A pair of US Air Force B-1 Lancer bombers bombed on a landfill in Estonia

NATO’s Spring Storm military exercises continue in Estonia. As part of the exercises, American bombers bombed one of the republic's military training grounds. This was reported by the press service of the General Staff of the Estonian Defense Forces.

US strategic bombers B-1 Lancer conduct training bombing during NATO Spring Storm exercises

- said in a statement.

It is noted that two B-1 Lancer bombers arrived in Estonia from Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota (USA), after spending 24 hours in the air, having worked out an air refueling along the way.

According to Estonian Defense Minister Juri Luik, the flights of American bombers are a sign of "US seriousness in protecting the Baltic countries."

The United States is one of our most important allies. I consider it especially important that strategic bombers complete their tasks by participating in our Spring Storm exercises

- said the head of the Estonian military department.

Meanwhile, it became known that on the eve of the above exercises, an Estonian conscript soldier was wounded. The reason for this was the firing of a Carl-Gustav hand grenade launcher.

Serviceman - conscript of the Kuperyanovsk Infantry Battalion received serious injuries during live firing from an anti-tank grenade launcher like Carl-Gustav. According to preliminary data, injuries were received due to the shock wave

- Said the press service.

As it became known earlier, the number of troops participating in the NATO Spring Storm exercises in Estonia from April 25 to May 8 was reduced from 10 thousand to a little more than 3 due to the situation with coronavirus. In addition to the Estonian Self-Defense Forces, units from France and Italy participate in them.

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[pru-pavel]

And again, NATO bombs explode over the heads of innocent civilians. Someone believed that the hegemon would stop in Syria? No, overt aggression against sovereign Estonia has begun. So, will we watch indifferently until the turn reaches us?

[Abbot]

This was reported by the press service of the General Staff of the Estonian Defense Forces.

Well, American strategists are already practicing very closely. In the immediate vicinity of our borders. The landfill in Estonia .. And how much is this Estonia, yo-mayo? I doubt that these were the B-1 Lancer. In such proximity, the strategist is no longer exercises, but anxiety and the departure of interceptors. Could this be another awesome PR throw-in amid reports of the participation of the same B-1 Lancer in Japan? Here, literally on May 1 it was.

[Sky strike fighter]

In such proximity, the strategist is no longer exercises, but anxiety and the departure of interceptors.

Not for the first or last time. The Americans decided to shake the old B-1B. His most formidable strategist. Although now American strategic aviation is probably in its worst form in the history of the United States - there are few combat-ready aircraft, almost all have exhausted their resources, and new ones will not be available soon.

The B2 plane, whose cost is more than $ 2 billion, turned out to be too vulnerable, the F117 stealth aircraft could not boast of a good load and were written off, and the good old B-52 with a dozen missiles on board is detected by air defense weapons even at the moment of separation from the runway ... From a purely practical point of view, only B1B can ensure the success of the US Air Force in certain regions of the world, but the history of this aircraft's life is heading towards decline faster than the creators think about its continuation.

There are no new aircraft, old ones become worthless, and those that survived need to be studied and re-produced for some time, while promising means of delivering nuclear weapons exist only on paper. It is not easy to do this even with such a military budget as in the USA.

Engineers say that the American B1B is the only carrier aircraft that can be produced at the lowest cost in the next five years and whose technological cycle has not yet been fully developed. Nobody will refuse from the old and proven B-52, however, the B1B can be prepared for a very modern war. For current wars, these machines are no longer suitable. Even in Syria, where the US military used B1B, their service was short, and the cars were urgently recalled for urgent modernization.

B1B almost lost the potential for modernization. Of the 60 cars, no more than half are equipped with modern equipment, but by 2025 already modernized machines can become obsolete both morally and technically.
• Secondly, most of the combat machines need urgent repairs, but the problem is that the USA cannot reproduce the technology of the 70s used to create this aircraft.

https://life.ru/p/1321096

[Abbot]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

The Americans decided to shake the old B-1B. His most formidable strategist.

The problems of the American military-industrial complex in general and strategic aviation in particular are not the essence of my post. I say, when an American strategist lands on a target at a training ground 100 km (distance from the ceiling) from the border of the Russian Federation, then this is no longer a joke. For the devil will take it, is it still a doctrine or already a war. Let's say the teachings of our Strategic Rocket Forces, the start is Kapustin Yar, the goal is Kamchatka. And let's launch for the same purpose, but to the other side of the globe? Through the USA! And what will begin? That is what I wanted to say. In my opinion, the message of the Estonian General Staff is a lie and a bluff.

[Sky strike fighter]

What is the lie?

US strategic bombers B-1 Lancer conduct training bombing during NATO Spring Storm exercises

In this? Well, why. Just worked off the bombing. Teachings after all.

[Aag]

Quote: Abbot

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

The Americans decided to shake the old B-1B. His most formidable strategist.

The problems of the American military-industrial complex in general and strategic aviation in particular are not the essence of my post. I say, when an American strategist lands on a target at a training ground 100 km (distance from the ceiling) from the border of the Russian Federation, then this is no longer a joke. For the devil will take it, is it still a doctrine or already a war. Let's say the teachings of our Strategic Rocket Forces, the start is Kapustin Yar, the goal is Kamchatka. And let's launch for the same purpose, but to the other side of the globe? Through the USA! And what will begin? That is what I wanted to say. In my opinion, the message of the Estonian General Staff is a lie and a bluff.

Exercises in the Strategic Missile Forces several times a day go. Let go. In standby mode. That is, only on the buttons.
Not special, maybe they worked out the approaches as well. And how did you get it yourself?

[ancient]

Quote: Abbot

I say, when an American strategist lands on a target at a training ground 100 km (distance from the ceiling) from the border of the Russian Federation, then this is no longer a joke.

So what ? Normal departure at the rate of combat training with bombing at a remote training ground ... Routine.
Have you already ... "got your pants wet"?

[NN52]

ancient

Maybe I don't remember something? About the concept of "REMOTE" aviation range in the KBP?))
Memory apparently let me down ... I confess)))

[ancient]

Quote: NN52

Maybe I don't remember something? About the concept of "REMOTE" aviation range in the KBP?))

You don’t understand, because ... you don’t know, you don’t know because ... you have never encountered this since in the air defense missions in the air defense system there has never been a b / m performance (we do not take into account the tests in Akhtubinsk)!

[ancient]

Quote: NN52

Memory apparently let me down ... I confess)))

Well, it’s understandable ..... after all, these are the terms from KBP-Tu-22M-76 g ....... and you, excuse me .. what year of birth am I shy to ask? ... It seems to be born in 1972?
"Educational program" - there are "their own" polygons (relatives, so to speak, where they flew with their eyes closed, like to their home), there are "remote", these are polygons located at a tactical range, which is close to the maximum. And there are "unfamiliar" - these are the polygons to which you fly, after redeploying to an alternate airfield and preliminary acquaintance with the target situation, you make only information on paper (instructions for the polygon and maps of targets and target situation) and for navigators, images of the radio situation along the route of flight, approach on the range and the target environment itself (center 105 and markers and ECP-if on b / m on the target radar.)

[Abbot]

Quote: ancient

So what ? Normal departure at the rate of combat training with bombing at a remote training ground ... Routine.
Have you already ... "got your pants wet"?

Was there a "flight in the course of combat training with bombing at a remote range"? Let's say the squeak of the Estonian General Staff does not convince me. Regarding "the pants got wet", say hello to your friends in Brussels. Every time after a meeting with Russian military aircraft, whether over the Baltic, over the Black Sea or in the Atlantic, protests and statements, mattresses and rehabilitation are constantly heard. Actually, the NATO exercises and the American bombing, first of all, should worry the Estonians. Something like this.

[iouris]

Quote: Abbot

Estonian General Staff report - lies and bluffs

Not so long ago, the B-52 was bombed. The United States and NATO are training with impunity in the airspace and on the territory of the USSR, two hundred kilometers from Leningrad. I do not remember that during the Soviet Union, US ships and bombers flew into the Baltic Sea. Maybe in the 1950s.

[Pvi1206]

In the event of a crisis, these aircraft will not reach the Baltic states ... but no one will send them there ...

[Aag]

Quote: Pvi1206

In the event of a crisis, these aircraft will not reach the Baltic states ... but no one will send them there ...

But will the Tu-95 fly? I think that without prior coordination with the opponent, they are unlikely ... Maybe this was the case here? If it was?
Well, indignation does not abate ...

[Valery Valery]

The Baltic States have turned from a "showcase of the USSR" into a latrine in Europe.

[Warrior with machine gun]

it turned into a knocked-out window, through which everyone looks.

[Warrior with machine gun]

strange moderation, wrote every mra_zota looks in, they didn’t miss it, for others almost matyuski skip

[Uncle lee]

A pair of US Air Force B-1 Lancer bombers bombed on a landfill in Estonia

And not even missed! (Although the landfill was in Latvia ... Or in Lithuania)!

[ancient]

Quote from Uncle Lee

And not even missed!

"Offend" ...... on it avionics and PRNK ..... you lick your fingers, and navigation ... "song". + "Appendage" PPK Sniper-XR ... even allows a "pig" in .. . circle ... "put".

[4ekist]

Besides training bombs, didn’t anything fall off there?

[Gray brother]

Quote: 4ekist

Besides training bombs, didn’t anything fall off there?

The drone claws pulled in an unknown direction. So they didn’t find it, their air defense was rubbish.

[Aag]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: 4ekist

Besides training bombs, didn’t anything fall off there?

The drone claws pulled in an unknown direction. So they didn’t find it, their air defense was rubbish.

I don’t think they have it. Except that at the level of GA’s dispatch services. But when the Americans root their systems and calculations there, will we look pale?
Regarding the lost drone (I didn’t see any other information). It was reported that it could be in the air for up to 90 hours (!). They say the development of a private company (I wonder how it really is) ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: AAG

I don’t think they have it. Except that at the level of GA’s dispatch services. But when the Americans root their systems and calculations there, will we look pale?

MLRS Patriot chtol?
They will not turn pink with them.

[Aag]

Are you not confused by the fact that (let's go counterclockwise from the north-west borders of the Russian Federation) Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine (got to the South) somehow do not breathe evenly to us? Are you really hoping that the above Is the border section reliably covered by air defense, missile defense? If there is reason to believe it, please share it if it’s not difficult. No, I’m sleeping normally, I’m tired of other difficulties.

[Gray brother]

Quote: AAG

Do you really hope that the reduced section of the border is reliably covered by air defense and missile defense?

Of course not. Objects are covered, and fighters fly to the border if necessary. I can’t believe what is not and never was unnecessary.

[iouris]

Boeing 747 in 1983 "deviated" 500 km from the route. So they from Estonia can bomb Leningrad.

[ancient]

Quote: iouris

Boeing 747 in 1983 "deviated" 500 km from the route

Remind me of the maximum deviation from the .. "route" of the Tu-22K aircraft (c.c. Chizhov), March 24, 1983?
Right 1280 km BTsVS it is such .. "thing" ... the direction of the main orthodromy to 180g to set. And fly ... in the other direction

[iouris]

Quote: ancient

Remind me of the maximum deviation from the .. "route" of the Tu-22K aircraft (resort complex Chizhov)

Did they fly into US airspace? The ANN did not stand on this plane. Especially the one with which they supposedly flew to the moon.

[ancient]

Quote: iouris

Did they fly into US airspace?

No ... they "flew" into Iranian airspace and "spun" 18-0 degrees directly over Tehran
.

Quote: iouris

The ANN did not stand on this plane.

No, of course ... the usual KS-6A and for the correction of the DGMK-7, well, and the "star" of navigation, the central navigation and computing device TsNVU-B. (The star-solar orientator BTs-63A was practically never touched )

[iouris]

Well, there is nothing even close to comparing navigation on Tu-22 and "747", although you have not described the navigation complex of the 747. Also, the political consequences of an accidental flight of a Soviet aircraft into Iran and US special operations in Soviet airspace. So you are acting incorrectly, colleague, I think SO

[ancient]

Quote: iouris

on Tu-22 and "747".

I agree, but the question is not in "equipment", but in .. "people" At 747, there is a refusal and that's it ... a complete loss of orientation, but with us ... no refusal, everything works ... that's just everyone looks ... "in different directions."
In my distant youth there was a case - Poltava - FEU regiment, "remote" training ground, additional reconnaissance officer in UG (10 min interval) ... we worked "stomping" back, it was NIGHT, SMU, "came" .. there is a thunderstorm .. ..relocated to Nizhyn (time is approaching 03.00). The navigator has a tablet in his briefcase with all the maps and diagrams of alternate airfields YES ... reads the diagram .. everything is ok ... I did not check it .. the knowledgeable navigator. approached the turn of 100 "ale-garage" (and the scheme is built in such a way that you are already starting to descend to the echelon of the transition .. no answer ... we go further, turn 50 ... ale garakh-answered .. well, for now, the point is, it's MG spoilers and ... "downhill descent" .... and immediately after taking the echelon, a turn to the opposite landing, traverse, landing gear (launching the APU, Tu-22M2, sliding the middle pair in the cart and blowing the wheels), short 3rd, 4 -th, range 12 on the landing, 10 .. I enter the glide path ... in short, the strip was "lit" only after the passage of the "distant" .. there were no searchlights at all (did not have time to put in position) .... in general, we sat down, parachutes, taxied ... we are waiting for the group ... and they are just entering the transition echelon and ... they are entering ...
Only then it came to mind that the navigator did not orientate the approach scheme along Su (the conditional meridian of the landing aerodrome), but took it ... MK Pos
Those. we cut the diagram according to the time of minutes so for 15
Fortunately, on the "tower" while everything was "untwisted" ... we have already sat down and .. nobody has seen anything, but we .. "modestly kept silent

[4ekist]

The gut will be thin, from Estonia and Christmas trees will not remain.

[HAM]

Mlyn! Another "allies" !! I was crying .....
The Poles are stuffing themselves into "allies" ... these too .... the victims of the "Iskander" ...

[Aag]

Quote: HAM

Mlyn! Another "allies" !! I was crying .....
The Poles are stuffing themselves into "allies" ... these too .... the victims of the "Iskander" ...

And I am annoyed by the number of “allies.” Is there enough “Eskander” today?

[rotmistr60]

Some drool over watching the Americans bomb their landfill, others lose control of the drone and cannot understand where it flew, others ask Ursula to impose new sanctions on Russia and Belarus for the construction of a nuclear power plant ... That's how the Baltic states live - they get rich Dumka and dreaming of a ghostly personal happiness.

[Al Asad]

"Spring sprats" should have been called the exercise)

[Aag]

By the way, there is now herring rushing!

[Zaurbek]

What would comrade say Ustinov to such a disgrace?

[Chingachguk]

"According to Estonian Defense Minister Uriy Suika, the flights of American bombers are a sign of" the seriousness of the United States in protecting the countries of the Baltic Emirates .... "
Down on down and down drives.

[Warrior with machine gun]

Well, they like to be contraceptives, the main thing is that they pull on a bump thicker.

[Old26]

Quote: pru-pavel

And again, NATO bombs explode over the heads of innocent civilians. Someone believed that the hegemon would stop in Syria? No, overt aggression against sovereign Estonia has begun. So, will we watch indifferently until the turn reaches us?

Paul! Sovereign Estonia is a member of NATO. If they want their ranges to be used for bombing, that's their problem. What up to us? They want to be "beddings" - let them be

Quote: Abbot

In such proximity strategist

He is not a strategist on existing contracts. Only a heavy bomber. Strategists are B-52 and B-2

[Aag]

"If they want their ranges to be used for bombing, that's their problem. What do we care about that?"
Well ... Don’t blame me for imperial manners, but I was born, lived for 22 years, (friends, relatives of TAM remained) ... What is it like watching TV on Abrams crawling where I picked mushrooms and berries in my childhood?
And please, respect the people (this appeal is not specific to you, but to all visitors to the site) who remained outside the borders of the Russian Federation, but who are often more Russian than those who vote from the sofas - We will tear them all!
I served in the Strategic Missile Forces ... And my mother called, with the onset of this century: "Sonny, if anything, we call fire on ourselves, don't be shy!"
All a Happy!

[alex aircraft]

Far Amers are capable of using aerial bombs. That 95ms or 160 is not capable of this, only that 22m3. Is it time to return this opportunity, or else work in a perfume in Syria cr. It’s like hammering nails with a microscope.

[ancient]

Quote: Alex aircraft

.tu 95ms neither 160 can do that

Who told you that? To do this, you need to "re-equip" from the "missile carrier" version to the "bomber" version (remove the "revolving" launcher and put in the DB) and forward.
A PrNK (radar + opb + nk) allow the use of "cast iron" in full
But just whether it is necessary .. in modern conditions of doing B.D.

[alex aircraft]

According to the former Commander-in-Chief Deinekin; we must learn to bomb it; it was said at the beginning of 160 that nothing has changed. They are not able to use cast iron. And about the effectiveness of which air defense of the Air Force EWs had in the spirits in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Syria, Tajikistan, etc.? Nothing !!! you need to teach farmers how to use the fab for local wars. I’m silent about the psychological impact on the enemy, for example, fab-2000. The cost effectiveness criteria have not been canceled. What is the price x 9000 and dozens of fab 101?

[ancient]

Quote: Alex aircraft

According to the former commander-in-chief of Deinekin, we must learn to bomb it; it was said at the beginning of 160 but nothing has changed. They are not able to use cast irons.

I repeat once again - P.S. Deinekin meant that the Tu-160 is not "knocked out" due to the fact that it was RE-EQUIPPED into the version of the "ROCKET-CARRIER" ... but at the same time, the expansion of the range of weapons was originally incorporated into its design, including the use of conventional bombs, for which the aircraft was equipped with a high-precision optical laser sight OPB-15T.(I emphasize .. for especially ... "gifted ones).
They also developed a batch suspension of bombs using a loader, which reduces the aircraft equipment time.

[ancient]

Quote: Alex aircraft

.a about the effectiveness of what kind of anti-aircraft defense air defense missile defense had spirits in afghanistan chechnya syria tajikistan etc?

And who speaks here for .. the "effectiveness" of using strategists as bombers?
In Afghanistan and Chechnya, the Tu-160 was not used. And what has it to do with ... "Air Defense of the EW Air Force"?

Quote: Alex aircraft

it is necessary to teach farmers how to use the fab for local wars. I am silent about the psychological impact on the enemy, for example, fab-9000.

Generally..BRED .... 9000 were used with Tu-16s .. "across the river" ... efficiency .. no ... except .. "relief leveling" .... but 1500 and 3000 were preferable.

[Lord of the Sith]

Well, why are Estonians happy? What do the Yankees learn to bomb this wonderful and impassable country?

[Aag]

Yes, they’re not happy, probably. The top of the country is fulfilling its purpose, mission ...

[Old26]

Quote: ancient

Quote: Alex aircraft

.tu 95ms neither 160 can do that

Who told you that? To do this, you need to "re-equip" from the "missile carrier" version to the "bomber" version (remove the "revolving" launcher and put in the DB) and forward.
A PrNK (radar + opb + nk) allow the use of "cast iron" in full
But just whether it is necessary .. in modern conditions of doing B.D.

In general, there is no sense to re-equip. The Americans have enough of these bombers, but we don’t have so many to convert from missile carriers into pure bombers ...

[ancient]

Quote: Old26

In general, there is no sense to convert

So I try to explain it to him, but ......

[Paul K.]

Afiget! And what ?!

[Labrador]

As part of the exercises, American bombers bombed one of the republic's military training grounds.

But I think what stinks in Tallinn? And this is NATO bombing!

[Old26]

Quote: AAG

"If they want their ranges to be used for bombing, that's their problem. What do we care about that?"
Well ... Don’t blame me for imperial manners, but I was born, lived for 22 years, (friends, relatives of TAM remained) ... What is it like watching TV on Abrams crawling where I picked mushrooms and berries in my childhood?
And please, respect the people (this appeal is not specific to you, but to all visitors to the site) who remained outside the borders of the Russian Federation, but who are often more Russian than those who vote from the sofas - We will tear them all!
I served in the Strategic Missile Forces ... And my mother called, with the onset of this century: "Sonny, if anything, we call fire on ourselves, don't be shy!"
All a Happy!

Alexander! In principle, I am not talking about ordinary people living there, especially Russian-speaking. They, like us in Russia, do not decide anything. And about those who are exposed by some kind of power. I would like to be "bedding" - let them be. If they are "at the helm" there is no national pride. All they can do is broadcast about the "Soviet occupation". God bless them.
As for the fact that someone lived somewhere - I have the same situation. I was born in the Kaliningrad region. I am afraid I will never be able to visit my small homeland, living in the North Caucasus. For a long time (14-15 years) he lived in Ukraine, in the Poltava region. You can't get there either. There are also relatives in Ukraine. True, the connection with them was lost already 20 years ago. I am also not a supporter of "delivering a preemptive strike" against this or that country. Sitting at a computer, it's easiest to give radical advice ...

[Aag]

I agree with you! With all the points set out above by you. I just wanted to focus the attention of the local audience on that (which you just mentioned: the country is not the same as its population! This refers to those who are ready with to throw the sofa with slippers of everyone and everything, including compatriots who have a different point of view.
Internal contradictions (if we do not learn to solve them peacefully), IMHO, will end us.
... I’m afraid I’m not going to visit my homeland either ...

[iouris]

Quote: AAG

to those who are ready to throw slippers from the sofa

Calm A dog that barks does not bite.

[starpur]

This is some kind of holiday for air defense, the real guys over the Baltic Sea, not all of our 160s to be accompanied by NATO. Lift not a couple, link and troll Lanserov, take photos from all angles ... Or overslept?

[Old26]

Quote: iouris

Quote: Abbot

Estonian General Staff report - lies and bluffs

Not so long ago, the B-52 was bombed. The United States and NATO are training with impunity in the airspace and on the territory of the USSR, two hundred kilometers from Leningrad. I do not remember that during the Soviet Union, US ships and bombers flew into the Baltic Sea. Maybe in the 1950s.

Kamrad! It would not be desirable, but it is still worth forgetting about the SSR. Now this territory - the Baltic countries - the territory of other states. As for the Baltic, you just need to see when the last RB-47 was shot down

[ork_333]

It is probably difficult to carry out bombing in a country that is slightly larger than the bomber itself?

[askort154]

To the ancient! Seryozha, I’m glad to see you revitalizing at VO. You are the only BA pros here. I am pleased to read your posts and marvel at your memory.
You have an excellent memory, even if you peep at the "old notes" - at our age it is forgivable. Seryozha, with the coming, the biggest holiday of our Motherland! Health to you! I do not send it to the "personal", but specially openly. You deserve it. Old-timers on VO, they remember you!