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Latvian official calls Latvian SSR "money donor" in the Soviet Union

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The representative of the Latvian authorities presented his vision of what status the Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic had as part of the USSR. We are talking about Janis Bordans, head of the Latvian Ministry of Justice.


In an interview with the Latvian representative office of the Sputnik news agency, Bordans said that the Baltic republics were not dependent on others, but contributed “up to 48 percent of their budgets” to the budget of the Soviet Union.

Bordans:

Latvia gave exactly 48 percent of its budget, which testifies to our strength.

According to the Latvian minister, Latvia was a donor in the Soviet Union.

From the statement of the Latvian official:

We were donors of money in the USSR.

And how much money Latvia received from the general treasury, Bordans did not mention.

Recall that in modern Latvia, the years the republic was part of the Soviet Union is called the "time of occupation."

Moreover, the vast majority of Latvian politicians say nothing that it was during the years of the Latvian SSR that modern enterprises were rebuilt in the republic, hundreds of new educational institutions, clinics, theaters, and cultural centers were opened. Oil, gas, coal, cotton, wool, agricultural machinery were imported into the republic. In Soviet times, the building of the Latvian Academy of Sciences was built, an electric power system was created, including the Riga and Pляavi Гas hydroelectric power stations. In Soviet times, a sanatorium-resort cluster was created in Latvia, as they would say now, which brought a huge income to the republic.
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  1. Mitroha
    Mitroha 6 May 2020 06: 22 New
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    Latvia gave exactly 48 percent of its budget, which testifies to our strength.

    Yes Yes. Immediately after receiving 150%
    We were donors of money in the USSR.

    The only thing they could donate was Russophobia and unwarranted conceit. Even in the USSR.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 6 May 2020 06: 34 New
      10
      Quote: Mitroha

      Yes Yes. Immediately after receiving 150%

      Russia was a donor to ALL republics (except Belarus).

      And it is the Baltic states ate mostwhile giving away ... least of all.

      That’s why it was necessary to give them more than they earned, that’s the question ... negative
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 6 May 2020 06: 52 New
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        And during the years of this "Soviet occupation" "they began to receive education, intensive construction began.
        Apparently, in spite of the "occupants" "they began to multiply more quickly and learned how to make films!
        And right now --- no "occupants", no films, no population growth, but quite the opposite negative
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 6 May 2020 07: 00 New
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          Quote: Reptiloid
          Apparently, in spite of the "occupants" "they began to multiply more quickly and learned how to make films!
          And right now, no occupants, no films, no population growth, but quite the opposite

          Recently I was in Latvia on a business trip. German company, and there is a branch. Well, what can I say. Russians there ... love! At the household level, I did not find any Russophobia. Rather, the opposite. In the mid-90s, it was not fashionable to speak Russian there. And now, there is practically no problem explaining it. In Riga, of course.
          The feeling, anyway, is somehow dull. Outskirts of Europe ...
          1. Barmaleyka
            Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 07: 01 New
            +9
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            The feeling, anyway, is somehow dull. Outskirts of Europe ...

            everything is back to square one
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 6 May 2020 07: 15 New
              20
              If these "tigers" had been donors, they would not be running around in emigration without pants and whining all over the European countries about how angry and greedy Russia is. laughing
              1. Shurik70
                Shurik70 6 May 2020 07: 25 New
                +9
                Well, yes.
                WHERE ARE THEIR POWER DONE?
                As the USSR collapsed, they lived on reserves for several years. And then EVERYTHING! It's over.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 6 May 2020 07: 59 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Shurik70
                  ...... As the USSR collapsed, they lived on reserves for several years. ......

                  laughing so they imagined all life at the expense of our "pipe" "to survive. negative "" pipe - "" - transit through them! Although not immediately - now they have lost transit. Almost.
                  1. Pete mitchell
                    Pete mitchell 6 May 2020 08: 34 New
                    +9
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    and represented all life at the expense of our "pipe" "to survive

                    The pipe then died many years ago: they were repeatedly asked not to raise the price for transit - not going anywhere: once the valve was closed. Up to a quarter of the budget evaporated ... a few years later, St. Petersburg ports were already working, representatives of the Russian business were watching, investments were promised .. They looked at the pipe, if you repair yourself, then maybe we will think... but after several years of inactivity it was a repair lard, who will give
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 6 May 2020 10: 02 New
                      +8
                      Latvian official calls Latvian SSR "money donor" in the Soviet Union

                      After the Second World War, all the other peoples of the USSR rebuilt the economy of their national republics in the USSR in excess to the Balts, because they — the Baltic Soviet socialist republics — were the buffer entry gate for the West into the USSR on the Baltic Sea.
                      Their formerly NO - bourgeois-marginal backward - economy, the peoples of the USSR turned a kind into the forefront of the socialist system.
                      Moscow has invested so much in the Baltic Soviet socialist republics that after 30 after their withdrawal from the USSR, the Balts have not yet been able to exhaust!

                      The sanctions policy of the Baltic republics under the heel of the United States and the "collective West" towards Russia, which is based on fascist Russophobia and the policy of apartheid towards the Russian people - as a manifestation of their own national inferiority of the titular peoples of the Baltic countries themselves - drives these Baltic countries into a difficult financial situation.
                      For 28 years, the Baltics, under the heel of the United States, have been consistently severing economic ties with Russia, hoping for the charity of the "collective West."
                      But no matter how much the rope twists, the end is still visible.

                      "" Russia does not prevent the Baltic republics from disappearing "" "
                      1. Graduate student
                        Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 21 New
                        16
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        the peoples of the USSR turned a kind of front-line showcase of the socialist system

                        They do not know how to value what they had. The result, as they say on the face or on the face. yes
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 6 May 2020 14: 22 New
                        +4
                        Thanks for the video, Tatyana, hi Of course, a pity for the work of Soviet people and the money spent. They would be needed in other regions also after the Second World War.
                2. Graduate student
                  Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 11 New
                  16
                  Quote: Shurik70
                  WHERE ARE THEIR POWER DONE?

                  Did she have it with them? And what they left from the Soviet regime they ate, profiled, etc. in full
              2. Barmaleyka
                Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 07: 27 New
                -8
                Quote: hydrox
                Would these "tigers" be donors

                there are still thoughts or you answer everything with one post ?!
                1. Barmaleyka
                  Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 09: 21 New
                  -2
                  those who minus delve into the details, two different posts stupidly with copy-paste answers
                  1. hydrox
                    hydrox 6 May 2020 11: 20 New
                    +1
                    I wrote one comment, but the fact that it turned out to be duplicated after 3 minutes - what do I have to do with it?
                    And they threw cons to you for maliciousness - please, be kinder to people ... smile
                    1. Barmaleyka
                      Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 11: 42 New
                      -2
                      Quote: hydrox
                      and the fact that it turned out to be duplicated after 3 minutes - what do I have to do with it?

                      under different quotes? !!!
                      do not make me laugh
            2. Graduate student
              Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 10 New
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              Quote: Barmaleyka
              everything is back to square one

              they themselves wanted it. they did not like living in the Union, got what they wanted.
          2. adler87
            adler87 6 May 2020 07: 36 New
            10
            We are children, in the 9th grade, went to Riga with a class. It was 1985. We did not notice any Russophobia. Moreover, we lived there in the gymnasium of a regular high school, and mattresses and bedding were all brought from Riga by our schoolchildren. Thanks to them for this, I still remember their friendly attitude towards us.
          3. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 6 May 2020 07: 53 New
            +3
            Yes, something like that was said by my friend, who went there with his wife last fall
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            ....... Russians there ... love! At the household level, I did not find any Russophobia. Rather, the opposite. In the mid-90s, it was not fashionable to speak Russian there. And now, there is practically no problem explaining it. In Riga, ...
            Good attitude.
          4. Graduate student
            Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 09 New
            14
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Backyards of Europe

            having no opinion and on which nothing depends. Generally the trash of Europe they are.
        2. Graduate student
          Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 09 New
          16
          Quote: Reptiloid
          And right now

          And now there are no invaders laughing and nothing at all yes
      2. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 06: 54 New
        +3
        Quote: Olgovich
        Russia was a donor to ALL republics

        extremely false statement
        The Union was a ONE organism, and it cannot be argued that the liver is a donor, and the kidneys of the recipient, in the body and the rectum and brains have an equally important function
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 6 May 2020 07: 18 New
          0
          If these "tigers" had been donors, they would not be running around in emigration without pants and whining all over the European countries about how angry and greedy Russia is. laughing
          1. Barmaleyka
            Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 07: 26 New
            -4
            read carefully WHAT I wrote
            1. Aleks2048
              Aleks2048 6 May 2020 08: 24 New
              +3
              I carefully read what you wrote. I disagree radically. Initially, it is incorrect to compare states with an organism (human, animal, etc.), a mistake similar to those that are made when talking about "fraternal" states endowing the state with human feelings and emotions.
              And what Latvia received more than obviously gave just one look at the recent history of this state and we will see the transformations that happened to this state during the period of being a part of the USSR, well, obviously in contrast you can look at what Latvia achieved after 1991.
              1. Barmaleyka
                Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 08: 45 New
                -4
                Quote: Alex2048
                It is initially incorrect to compare states with the body

                it’s just a mistake not to think so, all the prerequisites indicate the similarity of the state and the whole organism from reflexes to mentality which, depending on the conditions in which the state develops
        2. Olgovich
          Olgovich 6 May 2020 07: 39 New
          -6
          Quote: Barmaleyka
          extremely false statement
          The Union was a ONE organism, and it cannot be argued that the liver is a donor, and the kidneys of the recipient, in the body and the rectum and brains have an equally important function

          absolutely true, well-known statement: the Baltic states and ALL other republics received much more than they earned.

          In your system, they consisted mainly of PTA.

          The difference was given to them from the earned RUSSIA
          1. Barmaleyka
            Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 08: 28 New
            -1
            Quote: Olgovich
            In your system, they consisted mainly of PTA.

            it was precisely because of such ideas that the Union collapsed, everyone considered himself the breadwinner and the dependents of the rest
            very old cartoon and very much in the subject
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 6 May 2020 09: 14 New
              -4
              Quote: Barmaleyka
              it was precisely because of such ideas that the Union fell apart,


              These are not "ideas", but data.

              Catch the difference?
              1. Barmaleyka
                Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 09: 21 New
                0
                the fact is that thanks to such ideas, a civil war has been going on for 30 years, 20 million Russians have remained abroad, and Russia itself has been thrown back several decades, these are the facts, and you have not a single fact except for "crispy buns"
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 6 May 2020 10: 08 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Barmaleyka
                  the fact is that thanks to such ideas for 30 years

                  these ideas are only in weakened heads, losing sand on the go, sand crunching.

                  And the facts are that in the Baltic consumed, ate and dressed much better than in the RSFSR.

                  Such a "wise" idea robbery of Russia was invented and implemented by your crazy idols.


                  I do not understand. WHAT and WHO You personallyo prevents you from transferring a wage or donating an apartment to Latvia-Estonia?

                  Maybe they will love you the way you dream?
                  1. Barmaleyka
                    Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 10: 28 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    And the facts are that in the Baltic states they consumed, ate and dressed much better than in the RSFSR.

                    animals eat and people eat, this is for information
                    only fools value everything with money, food and clothing, what do you rate American tanks at 500 km from Moscow and 150 from Leningrad ?!
                    1. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 6 May 2020 10: 48 New
                      -7
                      Quote: Barmaleyka
                      animals eat and people eat, this is for information
                      only fools all rate money, food and clothes,

                      Undress, transfer money to Latvia and throw away food.

                      And live for the rest
                      Quote: Barmaleyka
                      unlike you "breadwinner"

                      you want to feed Latvia.

                      What is the problem, I ask again? give them money and an apartment, only YOURSELF!

                      Quote: Barmaleyka
                      I know what you feel when they hiss in your back “we don’t invite you here, CHVR”, so you don’t even have a moral right to tell me that, or maybe you allowed at least one family of Russian refugees to your place? !!!

                      What is the connection with the issue under discussion?

                      WHAT I DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY fool

                      Why didn’t you love so much in such a beautiful USSR?
                      Quote: Barmaleyka
                      unlike you "breadwinner" I I know what do you feel when they hiss in your back "we don't invite you here

                      Yeah, you're the only one lol laughing
                      1. Barmaleyka
                        Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 10: 59 New
                        0
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        you want to feed Latvia.

                        Unfortunately, my opinion about you cannot be expressed in connection with the forum rules
                    2. orionvitt
                      orionvitt 6 May 2020 16: 32 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Barmaleyka
                      animals eat and people eat

                      Are all people people? After the collapse of the USSR, many of the "national outskirts" turned into those that just devour.
                  2. Barmaleyka
                    Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 10: 32 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    I do not understand. WHAT and WHO does it bother you personally to transfer a wage or to present an apartment to Latvia-Estonia?
                    fool
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Maybe they will love you the way you dream?

                    Unlike you "breadwinner", I know what you feel when someone hisses in your back "we don't invite you here, CHVR", so you don't even have the moral right to tell me that, or maybe you let at least one family of Russian refugees come to you ?! !!
                2. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 6 May 2020 14: 17 New
                  0
                  Was it known under the USSR all the correlation, who receives and gives how much?, Dear comrades ?. Or these figures only after the destruction of the USSR became available.
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 6 May 2020 18: 46 New
                    -4
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    Was it known under the USSR all the correlation, who receives and gives how much?, Dear comrades ?. Or these figures only after the destruction of the USSR became available.

                    they certainly didn’t make an accent.

                    but I didn’t need the numbers: before my eyes, Moldova and Smolensk region are heaven and earth!
                    striking in the eyes and over the edge prosperity, the furious development of everything and everything in Moldova and the flagrant poverty and stagnation in the Smolensk region ...
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 6 May 2020 19: 09 New
                      +1
                      Thank Olgovich I have long wanted to ask this question in such articles, but I remembered it late. I understand that it was not said.
                      In my opinion, this was a big mistake, which has consequences to this day.
                      Now, if then the tables that we often see here on the site were printed! To whom, from where they delivered. For what money. And vice versa --- What did they get ....
                      Maybe then normal relations would have developed, not consumer ones?
                      1. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 7 May 2020 08: 46 New
                        0
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Thank Olgovich I have long wanted to ask this question in such articles, but I remembered it late. I understand that it was not said.

                        Hello Dmitry!

                        Found and the numbers, they are absolutely stunning: annually the actual subsidies of the RSFSR in the MSSR were... 300 000 000 rub,. constantly increasing and reaching 1 000 000 000 rubles 1989 .

                        Those. at the rate of rubles / dollars in the USSR, Russia gave Moldova from 0,5 to 1,5 mlod USD per year!- https://www.kp.md/daily/26694/3718650/

                        What did they give to Smolensk? ZERO!
                        There are no words of indignation ...
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 7 May 2020 09: 18 New
                        +1
                        hi I also welcome you! Now multiply these figures by the number of republics that helped ...
                        There was talk about Georgia, and last year there was a message on the network, they say, the Georgians are worried that they can’t do anything without products from the Russian Federation. Interestingly, they brought food from the USSR too? I know that there was talk that Georgia was feeding.
                      3. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 7 May 2020 09: 27 New
                        -3
                        r yet
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Now these numbers multiply by the number of republics that were helped ......

                        Yes, sky-high gifts are obtained. In addition, they also earned themselves.

                        And Russia earned, robbed ...
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Interestingly, during the USSR they also brought products? I know that there was talk that Georgia was feeding.

                        Of course, they drove.

                        As for "feeding does not feed" I argued with local nationalists in 1989: they shouted: "We will sell you tomatoes, and you will sell us gasoline!" They shouted in full confidence that they would be covered in chocolate.
                        But they turned out to be a different substance ....
                      4. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 7 May 2020 09: 45 New
                        +1
                        After their idiotic statements last year, I was not interested! Vegetable with them.
            2. Nikolaevich I
              Nikolaevich I 7 May 2020 16: 27 New
              +3
              Quote: Reptiloid
              Was it known under the USSR all the correlation, who receives and gives how much? Or these figures only after the destruction of the USSR became available.

              These "numbers" became known to me after the death of the Union ...
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 7 May 2020 16: 51 New
                +2
                I assumed, dear, Niķolaevich l, that these figures were not voiced under the USSR for everyone. And for not all, probably very few. My grandmother said that they were given figures about subsidies to foreign Communist parties, including England and the USA, she had information up to 85 years old. But she didn’t say anything about the content of our republics, which means they didn’t tell them at those meetings.
                In vain, they hid from the republics.
                1. Nikolaevich I
                  Nikolaevich I 8 May 2020 00: 06 New
                  +3
                  Ash-tree stump that, most likely in the opinion of the "Politburo", there was "no need" to inform the "broad masses"! The "top" leadership of the republics knew ... "all sorts of" party secretaries of the regional scale could know ... and the rest, "why"? The herd must obey the shepherds, and for this it must be calm and not "think" (worry) ... (The same principle is "sacredly" observed even now ...)
                2. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 8 May 2020 00: 40 New
                  +1
                  Maybe if everyone knew these figures, there would be no such overstated ambitions among those who were on subsidies .....
                  Probably, still now less than the ability to hide something ....
                3. Nikolaevich I
                  Nikolaevich I 8 May 2020 05: 19 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  if everyone knew these figures, there would be no such overstated ambitions for those who were on subsidies .....

                  Oh, hardly! In the 90s, "these numbers" became known ... so what? Didn't the “brothers from the USSR” “drive a blizzard” to Russia all these years since the 90s? When did the last tryndezhi sound? All these "activists" are people without honor ... which means, without shame and conscience ... lie to them that two fingers on ... asphalt!
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  Probably, still now less than the ability to hide something ....

                  It is unlikely ... Issues of glasnost (or, on the contrary ...) were and are being resolved "at the top" ... by the top leadership, by the "top ranks" ... it does not reach the bottom ... or it continues to be "as before"! The only difference is that "under the USSR" the "lower classes" learned "secrets" from the "Voices ..." in the "West"; and "now" - from "free" journalists and "voices ..."! .... In the USSR, a journalist, even if he recognized the "negative", then spread the information about him through "Soyuzpechat", through the radio stations of the Soviet Union, he could not !!!
                4. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 8 May 2020 08: 39 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Nikolaevich I
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  if everyone knew these figures, there would be no such overstated ambitions for those who were on subsidies .....

                  Oh, hardly! In the 90s, "these numbers" became known ... so what? Didn't the “brothers from the USSR” “drive a blizzard” to Russia all these years since the 90s? When did the last tryndezhi sound? All these "activists" are people without honor ... which means, without shame and conscience ... lie to them that two fingers are on ...

                  In the 90s, these figures became known, and others, even, which never happened.!
                  The result we know ----- culture with all the consequences.
                  However, still not all archives are open, for example, the US has recently made telephone calls between EBN and Clinton public, and ours are not in a hurry to cover that time.
                  Also, for example, after the revolution, much is still not open.
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 6 May 2020 16: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: Barmaleyka
    The Union was a ONE organism, and it cannot be argued that the liver is a donor, and the kidneys of the recipient, in the body and the rectum and brains have an equally important function

    Yeah, that's just an organism infected with all sorts of parasites. Having got rid of them, Russia breathed more freely. Always and in all large states, there are subsidized ("depressed") regions. But if you are fed, sit quietly and do not shine. But no, all the coolest. Time tested their "coolness" by means of "independence". The sight is frankly sad.
  • Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 6 May 2020 07: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: Olgovich
    That’s why it was necessary to give them more than they earned, that’s the question ...

    A powerful state is valued for its power because it can manage its territories because it is convenient for its existence. Take from some what is in excess than strong and give it to those who do not. And by pulling a shirt on yourself, show your uniqueness in damage to others is the first signs of separatism and nationalism. What are the formerly fraternal republics that are fond of the State Department’s cookies for their affairs? Well, let them say they want to. All the same, they have to crawl to Russia and beg for alms, because these ter Ithor Pentagon designated as a military base against Russia, rather than as an area with the best trade SShA.Brat them with nothing, even the labor force is no longer as in Ukraine.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 6 May 2020 08: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Take from some that in excessthan strong, and give to those who do not.

      belay
      It was in abundance in Russia that fed the republic ?! belay lol
      For information, Estonia ate twice as much as it earned. Georgia is FOUR times larger.

      PS help them now. only personally.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 6 May 2020 10: 38 New
        0
        Quote: Olgovich
        PS help them now. only personally.

        Sorry, a piece in the middle of the throat will become.
      2. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 11: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: Olgovich
        It was in abundance in Russia that fed the republic ?!

        do not feed now, it has become easier, more joyful, freer? !!!
        Quote: Olgovich
        PS help them now. only personally.

        that’s purely sporting interest, do you play the fool or don’t really understand that no one is saying that someone should feed someone now?
        especially for you, based on YOUR logic, Moscow should be expelled from the country for dependency
      3. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 6 May 2020 15: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: Olgovich
        It was in abundance in Russia that fed the republic ?!

        Not true. I’m not talking about Russia, but about the entire USSR as a state. In some republics, for example, there was cotton, in others timber, in third wheat, in fourth mechanical engineering, shipbuilding, fruit, vegetables, etc. there was an exchange of products under the leadership of the State Planning Commission and the Government of the USSR. There are tables of manufactured products and profits of enterprises in the Soviet republics of that period. The Baltic states were a vampire and not a donor. And for its participation in the state, the Soviet government was forced to pay due to the redistribution of income. That's what I mean.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 6 May 2020 19: 16 New
          0
          There were such slogans, in my opinion .---
          Who does not work shall not eat!!
          From each --- according to ability, to each ---- according to work!
          Thanks for the table, I was going to search for a long time!
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          Quote: Olgovich
          It was in abundance in Russia that fed the republic ?!

          Not true. I’m not talking about Russia, but about the entire USSR as a state. In some republics, for example, there was cotton, in others timber, in third wheat, in fourth mechanical engineering, shipbuilding, fruit, vegetables, etc. there was an exchange of products under the leadership of the State Planning Commission and the Government of the USSR. There are tables of manufactured products and profits of enterprises in the Soviet republics of that period. The Baltic states were a vampire and not a donor. And for its participation in the state, the Soviet government was forced to pay due to the redistribution of income. That's what I mean.
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 6 May 2020 08: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      Well, let them say what they want. Still have to crawl
      I agree with everything, except for this: you have to beat the beat so that you think before talking about the consequences. Then there will not be any sponsors, measures Prague, etc. You can beat it in different ways: information space, the economy, by yourself ruble vote... Now the port of Riga serves a couple of ships a week, but before the ships in line were in line
  • Blacksmith 55
    Blacksmith 55 6 May 2020 09: 55 New
    +2
    Olgovich, I completely agree. And the Baltic was provided much better. People from our village went there to buy things that we could not find with us during the day. Just one example: washing machines.
    I know that motorcycles were brought from there.
    I think this was done so that they would not be "drunk", but the Russian would endure.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 May 2020 10: 43 New
      0
      Quote: Blacksmith 55
      And the Baltic was provided much better.

      The carrot-and-stick system worked. So there was nothing to be surprised at.
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 6 May 2020 11: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Blacksmith 55
      Olgovich, I completely agree. And the Baltic was provided much better

      And in Moldova, you think. was it different?

      In the village of mothers near Smolensk in the mid 1960s .... there was .... LIGHT, RADIO, GAS, TV, roads, NOTHING!

      In the evening it is not clear whether the 16th century is in the yard. is it the 20th?

      Huts under CHIP, straw, patches on clothes ...

      At this time in Moldova, FULL electronic calibration, radio, TVs, huge road, housing, industrial construction in all villages and cities.

      What did Moldova earn on corn all these funds?

      Ripped off Russia as sticky ...
      1. Blacksmith 55
        Blacksmith 55 6 May 2020 11: 23 New
        +2
        Fortunately, light was in our area (Orenb. About.). Until 12 at night, the generator worked at MTS. Then naturally full of darkness. In 67, a line was drawn from the Kuibyshev hydroelectric station.
        But all the republics were better off than the RSFSR.
      2. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 17: 13 New
        0
        Quote: Olgovich
        Ripped off Russia as sticky ...

        Have you decided when we will separate Moscow from the Russian Federation?
        you stand for it
  • seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 6 May 2020 10: 01 New
    0
    This time, right after independence, Latvia becomes the second in terms of economy, oh no, China has forgotten, the third country in the world! Or the Baltic states?
  • To be or not to be
    To be or not to be 6 May 2020 12: 33 New
    +2
    That's why their withdrawal = freebie over ...
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 6 May 2020 12: 43 New
    +2
    Quote: Olgovich
    And it was the Baltic States that ate the most, giving ... less than all.

    EMNIP, sunny Georgia was in first place in terms of subsidies from the union budget by a large margin. Which, however, also declares that "in the USSR it fed everyone." smile
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 6 May 2020 16: 29 New
    +1
    Quote: Olgovich
    And it was the Baltic States that ate the most

    And the Caucasus? Georgia alone contributed 2% to the general Union budget. and received 4%, that is, consumed twice as much as it produced. True, now, all these former "great national republics" are all hicks without pants. However, the slogan "stop feeding Moscow" is still very popular. laughing
    1. Mambius
      Mambius 6 May 2020 16: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: orionvitt
      What about the Caucasus? Only Georgia, in the total Union budget contributed 2%. and received 4%, that is, consumed twice as much as it did.

      I’m not talking about Georgia at all, there were such postscripts and Shevardnadze was still a mafioso there .. All the "former allies" were sucking Moscow and in black. Now the lafa is over, although attempts are continuing ..
      I remember meat processing plants, confectionary factories, textiles, household appliances, etc. We produce in the region and do not see our products ..
      You go to the "union brotherhood" and here it is, all the darlings are literally bursting with shops .. And the local visitors look askance at us "as if they have come in large numbers here."
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 6 May 2020 16: 43 New
        0
        Quote: Mambius
        What a shame, but what to do

        What happened was gone, although we all remember. But time puts everything in its place. So there is no room for despondency.
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 6 May 2020 18: 57 New
      0
      Quote: orionvitt
      What about the Caucasus? Only one Georgia, in the total Union budget contributed 2%. and received 4%, that is, consumed twice as much as it did.

      You are right — there are figures that I consumed THREE times more than I earned.

      we won’t forget that in the republic, in addition to money, salami and the most valuable HUMAN resources from Russia, which raised industry there and .... became invaders a little later ...
  • vadim dok
    vadim dok 6 May 2020 17: 12 New
    +1
    Have you forgotten about Azerbaijan?
  • Clerk
    Clerk 7 May 2020 15: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: Olgovich
    That’s why it was necessary to give them more than they earned, that’s the question ...

    Who asked us? How much the union leadership decided - so much was given. "The party said" must "- the Komsomol answered" Yes! "
  • Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 6 May 2020 08: 16 New
    +1
    According to the Latvian minister, Latvia was a donor in the Soviet Union.

    Quote: Mitroha
    Yes Yes. Immediately after receiving 150%

    Yes, now all the former Union republics can shout, as well as immediately after the collapse of the Union they shouted that they feed (supply) the entire Union. That's just few people have preserved industry and developed it according to current requirements. And everyone is trying to figure out how many more denyuzhek Russia owes them.
    If you were all so great, why are now so poor and indigenous people traveling around the world in search of a better life ?!
    1. Graduate student
      Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 23 New
      14
      Quote: Starover_Z
      If you were all so great, why are now so poor and indigenous people traveling around the world in search of a better life ?!

      Because without Russia they have to survive. The West does not seek to sponsor them for free, and they have nothing to take
  • Basil50
    Basil50 6 May 2020 08: 18 New
    +1
    mitrohe
    There, in the Baltic States, they remember and know about this, but they execute the whining order and the complaint.
    The author of the article should have reminded the Balts about how PLEBESIT passed on joining the SOVIET UNION. And the percentage of voters and the percentage of requiring accession.
    Today, the Baltic states are in fashion to represent their grandfathers-grandmothers as idiots, but they also began to pay less. Even in Europe there are those who still can read, including how HOW the Balts turned out to be * independent * and how they later asked to join the SOVIET UNION,
  • knn54
    knn54 6 May 2020 08: 24 New
    0
    Another "donor"
    "Nursing" Latvia was torn away from RF. "Mastitis" was formed.
    There is a "muddy" stuffing for citizens in order to get some kind of compensation.
  • Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 6 May 2020 08: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: Mitroha
    Yes Yes. Immediately after receiving 150%

    They took strangers, but they had to give their own.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 6 May 2020 09: 47 New
    +2
    Quote: Mitroha
    The only thing they could donate was Russophobia and unwarranted conceit. Even in the USSR.

    Before talking about the greatness of his country, Mr. Janis Bordaens had to look at the political map of the world, where instead of the inscription "Latvia" there is only the number "14"
    1. Graduate student
      Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 24 New
      14
      They still feel great now laughing
  • Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 6 May 2020 17: 28 New
    -1
    If they were so strong, then let 4% of their GDP go to, for the roof of NATO, or maybe all 10% of which is too trifling then? , the strong Baltic states as well as the Sumerians skillfully protect NATO from the Russian invasion!
  • sleeve
    sleeve 6 May 2020 06: 28 New
    +4
    And the point in reverse order to list it? About factories, about ports, about bridges and roads? It would be effective to register a foundation of some kind of "heritage and reconciliation". They bang about "donation". The Foundation bang in response to an official letter (it would be nice to connect the Foreign Ministry channels, you can do it). And in the letter how much they gave, how much they received. And the question, of course, is "how do you like that"? Of course, everything with a documentary. Yes, with information support on the web and in the media. Ten times such battles and no longer a politician will be called, but suppose "Not a sacks dragging politician from the Baltic states."
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 May 2020 09: 55 New
      0
      Quote: sleeve

      And the meaning in the reverse order is to list them?

      Yes, nothing needs to be enumerated, just the world, in connection with the situation created, simply forgot that there is such a state as Latvia. So you need to remind everyone of yourself about your beloved, and even complain about how they were offended, maybe someone will donate a couple of lemons to poverty.
  • andrewkor
    andrewkor 6 May 2020 06: 30 New
    +8
    STATEMENTS SIMILAR FROM A BALT, ISSUING THEIR FEELINGS FROM Awareness of one's own inferiority in modern realities!
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 6 May 2020 06: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: andrewkor
      THEIR FEELINGS FROM Awareness of one's own inferiority in modern realities!

      Someone’s only in modern ones? They always KNEW of their inferiority, and therefore always puffed.
      the peasants were enslaved and, by their social status, were equated by the Courland Statute with the ancient Roman slaves.

      The genetic memory of life by grooms, castle servants and at the peak of your career as single squire, where can you get it?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 6 May 2020 10: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Mitroha
        They always KNEW of their inferiority, and therefore always puffed.

        All quasi-states created by the "grace" of the Versailles Treaty have always been aware of their inferiority, although some of them imagined themselves to be Great Powers.
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 6 May 2020 06: 34 New
    +1
    Where is this country on the map of Latvia?
    1. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO 6 May 2020 06: 41 New
      0
      Where all the professional kept women
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 May 2020 10: 04 New
      0
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Where is this country on the map of Latvia?

      There is no name, and instead of the name is digital number 14.
  • regdan
    regdan 6 May 2020 06: 42 New
    -4
    All fed Russia.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 May 2020 10: 10 New
      0
      Quote: regdan
      All fed Russia.

      This is how self-greatness arises. Somehow in the US, Harvard students are asked "Do you know such a country, Latvia? The answer is, we don't know." This question was answered by the Armenian radio "Latvia, this is the country that fed Russia."
  • Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 6 May 2020 06: 48 New
    10
    one logical question arises, but where did all well-being go after leaving the USSR? After all, logically, if all the money was taken away, then after the exit they should have remained in the republic, and their well-being should sharply go up
  • SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 6 May 2020 07: 01 New
    +3
    What was it was forgotten.
    Now they live, uh, breathtaking. All non-Slaves dream of living in this prosperous country. Pension, medicine, social services and, of course, officials who care so much for the people.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 6 May 2020 10: 17 New
      0
      Quote: Serge Boss
      Pension, medicine, social services and, of course, officials who care so much for the people.

      Everything is the same as in any former republic of the USSR that has embarked on the path of capitalist development. All in one, only officials occasionally sing differently. If in doubt, turn on any TV program.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 May 2020 07: 02 New
    +3
    Latvia was a donor in the Soviet Union
    "The further into the forest, the thicker the partisans" (Fomenko). So here too - those who from the farm limitrophe became the "showcase of the USSR" suddenly declare themselves a donor of the Soviet Union. So close to the moment that they will announce that they contain the EU today. Truth be afraid to loudly declare this, tk. in general, they will lose all subsidies. Correctly say: "Small bug, but smelly."
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 May 2020 07: 07 New
    0
    Then there were parasites, and now, beggars!
  • Andrey Mikhaylov
    Andrey Mikhaylov 6 May 2020 07: 13 New
    +5
    Shaw again. Breadwinners? But how many of you are there?
    1. Graduate student
      Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 26 New
      16
      Quote: Andrey Mikhaylov
      Shaw again. Breadwinners? But how many of you are there?

      There are many of them. And all consider themselves breadwinners. laughing
  • Masha
    Masha 6 May 2020 07: 15 New
    +5
    We were donors of money in the USSR.

    The USSR fell apart, there is no one to subsidize, then why are you bending? Should they flourish? wassat
    1. Graduate student
      Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 26 New
      16
      Quote: Masha
      Should they flourish?

      They thrive, but only in their illusory dreams yes
  • Van 16
    Van 16 6 May 2020 07: 28 New
    +1
    The Baltics was in some way a showcase of the Union, incredible money was crashing in there, everything was developing, both industry, infrastructure, and culture. Now there is no Union, and where is industry, art, theaters, cinema and so on? As a result, they exchanged all this for the opportunity to work in Europe ..
    1. Graduate student
      Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 26 New
      16
      Quote: Van 16
      the result - they exchanged all this for the opportunity to work in Europe

      They sought to do this, to work in Europe. Slave thinking yes
  • Amateur
    Amateur 6 May 2020 07: 32 New
    +2
    Ah Pug, know she is strong,
    Kohl barks at an elephant! (I.A. Krylov)
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 6 May 2020 10: 42 New
      0
      Napoleon complex ---- interesting, thank you. And what is it that the imperfections developed? Or develop? 30 years almost. Do not even think .... recourse
  • Tagan
    Tagan 6 May 2020 07: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: Mitroha

    Yes Yes. Immediately after receiving 150%

    Russia was a donor to ALL republics (except Belarus).

    And it is the Baltic states ate mostwhile giving away ... least of all.

    That’s why it was necessary to give them more than they earned, that’s the question ... negative

    They were the "showcase" of the Soviet Union.
    1. Graduate student
      Graduate student 6 May 2020 14: 27 New
      14
      Quote: Tagan
      They were the "showcase" of the Soviet Union.

      Now the USSR is gone and there is no showcase. But there is a cruel reality.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 6 May 2020 07: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: Mitroha

    Yes Yes. Immediately after receiving 150%

    Russia was a donor to ALL republics (except Belarus).

    Apparently you wanted to say that at that time the RSFSR
  • Tagan
    Tagan 6 May 2020 07: 58 New
    +1
    The Academy building they built ... Look, you ...
    I wonder for what needs it is now being used.
    Now even a phrase like "Latvian scientist" sounds somewhat comical.
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 6 May 2020 08: 03 New
    +1
    The Baltic states in the USSR were a showcase, and now the backyards.
    1. cniza
      cniza 6 May 2020 08: 58 New
      +5
      Now trash E.S.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 May 2020 10: 42 New
        +1
        Phantom pains.
        Many former ones have this chronic disease now.
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 May 2020 10: 44 New
          +3
          So it seems they didn’t cut anything off, or there aren’t enough shouts from Moscow ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 May 2020 10: 49 New
            +2
            They are so cunning ... thought out! They want gingerbread cookies and other nishtyaki, but everything else, only from a big dad because of okeana, they are ready to listen!
            TF-u on them and forget.
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  • rocket757
    rocket757 6 May 2020 09: 13 New
    +2
    A simple question - What do they want? we already began to forget that there it is, that, in fact, is the most correct !!!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 6 May 2020 10: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      A simple question - What do they want? we already began to forget that there it is, that, in fact, is the most correct !!!
      hi good morning Victor!
      What do you want? Jump higher, what if we buy milk again? fool Or do we want sprats? negative
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 May 2020 10: 40 New
        +1
        Greetings Dmitry soldier
        Their method of begging, worked only in one direction ... not ours, this is a fact.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 6 May 2020 10: 47 New
          +1
          Under the USSR, they did not seem to ask? Upstairs they decided to make a showcase or what I don’t know? Victor?
          Quote: rocket757
          Greetings Dmitry soldier
          Their method of begging, worked only in one direction ... not ours, this is a fact.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 May 2020 10: 55 New
            +1
            The showcase was, it is a fact .... and there was ambition, spat on the lip.
            Seen enough of them in the service, and then.
            However, many quite adequately perceived everything, but WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 6 May 2020 11: 04 New
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              The showcase was .... and the ambition was ........ However, many quite adequately perceived everything ....

              Then there was a state ideology. Now they have in their country, but the Russian Federation does not
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 6 May 2020 11: 07 New
                +1
                And we have everything ahead! We spin, rush about, while in place ... but it's not forever!
            2. rocket757
              rocket757 6 May 2020 11: 05 New
              +1
              I want to clarify.
              All the welfare of the republics was due to the fact that they were part of one, one whole, i.e. THE USSR!
              As soon as we left there, all of their wealth went to tar tarara !!!
              The result, as we see on the face, is written in capital letters.
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 6 May 2020 11: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: rocket757
                ... All the welfare of the republics was due to the fact that they were part of .... the USSR! As soon as we left there, all of their wealth was flying .....
                Yes, Victor, this applies to all former republics and no one wants to admit it.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 6 May 2020 11: 37 New
                  +1
                  Ha, many claims are made!
                  Therefore, I propose to send specifically and forget forever!
                  They will free the territory themselves, over time.
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 6 May 2020 11: 55 New
                    +1
                    They will whine and complain as usual.
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 6 May 2020 12: 25 New
                      +1
                      With / D / urkom can not be forbidden!
                      The choice is strictly individual.
                      PS By the way, as soon as the geyrope got tired of making a "showcase of capitalism", they started a barrel in that direction too! Only there they put a big and fat one on them, which we should do finally.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 6 May 2020 09: 14 New
    0
    As it is all one-sided in the article. Industry, of course, was built, but a lot of what happened before the war, everything was destroyed. The WEF factory was established long before the war, several factories merged, they produced: radio equipment, motorcycles, cars, and even designed and tried to start the production of training sports planes, they did 3 pieces. People from the USSR, remember the VEF-Speedol receivers, was no worse than Grundikov, tape recorders, telephones, CD players, radio stations, light bulbs, even released computers, microcircuits, some kind of spare parts for locators. RAF car factory, probably remember minibuses, in all cities, only RAFiki ran, ambulances in cities, RAFiki, good buses. A lot of things were released. A lot of things were built, restored. There were also a large number of military facilities, but here it is interesting. If the construction of military facilities came from the Moscow Region, the Union was already paying for the resources consumed by the bases. So it happened, got the resources, and even for half of these resources got the money. The money received due to the maintenance of the MO facilities is attributed to subsidies. Well, somehow messy of course, excuse me.
    1. Altona
      Altona 6 May 2020 09: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Free Wind
      So it happened, got the resources, and even for half of these resources got the money.

      ------------------
      They paid for raw materials at intra-union prices, not for brands and pounds. They did not pay for licenses either, for the creation of infrastructure, in general, this horse was fed not at all in return.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 May 2020 12: 28 New
        0
        They catered to the needs of a large country !!! Used the resources of that country. That's what it was.
        As soon as ... so right away nobody needs anything.
        1. Altona
          Altona 6 May 2020 13: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          They catered to the needs of a large country !!!

          -----------------------
          I didn’t particularly watch Shota selling their products on sale; my father brought them mainly from Riga to me; he was sent there to the sanatorium a couple of times. So I remember, praline-assorted sweets from the Pyargale factory, for example. I brought a suit to the first class to go, I remember such a jacket with wide lapels as the accompanist’s, well, it’s a bad idea to go to school every day. laughing laughing
          RAFik was also an elite minibus and, in general, you couldn't drive around in RAFs when there was an ERAZ or a Polish "Zhuk". laughing laughing
          And in the pioneer camp I remember in the year 1979, the pioneer leader had a radio tape recorder "Radiotekhnika", unearthly beauty and intergalactic sound, to the melodies of which all the beautiful female population of the camp from 12 to 27 years old came running. laughing laughing laughing laughing
          In general, they played the role of a showcase for the West, which is supposedly our type of GDR in the USSR.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 May 2020 13: 39 New
            0
            Quote: Altona
            Shota, I did not particularly watch their products on sale

            So our country is BIG! All their products dissolved in its open spaces like a drop in the ocean! Because of that production there were a few drops in a huge stream that was consumed by a large country.
          2. Free wind
            Free wind 6 May 2020 14: 27 New
            +1
            Pinzhak with pockets like a trainer's, did you go to first grade in a tuxedo or what? It seems like there was a form for all, one and indivisible. But the girls were beautiful in her, with bows, in white aprons, but how the neighbor on the desk will snuggle, let me write off, oh, oh. The elite minibus was ZIL "YUNOST" based on ZIL-114. There is an ancient Ethiopian proverb, I cannot repeat it in the original, but in translation it sounds something like "no matter how long you feed a wolf, the elephant is still thicker" This is just about YerAZ and about Armenia. The Yerazes did not work in the taxi, since there were few working horses in the USSR. This miracle drove only downhill, the engine was scary to start, it began to fall apart on the spot. Accordingly, baud the mountain on its own, and the horses pulled up the mountain. Therefore, minibuses RAF. VEF Spidola was quite sold, I have batin VEF 201, actually it still works, only for my nephew. Now it is difficult to use it, there the settings are in meters, now in hertz. I saw VEF cameras on sale. They say they were even used by the KGB. But whether the monks could have been allowed to wander there, I don't even know. All the same, there is the largest naval base in the Baltic, the Strategic Missile Forces 8 or 9 ballistic missile launch silos, a bunch of radars, and an over-the-horizon radar, and a new one was under construction, tank units, etc. Let the alien goat into the garden ...
            1. Altona
              Altona 6 May 2020 14: 33 New
              +1
              Quote: Free Wind
              A jacket with pockets, like a koncetrimenster, did you go to first grade in a tuxedo or what?

              -------------------
              What for? I'm telling you that they bought me a real suit, and not a blue uniform with a chevron on the sleeve, which was then. In the first grade I wore a sweater and it was deep on my drum. Even then I could count up to 1000, read 140 words / min and write. The teacher at the first parent-teacher meeting asked the mother "why is your son sitting so impassive in the lesson?", The mother said that he knew the program of the 1st grade completely.
            2. Altona
              Altona 6 May 2020 14: 56 New
              +1
              Quote: Free Wind
              Therefore, minibuses RAF.

              -------------------
              In Moscow, some, yes. There was no such luxury on the periphery. I did not see them en masse in the same Kazan or Cheboksary, on a proletarian tram or trolleybus. And in general, I talked about the RAF as an ambulance or as a commercial minivan, so I remembered about ERAZ and the Beetle.
    2. Amateur
      Amateur 6 May 2020 13: 24 New
      +3
      The RAF factory was established long before the war,

      The RAF plant is Russo-Balt, a brand of a Russian car produced at the Russian-Baltic Carriage Works in Riga. Joint Stock Company Russian-Baltic Carriage Works (RBVZ) is an enterprise of the Russian Empire. It also used "Latvian" electric cars
      The VEF plant was founded long before the war. "Russian Electric Society" Union "is a Russian company. The headquarters of the company was located in St. Petersburg. The main department and factories - in Riga, technical offices - in St. Petersburg, Moscow, Warsaw, Kiev, Odessa, Kharkov, Yekaterinburg, Perm and Vladivostok [1]. The Riga plant became the predecessor of the famous VEF. (Viki)
      What other "Latvian" factories are you interested in?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 May 2020 13: 43 New
        +1
        Everything is right! In isolation from our big country, the sisters will reach the Baltic ..... farm households are not the worst that you can reach.
  • Furious bambr
    Furious bambr 6 May 2020 09: 22 New
    +1
    When the whole country went to them and was stuffed with sausage and clothes - what other conceit could they have? And reality is much more prosaic
  • Altona
    Altona 6 May 2020 09: 23 New
    +2
    Why can't these powerful donors build anything like the RAF or the Ventspils port today? Where are their current Raimonds Pauls and Donatasy Banionis? For some reason I have not bought Latvian sweets, sprat and Riga balsam for a long time. True, cunning Latvians drive it to Germany in "Russian" stores, sticking "nostalgic" stickers like not sprats but some kind of "St. Petersburg smoked herring", not assorted "Pyargale", but "Alyonushka and Ivanushka". They sent me photos of these "Russian" products. Donors, you understand, their donor has not yet grown. laughing laughing
  • tatra
    tatra 6 May 2020 09: 50 New
    0
    The enemies of the Communists stupidly blur out that no one gets in, not realizing that of all that they say and write, logical conclusions always follow. So this Bordans, trying to prove one thing, proved a completely different thing - that if, under the rule of the Communists, Latvia was so rich that it subsidized the USSR, and under the rule of the enemies of the Communists, it became an impoverished woman in Europe, then the power of the Communists is better for Latvia.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 6 May 2020 09: 52 New
    0
    crazy in the current government of the Baltic republics of the former USSR - this is the norm of Western democracy today ...
  • BMP-2
    BMP-2 6 May 2020 09: 57 New
    0
    What russophobia leads to: he simply forgot what the word "donor" means in Russian! :))
  • ZVS
    ZVS 6 May 2020 10: 06 New
    0
    Latvians never differed in analytical thinking. If they were donors, then why aren’t they donating money to the EU now? Why are they now sitting on the neck of Germany? All republics fed the RSFSR. In the USSR there were no self-sufficient republics. Therefore, now, besides Uzbekistan, they are pulling money from Russia.
  • Galleon
    Galleon 6 May 2020 10: 53 New
    +3
    Quote: Olgovich
    And the facts are that in the Baltic states they consumed, ate and dressed much better than in the RSFSR.

    One can only remember the cigarettes ... Where did they get the tobacco and send it to the Baltic tobacco factories (cigarettes "Riga", "Tallinn"), and what kind of "prima" it was in Morshansk. Why not the other way around: I will "accept" in Riga, and imported tobacco in Morshansk? Neither in Riga nor in Morshansk tobacco grows, the supply is centralized throughout the Union, but the attitude towards the "younger brothers" and themselves was as different as the quality of the smoke was then.
    1. Altona
      Altona 6 May 2020 14: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: Galleon
      Some cigarettes just remember ...

      ---------------------
      Well, Grodno and Baku "Prima" were worse than Moscow or Yaroslavl, for example. I remember it. The Armenians had quite good cigarettes, if we recall the "Arin-Berd", the Moldavian "Fluerash" were excellent cigarettes, but not everything was so good on the periphery. And of course, Arbatskoye wine was more pleasant than Solntsedar.
      1. Free wind
        Free wind 6 May 2020 14: 49 New
        +1
        Oh my God, solntsedar, a gift from Africa, what horror It seems Algerians donkey urine was added for the fortress. I would not risk drinking it now. Have a better hawthorn.
        1. Altona
          Altona 6 May 2020 14: 51 New
          +2
          Quote: Free Wind
          Oh my God, solntsedar, a gift from Africa, what horror.

          --------------------
          Why Africa? The most Azeri with the addition of confectionery essence. laughing laughing
          1. Free wind
            Free wind 6 May 2020 16: 30 New
            +1
            No, wine swill brought from Algeria by tankers merged in Novorosiysk, then in the village of Solsedar, at the local one. the distillery made this terrible swill., well, they just bodied it with alcohol - a technician. Solsedar village near Gelendzhik, as they write they have already merged. This "wonderful" drink was produced until 80-82 years. Then stocks were still sold. I don't know what is being produced in Azerbaijan now.
            1. Altona
              Altona 6 May 2020 18: 05 New
              +2
              Quote: Free Wind
              This "marvelous" drink was produced until 80-82 years. Then stocks were still sold.

              ---------------------------
              One of your descriptions of this "nectar" already distorts. laughing I, hmm, somehow gravitated more towards the Moldavian "White Stork" and vintage wines. laughing
  • iouris
    iouris 6 May 2020 12: 32 New
    0
    Latvian SSR - possible. The question is not solved: is Latvia an EU donor?
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 6 May 2020 14: 50 New
    0
    "Bordaens said that the Baltic republics were not dependent on others, but contributed to the budget of the Soviet Union" up to 48 percent of their budgets. "
    If your own earned money was calculated in three rubles, and deductions of 2, then, of course, the payment to the state budget of the USSR will be at 70%. There is other data. Here they are:



    There are such:
  • Klmn
    Klmn 6 May 2020 14: 55 New
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    It wasn’t true that the contribution was normal, BUT, again, from the enterprises built by the Union, REZ, VEF, RVZ, DZINTARS, you must agree that the trains with the RvR skyscraper rode the railway for a long time.
    In general, at that time the indestria was very developed here, it’s just that we like to watch a piece of the picture without seeing the whole canvas, maybe seeing it, but such a pointer, say the current like that.
    Nitsche, but now happiness is all ** Renault :)
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 6 May 2020 15: 05 New
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    Quote: Free Wind
    As it is all one-sided in the article. Industry, of course, was built, but a lot of what happened before the war, everything was destroyed. The WEF factory was established long before the war, several factories merged, they produced: radio equipment, motorcycles, cars, and even designed and tried to start the production of training sports planes, they did 3 pieces. People from the USSR, remember the VEF-Speedol receivers, was no worse than Grundikov, tape recorders, telephones, CD players, radio stations, light bulbs, even released computers, microcircuits, some kind of spare parts for locators. RAF car factory, probably remember minibuses, in all cities, only RAFiki ran, ambulances in cities, RAFiki, good buses. A lot of things were released. A lot of things were built, restored. There were also a large number of military facilities, but here it is interesting. If the construction of military facilities came from the Moscow Region, the Union was already paying for the resources consumed by the bases. So it happened, got the resources, and even for half of these resources got the money. The money received due to the maintenance of the MO facilities is attributed to subsidies. Well, somehow messy of course, excuse me.

    For your reasoning, it would be nice to attach a head. So that frank stupidity is not written.


    To give a simple example, I and you are the chairmen of collective farms. Nearby located, having the same economy, land, number of workers, agricultural machinery ....
    I am a true lover, I climb into the stands, criticize the authorities, I’ve gotten into trouble at the Regional Committee. You are a silent person, agree with everything, and sometimes bring presentations to the Secretary (big boss). Our opportunities are the same. We’ll come up with a figure of 100. No matter what. But here you got the plan for the year = 90, and I = 110. Everything is fine. Love the truth, prove that you yourself are not a liar.
    In the end, we worked well, to the best of our ability. You made a plan by 110%, and I - by 90%.
    Everything is normal in the region, there is a 100% plan. Five years later, you are a bearer, and I am in prison. All my specialists ran to you, you have a salary, bonuses, medals and orders. I ruined the farm. Everyone got what they deserve.



  • Tagan
    Tagan 6 May 2020 16: 39 New
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    Quote: Pavel57
    The Baltic states in the USSR were a showcase, and now the backyards.

    Baltic extinctions
  • borys
    borys 6 May 2020 17: 19 New
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    All these tables about who gave how much and who received how much,
    quite arbitrary. Another thing is important. While we were together, there was a strong
    and a rich power, and was enough for everyone. Well, except especially ambitious.
    After the section, everything became worse. Individual comrades whom
    minority healed very well. Russia in particular
    lost a lot of what was built and acquired over the centuries
    and the labors of many generations of our ancestors. The vast majority
    The current problems are precisely the consequence of this section.
    1. Altona
      Altona 6 May 2020 18: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: borys
      Another thing is important. While we were together, there was a strong
      and a rich power, and was enough for everyone.

      -------------------------
      Socialism had its own market, which included the USSR plus CMEA countries plus countries of the Third World, that is, Asia and Africa. Today this market is swallowed up by the USA, EU and China. Moreover, China is comparable to the USSR plus CMEA, it benefits only 465 million people (compare the USSR-282 million plus 60 million CMEA at one time), the rest of the population is rural poverty.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 6 May 2020 17: 32 New
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    So - it's one thing to feed the USSR from its 281 million population, and now they have to drag the entire "golden billion" on themselves to the poor, EU + USA + Canada + Australia, well, Japan and South Korea can be remembered - that's how many freeloaders!
    And what would they all do without Latvia now? Paw sucked?
  • vkd.dvk
    vkd.dvk 6 May 2020 20: 02 New
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    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: Mitroha

    Yes Yes. Immediately after receiving 150%

    Russia was a donor to ALL republics (except Belarus).

    And it is the Baltic states ate mostwhile giving away ... least of all.

    That’s why it was necessary to give them more than they earned, that’s the question ... negative

    So.
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 6 May 2020 22: 19 New
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    they just shout how much they gave us, we gave 100% to what they returned to us in the USSR - prove the opposite!)))
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 6 May 2020 22: 23 New
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    Quote: vkd.dvk
    Quote: Olgovich
    Quote: Mitroha

    Yes Yes. Immediately after receiving 150%

    Russia was a donor to ALL republics (except Belarus).
    And it is the Baltic states ate mostwhile giving away ... least of all.

    That’s why it was necessary to give them more than they earned, that’s the question ... negative

    So.

    I don’t agree, no matter how badly I feel about the new politics of Ukraine, she really helped in agriculture - she was not a parasite, about plants and mines without comment ...
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