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May 7 is the Day of creation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

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When a question is raised in our country about a specific day for the creation of the Armed Forces of the country, the majority will answer that this day is February 23rd. And the answer will be justified: that is why February 23 is Defender of the Fatherland Day. And for many Russians there will be news the fact that the day of the creation of the Armed Forces of Russia is celebrated on May 7. On May 7, 1992, the President of the Russian Federation signed a decree on measures to create both the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Ministry of Defense.


The command of the Armed Forces is carried out by the Supreme Commander of the RF Armed Forces, which, on the basis of the country's Basic Law, is the president. Command and control is carried out through interaction with the bodies of the Ministry of Defense, including the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the country.

To date, several military districts have been formed in Russia: Eastern, Central, Southern, Western, as well as a separate military-territorial association - the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy.

The Southern Military District includes 3 combined arms armies, the Air Force and Air Defense Army, the Black Sea Fleet, the 22nd Army Corps and the Caspian flotilla.



The composition of the Central Military District today is as follows: three combined arms armies, including the 2nd Guards Red Banner, 201st military base, and aviation Kant base (Kyrgyzstan).

Eastern Military District: 4 combined arms armies, including the 5th and 35th Red Banners, the Air Force and Air Defense Army (11th) and the Pacific Fleet.



Western Military District: 2 Red Banner Combined Arms, 1 Guards tank Army, Air Force and Air Defense Army, Baltic Fleet.

The Northern Fleet, which, as noted, has the status equivalent to a military district, currently has the following formations: three brigades, including the 80th Arctic, the Air Force and Air Defense Army, the Belomorsky Base, the Kola Flotilla, the surface and submarine forces of the fleet.

As you know, a mixed form of service is retained in the Armed Forces of Russia - contract and conscription service. At the same time, every year the percentage of contracted military personnel in the RF Armed Forces is growing.

Military Review congratulates the Armed Forces on the Day of the formation of the army and navy of the Russian Federation.
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  1. Gardamir
    Gardamir 7 May 2020 07: 12 New
    44
    So they rewrite history. Three ha, Yeltsin created the armed forces of Russia!
    1. knn54
      knn54 7 May 2020 07: 41 New
      12
      May 7 EBN by its decree made a massive reduction of the Armed Forces of the RSFSR.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 7 May 2020 08: 16 New
        -6
        Quote: knn54
        May 7 EBN by its decree made a massive reduction of the Armed Forces of the RSFSR.

        Is that so? After all, there were not just any Armed Forces of the RSFSR, but could not be, as such.
        And, what large-scale reductions can be argued if there was a real Babylonian crowd of former Soviet soldiers, sailors, foremen, officers and generals, and admirals who joined.
        Cockroach races, cracovyak squatting are such massive reductions.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 7 May 2020 08: 50 New
          +7
          Quote: bober1982
          Cockroach races, Cracovian in a squat

          what That is to say the least! Units from the Union republics were relocated secretly, officers were transferred to Russia by hook or by crook, the states were inflated to an incredible size!
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 7 May 2020 09: 01 New
            +1
            Quote: Serg65
            That is to say the least!

            As one aviation general said at the time, the situation was the same as during the Civil War.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 7 May 2020 11: 04 New
              +8
              Quote: bober1982
              As one aviation general said at the time, the situation was the same as during the Civil War.

              the mess was utter. Everything was on sale.
              1. bober1982
                bober1982 7 May 2020 11: 14 New
                +6
                Quote: Silvestr
                the mess was utter. Everything was on sale.

                Yes, I agree, they traded the Motherland, medals, dress uniforms, state property and many others.
          2. knn54
            knn54 7 May 2020 09: 16 New
            +6
            1. Before Yeltsin’s decree, 133 days have passed since the collapse of the USSR.
            2. In Ukraine, also transferred a lot.
            3. I am aware (I remember and talked a lot) that the generals, admirals were practically attached, and the NECESSARY units were disbanded: air defense, navy, air force and naval aviation.
            I understand that reductions (for example, tank units) were necessary. But not the destruction of the BEST and REQUIRED.
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 7 May 2020 09: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: knn54
              1. Before Yeltsin’s decree, 133 days have passed since the collapse of the USSR.

              A masterpiece!
              The CIS Army, the Ukrainian Army, a crowd of military sacking men - order of 07.05.1992/XNUMX/XNUMX, and the creation of the Russian Army.
              And, you are talking about some mythical army of the RSFSR.
            2. nov_tech.vrn
              nov_tech.vrn 7 May 2020 14: 01 New
              +3
              I remember how the officers who rushed transferred to Ukraine, one commander sent on vacation, with an oath promise to release those who bring the relationship, no one left after the vacation, but then they said that Yeltsin and Kravchuk should be hung on the same rope and see who -there will draw.
        2. Magog
          Magog 7 May 2020 13: 54 New
          +2
          there was a real Babylonian crowd of former Soviet soldiers, sailors, foremen, officers and generals, and admirals who joined.
          Any phrase where the phrase is used incorrectly, with the use of "pandemonium" always “cuts my ears”. This word contains two roots from the words "pillar" (temple, place of worship and worship, ...) and "creation". "The crowd" has nothing to do with it, if it meant ... The biblical "Babylonian pandemonium" refers to the description of the construction of the "New Jerusalem", and what meaning do you put in this phrase in the phrase "Babylonian pandemonium"? What were the soldiers and sailors doing in 1992 as a temple?
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 7 May 2020 14: 00 New
            +2
            Quote: Magog
            and what sense do you put in your phrase in the phrase "Babylonian pandemonium"?

            Mixing of peoples
            1. Magog
              Magog 7 May 2020 14: 06 New
              +1
              "Mixing peoples" under the general idea of ​​building a new Rome - Jerusalem! Still, the idea of ​​building a new religious center for the world. And not just a "crowd" of people. This is the main idea of ​​the biblical story. By the way, such a delusion has penetrated into modern explanatory dictionaries, which is sad ...
              1. bober1982
                bober1982 7 May 2020 14: 17 New
                +2
                Quote: Magog
                This is the main idea of ​​the biblical narrative

                You touched on a very interesting topic, you can talk for a very long time, but there is no desire, well, who needs it here. Ears, or something, all of them will be pointed up carefully, and a cultural discussion will flow, of course not.
                1. Magog
                  Magog 7 May 2020 17: 55 New
                  0
                  I didn't count on any "cultural discussion". I am personally not interested in the topic because of its obviousness - there is nothing to argue about! The widespread misconception in the use of banal concepts is surprising.
                  1. bober1982
                    bober1982 7 May 2020 18: 20 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Magog
                    I personally am not interested in the topic

                    If the topic is not interesting, then in what way:
                    Quote: Magog
                    Surprising widespread misconception
                    1. Magog
                      Magog 7 May 2020 18: 28 New
                      -1
                      Do you have a question? Answer: the word "pandemonium" does not apply to a crowd or large gathering of people. This is what follows from a banal biblical expression!
        3. abc_alex
          abc_alex 7 May 2020 23: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: bober1982
          After all, there were not just any Armed Forces of the RSFSR, but could not be, as such.

          Why all of a sudden? The RSFSR did not lose statehood as part of the USSR. She had all the state. attributes ranging from codes and authorities to the flag. After the collapse of the USSR, the RSFSR was simply renamed. So the Armed Forces of the RSFSR could well have been. It was the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the RSFSR.
        4. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka 8 May 2020 12: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: bober1982
          After all, there were not just any Armed Forces of the RSFSR

          and the patom once, and appeared, the wino is a magician right
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 8 May 2020 13: 47 New
            +3
            Well, why, as a magician, the metropolitan party organization voluntarily chose him as their leader, and the Kuzbass miners tore their throats for him!
    2. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO 7 May 2020 08: 09 New
      15
      All so colleague, this bastard with accomplices sawing Soviet Russia into pieces, sawed into pieces and the Army. What is there to celebrate, commemoration or the official date of the cut?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 7 May 2020 08: 17 New
        11
        What to celebrate, commemoration?
        That's exactly what the commemoration is. On June 12, we celebrate the day of the destruction of the Great Country. Go to the site on this day, there will certainly be cooks on duty, telling that "this is not celebrated but the day off."
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 7 May 2020 08: 52 New
          -6
          Quote: Gardamir
          June 12 is the day of the destruction of the Great Country.

          Has a secret enemy attacked this country?
          1. your1970
            your1970 7 May 2020 15: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: Serg65
            Quote: Gardamir
            June 12 is the day of the destruction of the Great Country.

            Has a secret enemy attacked this country?
            - everything is more fun and worse, it was possible to fight off the enemy - but how do you get rid of yourself ??
            this country SIMULTANEOUSLY (!!!!) betrayed both the authorities (CPSU) and the people. That is why the USSR collapsed .... everything was on the drum at him, everyone wanted jeans and sausage ..
          2. Barmaleyka
            Barmaleyka 8 May 2020 12: 29 New
            0
            Quote: Serg65
            Has a secret enemy attacked this country?

            Well, not very secret, but the enemy is definitely
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 8 May 2020 13: 44 New
              +4
              And they were all foreigners, not Soviet citizens? Moreover, two who are in the middle, the sons of senior military political workers! Dad, of the two on the right, I even knew a little .... there was a rare skatina, but how he called for love for Marxism-Leninism, you’ll hear it already ... !!!!
              1. Barmaleyka
                Barmaleyka 8 May 2020 13: 47 New
                -1
                Quote: Serg65
                And they were all foreigners, not Soviet citizens?

                and the enemy must be a foreigner?
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 8 May 2020 13: 56 New
                  +3
                  what Vladimir can be so absurd and recognize Lenin and Stalin as foreign agents, how are you? All these Soviet citizens were not born from scratch, they were all communists and they had a wonderful party career, special presidents, government jobs, smart salaries, which made them become agents of the ideas of older comrades?
                  1. Barmaleyka
                    Barmaleyka 8 May 2020 14: 55 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Vladimir can be so absurd and recognize Lenin and Stalin as foreign agents, how are you?

                    I understand that you have lost all thread of reasoning
                    Quote: Serg65
                    All these Soviet citizens were not born from scratch, they were all communists and a wonderful party career awaited them

                    Gaidar or Chubais did not wait for something to laugh, they were neither who nor call them nor how
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 7 May 2020 08: 51 New
        -7
        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        What is there to celebrate

        laughing Freedom of speech and outpouring!
        1. DEDPIHTO
          DEDPIHTO 7 May 2020 09: 02 New
          11
          They forgot to fool.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 7 May 2020 09: 56 New
            -6
            Quote: DEPHIHTO
            Forgot to fade

            Faded, promoted and wait for the next opportunity?
            Quote: DEPHIHTO
            So joyful today, surely, wills out, at the festive table,

            A day has passed, and God be with him!
            Quote: DEPHIHTO
            according to the line of their party of ebnoputenistov ...

            laughing Do you, the Khodorkians are sad!
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 7 May 2020 11: 22 New
            +7
            Quote: DEPHIHTO
            Forgot to fool, ridiculous.

            they work at night - the fingertips are already worn out from minus. That’s all they can do, political impotent people.
            Tomorrow we’ll see how much my rating after such a drawdown. I take off the screen.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 7 May 2020 11: 39 New
              -3
              Quote: Silvestr
              Tomorrow we’ll see how much my rating after such a drawdown.

              So are you tearing for the rating? And then I thought a sinful thing for the happiness of all peoples, but it won! laughing
              Quote: Silvestr
              they work at night - the fingertips are already worn out from minus.

              And I’ve put a bunch of minuses for myself belay or 6-8 international?
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 7 May 2020 11: 50 New
                +8
                Quote: Serg65
                So are you tearing for the rating? And then I thought a sinful thing for the happiness of all peoples, but it won!

                not at all.
                Quote: Serg65
                And I’ve put a bunch of minuses for myself

                there is a difference: now they were put to you by those who disagree with you, honestly, someone with comments and objections. A nightly minus is sneaking around the corner. I have 4-5 thousand every night and nothing. Okolotochny It turned out to be the most decent - admitted. And I respect him, for honesty. You catch the difference. Here is such a story.
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 7 May 2020 12: 07 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  A nightly minuses

                  And you didn’t get the idea that during the day many are not able to visit the site for various reasons?
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  I have 4-5 thousand every night and nothing.

                  laughing Similarly, by the way!
                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day 7 May 2020 12: 10 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Serg65
                    And you didn’t get the idea that during the day many are not able to visit the site for various reasons?

                    came. Sometimes insomnia itself. That's just a week ago for some reason everyone was asleep, and about 3 days - everyone has insomnia laughing Strange, maybe a coronavirus? laughing
                    By the way, for today I didn’t put you a minus
                    1. Serg65
                      Serg65 7 May 2020 12: 56 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      By the way, for today I didn’t put you a minus

                      laughing And without you enough! I'm cool about the downsides ....
            2. ccsr
              ccsr 7 May 2020 17: 26 New
              0
              Quote: Silvestr
              Tomorrow we’ll see how much my rating after such a drawdown. I take off the screen.

              Don't you care too much about your ranking? Do you need to report to someone?
        2. nov_tech.vrn
          nov_tech.vrn 7 May 2020 14: 03 New
          +3
          celebrate independence from common sense, and freedom to trade the Motherland
        3. Barmaleyka
          Barmaleyka 8 May 2020 12: 29 New
          0
          Quote: Serg65
          Freedom of speech and outpouring!
          and why didn’t they give you that ?!
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 8 May 2020 13: 39 New
            +3
            I am ashamed to say, but did not recourse . I read the history of the CPSU, I told the deputy politician that I’m not ready to join the party yet .... he was offended ... what
            1. Barmaleyka
              Barmaleyka 8 May 2020 13: 46 New
              0
              I would understand if you were not allowed to say that you are not ready, but you did give something to say, and what did you find in the history of the CPSU that shocked you
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 8 May 2020 14: 04 New
                +2
                Well, how can I say, Vladimir, my first opinion was that the book was written either for fools ... sorry, stupid, or stupid! Well, at least a question arose immediately .. Lenin lived and worked in Switzerland ... hmm .. the country is not the cheapest, I apologize for what shisha? In the story about this is silent! And such bloopers and a small cart ..
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 7 May 2020 11: 09 New
        +8
        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        What is there to celebrate, commemoration or the official date of the cut?

        perhaps you are right, the commemoration. It was scary when everyone seemed to be familiar, Soviet, and you were wearing a foreign, alien serviceman. And they, strangers, proudly straightened their shoulders "hosted" your house.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 May 2020 09: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: Gardamir
      Three ha, Yeltsin created the armed forces of Russia!

      And at one point he became a hero from the undertaker. Your affairs are inscrutable, I don’t know who, but not the Lord.
    4. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 7 May 2020 10: 05 New
      +5
      Quote: Gardamir
      So they rewrite history. Three ha, Yeltsin created the armed forces of Russia!

      Strictly speaking, the RF Armed Forces has only an indirect relation to the Soviet Army, a new country - a new army and new holidays.
      Personally, I am opposed to the privatization of the Soviet holidays I love and reign by the new authorities of the Russian Federation.
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 7 May 2020 11: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: Stroporez
        Personally, I am opposed to the privatization of the Soviet holidays I love and reign by the new authorities of the Russian Federation.

        they have the same relation to them as I do to space. It was just necessary to carry the masses along, create a beautiful wrapper for the bitter pill. While the wrapper is deployed, as much as you can for yourself, darlings, do. So they live in the same paradigm: everyone - holidays and circuses, self-paradise
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 7 May 2020 12: 02 New
          +8
          Quote: Silvestr
          While the wrapper is deployed, as much as you can for yourself, darlings, do. So they live in the same paradigm: everyone - holidays and circuses, self-paradise

          By the way, Colleague, many continue to eat demerzo directly with a wrapper, and one can only guess how much pleasure and charity for the inhabitants the robbers rob the country to the music of the anthem of the Soviet Union.
          This is a special chic for a thief, when the victim is delighted, grateful to the robber and praises the criminal herself.
      2. ccsr
        ccsr 7 May 2020 17: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Stroporez
        Strictly speaking, the RF Armed Forces has only an indirect relation to the Soviet Army, a new country - a new army and new holidays.

        This is not entirely true, if only because the fate of all the military personnel of groups of forces was decided by Moscow, and this is only half a million in one GSVG.
        As for the creation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, this was not some significant event, but an ordinary budget event - the Russian Ministry of Finance could not allocate a dime for the maintenance of troops in Russia until such a structure was officially created.
        In general, no one sees any holiday beyond this date, which is why no one especially remembers it.
        Quote: Stroporez
        Personally, I am opposed to the privatization of the Soviet holidays I love and reign by the new authorities of the Russian Federation.

        So do I. Only the authorities do not care at all, if they even canceled on November 7, on May 1 it is not at all clear what kind of holiday it is - at least I can hardly imagine Abramovich and Alekperov at the head of the holiday columns.
    5. Piramidon
      Piramidon 7 May 2020 10: 12 New
      13
      They are trying to erase from the memory of the people all the memories of the USSR. They remove from the calendar and rename the Soviet holidays and introduce their own, invented. February 23 has already been renamed, now they are trying to push it altogether, offering another "democratic" handicraft.
    6. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 7 May 2020 10: 24 New
      +8
      Quote: Gardamir
      So they rewrite history. Three ha, Yeltsin created the armed forces of Russia!

      And he also granted Russia "independence" ...
      Someday they will understand that it’s impossible to rewrite history, it’s only possible to profuca ....
      What, in fact, did EBN.
    7. iouris
      iouris 7 May 2020 13: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      Yeltsin created the armed forces of Russia!

      ... and the "successor to the USSR" threw (did not abandon!) the military who served in the territories of the union republics.
    8. demo
      demo 7 May 2020 14: 21 New
      +4
      I read the headline and I can’t believe my eyes.
      And here it is!
      A scoundrel and a bastard who was directly involved in the collapse of the country is immortalized as a creator and inspirer.
      Well, come! Get off the lads!
    9. Magog
      Magog 7 May 2020 19: 09 New
      +1
      So they rewrite history.
      "History is written by the winners ... - followers of Yeltsin's hangover. And then ominously:" Don't you dare to rewrite history! "
    10. Graduate student
      Graduate student 8 May 2020 00: 50 New
      11
      Quote: Gardamir
      So they rewrite history. Three ha, Yeltsin created the armed forces of Russia!

      Wait, it soon turns out that ebn was the best leader of our state in its entire history.
  2. Olegater
    Olegater 7 May 2020 07: 17 New
    18
    Did substitution and decommunization get to this site? Then what canceled, Victory Day? Or March 8th? Or Great October?
    Or maybe everything SOVIET will be forbidden and we will live like Ivanes who do not remember their past and kinship. Well, congratulations to you dear forum users. It's not too far.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 7 May 2020 08: 07 New
      +4
      "February 23, 1918 is one of those days in the history of Russia, the importance of which is difficult to overestimate. It was on this day, exactly a hundred years ago, that the invincible and legendary Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army appeared in young Soviet Russia."
      IN. 2018.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 7 May 2020 09: 42 New
        +2
        And before that, we did not have defenders of the fatherland and the Army did not exist in Russia?
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 7 May 2020 10: 09 New
          +2
          In pre-revolutionary Russia, there was a Day of Remembrance of the Russian Army, which was celebrated on September 11 (August 29, old style), and it was established in 1769.
          The Day of the Knights of the Order of St. George was annually celebrated, which was celebrated in the Winter Palace on December 9 (according to the old style - November 26). This holiday is associated with the consecration in 1051 of the church of the Holy Great Martyr George the Victorious, and Saint George himself was considered the most revered saint among the military.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 7 May 2020 10: 25 New
            +4
            So it was necessary to leave the Day of Remembrance of the Russian Army, as a national holiday. The history of the defenders of the Russian land did not begin in 1918.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 7 May 2020 15: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Doccor18
        "February 23, 1918 is one of those days in the history of Russia, the importance of which is difficult to overestimate. It was on this day, exactly a hundred years ago, that the invincible and legendary Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army appeared in young Soviet Russia."
        IN. 2018.





        February 23: what are we celebrating?


        Most residents of the CIS countries celebrate Defender of the Fatherland Day. But do we all know what kind of holiday it is? For what reason did it arise? I think few. Therefore, I want to tell you about the history of this holiday.

        The popular opinion is that February 23, 1918 is the day of the creation of the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army (RKKA). But the decree on the creation of the Red Army was issued on January 28 (or 15 according to the old style) on January 1918. Then, within a month, reception centers were created in the Red Army throughout the country. In St. Petersburg, such a point was created only on February 21. Therefore, the opinion that we are celebrating the day of the creation of the Red Army on February 23 is wrong.

        Let’s see what actually happened on February 23, 1918. Many say that on this day we celebrate the local victory of the Red Army over the Germans near Narva and Pskov. There were no fights at all near Narva that day; they began only on March 3. And, by the way, ended on March 4 with the fact that the Germans took the city.

        Unlike Narva, these days there really were battles near Pskov and the Red Army won, after which it was immediately defeated, that is, on February 24th. But this victory was unremarkable, well, except for an instant defeat. Therefore, there is no reason to celebrate in her honor.

        According to another version, on February 23, there were no battles either near Pskov or near Narva. The myth of these two victories was generated by Stalin.

        But on this day there was an event much more significant than the battle of Pskov, which perhaps was not. During the revolution, the Bolsheviks promised peace as soon as they came to power. Here they come to power, therefore it is necessary to fulfill promises, and there is no one to fight. But it’s not so simple. On February 23, the Germans send an ultimatum, according to which Russia is losing Belarus, Poland, Ukraine, the Baltic states and pledges to dissolve the Red Army and Navy. The Central Committee did not want to accept this ultimatum, but Lenin, threatening to resign, insisted on the adoption of an ultimatum. As a result, February 23 is the day of the surrender of Russia and the dissolution of the Red Army.
        It was strange and controversial to schedule a holiday for that number. But how did it happen? Well, this is as usual in Russia because of the stupid officials. Actually, how things were. An official from the Red Army, Nikolai Podvoisky, proposes to celebrate the day of the creation of the Red Army on January 28 and sends the corresponding document on January 10, 1919. But apparently even then the Russian Post worked the same way as now, and his request comes only on January 23. The date has passed, so the All-Russian Central Executive Committee refuses him. But on January 24, the Presidium of the Moscow City Council still decides to hold the holiday on February 17, combining it with the Day of the Red Order. The Red Day is postponed until next Sunday, February 23, respectively, and the Red Army day is also postponed to the 23rd day without thinking (well, as is usually the case) that happened exactly a year ago.

        Therefore, raising a glass today or congratulating people, know that you congratulate them on the day of Russia's surrender to Germany.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 7 May 2020 22: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: RUSS
          February 23: what are we celebrating?

          Personally, I celebrate the Day of the Soviet Army and Navy, in which I served more than 25 years. He did not serve a day in the Russian army.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 8 May 2020 11: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Piramidon
            Personally, I celebrate the Day of the Soviet Army and Navy, in which I served more than 25 years.

            Do not forget that in addition to the main holiday on February 23, the armed forces had a large number of species and patrimonial holidays on different days - Navy Day, Day of Missile Forces and Artillery, Day of Airborne Forces, etc. Therefore, these holidays have always been celebrated - such were the traditions. At least, the signalmen, who had nothing to do with the communications troops, were not celebrated at all on October 20, but on May 7 they went out in an organized manner to nature - at least I remember it well. In the reconnaissance units, the officers do not consider themselves signalmen, which is why May 7 is a more significant holiday for them than the day of the communications troops.
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 8 May 2020 13: 06 New
              0
              Quote: ccsr
              Do not forget that in addition to the main holiday on February 23, the armed forces had a large number of species and patrimonial holidays on different days

              Thank you for reminding. But even without it we celebrate our professional holidays except for the day of the SA and the Navy (February 23). We always celebrated Aviation Day (August 18), Navy Day (last Sunday of July. (All the same, naval aviation)), and even Chekist Day (December 20. (Our regiment was reconnaissance). Well, also the day of the forester (airfield in a dense forest was located) laughing
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 8 May 2020 13: 25 New
                0
                Quote: Piramidon
                Well, also the day of the forester

                So I’m talking about, because here some unique person suddenly decided that military signalmen are sticking to Radio Day. Although I know that all military signalmen mark him - even in some parts they encourage him to this date.
                Quote: Piramidon
                Chekist Day (December 20. (Our regiment was reconnaissance).

                Actually, military intelligence officers consider November 5th their holiday - however, everyone has their own troubles, and why you chose this day is a matter of your traditions.
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 8 May 2020 13: 56 New
                  0
                  Quote: ccsr
                  Actually, military intelligence officers consider November 5th their holiday

                  This is the post-Soviet remake of the 2000 model. We have not heard of this. I quit the ranks of the Soviet Army back in 1991.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 8 May 2020 14: 32 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Piramidon
                    This is the post-Soviet remake of the 2000 model. We have not heard of this.

                    You are wrong - military intelligence always celebrated this day, it was just that they did not spread about it in Soviet times. By the way, there were the so-called "Ivashutinsky pilots" who had nothing to do with aviation - you probably have not heard of them either.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 7 May 2020 08: 13 New
      +5
      Then what canceled, Victory Day? Or March 8th? Or Great October?
      October has already been canceled. Kovid the Great moved from May 9 to September 3 .. Yes, and the regiment was created to regiment a Victory Day. Look at their symbols, nothing from the winners.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 May 2020 09: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: Gardamir
        Look at their symbols, nothing from the winners.

        Nothing!
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        1. RUSS
          RUSS 7 May 2020 16: 21 New
          -2
          Quote: Stroporez
          on the other, mockery - the Vlasov flag, "tigers", caps ala "Sturmbannführer", priests with censes ...

          The tricolor flag is more than 300 years old, the cap is not like the Wehrmacht, but rather like the military until 1917
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 8 May 2020 00: 13 New
            0
            Quote: RUSS
            The tricolor flag is more than 300 years old, the cap is not like the Wehrmacht, but rather like the military until 1917

            Greetings, Kamrad! It pisses me off myself, the music of the Soviet anthem, the tricolor, the two-headed coat of arms, "peculiar" priests, frescoes with dubious characters .... and all this together cannot go into one head, but it is there and there is nedimon too. One word is obscurantism and Putinism!
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 7 May 2020 20: 27 New
          0
          Quote: Stroporez
          Vlasov flag

          When the tricolor was adopted in Russia, then great-great ... - Vlasov's grandfather was not even a sperm cell yet. For those who are fixated on the "Vlasov flag"
          The national flag in Russia appeared at the turn of the XVII-XVIII centuries, in the era of the emergence of Russia as a powerful state. For the first time, a white-blue-red flag was hoisted on the first Russian warship Eagle, during the reign of the father of Peter I Alexei Mikhailovich.

          Where was Vlasov then?
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 8 May 2020 00: 05 New
            0
            Quote: Piramidon
            When the tricolor was adopted in Russia, then great-great ... - Vlasov's grandfather was not even a sperm cell yet. For those who are fixated on the "Vlasov flag"

            Comrade, offended or something ?! drinks Yes, to hell with him with this flag, then he overtook the flag of Vlasov with his filthy little hands, and how can this flag be left after Putinism ....?
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 8 May 2020 13: 46 New
              0
              Quote: Stroporez
              Comrade, offended or something ?!

              Yes, what insults. They just got your stupid comments related to the fact that the flag, which is more than 300 years old, is associated with the freak who was born in 1901. And if tomorrow some kind of cowboy passes along Broadway with the Soviet flag, will you immediately consider the Soviet flag to be American? Well, just some kind of stupid misunderstanding and an attempt to bind the non-acquisitive.
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 9 May 2020 09: 27 New
                0
                Quote: Piramidon
                They just got your stupid comments related to the fact that the flag, which is more than 300 years old, is associated with the freak who was born in 1901.

                I didn’t want it on May 9, but I have to!
                And you are sick of trying to connect the unconnected!
                Remember forever that the Banner of Victory has nothing to do with Romanovsky, Vlasov, or even less Putin
                He doesn’t have a tricolor !!! Celebrating Victory Day with a tricolor is just the same as the skakuas will celebrate this Holiday with a two-color one.
                Threat. And at the expense of the stupidity of comments, you clearly downplay your merits.
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 9 May 2020 11: 21 New
                  0
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Remember forever that the Banner of Victory has nothing to do with Romanovsky, Vlasov, or even less Putin

                  Do not try to teach me a story that you yourself know in fragments, and to inspire me with what I already know without you, and even in such a commandingly instructive tone. I myself grew up and most of my life I lived and served under the red flag and banner and I know their value. Did I tell you something about the need to celebrate Victory Day under the tricolor? I was just outraged by the fact that you attributed the Russian flag to some Vlasov and nothing more. And you fanned here do not understand that, and almost wrote me down as an enemy of the people.
            2. RUSS
              RUSS 8 May 2020 13: 56 New
              0
              Quote: Stroporez
              Quote: Piramidon
              When the tricolor was adopted in Russia, then great-great ... - Vlasov's grandfather was not even a sperm cell yet. For those who are fixated on the "Vlasov flag"

              Comrade, offended or something ?! drinks Yes, to hell with him with this flag, then he overtook the flag of Vlasov with his filthy little hands, and how can this flag be left after Putinism ....?

              Basically, the Vlasovites fought under the Andreevsky flag, and their sherons were stylized under this flag
          2. ccsr
            ccsr 8 May 2020 12: 01 New
            0
            Quote: Piramidon
            For those who are fixated on the "Vlasov flag"

            Well, the current flag will not be native to those who took the oath under the Red Banner - so do not pedal this topic, the tricolor will never become my flag, and you should not convince all of us, referring to its history.
            1. Piramidon
              Piramidon 8 May 2020 14: 08 New
              0
              Quote: ccsr
              the tricolor will never become my flag, and you should not convince all of us, referring to its history.

              I also served 25 years under the red banner, and these tricolors are also alien to me. But you need to, at least a little, be objective and not distort the story, trying to connect the unconnected.
    3. Serg65
      Serg65 7 May 2020 09: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: Olegater
      maybe all the Soviet forbid and we will live like Ivana who do not remember their past and kinship

      what Then we must celebrate the 407th year of the house of the Romanovs, well, or the Day of St. George! Well, that would not be Ivanes ... wink
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 7 May 2020 09: 13 New
        +7
        Well, we remember the history of the Soviet Union ourselves somewhere, somewhere according to the stories of the fathers. And what can you tell about the Romanovs? At least who was the first Romanov.
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 7 May 2020 10: 02 New
          +3
          Quote: Gardamir
          And what can you tell about the Romanovs?

          Ahhh, I understand ... until October 17th, in this territory there was a primitive communal system !!!
          Quote: Gardamir
          And what can you tell about the Romanovs

          A lot of! For example, the territory that the Bolsheviks hapanuli foolishly became a country thanks to the Ramanovs! wink
          Quote: Gardamir
          who was the first Romanov.

          Mikhail Fedorovich, but what?
          Gardamir, and who drove the October Revolution in St. Petersburg?
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 7 May 2020 10: 08 New
            +1
            Mikhail Fedorovich was by the name of Zakharyin, but the fact that the Zakharyins suddenly made a surname in his name in honor of an ancestor is Fomenkovism.
            Democrats also grabbed a fool, the territory that the Soviet Union enlarged.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 7 May 2020 10: 40 New
              +6
              Quote: Gardamir
              Mikhail Fedorovich was by the name of Zakharyin

              belay And the king is not real !!! laughing
              Quote: Gardamir
              Democrats also grabbed a fool, territory enlarged by the Soviet Union.

              And increased a lot?
      2. Alf
        Alf 7 May 2020 18: 49 New
        +4
        Quote: Serg65
        Then it’s necessary to celebrate the 407th year of the Romanov’s house,

        Still to come. But not very far.
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon 7 May 2020 10: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: Olegater
      Did substitution and decommunization get to this site?

      What does the site have to do with it? Is this the site in the country that manipulates the holidays?
    5. New Year day
      New Year day 7 May 2020 11: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Olegater
      Or maybe everything SOVIET will be forbidden and we will live like Ivanes who do not remember their past and kinship.

      some agree here too, they seem to have sucked well on the "liberals"
  3. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 7 May 2020 07: 19 New
    +7
    Whatever the day is a holiday. Not to get confused in dates
    1. Graduate student
      Graduate student 8 May 2020 00: 52 New
      12
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Whatever the day is a holiday. Not to get confused in dates

      The main thing is not to forget the real holiday dates: February 23, March 8, April 12, April 22, May 1, May 9, November 7, December 21.
  4. kepmor
    kepmor 7 May 2020 07: 21 New
    16
    and I think that why they drunk such a viper ...
    and here it is ... Eltsin, the pro-protector of our army, turns out to be ...
  5. leshiy076
    leshiy076 7 May 2020 07: 24 New
    12
    And what, who considers this day a holiday or an event? Or maybe notes? Here is a publication without a signature, in fact a regular anonymous letter or just spam, which, after being read, is sent to the trash can. In essence, "zapadentsy" they are like unreasonable children. They try to try everything on through the prism of their consciousness, but the trouble is that there are not so many people like them in Russia. And all their attempts are backfiring. Remember what the late M. Zadornov said, because in fact it is.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 May 2020 09: 13 New
      11
      Quote: leshiy076
      But what, who considers this day a holiday or event? Or maybe notes?

      Well, finally, we found out when and who created the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
    2. Graduate student
      Graduate student 8 May 2020 00: 52 New
      11
      Quote: leshiy076
      Who considers this day a holiday or an event? Or maybe notes?

      I have no such acquaintances. But I think in the near future they will try to stick this holiday into the place on February 23.
  6. Amateur
    Amateur 7 May 2020 07: 26 New
    22
    May 7 is Radio Day. Day of workers in all sectors of communications.
    All signalmen - Happy Holiday! good
    And the military do not need to stick to us. drinks
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 7 May 2020 17: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Amateur
      May 7 is Radio Day. Day of workers in all sectors of communications.
      All signalmen - Happy Holiday!
      And the military do not need to stick to us.

      And why are military signalmen worse than civilians? Their number is about 5% of the total number of the armed forces, so all military signalmen celebrate this holiday as their professional one.
      By the way, if someone does not know, then there is only hope for military communications in the event of an exchange of nuclear strikes, because only they will be able to organize at least some kind of government in this situation, because all civilian communication will be covered with a copper basin.
      1. Amateur
        Amateur 7 May 2020 17: 45 New
        0
        And why are military signalmen worse than civilians?

        Day of the military signalman in Russia is celebrated annually on October 20offended you are ours.
        And today is just Radio Day.
        “Military signalman’s day” is a professional holiday of Russian military signalmen: military and civil servants of the communications units in all branches of the Russian forces and in all communications services in all types of the Russian armed forces. As well as a professional holiday directly to the Communications Troops of Russia. The holiday is timed to the day of the formation of special communications troops of Russia - October 20, 1919. Although the communication units in the Russian troops have existed since the second half of the XIX century. Military communications day in Russia is celebrated annually on October 20
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 7 May 2020 17: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: Amateur
          Military communications day in Russia is celebrated annually on October 20, you are offended by us.

          Well, if you don’t know the holidays, then do not confuse the Day of the Signal Troops, and a huge number of military signalmen who have not served a day in the Signal Troops:
          Military communications day is celebrated in Russia annually on October 20. In 2020, the holiday is held for the 15th time. The festivities are attended by servicemen of the communications forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

          Quote: Amateur
          And today is just Radio Day.

          For you - yes, and if you don’t know, for example, what a special radio communications service is and how it appeared, then you should not impose your primitive idea of ​​all military signalmen on people who are better than you versed in military specialties.
          1. Amateur
            Amateur 7 May 2020 18: 03 New
            -2
            then do not impose its primitive an idea of ​​all military signalmen to people who better you versed in military specialties.

            Tovarisch either already noted well, or finally a political instructor.
            It is a pity that the rules of the VO site do not allow explaining to such boors who they are, what they are and where they need to go.
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 7 May 2020 18: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: Amateur
              Tovarisch either already noted well, or finally a political instructor.

              There are a large number of officers in the OSN units who were awarded the badge "Honorary Radio Operator of the USSR", but you are just verbiage and do not know that they had nothing to do with the signal troops, and were not signalmen.
              Quote: Amateur
              It is a pity that the rules of the VO site do not allow explaining to such boors who they are, what they are and where they need to go.

              I am also sorry that different trepachki on VO make up professionals, talking about the army of fables.
  7. Prisoner
    Prisoner 7 May 2020 07: 26 New
    13
    Let them celebrate May 7 in a narrow circle. Our day is February 23. soldier
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 May 2020 09: 14 New
      +5
      Quote: Captive
      Let them celebrate May 7 in a narrow circle. Our day is February 23.

      And for us, as it was today "Radio Day" has remained.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 7 May 2020 11: 33 New
        +3
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And for us, as it was today "Radio Day" has remained.

        Then for Radio Day! good drinks
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 May 2020 12: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: Stroporez
          Then for Radio Day!

          This is us forever! (after work).
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 7 May 2020 12: 08 New
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine
            This is us forever! (after work).

            Of course! laughing
        2. Overlock
          Overlock 7 May 2020 13: 55 New
          +2
          Quote: Stroporez
          Then for Radio Day! drinks good


          good drinks
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 May 2020 07: 27 New
    10
    The sooner we forget EBN and his "instructions", the sooner we will get rid of this nightmare. Still, the Yeltsin Center would be redesigned. Something worthwhile.
    1. Graduate student
      Graduate student 8 May 2020 00: 53 New
      11
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The sooner we forget EBN and his "instructions", the sooner we will get rid of this nightmare

      But only we are not allowed to forget about ebn.
      1. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 8 May 2020 09: 16 New
        +1
        It is impossible to forget in any way, first the trial of Gorbaty and his minions, then of the EBN.
  9. BARKAS
    BARKAS 7 May 2020 07: 27 New
    16
    On May 7, 95th, our unit returned home from Chechnya.
    1. Sergey Medvedev
      Sergey Medvedev 7 May 2020 07: 59 New
      12
      Quote: BARKAS
      On May 7, 95th, our unit returned home from Chechnya.

      On May 7, 2000, our regiment returned home, the last train.
  10. olhon
    olhon 7 May 2020 07: 29 New
    16
    Did not know. Everyone involved, Happy Radio Day!
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 7 May 2020 08: 23 New
      +7
      Quote: olhon
      Did not know. Allх involved, Happy Radio Day!

      good yesWhy involved, everyone who loves, remembers, wants ...
      1. olhon
        olhon 7 May 2020 13: 36 New
        +2
        Well drinks So be it.
  11. bober1982
    bober1982 7 May 2020 07: 33 New
    +7
    It was by this decree dated 07.05.1992/XNUMX/XNUMX that the existence of the notorious CIS army was terminated, albeit on paper, and the creation, even of a clumsy one, of the creation of the Russian Army began.
    All "foreign" comrades, just after 07.05.1992/XNUMX/XNUMX, were politely offered (voluntarily and compulsorily) to disperse to their independent armies.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 7 May 2020 17: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: bober1982
      All "foreign" comrades, just after 07.05.1992/XNUMX/XNUMX, were politely offered (voluntarily and compulsorily) to disperse to their independent armies.

      It wasn’t quite so, because then they offered a choice - either you remain to serve in the Russian army, or get documents and go where you can get settled. As an option, everyone who had more than 20 calendar ones was offered to retire on regular events with a pension in the Russian Federation. A huge number of officers took advantage of this at that time, and probably still some quietly receive both Russian pensions and local, if they also served there. I know one such thing in Tbilisi.
  12. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 7 May 2020 08: 04 New
    +7
    As we celebrated on February 23, so we will celebrate !!! We bring up children and grandchildren on this. For the author, Russia is the legal successor of the USSR. The Russian Federation inherited the army created in the USSR, so no one forced us-Soviet officers, unlike the "fraternal republics" to take the Russian Oath. Yes, and they do not celebrate, even the liber - asta, May 7 as the Day of the creation of the Sun ...
    1. atalef
      atalef 7 May 2020 08: 19 New
      -7
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      , unlike the "fraternal republics" to take the Russian Oath.

      But what's the use of this?
      maybe you (I mean the military personnel of the USSR) did what you swore?
      I swear to conscientiously study military affairs, to take full care of military and national property and until the last breath to be faithful to their people, their Soviet homeland and the Soviet Government.

      I am always ready by order The Soviet Government to come out to defend my Homeland - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and, as a warrior of the Armed Forces, I swear to defend it courageously, skillfully, with dignity and honor, not sparing my blood and life itself to achieve a complete victory over the enemies.

      the same thing with Crimea and former servicemen of the Sun of Ukraine and the same Golden Eagle.
      Swore an oath.
      request
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 7 May 2020 09: 50 New
        10
        Quote: atalef
        Swore an oath.

        what Do you, defectors, say? !!!
        1. atalef
          atalef 7 May 2020 11: 19 New
          -5
          Quote: Serg65
          Quote: atalef
          Swore an oath.

          what Do you, defectors, say? !!!

          I'm not a soldier at all.
          Don't you notice the difference?
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 7 May 2020 11: 19 New
            10
            Well, at least he was a pioneer?
            1. atalef
              atalef 7 May 2020 12: 23 New
              0
              Quote: Serg65
              Well, at least he was a pioneer?

              and even a Komsomol member.
              Although the communist - like Yeltsin, Putin, Shoigu and laurels - did not. wink
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 7 May 2020 12: 45 New
                +8
                Quote: atalef
                and even a Komsomol member.

                I am atalef (Alexander), joining the ranks of the Vladimir Ilyich Lenin All-Union Pioneer Organization, in the face of my comrades I solemnly promise: to love my Motherland passionately.
                Have you kept the oath? bully
                1. hydrox
                  hydrox 7 May 2020 19: 05 New
                  +3
                  What's wrong!?
                  Liberast and the Homeland - concepts incompatible in one person !!!
      2. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 7 May 2020 10: 25 New
        +7
        "I am always ready, by order of the Soviet Government, to defend my Motherland - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and, as a warrior of the Armed Forces, I swear to defend it courageously, skillfully, with dignity and honor, not sparing my blood and life itself to achieve complete victory over enemies "- there was no order, no external aggressors who attacked the USSR, there were traitors inside the country, and the KGB fought with traitors in the USSR (I will remind you if you forgot or don't know) ... So these are questions for them, not to me and my colleagues))) But that's another topic ...
        1. atalef
          atalef 7 May 2020 11: 21 New
          -1
          Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
          there was no order, nor external aggressors who attacked the USSR;

          Of course, personal initiative is punishable, but what about the oath?
          Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
          - there were traitors inside the country, and with traitors in the USSR (I will remind you if you forgot or do not know) - the KGB fought

          my hut is on the edge.
          I do not blame you.
          All of these were.
          And still the same.
          There, the same parts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Crimea.
          Direct violation of the oath.
          And they were transferred to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
        2. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 7 May 2020 11: 31 New
          +5
          and with the traitors in the USSR (I’ll remind you if you forgot or don’t know) - the KGB fought

          You know, I remembered "17 Moments of Spring", an episode on the train, Stirlitz's conversation with the general of the Wehrmacht. The general's words - "We did not burn, we burned the SS." You've just written something like that. That is, the country that was sworn to protect was falling apart, including you, but in the end, we are not to blame, we are in the house, the KGB is to blame ??? Then it turns out that the traitors commanded you, did they give you orders? Nothing gnaws at you? And explain, a country with more than 200 million people who lived "in the happiest and most beautiful country", with an army of 2 million, with millions of KGB and Ministry of Internal Affairs apparatuses, with several million CPSU members "loyal Leninists" - and such a country destroyed a LOT of traitors? Don't you find dissonance in your fabrications?
          One "comrade" here to me the other day wrote in the comments that "the media cheated him" !!! And because of this, the USSR collapsed. This is how you have to be overgrown ... to be "deceived by the media" ??? Considering the fact that "comrade" had a special officer title of the Ministry of Internal Affairs? Or is the media out in the USSR LIE?
          1. Vitaly Tsymbal
            Vitaly Tsymbal 7 May 2020 12: 06 New
            +4
            And we have been defending the USSR since 1990 in Tajikistan, Transcaucasia, in the Baltic states - and the people did not thank us for this, but on the contrary - they called punishers and especially the journalists succeeded in this ... So my secret message is not for me, but what do you at that time ????
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 7 May 2020 12: 29 New
              +7
              I apologize if I offended you with something. About myself, I report - I called for an emergency in 1992. After the army he continued his service and in parallel training.
              And I wrote without showing anyone. He wrote that EVERYONE was to blame for the collapse of the country. The "bunch of traitors" was only a catalyst for the process. And now nod at them, and leave yourself aside as it is not comme il faut. Considering the fact that practically not a single shot was fired in defense of the Union. Not a single officer (of whom there are a lot on the site) brought his subordinates to the defense of the country. And now, in hindsight, everyone is strong and smart.
              1. Overlock
                Overlock 7 May 2020 13: 59 New
                0
                Quote: Okolotochny
                Not a single officer (there are a lot of them on the site) brought his subordinates to the parade ground in defense of the country.

                let me go! Was there an order? Was one person canceled?
                maybe all because .....
                Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
                By the time of the collapse of the USSR, the army ceased to trust Gorbachev and his team
                ?
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 7 May 2020 20: 26 New
                  +4
                  I see, your position is clear. But why now do such people come to shit in “righteous anger” for the collapse of the country? My opinion - sit now and be silent, from such a silent position the country was falling apart. And now these "silent people" trample underfoot, they need leaving ... They would look at themselves.
            2. atalef
              atalef 7 May 2020 12: 30 New
              0
              Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
              And we defended the USSR since 1990 in Tajikistan, Transcaucasia, in the Baltic

              and at home it means not?
              Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
              So myahataskrai - not to me, but what were you doing at that time ????

              I AM ? worked, termination urgent in the 90th.
              I voted in a referendum - for the Soviet Union and sat --- my hut from the edge watching how he was being kicked.
              But I, unlike you, was not a regular military man, and at least I admit that I didn’t care at all.
              adult uncles decide, and we have always been a silent herd.
              1. Vitaly Tsymbal
                Vitaly Tsymbal 7 May 2020 12: 52 New
                +2
                I entered the school from Baku. In January 1990 he took part in the tragic events in Baku. We stood at the bolk-post at the "wolf's gate" - the sailors were all from Baku (Caspian Flotilla) and we were tankmen (out of 4 company officers, 2 were Bakuvians, although we served in another district). So whose houses were we protecting? We did not have a single conflict with the Azerbaijanis, and the opposition screamers, like you now, were explained that we had come to put things in order in our common house and that if you don’t like the government, then change it peacefully, and not with arms in hand and robberies ...
                And you didn’t care because the “blood” didn’t touch your Soviet home, and it’s quite possible that you believed more in the “voices” from America, and not your reason ... and admission of guilt does not absolve you from responsibility. And I had "behind my back Afghan" and an understanding of what a civil war is. By the time the USSR collapsed, the army stopped trusting Gorbachev and his team, and Yeltsin-Putin simply destroyed what was in the Soviet army by "democratic methods", on the ruins of which, only after 2008, they began to create something, albeit according to "democratic patterns". ... But that's my personal opinion.
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 7 May 2020 20: 28 New
                  +5
                  Yeltsin-Putin collapsed. So why were you silent, and now crying? When the "collapsed" you did not see this? Or have you seen? And if you saw your actions? Shouting on the Internet?
                  1. Vitaly Tsymbal
                    Vitaly Tsymbal 7 May 2020 21: 00 New
                    +1
                    They shouted, and one of the Defense Ministers of the EBN in plain text sent three letters, and then turned around and left the army, Rokhlin "shouted", and Kvachkov acted .... so what ??? The people did not need the army, the people were told that we are now friends to the whole world, and the country does not need a ballast))) And then those in power began to develop the BB, and not the army. Well, about Putin - it was not he who "put" the Defense Ministry of Serdyukov and K ... And until 2008, many military pensioners had fewer civilian pensions and the army, under Putin's supervision, was falling apart by reducing military schools and switching to castrated brigades instead of divisions? That's when the "fried rooster" pecked in 2008, the instinct of self-preservation intensified in the authorities, they even remembered the political officers))) And the orientation towards contract soldiers who came to the army for a salary, and not to fulfill their sacred duty to the Motherland, as conscripts. But now the army is changing and changing for the better, but only in technical terms ...
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 7 May 2020 23: 23 New
                      +1
                      Leave Kvachkov’s grandfather alone, on his masons .... look on the internet.
                      1. ccsr
                        ccsr 8 May 2020 12: 05 New
                        0
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        Leave Kvachkov’s grandfather alone, on his masons .... look on the internet.

                        I don’t know why this worthy officer didn’t please you, but he should sometimes listen to what he says and draw conclusions if the brains of modern slander against him are not completely exhausted.
                      2. Serg65
                        Serg65 8 May 2020 13: 49 New
                        +3
                        Quote: ccsr
                        I don’t know why this worthy officer didn’t please you.

                        Kvachkov is a professional saboteur, but his attempt on Chubais leads many to unhealthy thoughts ... and what was it ????
                      3. ccsr
                        ccsr 8 May 2020 14: 27 New
                        0
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Kvachkov is a professional saboteur, but his attempt on Chubais leads many to unhealthy thoughts ... and what was it ????

                        It was a provocation, Kvachkov had nothing to do with it. It was similar after the murder of Kholodov, when they wanted to attribute GRU colonel Kuznetsov to participation in a military conspiracy against Yeltsin.
                2. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 7 May 2020 23: 24 New
                  +3
                  So retirement until 2008? And now? Vitaly, you have only slogans and emotions.
                  1. Vitaly Tsymbal
                    Vitaly Tsymbal 8 May 2020 08: 34 New
                    +1
                    And now? And now, being retired, I am engaged in military-patriotic work with children, youth, and veterans. That is, due to my abilities, I try to preserve the memory of both the Soviet army and those who served in it in different years ... And I tell you that the strength of the Soviet army was not in modern technologies, but in the strength of the spirit of the Soviet soldier, adding that the Russian - Soviet - Russian soldier defended not the tsars-general secretaries-presidents, their families, their land and their freedom. And the youth went to the army not to earn money, but to fulfill their military duty ... You can consider this a slogan - in the virtual world in which we now communicate with you, it looks like this, and when you come to a class, or a museum, or a military the part when you look people in the eyes, when you don't have the "divides" key at hand - these words no longer seem like a slogan))). By the way, I want to remind you))) the real world is the world of emotions !!!!
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 7 May 2020 20: 31 New
            +4
            Alexander, it’s useless to explain to them. How did a country with millions of army, organs, party collapse without a single shot? What kind of country was this that a bunch of traitors collapsed? What kind of support did the people have for power, that the people allowed it? And then they come on a stupor. There are no slogans, but you need to think about brains. But they cannot think, the party thought for them.
            1. Vitaly Tsymbal
              Vitaly Tsymbal 7 May 2020 21: 05 New
              +2
              Alexey, as a citizen of Israel, Alexander fully supports you, but as a soldier of the Soviet army, I suppose - it is unlikely)))) You were not in the SA, so judge her by the information of the "Committee of Soldiers' Mothers")))
  • nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 7 May 2020 08: 08 New
    +5
    interesting drunk, even drank to the armed forces, or before that was a buzz?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 May 2020 09: 18 New
      +2
      Quote: nov_tech.vrn
      interesting drunk, even drank to the armed forces, or before that was a buzz?

      And before, and during that, and after that more than one hundred times
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 7 May 2020 14: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And before, and during that, and after that more than one hundred times


        100 grams in the morning and the day is free drinks
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 7 May 2020 11: 00 New
      +3
      Quote: nov_tech.vrn
      interesting drunk, even drank to the armed forces, or before that was a buzz?

      But was he sober?
    3. Graduate student
      Graduate student 8 May 2020 00: 53 New
      12
      Quote: nov_tech.vrn
      interesting drunk, even drank to the armed forces, or before that was a buzz?

      In my opinion, he never dried up, he always noted something.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 7 May 2020 08: 21 New
    +1
    On May 7, 1992, the President of the Russian Federation signed a decree on measures to create both the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Ministry of Defense.
    fool fool request
  • O. Bender
    O. Bender 7 May 2020 08: 26 New
    +9
    I heard about this holiday for the first time! February 23rd completely replaced it. De-deserization in action. Quick, however, like deletion of a deuce in a diary, they won’t come out, you won’t have time for the cascade!
    1. Graduate student
      Graduate student 8 May 2020 00: 54 New
      11
      Quote: O. Bender
      On February 23, they completely replaced it.

      Not yet, but already starting.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 7 May 2020 09: 59 New
    +3
    a new broom sweeps over a new one ... the main thing is that the sun is in Russia! ...
  • New Year day
    New Year day 7 May 2020 10: 27 New
    +3
    So February 23, in the furnace ?! Then you must completely abandon the victories of the Red / Soviet Army and follow the trend of the Russian madhouse. How do fellow Soviet officers, fans of Putin, continue to pretend that we don’t understand anything? laughing
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 7 May 2020 10: 45 New
      -1
      Quote: Silvestr
      How do fellow Soviet officers, fans of Putin, continue to pretend that we don’t understand anything?

      Fine, doctor, fine..shkolyarov of course takes the soul, but fine! Yes, by the way, why didn’t Crimea remain in the 90s to defend Crimea, but draped into the aggressor country?
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 7 May 2020 10: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: Serg65
        Yes, by the way, in the 90s, Crimea didn’t remain to defend,

        where does such knowledge come from? Were you nearby?
        Quote: Serg65
        and drapanuli in the aggressor country?

        is this about whom?
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 7 May 2020 11: 00 New
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          where does such knowledge come from? Were you nearby?

          Yes, I saw such gorlopanov in the Crimea, in those days in droves!
          Quote: Silvestr
          is this about whom?

          About that country that you constantly smear with poop with great pleasure?
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 7 May 2020 11: 19 New
            +3
            Quote: Serg65
            Yes, I saw such gorlopanov in the Crimea, in those days in droves!

            there were 90 thousand such gorlopans in the Crimea in the 30s — reserve officers, retirees. You are undoubtedly the wisest and most decent of them. laughing
            Quote: Serg65
            About that country that you constantly smear with poop with great pleasure?

            You can be answered with the words of wise people


            1. Serg65
              Serg65 7 May 2020 11: 24 New
              +1
              Quote: Silvestr
              You are undoubtedly the wisest and most decent of them.

              laughing Of course, he served faithfully with a sickle and a hammer right up to the 96th year!
              Quote: Silvestr
              You can be answered with the words of wise people

              Oh, I liked the words of Lenin especially ... while in Switzerland I ate coffee with croissants so beautifully, but when I sat down in the Kremlin I forgot everything at once ...
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 7 May 2020 11: 27 New
                +3
                Quote: Serg65
                but as he sat in the Kremlin, he immediately forgot everything ...

                so continue about the Kremlin followers or the gut is thin?

                well, continue your thought ...
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 7 May 2020 11: 36 New
                  +4
                  laughing Sylvester, all the rulers promise golden mountains and jelly banks, but life makes its own adjustments! Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev all fulfilled what they promised? And I do not reproach them for this!
                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day 7 May 2020 12: 00 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Serg65
                    Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev all fulfilled what they promised?

                    listen! Well do not tragedy! Under Brezhnev, you received an education, raised children, went to resorts. But there were problems. Global was not bad: there was nothing on the shelves, but everyone had money and no one was starving. Now: there is everything on the shelves, but with money - not everything is so rosy.
                    From the point of view of the layman, "khataskraynik" now all hurt! And if you look around?
                    Take a hot topic - coronavirus. Recent data:
                    Italy: 214 thousand people fell ill - 152 doctors died.
                    Russia: 166 thousand fell ill - 113 doctors died.

                    Do not want to make a proportion? What is the conclusion? The conclusion is simple - more doctors die for every sick person than in Italy. And this despite the fact that I did not find my 2 acquaintances in the lists of the dead.
                    1. Serg65
                      Serg65 7 May 2020 12: 27 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      Well do not tragedy!

                      And I don’t do tragedy,
                      Quote: Serg65
                      And I do not reproach them for this!

                      Because I perfectly imagine the current situation.
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      Under Brezhnev, you received an education, raised children, went to resorts.

                      Well, now my eldest got an education, raises children and goes to resorts ..
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      everyone had money and no one died of hunger

                      Because the Soviet man knew where and to whom to approach so that with empty store shelves his refrigerator was not empty. and since the time (sorry for the tautology) of the famine, not so many have passed, people have not forgotten the science of surviving.
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      Russia: 166 thousand fell ill - 113 doctors died.
                      What is the conclusion?

                      The conclusion is simple ... carelessness and neglect of security measures!
                      1. New Year day
                        New Year day 7 May 2020 12: 51 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Serg65
                        The conclusion is simple ... carelessness and neglect of security measures!

                        not bad hi
                        How to deal with this:
                        1. SanPin 2.1.3.2630-10
                        2. Art. 221 of the Labor Code of the Russian Federation
                        3. p. 3. Art. 37 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation
                        " the employer is obliged to provide employees with protective equipment if the personnel work in harmful or dangerous conditions and everyone has the right to work in conditions that meet safety and hygiene requirements"?
                        1.In Russia, a shortage of protective medical suits has formed. - Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov. TASS.
                        2. Peskov advised doctors to complain for lack of PPE in the Ministry of Health, not the media
                        3. Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin recognized lack of disposable protective suits in the capital’s hospitals.
                        4. The medical staff of the Lyubertsy regional hospital in the Moscow region filed a complaint with the FSB of Russia in connection with the massive infection with coronavirus. According to doctors, the blame for the incident lies with the leadership of the medical institution,
                        and this can be continued further ...
                        Take masks, for example.
                        What is their need? - No one knows.
                        We consider: excluding old people and children, 85% of adult Russians today are self-insulating, that is, the rest (about 16,5 million people) go to work. The mask needs to be changed every 2-3 hours.
                        Given that isolated citizens also need a mask a couple of times a week to go to the store or pharmacy, the general need is more 50 млн medical masks. That is affordable 13 million masks cover hardly 26% of daily needs.
                        Note: the supply of masks in Russia is 13 million. per day: about 8,5 million are made in the country, 4–4,5 million are imported from China, - the Ministry of Industry and Trade.
                        And there are also respirators, etc., etc.
                      2. Serg65
                        Serg65 7 May 2020 13: 08 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        How to deal with this:

                        With this? And with that the question to the head physician of the hospital! Is he the head physician or canine horseradish? Yes, even steal, at least jump out of the skin and provide staff! When not in vain of the 90s mentioned, my sailors were starving, yes, I sent them to steal from the nearby fields, yes, I was responsible for it .. but not one young man entrusted to me did not starve to death and I did not bring a coffin to his mother !!!!
                      3. New Year day
                        New Year day 7 May 2020 13: 23 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Serg65
                        And with that the question to the head physician of the hospital!

                        made laugh!
                      4. Serg65
                        Serg65 7 May 2020 13: 33 New
                        0
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        made laugh!

                        Well, yes, the head doctor is just one fiction! And to raise his ass, during the day to find those who can quickly sew masks and coveralls ... well, this is not his problem, he doesn’t get paid for it .... and yes, it's funny! Well, in this case I’m nostalgic about the Soviet era .... the head doctor would be replaced the next day and try on bracelets in Butyrka ...
                      5. New Year day
                        New Year day 7 May 2020 13: 40 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Serg65
                        And raise your ass, during the day to find those who can quickly sew masks and coveralls ..

                        not suitable! This is SPECIAL fabric! A gauze bandage passes about 50%, from a special fabric - only 6-7%. But after 2-3 hours, everything is 100%.
                        Quote: Serg65
                        chief doctor

                        such bulk purchases are possible with mass supply. But there are no offers. In the same money. The cost of a mask to avirus is about 1 ruble; today Sobyanin is already selling at 30 rubles.
                        A system has been created whose main task is pleasant reports and irresponsibility request
                      6. Serg65
                        Serg65 7 May 2020 13: 48 New
                        0
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        A system has been created whose main task is pleasant reports and irresponsibility

                        A person must be first in all cases!
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        But there are no offers.

                        There is a sewing small business, there is wholesale of the required fabric, there is money in the hospital account, there is no responsibility and desire!
                        A heavy state machine until it takes some time, there is no time, but there are your subordinates for whom YOU are responsible!
                      7. New Year day
                        New Year day 7 May 2020 15: 29 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Serg65
                        A person must be first in all cases!

                        I AGREE to all 100! hi
                        That's just people we are different request
                        Quote: Serg65
                        There is a sewing small business, there is wholesale of the required fabric, there is money in the hospital account, there is no responsibility and desire!

                        To make masks, you need to go through Roszdravnadzor, Rospotrebnadzor, Rosakkreditatsiya, conduct mandatory testing of their products and much more. How much time will it take?
                        Well, if you have the punching capabilities of an uncle like Sechin, then you can quickly get by.
                        And the masks are needed yesterday. Even the Ministry of Industry and Trade admitted: out of 13 million masks per day, only 8,5 million are made in the country! The remaining 4–4,5 million masks are imported from China.
                        Where can the small sewing business compete with the Ministry of Industry and Trade! And the chief doctors will still not be able to buy such an amount of masks on Aliexpress, there is no such money, budgetary state institutions do not have the right to independent purchases abroad.
                      8. Alf
                        Alf 7 May 2020 18: 58 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Serg65
                        Gosmashina heavy until it takes time, there is no time,

                        But here is the time to send masks to Italy and the United States.
        2. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 7 May 2020 12: 36 New
          +4
          USSR, Novocherkassk, 1962, 26 people were killed at the demonstration, 87 were injured. One-time, in 1 hour.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 7 May 2020 12: 53 New
            +2
            Quote: Okolotochny
            26 people were killed at the demonstration, 87 were injured.

            what This is uncountable!
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 7 May 2020 23: 31 New
            +4
            Soryan, purely in Lenin's style, I see here, I do not see here.
        3. ccsr
          ccsr 8 May 2020 12: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Okolotochny
          USSR, Novocherkassk, 1962, 26 people were killed at the demonstration, 87 were injured. One-time, in 1 hour.

          26 people killed on the background of massacre on a national basis during the collapse of the USSR do not want to compare? Or two wars in Chechnya, for example? Then you might wonder why, on this single occasion, the various scum of perestroika times so loved to speculate, headed by Korotich and other rubbish.
        4. Serg65
          Serg65 8 May 2020 13: 50 New
          +3
          Quote: ccsr
          26 people killed on the background of massacre on a national basis during the collapse of the USSR do not want to compare?

          It’s not comme il faut to compare the hunger riot and the planned KGB actions, don’t you?
    2. aglet
      aglet 7 May 2020 15: 20 New
      -1
      "Italy: 214 thousand people fell ill; 152 doctors died.
      Russia: 166 thousand fell ill - 113 doctors died.
      Do you want to make a proportion? What is the conclusion? The conclusion is simple - for each sick person, more doctors die in our country than in Italy. "
      maybe our doctors are older, and this is a natural process? or does it indicate the qualifications of our doctors, who cannot even protect themselves? "The medical staff of the Lyubertsy regional hospital in the Moscow region made statements in the FSB of Russia in connection with the massive infection with coronavirus ". why not in the sport lotto, they would definitely help
  • Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 7 May 2020 11: 33 New
    +1
    The country of his "vegetation".
  • bober1982
    bober1982 7 May 2020 10: 49 New
    +5
    Quote: Silvestr
    So February 23, in the furnace ?!

    Dear Sylvester, no one forces anyone to celebrate this Decree, they do not celebrate it, for the reason that it is not a holiday, this is just our story.
    Why heat up from scratch.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 7 May 2020 10: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: bober1982
      Why heat up from scratch.

      Why Glow? It's funny and sad to watch: the traditions of the Soviet army are proclaimed, and the name "Red Banner" was removed from the names of the fleets, the parade on Red Square was preserved, and the Mausoleum was sheathed with plywood, cursed fascism, and the memorial plaque to Mannerheim was hung up and so on, for little things. It turns out that we are standing there.
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 7 May 2020 11: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: bober1982
      Why heat up from scratch.

      This work!
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 7 May 2020 14: 18 New
    -1
    Quote: Silvestr
    So February 23, in the furnace ?!

    History cannot be thrown into the furnace. We didn’t forget the campaigns of princes Igor, Vsevolod, Vladimir, we didn’t forget Alexander Nevsky, we didn’t forget the battle of Kalka and the capture of Kazan, and we won’t forget it on February 23.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 7 May 2020 15: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      We have not forgotten ...

      we are those who knew the USSR, the history of the country. Time is inexorable and we will leave, but here comes the generation of EG, the consumer society. And then everything will be according to theirs. An example is Ukraine. The Soviet are leaving, and the nationalists, Bandera, have come to replace
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 May 2020 15: 45 New
        0
        Quote: Silvestr
        An example is Ukraine. The Soviet are leaving, and the nationalists, Bandera, have come to replace

        It is not regrettable, but a fact.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 7 May 2020 12: 53 New
    +4
    Quote: bober1982
    It was by this decree dated 07.05.1992/XNUMX/XNUMX that the existence of the notorious CIS army was terminated, albeit on paper, and the creation, even of a clumsy one, of the creation of the Russian Army began.
    All "foreign" comrades, just after 07.05.1992/XNUMX/XNUMX, were politely offered (voluntarily and compulsorily) to disperse to their independent armies.

    Exactly. Who does not understand, then about six months there was a dual power, there were the CIS Armed Forces (such as the successor to the USSR Armed Forces), and the national armed forces of Russia (such as those included in the CIS Armed Forces). Shaposhnikov and Grachev led (like the winners of the Emergency Committee, together with Yeltsin). Former leaders of the USSR Armed Forces, Yazov and Varennikov, were then held captive by the Democrats, who squealed and demanded that prosecutors charge them with treason. The prosecutors, to the point and backward, and diagonally read the article of the Criminal Code - and nothing!
    At the same time, by inertia, money was directed to the maintenance of units (everywhere, except, probably, the Baltic States), equipment was sent for repairs to neighboring countries, even officers were transferred. So for good, I still have 30 kW diesel electric generators sent for overhaul to Ukraine, and Grady has not returned to our LenVo either from Ukraine or from the Baltic states ...
    The logisticians were tormented by extracting meat and flour in neighboring regions, and then faced with the fact that by order of the new democratic heads of the regions (I don’t remember what they were called then) a ban was placed on the export of regions (actually collided on the border of the Arkhangelsk and Vologda regions) . Sovereigns, however, are who for what ...
    Along the way, there is a massive withdrawal of troops anywhere from the European groups of troops, echelons with military equipment already disbanded and completely disbanded (without any liquidation commissions there), not sent to anyone, are hanging around the country, so they even had to fight off the echelon in Gryazovets, which the VOSovtsy tried to send to Arkhangelsk with the words: "Since booths with antennas - then this is probably for you!"
    Money support is godlessly delayed and depreciated by the time of issuance two or three times (behind - "Pavlovsky" exchange of money, ahead - "Chernomyrdinsky" in 93).
    Azerbaijan and Armenia share the divisions and weapons of the former 7th Army, along the way accusing Russia of interference, in Tajikistan they are already in full conflict, ahead is a massacre and attempts to take away heavy weapons from the 201st Motorized Rifle Division and demolish border guards from the Afghan border. There is a war in Transnistria, and in Abkhazia and South Ossetia too. Fighters called up back in the days of the USSR are running like cockroaches, those who are in new countries to themselves - do not catch! The rest, when caught, complain that they were "beaten and tortured", they are taken under the wing of the military prosecutor's office and the committee of soldiers' mothers, and assigned to the normal unit. After that, most of them, having eaten a little, steal flask overcoats, boots from normal fighters and again run away to nowhere (Then, a few years later, they appear on their own or with their mother demanding to issue them a new military ID, because without it many things are difficult or impossible) ...
    All this time, two defense ministers (Grachev and Shaposhnikov) regularly prepare and direct down orders, directives and other guidance documents. Common cipher and key systems for the ZAS continue to operate (though exactly as long as it has reliably become known that the Ukrainian comrades leaked them to the Americans - a fierce compromise and an urgent replacement within a day!)
    And now, finally, this horror is endlessly over: Grachev prepares the aforementioned order for Yeltsin, and sends him to units on the territory of Russia, as well as some others (OA and warehouses in Transnistria, 201MD in Tajikistan): "Chief, I am! Execute my orders! ".
    This was, of course, not the creation of the Russian Armed Forces, it was the clarity that had been lacking for so long. If only half a year of such a brothel would have been, it would have been necessary to create anew the Armed Forces, so I would call this point an induction of clarity, not a "creation."
    Further, even before the summer of 93, the money was early Russian, we distributed it to the countries of Central Asia and other former republics (which, together with the "Chechen advice notes", accelerated our inflation by thousands of percent).
    Shaposhnikov declared his sinecure (CIS Joint Armed Forces Headquarters) unnecessary, in my opinion, in 94. A strange act, he could continue to be the "Minister of Defense of the CIS" with the appropriate salary and support, but here, probably, conscience ... (THERE will be credited to him)
    Here I tried to describe this "Date" through the eyes of an eyewitness, from what I personally know, or in which I personally participated.
    I do not pretend, others may have seen it all differently, the "saints of the 90s" after all.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 7 May 2020 14: 23 New
      0
      Wow, there it was, I didn’t know, thanks for the information. But still, for me, the holiday is only February 23rd.
  • cniza
    cniza 7 May 2020 12: 54 New
    +5
    Military Review congratulates the Armed Forces on the Day of the formation of the army and navy of the Russian Federation.


    This is a very "young" date, and before that we did not have V.S. , including the USSR?
  • NordUral
    NordUral 7 May 2020 14: 19 New
    0
    When a question is raised in our country about a specific day for the creation of the Armed Forces of the country, the majority will answer that this day is February 23rd. And the answer will be justified: that is why February 23 is Defender of the Fatherland Day.

    Of course, May 7th for these! After all, February 23 is a holiday of the Soviet Army, which these successfully destroyed.
    1. Walrus fang
      Walrus fang 8 May 2020 13: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: NordUral
      Of course, May 7th for these! After all, February 23 is a holiday of the Soviet Army, which these successfully destroyed.

      And they began precisely with the Army .. Remember the wave in the media of the Army and hazing and punishers, etc. (in the 80s). And then they took power and successfully ruined everything and the Sabbath began on the bones of the USSR and now it continues, not everyone has been plundered ..
      Now their goal is to completely ruin Russia .. They are rocking the country and very active.
  • Fishery
    Fishery 7 May 2020 14: 32 New
    +1
    hmm) why the ladies in the photo have boots of different models .....)
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 7 May 2020 18: 47 New
      +1
      And why the heels of military women?
    2. Alf
      Alf 7 May 2020 19: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Tonya
      hmm) why the ladies in the photo have boots of different models .....)

      What happened was given out ...
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 8 May 2020 16: 57 New
    +2
    And let's leave February 23 alone ?! In Ukraine, by the way, this also started. As an ex-citizen I am reporting to you.
    Stop moving the holidays back and forth in the end already.
    Leave the holy alone already ...
    It will not lead to anything good.
    And the ladies in the photo are just fairies! ..