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US intends to extract resources on the moon without Russia

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US intends to extract resources on the moon without Russia

The United States intends to mine on the moon with the involvement of other countries, but without Russia. It is reported by Reuters with reference to its own sources.


According to the publication, the White House is preparing a draft new international treaty on mining on the moon. According to the document, the United States plans to attract “some countries” to production, but Russia, at least initially, will not be among them.

The agreement, called Artemis Accords, states that a “safety zone” will be created around each lunar base, the main task of which will be “preventing damage or interference from competing countries or companies operating in the immediate vicinity”. Also, the authors of the document intend to prescribe in it that companies engaged in mining operations become the owner of the resources. It is argued that there is no talk of any "territorial claims" on the lunar surface.

The idea is that if you are going to approach a place where someone is working, and they have established security zones around him, then you need to contact them in advance, consult and find out how you can do it safely for everyone

- writes the edition.

Although it is still a long way to the extraction of minerals on the Earth’s natural satellite, the United States intends to formally discuss this agreement in the near future and make a corresponding proposal to such countries as Canada, Japan, EU countries, and the UAE. Russia was not included in this list because the Pentagon views it as a "probable adversary in space."
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  1. georggy
    georggy 6 May 2020 09: 07 New
    24
    Let them first fly there and land there, and not in the Hollywood pavilion.
    1. marchcat
      marchcat 6 May 2020 09: 15 New
      19
      Particularly touches Canada, in this list of "space countries", as well as the AEO. It is clear that the latter are the sponsors of the project. fool
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 6 May 2020 09: 56 New
        -15
        That seems to be EVERYTHING: there will be no Roscosmos among the participants of the Gateway international near-moon orbital station.

        The good news: Rogozin pulled out the only chance to get out of the game with dignity - not breaking the deadlines and failing all the tasks, but being expelled for political reasons. The bad news: there will be no Russians in near-moon orbit, because there are no hopes that Roskosmos will pull it on their own.
        1. KAV
          KAV 6 May 2020 10: 21 New
          23
          Quote: military_cat
          That seems to be ALL

          Let's first wait until the United States reaches a circumlunar orbit, then we will say "EVERYTHING". In the meantime, these are just wet dreams of the United States and PR on a hackneyed topic.
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 6 May 2020 10: 25 New
            -7
            == You are here ==

            It was already, I saw it already. Once upon a time they wrote the same remarks about the launch of astronauts to the ISS on an American manned spacecraft, but now in the comments for the most part "well, it was foolish to think that sooner or later they would not make a manned spacecraft."
            1. KAV
              KAV 6 May 2020 10: 52 New
              +6
              Quote: military_cat
              It was already seen already. Once upon a time about the launch of astronauts to the ISS on an American manned spacecraft, the same remarks were written

              Do not confuse something with a finger. The ISS is not in lunar orbit. And then, how much time it took them to get to the ISS on their own ... And then fly to the moon. This is not the same for you.
              I'm not even talking about mining - it is absolutely not profitable. Except if only on the Moon there is something that we do not have on Earth.
              1. Kuroneko
                Kuroneko 6 May 2020 11: 15 New
                +2
                Quote: KAV
                Except if only on the Moon there is something that we do not have on Earth.

                Well, everyone has been raving about helium-3 for a long time. = _ =
                The moon, which has no atmosphere, retains significant amounts of helium-3 in the surface layer, according to some estimates up to 500 thousand tons, according to others - about 2,5 million tons [16].

                On Earth, you can do it, and the same United States do, but - MUCH!
                The average price of helium-3 in 2009 was, according to some estimates, about 930 USD per liter
                1. KAV
                  KAV 6 May 2020 11: 20 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Kuroneko
                  The average price of helium-3 in 2009 was, according to some estimates, about 930 USD per liter

                  Well so about what speech. Does shipping from the moon seem to be cheaper? )))
                  1. Kuroneko
                    Kuroneko 6 May 2020 11: 25 New
                    10
                    Quote: KAV
                    Does shipping from the moon seem to be cheaper? )))

                    There is more of a problem, as it were, not even in price, but in the very complexity of its creation. Despite the not too high price (a lot of rare-earth metals are more expensive by orders of magnitude) you can just do it on Earth well, very limited, literally in a couple of places with suitable infrastructure and equipment - but I want many, many.
                    Although this is all nonsense. The Yankees simply lay the straw in advance for a very distant future (and not a fact at all, what’s possible) so that it doesn’t turn out like the Arctic (once the USSR fussed in time, and now they bite their elbows).
                    1. hydrox
                      hydrox 6 May 2020 11: 56 New
                      +5
                      And what, is there Helium-3 in solid state?
                      But in general, it is necessary to liquefy it, but how will they do it if they have neither energy plutonium nor the same uranium for energy sources on the moon.
                      Of course, there is a version of the thorium cycle reactor, but I haven’t heard something about the Americans owning such technologies.
                      And now, let them try to fly to the Moon without titanium parts (amers also do not have such technology) and without our fissile materials.
                      1. Dikson
                        Dikson 6 May 2020 21: 10 New
                        -2
                        Russia is happy to sell titanium parts to the Americans .. Does it sell for a Boeing? And for the moon he’ll sell it. He’ll also kiss the gums of the Americans, maybe sanctions will weaken ..
                      2. hydrox
                        hydrox 6 May 2020 21: 24 New
                        +2
                        Very good badly.
                        You, apparently, did not pay attention to the fact that the Bretton Woods agreement passed away last month and America seemed to have lost the opportunity to collect petrodollars from all, and the IMF has fallen greatly in power - the process has not settled down yet, but by the fall it will gain strength and who knows, maybe the GDP has the guts to push the entire financial block of the Prospect and its departments for 15 years into camps led by Nabiulina, Yudaeva, Kostin and Gref together with the head of the Higher School of Economics - this is another 50 people.
                        So after all, and not only the Boeing can be landed ...
                      3. Dikson
                        Dikson 6 May 2020 21: 36 New
                        -4
                        To land a Boeing, you need to have something to replace it with. And when you find or build it, then there will immediately be problems with access to international transport .. - then make a lot of noise, then you will have the wrong fuel .. then there’s still some kind of certificate ..)) - we have been losing in this field for a very long time .. By the way, why is it still possible for the 76th, Ruslanam and Mrie to make noise and smoke in the overseas sky, and somehow 86 and 96 silt are not very possible? It is clear that they are economically losing to Boeing and watermelons, but it was the independence of our country's air connections ..
            2. grandfather_Kostya
              grandfather_Kostya 6 May 2020 12: 15 New
              +4
              Well, everyone has been raving about helium-3 for a long time.

              Helium-3 on Earth is still not needed, there is no ready-made technology for retaining thermonuclear plasma, and probably never will be. Wishlist is, there is no technology. By and large, on the moon, nothing worthy is known for the organization of a mining and processing enterprise or something like that.
              1. Kuroneko
                Kuroneko 6 May 2020 12: 22 New
                +1
                It is already quite successfully used for ultra-low temperatures.
                Would do more - already all supercomputers would have long ago begun to create with the expectation of superconductivity (and for quantum computers being developed now, this is generally necessary, otherwise the qubit will produce too many errors). For normal operation of qubits, a temperature of 20 milli Kelvin is needed, which just can give helium-3.
                Qubits require extremely gentle handling. Random noise and even random observation of a qubit can lead to data loss. For the stable operation of qubits, an extremely low ambient temperature is required - at the level of 20 milli Kelvin, which is 250 times colder than the temperature of outer space. Such temperature conditions impose the most stringent requirements on the design of the bodies of quantum systems, which include qubits. Striving to realize the full potential of quantum computing systems, Intel from the Component Research Group (CR) in Oregon and the Experimental Production Complex (ATTD) in Arizona are working hard to create innovative architectures and packages to meet the unique requirements and challenges of quantum computing systems.

                http://www.tadviser.ru/index.php/Статья:Квантовый_компьютер_и_квантовая_связь
                But yes, such a practical application is very limited. However - mainly because of the difficulty of obtaining.
          2. military_cat
            military_cat 6 May 2020 11: 41 New
            -4
            Quote: KAV
            Do not confuse something with a finger.
            All this has already happened. "Any swindler and charlatan can launch loads, but people are so great for you!"

            As for minerals, it is rather about regolith samples taken for research - to whom they will belong after mining and delivery to Earth. Mines on the moon and freight trains of missiles are fantasies that interpret this document to the best of their sobriety.
          3. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 6 May 2020 12: 27 New
            +3
            Quote: KAV
            Do not confuse something with a finger. The ISS is not in lunar orbit.

            In this case, you are confused. And for understanding, compare the program of moon exploration and its implementation of the United States and China with the Russian Federation. From this comparison, it should become clear to you that the Indians will fly to the Moon rather than Ragozin.
            1. Disant
              Disant 7 May 2020 15: 08 New
              0
              And for understanding, compare the program of moon exploration and its implementation of the United States and China with the Russian Federation. From this comparison, it should become clear to you that the Indians will fly to the Moon rather than Ragozin.

              if not difficult, in a nutshell, at least a few goals indicate - what is the program of moon exploration by Americans and Chinese
          4. RUSS
            RUSS 6 May 2020 22: 43 New
            -1
            Quote: KAV
            I'm not even talking about mining - it is absolutely not profitable. Except if only on the Moon there is something that we do not have on Earth.

            Are you an expert on this topic? If yes, then please read more about non-benefits
            1. Disant
              Disant 7 May 2020 15: 36 New
              0
              you don’t need to be an expert - even if I conjure you a ton of gold lying in a heap of bullion, on a cart on the surface of the Moon in a very good place to land, I conjure a finished American rocket from the 60s with a system of landing and returning from the Moon (well, or modern , which is about to finish its work and supposedly will soon fly to the moon) -
              a ton of gold costs 3 billion rubles, or about 150 million dollars.
              Whereas
              $ 25,4 billion multiply by 7- The total cost of the Apollo project from 1960 to 1973.
              $ 355 million multiply by 7- the cost of Apollo 11 alone.
              $ 185 million multiply by 7- the cost of the Saturn-5 rocket, which sent astronauts to the moon.
              Today’s American lunar program only lunar flag sticking - already under 30 billion, the launch of one rocket - under one and a half billion dollars !! and this is not the limit, but only the beginning. But here, apparently, political goals
        2. radiootdel4
          radiootdel4 6 May 2020 13: 37 New
          +1
          That fly on a manned, and then comment
      2. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 6 May 2020 10: 53 New
        -10
        The US has a satellite operating right now flying around the moon
        1. KAV
          KAV 6 May 2020 10: 55 New
          -1
          Quote: BlackMokona
          The US has a satellite operating right now flying around the moon

          AND? Not only the United States has such satellites. So what?
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 6 May 2020 10: 59 New
            -11
            The fact that they are already in moon orbit can be obtained without people.
            1. KAV
              KAV 6 May 2020 11: 04 New
              +7
              Quote: BlackMokona
              The fact that they are already in moon orbit can be obtained without people.

              Thank! You have amused me. :)
            2. forpost
              forpost 6 May 2020 11: 11 New
              +2
              Che, they made a toilet for themselves, no? Extractors damn it.
              1. Blackmokona
                Blackmokona 6 May 2020 11: 14 New
                -6
                There was also a toilet on Skylab, and there were American-made toilets in the shuttles. On the ISS, it’s Russian, because Russia managed to conclude an agreement on maintenance and repair of the toilet.
                https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5b3b92829a79475ba0c7a25a
                1. forpost
                  forpost 6 May 2020 11: 17 New
                  +1
                  There, in the same article, NASA ordered a toilet from RSC Energia in 2007, the amount of the contract was $ 19 million.
                  https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5b3b92829a79475ba0c7a25a
                  1. Blackmokona
                    Blackmokona 6 May 2020 11: 18 New
                    -10
                    So you think ours would repair and clean the American-made toilet in the American segment?
                    I also claimed that the Russian ISS is
                    On the ISS Russian stands,
                  2. slipped
                    slipped 6 May 2020 11: 23 New
                    +3
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    So you think ours would repair and clean the American-made toilet in the American segment?
                    I also claimed that the Russian ISS is
                    On the ISS Russian stands,


                    I already told you earlier that your "repair and cleaning" does not correspond to reality, all repairs boil down to the supply of replaceable elements on the "Progress MS", the astronauts themselves clean their toilet.
                  3. Blackmokona
                    Blackmokona 6 May 2020 11: 24 New
                    -10
                    The service includes cleaning, if not then the link. And not allegations as last time.
                    Since replacement of spare parts is repair
                  4. slipped
                    slipped 6 May 2020 11: 27 New
                    -1
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    The service includes cleaning, if not then the link. And not allegations as last time


                    For a normal conversation with the astronaut, over a cup of coffee, the link is not able to give lol But if you search, you will probably find.
                  5. hydrox
                    hydrox 6 May 2020 12: 03 New
                    0
                    At the same time, let him give a link to drill holes in the casing ...
      3. Graduate student
        Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 34 New
        14
        Quote: forpost
        Che, they made a toilet for themselves, no?

        good They have diapers for this case. laughing
    2. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 6 May 2020 11: 19 New
      +6
      Quote: BlackMokona
      The fact that they are already in moon orbit can be obtained without people.

      By teleportation or telekinesis?
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 6 May 2020 11: 20 New
        -6
        Using similar missiles
        1. forpost
          forpost 6 May 2020 11: 27 New
          +5
          is it flying
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 6 May 2020 11: 29 New
            -7
            So far, only prototypes and low, but the work is actively going
          2. forpost
            forpost 6 May 2020 11: 31 New
            -1
            We are also actively working to ensure hyperinflation in the near future, we can’t wait
          3. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 6 May 2020 11: 31 New
            -2
            There are always risks, but while there is an extremely active work going on.
      2. Graduate student
        Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 35 New
        16
        Quote: forpost
        is it flying

        In Hollywood movies flies
    3. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 6 May 2020 11: 33 New
      +4
      How can a rocket get something? But this is so, a rhetorical question (for sure, the moon scoop will be added there, and even a log for self-digging).
      Let's just look at the cost of building, launching, and returning such a rocket. Let's even suppose that an artificial idiot can even fill the hold not with empty rock, but with the same helium-3. Well, for everything, a maximum of 10 tons of carrying capacity. And then let's estimate how much bubble was spent on the rocket, and what "profit" came from it. A dozen of such "mining lunar works", where robots are "injecting" - and NASA will go around the world with empty pockets.
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 6 May 2020 11: 37 New
        -6
        This rocket has a payload of 100 tons from the surface. They also promise a very low price due to mass production and complete reusability.
      2. Kuroneko
        Kuroneko 6 May 2020 11: 55 New
        +9
        Quote: BlackMokona
        This rocket has a payload of 100 tons from the surface.

        And now we minus:
        1) fuel. 100 tons is good, of course, but it's just taking off from the EARTH. And to land on the moon, and then "fall off" and land? It's all many tons additional (and by no means expensive) fuel, which you will have to take with you at the start.
        2) iron robotic trash (which, as I understand it, and will have to deal with mining). By the way, he will need fuel too. Photocells in mining can not do, the required power for orders higher. And you will have to carry stuff with each flight - for the equipment has the property to wear out and fail. Moreover, robotics is still very imperfect.
        So in fact more than 10 tons of cargo hold will not be. I initially wondered about a superheavy rocket - and one tenth of the free weight is still fucking generous.
        They also promise a very low price due to mass production and complete reusability.

        We also promised communism under Khrushchev.
      3. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 6 May 2020 13: 01 New
        -6
        1) 100 tons of PN. Excluding fuel.
        2) Nuclear reactors.
        3) While this figure was performing hangers
      4. Kuroneko
        Kuroneko 6 May 2020 13: 18 New
        +4
        Quote: BlackMokona
        1) 100 tons of PN. Excluding fuel.

        I talked about fuel above. You confuse the payload with the starting one. Starting - it is ONLY for starting. One. From the surface of the earth. All tons of additional fuel (for which it will be required - I wrote above) will eat just the useful. Plus mining stuff.
        There is still a moment ... how to fix it all, how to fix it all WITHOUT the participation of people - the task is currently unsolvable. But suppose, thanks to your faith in the Americans and the Mask, they will somehow overcome.
        But here someone mentioned nuclear reactors, ne? Only Russia has the technology to create compact nuclear mini-reactors. The Yankees also did something in this direction, but their results are MUCH worse (damn, they couldn’t even do a normal centrifugation to enrich uranium - with an available theoretical base, and still use an expensive and much less effective diffusion method).
        This figure is so good at keeping promises that Tesla Corporation has long been in debt like silk. It is kept afloat only by the faith of suckers-investors (well, really, there is no other way to pick up an epithet), that ALL THE FOLLOWERS pour money into it.
        By the way, Hyperloop on a ball called Dirt also somehow still is not detected. = _ =
      5. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 6 May 2020 14: 11 New
        -4
        In general, NASA has long introduced the compact nuclear reactors for work in space, KillPower
        NASA tested a space nuclear reactor

        NASA, with the support of the U.S. National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA), tested the Kilopower power plant, which is designed to provide energy to future American bases on the moon and Mars, as well as spacecraft for missions to the farthest corners of the solar system.

        https://images2.popmeh.ru/upload/img_cache/8c3/8c328c58bc3e9a0fd3ef9c32c4566825_ce_1920x1024x0x448_cropped_800x427.jpg
        Tesla has been showing net profit for the third quarter in a row.
        And as I have already pointed out here, two companies unrelated to the Mask are engaged in hyperloop
      6. Kuroneko
        Kuroneko 6 May 2020 14: 46 New
        +3
        Quote: BlackMokona
        In general, NASA has long introduced the compact nuclear reactors for work in space, KillPower

        Great! Generally speaking, no. My thesis about the US lag in this area remains valid. Now let's imagine how someone will entrust robots to transfer, install, and launch it. I don’t even mention such a trifle as anti-traditional protection - which is simply obligatory by default, at least to a minimum, if you carry a small, but nuclear reactor in a rocket. Lead will be heavier than chromium vanadium.
        Quote: BlackMokona
        If it is the third quarter in a row, it shows net profit.

        If you do not know how to analyze the real profitability of companies - better and do not panic. There is fiction on fiction. As they say, it can be considered in different ways. Our GosStat also mastered this science a long time ago and according to his reports, we are all almost in the Maldives in general, like skating in cheese. Check out this one better. honest analytics (August 2019, since then much has not had time to change, and this is ironic): https://bcs-express.ru/novosti-i-analitika/analiz-emitenta-tesla-stoit-li-pokupat-bumagi
        It also tells why Tesla returned to herself view well-being. I will even hint:

        The company does not pay dividends and does not implement buyback programs. This is not yet part of her medium-term plans. There is nothing to be surprised at, because Tesla is still a conditionally promising story of "growth" rather than "income." In early May, the company raised $ 2,7 billion through an additional issue of shares and the placement of convertible bonds. In the future, it is impossible to exclude new steps to raise funds that the business has not yet generated on an ongoing basis.

        And this year Tesla will fly to the bottom, mark my word. Quarantines simply cannot but affect it.
      7. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 6 May 2020 15: 22 New
        -5
        1) Well, so the USSR shoved nuclear reactors on satellites and flew, there alone fell to Canada and nothing.
        2) So why should Tesla pay dividends if she has Napoleonic plans for expansion? Dividends pay companies reaching the ceiling of their growth.
        3) Tesla has 8 billion cache in his pocket at the moment, Musk is very well prepared for shocks
      8. andrew42
        andrew42 7 May 2020 10: 34 New
        +1
        Bravo! "Dividends are paid to companies that reach their growth ceiling." A phrase worthy of Mr. Barnes from The Hoe of Destiny. As far as I understand, Tesla does not have a ceiling, so dividends (yes, yes, there is also the letter D in English) are expected in 50 years, that is, never.
      9. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 7 May 2020 12: 21 New
        -1
        See how it works
        $ 19.2 was worth Tesla shares at the time of their issue when investors bought them in 2010. Now they cost $ 782, to whom more than 4000% of the profit can sell their shares. While Tesla is growing and the price of its shares
      10. andrew42
        andrew42 7 May 2020 12: 37 New
        +1
        Sale of shares is not a dividend on shares. From the word, absolutely. This is income from financial activities - bought shares / sold shares. This is not even "interest", that is, not interest on loans / credits issued. Anyone who has ever dealt with IFRS will say this. Call things by their proper names. It doesn't smell like dividends.
      11. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 7 May 2020 12: 47 New
        -1
        So I explain to you why dividends naf are not needed by a growing company and why investors absolutely do not care how many years the company will grow. They still get their profit
      12. andrew42
        andrew42 7 May 2020 14: 59 New
        +1
        And here you have a stickiness. A growing company is a company that increases the volume of products / services provided, and has a stable income growth (incam). Capitalization growth by attracting additional investment. - this is not yet the growth of the company. No, you can, of course, talk about "growth". But only as long as the attracted investments are not eaten up again, and the "turnover" again does not shrink to a critical minimum. Moreover, all this is happening against the backdrop of the "hostage syndrome" among investors who have managed to invest in the project and desperately hope that they are "about to start working" without taking crumbs of what was really poured in. And about the sale of shares. - these are "Dutch tulips", while there is PR - they grow, and then ... who knows. If you rise above the forest, it is a no brainer that Tesla cannot determine the break-even point. This time. Plus, transnational oil and gas concerns have not been canceled, and in order to oppose their interests in the market, a fairly close break-even point is needed. These are two. Well, the fact that the oil and gas magnates are not particularly concerned about Tesla's affairs speaks precisely of the MMM nature of this project.
      13. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 7 May 2020 19: 00 New
        -1
        So Tesla has a fast revenue growth.
        https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Tesla_Financial_Performance.svg/400px-Tesla_Financial_Performance.svg.png
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  3. Disant
    Disant 7 May 2020 16: 18 New
    0
    you already there, at them, specify - all the same, mass production or reusability. Let them decide.
    .
    Yes, I also really want to take a look at the cobblestone of 100 tons, landing in parts on the resurrected shuttles from museums - and they, mind you, do not take much down - five tons down, and that’s it. A flight near the ground will cost (without taking into account the cost of overload in orbit and the work of loaders, and the total cost of servicing the shuttle) - under 500 million dollars.
    !!! attention - That is, even five tons of pure gold (750 mln.doll), MATERIALIZED FROM THE BLACK HOLE IN ONE PIECE IN NEAR EARTH ORBIT - they will not pay for the shuttle flight to deliver it to the ground
  4. Blackmokona
    Blackmokona 7 May 2020 19: 01 New
    0
    Mass production and reusability at the same time, together with a large payload.
  5. Disant
    Disant 7 May 2020 23: 17 New
    +1
    BlackMokona, it was a question that could not be answered. This is irony, or even sarcasm.
    You had to be born fifty years ago than you are.
    There is no reusability at this stage of your and my life! This is all noodles in the ears. No data on reusability, even at the present stage of life, is not laid out! There is data on the shuttle (so-called reusable), which made it publicly available - 450-500 million flights + 1.3 billion dollars for servicing 20 flights (closer to the 2000s, that is, at the end of the program, the cheapest). and these are only near-Earth movements.
    .
    And let's say a fairy waved her wand - what mass production? tomorrow you will run to lay your apartment for the sake of faith in the bright future of mankind? Ahh, no, not you, but that eccentric rich man from the Forbes list?
    30 flights a year were laid under the shuttle, and as a result, it drove on secondary tasks once 5-6 a year. The whole world worked on the shuttle, feeding America through banking and other systems, lowering itself.
    and what are you going to mass-build - pictures that carry imaginary resources from the moon?
    .
    There are no nuclear reactors in space, and there were none - these were samples of nuclear batteries (3-5kW) feeding a "computer", radar, communications, and at a crucial moment they could put into execution some kind of starting mechanism - but not a propulsion device. A small nuclear battery fell on the Canadians' heads.
    Above in the text, Kuroneko posted an excellent picture for you.
  • Graduate student
    Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 35 New
    16
    Quote: Kuroneko
    By teleportation or telekinesis?

    Telepathy method yes bully
  • Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 12: 42 New
    +3
    Quote: BlackMokona
    The fact that they are already in moon orbit can be obtained without people.

    ?!
    Well, in orbit and how they will be mined ?!
    1. Graduate student
      Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 36 New
      16
      Quote: Barmaleyka
      Well, in orbit and how they will be mined ?!

      Mentally. Mentally, they will get something there, well, also with the help of Hollywoodyes
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 6 May 2020 12: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: KAV
    Let's first wait until the United States reaches a circumlunar orbit, then we will say "EVERYTHING"

    Of our compatriots, only Dunno visited the Moon, Ragozin also promised, but a rubber drive was stolen from under his nose and he shifted the deadline to the right.
  • 4ekist
    4ekist 6 May 2020 14: 41 New
    0
    We have already heard something about the extraction of resources on asteroids, now the Moon, then "black holes" in the future.
  • Ham
    Ham 7 May 2020 21: 49 New
    +1
    reaching a circumlunar orbit is not even "half the battle" ... this is just the very beginning ...
    1. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber 8 May 2020 04: 05 New
      +1
      This "beginning" was achieved in 1959. Responded to Luna-3. Repeated two-digit number of times - starting from 100500 years ago.
  • Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 12: 36 New
    0
    Quote: military_cat
    The bad news: there will be no Russians in near-moon orbit, because there are no hopes that Roskosmos will pull it on their own.

    and if so, how will you ask for forgiveness ?!
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 6 May 2020 13: 29 New
      0
      I’ll take a mortgage and buy a ticket for one tourist space flight from Rogozin.
      1. slipped
        slipped 6 May 2020 20: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: military_cat
        I’ll take a mortgage and buy a ticket for one tourist space flight from Rogozin.


        Then only in the queue - tickets for Soyuz MS-20 and Soyuz MS-23 have already been bought by other mortgage holders, and NASA is also trying to grab a reservation in advance in case of force majeure laughing So "in line ... children in line" lol
        1. military_cat
          military_cat 6 May 2020 21: 23 New
          0
          It's okay, I'm not very worried - for obvious reasons.
          1. slipped
            slipped 6 May 2020 22: 10 New
            -1
            Quote: military_cat
            It's okay, I'm not very worried - for obvious reasons.


            Disability? lol Are you worried that a pandemic will not allow it?
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 6 May 2020 22: 14 New
              -3
              Quote: slipped
              Disability? lol
              Do you like jokes about people with disabilities?
              1. slipped
                slipped 7 May 2020 00: 42 New
                +1
                Quote: military_cat
                Quote: slipped
                Disability? lol
                Do you like jokes about people with disabilities?


                Did I joke? if a person wants to take a mortgage to buy a ticket into space, he is simply sick ... on his head laughing
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 6 May 2020 22: 48 New
          -1
          Quote: slipped
          Then only in the queue - tickets for the Soyuz MS-20 and Soyuz MS-23 have already been bought by other mortgage holders, and NASA is also trying to grab a reservation in advance in case of force majeure. So “in the queue ... children, in queue"

          A year, a maximum of two and the Americans will not fly to the Unions
          1. slipped
            slipped 7 May 2020 00: 56 New
            +2
            Quote: RUSS
            Quote: slipped
            Then only in the queue - tickets for the Soyuz MS-20 and Soyuz MS-23 have already been bought by other mortgage holders, and NASA is also trying to grab a reservation in advance in case of force majeure. So “in the queue ... children, in queue"

            A year, a maximum of two and the Americans will not fly to the Unions


            There will be in a year or two and further ... and not only the Americans - while the "Soyuz MS" will be in operation. An excellent, reliable and fast transport ship.
  • radiootdel4
    radiootdel4 6 May 2020 13: 28 New
    0
    military_cat Let's just fall into despair with a cry "Everything is lost, Rogozin / Putin (substitute the right thing) is to blame."
    But this phrase: "Seems like EVERYTHING" ... evokes its continuation "remain simpler" .. - you are not from there for an hour, not from the shore of Svidomo bone?
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 6 May 2020 13: 31 New
      +2
      I do not know this phrase, but here you somehow know it, it is very suspicious ... what
  • RUSS
    RUSS 6 May 2020 23: 08 New
    -1
    Quote: military_cat
    Here, it seems, and EVERYTHING: there will be no Roscosmos among the participants of Gateway

    And a couple of years ago, Putin said, “Russia is not going to curtail international cooperation in the space sphere.” We are not going to break anything here, withdraw from these programs, we intend to finish. After all, we have partners there on the Moon, and then, on the study of Mars, there is the United States, Canada, Japan, the European Union, "he listed. There are technologies, desire, and financial capabilities." We will implement all these plans, they are interesting, necessary both for the country and for all mankind, "he concluded.
    1. Disant
      Disant 7 May 2020 16: 33 New
      0
      military_cat
      Here, it seems, and EVERYTHING: there will be no Roscosmos among the participants of Gateway

      And a couple of years ago, Putin said, “Russia is not going to curtail international cooperation in the space sphere.” We are not going to break anything here, to leave

      And what have we got to do with this - the Americans are curtailing the lunar program to the next flag stick, which, most likely, will not be either. The Americans are not going to build any moonlight orbital stations of Gateway - but the pictures are beautiful. They understood all the nonsense of their ventures and include the back. It's a pity
      https://www.space.com/nasa-remove-lunar-gateway-artemis-critical-path.html[quote][/quote]
  • Blackmokona
    Blackmokona 6 May 2020 10: 53 New
    -4
    Canada has more GDP than Russia and a high-tech economy
    1. +5
      +5 6 May 2020 12: 11 New
      0
      Now about the raw materials appendage Canada (as well as Australia) has blared out loud ... As well as about the size of GDP ...
      1. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 6 May 2020 13: 03 New
        +4
        GDP
        11 Canada 1712
        12 Russia 1657
        Export Canada
        Export Articles
        Automobiles and components, machine tools, aircraft, telecommunications equipment, chemicals, plastics, fertilizers, cellulose, crude oil, electricity, aluminum
        1. +5
          +5 6 May 2020 19: 23 New
          0
          Who is watching GDP at face value? By PPP Russia approx. 4 trawls and German equals ...
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 6 May 2020 20: 01 New
            +1
            Look, there’s a Chinese car, and there’s a German car. One quality is shit, the other is high. The nominal value of GDP says that’s how much they cost, we will write down so much in the GDP.
            And PPP says that you need to write the same number.
            And the same goes for everything.
            Sausage from meat and sausage from soy, for PPP it is one product at the same price.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 6 May 2020 15: 21 New
      0
      Quote: BlackMokona
      Canada has more GDP than Russia and a high-tech economy

      If by high-tech economy we mean exchange transactions (pumping zeros in a computer to and fro), then yes, higher.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 6 May 2020 11: 11 New
    +3
    Quote: marchcat
    Particularly touches Canada, in this list of "space countries", as well as the AEO. It is clear that the latter are the sponsors of the project. fool

    Is China also not on the list?
    In my opinion, the Chinese on this
    they won’t worry about it.
    They have their own space program. Own satellite system, own orbital station. And the moon, I have no doubt, the Chinese will fly before the brave astronauts from
    NASA.
  • opus
    opus 6 May 2020 13: 06 New
    +4
    Quote: marchcat
    Particularly touches Canada, in this list of "space countries"

    I will remind
    Shuttle Remote Manipulator System (SRMS) / Canadarm

    Canadarm2

    Alpha Particle X-ray Spectrometer (APXS) at Curiosity

    and the UAE:
    investments in space technology have exceeded $ 5,4 billion since the creation (2014) of the UAE Space Agency.

    In the long run, the state plans to build an inhabited city on Mars (by 2117). In preparation for September 2017, the UAE announced the Mars Science City project. The area of ​​the "city" will be more than 170 thousand square meters, and the cost is about 136 million dollars. Mars Science City will be the largest space city to be built on Earth and become a viable model for future use on Mars.

    KhalifaSat is the first Arab satellite, 100% made by the hands of the emirates
    1. slipped
      slipped 6 May 2020 20: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: opus
      In the long run, the state plans ...


      And in the near term - to pay part of the reconstruction of the Gagarin launch under the new Russian modification of the Union-2 and begin joint commercial launches with Russia and Kazakhstan.

      Quote: opus
      KhalifaSat is the first Arab satellite, 100% made by the hands of the emirates


      Designed by their engineers on South Korean tracing paper laughing
  • Graduate student
    Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 33 New
    10
    Quote: marchcat
    Particularly touches Canada

    Canada is a great space outsider yes
  • RUSS
    RUSS 6 May 2020 22: 40 New
    0
    Quote: marchcat
    Particularly touches Canada, in this list of "space countries"

    Canada has a pretty decent space agency, so no la-la.
  • Civil
    Civil 6 May 2020 09: 20 New
    +4
    Well, whoever has the money does that. We are waiting for Rogozin's powerful answer about the lunar base with an indoor pool and a trampoline.
    1. Charik
      Charik 6 May 2020 09: 51 New
      0
      and gold villas and intergalactic yachts
  • Timon2155
    Timon2155 6 May 2020 09: 38 New
    +4
    While there is no leap in the development of rocket engines, they will not produce anything. 1kg round trip shipping price is too high. To get, not to go to the store. It will be necessary to transport hundreds of thousands (millions?) Tons: equipment, people, household blocks, etc. Cut the dough.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 6 May 2020 10: 15 New
      +7
      US intends to extract resources on the moon without Russia

      It was as if Russia had intentions to mine these with the USA ... recourse request

      Now how now without them? request what
      1. g_ae
        g_ae 6 May 2020 10: 30 New
        +7
        In fact, Russia is only engaged in that which produces and sells its resources for the United States, for China, for Europe. Yes for anyone. So why are the states on the moon such a mediator? Everything is logical.
        That is, they "optimized" Russia. They can count it. So they counted. And any Russian should treat optimization with understanding. Nothing personal just business.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 6 May 2020 15: 25 New
      -1
      Quote: Timon2155
      While there is no leap in the development of rocket engines, they won’t produce anything

      What leap, what are you talking about? Someone (we will not name names, although these are those that have already been visited laughing ), they cannot even repeat the old.
  • Vol4ara
    Vol4ara 6 May 2020 10: 28 New
    0
    Quote: george
    Let them first fly there and land there, and not in the Hollywood pavilion.

    They have already been there
    1. KAV
      KAV 6 May 2020 11: 09 New
      -5
      Quote: Vol4ara
      They have already been there

      Of course! And not even once! Only now, then the film ended, and the rent for the pavilion began to beat affordably.
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 6 May 2020 15: 02 New
        0
        Quote: KAV
        Quote: Vol4ara
        They have already been there

        Of course! And not even once! Only now, then the film ended, and the rent for the pavilion began to beat affordably.

        What film?
    2. Snail N9
      Snail N9 6 May 2020 11: 38 New
      -1
      Everyone is laughing ... Well, well.
      Here it is necessary to think about it seriously:
      On May 5, 2020, China successfully launched a test version of a new type of Chinese spacecraft using the Long March-5B launch vehicle (Long March 5B, Changzheng-5B) from the Wenchang Cosmodrome (Hainan Province, South China). This is stated in the message of the PRC Manned Space Flight Program.
      "According to the Office of the China Manned Space Flight Program, on May 5, 2020 at 18:00 (13:00 Moscow time), the Changzheng-5B carrier rocket was launched from the Wenchang cosmodrome in China with a test version of a new type of manned spacecraft and a prototype a cargo return capsule, "the message says. "After about 488 seconds, the unmanned] prototype of a manned spacecraft, along with a test version of the recoverable capsule, successfully detached from the rocket, entered the intended orbit. The mission was recognized as successful," the statement said.
      It also notes that "the successful launch of the rocket has laid a solid foundation for the creation of a Chinese orbiting space station," which is scheduled for completion in 2022. It is expected that "Changzheng-5B" will be used to launch the base module of the station into low-earth orbit.


      And in Russia, all "temples" are being built ....
      1. slipped
        slipped 7 May 2020 01: 26 New
        -1
        Quote: Snail N9
        Everyone is laughing ... Well, well. Here it is necessary to think about it seriously:


        Seriously? Well, let's

        Quote: Snail N9
        On May 5, 2020, China successfully launched a test version of a new type of Chinese spacecraft ....


        We launched the second layout with indistinct goals. Clearly for some kind of flight design tests. You can ask the question - Why now?

        China has Shenzhou flown all-nothing times, which is much cheaper and has much more comfortable conditions inside - the same orbital module. China is planning to build its Tianhe space station the size of the ISS RS just to serve it with the Shenzhou and Tianzhou ships. Why now do they need a new very expensive (this can be seen on the rocket) ship? To use it as a freight and freight truck to carry something from the station once every six months in the future to the ground? Well, it will be no earlier than in four years.



        Most likely this launch now is a banal demonstration that "they shmogut too." In plan - to the moon. Like Russia or the United States. A kind of application from China, like this Trump one.

        Quote: Snail N9
        "According to the data .... The mission has been recognized as successful," the statement said.


        Firstly, the prototype of the reentry vehicle has not yet sat down to recognize the "mission as successful", and secondly, the second payload is there - a copy of our inflatable braking device that flew earlier at the beginning of the XNUMXs, they most likely lost it during landing.

        Quote: Snail N9
        It is expected that Changzheng-5B will be used to launch the station's base module into low-earth orbit.


        It’s just understandable - they’ll produce statistics before a responsible launch. Well done.
    3. Graduate student
      Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 36 New
      14
      Quote: Vol4ara
      They have already been there

      This is not proven by anyone.
      1. Vol4ara
        Vol4ara 6 May 2020 15: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: Graduate student
        Quote: Vol4ara
        They have already been there

        This is not proven by anyone.

        It is proved and it is recognized by all and the USSR as well. This is an obvious thing, not obvious only to the ignorant. If, when discussing the results of the lunar race, you begin to feel discomfort below the back belt, then this is not a problem for the Americans, but your personal
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 6 May 2020 11: 21 New
    0
    Quote: george
    Let them first fly there and land there, and not in the Hollywood pavilion.

    Something like this, and everyone knows that for RPG cosmonauts one of the most dangerous factors on the Earth-Moon communications route. But the Apollo did not fly to the Moon, they circled in a low reference orbit, being protected by the Earth's magnetosphere, simulating a flight to the Moon, and received radiation doses of normal orbital flight. And when a person can safely land on the Moon, and even more so work, even Jules Verne could not fantasize, well, Trump is not even close to Jules Verne.
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 6 May 2020 15: 19 New
      +2
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Quote: george
      Let them first fly there and land there, and not in the Hollywood pavilion.

      Something like this, and everyone knows that for RPG cosmonauts one of the most dangerous factors on the Earth-Moon communications route. But the Apollo did not fly to the Moon, they circled in a low reference orbit, being protected by the Earth's magnetosphere, simulating a flight to the Moon, and received radiation doses of normal orbital flight. And when a person can safely land on the Moon, and even more so work, even Jules Verne could not fantasize, well, Trump is not even close to Jules Verne.

      My uncle threw pieces of uranium from the machine room with a shovel, last summer they went with him on spearfishing to Don. Good luck with your theory ...
    2. Zementbomber
      Zementbomber 8 May 2020 04: 15 New
      +1
      when a person can safely land on the moon, and even more so work, even Jules Verne could not fantasize, well, Trump is not even close to Jules Verne.

      A simple desperate and stupidly rushing "into battle" powerlessness ... That's just ... - in the world nobody cares about it (except for fans of Slavic Humor) and it doesn't matter at all ... laughing
  • To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 6 May 2020 12: 18 New
    +1
    SOI was already !! Where is she in the us ??
    And this lunar gamble of America has the same goal - to drive Russia into financial costs and thereby darn its economic development ..
    1. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 6 May 2020 12: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: To be or not to be
      SOI was already !! Where is she in the us ??

      She is already again there is! ^ _ ^
      https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2019-01-18/Times-Tramp-ukrepit-oboronu-SSHA
      Sleep well, comrade. The old bluff in a new way continues, hee hee.
    2. orionvitt
      orionvitt 6 May 2020 15: 28 New
      0
      Quote: To be or not to be
      this lunar gamble of America has the same goal - to drive Russia into financial costs and thereby darn its economic development ..

      It was already, the second time only complete idiots attack the rake.
    3. 4ekist
      4ekist 6 May 2020 20: 13 New
      +1
      With our government, the United States does not need any "lunar adventure".
  • Graduate student
    Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 32 New
    12
    Quote: george
    Let them first fly there and land there, and not in the Hollywood pavilion

    laughing
    Hollywood in the space race rules
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 6 May 2020 15: 13 New
    -2
    Quote: george
    Let them first fly there and land there

    Let their astronauts, at least get to orbit, without the help of the "gas station country". laughing
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 6 May 2020 22: 54 New
      -1
      Quote: orionvitt
      Quote: george
      Let them first fly there and land there

      Let their astronauts, at least get to orbit, without the help of the "gas station country". laughing

      Very soon, wait for the cheers patriot!

      The first astronaut launch on the ISS in 10 years, which will take place in the United States, is scheduled for May 27 at 16:32 (23:32 Moscow time) from the launch pad in the Kennedy Space Center. The SpaceX Crew Dragon will be delivered to the ISS by the Falcon 9 rocket. On board will be two NASA astronauts Doug Hurley and Bob Behnken. Despite the coronavirus pandemic, the space agency did not cancel the launch. Watch this landmark event will be possible online, but previously it was assumed that the launch will bring together thousands of spectators. A limited number of journalists will be allowed to start. The mission will be the first test flight of the SpaceX spacecraft with crew on board.
      1. slipped
        slipped 7 May 2020 01: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: RUSS
        The first astronaut launch on the ISS in 10 years, which will take place in the United States, is scheduled for May 27 at 16:32 (23:32 Moscow time) from the launch pad in the Kennedy Space Center.


        Well, it’s necessary - they jumped on a trampoline for 10 years. lol Good off-budget funding for Roscosmos.

        Quote: RUSS
        The SpaceX Crew Dragon will be delivered to the ISS by the Falcon 9 rocket. On board will be two NASA astronauts Doug Hurley and Bob Behnken.


        Two laughing The neighbor will not let you get bored, he will take an entertaining story while they are flying, but for three you won’t even figure it out, if that. laughing

        Quote: RUSS
        Despite the coronavirus pandemic, the space agency did not cancel the launch.


        Has anyone canceled them before? laughing The Soyuz MS-16 departed earlier on schedule.

        Quote: RUSS
        Watch this landmark event online


        And, the coronavirus has nevertheless left behind and spoiled the "epoch-making event", you bastard! laughing

        Quote: RUSS
        The mission will be the first test flight of the SpaceX spacecraft with crew on board.


        Good luck. Stop jumping on the trampoline already.
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt 7 May 2020 14: 13 New
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        Very soon, wait for the cheers patriot!

        Very soon, this is not the answer, but the wet dreams of mattress toppers like you. Everyone knows what is scheduled for May 27. But only such "realists" as you believe in it. Let's see how this venture ends. Something tells me that the next postponement. The reason will be found, do not worry. Russia at least flies, the states do not. Also "conquerors of the moon" laughing carries to the station. That's all you need to know about "hurray patriotism."
        Watch this landmark event
        My God. An ordinary flight into orbit, which has been a common routine for the "gas station country" for 60 years, has become landmark event laughing Do not disgrace.
  • RUSS
    RUSS 6 May 2020 22: 36 New
    -1
    Quote: george
    Let them first fly there and land there, and not in the Hollywood pavilion.

    And the Earth is flat, right?
  • Zementbomber
    Zementbomber 8 May 2020 04: 01 New
    +1
    Do you really think that the opinion of Russians about the Apollo Program (as well as other US space programs) - at least someone in the world cares and at least on something - affects? laughing laughing
  • Thrall
    Thrall 6 May 2020 09: 07 New
    15
    Then the forester came and dispersed all the fuck smile
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 6 May 2020 09: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: Thrall
      Then the forester came and dispersed all the fuck

      There Khrushchev has long taken everything under the corn! laughing
  • Operator
    Operator 6 May 2020 09: 09 New
    0
    Like landing on the moon and declaring a "security zone" around the landing point with a diameter of the moon itself laughing
    1. knn54
      knn54 6 May 2020 09: 26 New
      +4
      - At the same time, it is argued that there is no talk of any "territorial claims" on the lunar surface.
      Perhaps. As always, we are talking about "Oneness".
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  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 6 May 2020 09: 13 New
    +1
    however, Russia, at least initially, will not be among them.
    So I think that when Russia starts something on the moon really, unlike the US, to do, then they will apply themselves, like "out of grace."
  • yfast
    yfast 6 May 2020 09: 13 New
    +2
    You can’t get it there, there the Moon has already been bought up for hacienda.
    1. KCA
      KCA 6 May 2020 09: 24 New
      +3
      Long before the Americans landed on the moon, if this, nevertheless, was in reality, pennants with the emblem of the USSR were delivered to the moon, the successor of the USSR is Russia, so that she and the owner of the moon, and you can sell anything, there was one specialist, who sold the Eiffel Tower, the main thing that was found to buy
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 6 May 2020 12: 13 New
      +5
      "The territory has no ownership until the foot of an infantryman steps on it" (A.V. Suvorov)
      1. Zementbomber
        Zementbomber 8 May 2020 04: 24 New
        +1
        not "infantryman", а "grenadier". At the time of the Prince, Count and Generalissimo Alexander Vasilich - the generalized concept of "infantryman" - there was no ISSHO.
        But with a probability of 146% wangyu - the first "infantryman" to set foot on the surface of the moon - will become the "marina" of the United States Marine Corps (KMP in Russian translations). bully
    3. orionvitt
      orionvitt 6 May 2020 15: 32 New
      0
      The states do not respect private property. The moon has long been owned by Dennis Hope (and under the laws of the United States), and Trump did not ask permission for him. laughing
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 8 May 2020 06: 04 New
        0
        And we don’t care who holds the paper written out in the underpass at Mayakovsky. laughing
  • rocket757
    rocket757 6 May 2020 09: 17 New
    +7
    Discuss, actually NOTHING!
    We must not build plans, but WORK to achieve our goals!
    In this case, how? Who is late, he will not get slippers !!!
    By the way, on many other topics, the same thing!
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 May 2020 09: 47 New
      +3
      It seems that we are at the beginning of a new race Luna 2 or SOI 2, we can arrange wiring, so there is something to think about, so that we don’t get a second time ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 May 2020 10: 23 New
        +1
        Therefore, I remind again and again that we "catch up and overtake" like Devi and the plan of action does not fit.
        To do what should, do well and will be what is needed.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 May 2020 10: 39 New
          +1
          I think that our leaders understand this, and there is an example before our eyes ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 May 2020 10: 46 New
            0
            We have everyone and everyone upstairs!
            I'd like to see the times when only those who should, and not all other things, will be there!
          2. Kuroneko
            Kuroneko 6 May 2020 12: 42 New
            +2
            Quote: cniza
            I think that our leaders understand this, and there is an example before our eyes ...

            The main thing is not to have a new "phobos-in-ground". And so I am by no means as gloomy as some who have unsubscribed here, I regard the future of our cosmonautics and Roskosmos.
            Tea, not football.
            1. cniza
              cniza 6 May 2020 12: 48 New
              +2
              Quote: Kuroneko

              Tea, not football.


              This is only encouraging. lol
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 6 May 2020 22: 56 New
        0
        Quote: cniza
        It seems that we are at the beginning of a new race Luna 2 or SOI 2, we can arrange wiring, so there is something to think about, so that we don’t get a second time ...

        What race We would have to keep in space what we now have
    2. +5
      +5 6 May 2020 10: 00 New
      +1
      How is nothing done? The winners of the landing on the Moon-2024 are already determined, the budgets are distributed. The second part of the tender, the main one, on the finish line, Cameron, Tarantino and the Wachowski sisters reached the final ... By the way, Weinstein suffered innocently! They slandered him so that he would not participate in the tender
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 May 2020 10: 26 New
        0
        Arrange a tender, set a date for this ... we will look from the side and go about our business .... but so that we would not talk in vain.
        1. Kuroneko
          Kuroneko 6 May 2020 12: 59 New
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          Arrange a tender, set a date for this ...

          ...This will space cut in every sense of the tender and the term, nya! = 3
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 May 2020 13: 32 New
            0
            They call it ... good business!
            However, this is already enough everywhere, in abundance!
  • prior
    prior 6 May 2020 09: 18 New
    +3
    "The USA intends to extract resources on the Moon without Russia"

    Striped flag in their hands.
    Even if the surface of the moon were covered with diamonds, the economic feasibility of such an undertaking, I think, would be doubtful.
  • Alexga
    Alexga 6 May 2020 09: 19 New
    0
    Well, why post it here, the topic is about nothing. Of course, maybe someday, with luck, it may happen, but now talk about it ...?!
  • rocket757
    rocket757 6 May 2020 09: 20 New
    +2
    A photo of the striped president is cool! And then she reminds me !!!
    Ah, Mel Brooks' movie "Space Eggs" .... well, exactly the Lord / B / Flax who! Add a helmet and an exact copy!
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 May 2020 09: 43 New
      +1
      Yeah, he’ll play dolls soon. hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 May 2020 10: 20 New
        +1
        Hi soldier
        Everyone has dreams of desire. This is normal.
        The main thing is how and at the expense of whom is he trying to translate them into reality ???
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 May 2020 10: 37 New
          +2
          The US can solve its problems only at the expense of others and Trump will act as well.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 May 2020 10: 44 New
            0
            Obvious and ... for a long time, most understandable!
            If someone still does not understand this ..... fool
            1. cniza
              cniza 6 May 2020 10: 46 New
              +2
              There are whole columns sometimes running around Moscow and buzzing, they obviously don’t understand, or rather they are kept ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 6 May 2020 10: 51 New
                0
                Residual, and many chronic ....
                On the other hand, there are not very many of them even there, but on the periphery of them during the day with fire in part. Huddled on ... sofas and poke buttons. Dummies are complete, good for nothing!
    2. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 6 May 2020 12: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Ah, Mel Brooks' movie "Space Eggs" .... well, exactly the Lord / B / Flax who! Add a helmet and an exact copy!


      Brofist. I love this satire (here, by the way, it is important to distinguish between satire and parody, and Cosmobolts are just satire).
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 May 2020 13: 29 New
        0
        Mel Brooks, unlike many, turns out .... in short, it turns out! As an anti-Lezley Nielsen example, here it is.
        1. Kuroneko
          Kuroneko 6 May 2020 13: 46 New
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          As an anti-Lezley Nielsen example, here it is.

          Just if we continue the space theme, then his "Naked Space" (well, this is how our brains translated, in fact it is called The Creature Wasn't Nice) is quite a gut for my taste (but here you have to have luggage for / f trashaka of the early and mid-XNUMXth century, and not only Godzilla). The beginning is gloomy, but then the process begins to swing. Try to take a look if you suddenly missed it.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 May 2020 13: 56 New
            0
            No, I didn’t have enough endurance for bare spaces and pistols, for the rest it’s the same thing.
            Sometimes the grotesque is perceived normally, but it is not for everybody.
            "Dogma", "Doom Patrol", etc. came to me.
    3. slipped
      slipped 6 May 2020 20: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Helmet to draw and an exact copy!


  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 6 May 2020 09: 22 New
    0
    What to do then?
  • Altona
    Altona 6 May 2020 09: 29 New
    -1
    How will they teleport raw materials to Earth? And what will be the cost of this raw material? In general, the dreamers are still. Space is unique in that you can create a product with unique properties in orbit, rather than chasing moon dust back and forth.
    1. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM 6 May 2020 09: 44 New
      0
      How will they teleport raw materials to Earth?
      And the space elevator? A pipe from the moon to the earth. Wasn't it invented for these purposes? Just have time to bring the bags))
      1. g_ae
        g_ae 6 May 2020 11: 04 New
        +1
        And Rotenberg for what !?
    2. unaha
      unaha 6 May 2020 11: 06 New
      +1
      In fact, there is no difference in practical implementation so far. The title is generally incorrect. The main thing is that the USA has created a legal justification for the activities of PRIVATE companies on the moon and in space in general. Accordingly, when / if the opportunity arises, any company (including a non-American one) that has a technical solution will have to work in the American legal field and their jurisdiction.
      A great example of creating a new service market for the future and immediately linking it to yourself.
      1. +5
        +5 6 May 2020 11: 10 New
        -1
        Signing a legal act is not a long time. And when you can’t even fly into orbit without Russians and they all laugh at your moon 2024, this is an object for ridicule
        1. unaha
          unaha 6 May 2020 11: 18 New
          0
          "It doesn't take much time to sign a legal act."
          At first glance, yes. However, they began to do this in the USA, and sometime far later (without a guarantee, of course, but we must take into account all the options), we will again ask ourselves - why are all the companies that have achieved positive results, quickly change their "registration" to the USA ...
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 6 May 2020 12: 23 New
        -1
        Quote: unaha
        The main thing is that the USA has created a legal justification for the activities of PRIVATE companies on the moon and in space in general.

        And what is this most LEGAL RATIONALE?
        And how do you look at the fact that both China, India and Russia have spat upon and rubbed your rationale many times over? laughing
        Especially after the coronavirus, the financial and industrial configuration on Earth will SO change that these American fables can be told to children at night.
        1. unaha
          unaha 6 May 2020 12: 53 New
          +2
          "And how do you look at the fact that China, India, and Russia have spit on your justification many times and rubbed them apart?" - yes to health. And then someday there will be a technical solution realizing the possibility of making a profit in space and some "former Russian scientists" will implement private projects in the United States, because there is such an opportunity, but not here.
          Well, let's take private small aircraft here and in the USA as an example, is the difference worth describing? And why does it turn out that there is an airplane / helicopter - a completely normal phenomenon, but we don’t? With our length.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 6 May 2020 12: 58 New
            -1
            Such an opportunity still exists: let them go and realize themselves, and from here we will look at them ...
            1. unaha
              unaha 6 May 2020 13: 04 New
              +1
              And I would prefer that my country bring profit)))
  • aries2200
    aries2200 6 May 2020 09: 32 New
    -3
    so it should be we RUSSIA in Alaska will be engaged in production and a mattress in the moon
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 6 May 2020 09: 37 New
      0
      Quote: aries2200
      so it should be we RUSSIA in Alaska will be engaged in production and a mattress in the moon

      you do not quite understand what they want to mine on the moon.
      1. aries2200
        aries2200 6 May 2020 09: 46 New
        -2
        nothing there
        1. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 6 May 2020 15: 35 New
          0
          Quote: aries2200
          nothing there

          Helium 3.
          There are gophers.
          1. aries2200
            aries2200 7 May 2020 22: 20 New
            0
            Helium 3 is the mythical fuel of the future. Probably not much in the field of thermonuclear energy is surrounded by myths like Helium 3.Maki Avellyevich (Dmitry) .Do not fall for the tales of science fiction writers !!! ..
            1. Maki Avellevich
              Maki Avellevich 8 May 2020 10: 01 New
              0
              Quote: aries2200
              Do not fall for the tales of science fiction writers !!! ..

              You would probably make fun of Jules Verne, living in his time.
              Ps. Many myths are true, and even more the other way around.
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 6 May 2020 22: 57 New
          0
          Quote: aries2200
          nothing there

          This is definitely neither oil nor gas)))))
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 6 May 2020 09: 35 New
    -2
    The Americans are not able to carry out the lunar mission, consider in no way. The maximum is to throw a suitcase with wheels there. Therefore, they are trying to do the only thing they can come up with - to lure Roskosmos into the project. They hope there that the remnants of Soviet developments and Soviet old people will be enough for something more or less sane. Funny guys ...
    Of course, Roscosmos has long been unable to do anything. By themselves, Soviet developments, these are just sheets of paper. Miraculously, the surviving old people will not cooperate (they have been used so meanly for many years, they have betrayed and sold them so many times that they won’t. For no reason), and not enough of them.
    Of course, with the participation of Roscosmos, the project could at least start somehow. But this is unlikely. The US won't pay. For them, this is essential. If they do not throw "these Russians" and begin to treat us in the project as equals, this will mean the collapse of their worldview. In general, as the same Americans say, all this is "chatter for the poor."
    "They will argue, make some noise ... and disperse."
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 6 May 2020 10: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail3
      "They will argue, make some noise ... and disperse."


      Now, yes, they will only disperse after agreeing on the document necessary for the USA and the code of rules. But in 30-50 years, private companies may well try to start extracting resources on the Moon, maybe sooner / later everything depends on how quickly the industry develops, for example, in the USA, after the first success of SpaceX, there was a boom in interest in the industry and a huge number of private company, so who knows ...
      1. Altona
        Altona 6 May 2020 10: 44 New
        +3
        Quote: Aleksandr21
        USA after SpaceX's first success

        -------------------
        The widely publicized One World Free Internet project went bankrupt, the widely publicized Over Loop (pneumatic taxi) project went bankrupt. Interest in outer space allows us to carry out a cosmic scale scam-stamping empty candy wrappers like our Khoper-Invest.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 6 May 2020 10: 56 New
          +1
          SpaceX leads the Starlink project, TheyWeb is its competitors. And Starlink is not free internet.
          But Hyperlop Mask doesn’t sell it on its own; two firms unrelated to it are occupied with it.
        2. Aleksandr21
          Aleksandr21 6 May 2020 11: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: Altona
          The widely publicized One World Free Internet project went bankrupt, the widely publicized Over Loop (pneumatic taxi) project went bankrupt. Interest in outer space allows us to carry out a cosmic scale scam-stamping empty candy wrappers like our Khoper-Invest.


          Nevertheless, there are results, primarily in the hardware: Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, Dragon (cargo version), and now manned Dragon is being prepared, not to mention the successes of other companies. Yes, and our Roskosmos has suffered greatly from the activities of private owners in the launch market, this is a fact. Therefore, not everything is clear here ... there are projects that successfully shoot and there are ones that do not get to success, or I'm just scammers aimed at collecting money (as was the case with Martian projects). And now, due to the coronavirus and the difficult situation in the world, there will be even more bankrupt company, because there will be no money to attract from, so the next 1-2 years for private traders in the space sector will be difficult.
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 6 May 2020 11: 23 New
            0
            Can you find out Musk took at least a dollar from someone on his Martian project? Which by the way is not closed
            1. Aleksandr21
              Aleksandr21 6 May 2020 11: 34 New
              +2
              I’m talking about other companies, there were 2 (if not more) about the flight to Mars and the landing of people there, there were selection of candidates, when people sent profiles and paid $ 15 for it, like, there were plans to arrange such a Dom2 in space when they bought the broadcast rights if large television companies, etc., that is, companies would find sponsors / investors and then go bankrupt, I don’t remember the names of all the companies, one MarsOne and the other need to be watched on the Internet but if interested I can later search ...
              1. Blackmokona
                Blackmokona 6 May 2020 11: 40 New
                +1
                Only MarsVan did this, and he has nothing to do with Mask.
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 6 May 2020 13: 06 New
        -1
        The United States tried to start producing weapons-grade plutonium and realized that it could not. The Pentagon tried to get financing in the amount of about 6-10 billion just to understand - is this possible for America in general? Do you understand? Not to build lines, but just to understand - will it work? Or is that all? What luxurious buzzworms were built! They don’t swim, really really ... And so in everything.
        In 30-50 years, the question will be whether anyone can fix the tractor that drags rockets to the launch pad. Despite the fact that the missiles themselves will not ...
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 6 May 2020 09: 35 New
    0
    if only to spoil Russia ...
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 6 May 2020 09: 38 New
    0
    According to the document, the United States plans to attract "some countries" to production, but Russia, at least at first, will not be among them.

    I heard that Hitler stamped almost two medals "For the capture of Moscow" for each and awarded the corresponding positions from right to left. And I know exactly how all this "foresight" ended.
    1. RMT
      RMT 6 May 2020 10: 15 New
      0
      Not a single museum or collectors have a single medal "For the capture of Moscow".
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 6 May 2020 10: 36 New
        -2
        Quote: RMT
        Not a single museum or collectors have a single medal "For the capture of Moscow".

        Yes. There were stories either about the captured carriage with them, or about the bombed-out truck ... There was a trick "Ice Cream Meat". There were


        It's not about that. The fact that sharing the skin of an unkilled bear is a bad omen.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 6 May 2020 11: 06 New
          +4
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          The fact that sharing the skin of an unkilled bear is a bad omen.


          Not a killed, but imprudently angry bear ...

          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 6 May 2020 11: 08 New
            -5
            Quote: Insurgent
            Not a killed, but imprudently angry bear ...

            Do not understand. Trump pissed off the moon?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 6 May 2020 11: 19 New
              +2
              Quote: Vasyan1971
              Do not understand. Trump pissed off the moon?


              But did the image (below) illustrate the intentions of Trump, and not Hitler, who hastened to bury the USSR?

              1. Vasyan1971
                Vasyan1971 6 May 2020 11: 51 New
                -2
                Quote: Insurgent
                But did the image (below) illustrate the intentions of Trump, and not Hitler, who hastened to bury the USSR?

                In the context, initially - no. It was about
                Quote: RMT
                Not a single museum or collectors have a single medal "For the capture of Moscow".

                But Hitler is shown as an example of what to plan the looting of the moon and the composition of the participants in this, at this stage - too early. A vivid example.
                In the published article, there was no talk of a funeral ...
                The United States intends to mine on the moon with the involvement of other countries, but without Russia.
        2. RMT
          RMT 6 May 2020 13: 18 New
          0
          Cool, for which you minus poked? And these plates for participating in the bombing of Moscow, and, by the way, those who returned alive from these bombings, said that the level of air defense of Moscow is higher than that of London.
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 6 May 2020 13: 26 New
            -2
            Quote: RMT
            Cool, for which you minus poked?

            It happens. request
            The main thing is not to bother about this ...
    2. aries2200
      aries2200 7 May 2020 22: 22 New
      0
      golden words and a very precise remark on the declaration of the extraction of something on the moon .. by our brothers in reason
  • tralmaster.
    tralmaster. 6 May 2020 09: 38 New
    -1
    We ourselves are forced to unite with China. For their money, with our minds. Americans will be in the cesspool.
  • cniza
    cniza 6 May 2020 09: 41 New
    +1
    At the same time, it is argued that there is no talk of any "territorial claims" to the lunar surface.


    You would deal with the virus first, and then to the moon ...
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 6 May 2020 10: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      You would deal with the virus first, and then to the moon ...
      It is impossible to explain all the shortcomings in the work of departments with the situation with the coronavirus, said President Vladimir Putin at a meeting on the development of the space rocket industry

      In the rocket and space industry, NASA listened to the wise words of Vladimir Vladimirovich.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 6 May 2020 19: 37 New
      -1
      The Yankees have infected the Chinese with the coronavirus, and now they are about to sow the Moon with them!
      It is urgent to raise international public opinion in order to prevent this next American outrage.
      The surface of the moon must remain international! laughing
      And to maintain stability in the region, Russia is ready to immediately put there its S-400 and S-500 air defense systems in the required quantity.
  • +5
    +5 6 May 2020 09: 49 New
    -2
    It is urgent to invite the DPRK, Iran and Madagascar to share the moons of Jupiter, I shield!
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 6 May 2020 12: 33 New
      -2
      It would be better if you didn’t shield, but took, and pocketed these satellites (while they were nobody's) to the applause of the grateful audience. lol
      1. +5
        +5 6 May 2020 19: 27 New
        -2
        So in order to pocket them it is necessary to fly .... And so a completely asymmetric response to the imperialists!
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 6 May 2020 19: 30 New
          -2
          And you don’t have to fly there at all!
          Did the Yankees fly to the moon today to declare it their property and divide it between satellites?
  • Tagan
    Tagan 6 May 2020 09: 49 New
    -2
    Quote: Civil
    Well, whoever has the money does that. We are waiting for Rogozin's powerful answer about the lunar base with an indoor pool and a trampoline.

    Yes, recently there have been no problems with drawing wrappers exceptional with drawing, but there have not been any major breakthroughs, apart from blowing dust in the eyes, to say the least. So Rogozin amid the news may pass for a realist in comparison with these storytellers.
  • +5
    +5 6 May 2020 09: 55 New
    0
    Here the Americans are inquisitive, having familiarized themselves with the proposal of Ilona nashfse Mask to land on the moon in 2024 wink They thought that it would be necessary to launch 35 FalconHavi launches if it was in the 4500 tons variant and 20 if in the 6000 tons variant.
    What a degradation! After all, before on the moon on a rocket of 1 tons flew! Yes, they took a cart with them ... bully bully
    Yes there were human beings at that time, heroes, not the present .... By the way, I liked the Odyssey at Kubrick more than the Americans on the Moon ... Realistic chtol
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 6 May 2020 10: 58 New
      +3
      Musk is not going to let Falcon Heavy go to the moon, but Starship.
      1. +5
        +5 6 May 2020 11: 15 New
        0
        They will throw fuel into the Earth’s orbit with a falcon. He has a multi-stage launch. Well, in the projects
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 6 May 2020 11: 15 New
          +1
          No, for this the Starship is in the tanker version.
  • yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 6 May 2020 09: 55 New
    -1
    Dreamer, you called me, dreamer, you and I are not a couple
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 6 May 2020 10: 04 New
    +3
    The moon is a "splinter" of the Earth. Those minerals (inorganic, of course) that are on the Earth,
    should be on the moon.
    As for the prices ...? Deep drilling (for 10 km, for example) on Earth is more expensive,
    than flying into space. Due to pressure.
    It is possible to bring 1 kg of valuable raw materials from the surface layer of the moon
    cheaper than lifting the same 1 kg out of 10 km of a well on Earth.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 May 2020 10: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      The moon is a "splinter" of the Earth.


      This is only a version, but there is something useful for pudes.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 6 May 2020 10: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: prior
    "The USA intends to extract resources on the Moon without Russia"

    Striped flag in their hands.
    Even if the surface of the moon were covered with diamonds, the economic feasibility of such an undertaking, I think, would be doubtful.

    don’t tell, one of the resources is water and helium-3 and not some
    there are hypothetical diamonds. Water is needed to get fuel for longer missions, and helium-3 is needed for ITER
  • regdan
    regdan 6 May 2020 10: 20 New
    0
    Correctly Rogozin is just a cabman.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 6 May 2020 10: 22 New
    +1
    US intends to extract resources on the moon without Russia

    Fuck knows, this overseas madhouse. There, on the moon, you don’t jump in diapers for a long time. And Trump's lunar epic may not be of interest. And hold in hands can:

    lol
  • Machete
    Machete 6 May 2020 11: 21 New
    0
    I would like to know what programs need to be implemented (and, of course, develop them) in order to:
    1) Just fly to the moon (First, again, probably, there will be an unmanned ship)
    2) to develop and fly on a manned vehicle
    3) develop lunar mining equipment
    4) create a base on the moon
    5) to develop and bring mining and processing equipment (to carry waste rock from the moon - this is nonsense)
    6) Create space trucks with a capacity of hundreds of thousands of tons
    7) create orbital shipyards for their production

    This is what came to mind ....

    Well, you understand ....
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 6 May 2020 13: 18 New
      0
      Here I am interested, but where and who will print xanthics?
  • Swed
    Swed 6 May 2020 11: 34 New
    -1
    The presidential race begins. Normal PR. Extraction of resources on the moon is not profitable at the moment. To establish a colony and declare a satellite their own, current technologies do not allow. And if you declare your own Moon on the basis that the United States was the first there, then Russia, as the first recipient of the USSR, can safely introduce a tax on space flights, as it is the first country to conquer it.
  • Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 6 May 2020 11: 40 New
    +1
    Well sho silenced, analytics! ISS to maintain one country is expensive, and therefore International. It is interesting to see how lunar issues are solved in a disagreement and ten times more expensive.
    1. Roman_vh
      Roman_vh 6 May 2020 12: 10 New
      +1
      As Mask is lucky people on the ISS, we should soon see. It seems not to wait long. But about Trump Moon, it’s all about Production, something like that, like Nasruddin’s. Or padish, or donkey, or .....
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 6 May 2020 17: 53 New
        0
        Not so simple. First they will stake out, and then everything will take effect. And it doesn’t matter when then. They don’t miss their naughty Saxons, unless they are explained that not everything in this world, like on the Moon, should belong to them. And you need to do this now, let the bases on the moon appear at least a century later.
  • 501Legion
    501Legion 6 May 2020 12: 13 New
    +2
    completely amuels mattresses. space does not belong to anyone and put on their opinions
    1. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 6 May 2020 18: 06 New
      0
      Exactly. And from whom did they buy space?
  • fa2998
    fa2998 6 May 2020 12: 26 New
    0
    Quote: KAV
    mining is absolutely not profitable.

    First, to get, you need to invest. Moreover, it will be invested in large-TRILLIONS.
    It does not revolve around the earth, under the protection of the magnetosphere. There is hard radiation. The equipment will be literally golden, interspersed with diamonds. hi
    1. Roman_vh
      Roman_vh 6 May 2020 13: 31 New
      +1
      That is, we littered the ground, let's move on.
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 6 May 2020 20: 19 New
        0
        COME - SAW - HEREED.
  • Rzzz
    Rzzz 6 May 2020 13: 34 New
    0
    I wonder what they were going to mine there, which justified this production economically.
  • Disorder
    Disorder 6 May 2020 13: 41 New
    0
    They would first have made (or repeated) a flight to the moon, and then gurgled about the lunar base.
  • pereselenec
    pereselenec 6 May 2020 14: 01 New
    +3
    But what about our promised base on the moon?

    1. Roman_vh
      Roman_vh 6 May 2020 14: 57 New
      -1
      If you have parted by. Ours is now also where the Amer’s will be in 15 years. In the floodlights.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 6 May 2020 23: 05 New
      0
      Quote: pereselenec
      But what about our promised base on the moon?


      In 2018, on Cosmonautics Day, Putin arrived at the reconstructed Cosmos pavilion at VDNKh.
      Putin confirmed plans to implement the Lunar program. "Are we going to the moon?" - asked the astronauts. "Yes," the head of state nodded. "The program is designed until 2030. Work on the creation of the Federation spacecraft is already ending and work has begun on a super-heavy rocket, which should be used for work on the Moon." “So there is no doubt here: we will work actively, we will implement this program,” he assured. “First, the station is in lunar orbit, and then - modules on the Moon itself. In any case, this is planned,” said Putin. “I hope that it will be so. "

      The President asked the cosmonauts if they want to go to the moon. "Very!" - assured him. There and not far to Mars, he smiled and remembered that "somewhere here earlier apple trees were prepared for planting on Mars, the seedlings were sold."
      They also talked about the exploration of Mars. "There are two programs there - I hope we will take part, we have signed appropriate agreements with our partners. Thank God, this area of ​​activity does not affect problematic areas of politics, so I hope everything will develop," he said.
  • Ura Orlov
    Ura Orlov 6 May 2020 16: 18 New
    +1
    And under the contract, the signature of Satan or Yahweh.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 6 May 2020 17: 41 New
    -2
    a "safety zone" will be created around each lunar base, the main task of which will be to "prevent damage or interference from competing countries or companies operating in the immediate vicinity

    That, I think, why did they create the videoconferencing system? And there it is!
    That's right, enough of your green Breguet to Madura to send under the guise of Guanite Juanites, let it be better to guard the resources on the Moon. True, the delivery will be Russian scheduled ships, but if they pay for the ticket and pass the coronary passport tests, according to the schedule, agree with the Russian Foreign Ministry in advance, again with Rogozin, take the tests in our clinic (for a fee), buy masks, your blasters and wunder-wafers It’s forbidden to score, to the commander of the ship, a serviceman of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, stitching, cutting, strong and flammable!
  • NordUral
    NordUral 6 May 2020 17: 48 New
    -1
    Although it is still a long way to the extraction of minerals on the Earth’s natural satellite, the United States intends to formally discuss this agreement in the near future and make a corresponding proposal to such countries as Canada, Japan, EU countries, and the UAE. Russia was not included in this list because the Pentagon views it as a "probable adversary in space."

    Anglo-Saxon arrogance and self-confidence that bottomless barrel.
    Russian and Chinese have no place on the moon. Though...
    But even if the first American stepped on the moon, the United States was still late. The pennant of the USSR was delivered to the lunar surface a decade earlier than the legendary shots were taken. The honorable mission was performed by the Soviet spacecraft Luna-2 on September 13, 1959. So, perhaps, the first people who landed on the moon were the Americans. But the first spacecraft that conquered the satellite were Soviet, and the merit of Russian designers and engineers was in this.

    Whether or not the Americans were on the moon, time will tell.
    But the fact that the Soviet people were the first to reach the moon is a fact. As well as the fact that Soviet and Chinese lunar rovers worked on the moon (later the truth).
    So roll up your lips Mr. Trump.
  • 16112014nk
    16112014nk 6 May 2020 18: 12 New
    -2
    US intends to extract resources on the moon ...
    Yes, what a trifle. Wave right away at Pandora and get whatever you want.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 7 May 2020 10: 44 New
      0
      There is also "turbinium" on Mars! Arnold Schwarzenegger will not let you lie - he personally hid the underground mega-reactor there.
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 6 May 2020 22: 59 New
    -1
    I am bored to read this, flew - did not fly a big question, reminds the movie "Alien" - do not bring anything pliz, otherwise the phobia is already walking around the world !!!
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  • Pup1
    Pup1 7 May 2020 01: 35 New
    0
    Very useful paper ..... once again we are convinced of the absence of any moral and TD obligations in relation to this continent ... Poseidon is useful and timely made ... and needs public trials with 500 ..
  • andrew42
    andrew42 7 May 2020 10: 41 New
    0
    As the saying goes, "He can eat and eat, but who will give him." There will be a real landing on the Moon (real, and not performed by S. Kubrik), there will be drilling tests - then there will be a conversation. So far, there is a strong suspicion that any "miner" will get it in the neck from the "Luna" personnel.
  • Molot1979
    Molot1979 7 May 2020 10: 45 New
    +1
    1. Without even their own engines, they can fly just from the roof to the attic.
    2. They can even grab the Universe according to their ideas. Only who will listen to them when it comes to the development of the lunar interior? I remember Spain and Portugal also once shared the world for two. The world did not notice.
  • Diviz
    Diviz 7 May 2020 11: 00 New
    0
    It is interesting that Roskosmos declares. Rosneft, Rosluna - this is too much. If oil was allowed to add the prefix, then it will not work out to the moon. I don’t know what to do, neither Putin nor Putin’s daughter will help.
    1. slipped
      slipped 7 May 2020 15: 12 New
      0
      Quote: DiViZ
      It is interesting that Roskosmos declares.


      Literally: "The principle of the invasion is the same, be it the Moon or Iraq: the creation of a" coalition of willing "is initiated (as an option - a" coalition of those who wish "), and then, bypassing the UN and even NATO, if there is someone in doubt, go ahead to the goal. Only another Iraq or Afghanistan will come out of this "
  • Pissarro
    Pissarro 7 May 2020 13: 52 New
    +1
    Funny news. People who are not able to independently make a rocket engine for near-Earth orbit and the station, talk about the moon and establish production rules. With Canada and the UAE. I think these two great cosmic powers will abide by the rules and will not mine anything near the Yankees. And the Yankees themselves will remove the Cinema as usual, what they got there on the Moon, but what they lost they lost, because they explained the disappearance of the lunar soil last time? Technology, too, lost by the way, half a century ago)
    But this is all garbage, the main picture of a waving star-striped flag in an airless space. In this picture, in principle, everything you need to know about America)
  • Selevc
    Selevc 7 May 2020 16: 13 New
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    Year after year, the media appear to publish new "breakthrough news" in the field of the exploration of the Moon (Mars) - while the next US president broadcasts to the whole world - "We will soon return to the Moon" George W. Bush, "We will extract resources on the Moon" Trump .. When I was 15 years old (late 80s), they said on TV that a flight to the Moon (Mars) would be in 2000, then in 2010, now I'm over 40 and it's already 2020, but In my opinion, in no country in the world is there any serious preparation for an interplanetary manned flight ...

    Talk in the press goes on for years - for decades !!! The manned missions to the moon did not even reach the stage of the astronaut's flyby around the moon ... What kind of landing is there ??? And I note that during this time a lot of unmanned flights have already been implemented - dozens of devices have been launched from the exploration of Mars and Venus to flights to Jupiter and Pluto ...
    And where are the promised manned flights to the moon and Mars ??? ??? In my opinion, in modern space there are too many big politics and dirty undercover games of world leaders around the programs of exploration of the Moon and Mars !!!
    1. Selevc
      Selevc 7 May 2020 16: 17 New
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      And also the American presidents in the matter of the exploration of the Moon behave as if they had already made a big lie once and now they must regularly cheat so as not to drop their image of the "Leader of the Moon Race" all over the world ...
  • meandr51
    meandr51 7 May 2020 18: 30 New
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    They go, and bags already prepared with stickers ...
  • Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 7 May 2020 18: 46 New
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    Let them fly on all four sides. The earth will be cleaner ...
  • Ham
    Ham 7 May 2020 21: 50 New
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    usa is turning into ukraine ...
    Peremoga is needed every day because the electorate is already beginning to suspect something ...
  • Zementbomber
    Zementbomber 8 May 2020 03: 56 New
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    Well - and rightly so - not Russia - in fact - ask the States about this! laughing