Belarus: the most Soviet of the post-Soviet

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In the Soviet Union, Belarus was a symbol of Soviet industrial power. In the 80s of the last century, in terms of the growth rate of its gross domestic product, this republic overtook countries such as Bulgaria and Ireland.

It is no coincidence that in the USSR Belarus was called the "assembly shop" of the country. Almost everything was produced here, from refrigerators and televisions to mining trucks. For decades, the BSSR (Belarusian Soviet Socialist Republic) was considered one of the few Soviet republics that produced more than they consumed.



By 1945, Belarus was one of the most affected republics of the Soviet Union. Every third Belarusian died in the war. During World War II, Belarus was completely destroyed. All the industrial power of the republic was created here practically from scratch by the efforts of the whole country.

Belarus became the only republic of the former USSR that linked its national holiday with the events of the Soviet Union stories. Independence Day is celebrated on July 3. It was on this day that Soviet troops liberated the republic from Nazi occupation.

Today, the Republic of Belarus is often called the most Soviet of all post-Soviet republics.

How did the republic survive during the years of World War II? How did you manage to gather all the strength of mind to stop and win? What indelible imprint on the character and the whole subsequent history of the Belarusian people was made by the Second World War? The documentary film “The USSR. Empire is the opposite. Belarus. "

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    1. +37
      6 May 2020 18: 23
      Honor and glory to the Belarusian people! Here is someone who, and Belarusians have never lost their dignity and decency, respect for their heroes and WWII veterans.
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        1. +25
          6 May 2020 18: 44
          I join. It is doubly disgusting to observe "urya-patriots" who spread rot against Lukashenka just because only his "cow has not died in his yard." At the same time, all the "attempts" of the Russian authorities cause nothing but disgust.
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            1. +11
              6 May 2020 18: 55
              But someday the taiga and oil and gas will be "finished" in Russia. Then it will become clear who "lived what". Judging by how the "non-tricks" are in a hurry to shake off all the good as soon as possible, these times are "not far off." request
              1. +12
                6 May 2020 19: 20
                I agree with everyone who noted the patriotism of the Belarusian people. Only one example of the “concern” of the Edrosov authorities for a worthy meeting of the 75th anniversary of the Great Victory. It is not a secret for you that the symbols of Victory are: portraits of Soviet commanders, the St. George ribbon, the banner of Victory - the state flag of the USSR, Red Square, Lenin's Mausoleum ... Sorry, but during the years of World War II there was such a fact:

                I hope no one needs to explain what color the flag is at the Vlasov parade and what attitude the Red Army soldiers had towards it. And now look how, by May 9, houses were decorated on the Builders Boulevard in Kemerovo:





                Tell me, are these really attributes of Victory? Was this exactly the way tens of thousands of rubles should be used?
                1. +6
                  6 May 2020 19: 22
                  To be able to make out flags posted in two rows:

                  hi
                  1. +9
                    6 May 2020 20: 01
                    It happens when there are no victories and achievements, but you really want to, at least stick to strangers. The main thing is to carefully forget about inconvenient facts.

                    1. +1
                      7 May 2020 08: 36
                      What relation do Vlasovites have to the historical flag of the Russian Empire? In my opinion, the same as our modern "communists" to the USSR. However, for some reason they continue to wave the Soviet flag, although they have as much rights to it as the Vlasovites to the symbols of the Russian Empire.
                2. +12
                  6 May 2020 20: 31
                  Russia is ruled by traitors to the USSR and their flag is appropriate, treacherous, Vlasov.
                3. +3
                  7 May 2020 04: 41
                  This is the state flag of the country at the moment. and it’s great stupidity to call him Vlasov’s only for the reason that this traitor decided to take this flag then and made it his own. but what did he have to do with it? he appeared long before his birth even. if every clown doing vile things will take something you cannot forbid him. he dishonored him. but did not make a symbol of something. surround yourself.
                4. 0
                  16 June 2020 08: 35
                  Do not call yourself Russian, because this is the name of the ROA.
              2. 0
                7 May 2020 08: 40
                I’m afraid that the Soviet giants, which nobody needs in Belarus, have already finished there, keeping them on the artificial respiration apparatus in the form of Russian subsidies will not help them.
          2. -2
            6 May 2020 20: 13
            Quote: lexus
            rotting Lukashenka just because only his "cow has not died in his yard"

            Well, the cow didn’t die like grazing all the time in the neighboring garden
            1. +10
              6 May 2020 20: 37
              The fact that Belarus has received from us for all the time as assistance and preferences cannot be compared with even a small fraction of the percentage that during the same period from Russia "gentlemen" (officials, oligarchs, religious figures), in particular those with dual or triple citizenship and multiple residence permits pulled out.
              1. -12
                6 May 2020 20: 46
                Why bother all in one pile? !!!
                or do you think that a clogged toilet riser justifies the brother’s dependency ?!
                1. +11
                  6 May 2020 21: 03
                  or do you think that a clogged toilet riser justifies the brother’s dependency ?!

                  The modern formation of Bandera in Ukraine just began with the shouting of the slogan on Khreshchatyk: "Your bacon was eaten by the Muscovite!" In Russia, it is now fashionable for “urya-patriots” to accuse Belarusians of a piece of bread. So how are you different from skakuas? The same Nazis, only in a different "color". And that's all. fool
                  1. -4
                    6 May 2020 22: 41
                    Quote: lexus
                    So how are you different from skakuas? The same Nazis, only in a different "color". And that's all.
                    do not forget to stamp your foot
                    I do not know who the "urya-patriots" are, but I know one thing that you cannot be a little pregnant and either we are together and then everything will be equally divided and from a pure heart and then the high and the cow and the geese graze in my meadow, but I'm the same milk I want to drink, or we live separately, but then I sell my hay at the market price, and not for free
                    and for you to begin, before slogans and terms rushing is not a sin to study what a particular term means
                    1. +8
                      6 May 2020 23: 40
                      Quote: Barmaleyka
                      or we are together and then everything is equally divided from a pure heart, and then high and a cow and geese graze in my meadow

                      A logical question arises, why feed a maskvabad or the border of the Stavropol Territory? In these two cases, these are parasites, and Belarusians are very hardworking people and they are the only ones who have preserved and increased the Union’s heritage. And they honor the Soviet holidays.
                      PySy. And look for the money you care about so much in offshore companies abroad, you will find many trillions there, that's enough for everyone. hi
                      1. -2
                        7 May 2020 07: 09
                        Quote: Malyuta
                        They celebrate Soviet holidays.

                        Well, yes, since the holidays honor it all changes
                        Quote: Malyuta
                        . And look for the money you care about so much in offshore companies abroad, you will find many trillions there, that's enough for everyone.

                        yes Lukasha spit on thugs and thieves and believe me, if he had a chance to become the first in the union state, he would have pulled towards, while he was always drunk Yeltsin, he counted on it
                    2. +13
                      7 May 2020 00: 00
                      Strange you! Who can Belarusians be with? With crooks and bandits? If the Russians in their country live as strangers, like slaves, then you want the Belarusians to join us. I recall how much state ownership these Novorossiysk authorities ruled, my heart is compressed by longing ... Planting do not transplant these thieves and service staff.
                      1. -1
                        7 May 2020 07: 06
                        Quote: Campanella
                        Who can Belarusians be with? With crooks and bandits?
                        only for some reason they want crooks and bandits to sponsor them
                  2. +6
                    6 May 2020 23: 19
                    Quote: lexus
                    The modern formation of Bandera in Ukraine just began with the shouting of the slogan on Khreshchatyk: "Your bacon was eaten by the Muscovite!" In Russia, it is now fashionable for “urya-patriots” to accuse Belarusians of a piece of bread. So how are you different from skakuas? The same Nazis, only in a different "color". And that's all.

                    Great comment, Comrade !!! It’s hard to add anything, it’s only that our domestic urya-skukuas has its own idol, cast not in bronze, but in mosaics. Oil mother, poopas! Gas father, save! Dear elder, defend! In the name of gas, oil and a kimberlite pipe. am yum!
                  3. +1
                    7 May 2020 04: 46
                    a piece of bread? are you normal ?, so belittling how much money has poured in the Russian Federation into Belarus, you still have to try ... for example, when you invest in something you want to see and understand what this gives you? paying children education for example do you want them to study and not an ox lying around there? why the Russian Federation as a country should behave differently?
                  4. -2
                    7 May 2020 08: 44
                    Really? And what did we get from Belarus? There are no formal political concessions. the economy has long been a circus. Russia lives as it earns. And what does RB earn? On export to Russia?
              2. -1
                7 May 2020 08: 42
                What are you saying? At least one official in the person of Rygorich did not steal the whole country from us at once. It is ridiculous to listen to the accusations of capitalism from those who have long lived in the feudal principality and are, together with this principality, personal property.
          3. -1
            7 May 2020 08: 39
            He is spread rot just because the cows have all died, and behavior with the aim of gaining at least a little money from Russia without giving anything in return has long been disgusting.
        2. +2
          6 May 2020 19: 58
          If our media crap on him, then it means everything is right.
          1. +1
            6 May 2020 20: 56
            To LAS, and to AHL
      2. +13
        6 May 2020 19: 20
        Quote: Egoza
        Honor and glory to the Belarusian people! Here is someone who, and Belarusians have never lost their dignity and decency, respect for their heroes and WWII veterans.

        Our people! good drinks

      3. +10
        6 May 2020 19: 29
        And how to understand the comments of the President of Belarus
        - All these wars are not our wars. The Patriotic War of 1812, Napoleon walked to Moscow and returned back through Belarus. Everything was plundered, everything was destroyed. Then the First World War. We got to the point that only a narrow strip remained from Belarus - a part of the eastern provinces went to Russia, and to Minsk they went to Poland under the Riga Treaty. Then World War II, we have the Great Patriotic War. Completely Belarus erased from the face of the earth. These were not our wars. Nevertheless, grief fell upon us, ”the press service of the President of Belarus quotes Lukashenko.
        And why today the youth of Belarus, for the most part, does not want to hear about the federation within Russia? But they consider it normal to parasitize on the body of Russia. Crimea still has not recognized Belarus as Russian, they scare it with friendship with the West against Russia and so on .... How to understand all of the above?
        1. -3
          6 May 2020 19: 59
          Shortly so ... Like it or not, the state is separate from Russia ...
          with its economy ... and Russia wouldn’t compensate for the losses from the sanctions ... moreover, it was the hardest part in some places, and here Belarus was added .... to stand in full growth from the trench ... of course, but you’ll bring more benefits if you destroy the enemy .. and you will save your own and strength will remain. Moreover, much has gone through Russia to Belarus that is not directly possible. Yes, and the Minsk Agreement .. type on neutral ...
          And that politics is in all directions .. and rightly so, Russia is also not always unambiguous ... real businessmen, profitable, not profitable.
          1. -4
            6 May 2020 20: 04
            Good koment! Literate! I support !!! I thought immediately the rudeness will begin to fraternal people ......
            But you agree that such as it is now, Belarus without the help of Russia will not survive "afloat ....."
            It will be devoured by loans and Western "friends" ,?
            1. +4
              6 May 2020 20: 27
              They will not devour .. they will change the values ​​and it will be much worse ... almost the same Europe, young people through one moral piderasts, those who lived in the USSR will die and that's it ... forget about Belaya Rusi ... there will be a scum field from sea to sea .. .and Belarusians will not remain. Patient ... until they die out.
              1. +7
                6 May 2020 20: 41
                And then I completely agree with you.
                My wife’s relatives live in Belarus ... Not so long ago they came to visit us. So they themselves say that 40+ everyone understands and want to be with the Russian people. But young people have already been brought up differently, just as you wrote ... Under Lukashenko’s regime, they are being crushed that people in Russia live much worse than Belarusians, that Russia only needs to be milked, but nothing to do with it .... After talking about this, I still really can’t get over it .... By and large, a tingling similar to Ukrainian galloping Bandera is brought up, and not to admit it, it is either blindness or something better ..... . Ukraine we have already missed .......
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                  1. 0
                    7 May 2020 07: 56
                    And what do you think will happen to Belarus next?
                    1. 0
                      7 May 2020 14: 34
                      And here is 50/50
                      Russia will not come to its lands ... there will be a swamp from sea to sea, both yours and ours, through one moral.
                      Well, if in the near future everything turns out ... integration, identical legislation, tax system, economic relations and conditions ..... then political views will become in one direction.
                      Well, we are the same, a little squeezed just, but all the same for plowing, I think that Belarusians are grateful people, and yet ... we need justice ... albeit in a minus, but in fairness.
                      1. -2
                        7 May 2020 19: 01
                        I think it will not be so .... Belarus already has a movement against Russia. Especially among young people. If the old special services of the West are to be broken in the elections, and it will be just so, since this collective farm has already bothered everyone and handed him the scepter again, Belarus for Russia will temporarily look like Ukraine ...... And then it will depend a lot on the people Belarus. And then young people appear .... Maybe they will jump, maybe they can jump, maybe something else, but something will happen according to anyone .... I don’t believe anyone already! If you flirt with the west, you have one way - the west! Otherwise at a loss! Wait, we'll see how Putin will save the dad !!! Unless of course he bought a house next to Gorbachev somewhere in Europe .....
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                        2. -2
                          7 May 2020 19: 17
                          Bandera in Ukraine, too, show off ..... But they rule the entire forty-millionth country! The West appoints corrupt presidents like Guaido and everything goes like clockwork! Given that the Belarusian economy is parasitic, for the most part, after pushing it away from Russia, you can do whatever you want with Belarus ...
                        3. +1
                          7 May 2020 21: 54
                          The economy is parasitic ..? Nonsense!
                          Bandera ?! You have very superficial knowledge ... read look .... how many of them fled with the Nazis, where the diasporas settled, how much and how they returned .. money, societies in the 80-90s. How many years they were driven through the woods, what support was .... and then the Ukrainians had a bullet in their heads for centuries, they were always different .... remember your service ... always distinguished Ukrainians!
                          Do whatever you want .... did the Yankees with the Indians ... Not the time, not the place. Wake up.
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                        5. -1
                          8 May 2020 13: 49
                          Yes, about Bandera and the like. These current groups are not the remnants of the former, this is a new one, created artificially in the West against Russia, against Russians .... They simply gave it a national color .....
                        6. +1
                          8 May 2020 16: 25
                          About people like you say ..
                          Even a stake on the head of Tesi.
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        2. +8
          7 May 2020 00: 03
          Crimea is not recognized ?? And why in Crimea our largest banks do not work? What also did not recognize the Crimea? You ask stupid questions
          1. -1
            7 May 2020 04: 59
            because the bank is not a name. it is a system. and if the backbone bank to drive under the sanctions we all do not seem enough. major banks to engage in masochism? to carve ourselves? one must look at things realistically.
            1. +2
              7 May 2020 09: 15
              That's right, Belarus, too, as a "system" has no desire to be substituted.
          2. -2
            7 May 2020 07: 52
            Here is the confirmation .... Why don't you recognize Crimea? You ask stupid questions ... This is where the whole "brotherhood" ends.
      4. -3
        6 May 2020 20: 16
        there is no quarantine in BelaRusi, which means that there is no pandemic, everyone is lying to us.
      5. +6
        6 May 2020 21: 10
        We will all watch the May 9 Victory Parade from Minsk!
      6. 0
        3 June 2020 23: 37
        I completely agree with you)) Belarus is beautiful !!)))
    2. +14
      6 May 2020 18: 55
      The monuments to V.I. Lenin were not tolerated. They will celebrate on November 7, and do not conduct debates.
      They published a textbook (and not just a book) "Victory of the Soviet people in the Second World War".
      One of the historical memorials is "Stalin's Line".
      HONOR, DIGNITY and GLORY!
    3. +8
      6 May 2020 19: 06
      I would also add that the quality of the products is VERY high! Whatever you take! But the conditions they have may be worse than in Russia
      1. +5
        6 May 2020 19: 16
        Elena, that's right. Belarus is the only post-Soviet country that has not betrayed Russia and has refused 30 pieces of silver. They are precisely for this much earlier than us what sanctions have learned.
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      2. -1
        6 May 2020 19: 47
        Yes, the product is good, especially from Santa Bremor ...... Remind me what sea is in Belarus? Or is it a repackaged European product that is under sanctions in Russia?
        I served in the Arctic with the guys from Belarus to the USSR, great guys! But today's politics of Lukashenko does not go into any gates ......
    4. -8
      6 May 2020 19: 14
      “FATHER” in the presidents of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and in a word “KIEV RUSSIA”
      1. -1
        6 May 2020 19: 49
        And who will command the collective farms? laughing
      2. 0
        7 May 2020 01: 16
        Quote: vavilon
        “FATHER” in the presidents of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and in a word “KIEV RUSSIA”

        Why "KIEVSKAYA RUSSIA"?
    5. +7
      6 May 2020 19: 36
      Friends! I also think that the AHL is a great president. I support all the slogans and joyful words addressed to him. Just take it from us to you. We can give the entire government to surrender.

      PS: We are doing so-so things at the moment. We are celebrating the parade praised by everyone, but there is no money for doctors to wear protective equipment — volunteers and the whole country are collecting it. On the site of the former airport in the center of Minsk, the Croats are building a quarter with a building density 2 (!!!) times higher than the normative documents allow ... Your oligarchs can only swallow drool enviously, looking at all this beauty. Take this holy man to you.
      1. -8
        6 May 2020 19: 51
        What are you talking about !!
        I was in Belarus and talked with ordinary people, no one said anything bad, of course there are problems but where they are not.
        But to criticize and point the finger at all the masters, you criticize means offer and not talk
        1. +10
          6 May 2020 19: 56
          I did not drink with you, do not poke. This is the time.
          You were, and I live here. These are two.
          I criticize and suggest, in fact: take it for yourself. These are three.

          A year ago, I didn’t say anything bad either. But the crisis situation very unpleasantly revealed one simple thing - our people are good and have united in this situation specifically, and the government, for some reason, stubbornly turns a blind eye to reality and pretends that everything is as before.
          1. -9
            6 May 2020 20: 11
            Well, in this case, I'm sorry, "my friend" will be at you.
            “YOU” tell me here that Belarusians are not Russian and not Ukrainians, but are made from another test)))
            You yourself don’t know what you want,
            “YOU” only see the negative, open your eyes and try to evaluate from a positive point of view, I am sure that the advantage will be impressive
            1. +9
              6 May 2020 20: 19
              "" YOU "tell me here that Belarusians are not Russians and not Ukrainians, but are made of another dough)))"
              Is this still sideways to the topic of our dispute? I do not see a logical connection.

              "You yourself don't know what you want,"
              I know. I know very well. Strange conclusion, based on one comment. Perhaps what you want and what I should want in your opinion doesn’t agree on you is not my problems, but yours.

              "" YOU "only see the negative, open your eyes and try to evaluate from a positive point of view, I am sure that the advantage will be impressive"
              What are you? The advantage is impressive when you live according to the principle of "char-crackling". Then yes, everything is fine in this country and everything is fine. And then already the "sing" begin to live, because "stability" has somehow swayed suspiciously.
              1. -4
                6 May 2020 20: 36
                Well, firstly, I do not argue, but try to understand you only
                I don’t know who you are, but it would be nice if you lived in Ukraine, Europe, Russia and then you would look at everything with completely different eyes.
                And Belarus and its people, I wish all the best and God forbid to choose the path of Ukraine
              2. +5
                7 May 2020 00: 19
                Darling, stability staggers everywhere. You just see only what is happening in Belarus. Maybe the Ukrainian scenario is closer to you or the Russian one?
            2. +1
              6 May 2020 23: 15
              Dreamer You (Vavilon), All Belarus has long become a Potemkin village under the leadership of Marshal - the former chairman of the collective farm (he knows how to sow, build, manage, etc. - only the results are such that it's time to run away from here). Yes, check out his cap and courageous expression at the parade (by the way, this is not a sign of intelligence)! You can also order a cap for yourself, they will send it by mail. All lovers of the leader of Belarus come for half a year, a year. You will feel the unforgettable sensations of dictatorship quickly, and if you object to the party's lines even faster in the pre-trial detention center. I did not think that I would again fall into this insanity under retirement.
              1. +3
                7 May 2020 00: 16
                You won’t please everyone, insanity is everywhere enough, both for retirement and for retirement. Russia hangs on raw materials and when there is nothing to eat, it doesn’t matter who is in charge and if there is freedom. You don’t like the old man, but here people are leaving for him for permanent residence. And you wallow in free Russia, find out the price of freedom!
                1. -1
                  7 May 2020 05: 04
                  state revenues from the sale of oil and gas 35 percent. you will not tell and the remaining 65 is what?
                  1. +1
                    7 May 2020 09: 37
                    Where does this data come from? We are 90 percent dependent on raw materials. Official numbers are customized to fit your needs.
                    The reality is that when buying a Russian TV or refrigerator, we send a significant part of the money abroad.
                    The global economy is a form of redistribution of resources in favor of developed economies, especially those who print reserve currency.
                2. 0
                  7 May 2020 08: 23
                  Radish horseradish is not sweeter!
          2. +4
            6 May 2020 21: 42
            Quote: AshiSolo
            I did not drink with you, do not poke. This is the time.
            You were, and I live here. These are two.
            I criticize and suggest, in fact: take it for yourself. These are three.

            A year ago, I didn’t say anything bad either. But the crisis situation very unpleasantly revealed one simple thing - our people are good and have united in this situation specifically, and the government, for some reason, stubbornly turns a blind eye to reality and pretends that everything is as before.

            Land, how gentle you are ... As they say, call at least a chygun, the main thing is not to put the stove.
            And I live here, and I disagree with many (and), but ..., but many under Luka got an education, built their own business. Is that so?
            And the discussion is not about who and how ..., but about - ... in each of our families, with us are small children of Khatyn ... ''
            And to become a pose, it’s not our land ..., if not right, correct ...
            1. +7
              6 May 2020 22: 11
              What does the tenderness have to do with it? Ostentatious familiarity on the Internet almost always borders on arrogance. As a person entered, so I answered.

              With AHL, many have achieved something in life, approx. What next? Does external debt not scare you? Does this concert, damn it, on the 9th do not care? The tender for the stage, for 600 mowers, announced on April 30 (!!!) before the big weekend, does not suggest that it was announced for specific personalities? In general, this situation, when doctors feed cafes, mobile operators provide communication, and volunteers and ordinary people collect money for masks, shields, respirators and shoe covers, and the authorities hold a parade - is that normal?

              I have always been well disposed towards parades, but here is inappropriate time and absolutely bestial attitude. First of all, to the doctors.

              So tell me, what if no one would have built a business without AHL? Or did you not get an education? Are you not at all embarrassed by "shake hands with the last businessman" or what kind of "help" have now been promised to ordinary people and businesses that have flown into tar-tarars? Great help - additional checks with the right to close outlets. And tax deferral for 2 quarters, with payment then for all three, at the end of the year. Fabulous help.

              Under AHL, a typical "proletarian" with MTZ or MAZ lives well. The salary is stable, loans to factories are dripping, well, work at a loss - so it does not concern the hard worker. Strictly on the day the salary will drop on the card. Right now, the result of this stability will become visible, when the economy all over the world has gone to hell and no one wants to lend in particular.

              PS: It becomes a pose - maybe not ours. But you won’t be in a position and defend your innocence, they will very quickly set it up. In another, much less pleasant pose.
          3. +2
            7 May 2020 00: 07
            I wonder who you want to see as president and how you see your life?
            How will Ukraine aspire to the EU? And what do you dislike about dad?
            1. 0
              7 May 2020 07: 55
              I have a feeling that the AHL will not come to power, and in the opinion of many, more than 9 million people will sigh sadly: "Well, that's it, the country is over ..." and scatter around the world with knapsacks on their backs. I don't like a lot of things with AHL. And first of all, the old, decrepit and very stale government. As you communicate with an official in the region of 40-45 years, there are no problems, everything can be solved, they understand, they work, something can be done. As you run into someone who has been sitting in his chair for 40-50 years, that's it, extinguish the candles. It is not allowed, it is impossible, we will consider it, we will decide, we do not do this. And no matter what it touches. It is terrible to lose your place, contradicting the party line, and that's it.

              I need a person in power who at least will not generate external debt because of his wishes. The Hunger Games in 19, these parades now, in Gomel, the ugly story with the flagpole - these are not the things you cannot live without. You need to live within your means, not "beautifully".

              And, yes, there is still a whole cloud of beneficiaries and "social burden". Well, and a little less well-known in circles like yours, bastards. They regularly receive their faithful piece for years, rather unceremoniously squeezing out successful projects at the state level.
              1. +1
                7 May 2020 09: 27
                You have a claim more emotional plan. Here we also slammed the USSR, we wanted to improve, not understanding the essence. As for your claims, I can say the same thing in Russia and even worse, we have cut the social network and cut it to the maximum., And officials, with a few exceptions, carry out the general line with dubai-dubbing.
                We really want to have everything good from the world experience with us, and at the same time we feel free and are masters of life. Once again I will tell you that you will not like the experience of Ukraine even more and neither Belarus, nor Russia will be able to live in Europe. Because we are not them.
                1. 0
                  7 May 2020 18: 23
                  "We really want everything good from the world experience to be with us and at the same time we feel free and are the masters of life."
                  Is this something bad? Or is it wrong? Should you want to "somehow" and be glad that your neighbor is even worse?

                  "I will tell you once again that you will not like the experience of Ukraine even more"
                  And why such persistence in the fact that it is necessary to follow the path of Ukraine? There are no other countries that need to be guided and adopted from them good?

                  I strongly dislike your logic. This is just the same logic of the AHL: "Everything is bad with us? Look there, it's even worse there!" It is necessary to move to where it is better, to do it so that it is better and focus on the best. And not to nod at a neighbor and be glad that his is worse.
                  1. +2
                    7 May 2020 21: 28
                    This is normal when a person strives for the best. The question is in the realities, and they are such that not one of the leading countries of the world will invest in the development of another country. So your Wishlist will remain yours and no one else. As for the experience of other countries, give an example of a successful post-Soviet republic?
                    The logic of Lukashenko is the logic of a pragmatist, but everything else is populism, which, as you know, leads to sad things.
                    Once again I want to ask you, who do you see as the president of Belarus? Democrat? Liberal? Any of these leaders with 100% probability will lead Belarus to the Ukrainian version.
                    1. 0
                      8 May 2020 08: 18
                      How interesting you get.
                      "The question is in reality, and they are such that none of the leading countries in the world will invest in the development of another country."
                      Right before my eyes there are exactly two completely opposite examples. One neighbor from the east who has been pumping money into our country for two decades. And the second country from the east, which not so long ago in an effort to consolidate its status and influence in the world, is pouring money into Africa and all sorts of Bantustans and Belarus.

                      "Lukashenko's logic is the logic of a pragmatist, but everything else is populism, which, as you know, leads to sad things."
                      You did not serve as a political officer? So, on the blue eye, shuffle the facts and give out the same thing in the way that suits you - this is directly a characteristic handwriting. So, if I don’t like the state’s spending on extra events, it’s emotions and populism. And if you like them - is it pragmatism? Very cute.

                      “Once again, I want to ask you, who do you see in the role of the President of Belarus? Democrat? Liberal? Any of such leaders with 100% probability will lead Belarus to the Ukrainian option.”
                      The answer is absolutely specific. Liberal, Democrat, Republican, dictator, tyrant - no difference. But a person at the helm of my country definitely should not hold an expensive parade while volunteers, business and ordinary people raise money for doctors for personal protective equipment. Not because they are few or bad, but because they simply DO NOT.

                      And take it easy with your own path of Ukraine. This is already like a fetish for you. The Baltic states, post-Soviet, for a second, without Maidans and blood, quietly left for Europe, where they climbed all my life without Vaseline and exists quite well. This fact does not bother you from the word in any way. But not a single post of yours has so far been without a horror story about "the path of Ukraine".

                      Once again, I’ll repeat to you for the last time: you don’t need to take the worst. You need to take the best. And these are not my personal wishes. These are the wishes of any person. You all reduce to the fact that "And the neighbor generally beats his wife and children!" For this I consider further dispute inappropriate. All the best to you and do not get sick.
                      1. 0
                        8 May 2020 15: 22
                        With good intentions, the road to hell is lined ...
                        I do not argue with you, but try to explain my approach to the problem. I consider your claims to Lukashenko insignificant, for example, let’s say our Putin needs to be changed because the Russian economy is simply destroyed, there is almost no production, there are no conditions for the development of medium and small business, the social network is practically destroyed, etc.
                        Belarus has only one way to Europe to become an enemy of Russia, in this capacity the West will be more favorable to it, but this will not bring Belarus much benefit, it will become an outpost of NATO on the border with Russia. And this in turn will lead to the fact that Russia will consider the territory of Belarus as a potential adversary, with all that it implies. By the way, those countries about which you said just perform similar roles.
                        As for the best, just wondering what are you going west with? You have no raw materials, the products of your industry are not needed in the West. What are you going to "live happily" there for?
                        However, you can not answer.
                        Your life in any way is in your hands and the hands of your compatriots. I can only wish you good luck and health!
                        1. 0
                          8 May 2020 19: 44
                          Hellish hell ... Wherever you spit - the path to the enemies of Russia. And only to the west. It’s just some kind of phobia, or a dream.

                          Human, re-read my last answer to you. Reread carefully, thoughtfully. Are there words that "taking the best" means going west by all means? You interpret my words the way you like and how you want it.
                        2. 0
                          8 May 2020 20: 24
                          I read about your desires, but these are only desires, but the reality is different, it requires more.
                          And just to take pride of place in a number of prosperous countries will not work. One must earn the favor of the leading powers or offer them something that will interest them, whether Belarus has it, I'm afraid not, except that I indicated earlier, to be an outpost of Russia.
                          As for the east, this is a Eurasian union, but you are already in it.
      2. 0
        6 May 2020 21: 36
        It’s immediately obvious that you are not from Minsk. I have a child at the age of 11 who knows that Minsk is being built on the site of the airport by Serbs.
        1. +3
          6 May 2020 22: 00
          Confused, I confess. To be fair, I don't really care where the Danes come from. Bestiality alone with a "lighthouse" already makes Serbs or non-Serbs not particularly critical. I am more stressed by the "world" and the building on Oktyabrskaya. Have you seen the numbers that were released today? Density and parking spaces? Personally, my hair stands on end. And so you drive past from the side of the kuras and you wonder what the former field is turning into, and with these figures you generally lose faith in our power.
        2. 0
          6 May 2020 23: 19
          SPQR What difference does it make, Serbs, Croats, is it really important, the essence does not change!
      3. +2
        7 May 2020 01: 18
        Quote: AshiSolo
        Friends! I also think that the AHL is a great president. I support all the slogans and joyful words addressed to him. Just take it from us to you. We can give the entire government to surrender.

        PS: We are doing so-so things at the moment. We are celebrating the parade praised by everyone, but there is no money for doctors to wear protective equipment — volunteers and the whole country are collecting it. On the site of the former airport in the center of Minsk, the Croats are building a quarter with a building density 2 (!!!) times higher than the normative documents allow ... Your oligarchs can only swallow drool enviously, looking at all this beauty. Take this holy man to you.

        Let's change on ours, with the whole government. Maybe then we will even begin to develop industry.
        1. +1
          7 May 2020 07: 57
          Come on. Let you also have a developed industry, which plows at a loss and on which ten collective farms are hung up per load xD
    6. -4
      6 May 2020 19: 59
      Quote: lexus
      I join. It is doubly disgusting to observe "urya-patriots" who spread rot against Lukashenka just because only his "cow has not died in his yard." At the same time, all the "attempts" of the Russian authorities cause nothing but disgust.

      You see what you are ?! Under the guise of honors, the Belarusian people still could not resist and immediately piled a bunch. Tukhlenko it somehow looks on your part.
      The worthy Belarusian people are not lucky with the Old Man, but with the fact that you are not among them
    7. +1
      6 May 2020 20: 02
      Quote: vavilon
      “FATHER” in the presidents of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and in a word “KIEV RUSSIA”

      Yeah, settle it at home.
      1. -2
        6 May 2020 20: 26
        Ukrainians will exchange for their "jester" with his servants the people with pleasure
    8. +7
      6 May 2020 20: 10
      I am proud of course, but I'm not talking about that.
      Belarusians never betrayed anyone.
      And I, being Belarus, will not betray, I can get angry, indignant, but let him touch.
      Congratulations on Victory Day!
      1. +3
        6 May 2020 21: 46
        Quote: Russobel
        I am proud of course, but I'm not talking about that.
        Belarusians never betrayed anyone.
        And I, being Belarus, will not betray, I can get angry, indignant, but let him touch.
        Congratulations on Victory Day!

        And you with Victory Day !!!
        We have such a share of being angry and indignant, well, and still work, work and work again ...
    9. -2
      6 May 2020 20: 11
      Quote: vavilon
      What are you talking about !!
      I was in Belarus and talked with ordinary people, no one said anything bad, of course there are problems but where they are not.
      But to criticize and point the finger at all the masters, you criticize means offer and not talk

      Your words yes to Lexus in the ears)))))
      Double standards?
    10. -11
      6 May 2020 20: 12
      They also forgot to mention. Minsk is the only hero city in the USSR that did not have a heroic defense!
      It was surrendered on the 5th day of the war, and on July 3 the Wehrmacht was at Smolensk, where it was detained for a month.
      In addition, the Belarusian military district was the most unprepared for war.
      But howling about the Belarusians most affected by the war is the loudest.
      1. +7
        6 May 2020 21: 08
        It was the Army that surrendered Minsk and all of Belarus, and the People of Belarus then fought in partisan units all the time of the occupation.
      2. +4
        6 May 2020 21: 39
        Minsk received the star of the hero not for defense, but for resistance and the underground struggle against the invaders.
        And those who suffered more are inappropriate here.
        I have two grandmothers survived the occupation, but you probably know better there in your Chelyabinsk or where you are from.
      3. +5
        6 May 2020 21: 55
        Quote: Enemy
        They also forgot to mention. Minsk is the only hero city in the USSR that did not have a heroic defense!
        It was surrendered on the 5th day of the war, and on July 3 the Wehrmacht was at Smolensk, where it was detained for a month.
        In addition, the Belarusian military district was the most unprepared for war.
        But howling about the Belarusians most affected by the war is the loudest.

        And now, the enemy of the frontier, about the MEMORY that you howl about
        -yes Minsk was surrendered, but the Western District, it’s not Belarusians, but the Red Army troops. But already from August / September 41, the ground was burning under the feet of acupants.
        Yes, don’t throw the beads in front of you. Are we not talking about Urengoy?
      4. +2
        7 May 2020 01: 24
        Quote: Enemy
        They also forgot to mention. Minsk is the only hero city in the USSR that did not have a heroic defense!
        It was surrendered on the 5th day of the war, and on July 3 the Wehrmacht was at Smolensk, where it was detained for a month.
        In addition, the Belarusian military district was the most unprepared for war.
        But howling about the Belarusians most affected by the war is the loudest.

        Is Lukashenka to blame?
    11. +6
      6 May 2020 20: 20
      In Belarus - peace, labor, May, Victory!
      In Moscow, self-isolation, pension reform, a nullified president, and the howling of sirens outside the windows.
      1. 0
        6 May 2020 20: 36
        In Belarus, pension reform was carried out as far back as 2017. And can you tell me how many consecutive terms stayed for Lukashenko?
        1. -1
          6 May 2020 20: 38
          In any case, he did not swear oaths not to raise the retirement age and did not mock the Constitution with amendments.
          Do not enlighten me what is written in the basic law on self-isolation?
          1. +3
            6 May 2020 20: 49
            And what does the Constitution have to do with it? Self-isolation is a perfectly reasonable restriction, without any constitutions. The only thing was to enter it two weeks earlier.
            1. +2
              7 May 2020 09: 07
              Yes, moreover ... The Constitution has a concept of emergency and emergency situations, but nothing about self-isolation. So fines for self-isolation - arbitrariness. If the Constitution is the basic law, then self-isolation can be wiped. And if not, then you can wipe the basic law.
              So how do we live? By law or by definition?
              And the same with amendments to the Constitution. There is no general law for a popular vote for amendments in bulk. There, in this regard, completely different procedures. This means that the amendments introduced will be illegal and illegitimate.
              1. 0
                7 May 2020 09: 11
                Self-isolation is common sense, not concepts. "My hands before meals" - will we also prescribe in the Constitution?
                1. +1
                  7 May 2020 09: 15
                  Even children know about "wash your hands before ...... and back". You don't need to prescribe this, but about cats and priests, this is a must.
                  1. 0
                    7 May 2020 09: 17
                    Why should everyone register in the Constitution? Let’s add the SDA to the Constitution.
                    1. +1
                      7 May 2020 09: 21
                      Come on. Then to fine for a trip in a car with self-isolation will be completely legal, not like now.
                      1. 0
                        7 May 2020 09: 26
                        It is necessary not to fine, it is necessary to forcibly violate the self-isolation regime to send to the observers. Maybe it will be easier to understand.
                        1. +1
                          7 May 2020 09: 31
                          Andrew. I do not question common sense in the regime of self-isolation, I do not agree with the lawfulness of punishment for its violation, which is not spelled out either in the SDA or in the Criminal Code. The law, he either is, or ....
                          Sincerely ...
          2. +3
            6 May 2020 20: 52
            at the expense of oaths, which he just didn’t give (probably he’s lost his account for a long time). Amendments to the Belarusian constitution were added three times in 25 years (1994, 1996, 2004), some other (silent, they don’t say what) amendments are planned to be added this year.
    12. -2
      6 May 2020 20: 21
      Old Man is criticized only by those who will always be few in all, how many don't give or provocateurs
      Talking to young guys in Belarus, they told me that against Lukashenko just because you can’t drink beer in the parks and in Ukraine you can)) that’s a good reason! )))
    13. +5
      6 May 2020 20: 23
      Quote: Enemy
      They also forgot to mention. Minsk is the only hero city in the USSR that did not have a heroic defense!
      It was surrendered on the 5th day of the war, and on July 3 the Wehrmacht was at Smolensk, where it was detained for a month.
      In addition, the Belarusian military district was the most unprepared for war.
      But howling about the Belarusians most affected by the war is the loudest.

      You pick up words and think ahead what to scribble!
    14. +5
      6 May 2020 20: 29
      In the Soviet Union, Belarus was a symbol of Soviet industrial power. In the 80s of the last century, in terms of the growth rate of its gross domestic product, this republic overtook countries such as Bulgaria and Ireland.

      Belarusians are our brothers. Indeed, the only country that does not spit on the glorious Soviet past.
    15. -3
      6 May 2020 20: 32
      Quote: prior
      In Belarus - peace, labor, May, Victory!
      In Moscow, self-isolation, pension reform, a nullified president, and the howling of sirens outside the windows.

      Do not rush to hysteria and change shoes in the air. There is still time before the 75th anniversary of the Victory Parade.
    16. +2
      6 May 2020 20: 54
      Quote: prior
      In any case, he did not swear oaths not to raise the retirement age and did not mock the Constitution with amendments.
      Do not enlighten me what is written in the basic law on self-isolation?

      Are you not happy with the constitutional amendments from the saints of the 90s? Well, list them (if you can) and decide for yourself what exactly is mockery.
      What is this "basic law"?
      The issue of self-isolation is not regulated by federal law.
    17. +2
      6 May 2020 21: 11
      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      And what does the Constitution have to do with it? Self-isolation is a perfectly reasonable restriction, without any constitutions. The only thing was to enter it two weeks earlier.

      Yes, everything is simple - what a fart anyhow. And preferably smelly, even if off-topic. He himself does not really understand what his phrases are about. "Heart of a Dog" is involuntarily recalled.
    18. +1
      6 May 2020 21: 28
      The author was a little mistaken. Minsk was liberated on July 3, 1944, and not the entire BSSR.
    19. 0
      6 May 2020 21: 35
      As if Old Man was not cherished (sometimes quite rightly), but it was he who made a huge contribution to modern Belarus.
      1. 0
        6 May 2020 23: 25
        Yes, that's right, the contribution has been made. There was no such lawlessness after 1991!
    20. +2
      6 May 2020 21: 41
      For this, the “revolution” was made - the dismemberment of Russia into Soviet “rebellions”.

      Russian separatism - 1912:

      There is no Belarusian language, but it is necessary to Belarusianize - 1925:

      The Belarusian language, as in 1918, has so far been sculpted on its knee - for some reason, the Oryol dialect does not interfere with the Russian language, and for the Mogilev dialect, it is absolutely necessary to invent a newspeak.
      Ukrainization, Belarusization and labor legislation:


      https://zhenziyou.livejournal.com/tag/белоруссизация
    21. +1
      6 May 2020 22: 51
      Quote: lexus
      It happens when there are no victories and achievements, but you really want to, at least stick to strangers. The main thing is to carefully forget about inconvenient facts.


      But now the premiere of the next "Zuleikha" is on KiselTV. I heard an announcement about "... how counterintelligence during the war years fought against Hitler's spies and saboteurs." It took me 20 minutes to make sure that another Zuleikha was slipped into the people. In all this, the system is clearly visible. How can he disagree with the author of this article in the weekly "Military Industrial Courier"! sad
      https://www.vpk-news.ru/articles/56796?utm_source=politobzor.net
    22. +2
      7 May 2020 06: 16
      This video highlights one fact. Shushkevich proclaims a union of three republics - Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. So why did it not take place? The fact is that all this happened with an eye to the West. Of course, Western influence acts on Belarus. But they were able to save the people from "therapy." It was humiliation for us, there is nowhere else. For this, Yegor was invited by the Peace Corps. And apparently he left his recommendations. Ordinary people have nothing to share with the people of Belarus.
    23. +1
      7 May 2020 07: 31
      The Belarusian people are honored and respected, but panegyrics do not need to be written. The entire Soviet Union was engaged in post-war reconstruction, from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok. And refrigerators with TVs and cars were produced all over the country, and not just in Belarus. But the fact that only the two union republics of the BSSR and the RSFSR produced more goods than they themselves consumed is beyond any doubt.
    24. -1
      7 May 2020 08: 33
      It’s good to live in socialism at the expense of cap. Of Russia.
    25. +3
      7 May 2020 10: 57
      Those who in the comments make Lukashenko an ideal person obviously did not live and do not live in Belarus.
      Lukashenko, like any person, has advantages and disadvantages. From what has recently been very annoying to people is his unwillingness to recognize the problem with coronovirus.
      The state holds a parade and a festive concert with a total cost of 1-2 million dollars, and valeters buy health masks and hygiene products for doctors.
      The problem is that Lukashenko in Belarus can do any stupid thing and officials do not dare to object to him.
      Those who wrote about the absence of aligarchs - here the situation is not simple. In this form, as in Russia, we have no aligarchs. But there are many large businessmen closely associated with the Lukashenko family. Prigogine local spill. And in general, we have a state structure that conducts business in the interests of the Lukashenko family. It is called the “Presidential Administration” which owns many office centers, hotels, restaurants and other businesses. The report on the activities of this enterprise is hidden from the public.
      Business is a bad thing, many in the Russian Federation have moved their companies and are happy.
      But there are good points. In general, we have more economy in the country. I can’t imagine what would be shown on the Internet a dead hospital, for example with dilapidated buildings like you have in Sverdlovsk. The very next day, Lukashenko personally held Huber and the chief doctor by the throat, and the KGB would check their family and bank accounts.
      In general, Lukashenko is neither bad nor good. It's just that he is a little outdated and people are a little tired of him.
    26. +1
      9 May 2020 01: 13
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Tell me, are these really attributes of Victory?

      No. It's simple STATE FLAG the country which is now called RUSSIAN FEDERATION

      Quote: EvilLion
      And what did we get from RB

      Chassis for mobile ICBMs. At a price of 64-65 million rubles apiece. The result is the Platform program, which will eventually put an end to such chassis. To whom will Belarus sell them ???? Ukraine? Poland? China? Or maybe North Korea?

      Quote: Bar1
      there is no quarantine in BelaRusi, which means that there is no pandemic, everyone is lying to us.

      What are they lying? That there are no sick? And what about the pandemic. We are used to flaunting buzzwords. If about weapons - necessarily "hypersound", if the disease - then a pandemic. It is called a pandemic due to the fact that there is not a single country in the world where there are no people with this infection.

      Quote: Egoza
      I would also add that the quality of the products is VERY high!

      But usually it does not stand up to competition with our products. More expensive than ours. Therefore, a number of Belorusskiye Produkty stores are closing down, unable to withstand competition.

      Quote: Chingachguk
      Remind me what sea is in Belarus?

      In geography, comrade, probably the deuce was, what are you asking such a question? Of course, Belarusian !!!! laughing
    27. 0
      16 June 2020 08: 35
      Where is Egorov? It became boring already. And so "the Second World War is not a Belarusian war." And don't say you didn't hear.
    28. 0
      26 June 2020 13: 57
      All this is lyricism, Belarus has its own elite and its oligarchs from power, there is no mention of social equality ..... therefore there is no need to raise a storm in a glass .... just the mentality is a little different .... everyone is quietly silent. ... lay new tiles, cut lawns and plant flowers ...

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