some kind of moral shame, and Italy, Austria did the weapons for the Reich and France - so should they also have some kind of shame? and by the way, factories worked for Germany in the occupied part of the USSR - should they be ashamed too?
          1. Pavel73
            Pavel73 7 May 2020 12: 53 New
            -2
            In the occupied part of the USSR, what we could evacuate, what we could not - blew up. And the "resistance" that the French, Czechs and others showed to the Nazi occupiers is a laughing matter compared to our resistance. They found a couple of real people: Charles de Gaulle in France and Captain Pavlik in the Czech Republic. We saved the honor of our peoples. Not for long. And the USSR did not bend the Czech Republic. The USSR did not bend anyone at all. Never.
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 7 May 2020 13: 02 New
        -4
        Indeed, what shame can an ungrateful pig have, if only because they even live in this world?
        1. Pavel73
          Pavel73 7 May 2020 14: 14 New
          -2
          Well, this is a lesson to us. Never again save and release anyone. And to live with all neighbors according to the principle: whoever is not with us is against us.
  17. kriten
    kriten 7 May 2020 12: 43 New
    +1
    The Kremlin has a long sense of pride replaced by a sense of reverence for the unspoken owners, whose opinion it is always guided by.
  18. restless
    restless 7 May 2020 12: 44 New
    -1
    If they demolish the monuments to our heroes, then we need to demolish their monuments here in Russia and put our demolished ones in their place, as well as impose sanctions on these countries and accuse them of promoting Nazism in all international organizations and the press. If you are silent and do nothing, all freed from the Natsiks, at the behest of yourself you know who will do so ...
    1. Kisa
      Kisa 7 May 2020 16: 38 New
      0
      well noticed. interestingly, we have some kind of monuments to white whales along the transiba? the same there for something they died perished at the request of the government ... such a self-incarnation of the power center))
  19. Million
    Million 7 May 2020 12: 44 New
    +5
    No wonder! What does a woman do when changing an old lover for a new one? Throws things out of the old and lives on the money of the new.
    That's the same in politics. There is no place for emotions, only calculation!
  20. Brigadier
    Brigadier 7 May 2020 12: 57 New
    +2
    " And if we do not answer this, how should we respond, then in reality our values, at least with regard to the memory of our ancestors, have remained unchanged? Or are we simply afraid to admit even to ourselves that this is no longer the case?.. "

    And how should we respond to this?
    To go out into the streets of our cities and yell that there is urine until we hoarse?


    We have the elected power in the person of Putin and the Duma leaders, where today the so-called "United Russia" rules, although today they are related only by their name to the real united Russia - our great country, nothing more!
    And since we have power representing the interests of the people, then it must give sobering kicks to those foreign creatures that destroy our memory of that terrible war, where 27 million died.
    But our power (read - Putin and the relatives) actually let everything go by chance and only sometimes, when there is nowhere to go, they allow themselves, (fearfully looking back at the West and the USA), something to squeak there!

    Indeed, many representatives of "our power" in the West have families and accounts ...
    What if the West will perceive their indignation for a real struggle ... and that’s it! ALL !!!
    There will be neither their families, nor accounts ... The West is not shy about doing this ...

    It is only in Russia that Putin and the couples are so brave, because there is no West.
    It is only in Russia that they can:
    - extend the period of retirement contrary to popular opinion,
    - do not allow the introduction of a progressive tax on the rich, which is valid throughout the world, with the exception of Russia,
    - introduce new taxes and increase old ones without any clear explanation to the people,
    - introduce actual restrictions for citizens in the era of the coronovirus without declaring a state of emergency in the country,
    - Etc.
    And why? But because there is no West! That’s the whole explanation ...

    That's why the monuments are demolished to our heroes in the West.
    That is why "our government" is timidly silent in most cases.


    PS
    Imagine that if somewhere in Germany, France or elsewhere in the West today would you begin to dismantle the monuments to American heroes who fought in that war?
    How much physically After that lived those who gave orders to this business and what would the Americans do with the economies of these countries if they continued to do so?
    This is it ...
    1. Pavel73
      Pavel73 7 May 2020 13: 01 New
      0
      Our answer should be this: forgive us Czechs and Poles for the fact that we saved you from the Nazis. We won’t do this anymore. And if someone comes to us from you again with the war, then we will no longer figure out which of you is the enemy here and who is the innocent victim. We will beat everyone.
  21. Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 May 2020 13: 00 New
    -1
    Everything goes to that, to the revision of post-war relations. Maybe it's for the best.
  22. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky 7 May 2020 13: 02 New
    0
    The behavior and ideology of Eastern European countries and peoples is nothing new. The great writer Fedor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky wrote prophetic words almost a century and a half ago, which are now being fully realized:
    ... Russia will never have, and never has, haters, envious people, slanderers, and even obvious enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them liberated! ... I will not spread, but I know that we do not need to demand gratitude from the Slavs, we need to prepare for this in advance. They will begin, upon liberation, their new life, I repeat, precisely from what they beg for from Europe, from England and Germany, for example, the guarantee and protection of their freedom, and even in a concert of the European powers there will be Russia, but they are in protection from Russia will do so. They will certainly begin with the fact that inside themselves, if not directly out loud, they will announce to themselves and convince themselves that they are not obliged to Russia with the slightest gratitude, on the contrary, that they could hardly escape from the power of Russia during the conclusion of the peace by the intervention of a European concert, and not if Europe had intervened, so Russia, having taken them away from the Turks, would have swallowed them immediately, having in mind the expansion of borders and the foundation of the great All-Slavic empire, enslaving the Slavs to a greedy, cunning and barbaric Great Russian tribe.
    I have nothing to add to this.
  23. g1v2
    g1v2 7 May 2020 13: 18 New
    +3
    The history of states is a long-distance race. We must simply not forget such things, and sooner or later opportunities for response will appear. Well, the fact that our former vassals twist our figs is not surprising. Typical behavior of jackals - they try to curry favor with the new owner and spit on the old one. Moreover, the Czechs built equipment for the Wehrmacht throughout the war, and as a protectorate "Bohemia and Moravia" they felt good. The fact that we defeated their owner is not a fact for them, which is perceived as a plus.
    Well, the possible answer is the demolition of all the monuments to the whites in the country. Just need to understand. that the Czechs will then demolish other monuments to our heroes on their territory. request
  24. aglet
    aglet 7 May 2020 13: 22 New
    +2
    Quote: AK1972
    If you don’t want to do it honestly and openly, incite Rospotrebnadzor, since there is experience with Belarusian milk

    in Belarus they don’t have money and houses, that’s why they are so bold and skillful, and in the Czech Republic they have both, and that’s why they are worried
  25. iouris
    iouris 7 May 2020 13: 26 New
    -4
    "They" "dismantle" your feeling ??? - Original.
    And what are the suggestions? Can we repeat it?
    1. Pavel73
      Pavel73 8 May 2020 08: 38 New
      0
      No. But we will not forgive the West for the next crusade against us.
  26. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 7 May 2020 13: 42 New
    +1
    everyday for Eastern European countries. Baltic States, Poland, Bulgaria, Ukraine, now the Czech Republic.


    I don’t understand why he sits down to write if he is too lazy to check everything. Mr. Volodin, where was the Russian monument removed in Bulgaria?

    I get a little angry with laziness and pseudo-patriotism - everyone is bad, everyone offends us.
    So, last week in Sofia a holistic and expensive restoration of the monument to the Red Army in the Lozenets quarter was completed. I may not be an admirer of the monuments of the Red Army, but I welcome the care of the municipality and the money that is allocated to it. And they could write off funds and put them into medical institutions, since in the middle of the epidemic a lot of things are needed.



    It’s a half a kilometer away from us - if you do not believe me, I can go and shoot, especially for VO readers. Because the Russian embassy and the presa reflect all the negative, but the restoration of the monument in Bulgaria is not, it is not our policy ...
    1. Volodin
      7 May 2020 14: 03 New
      0
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      do not believe I can go and shoot, specifically for readers

      You better, Mr. Keyser, photograph the brute that is pouring paint over the monuments to the liberators, then painting over the Mickey Mouse. Then you will tell.
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 7 May 2020 16: 04 New
        0
        take pictures of the cattle that is pouring paint over the monuments to the liberators, then painting over the "Mickey Mouse".


        Well, at least they did not think of a kebab on an eternal flame to fry. Oh, I forgot - it's a Russian national hobby. Only on the first page of the search engine there are five cases from Peter to Makhachkala .... I mean that there are enough vandals everywhere and you did not answer which monument was demolished in Bulgaria? Or pile everything in a heap and there the article is ready and the Lord will separate his?
        1. cniza
          cniza 7 May 2020 17: 04 New
          +2
          This is so, but this does not mean that it is necessary to forgive the demolition of monuments, and our vandals receive their work properly ...
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 7 May 2020 18: 44 New
            +1
            This is so, but this does not mean that the demolition of monuments must be forgiven.


            Well, so do not forgive. And you have the status of a great power, so it should be and leverage. A matter of desire and good lawyers.
            1. cniza
              cniza 7 May 2020 18: 57 New
              0
              We ask, do not hesitate, only then do not be offended ...
        2. Volodin
          7 May 2020 18: 45 New
          0
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          Well, at least they did not think of a kebab on an eternal flame to fry. Oh, I forgot - it's a Russian national hobby.

          What an abomination you write. Another direct insult to the Russians. Apparently, this is a hobby of everyone who threw home.

          For your information. Everyone who "fried a kebab" on the Eternal Flame in Russia has long been identified and received criminal punishment. Bulgarian diplomats, in response to a request about when those responsible for vandalism against monuments to Soviet soldiers in Bulgaria will be punished, send replies in the style of "Investigation is underway. The perpetrators will be punished."

          Quote: Keyser Soze
          and you did not answer, what monument was demolished in Bulgaria?

          If you write comments with questions, then for starters, at least read carefully the material you are commenting on. Especially for you, I’ll highlight a fragment of it:

          "Demolition of monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators, acts of vandalism with regard to monuments and military graves are already becoming something everyday for the countries of Eastern Europe. The Baltic States, Poland, Bulgaria, Ukraine, now the Czech Republic. "
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 7 May 2020 19: 01 New
            0
            liberators, acts of vandalism against military graves


            Mr. Volodin ... in World War II, not one Red Army soldier was killed in Bulgaria in military operations. And the monument to the Red Army in Sofia is not a burial at all, but a tasteless apotheosis of socialism. If I were a Red Army man, I would be offended by this bad taste. If you keep having a good monument of the Red Army in Sofia, you better take this, drown it in the Black Sea and build something better in its place.

            As a conclusion, no one committed acts of vandalism over your military graves (there are few of them at all, it seems, there are in Plovdiv ...) and did not demolish the monuments. We even repair and restore them at our expense, so that they look good, they are not in Bangladesh ....
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          2. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 7 May 2020 19: 32 New
            +1
            Bulgarian diplomats, in response to a request about when those responsible for vandalism against monuments to Soviet soldiers in Bulgaria will be punished, throw replies in the style of "Investigation is underway. The perpetrators will be punished."


            Now I checked - the monument to the Soviet army was placed under video surveillance and protection. Youngsters with sprays are regularly arrested. And they are fined for it. We don’t have a prison for this.

            So we can’t shoot the darkness of the people, because they don’t like the Red Army. By the way, they desecrate not only your monuments, but they regularly do it with churches, monuments of our heroes, cemeteries (Jewish or Mysyulmansky), and so on. This generation has grown in the last 30 years. And with us and with you.
      2. Bagatur
        Bagatur 7 May 2020 16: 07 New
        +1
        Released at age 44? Well beat called things by their names ...
  27. victor50
    victor50 7 May 2020 13: 44 New
    0
    Quote: 210ox
    One villain who has betrayed the entire socialist community feels quite well on a personal pension at your expense with us. And his descendants rule the ball.

    And we have not betrayed anything by allowing such actions of the "villain"? request
  28. Asad
    Asad 7 May 2020 13: 48 New
    +1
    .. they must, in the literal sense, catch the ringleader who decided to demolish the monument and break it! And let them scream, but others will think a hundred times! And these NOTES! They sneezed laughing!
  29. AU Ivanov.
    AU Ivanov. 7 May 2020 13: 53 New
    0
    It’s impossible to dismantle our pride. It is always with us. The Czechs dismantled their decency, if any.
    1. iouris
      iouris 7 May 2020 14: 29 New
      0
      Quote: AS Ivanov.
      Czechs dismantled their decency

      No need to generalize, name specific Czechs. What does decency have to do with it? This is a continuation of politics by other means. Politics is a concentrated expression of economics. The Czech Republic is the EU, the EU is the FRG, the FRG is an occupied state, the owner of the FRG is the United States, the US administration is pursuing a policy that transnational corporations "order" ... Other governments too. Or you have to go to war. They invite you.
      1. Volodin
        7 May 2020 14: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: iouris
        Or you have to come to war. They invite the same.

        And you have only two options: to continue to wind snot on a fist or to immediately declare war? if I understand you correctly.
        1. iouris
          iouris 7 May 2020 14: 39 New
          0
          You said that. And what is the third option?
          1. Volodin
            7 May 2020 14: 45 New
            -1
            M-d ... Yes, the reader will master the article
            1. iouris
              iouris 7 May 2020 17: 02 New
              +2
              Do you pretend? Define the goal (what should be achieved), analyze the conditions for achieving the goal and resources, determine the subject and object, formulate the task (for the subject). Only in this case can one speak on the merits. No goal - no system. So for whom is this text written? Why do you consider yourself responsible for all - what is your evidence?
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 7 May 2020 17: 14 New
        0
        The West does generalize. Remember the famous panicky "Russians are coming!" Without any specifics and without naming the names of these Russians. So, we also have the right to say "Czechs" without naming their names.
    2. cniza
      cniza 7 May 2020 17: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      It’s impossible to dismantle our pride. It is always with us. The Czechs dismantled their decency, if any.


      They also dismantled the memory for their future generations, who again will go to fight against us ...
  30. Asad
    Asad 7 May 2020 16: 25 New
    -1
    Probably my idea is naive, but until they are afraid of us nothing will change! I decided to demolish the scum monument, got it in the face, from whom, let it guess! Next time, he’ll think if it’s worth it! Israeli secret services are not shy, and ours do not need!
  31. Unknown
    Unknown 7 May 2020 16: 34 New
    +1
    we ourselves gave us reasons to treat us like that, and we don’t have to arrange tantrums. respect yourself, others will respect, as it was, it is. Well, what respect for us will be if Khrushchev removes from the memory of the Soviet people the city of STALINGRAD, renaming it Volgograd. the whole world knows about the STALINGRAD battle, there is a medal for the defense of STALINGRAD, even in France, which didn’t differ in love with us, but nevertheless in Paris, the name STALINGRAD bears both the boulevard, the metro station, and the square, in Brussels, avenue and hotel, in Bologna central street. but only with us from the map of the USSR, this name has disappeared. only deputies for the sake of the current moment, they are going to return this name to the city, but nothing. absolutely no. only we have generals who commanded the fronts, armies, but there is no supreme commander. only we ourselves could ruin the alliance, betray millions of Soviet soldiers who died, who fought for the Soviet Union, for Soviet power, and not for what we have now. only we have power in power, I can ride the world and repent, for the USSR existed, as Yeltsin did, in the states, burn him in hell. and unfortunately again with us, the current ruler, also repented to the Poles, for what the USSR did not. everyone is already accustomed to the fact that the current stump of the union, under the name of the Russian Federation, has endured and is ready to repent for what was and for what was not. all the world authority that our ancestors created was not just what they profiled for years, centuries. we can rise again I don’t know. and trampling us, with the current government will still be how to give a drink.
  32. stropon
    stropon 7 May 2020 16: 40 New
    0
    I consider it quite fair to support our lights of Russian glory throughout Europe. After all, if we don’t take care of the monuments in Europe, then the sweet Europeans will definitely not. It remains only to find out who will do this. Maybe through the embassies of the Russian Federation somehow you can hire looking after the monuments?
    1. pereselenec
      pereselenec 7 May 2020 16: 51 New
      +1
      Maybe through the embassies of the Russian Federation somehow you can hire looking after the monuments?

      The idea is my reverence.
    2. Ryaruav
      Ryaruav 7 May 2020 17: 50 New
      0
      I think it’s necessary to take everything away, including Kutuzov, well, and let them take their own along with the rut from Urengoy and his teachers
  33. cniza
    cniza 7 May 2020 16: 59 New
    +3
    Ordinary people, they say, actually value us, love, respect us. But somewhere very deep in the soul. So, he doesn’t give a damn about dismantling the monuments, because he’s busy with his own affairs.


    And they will forget everything, and they will once again go to war against us. as it was already repeatedly ...
  34. eklmn
    eklmn 7 May 2020 17: 08 New
    0
    “Indeed, in Eastern Europe, not only statues and memorial plaques are dismantled, they dismantle our sense of pride, self-esteem.”
    And this is a response for those humiliations from Putin's Russia over the past 20 years. For all this time, Russia was unable to come to terms with the independent policies of the Eastern European countries and criticized, crushed, barked at the decisions of their governments. The Russian media could not calmly accept the decisions of these states to get away from the petty custody of the “elder brother” and poured mud tubs onto the peoples of these countries. For non-believers, read the reaction of the Russian media about the decision of these countries to join NATO and other independent decisions such as u_kogo_buy_arms / gas, etc. “Vassal”, “lizun” and other unflattering characteristics to the decisions of their governments poured from all the Russian media. And you think that they have not read what Russia thinks of them? Or do you think that you can’t be offended after this? Or their closure of the accounts of the “Prigogine factory”, from where the disinformation and lies came from - this, in your opinion, should promote friendship between the countries?
    And as a result, the natural reaction is the demolition of monuments, the only thing that reminds of today's Russia. At least somehow express my attitude to that great-power, arrogant, instructive, degrading tone of a superpower country, but with a gas station mentality.
    See for yourself on this site how much shouting, not criticism, was addressed to any of these countries: Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic states, the Bulgarians, the former Yugoslavia. And you think that they do not know your opinion?
    So the reaction is completely normal, human ...
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 7 May 2020 22: 04 New
      0
      The reaction to close the monuments of the past to today's evil country
  35. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 7 May 2020 17: 47 New
    0
    literally in 10 years, our population under the age of 25 percent of commercials 98 will not know such people as horses, fishing, rokossovsky, berzarin, baht and many many others it is very bad, but this all goes
    1. iouris
      iouris 7 May 2020 17: 50 New
      0
      Quote: Ryaruav
      literally in 10 years

      More precisely after 11 (Moses led the flock through the desert for forty years).
      1. Ryaruav
        Ryaruav 7 May 2020 17: 54 New
        0
        I'm sorry, firstly I am Russian, and secondly an atheist, and 10 years is so pretty, people prefer decimal numbers
        1. iouris
          iouris 7 May 2020 17: 57 New
          0
          I am not a Jew either. And what do you dislike for forty years?
          1. Ryaruav
            Ryaruav 7 May 2020 18: 00 New
            0
            You see, I think in 40 years, besides historians, Ozhukhov will also forget about Stalin, of course, if there is no October even though November2.0
  36. Kushka
    Kushka 7 May 2020 21: 17 New
    0
    Quote: Egorovich
    There must be an answer to every Western provocation. I really liked the proposal of the Duma deputy Sherin. He proposed the adoption of a law and ranked as veterans of military operations of servicemen who took part in the events of Prague in 1968. The fascist henchmen of the Czechs will definitely comb their hair like cat litter.

    How, from the shoulder. And "Torpis is not necessary", "Careful". Once stuck in a hole.
    Films on board are 4 months old. The sailors will understand - "Wait a minute!" 10 episodes back to front -
    and you stand watch in any storm. Our "fisherman" for a meeting - changing - bow and films.
    So there I saw 2 films. The first with Vysotsky is Belarus, partisanism and children.
    In the final, Vysotsky, having run into punishers, leads them away from the camp of children and women.
    The second is the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Czechoslovakia. The main character is an Alkash, in a wretched spirit
    is listed in the orchestra, moonlights at funerals. "Artist" - not washed, not shaved for weeks.
    In the coffin I saw Lenin, Marx, along with the Roosevelts. In the confusion, the Soviet lost
    a boy, about 6. He brings him home, in the house the mouse hanged himself, trying to feed.
    They talk all the time, but they don’t understand each other. In the morning he goes to town
    there is turmoil and desolation. On the wall of the House of Culture Wolf- "Wait a minute" - the child comes to life, he leads
    him there, but he searches, to no avail. Leads to his grandmother, feed. Grandma for
    column windows. One "Ural" stalled - only the soldier's ass from under the hood.
    After a while, the soldier knocks on the door - water would - wash his hands. The boy lights up -
    RUSSIAN SPEECH! - the grandmother freezes - we do not understand. So here is the whole movie from
    monologues of this drunk - he very FUNELY explains why he does not want
    hang out the flag (and its manager (Mordyukova is resting) threatens to evict) on her
    the homeless loggia and, in general, a bunch of complaints AND THEY ARE WANT TO LISTEN TO.
    But since then I can’t find these films. If you help, I will be grateful.
  37. Idolater
    Idolater 8 May 2020 02: 45 New
    +5
    in Eastern Europe, not so much statues and plaques are dismantled, they dismantle our sense of pride, self-esteem

    We harness for a long time, but drive fast. I believe we will rise from sleep, and then little will not seem to anyone!
    1. ser56
      ser56 8 May 2020 21: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Idolater
      then little will not seem to anyone!

      do not voice the program? Want to conquer the EU?
  38. Skarpzd
    Skarpzd 8 May 2020 08: 34 New
    +1
    when we stop spitting ourselves in our history, then we will have the moral right to ask others. in the meantime, on the Victory Day we drape the Mausoleum - we ourselves are not too different.
  39. ser56
    ser56 8 May 2020 21: 29 New
    0
    Does the author suggest that we attack the Czech Republic? OR recognize the banal - they have their own view of history ... request And we need science - no one needs to be freed, just like the withdrawal of troops from captured lines ... request
    It is the latter that is the reason! I would try the headman in the presence of the South-East Army to do this ...
  40. businessv
    businessv 9 May 2020 00: 28 New
    0
    And if we don’t answer this, how should we answer, then in reality our values, at least with regard to the memory of our ancestors, have remained unchanged? Or are we simply afraid to admit even to ourselves that this is no longer the case? ..
    Thank you, Alexey! Good article, you wrote everything correctly and it is clear that not everything and not about everyone, but the main thing is clear, of course - with the loss of the Union and the acquisition of "ideals of capitalism" we, or rather people who store capital in the civilized West, have lost the ability to adequately assess and adequately answer to all the egregious cases of humiliation of our country and our History described by you!
  41. Marina Alenkina
    Marina Alenkina 9 May 2020 16: 35 New
    0
    comrades! Wake up! What kind of liberation ,,, the Czech Republic valiantly supplied Hitler with equipment throughout the war, Almost all the tanks were produced in the Czech Republic, Chekhov was not taken into the German army, t, they forged a victory in the rear, In 1942, strikes on increasing the salary were held in Prague, The Germans almost crushed the advice, and the poor Czechs have no profit. How should they relate to us? Yes, we jumped out of the burning house at the last moment, but we lived well, even very well, And here we are the liberators ,,, Russia needed a safety belt, Stalin built it with the material it was, now Russia is weak, you can recall all the insults, By the way in 68, who raised the butch? those who lived under Hitler well and pray that they would go to the amers on the same conditions, so there is no question of liberation, But the question is different, what kind of demon did so many of our men put for the sake of these fascist minions? But now, remember, only the soul to tear, they took Prague without artillery, threw corpses so that the city would not be destroyed, Did anyone think of Russian women and children? She’s such a story - here’s Koneva, Czech gratitude overtook
  42. 1536
    1536 9 May 2020 18: 31 New
    0
    Quote: victor50
    Quote: Egorovich
    in the events of Prague in 1968. The fascist henchmen of the Czechs will definitely comb their hair like cat litter.

    Can you justify - why? I can not understand the logic of this conclusion.

    For one simple reason that the Czechs were inspired by the propaganda of the Western media that in 1968 the countries participating in the Warsaw Pact organization strangled the so-called Prague Spring, but in fact there was a mutiny (Czechs are not used to organizing riots) against the foundations of socialism in a country that they are now very proud of. The Warsaw Pact organization has long been gone, but Russia remained and became the legal successor of the USSR. Thus, the recognition of the correctness of the introduction of troops (and the legal basis really was, since the agreement on "Friendship and Mutual Assistance" was in force between the USSR, as well as other countries of the Warsaw Pact and the then Czechoslovakia) and the protection of the socialist system in Czechoslovakia, would mean that actions The USSR were correct and necessary. And since the soldiers of the Soviet Army put their lives in danger, defending themselves from the brutal, armed to the teeth Czechs, in accordance with Russian law, they are entitled to benefits as participants in hostilities.
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 9 May 2020 20: 26 New
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      "For one simple reason that the propaganda of the Western media" inspired "
      From the first three words it is clear - you greatly simplify everything.
      Take this, mobilize all your propaganda skills and "inspire"
      to his cat so that he behaves as it should. What do you think, get it?
      We set the task more complicated - try to convince your neighbor in something.
      (I advise you to wear a construction helmet, my dad, for example, sometimes a hammer
      threw at the adviser). And as far as I can remember, my grandfather, father - these were solid personalities
      never listened to either white, red, or priests, not to mention Gorbachev
      there or Yeltsin. Think, the Creator created each of us "by the piece"
      You are UNIQUE and I am UNIQUE. And then a wise guy appears (leader, father
      all peoples, the Fuhrer) and wants everyone to sing some songs, ALL to learn
      ONE verse, and in the end they all went where HE would say. Well, they went alone for ONE
      in 1939 - he died himself and all of them were fired after you. You say - you see -
      It worked. Yes, it worked - through torture cellars, concentration camps, sterilization
      tens, hundreds of thousands. But without this, neither the first nor the second would work
      not a third. So do not exaggerate the role of propaganda. Doubt-
      try with the cat, it is also UNIQUE - the only one in the UNIVERSE.
      And yet, man is not a cat, but HIGHEST CREATION and if you hear from whom
      TRAIN IN THE SPIRIT, TEACH PATRIOTISM - remember Goebels - empty
      a place without Auschwitz
  43. wandlitz
    wandlitz 10 May 2020 19: 31 New
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    So even if the Russian ambassador was recalled from Prague, for a while ...
    IMHO, And then, you see the benefit would be ...
  44. Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 11 May 2020 05: 07 New
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    Our king has already said that we will not allow something there, about our Victory. Not surprised at the lack of fulfillment of his promise. Who is he after that? That's right, M_Dial.
  45. Thomas the Unbelieving
    Thomas the Unbelieving 12 May 2020 13: 36 New
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    All this actually shows that the Great Patriotic War ended, but the Second World Imperial War, which began in 1931 with the Japanese invasion of China, continues, taking various forms at different stages of the division and redivision of the world. It is time to understand that the war with monuments is just one form of war against Russia at the present stage.
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