The oil war: who hung the medal on his chest


For the first time since April 14, the price of Brent crude oil rose to almost $ 32 per barrel, continuing the growth that was outlined 2-3 days ago. Currently, the oil of the mentioned brand is trading in the range of 31,5-32 dollars per barrel.


If oil in the near future does not return to falling and prolonged “vegetation” at below $ 30 per barrel, then this can only mean one thing: in the modern world, such low prices are not beneficial to almost anyone. And if the usual rhetoric is that one of the major players is betting against another major player (the United States against Russia, then Russia against American shale, then Russia against Saudi Arabia, then vice versa, then Russia together with Saudi Arabia against shale industries of the USA), now we can state the following: countries engaged in oil production, in any case, cannot try to do everything for a long time to keep prices low.

Perhaps someone would like this, but there are several nuances: firstly, it will strike a blow at its own economy, and secondly, it will lead to an increase in unemployment in the oil sector (again inside a country that could hypothetically start a game against a competitor), thirdly, it can give advantages to other competitors not related to oil production.

As an example, we can consider one of the previously made assumptions. It consisted in the fact that the decline in oil prices is "typical US machinations against Russia associated with additional attempts to exert economic pressure for political purposes." Such a theory is hardly consistent for the simple reason that extremely low oil prices will give odds to another US geopolitical rival - China. And while in Russia, some of the elites of the American elites are perceived as “flesh from the flesh” (they themselves gave birth and nurtured in their time), then Washington still has ideological problems with Beijing.

Communist China, which has already bypassed the US in terms of economy, is a blow below the belt for Washington. And if you also give odds to China in the form of cheap oil, then the blow will be double. And now, someone, and China, could become the one who considered himself the winner in the oil war by hanging the medal "For Victory" on his chest. But now Beijing has stumbled on Washington’s allegations of concealing "viral" data, moreover, Washington has begun to look for extra-Chinese sites for its large production facilities. So with a victory, and China does not work.

Has Russia (or anyone else) dealt a blow to the American shale industry? Given that all this история With the collapse of oil prices, it manifested itself against the backdrop of an informational flurry about problems with the coronavirus; for the American shale, the situation has not yet become a special problem. The fact is that the President of the United States authorized colossal injections into the American economy, estimated at $ 2 trillion only in the first stage. The printing press is working to its fullest, something is not going to turn into a trash dollar. Therefore, something “falls out” of these freshly printed gray-green rectangles to companies engaged in the production of shale hydrocarbons. And if oil reaches a mark above $ 40 per barrel, then the shales themselves will again “float out” closer to their previous market positions.

Does Saudi Arabia get the edge? Theoretically, yes. Against the backdrop of extremely low prices, she was able to acquire the assets of several foreign companies. However, at the same time, she lost tens of billions of dollars in sales of “black gold” for nothing. Did you get a plus? So far they cannot even say this in Saudi Arabia itself. And if so, then success for Riyadh is extremely doubtful.

In such a situation, the oil war, which has been talked about and discussed so much, has not revealed a winner. "Oil troops" are pretty battered, and no one dared to hang medals for victory on their chests yet. The situation is not the same.
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  1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 14: 28 New
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    There, the Saudis rode — they have a war and their wallet is cracking, Russia did not “strike”. Here, the coronavirus did more business - the enterprises got up, the transportation fell and the toweling heads with the Americans, plus they wanted to raise money where they no longer go up.
    1. iouris 6 May 2020 14: 31 New
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      Quote: Gray Brother
      Here the coronavirus has done more business

      The enterprises did not “stand up”, but were stopped. Coronavirus is a mystery wrapped in mystery. Not everyone who wants to solve it will reach the middle ...
      1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 14: 31 New
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        Quote: iouris
        The enterprises did not “stand up”, but were stopped.

        Not the difference.
        1. iouris 6 May 2020 14: 39 New
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          You need to get to the bottom of the matter, only then the "difference" will be visible. War is not a spontaneous phenomenon, it is happening according to plan. The war begins with the goal of defeating the enemy, forcing him to fulfill the difficult conditions that will be imposed.
          Who started, who is his opponent, what is the image of victory, where am I? Here is a short list of questions for which there are no answers.
          1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 14: 42 New
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            Quote: iouris
            Who started, who is his opponent, what is the image of victory, where am I?

            Nature began, the adversary is a man, the image of victory is the restoration of balance in terms of the number of populations, you are most likely at home.
          2. sniperino 13 May 2020 23: 56 New
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            Quote: iouris
            You need to get to the bottom of it, only then will the "difference" be visible
            Well, you immediately got to the bottom ...
        2. Lexus 6 May 2020 14: 41 New
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          The oil war: who hung the medal on his chest

          Definitely for the award "For tracking the processes of devastation of the American oil bubble and the release of shale gases" will present the "most worthy."
      2. knn54 6 May 2020 14: 47 New
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        And who admits this ...
        EXACTLY (or maybe won) did not lose the IMF and Co.
      3. CSKA 6 May 2020 16: 08 New
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        Quote: iouris
        Coronavirus is a mystery wrapped in mystery

        And what is the mystery?
        1. sniperino 14 May 2020 00: 04 New
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          Quote: CSKA
          Quote: iouris
          Coronavirus is a mystery wrapped in mystery
          And what is the mystery?
          It is wrapped in secret secretly from everyone, and abides in it. What is not clear here ...
      4. Maz
        Maz 6 May 2020 16: 57 New
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        And what was the author trying to say about? Boiled water and all. Strawberry Award.
        1. Nyrobsky 6 May 2020 18: 46 New
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          Quote: Maz
          And what was the author trying to say about? Boiled water and all. Strawberry Award.

          He probably didn’t finish. In addition to all the world's oil producers, “speculators” got into the “promot”, who in advance were trading in volumes of oil not yet produced that were in the bowels of the earth, and essentially chopped real cabbage from the air.
          1. sniperino 14 May 2020 00: 18 New
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            Quote: Nyrobsky
            In addition to all world oil producers, stock speculators have got into the "prom"
            Small ones got in, and large ones, which are also called the "invisible hand of the market," could also be welded.
            1. Nyrobsky 14 May 2020 12: 00 New
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              Quote: sniperino
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              In addition to all world oil producers, stock speculators have got into the "prom"
              Small ones got in, and large ones, which are also called the "invisible hand of the market," could also be welded.

              I guess, yes. Large bought up bankrupt small ones, along with equipment and deposits, squeezing them out of the market.
    2. Ross xnumx 6 May 2020 14: 31 New
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      The oil war: who hung the medal on his chest

      On the chest or somewhere else; a medal or certificate of honor of the Washington Regional Committee, is not known. And the fact that the population of the country will drag the oil pipe clamp is undeniable.
      1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 14: 33 New
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        And the fact that the population of the country will drag the oil pipe clamp is undeniable.

        How - outline.
        1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 14: 39 New
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          Minus can put every stupid person. I would prefer the text.
          1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 18: 40 New
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            Quote: Gray Brother
            Minus can put every stupid person. I would prefer the text.

            You can collect statistics on Pinocchio.
        2. Ross xnumx 6 May 2020 14: 43 New
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          Quote: Gray Brother
          How - outline.

          The formation of a gradual increase in gas prices ...
          Oil painting: at the actual cost of gasoline of 14-17 rubles at gas stations it was sold at 40 and above. I suppose this difference went to ... (I’ll select the word now ...)
          In a country that produces and refines oil, the entire economy is skidding because of expensive fuel for domestic consumption. Even now, when oil is half the price, fuel prices in Russia are on their own.
          If private owners, who cannot be ordered by either the guarantor or Novak (tea is not Saudi Arabia or Iran), will receive losses on domestic consumers ... request
          What am I telling you? This happens after 1993 year after year. You can look at materials and statistics on oil prices on world markets and on gasoline in Russia.
          hi
          1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 14: 48 New
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            Quote: ROSS 42
            Oil painting: at the actual cost of gasoline of 14-17 rubles at gas stations it was sold at 40 and above. I suppose this difference went to ... (I’ll select the word now ...)

            Pensions, subsidies to unprofitable regions, medicine, education, defense, science - a lot has gone
            65 percent of the cost is taxes. You bring what cost I did not understand.
            1. Ross xnumx 6 May 2020 15: 08 New
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              Quote: Gray Brother
              65 percent of the cost is taxes.

              You do not confuse "God's gift" and fried eggs. I don’t know from such a “mind” 55-57%:
              Thus, it was possible to find out that the cost of raw materials by 55–57% consists of various taxes and fees that the company pays to the state.

              But the fact that the state spends this money on pensions, medicine, science and education is a big question ... In addition, I even know why they raised the retirement age. So that you do not spend money on retirement.
              About the cost. This is the cost of gasoline at the outlet of the distillation column when the field and oil refineries are owned by the state ... Do we have Rosneft, like Gazprom, a public property?
              Look and look for yourself, somewhere there are calculations that the cost of gasoline is just ridiculous ... So people who know the process say. I look for a lack of time.
              1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 15: 10 New
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                Quote: ROSS 42
                But the fact that the state spends this money on pensions, medicine, science and education is a big question ... Except

                Oh my God laughing
              2. Oyo Sarkazmi 7 May 2020 21: 07 New
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                Quote: ROSS 42
                You do not confuse "God's gift" and fried eggs. I don’t know from any such "mind" 55-57%

                And you do not confuse taxes with cost. Oil in the price of gasoline - 14%. In addition to 65% of excise taxes, the price includes the wholesalers' margins and retail margins (which seems to be only 0,78% for salaries and gas station equipment). So at a cost of gasoline of 14 rubles, gasoline should cost 100.
            2. opus 6 May 2020 20: 41 New
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              Quote: Gray Brother
              Pensions, subsidies to unprofitable regions, medicine, education, defense, science - a lot has gone

              pensions should be from contributions of the FIU. yet 28% is not enough
              unprofitable regions should not be, if there is: to drive into the neck the head of the region and the minister of regional development, and preferably all ministers and ministers: Golikova and Nabiulina in the first place. Popov, head of the Federal Service for Supervision of Consumer Rights Protection and Human Welfare, also: with ridiculous cowards on Red Square defense and other mantras: fuel is the blood of the economy. it’s expensive: you won’t get an advantage in either agriculture or industry
              Quote: Gray Brother
              You bring what cost I did not understand.

              American. there is a liter already 28 rubles
              1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 22: 24 New
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                Quote: opus
                pensions should be from contributions of the FIU.

                No one should receive gray salaries, everyone should pay taxes.
          2. Gray brother 6 May 2020 14: 57 New
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            Quote: ROSS 42
            You can look at materials and statistics on oil prices on world markets and on gasoline in Russia.

            The price in Russia does not depend on world markets, you mean exchange prices, as I understand it, well, they were negative, but fuel can still not be cheaper than what was spent on it.
            You count in rubles, not dollars - in the domestic market, the ruble is spinning, but the dollar has no circulation.
            1. AUL
              AUL 6 May 2020 18: 18 New
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              Quote: Gray Brother
              The price in Russia does not depend on world markets,

              Did you seriously say that now? Or is this sarcasm like that? belay
              1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 18: 26 New
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                Quote: AUL
                Did you seriously say that now?

                Completely.
                See for yourself - equipment eats money, transportation eats money, electricity must be paid, salaries, exploration of new deposits and organization of production for them, taxes on all this.
                Amount of these costs in rubles decreased? No.
                Therefore, nothing will fall in price. And the fact that speculators are jumping on the stock exchange is empty, they do not sell physical goods.
                It seems clear wrote.
          3. AU Ivanov. 6 May 2020 15: 38 New
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            Do you think that expensive fuel in Russia? It is one of the cheapest in the world, with the exception of just a few countries. Argentina is an oil producing country that fully covers its needs. Gasoline is twice as expensive as ours, and the standard of living is similar.
            1. ancient 6 May 2020 16: 40 New
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              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Do you think that expensive fuel in Russia?

              Not just expensive, but COSMIC (!!!!) Do not forget what percentage we get wassat
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              It is one of the cheapest in the world.

              The cheapest .. "propaganda" !!!!!!
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Argentina is an oil producing country that fully covers its needs

              An extremely incorrect comparison ... the hope that the people do not honor about it, but how are things in Argentina? bully
              And ... baaa ... discovers that the awesome resemblance between us is awesome ... and we are going exactly the same way wassat ... under the strict "guidance of the owners of the national status" crying
              Say "HOW MUCH DOES GASOLINE COST IN ARGENTINA?" wink

              The gasoline price level in Argentina fell to 0.8 USD / liter in April 2020. The maximum price per liter reached 1.46 USD / liter and the minimum 0.6 USD / liter.
              1. Sling cutter 6 May 2020 18: 00 New
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                Quote: ancient
                ancient

                Greetings, Friend! Glad to see you in good health, that means there is still gunpowder, since you are driving trollin good drinks NO PASARAN! soldier
              2. Alex Justice 6 May 2020 18: 06 New
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                Our gas price has fallen by half.
            2. opus 6 May 2020 20: 52 New
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              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Do you think that expensive fuel in Russia? It is one of the cheapest in the world, with the exception of just a few countries.

              The average gas price worldwide is 0.91 (US Dollar) per liter

              do not treat us, at the expense of "one of the cheapest"
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Argentina is an oil producing country,

              why don’t we take Nigeria?
              the same "oil producing" and also 100% provides for itself. and there is a liter there 32 cents
              Threat.
              written in the 90s
              Argentina holds 0,3% of the world's crude oil reserves. Strictly speaking, the country was a net oil exporter. From 1995 to 2008, Argentinean crude oil exports accounted for 11,5% of its total. However, oil production in Argentina does not satisfy growing domestic demand, which means that the contribution of oil to the trade balance will continue to decline.
              In the mid-1990s, Argentina was recognized as a country with great opportunities for gas exports. Ten years later, it may become a net importer of this raw material.


              In terms of resource endowment tore recoverable oil Argentina is one of the ten world leaders: according to the Energy Information Administration (AEI), it ranks fourth in the world in terms of technically recoverable hard-to-recover oil resources after Russia, the USA and China. Technically recoverable oil resources of shale formations in Argentina are 27 billion barrels, or 8% of the world's resources ...


              Hydraulic fracturing costs show even greater gaps: in Argentina they are 8 times higherthan in the USA due to the use of proppant (sand) from the USA and Brazil.
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              Gasoline is twice as expensive as ours,

              not doubled, no need to heal ...
          4. 5-9
            5-9 6 May 2020 20: 00 New
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            In the price of fuel at a gas station in the Russian Federation, 2/3 is a variety of taxes (MET, excise taxes, VAT) do not escalate ... In the EU, about the same.
        3. Svarog 6 May 2020 14: 48 New
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          Quote: Gray Brother
          Quote: ROSS 42
          And the fact that the population of the country will drag the oil pipe clamp is undeniable.

          How - outline.

          Well, what is there to outline .. is it really not clear? The ruby ​​has weakened, everything that we buy abroad will go up in price - this is the first, second, Sechin will ask for state support, as it was already and Rosneft will allocate lard dollars from the budget .. and the budget, as you know, consists heavily of tax deductions .. more will further optimize medicine , retirement age moved by another couple of years .. and so on, in my opinion quite obvious things .. Here, gasoline has not collapsed in the wake of oil why? Perhaps you have an alternative answer?
          1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 14: 58 New
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            Quote: Svarog
            . Here, gasoline has not collapsed in the wake of the oil why? Perhaps you have an alternative answer?

            I wrote above.
            1. Svarog 6 May 2020 15: 06 New
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              I wrote above.

              Well, let's take a look ..
              Pensions, subsidies to unprofitable regions, medicine, education, defense, science - a lot has gone
              65 percent of the cost is taxes. You bring what cost I did not understand.

              Pensions .. pensions have already been greatly reduced .. and also the coronavirus will now reduce payments ..
              subsidies to unprofitable regions

              Well, yes, Chechnya, for example .. only subsidies there at the top settle ..
              the medicine,

              It is already halfway optimized ..
              education

              For the third month, remote ..
              Science

              Does she exist at all?
              1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 15: 19 New
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                Quote: Svarog
                . pensions have already been greatly reduced ..

                Index the same. I have almost all of my relatives' seniors - there’s not a single person who has reduced their pension.
                Quote: Svarog
                For the third month, remote ..

                Everything passes and this will pass.
                Quote: Svarog

                Does she exist at all?

                I do not want to convince you, but there is.
                Quote: Svarog
                It is already halfway optimized ..

                Then the fried rooster came, now they will optimize in the other direction. I dealt with medicine and all cases were difficult, I saw how they did expensive operations that were not needed - the insurance pays. This shame, in fact, the loot was obtained from the budget instead of being treated.
                Quote: Svarog
                Well, yes, Chechnya, for example .. only subsidies there at the top settle ..

                It is not noticeable that they settled on it, everything was destroyed, and now the flowering region, except Mozdok, of course - there the redneck is over there.
                1. alone 6 May 2020 15: 43 New
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                  Quote: Gray Brother
                  It is not noticeable that they settled on it, everything was destroyed, and now the flowering region, except Mozdok, of course - there the redneck is over there.

                  Well Mozdok is not Chechnya at all .. And at whose expense this Blooming Land was created and for what finances does Kadyrov have such a motorcade? The cost of the tuple is more than the budget of some constituent entities of the Russian Federation
                  1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 18: 15 New
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                    Quote: lonely
                    The cost of the tuple is more than the budget of some constituent entities of the Russian Federation

                    The numbers are here.
              2. AU Ivanov. 6 May 2020 15: 40 New
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                Who reduced pensions, tell me? Mother so generally received a pension supplement, + a housing and communal benefit. My pension has not decreased either. So to whom did they cut their pension?
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                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  Who reduced pensions, tell me?

                  Why are you pretending not to understand wassat They were not reduced, they began to be paid much less due to an increase in the retirement age.
                2. ancient 6 May 2020 16: 47 New
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                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  Mother so generally received a pension supplement, + a housing and communal benefit.

                  Sorry for .... fool hold everyone? .. "Made a" lift "under the cost of living .. and that's it ... yes .. added a few hundred rubles ... so and the size of the" governor's "supplement was reduced by the same amount wassat
                  Well, voice it ... what kind of housing benefit did your mom get ... a new one? belay
                  And do not voice how much the services of this housing and communal services have risen in price?
                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  My pension has not decreased either

                  That is, you have nothing to do with the army? lol
                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  So to whom did they cut their pension?

                  And by what% did food prices increase? And how much is the price of a grocery check?
                  That's so much for us and ... "cut back" ... and more .... "not evening" wassat
                  1. AU Ivanov. 6 May 2020 17: 28 New
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                    50 tyr, as a rear worker at a time, 7 tyr of governor's, as a blockade, 2700 for housing and communal services.
                    1. ancient 6 May 2020 17: 39 New
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                      Quote: AU Ivanov.
                      50 tyr, as a rear worker at a time, 7 tyr of governor's, as a blockade, 2700 for housing and communal services.

                      Well, you ... "compared" ... them, participants in the Second World War already left ..... "count on the fingers" ... that’s them all this is ALL .. "friends-comrades" bully (I hope the list doesn’t need to be voiced) .. they should have paid + the monuments in the courtyard for each veteran and WWII participant to put ... well, or at least memorial plaques.
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                      Quote: AU Ivanov.
                      50 tyr, as a rear worker at a time, 7 tyr of governor's, as a blockade, 2700 for housing and communal services.

                      Let’s say that this is the case for your mother, who must be nearly 100 years old in good health. Only your family is an exception to the rule, and the exception confirms the rule.
                      and the rule goes like this: "we, the elder and the state in my face, will not support the settlers, but will hide in a five-star bunker and do balabolstvo zomboyaschiku."
                  2. NN52 6 May 2020 18: 47 New
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                    ancient

                    If you are ancient, then name your pension, military, now ... (just not google)
                    1. ancient 6 May 2020 22: 55 New
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                      Quote: NN52
                      then tell me your pension, military, now ... (just not google)

                      And what do you have ... memory lapses? .. I answered this question and laid out the full layout somewhere from a year or 2 ago (add to it all the increase (indexation) and increase) and get a new value ... .. "Forgotten." ... well, it’s understandable. lol ..
                      But how did you manage to retire at 47 ... .... "resign"? belay (I hope your comment screen does not need to spread?) wink
                      Or for you anyway ... what is "in reserve", what is "resigned"? Do you know why? ... You know, and I know .... wink
                      That’s why you don’t know what K.O. (oxygen equipment of the AIRCRAFT) is, but you only know about K.O. (the set of oxygen equipment that is in the cockpit, is fastened to the foot girth with the oxygen hose and KM connected later) ) wink
                      Or maybe you ... will tell me your full pension plan ... and I'll see ... "how and why do you count it)?
                      1. NN52 7 May 2020 17: 11 New
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                        ancient
                        On the subject of pension, I talked with Random (is this also your nickname? Did I understand correctly?)
                        There he (you have it) had numbers, and I voiced mine.
                        To retire (yes, even to retire), for those who are dull, I left at 34 years old, and now I am 47 years old (in any case, there were so many yesterday, today it’s already more).
                        Why distort everything?
                        So the pension for the "engineer" is a bit much, but not enough for the test pilot .. So, ancient-Random, it’s not beating like yours ... If we are talking about that dialogue with Random.
                        I have half as much.

                        Concerning KO, KCO ... I don’t know where you were relearned (or even relearned at all), but in Sevastlake we studied all systems. And we always called KCO.
                        You do not know about? Nonsense .... The Oxygen Equipment Kit is installed on the plane (and it includes all the equipment, including on-board oxygen equipment !!!).
                        In a word, an aerodynamic engineer ....
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                        Quote: NN52
                        There he (you have it) had numbers, and I voiced mine.

                        Yes .. "voiced" ...... you didn’t even have a service in preferential terms (as far as I remember .. a little more than 15 years in preferential terms? wink ... so you retired on disability.
                        From this it follows that you flew to the school with 3 goals .. well, maybe "in service" .. year 3 and .. everything ... the rest ... "somewhere around."
                        It follows from this that experience in flying work, and even more so, of some kind of classiness and practical professionalism, is not at all ..
                        Quote: NN52
                        Retired (yes, even retired), for the dull,

                        Well, please explain .. "for the dull" .... how can this .. "resign" from military service at 34 ????? belay
                        How did you fall into the category of military personnel who were laid off and subject to deregistration in connection with the achievement of the limit
                        AGE OF STAY IN STOCK ?????? belay
                        Quote: NN52
                        and in Sevastlake we studied all systems. And we always called KCO.

                        We studied and we .. "called" these are two diametrically opposite .. "things."
                        Okay ... for the last time I’ll deal with “eradicating your illiteracy and ... spreading your horizons” belay

                        Oxygen systems for the crew are:
                        - BKO-5K - a block of oxygen equipment, which includes a mask with a mechanism for adjusting the force of attraction to the face, which is especially important when performing a long flight;
                        - KDA-15 - oxygen-breathing equipment that is used when flying at altitudes up to the practical ceiling of the aircraft’s flight, including in a pressurized cabin and when leaving the aircraft (used on aircraft such as Su-27, Su-30, Su-34);
                        - KKO-LS-2 - an easily removable set of oxygen equipment for flights at altitudes of up to 6 km (installed on helicopters such as Mi-24, Mi-26, Mi-28, Mi-35M).

                        Emergency oxygen systems for passengers:
                        - AKB-204, designed in case of depressurization of the aircraft (installed on civil aviation aircraft such as Tu-204, Tu-214).
                        - Portable oxygen supply units (BKP), designed to move around the aircraft in case of smoke (used on civilian aircraft type An-148, Il-96, Tu-204, Tu-214).
                        - Stationary oxygen installations (KU-7 and KU-8), designed to test the operation of all aviation oxygen devices (can be operated in all climatic regions directly on the plane and outside the plane).
                        And you studied in the pulp and paper industry and PLC a high-altitude set of oxygen equipment KKO-5, which relates to [b] personal oxygen systems
                        In a word ..... "ice" - theorist .....
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  • AU Ivanov. 6 May 2020 16: 05 New
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    If gasoline collapses after oil, then social programs will have to be cut. Or either: either cheap gasoline and an abridged social program, or gasoline will remain at the same level and the social system too.
    1. Svarog 6 May 2020 16: 09 New
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      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      If gasoline collapses after oil, then social programs will have to be cut. Or either: either cheap gasoline and an abridged social program, or gasoline will remain at the same level and the social system too.

      That's actually what was required to be proved .. Our economy has a "gas station" .. in all countries gasoline falls because they do not depend on oil so much .. and we are dependent and nothing has changed in 30 years .. And your comrades are constantly convincing it's all that we got up from our knees and are practically independent of oil and gas .. Let's be honest already ..
      1. AU Ivanov. 6 May 2020 16: 23 New
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        In Norway, where oil is produced per capita as much as 6 times more than ours, gasoline has not fallen in price either. Although they could afford such a luxury. And our dependence on hydrocarbons lasts not 30, but 50 years. For 10-15 years, you can’t get rid of addiction, it is a longer process.
        1. Svarog 6 May 2020 16: 29 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          And our dependence on hydrocarbons lasts not 30, but 50 years. For 10-15 years, you can’t get rid of addiction, it is a longer process.

          Until the oil runs out wassat How much is already with you .. and you are all about one thing .. Look at the history .. what Stalin did to Russia over the same 30 years .. And your "reformers" did nothing .. nothing at all .. No science, no education, destroyed medicine, there is no industry, there is no mechanical engineering .. as long as there is oil .. yes and then it goes west for a penny ..
          1. AU Ivanov. 6 May 2020 17: 04 New
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            Do you agree to plow, like our ancestors in the 30s, pulling industrialization on their hump? In primitive living conditions? Yes, the Stalin era gave the country a powerful breakthrough, but I really would not want to live at that time. China's success is also based on the stunning performance of the average Chinese, but there is no desire to work as they wish.
      2. ancient 6 May 2020 16: 51 New
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        Let's be honest already ..

        Then they urgently need to ... "resign ..." lol
    2. ancient 6 May 2020 16: 50 New
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      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      If gasoline collapses after oil, social programs will have to be cut.

      "They killed ... on a pile" .... now it’s clear why we are rolling in ...... wassat
      Or maybe it is necessary to subvert the "appetites" of those in power and .. their "broadcasters." bully
      And then they compared the "life of the common people" and ... "celestials" ... they have something the size of yachts, palaces and land ... something does not decrease .... wassat
      1. AU Ivanov. 6 May 2020 17: 16 New
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        How many of these celestials? Well, two, well, three hundred. How much will you get by cutting back on their appetites? Is that a deep moral satisfaction.
        1. ancient 6 May 2020 17: 35 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          How many of these celestials? Well, two, well, three hundred

          Something you are modest ... and very ....... as of 2019 there were ..... 246 ("Baku" I mean) .. well, then we went ... "unaccounted for" (servants of the people, well, and so on).
          wassat
          They have money .. "by kamaz .. take out" wassat
    3. Sling cutter 6 May 2020 17: 41 New
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      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      If gasoline collapses after oil, then social programs will have to be cut.

      Where are the social programs? Do they even exist in our country?
      In connection with the latest events, I declare that our state is ANTISOCIAL!
      1. AU Ivanov. 6 May 2020 18: 56 New
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        What, have you stopped paying pensions? Child capital canceled?
  • aglet 7 May 2020 15: 34 New
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    "How - outline"
    don’t you understand the elementary? in this case, you should not be able to write and read. but to a simple question, I will give a simple question, do you have a car? and one more - they bring bread to your store in a car, or in a blue helicopter?
  • Kronos 6 May 2020 15: 05 New
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    In general, Russia itself then did not agree to a deal to reduce oil production
    1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 15: 33 New
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      Quote: Kronos
      In general, Russia itself then did not agree to a deal to reduce oil production

      Well, it was presented - we will build up here, and you will be reduced by a shurik. Who will agree to this?
      And then the coronavirus drove up to the heap, so everyone had to cut it because there was nowhere to sell pumped.
  • Civil 6 May 2020 22: 46 New
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    All reward, especially those who are special.
  • rocket757 6 May 2020 14: 33 New
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    The world economy will earn and oil will go
    At what price, we'll see.
    1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 14: 35 New
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      The world economy will earn and oil will go

      Well, that is a given. And the gas will just go around this time too.
      1. rocket757 6 May 2020 15: 36 New
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        No one will go anywhere from the purchase of energy resources!
        For me, the increase in consumption, when you need greasy black liquid and gas, in a real-natural form, leapfrog with paper "assets" will decline, because it is interesting only to speculators!
        This is precisely the crisis that has been shown the next, but not the last time!
        1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 18: 04 New
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          No one will go anywhere from the purchase of energy resources!

          But the industry consumes the most.
          1. rocket757 6 May 2020 18: 44 New
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            Economics, all taken together. Industry makes products for consumers, and those must have soldiers to buy everything! A vicious circle that is now broken in many places.
            Everything will have to be launched and docked.
      2. Kisa 6 May 2020 16: 01 New
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        and count on it. and no matter how much slap in the face the next deviation from the oil price from the oil prices will remain a slogan on paper. the budget in 00x was imposed -16% of hydrocarbons. today-47% ... and that oil in the Russian Federation for 51 years remains ...
        1. Gray brother 6 May 2020 18: 11 New
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          Quote: kitty
          the budget in 00x was made up -16% of hydrocarbons. today-47% ... and that oil in Russia for 51 years remains

          I beg you - what was there after Yeltsin except hydrocarbons?
          I can imagine a little how oil is produced and I don’t need to scratch stupid things, the SAs have already combed up holes - since the first vanguards they should have run out of oil two times already, now they have attacked Russia))) Have you calculated the Arctic shelf, I hope? laughing
  • sav
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    Soon the dust will settle down and see who will remain in the black
  • Thrifty 6 May 2020 14: 40 New
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    The situation of “not peace, not war” will be short-lived, because losses of many billions of dollars need to be somehow compensated. And there is only one option - the removal, possibly partial, or temporary at least of one of the largest players in the world oil market from it!
    1. iouris 6 May 2020 14: 49 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      losses of many billions of dollars need to be somehow compensated.

      "Dollars" or stock prices are not losses. Losses are expressed in kind. And the price of a natural product will change. How much can a piece of bread cost in certain circumstances? Maybe one grenade, maybe five. What about the dollar? Horseradish knows who and why it will be needed in certain circumstances.
      1. Thrifty 6 May 2020 14: 54 New
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        The same Yankees did not lose a million rolls of bread, but billions of their dollars. So, the losses for all players are significant, no matter in which currency. And since the ruble is not a world reserve currency, I wrote "dollar"!
    2. Uncle lee 6 May 2020 14: 54 New
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      Trump was whipped that in the fall he would command our oil and gas sector .....
  • Altona 6 May 2020 14: 45 New
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    Does Saudi Arabia get the edge? Theoretically, yes. Against the backdrop of extremely low prices, she was able to acquire the assets of several foreign companies. However, at the same time, she lost tens of billions of dollars in sales of “black gold” for nothing.
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    The Saudis got market shares where they never had, namely in Europe, having managed to "climb" into the Russian "clearing". True, they lost in China, but nevertheless the Saudis showed that in which case this tiger will not be a cat.
    1. vargo 6 May 2020 17: 45 New
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      The Saudis got market shares where they never existed, namely in Europe, having managed to "climb" into the Russian "clearing"

      Have you climbed? The type of oil does not always make it possible to buy anything from anyone. Not every oil will fit an already configured refining process. Talking about discounts for the European market is one thing, but selling and delivering is another. Plus, because of this whole game of demotion, the Saudis tremendously shrank the treasury, as did the reserve, even in Yemen they compromised. The budget deficit is enormous. If you dig deeper into what the Saudis had during this time, then I would not talk about any advantage of the Saudis. Do not forget, now there are so many tankers that are full to the brim, and another large batch is coming to the United States. it will anchor and the price of freight will rise further, and this again is a share in the price of Saudi contracts.
      The devil is in the details, but something here is not visible at all in the article. An empty chatter of a “sofa”, not an analysis of the situation. The author of the article has a minimal level of immersion in the situation.
      1. Altona 6 May 2020 17: 58 New
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        Quote: vargo
        The type of oil does not always make it possible to buy anything from anyone. Not every oil will fit an already configured refining process.

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        I am aware that Russian “fuel oil” and Saudi “kerosene” are two different types of oil and that oil refineries in Europe are imprisoned for “heavy” oil. And what is oil cracking, I also know. Nevertheless, they succeeded.
  • Lupmen 6 May 2020 15: 00 New
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    Yeah, oil jumps like my pressure .. It’s only that it’s not cold for us, it’s not hot .. Let the oligarchy shake hi
  • Keyser soze 6 May 2020 15: 00 New
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    Communist China, which has already bypassed the United States in terms of economy, is a blow below the belt for Washington.


    I understand this in a parallel universe?

    Because US GDP for 2019 is 21, 423 trillion
    China's GDP is 13, 407 trillion.

    Or I, like Rip van Winkal, hibernated a couple of decades ...
    1. Thrifty 6 May 2020 15: 20 New
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      And you recount their gdp in yuan lol
      1. Maas 6 May 2020 15: 29 New
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        There is a true GDP, which is at par. It considers everything: from export to defense spending. And there is a rescue stick, which is PPS. And the revenue stick shows a wretched economy quite well. But the economy counts only at face value.
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          Quote: Maas
          There is a true GDP, which is at par.

          that is, according to "your true" GDP, the Russian economy collapsed by half from 2014 to 2015 ?? !!! laughing would think before writing nonsense !!! fool lol
    2. Gray brother 6 May 2020 15: 26 New
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      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Or I, like Rip van Winkal, hibernated a couple of decades ...

      The USA does not have a real economy; therefore, they trampled oil and gas to pump as insane.
      The service industry does not do things, but China does.
      Stupidly from Wikipedia:
      The structure of the US economy is characterized by pronounced post-industrialism. Most of the US GDP (79,4% in 2004) is generated in service industries (which primarily include education, healthcare, science, finance, trade, various professional and personal services, transport and communications, and government agencies). Thus, the share of material production (agriculture, forestry and fishing industry, mining and manufacturing industry, construction) is 20,6% of GDP: about 0,9% of GDP is created in agriculture; industry produces less than 20% of GDP.
      1. voyaka uh 6 May 2020 15: 51 New
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        "service industries (which primarily include education, healthcare, science, finance, trade, various professional and personal services, transport and communications" ////
        ----
        Have you noticed the word "science" inside the service? Very well! smile
        Services include scientific developments, patents, medical research, etc.
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          Services include scientific developments, patents, medical research, etc.

          As a rule, this is unprofitable crap, which then also needs to be sold. If you think that if you’ve invented a plasma pick for Jeeps and now you’ll run all the money for it, then you’re very mistaken.
      2. Courier 6 May 2020 18: 26 New
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        Global Aircraft Engine Market:

        40% of the market belongs to two American companies Pratt & Whitney and General Electric. Another 35% for Americano-French CFM.
        Cheto China is not visible

        Top 10 semiconductor companies in revenue in 2019.

        6 out of 10 companies American
        China's dumb

        The largest manufacturers of equipment for microelectronic production.

        3 out of 5 companies American.
        China? No, have not heard.

        The largest fabless chip developers.


        Of the 10 largest companies, 1 is Chinese, and 7 american

        Real sector in the USA:
        1. Courier 6 May 2020 18: 28 New
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          Continuation of the list
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          Quote: Courier
          Global Aircraft Engine Market:

          Well, let them eat them now. Moreover, it is the money of corporations.
          What's up with the aviation industry right now? Does it bloom strongly?
    3. Pessimist22 6 May 2020 15: 52 New
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      He probably meant the volume of industrial production.
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        Quote: Pessimist22
        He probably meant the volume of industrial production.

        You guessed.
  • rotkiv04 6 May 2020 15: 46 New
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    I don’t know who played or is playing, but who has already won can definitely say, it’s the IMF and those who are behind them. About 100 countries already stand in line for loans from IMF and WB
  • Mambius 6 May 2020 16: 16 New
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    Who will win, who will lose, what's the difference .. It’s not for nothing that the people of the world have been dispersed to their homes. So as not to interfere with the redistribution of grandiose property ... Without war! Well thought up!
  • cniza 6 May 2020 16: 59 New
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    "Oil troops" are pretty battered, and no one dared to hang medals for victory on their chests yet. The situation is not the same.


    Well, why, there was a thought - it was China.
  • APASUS 6 May 2020 17: 06 New
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    All countries pursue their goals in the oil game and there are a lot of participants in this game, so there will be no clear winner.
  • The Word of the Word 6 May 2020 17: 15 New
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    Reasoning at the kindergarten level.
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  • 123456789 6 May 2020 17: 30 New
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    Quote: Keyser Soze
    Because US GDP for 2019 is 21, 423 trillion

    Because the US produces nothing but dollars
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      Quote: 123456789
      Because the US produces nothing but dollars

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      Why? Soy, corn and products from them, for example.
  • GUSAR 6 May 2020 18: 09 New
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    The phrase "communist China", of course, amuses
  • 123456789 6 May 2020 18: 57 New
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    Quote: Altona
    Soya, corn and products thereof

    Genetically modified
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    But why didn’t they write about a bunch of Saudi tankers that are off the coast of America and Singapore? And the fact that in America, storage facilities are already full and that new oil needs to be stored somewhere and because of this it is necessary to reduce production? And what about the bankruptcy of the shale?
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    And if you also give odds to China in the form of cheap oil, then the blow will be double. And then someone, and China, could be the one who considered himself the winner in the oil war by hanging the medal "For Victory" on his chest. But now, Beijing has stumbled on Washington’s allegations of concealing "viral" data, moreover, Washington has begun to look for off-Chinese sites for its large-scale production facilities. So with a victory, and China does not work.

    Those who manage the situation always benefit. Compared to the United States, China has significantly fewer control levers. I think the USA will ultimately have the medal.
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    Does Saudi Arabia get the edge? Theoretically, yes.

    Trump appointed Prince Salman (beloved wife) the main producer of oil?
  • KSVK 6 May 2020 21: 19 New
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    Quote: Gray Brother
    The price in Russia does not depend on world markets

    That's right!
    Here is the cost structure for oil refining from one of the leading companies (data taken from open sources):

    And this is the structure of taxes from there:

    What world markets are there. What is the price of raw materials, when this price is 9% together with processing.
  • FRoman1984 7 May 2020 06: 29 New
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    Sechin, if this translator with the Portuguese virus became infected, decided to sweep the shale market in the United States against the background of a predicted drop in demand, and left the deal with Novak’s hands, enlisting the support of Zero. He doesn’t give a damn about people, the cost of the dollar, the Russian economy, the main thing is personal ambition, he decided to play the arbiter of fate.
    I don’t know, there are no words, one insult that these villains are in power, and nothing can be done with them.
  • aglet 7 May 2020 15: 42 New
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    In the price of fuel at a gas station in the Russian Federation, 2/3 is a variety of taxes (MET, excise taxes, VAT) do not escalate ... In the EU, about the same

    it doesn't make me feel any better, I pay 45re / liter regardless of the amount of excise taxes and taxes, this is the price of gasoline at a gas station
  • aglet 7 May 2020 15: 46 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    What, have you stopped paying pensions?

    I have already retired for the second month, as they don’t pay. What will happen next, I don’t know, but it's already bad