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State Duma deputy from the Communist Party: The main significance of the victory of our people is embodied in the main temple of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

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Regarding the construction of the main temple of the Armed Forces of Russia, which will become the third largest Orthodox church in the country, various points of view are expressed. Some believe that the funds could be spent on social needs, including providing military personnel and members of their families. Others are convinced that the main temple of the RF Armed Forces is necessary. Still others believe that if the Armed Forces have their own main Orthodox church, then the main mosque must also be built, since representatives of the Muslim faith are also serving in the troops. In general, disputes continue, and the construction of the Church of the Resurrection is nearing completion.


The fund raised more than 3 billion rubles for the construction of the temple.

Sergey Gavrilov, head of the Duma committee on the development of civil society, on issues of public and religious associations, expressed his opinion on this matter. He believes that the significance of the victory of our people is embodied in the main temple of the Armed Forces of Russia. At the same time, the State Duma deputy recalls that on May 9, 1945, it happened on Wednesday of the Bright Week.

Sergey Gavrilov:

I believe that the result of the war was also the actual incarnation of Moscow as the Third Rome, and the fact that the Cathedral of Autocephalous Churches was held in Moscow.

The media reported that the head of the said committee of the State Duma of the Russian Federation sent letters of gratitude to the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia Kirill, as well as Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu for his efforts in preserving the memory and creating the church, “which is dedicated to the feat of the Russian Orthodox Church held with the people through the great trials of war. "

It remains to add to this information that Sergey Gavrilov represents the Communist Party faction in the State Duma.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation / Main Temple of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 5 May 2020 07: 24 New
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    Less tatupedu for his nonsense! I myself am an Orthodox Christian, but other confessions fought! We are waiting for the main synagogue of Russia, the main mosque of Russia, the main Buddhist temple of Russia and so on? ????
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 5 May 2020 07: 31 New
      -15
      Let other faiths take the initiative. Something is no longer heard of those who wish. So what's the problem?
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 5 May 2020 08: 27 New
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        collected more than 3 billion rubles.

        Where is the money, Zin?
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 5 May 2020 11: 42 New
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          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Where is the money, Zin?

          Heh heh heh ... evil tongues slander that the Resurrection charitable foundation, created to raise money for the church, received 950 million from the budget of the Moscow region and 2 billion from the budget of Moscow. Like this collection of donations from the budget.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 5 May 2020 14: 03 New
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            Sergei Gavrilov in the State Duma represents the Communist Party faction.

            On the example of Sergey Gavrilov, only one thing can be stated:
            Communist Party degenerated as a communist party - and for a long time!
            Such true communists in the Communist Party, such as Viktor Ilyukhin, were not left in it!

            By the example of the POLITICAL revisionist-compromiser Sergei Gavrilov from the Communist Party faction, the working people can celebrate according to the Communists of the Communist Party political WATCHES.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 5 May 2020 14: 43 New
              +6
              Sergei Gavrilov, head of the Duma committee on the development of civil society, on issues of public and religious associations, believes that the significance of the victory of our people is embodied in the main temple of the Armed Forces of Russia. At the same time, the State Duma deputy recalls that on May 9, 1945, it happened on Wednesday of the Bright Week.

              To this, obviously, we must add the following. Namely.
              The senior leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church in the church of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation obsequiously also cajoles the vanity of the current rulers of the Russian Federation.
              Moreover, the creeping clericalization of Russia is taking on new forms. Namely.

              On the walls of the main temple of the Armed Forces of Russia under construction, mosaic images of Vladimir Putin, Sergey Shoigu and Joseph Stalin will appear. According to Archpriest Leonid Kalinin, chairman of the art council for the construction of the temple, their appearance on the mosaic was not consistent with Putin and Shoigu.

              However, believers say this is a bad omen. Namely.
              The Saints say that before the end of their reign, the Rulers act as distraught (Deprivation of mind is God's punishment) which we observe! And then the end of such a rule, it has always been like this in history. The people rebelled and overthrew such a government that does not think about it.


              The Russian Orthodox Church explained the image of Putin in the church of the Ministry of Defense. • April 24. 2020
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 5 May 2020 15: 04 New
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                Quote: Tatiana
                On the walls of the main temple of the Armed Forces of Russia under construction, mosaic images of Vladimir Putin, Sergey Shoigu and Joseph Stalin will appear

                Votzhezhblin ... Tatyana, image already dismantled... it's Putin's fault, well, as always. Internet to help you yes
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 5 May 2020 15: 10 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Votzhezhblin ... Tatyana, the image has already been dismantled ... it's Putin's fault, well, as always. Internet to help you

                  A link to the removal of portraits of Putin and Shoigu, Roman, please give! And then I do not have such information on the dismantling of portraits of these personalities. Only with the Russian name of the link itselfotherwise I have a computer crash.
                  I will be very grateful to you for this. yes
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 5 May 2020 15: 12 New
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                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Give a link, Roman, please

                    Request: "temple putin mosaic"


                    The mosaic depicting Vladimir Putin was removed from the temple of the Armed Forces, taking into account the views of the president himself. They plan to preserve it, and in place of the old panel a new one will appear, with a procession in honor of the annexation of Crimea
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 5 May 2020 15: 37 New
                      +6
                      According to information from May 1, 2020, it became known.
                      The Russian Orthodox Church explained why they dismantled the mosaic with Putin from the army temple
                      The priest said that she would be transferred to another place.

                      Earlier, there was already a conversation that, possibly, a mosaic panel depicting Putin, Shoigu, Matvienko, Voloshin and other official Russian people will be dismantled and placed in the same church of the Russian Ministry of Defense, but in a different place that is not intended for visiting and viewing ordinary believers of the congregation.

                      One way or another, creeping clericalization in the Russian Federation from under the floor is preserved.
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            3. Antagonist
              Antagonist 5 May 2020 15: 27 New
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              Quote: Tatiana
              working people can celebrate political commemoration for Communists of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation

              What is true is true. Only one name is left of the Communist Party. The compromise policy of the Communist Party brought the communist movement to a standstill.
        2. Voyager
          Voyager 5 May 2020 13: 16 New
          -5
          How much is the memory of the defenders of the motherland? Think with your head next time before blurt out something.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 5 May 2020 14: 06 New
            +9
            Quote: Voyager
            How much is the memory of the defenders of the motherland?

            The memory of the defenders of the motherland - These are the raised, identified and reburied remains of the missing. And not a pompous temple of one religion in an amusement park, built in a secular state with state money.
            1. Voyager
              Voyager 5 May 2020 18: 44 New
              -3
              You forgot to mention that this is just a private, your personal opinion.

              In addition, "Patriot" is not only an amusement park, but also a complex that includes a museum and other cultural sites.

              Make a proposal for a multi-religious temple, what else to say.
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 5 May 2020 18: 59 New
                +4
                Quote: Voyager
                You forgot to mention that this is just a private, your personal opinion.

                In the comments, each opinion is a priori personal.
                With the exception of those in which the author rips a shirt on his chest, speaking on behalf of the whole people.
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 5 May 2020 23: 58 New
              +5
              Quote: Alexey RA
              The memory of the defenders of the motherland is the raised, identified and reburied remains of the missing. And not a pompous temple of one religion in an amusement park, built in a secular state with state money.

              quite right! hi
          2. iouris
            iouris 5 May 2020 14: 38 New
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            The best monument to the fallen is an advanced country, a strong, confidently looking people into the future.
            1. Voyager
              Voyager 5 May 2020 18: 49 New
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              Just don’t say that this temple prevents you from looking to the future and developing.
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 5 May 2020 09: 46 New
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        Quote: Voyager
        Let other faiths take the initiative. Something is no longer heard of those who wish. So what's the problem?

        What the fuck ?! What are you talking about ???
        I have a real impression that many in our country are crazy !!!
        Uto even said that my grandfathers who died in the war were believers?
        Why is this temple needed if the entrance to it is, in fact, paid? And why did it appear in an amusement park?
        How did the images of modern mmmm .... ambiguous personalities appear in the Orthodox church?
        Honestly, all this obscurantism, just reminds devilry and occultism.
        1. Voyager
          Voyager 5 May 2020 13: 13 New
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          And what are you talking about at least once? Does the world revolve specifically around your grandfathers? Do not like it - do not go, what's the problem? And drink valerian, since it infuriates you so much. I myself am not a believer, but a temple built in honor of the defenders of the Motherland is a good idea.
        2. lis-ik
          lis-ik 5 May 2020 17: 51 New
          +2
          Quote: Stroporez
          Honestly, all this obscurantism just reminds devilry and the occult

          Very similar in appearance to the temple from the horror movie by Stephen King. I don’t remember the name, but the film is above average. There was about the same gloomy temple.
      3. MstislavHrabr
        MstislavHrabr 5 May 2020 12: 23 New
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        The temple must have a parish. Otherwise, this is not a temple but a passage yard ...
        At best, a museum ...
    2. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 5 May 2020 07: 38 New
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      And atheists want more schools instead of religious buildings.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 5 May 2020 08: 39 New
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        And the hospitals as well as the doctors so well optimized
      2. Snail N9
        Snail N9 5 May 2020 08: 44 New
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        Honestly, this is an intensely general "church building" and especially a "bureaucratic trip" to religion with the manifestation of religiosity in public and the installation-hanging of religious attributes in their workplaces, this is not faith, this is religious hypocrisy:
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 5 May 2020 09: 22 New
          +3
          State Duma deputy from the Communist Party: The main significance of the victory of our people is embodied in the main temple of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation

          Since, to some extent, an article about Victory in the Great Patriotic War, I consider it appropriate to post here a material about awarding the "buried media" and the "recently miraculously resurrected" leader of the DPRK with an anniversary medal.

          75th ANNIVERSARY OF VICTORY MAY 5, 08:11 TASS

          Kim Jong-Un awarded the Russian Victory Medal

          DPRK Leader Awarded for Great Contribution to the Perpetuation of the Memory of Soviet Soldiers

          Pyongyang, may 5. / TASS /. DPRK State Council Chairman Kim Jong-Un was awarded the Russian Victory Medal on the eve of the 75th anniversary of this event for his great contribution to perpetuating the memory of Soviet soldiers who died in 1945 during the liberation of Korea. This was announced on Tuesday by the Russian Embassy in Pyongyang on its Facebook page.

          "In accordance with the decree of the President of the Russian Federation, Chairman of the State Council of the DPRK Kim Jong-un was awarded the jubilee medal" 75 years of Victory in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945 "for his great personal contribution to perpetuating the memory of Soviet citizens who died and buried on the territory of the DPRK and their concern about the safety of the burials and memorials of Soviet soldiers in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, "the Russian diplomatic mission said.

          It is noted that the medal was solemnly handed over on May 5 by Russian Ambassador Alexander Matsegora to DPRK Foreign Minister Lee Song Gwon at the Mansude Convention Center in Pyongyang. After the ceremony of handing over the medal, the Russian ambassador and the Korean foreign minister had a short conversation, "during which the disposition was confirmed to continue active efforts to consistently implement the agreements reached in April 2019 in Vladivostok by the leaders of the two countries aimed at further developing and strengthening the multifaceted Russian Korean Cooperation ".

          According to the embassy, ​​in the DPRK there are 11 mass and 345 separate graves in which 1 Soviet troops were buried. In the battles for the liberation of Korea in 375, more than 1945 thousand Soviet soldiers died and died from wounds. One of the main attractions of Pyongyang is the Liberation Monument - a monument located on the Moranbon Hill in the center of the Korean capital, a monument to the Soviet military who died in the battles for the liberation of Korea from Japanese occupation in 4,7.
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 5 May 2020 15: 38 New
          +5
          Quote: Snail N9
          Honestly, this is an intensely general "temple building" and especially a "bureaucratic campaign" in religion with the manifestation of religiosity in public and the installation-hanging of religious attributes in their workplaces, this is not faith, this is religious hypocrisy

          Or an attempt to overshadow the real problems.
          I recall a well-known case of the times of a furniture maker, when during his visit on September 30, 2010 to the Seltsy training center, it turned out that the repair of the dining room had not been completed, the repair of engineering networks had not been completed (September 30 (!)), But the temple of Elijah the Prophet was built.
      3. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 5 May 2020 10: 32 New
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        Quote: Pessimist22
        And atheists want more schools instead of religious buildings.

        Not only atheists, but everyone wants hospitals, schools, theaters, libraries, cultural palaces, stadiums., Museums, cinemas.
        And now let's look and compare what Lukashenko built in the center of Minsk and how many tiles were transferred and what the Maskvabad julmans built.
        This is the National Library in Minsk.

        1. blackice
          blackice 5 May 2020 10: 37 New
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          Now let's see and compare what Lukashenko built in the center of Minsk

          Atheist !!!! laughing
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 5 May 2020 10: 47 New
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            Quote: blackice
            Atheist !!!!

            worse, the agent of the gas department and the medical treatment. wassat
        2. Sasha Minakov
          Sasha Minakov 5 May 2020 11: 15 New
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          NOT HE BUILT. WALKED AROUND THE WORLD. And this mustachioed Russophobe will end badly. Yanukovych number 2. And yes - Minsk, not a bad city. To conditional Yekaterinburg he is like to the moon, but in any case better than Kiev.
      4. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 5 May 2020 10: 52 New
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        The patriarch said that 3 churches a day appear in Russia. The number of enterprises, FAPs, rural schools shows the opposite trend. And was the collection of these 3 lards so voluntary?
        1. Antagonist
          Antagonist 5 May 2020 15: 28 New
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          What do you want from our capitalists? They do not need smart and thinking people, they need obedient slaves.
    3. blackice
      blackice 5 May 2020 09: 28 New
      +3
      Let's not forget whose murals are in that temple.
      And then it will really be clear why and for whom it was built. wassat
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 5 May 2020 09: 56 New
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        Quote: blackice
        Let's not forget whose murals are in that temple.
        And then it will really be clear why and for whom it was built. wassat

        Frescoes with Putin and Co. will not be removed
        1. blackice
          blackice 5 May 2020 10: 36 New
          +8
          Frescoes with Putin and Co. will not be removed

          .... Fima, we later found spoons, but the sediment still remained. wassat
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 5 May 2020 12: 46 New
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            Quote: blackice
            but the sediment still remained.

            Forget tomorrow
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 5 May 2020 11: 21 New
          +5
          Quote: RUSS
          Frescoes with Putin and Co. will not be removed

          Who could encroach on the sacred?
          Apparently this masterpiece was saved on the grave pantheon.
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 5 May 2020 12: 48 New
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            Quote: Stroporez
            Quote: RUSS
            Frescoes with Putin and Co. will not be removed

            Who could encroach on the sacred?
            Apparently this masterpiece was saved on the grave pantheon.

            Mosaic with Putin in the temple will not be, it is likely to be installed in the museum.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 5 May 2020 12: 55 New
              +9
              Quote: RUSS
              Mosaic with Putin in the temple will not be, it is likely to be installed in the museum.

              I propose to the Kunstkamera in Leningrad, there are many netanalagafvmir there! good
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 5 May 2020 10: 34 New
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        Quote: blackice
        Let's not forget whose murals are in that temple.
        And then it will really be clear why and for whom it was built.

        Satan rules the ball there ....
    4. Megatron
      Megatron 5 May 2020 11: 18 New
      +7
      A strange affair: the priests for Stalin are campaigning, and the commies for the priests ....
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 5 May 2020 12: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: Megatron
        A strange affair: the priests for Stalin are campaigning, and the commies for the priests ....

        This is exactly good
  2. Ataka smertnikov
    Ataka smertnikov 5 May 2020 07: 24 New
    -25
    Beautiful Temple though !!! No wonder he is so hawked in certain circles ..
    1. Maki maki
      Maki maki 5 May 2020 07: 29 New
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      Beautiful Temple though !!! No wonder he is so hated in certain circles

      Khayut temples are not for architecture, but for their number.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 5 May 2020 07: 38 New
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        No need to write stupidity, it is not a matter of quantity, but of their effect on people. But in this matter they are not strong and are even inferior to Hollywood.
        1. Maki maki
          Maki maki 5 May 2020 07: 46 New
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          it's not about quantity, but about their impact on people

          Exactly. Quality turned into quantity. And often people see, to put it mildly, the insincerity of temple attendants.
          1. Pessimist22
            Pessimist22 5 May 2020 07: 50 New
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            A bit of what I know about religion
            1. The more often a person remembers God in his speeches, the more diligently I follow my wallet. Mark Twain, writer
            2. If you are talking to God, this is prayer, and if God is talking to you, then this is schizophrenia!
            - Benjamin Johnson Lang
            3. There is no God in my theory, because I did not need this hypothesis. Pierre Laplace, astronomer
            4. Blind faith has very evil eyes. Stanislav Lets,
            5. The words of faith are often repeated, not because they are true, but because they are often repeated. Oscar Wilde,
            6. Religious beliefs are an excellent excuse to do nasty things to people. Richard Aldington, writer
            7. The church is a place where gentlemen who have never been to heaven tell fables about them to those who never get there. Henry Mencken, critic
            1. arlekin
              arlekin 5 May 2020 08: 11 New
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              I like George Carlin’s:
              "Religion is like a penis. It's okay if you have one. It's nice if you are proud of it. But please, don't reach out or wave it in public."
              And please don't try to slip it on my kids. "
            2. knn54
              knn54 5 May 2020 08: 28 New
              +7
              "There are many faiths, and all are dissimilar,
              What does heresy, sin, Islam mean?
              I have chosen love for you, God!
              Everything else is insignificant rubbish!
              Omar Khayyam
            3. mikh-korsakov
              mikh-korsakov 5 May 2020 09: 08 New
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              There is not a single Russian writer on the list! What is it for? The irony in these statements is the first step towards banning urinals and creating toilets with five toilets for five floors. Atheism as a sermon is a religion of the satiated.
              1. Pessimist22
                Pessimist22 5 May 2020 09: 22 New
                +7
                Freedom sower is a desert,
                I went out early, to the star;
                A clean and innocent hand
                In the enslaved reins
                Threw a life-giving seed -
                But I lost only time,
                Good thoughts and labors ...

                Ride, peaceful people!
                You will not be awakened by the call.
                Why herds of gifts of freedom?
                They should be cut or cut.
                Their inheritance from generation to generation
                Yarmo with rattles and scourge.

                AS Pushkin 1823. The Russians wrote about this much earlier than some.
                1. mikh-korsakov
                  mikh-korsakov 5 May 2020 09: 44 New
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                  Igor! Well, Pushkin wrote a lot of things, but he, yes, was an atheist. Although he eagerly drank with priest Larion in Mikhailovsky, he succumbed and entered into religious disputes, they quarreled, the priest left, and in the morning Pushkin himself came to put up with him. That's right, it’s easier, not so serious. But although Pushkin was an atheist, the last summer of his life in the Svyatogorsky monastery to work about his mother’s grave there came. And I looked for a place for myself. That is, while we are young and healthy - yes, please God, albeit an atheist. But in moments of fatal man thinks.
                  1. Pessimist22
                    Pessimist22 5 May 2020 10: 00 New
                    0
                    Pushkin was an enlightened man for his time! He didn’t just write, he did it for enlightenment! Place in the monastery ... He kept our traditions! Pushkin is our cultural heritage! And religion is our traditions, atavism inherited from our ancestors.
                  2. Insurgent
                    Insurgent 5 May 2020 10: 01 New
                    +4
                    Quote: mikh-korsakov
                    he drank with priest Larion in Mikhailovsky eagerly, succumbed, entered into religious disputes, they quarreled, the priest left, and in the morning Pushkin himself came to reconcile with him.

                    So here it comes from what - "A TALE ABOUT POP AND ABOUT THE EMPLOYEE OF HIS BALDA" ...
              2. halpat
                halpat 5 May 2020 09: 37 New
                -2
                Quote: mikh-korsakov
                There is not a single Russian writer on the list! What is it for? The irony in these statements is the first step towards banning urinals and creating toilets with five toilets for five floors. Atheism as a sermon is a religion of the satiated.

                I agree with you completely!

                And the temple is very good! good
          2. Ros 56
            Ros 56 5 May 2020 07: 56 New
            +6
            Well, there probably never was sincerity there, but they were like us, and now you look at their Mercia and level of affluence, and somehow you don’t want to go there.
        2. Antagonist
          Antagonist 5 May 2020 15: 39 New
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          Quote: Ros 56
          inferior even to Hollywood

          In matters of influence on people, Hollywood is inferior to all. yes
      2. Ataka smertnikov
        Ataka smertnikov 5 May 2020 07: 44 New
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        Quote: Maki Maki
        Beautiful Temple though !!! No wonder he is so hated in certain circles

        Khayut temples are not for architecture, but for their number.

        Well, here I disagree a little .. It's just that there are no fewer churches in the West, and even in the US anthem there are the words "God bless America" ​​.. And no one blames them for this, because they are afraid ..
        And in Russia, Orthodoxy is the core of statehood, I'm not afraid of this word .. Do you remember the slogan "For Faith, Tsar, and Fatherland" in Tsarist Russia? So Vera was in the first place ..
        And it’s not ripe now such a high in "our media" on Orthodoxy, what kind of mud they do not pour .. Now for some reason they have calmed down a little .. Well, this is just a respite .. They will undermine the Faith, there will be no Russia! I have the honor, gentlemen !!!
        1. Deniska999
          Deniska999 5 May 2020 07: 49 New
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          Firstly, we have mentions of God in the hymn, and secondly, claims are not against religion itself, believe what you want, but to the clergy, which are completely divorced from life and stuck in the XVIII century, its hypocrisy and hypocrisy.
          1. Ataka smertnikov
            Ataka smertnikov 5 May 2020 07: 59 New
            -6
            Quote: Deniska999
            secondly, claims not to religion itself, believe what you want, but to the clergy, which are completely divorced from life and stuck in the XVIII century, its hypocrisy and hypocrisy.

            Maybe so .. I don't really trust priests either, so to speak communist education ..))) And faith in the soul and when you look at the temple and listen to the bell ringing in your soul it becomes brighter .. Who is what and how? And there is also a Russian saying "There are no atheists in the war .." and these are not just empty words, but with a deep meaning .. Nobody imposes Orthodoxy on anyone, believe it or not ... But people go to churches both old and young , because the Russian soul demands to believe in something .. God be your judge and everyone else .. hi
            1. Cryvedco
              Cryvedco 5 May 2020 08: 28 New
              +4
              Quote: Ataka smertnikov
              there is a saying among Russians "There are no atheists in war .."

              This is not with the Russians. One fool the bourgeois philosopher said, the rest are now repeating.
            2. Alex Justice
              Alex Justice 5 May 2020 17: 46 New
              -1
              Mavrodi also believed. So at least he was punished for cheating, but the church is impossible, holy.
              Religion is a business. You give me money, I promise you in the next world.
          2. Moore
            Moore 5 May 2020 08: 54 New
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            You do not know, dear Deniska999, why the priests of the Orthodox are accused of the sins you indicated, but they are completely tolerant of the clergy, for example, Muslim and Jewish? Are their dogmas more progressive? They are not stuck anywhere? Is there less hypocrisy and hypocrisy?
            1. Deniska999
              Deniska999 5 May 2020 09: 21 New
              +2
              For example, behavior during coronavirus. Catholics immediately canceled the services, the pontiff read sermons on an empty square in front of St. Petra, Muslims also closed mosques (and even Mecca), but what about us? Until the last persisted in the spirit of "the virus does not spread in the temple." Yes, and the sacrament with one spoon, brr, unsanitary conditions.
              PS And to defend in the spirit of “since nothing changes for them, that means we can not change” is not productive. So we would still live in the Middle Ages.
              1. Moore
                Moore 5 May 2020 12: 25 New
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                Quote: Deniska999
                Until the last persisted in the spirit of "the virus does not spread in the temple." Yes, and the sacrament with one spoon, brr, unsanitary conditions.

                You twist. Everywhere about the same thing. To crawl into the mouth of a layman with the "body of Christ" for Catholics is still hygiene.
                And yes, Catholics and Protestants are much more progressive. Take for example the same same-sex weddings - almost a civilizational breakthrough.
        2. lwxx
          lwxx 5 May 2020 07: 50 New
          +8
          And it’s not ripe now such a high in "our media" on Orthodoxy, what kind of mud they do not pour .. Now for some reason they have quieted down a little .. Well, this is just a respite .. They will undermine Faith, there will be no Russia
          Faith is being torn apart by "priests businessmen". Look how many LLC are registered in the main church, but I don't want to talk about the rest.
          1. Ataka smertnikov
            Ataka smertnikov 5 May 2020 08: 02 New
            +1
            Quote: lwxx
            Faith is being torn apart by "priests businessmen". Look how many LLC are registered in the main church, but I don't want to talk about the rest.

            She has faith in her soul, and everything else is an application .. Even if all the temples are destroyed and the priests are shot (there was such an experiment until the age of 41) And faith cannot be recovered from the soul, no power and money ..
            1. lwxx
              lwxx 5 May 2020 08: 05 New
              +4
              Vera is in her soul, and the rest of the application
              But nobody argues with this. If there is no god in the heart, then it is useless to seek him out in the temple.
              1. Ataka smertnikov
                Ataka smertnikov 5 May 2020 08: 13 New
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                Quote: lwxx
                Vera is in her soul, and the rest of the application
                But nobody argues with this. If there is no god in the heart, then it is useless to seek him out in the temple.

                That’s why the cons went rampant .. They bite the last core of Russia BELIEVE, a lot of demons divorced ..
                Read Dostoevsky's "Demons" ... hi
                1. Pessimist22
                  Pessimist22 5 May 2020 08: 53 New
                  +8
                  "Holy Russia is a wooden country, poor and ... dangerous, a country of vain beggars in the highest strata of its own, and in the vast majority lives in huts on chicken legs."
                  F.M.Dostoevsky "Demons"
                  1. halpat
                    halpat 5 May 2020 09: 47 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Pessimist22
                    "Holy Russia is a wooden country, poor and ... dangerous, a country of vain beggars in the highest strata of its own, and in the vast majority lives in huts on chicken legs."
                    F.M.Dostoevsky "Demons"

                    From Dostoevsky it is possible to pull, pass off as his opinion and then trump it with this, on occasion, before those who have not read (the majority).
                    Unfinished propaganda :)
                    1. Pessimist22
                      Pessimist22 5 May 2020 10: 34 New
                      +1
                      Before those who have not read but condemn?
                    2. Sklendarka
                      Sklendarka 5 May 2020 17: 41 New
                      +1
                      ,, ... If the holy man clicks,
                      Throw you Russia, live in Paradise!
                      I will say, don’t need Paradise,
                      Give my Motherland ... "
                      (S. Yesenin)
                      Someone of yours against ...
                2. Moore
                  Moore 5 May 2020 09: 04 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Ataka smertnikov
                  demons divorced a lot

                  Alas, "demons" in the broadest sense of this concept, really divorced immeasurably ... Starting from the everyday level.
                  And as for the local "overthrowers" who brand the Orthodox priests, but hide their tongues in the aphedron, when some followers of another religion slaughter rams in their yard, this is from a misunderstanding that a priest of any faith, even though he is a "servant of God", the same little man made of meat and bones - but not the Savior even once.
                  This is how to draw a conclusion from a drunken singing teacher, who pestering high school students, about the uselessness of secondary education.
                3. tatra
                  tatra 5 May 2020 10: 08 New
                  +3
                  How badly do you treat Russia and the Russian people, if for you priests, religious fanatics, their places of worship are the "core" of Russia, which holds Russia and the Russian people.
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 5 May 2020 11: 01 New
                    +3
                    Quote: tatra
                    How badly do you treat Russia and the Russian people, if for you priests, religious fanatics, their places of worship are the "core" of Russia, which holds Russia and the Russian people.

                    Wait a minute, Colleague! What is Russia holding on to there?
                    I naive always thought that the people, and you have some kind of new modern theory.
                    Tell us how the Gundyaev, barefoot and with a knapsack, addressed the flock.
                    I am not against religion and its adherents, but in our case, the "guides" somehow behave too immodestly, thereby discrediting the title of priest, derived from the word saint.
                    1. tatra
                      tatra 5 May 2020 11: 03 New
                      +3
                      And your answer exactly relates to my atheistic comment?
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 5 May 2020 11: 16 New
                        +3
                        Quote: tatra
                        And your answer exactly relates to my atheistic comment?

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                4. Kronos
                  Kronos 5 May 2020 10: 08 New
                  +7
                  The country does not stand on faith but on people who think and know how
            2. lisiy prapor
              lisiy prapor 5 May 2020 15: 23 New
              +1
              Quote: Ataka smertnikov
              She’s faith in her soul, and the rest of the application .. If even all the temples to be destroyed and priests to shoot (there was such an experiment until the age of 41)

              Quote: Ataka smertnikov
              She’s faith in her soul, and the rest of the application .. If even all the temples to be destroyed and priests to shoot (there was such an experiment until the age of 41)

              No need to juggle. If everyone had been shot, then believe me, they would have been stupid. Only those who first agitated against the Soviet regime were shot, and then a moleben was held for the victory of German weapons. Teach history not according to Shura Solzhenitsyn. don't mind what she wouldn’t wear up.
        3. Maki maki
          Maki maki 5 May 2020 08: 04 New
          +4
          It's just that there are no fewer churches in the west, and even in the US anthem there are the words "God bless America" ​​.. And no one accuses them of this, because they are afraid.

          Yes that's right. But! They all go measured, is part of ordinary life. We rush from one extreme to another. It became fashionable to be Orthodox - temples began to multiply. And one more observation: in the churches themselves, ordinary priests are still sincere, but the higher, in the Dioceses, there is often politics and business.
          1. Mikhail m
            Mikhail m 5 May 2020 11: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: Maki Maki
            And one more observation: in the churches themselves, ordinary priests are still sincere, but the higher, in the Dioceses, there is often politics and business.

            I observed the same thing in the CPSU.
        4. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 5 May 2020 08: 18 New
          12
          Good time suicide bomber (although it’s much nicer to talk by name). Yes, Russia is an Orthodox country, faith has always been the core of the nation-NOOOO !!!! When the mediator between God and man behaves like the last cattle, what will be the relationship? 70 thousandth town Four churches. So three young chicks are rolled out in jeeps and constantly asking for help from enterprises and mine workers. When the new Temple was built, then two city krutysh (Gazprom and the parliament) ordered their names on the bells. What do you think will be parishioners last it? Now go back to the lessons of Orthodoxy in schools and freedom vybora.Esli so all will go, then I'll turn to the orthodox militant atheist.
          1. Ataka smertnikov
            Ataka smertnikov 5 May 2020 09: 47 New
            -4
            Quote: zadorin1974
            Good time suicide bomber (although it’s much nicer to communicate by name).

            Well, for whom it’s good, but for me they don’t really kick the crowd again ..! hi
            Quote: zadorin1974
            Yes, Russia is an Orthodox country, faith has always been the core of the nation-NOOOO !!!! When the mediator between God and man behaves like the last cattle, what will be the relationship? We have four churches in the 70th town. jeeps and constantly ask for help on enterprises and ipeshnikov.

            Well, let them not! What are they doing at the muzzle of the machine? Looks like they want to pray for their sins, as well as during the construction of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior ..
            I was treated for a heart attack (heart surgery) in the regional clinical hospital (all for free) .. So there, in the courtyard, the Temple is small, but very beautiful .. Father also drove a jeep there So what? I didn’t see crowds in the church, but when you look out of the window or just take a walk, it’s good at heart, maybe this also affected the cure .. I wouldn’t regret the money .. And in my homeland the mosque is big and obviously not cheap .. And Orthodox church huddles in a hut, which is 60 years old .. Although the majority of the population are Orthodox! No one is indignant. All exactly .. Recently, some businessman gave the church a bell .. A beautiful ringing, it takes a soul !!!! Nobody forces anyone, all on a voluntary basis ..
            Such things are in the watered department of the front ..))))
            1. Kronos
              Kronos 5 May 2020 10: 09 New
              +4
              Yes they do. Most in the country non-believers percent 15 maximum believers of all faiths
        5. ALARI
          ALARI 5 May 2020 08: 19 New
          +7
          Kernel? Please do not wishful thinking.
        6. alexmach
          alexmach 5 May 2020 08: 48 New
          12
          And in Russia, Orthodoxy is the core of statehood, I'm not afraid of this word .. Do you remember the slogan "For Faith, Tsar, and Fatherland" in Tsarist Russia?

          Tsarist Russia fell due to its inability to respond to the challenges of our time. And you are trying to pull on today's ideology for nothing capable of anything for more than 100 years!
          1. Ataka smertnikov
            Ataka smertnikov 5 May 2020 09: 58 New
            -5
            Quote: alexmach
            And you are trying to pull on today's ideology for nothing capable of anything for more than 100 years!

            It is difficult to argue with you, but without Vera Russia will not be able to exist .. Belief in the "golden calf" in the 90s tried to impose on us certain circles, but thank God it did not take root .. Now Orthodoxy is actively trampled on and it also does not work .. wink
            Quote: alexmach
            Tsarist Russia fell due to inability to respond to the challenges of our time

            Tsarist Russia fell under the chatter of liberal .. The Bolsheviks took power (although they were a minority at first) But they simply could interest people and almost succeed Soviet Union will forever remain in the history of mankind as a country creator .. Well, it’s useless to write further on! We are on different sides of the trenches Alas! hi
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 5 May 2020 10: 52 New
              +7
              Tsarist Russia fell under the chatter of liberal

              Truth? from chatter?
              And not from rampant poverty, lack of rights and the complete hopelessness of life for the vast majority of the population?
              Not from a lag of 100 years or even more in development?
              Not from the full imoption of the "ilita" and the Walasti, including in the ideological plane?
              From chatter nothing fell anywhere and never!
            2. Antagonist
              Antagonist 5 May 2020 15: 37 New
              10
              Quote: Ataka smertnikov
              Tsarist Russia fell under the chatter of liberal

              Tsarism has fallen because of the lack of rights of the common people, because of rampant poverty, because the authorities did not strive for progress. The people did not need such power and he rebelled.
        7. blackice
          blackice 5 May 2020 09: 52 New
          +1
          Come on, faith in the civilian helped a lot? How many died for faith?
          Which side was faith on?
          However, during the Second World War "For the Motherland! For Stalin!" many more people died, with the overwhelming majority sincerely giving their lives.
          I dare to remind you that earlier, during "idolatry", in the days before Orthodoxy, people went to fight for their homeland and were judged by the TRUTH.
          For the faith, the Orthodox, whole villages were burned in order to impose it on idolaters.
          So let's not talk too much about it, how and what was in the first place, and especially why.
          Atheism, Orthodoxy, Judaism ..... Each has its own point of view and relationship with humanity.
        8. Antagonist
          Antagonist 5 May 2020 15: 38 New
          12
          Quote: Ataka smertnikov
          And in Russia, Orthodoxy is the core of statehood.

          Kernel? The core of Russian statehood is a people, whose number from year to year is getting smaller.
      3. Fedorovich
        Fedorovich 5 May 2020 08: 04 New
        +4
        For architecture, too - this crazy kitsch is frankly embarrassed.
    2. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO 5 May 2020 07: 29 New
      +8
      Beautiful Temple though !!!
      After the trash was removed from the mosaic wall, the temple really became beautiful yes . he he wink
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 5 May 2020 10: 51 New
        +3
        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        After the garbage was removed from the mosaic wall, the temple really became beautiful. he he

        Greetings, Kamrad! hi drinks And what is the garbage removed? Mustache on this subject are silent sad
        1. DEDPIHTO
          DEDPIHTO 5 May 2020 11: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: Stroporez
          Quote: DEPHIHTO
          After the garbage was removed from the mosaic wall, the temple really became beautiful. he he

          Greetings, Kamrad! hi drinks And what is the garbage removed? Mustache on this subject are silent sad

          Hi colleague! hi Yes, the garbage was removed, the mustache secretary noted on this topic on April 26, instead of himself .. Look below, I conducted a small investigation smile
    3. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 5 May 2020 10: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: Ataka smertnikov
      Beautiful Temple though !!! No wonder he is so hawked in certain circles ..

      Cons, too, is not for nothing that they put you. good
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 5 May 2020 10: 50 New
      -7
      Quote: Ataka smertnikov
      Beautiful Temple though !!! No wonder he is so hawked in certain circles ..

      If a synagogue had been erected instead of a temple, then most of those who spoke negatively about the temple and posted pictures with crosses on the road would now be emphatically admired. I believe that if you go out of the village, throw the stars of David in the mud, take a picture of this mockery of the creed and put it on the site, then the moderator would have been bombarded with complaints, and they would have banished those who posted this obscenity. But indecency in relation to the cross of the Orthodox and Christian faith, is not considered an insult to the feelings of believers. Today is a feast at obscurantists, let them rage. Temple to be !!! Not built for a day, but for centuries !!!
      1. tatra
        tatra 5 May 2020 10: 59 New
        +7
        Firstly, you, the enemies of the Communists, after your capture of Russia, stumbled upon a huge number of not only churches and temples, but also mosques and synagogues, and made the Russian people not even a “second”, but a “third grade” after Jews and Muslims. Secondly, you have a sick, perverted logic - if people are against one religion, then they must be for another religion.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 5 May 2020 11: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: tatra
          First of all, you, the enemies of the Communists, after your capture of Russia

          Firstly, Irina, it’s not necessary to indiscriminately label the enemies of the Communists at all. The time period that Russia has passed from 1917 to 1991, I consider one of the best in its history since It was during this period that Russia achieved the greatest successes in all areas - in science, medicine, education, industry and defense. Since the 1991 election, I have always voted against candidates from Edra and other liberotas, which I intend to do in the upcoming elections to the State Duma in 2021 and in the presidential election in 2024.
          Quote: tatra
          poked a huge number of not only churches and temples, but also mosques and synagogues
          Let them stand. There is time to scatter stones, there is time to collect them. At least, looking at the ruins of the destroyed temples and churches, I sincerely regret that they were brought into such a deplorable state simply on the basis that I am sorry not religious objects, but cultural objects i.e. historical monuments of our culture.
          Quote: tatra
          у You sick, perverse logic -if people are against one religion, then they must be for another religion

          belay What !!! This is something new! In your opinion, it turns out that people of one faith MAY mock the symbols and people of another faith? In the process, this is your perverse logic.
    5. Antagonist
      Antagonist 5 May 2020 15: 28 New
      +9
      Quote: Ataka smertnikov
      Beautiful Temple yet

      Nice. And what can this beauty give Russia?
  3. Far B
    Far B 5 May 2020 07: 31 New
    20
    Still others believe that if the Armed Forces have their own main Orthodox church, then the main mosque should also be built, since representatives of the Muslim faith are also serving in the troops.
    And the synagogue. And to bring more field guards from Otto Katsev into the ranks of the RF Armed Forces. No, well, really, the charismatic character turned out))) Then we can expect the appearance of a new Hasek and a new immortal "Schweik".
    In general, the top of the Communist Party, of course, anneals. Novikov blurted out that the Communist Party’s program was essentially a petty-bourgeois program; now this religion has hit.
    Honest noble word, I myself, a member of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (ordinary, by conviction), I can’t wait until this scum, led by Zyuganov, is washed off to hell.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 5 May 2020 07: 47 New
      +7
      Quote: Dalny V
      In general, the top of the Communist Party, of course, anneals. Novikov blurted out that the Communist Party’s program was essentially a petty-bourgeois program; now this religion has hit.

      A little more and they will begin to talk about the victory of the Russian Orthodox Church in the Second World War with little participation of the peoples of the USSR.
      To paraphrase the well-known: either I would wear underpants, or leave the Communist Party!
    2. Antagonist
      Antagonist 5 May 2020 15: 31 New
      10
      Quote: Dalny V
      the top of the Communist Party, of course, anneals

      The top of the Communist Party has long been no longer communists. It is not clear only why ordinary party members and regional committees will not convene a party congress and will not remove these from the Central Committee.
    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 5 May 2020 15: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Dalny V
      Novikov blurted out that the Communist Party’s program was essentially a petty-bourgeois program; now this religion has hit.

      All within the framework of party discipline. Since grandfather Zyu joined the relics, then the rest of the party should support the next bend of the party’s general line.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 5 May 2020 18: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Since grandfather Zyu joined the relics, then the rest of the party should support the next bend of the party’s general line.

        He climbed out of turn. laughing
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 May 2020 07: 32 New
    +3
    And I was surprised by the speed of construction. Such a large-scale construction and with such a scope and pace. Clearly, on time. We can, we can, when necessary ...
    1. ALARI
      ALARI 5 May 2020 08: 21 New
      +2
      Rather, when NOT necessary.
    2. APIS
      APIS 5 May 2020 08: 33 New
      +6
      Fse is very simple.
      They did not announce a tender for 44FZ.
    3. Antagonist
      Antagonist 5 May 2020 15: 34 New
      10
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And I was surprised by the speed of construction

      Temples are generally built very quickly and in large numbers, unlike schools.
  5. Angelo Provolone
    Angelo Provolone 5 May 2020 07: 35 New
    0
    crawled cirill to the glands
  6. Avior
    Avior 5 May 2020 07: 36 New
    +2
    My parents told me that they brought me to baptize in a neighboring region, my father was a communist, and if I had known, I would have been very strong on the party line.
    And now here are the communists who went .....
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 5 May 2020 09: 30 New
      +4
      Sergei! Everyone has a different way! My mother baptized me in a church near our house, and my father is a communist, yes. I didn’t go to the temple - I stood nearby. He respected his mother’s faith, and he himself never spoke on these topics. And rightly so.
  7. Antidote
    Antidote 5 May 2020 07: 37 New
    11
    Just some kind of sur. Some kakonizyut living king, others advocate for the temples with which they fought during their formation. Competition obscurantism, not otherwise.
    1. mole
      mole 5 May 2020 07: 47 New
      0
      Quote: Antidote
      Just some kind of sur. Some kakonizyut living king, others advocate for the temples with which they fought during their formation. Competition obscurantism, not otherwise.

      They didn’t fight with temples or religion. They fought with the priests who supported the king. Destruction of temples is only a consequence.
      1. Antidote
        Antidote 5 May 2020 07: 52 New
        +9
        Well, the spiral of history. The new king, the new support of the priests, but, as it turns out, the Communist Party is also not averse to licking.
        And no one cares about the "secular state", it's all sad.
    2. Antagonist
      Antagonist 5 May 2020 15: 35 New
      10
      Quote: Antidote
      Obscurantism contest, not otherwise

      A simple lack of understanding of what people want
  8. Amateur
    Amateur 5 May 2020 07: 37 New
    12
    construction main temple Russian Armed Forces

    In general, the temple is the house of God, and not of individual departments or persons, and for the perpetuation of outstanding events in a "secular" spirit, there are "Triumphal Arches", monuments, etc.
    Corresponds to the canons of the Russian Orthodox Church and suggests a canonical naming:
    saints
    holidays
    icons (wiki)

    So the name "the main temple of the RF Armed Forces" contradicts the church canons and to some extent is blasphemy.
    1. mole
      mole 5 May 2020 07: 51 New
      13
      It would be better if 3 billion were allocated for the treatment of children, otherwise we are collecting the whole world. Absurd.
      1. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 5 May 2020 11: 16 New
        0
        This temple also raised money all over the world.
        1. mole
          mole 5 May 2020 14: 01 New
          +2
          I foresaw such a comment. Do not just tell that amount collected. You well understand that this is a way for interested persons to replenish their pockets, realize their ambitions, go down in history, etc.
          Among my acquaintances, no one gathered for this temple, incl. and in other cities. But many of these friends transfer money to operations.
          1. Servisinzhener
            Servisinzhener 5 May 2020 16: 28 New
            +3
            I donated to this temple 2 TR
            1. mole
              mole 5 May 2020 20: 38 New
              -1
              Your right and choice. How many donated for operations?
              1. Servisinzhener
                Servisinzhener 5 May 2020 22: 38 New
                +1
                A few more. How much I find it difficult to say. this was done not by a single sum, but by the coins that were given for change. Putting them in a special box that is in stores.
                Although I have some skepticism regarding operations for sick children abroad.
      2. Antagonist
        Antagonist 5 May 2020 15: 36 New
        +9
        Quote: Mole
        It would be better if 3 billion were allocated for the treatment of children

        For them, religion was more important.
    2. bober1982
      bober1982 5 May 2020 08: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: Amateur
      So the name "the main temple of the RF Armed Forces" is contrary to church canons and to some extent is blasphemy

      The statement is not entirely true, there is no blasphemy, as an example - the Kronstadt Naval Cathedral, founded in 1903 in honor of the 200th anniversary of the Russian Navy.
      1. Amateur
        Amateur 5 May 2020 08: 52 New
        0
        Kronstadt Naval Cathedral, founded in 1903 in honor of the 200th anniversary of the Russian Navy.

        Sorry, but before making any comments, they would have struck in any search engine, as the Kronstad Cathedral is officially called. Otherwise, it didn’t turn out beautifully.
        The Naval Cathedral of St. Nicholas the Wonderworker (Nikolsky Stavropegial Naval Cathedral) is the last and largest of the naval cathedrals built in the Russian Empire. It was built in 1903-1913. in Kronstadt, in the neo-Byzantine style, designed by architect V. A. Kosyakov [2] [3]. (wiki)
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 5 May 2020 08: 57 New
          -2
          What ugly happened? I do not understand.
          The Church of the Ascension of the Lord, for example, as you say - the Ascension Church.
          We speak different languages, therefore, we do not understand each other.
          1. Amateur
            Amateur 5 May 2020 14: 03 New
            +3
            main temple of the Armed forces of Russia

            should be correctly called the "Temple of the new martyr, the servant of the galley Vladimir, St. Sergius of Tyvinsky, the apostles Igor (Rosneft), Alexy (Gazprom), Sergius (Eco-Mannergemsky), Valery (general), Alexander (FSB) and others, as well as the repentant Komsomol member) sinners Valentina
    3. ALARI
      ALARI 5 May 2020 08: 28 New
      0
      And God was asked if he needed another house. In the name of the Lord, in his name. So anything can be justified.
      1. Antagonist
        Antagonist 5 May 2020 15: 35 New
        10
        Quote: ALARI
        ALARI

        Priests definitely need
  9. zxc15682
    zxc15682 5 May 2020 07: 45 New
    -1
    Strange, this is not a temple of God .. This is a temple of the spirit of the people. (This is something new (fight) am
    1. zxc15682
      zxc15682 5 May 2020 07: 49 New
      0
      More precisely the spirit of the army.
  10. Masha
    Masha 5 May 2020 08: 00 New
    0
    The question is, are they already breaking spears?
    the construction of the temple of the Resurrection is drawing to a close.
  11. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 5 May 2020 08: 09 New
    +2
    Yes, we do not have communists, alas. Everything must be started all over again - then, maybe, we will manage by the end of the century ...
  12. nobody111body
    nobody111body 5 May 2020 08: 13 New
    0
    ugh, what ignorance and obscurantism - and this is military pilgrims or this is another imposition of blind faith in a fairy tale for adults - however, we still have monuments to Vladimir Lenin and even put flowers; propaganda has not yet succeeded in disfiguring our youth morally and the forehead has not yet been completely pierced by "praying" Pushkin made good fun of these priests
  13. 3vs
    3vs 5 May 2020 08: 25 New
    +5
    Well, Comrade Putin had the modesty to declare the inappropriateness of the mosaic with his participation.
    Probably, other participants in the mosaic did not agree with this, no one supported the president in this ...

    1. AUL
      AUL 5 May 2020 09: 06 New
      +6
      Interestingly, but Brezhnev’s image will not be there? He even fought. And Khrushchev too. And the Vietnam War in their reign took place. They were modestly silent about them. But in the Crimea, there was no war - all of the free will of the population! And then, Matvienko with Volodin, which side is there?
      The memory of anyone should be perpetuated by descendants, and not by themselves in life!
      1. 3vs
        3vs 5 May 2020 09: 08 New
        +7
        But lizobuds need to lick, but as deep as possible!
        It somehow becomes vile from this, the party girl decided to immortalize herself ...
    2. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO 5 May 2020 09: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: 3vs
      Well, Comrade Putin had the modesty to declare the inappropriateness of the mosaic with his participation.
      Where and when he claimed there was nothing of the kind in the video. request
      1. 3vs
        3vs 5 May 2020 09: 11 New
        0
        Putin said that it was too early to evaluate his work and immediately gave the command to remove this mosaic from the temple.
        But, as was written, it will be preserved.
        The question is, where does she appear?
        Nobody is going to disassemble it, so it will be put out somewhere.
        1. DEDPIHTO
          DEDPIHTO 5 May 2020 09: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: 3vs
          Putin said it was too early to evaluate his work.
          Give a link where you heard or read it.
          1. 3vs
            3vs 5 May 2020 09: 18 New
            0
            Do not follow the news or what?
            Here you are:
            President Vladimir Putin does not consider the appearance of a mosaic with his face in the temple of the Ministry of Defense timely. This was told by the press secretary of the head of state Dmitry Peskov, reports TASS.
            “When he was informed about this, he smiled,” said a Kremlin spokesman and quoted the president’s statement on this subject. “Someday, grateful descendants will appreciate our merits, but now it's too early to do it,” Putin said.
            The fact that mosaics with the image of the President of Russia, as well as the Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu will appear in the main temple of the Armed Forces of Russia, became known on April 24. The rector of the church, Bishop Klinsky Stefan explained that the depiction of historical figures and events has long been a tradition in the construction of ritual structures. This mosaic should reflect the accession of Crimea in 2014, he said.
            The temple should open on May 9, on the day of the 75th anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War. The construction of the church of the Ministry of Defense began at the end of 2018 on the initiative of Shoigu. It should become the third highest Orthodox church in the world.

            A source:
            lenta.ru/news/2020/04/26/mozaika/
            1. DEDPIHTO
              DEDPIHTO 5 May 2020 09: 40 New
              +8
              Thank you, I found hi , at the same time looked at the chronology of events. So, the info about ,, holy faces ”appeared on April 24 (in the VO article on April 25), that is, 2 days of social networks were buzzing with indignation, and on the third day (April 26), he ,, showed modesty ,, wassat Cool. lol
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 5 May 2020 11: 49 New
                +6
                Quote: DEPHIHTO
                he ,, showed humility, cool.

                The magnitude of his modesty is simply amazing! fellow
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  15. Private89
    Private89 5 May 2020 08: 29 New
    16
    The fewer schools, hospitals, factories and factories, the more churches. The logic of the bourgeois class is correct. Why do people need critical thinking? We will instill idealistic views, for example, any power from God, is it true? Believe and endure, how could it be without it? Yes, I forgot about humility, I repent, oh yes and repent, repent.
    Well, if without sarcasm. The church makes the same mistake as before 1917, it relies heavily on power, on power that does not serve the people, in fact becoming a ministry and merges with it in the eyes of the people. There are many decent people in the church, and I believe that those ordinary priests who serve in the churches should not root humility in people, but a thirst for justice, its search and struggle for it, the struggle for the liberation of a simple person.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 5 May 2020 19: 43 New
      +6
      Quote: Private 89
      Private89

      Greetings Private 89! soldier drinks
      Quote: Private 89
      The church makes the same mistake as before 1917, it relies heavily on power, a power that does not serve the people, in fact becoming a ministry

      I will not reveal a big secret if I say that the Russian Orthodox Church even has its own counterintelligence. Well, all sorts of services are there by itself. The vice-premier or vice-president (to whom as someone is handy) is protected directly by the FSO.
      1. Private89
        Private89 5 May 2020 21: 11 New
        +1
        And I welcome you drinks
  16. strelokmira
    strelokmira 5 May 2020 08: 38 New
    +9
    It’s time to build the main madhouse and there all the initiators of this project, and to recover from their accounts 3 billion rubles for rearmament
  17. bober1982
    bober1982 5 May 2020 08: 41 New
    -1
    S. Gavrilov’s statement that the Great Patriotic War resulted in the incarnation of Moscow as the Third Rome does not correspond to reality. This did not and could not be. In order not to bore the details, in short, both Stalin and the Russian Church wanted to make Moscow the center of world Orthodoxy, given that the Russian Church itself, one of the few, had to restrain not only the onslaught of Catholicism on Orthodoxy, but also ecumenical pressure. But, the position of the Greek Orthodox churches, traditionally for them, frustrated these plans.
  18. shubin
    shubin 5 May 2020 08: 43 New
    +6
    Atheists atheists built the Great Country, they won the Great War, and all this trash in robes has nothing to do with the Great Accomplishments of our ancestors.
  19. for
    for 5 May 2020 08: 49 New
    +3
    In his youth, he often visited Moscow, visited museums and churches to see the beauty, but they were more impressed by the Central Museum of the Armed Forces and VDNH.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 5 May 2020 17: 49 New
      +1
      And the pool was not bad ...
  20. lelik613
    lelik613 5 May 2020 08: 53 New
    12
    Disgusting. Having plundered the factories and plants, they hastily bite off and swallow the memory of the grandfather’s feat. Communist Party priests are especially obscene with priests and piety, sudden as diarrhea.
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 5 May 2020 11: 31 New
      +2
      and sudden piety like diarrhea.

      laughing good
    2. Antagonist
      Antagonist 5 May 2020 15: 40 New
      11
      Quote: lelik613
      Disgusting.

      I agree. It's disgusting to look at such a decline in the top of the Communist Party
  21. Klingon
    Klingon 5 May 2020 09: 02 New
    +4
    Religious nonsense of the 21st century. if the higher mind somewhere exists outside our universe, then it sits and extends over small superstitious monkeys from one of the typical carbon worlds of an ordinary star of a normal sequence of spectral class G2
  22. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 5 May 2020 09: 06 New
    +5
    It would be better if a dozen villages were built with this money, and populated by the people.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 5 May 2020 11: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: 7,62x54
      It would be better if a dozen villages were built with this money, and populated by the people.

      Is he ready to go? It’s not enough to build a village, it is necessary to recreate the standard of living corresponding to at least 1980 - a club, post office, kindergarten, school, medical assistant and ..... jobs and wages. Trillions are needed here, not three billion.
      1. 7,62h54
        7,62h54 5 May 2020 12: 52 New
        +1
        "Don't steal," and trillions are not needed. Create infrastructure and conditions, people will reach out on their own. And they will build on their own.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 5 May 2020 22: 43 New
          0
          Quote: 7,62x54
          Create infrastructure and conditions, people themselves will stretch

          Hm. It’s somehow bad for you with the perception of what you read .... But it was written specifically for YOU, but YOU are trying to chop the same thing again with a saber
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          need to recreate the standard of living corresponding at least 1980 - a club, post office, kindergarten, school, paramedic and ..... jobs and wages.
          What's wrong?
  23. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 5 May 2020 09: 09 New
    +5
    in which now the Communists and in God believe in liberalism and in the invisible hand of the market
    1. strelokmira
      strelokmira 5 May 2020 09: 29 New
      +4
      Since the late 80s, all of our rulers had a ticket in their time ...
      Although the Communists, I think they didn’t have their presence, as now
    2. 4ekist
      4ekist 5 May 2020 15: 45 New
      +1
      They especially believe in bank deposits and elite real estate, especially abroad.
  24. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 5 May 2020 09: 16 New
    -1
    A beautiful temple ... when you look at it, the soul rises upward ... the main thing is that it fulfills its purpose, and does not turn into a museum ...
  25. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 5 May 2020 09: 24 New
    -2
    I believe that the result of the war was also the actual incarnation of Moscow as the Third Rome, and the fact that the Cathedral of Autocephalous Churches was held in Moscow.

    Truly obscurantism and ignorance!
    If someone does not know, and Gavrilov clearly does not know the meaning of the phrase "Moscow is the third Rome, there will be no fourth", then it meant the continuity of the world Orthodox center, which passed to Moscow from the second Rome (Constantinople).
    Moscow lost the title of "Third Rome" after the October Revolution (and this is the position of the clergy themselves as a sign that the state did this to the church), when Orthodoxy was strangled and almost destroyed by the very same Stalin, whose bas-relief is so persistently trying to shove on the wall of this church.
    The amazing ability to distort history and meaning is surprising: /
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 5 May 2020 11: 36 New
      +3
      as a sign that the state did this to the church)

      Well, yes, I did it maliciously by removing this office from the state budget with my decree on the separation of the church from the state. And the church is not able to maintain churches without a budget, as it suddenly became clear then. And now it will be the same if the church is transferred to self-financing.
  26. ximkim
    ximkim 5 May 2020 09: 33 New
    -1
    This is not a temple, but an alternative to the EBN center. The man by the fireplace decided to perpetuate himself. shameful ..
  27. ALARI
    ALARI 5 May 2020 09: 38 New
    0
    Interesting steps already installed?
  28. Chief Engineer
    Chief Engineer 5 May 2020 09: 54 New
    -1
    Mdaaa, the Communists are not the same ...
    1. 4ekist
      4ekist 5 May 2020 15: 41 New
      -1
      And when were the communists "those"? When millions of people rotted away in the camps or when the country was taken apart?
  29. Oleg Skvortsov
    Oleg Skvortsov 5 May 2020 09: 55 New
    +3
    In the military church there should be only the faces of the holy Orthodox Warriors, those who defended and defended the Fatherland for centuries. All. There should no longer be any faces there. Here the people are indignant - the Russian Orthodox Church has decomposed. Well, firstly - there is no need to row all under one comb - there are many priests who serve people and the church at the call of the soul. Priests do not fly from space - they grow on our earth. The Orthodox Church does not pull anyone into the temples - if you want to come in, you want to, no. In addition, do not confuse the faith of every person in God and the structure of the Russian Orthodox Church. There will be a church or not, there will be a parish on some stretch of land or not - a believer always feels God in himself. And the fact that the Russian Orthodox Church was turned into a commercial shop - let the merchants in robes and before God and before people answer for it.
  30. alone
    alone 5 May 2020 10: 22 New
    11
    It’s strange .. In Russia thousands of schools, kindergartens, clinics, hospitals were closed .. 10 thousand churches, thousands of mosques appeared .. What is important today, a school or a temple?
    I’m a Muslim .. If they tell me that a school, a hospital or a mosque is more important for you, I will choose a school and a hospital .. I think that most will make the same choice regardless of confession ..
    When someone hurts something, he runs to the doctor, and not to the priest or mullah .. hi
    P.S. As for the Communist MP, yes He is a communist like I am Mufti negative
    1. nobody111body
      nobody111body 5 May 2020 10: 34 New
      0
      and after all, the little article was written in order to outwit the Communists, if at the time of Putin’s departure, the tsrushniks didn’t put any Eltsin2 then there wouldn’t be a repeat of the 90s, which means that the Communists will come to power again and then the Jews will have to start all over again
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 5 May 2020 16: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: nobody
        which means that the Communists will come to power in a new way and then the Jews will have to start all over again

        Oh come on ...
        Our recent history, when the Communist majority prevailed in the Duma during 1995-1999, shows that in those years Russia was much more democratic than today, when the influence of the Communists in the Duma was noticeably diminished.
        © Boris Berezovsky
        I hope that they still remember 1995-1999 for Russian democracy. One thing is worth the seven-bankers. smile
  31. tatra
    tatra 5 May 2020 10: 24 New
    -1
    The enemies of the communists who have seized Russia, not just for the sake of profit in their false and hypocritical anti-Sovietism, praise "Russia We Lost" in October 1917. They proved that the Russian Empire is the image of the State that they impose on Russia and its people, including the richest Church with the impoverished majority of the people, churches and churches stumbling around at every step, church repression for "blasphemy".
  32. Maks1995
    Maks1995 5 May 2020 10: 28 New
    -1
    Well, we know, we know what a traitor, but we can’t make a deputy nifig ....
    1. iouris
      iouris 5 May 2020 14: 07 New
      0
      The entire significance of the Victory is embodied in the results of the Second World War and in those achievements that the victorious people presented to the world. Every inhabitant of the Earth knew the words "Sputnik" and "Gagarin".
  33. Junior Private
    Junior Private 5 May 2020 11: 26 New
    0
    When I ran in a red tie, I remember very well the teachers who brought Lenin's words about "opium for the people" to us, schoolchildren, or how our whole class learned a song with the words "The Red Army is Strongest of All" - our generation remembers it perfectly. The lines come up in memory:
    We inflate the fire of the world
    CHURCHES and prisons are razed to the ground.
    My question is - since I will never give up my pioneering and Komsomol beliefs, am I already an enemy of the people today, or will I be allowed to live another ten years?
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 5 May 2020 11: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Junior Private
      The lines in the memory pop up:
      We inflate the fire of the world
      CHURCHES and prisons are razed to the ground.

      You did not mention another line from this soundtrack, namely:
      Comrade Trotsky
      We will be led to a mortal battle!
      1. lisiy prapor
        lisiy prapor 5 May 2020 16: 16 New
        -1
        Quote: bober1982
        Quote: Junior Private
        The lines in the memory pop up:
        We inflate the fire of the world
        CHURCHES and prisons are razed to the ground.

        You did not mention another line from this soundtrack, namely:
        Comrade Trotsky
        We will be led to a mortal battle!

        And what, personally to you, did Leiba Bronstein displease? Before, I also did not trust him, but in 1991 exactly what happened was what he had warned about half a century before. Those. senior managers illegally misappropriated and monetized the public domain.
  34. Junior Private
    Junior Private 5 May 2020 11: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: blackice
    Now let's see and compare what Lukashenko built in the center of Minsk

    Atheist !!!! laughing

    Cross on it netuti! I suspect that he has never been to Holy Communion.
  35. TAMBU
    TAMBU 5 May 2020 12: 12 New
    -1
    Orthodox Communist ... typical Communist Party ... pah ...
    1. iouris
      iouris 5 May 2020 14: 33 New
      -1
      Quote: TAMBU
      Orthodox communist

      It's impossible.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 5 May 2020 16: 36 New
        0
        Quote: iouris
        It's impossible.

        This is the reality given to us in sensations. smile
        1. iouris
          iouris 5 May 2020 16: 44 New
          +1
          Where is the communist here? The CPRF program does not contain a mandatory clause on the dictatorship of the proletariat. Communist Party only called communist.
  36. Junior Private
    Junior Private 5 May 2020 12: 45 New
    -1
    About Comrade Trotsky, there is no mention in the song. You confuse something.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 5 May 2020 14: 12 New
      -2
      Quote: Junior Private
      About Comrade Trotsky, there is no mention in the song. You confuse something.

      So it was in the early version of the refrain of Samuel Pokras.
      The party’s line fluctuated with respect to Trotsky, and the refrain also hesitated.
      1. Junior Private
        Junior Private 5 May 2020 15: 01 New
        0
        Wikipedia does not confirm the authenticity of both the mention in the text of Trotsky and the authorship of the song. But it's not that. I mentioned my pioneer memories when Trotsky did not remember in a positive way in folk art.
  37. ccsr
    ccsr 5 May 2020 13: 27 New
    +1
    Sergey Gavrilov, head of the Duma committee on the development of civil society, on issues of public and religious associations, expressed his opinion on this matter. He believes that the significance of the victory of our people is embodied in the main temple of the Armed Forces of Russia.

    What unique ones we have in power do not exist - it’s just amazing to be given their poor mind. Maybe it’s better to build the main church of the Central Committee of the CPSU, because then the Communist Party (Bolsheviks) led the country and it was its members who led the people in the annihilation of fascism in the world, and the faithful Leninist Comrade Stalin was at the head of the country.
    We have a wonderful museum of the Great Patriotic War on Poklonnaya Gora, where there are chapels of various faiths, and all of our figures are few, apparently there is nowhere to donate money, or they want to enroll themselves in saints. All this is sad, all the more so since my relatives who died and fought were unbelievers, and they fought not for God, but for their Fatherland and the future of their descendants. They did not know that the descendants would turn out to be fools, and again they would strike religion, since the USSR could not achieve economic indicators.
  38. iouris
    iouris 5 May 2020 13: 41 New
    -1
    Under what banner did "our people" win?
  39. Blue fox
    Blue fox 5 May 2020 13: 42 New
    0
    I want to express my personal opinion, as they say, I have the right. I am a search engine and I believe that it is necessary to perpetuate the memory of our ancestors who laid their heads for us. This is normal practice, no matter how skeptics say it. The Greeks still praise their heroes of the war with the Persians and run a marathon in memory of this around the world, and when was this an event ?? But in terms of perpetuating, I personally am more impressed with the practice of the Soviet era, when my memory was perpetuated with monuments! Because, if you follow the logic, next to the Orthodox chapel it’s right to build a mosque, a synagogue, a pagoda and a Catholic church next to it (I apologize if I didn’t list and wrote everything, I’m far from “God's” officials).
  40. Breard
    Breard 5 May 2020 14: 39 New
    +1
    "Belief in God is undoubtedly of great importance and this is normal, ONLY in the case when they do not want to think, they do not know how, or it just hurts to think ..."
    Hmm ... churches are "houses of priests" in place of schools and universities. Development.

    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 5 May 2020 16: 39 New
      -1
      I immediately remembered Smolny Cathedral during the restoration.
      1. Breard
        Breard 12 May 2020 02: 42 New
        0
        Well yes. Now in russia, mainly "priests' houses" are being built - churches. Education, culture, science - boh forbid ... this country is not needed.
  41. pereselenec
    pereselenec 5 May 2020 14: 40 New
    -1
    State Duma deputy from the Communist Party: The main significance of the victory of our people is embodied in the main temple of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation


    As I understand it, the Communists have become the main specialists in the temples?
    1. iouris
      iouris 5 May 2020 16: 55 New
      +2
      Zyuganov and his party do not and cannot have a scientific ideology, and therefore he confuses the gift of God with scrambled eggs. It is one thing not to interfere in church life and freedom of conscience; it is quite another thing to discard from the Party program the points of principle that distinguish the Communist Party from any other. They perform a "useful" function in the system of power, which was built after the counter-revolution, therefore they have their share.
  42. Doliva63
    Doliva63 5 May 2020 20: 21 New
    +2
    "Communists" of the post-Soviet era are corrupting the idea of ​​communism. Maybe join the Communist Party to restore order? laughing
  43. Nitarius
    Nitarius 6 May 2020 06: 31 New
    -1
    A temple is needed ... but only couch generals are pushing against it!
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 6 May 2020 07: 23 New
      0
      Religion is opium for the people, as the classics of not only Marxism-Leninism absolutely correctly said.
      Religion is a business trough selling mystical services to the people to enrich the church oligarchy according to the network principle, it is a return to the wild Middle Ages and religious wars among the faithful peoples. Elementary parasitic feudalism.
      1. Nitarius
        Nitarius 6 May 2020 07: 33 New
        +1
        ))) do not believe in God)? interesting .. if there is no god! what happens to a person. when does he die ..? seems to be lying in front of you .. but only it is no longer from him! so when a person dies ... what does he lose? enlighten?
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 6 May 2020 07: 44 New
          0
          Of course not!
          You simply do not notice after yourself that you, as a believer, are an elementary victim of cunning manipulators - theologians!
          If you knew about philosophy and philosophical methods, then you yourself would have understood how, with the help of religion, it is easy for the authorities, in alliance with the church oligarchy, to manipulate the dark-educated population and enrich themselves unscrupulously without limit.
          Clergy have always suffered from hedonism - the pursuit of luxury and profit. For themselves, God does not exist.
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        2. Tatyana
          Tatyana 6 May 2020 08: 34 New
          0
          Quote: Nitarius
          interesting .. if there is no god! what happens to a person. when does he die ..? seems to be lying in front of you .. but only it is no longer from him! so when a person dies ... what does he lose? enlighten?

          Moment of death • Aug 26 2016 year