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Sweden, Belarus, Vietnam: how else can you fight COVID-19

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Sweden, Belarus, Vietnam: how else can you fight COVID-19
The large-scale deployment of field hospitals was tested in the exercises of the Swedish army in 2018. In particular, this is a photo of 2018 taken in Gothenburg. Similarly, these are now unfolding at every major infectious diseases hospital. Photo: www.gp.se


Subtle calculation with an unpredictable ending


The near future will decide which of the strategies to counter the coronavirus was the most effective, but now there are several countries that differ in a special approach in this matter.

In Europe, the inhabitants of Sweden are in an unusual situation, for which most quarantine measures are advisory in nature. In this northern country, schools with kindergartens were not even closed. Only high school students with students in the kingdom were transferred to distance learning. In the hope of Swedes' discipline, the government, together with the chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, recommended maintaining social distance and, if possible, switching to remote work. Cafes, restaurants, shopping centers, parks with squares are now filled with people, and without masks. It is strange to demand from the population not to go out, despite the fact that everything is open everywhere. Initially, only mass events gathering more than 500 people indoors were banned in Sweden. Now this number has been reduced to 50. There is one caveat: all measures have been developed by the Swedish Public Health Agency (Folkhälsomyndigheten), the cabinet cannot make any adjustments to their work. This is the specificity of the legislation of the kingdom: medical leaders here are independent of the state.


Anders Tegnell, chief epidemiologist in Sweden. Source: dw.com

Maintaining democratic principles at all costs creates “tolerant” conditions for the virus in Sweden. For example, if an infected COVID-19 is detected in a family, two-week quarantine is not mandatory for the rest. The government only asks not to attend work in this case. All anti-epidemiological measures taken by the Swedish medical authorities are based on the experience of eliminating outbreaks of SARS and Middle Eastern respiratory syndrome (MERS). And at the moment, according to Anders Tagnell, everything is going according to plan. The SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus infection rate (R index) is below unity, that is, one patient infects no more than one person. Now this index is approximately 0,85, which is a sign of a recession in the country. For comparison: in early April, R in Sweden was 1,3.

An unusual situation has developed with medical support in the army of the kingdom. When two field hospitals were deployed in Gothenburg and Stockholm, it turned out that the military had nothing left. Hospitals were previously handed out by compassionate Swedes to peacekeeping missions around the world and to the poor Baltic countries “suffering” from the Russian threat. That is, in the event of a serious jump in the number of infected, the army will not be able to help much.

Questions are also being raised by public support in the fight against COVID-19. Despite the fact that the government approves such soft measures, in fact it supports only 52% of the population. That is, in fact, society was divided into the issue of evaluating actions.

Naturally, in a situation where the world around is in complete isolation, and in Sweden is a kind of paradise, voices appear calling to follow the world experience. First of all, Anders Tegnell is accused of high mortality among the older generation, especially in nursing homes. Moreover, scientists are talking about the coming wave of mortality on such a scale that the average life expectancy in the kingdom will decrease by a couple of years. Naturally, this will happen due to the mass death of residents older than 65 years. Doctors point to the actual absence of specific treatment for sick elderly people. Those infected are left in nursing homes on the conscience of local doctors. In early May, Anders Tagnell officially acknowledged the insufficient attention given to the elderly by the health agency. It was this category that should first be isolated from contacts. However, the official pointed to the mortality rate in April 2020 compared to the same period last year - the figures were very close.

Opponents from among the country's scientists point to the experience of Iceland, Norway, Finland and Denmark, where they imposed strict quarantine from the beginning of March, closed schools, kindergartens and all public places. Norwegians even banned from leaving cities for summer cottages, hoping for a slowdown in the spread of infection to the periphery. Tegnell replies that soft Swedish measures are caused primarily by concern for the physical and mental health of citizens. If similar tough measures are introduced in the kingdom, then soon we won’t be able to deal with the epidemic, and we’ll get a pack of concomitant diseases. The main hope of the Swedish government is now for the rapid formation of collective immunity among the population and the subsequent decline in the number of infected. In the meantime, in early May in Sweden, nearly 23 thousand infected with COVID-19, of which only 1 thousand recovered, and more than 2,7 thousand died. It is worth remembering that in the kingdom, not everyone can be tested for COVID- 19 - the procedure is shown only to people with obvious symptoms, as well as in contact with infected coronavirus. Nevertheless, the growth rate of recent days says that a plateau phase has begun in the country.

Can this be explained by the high performance of the Tegnell team? Most likely, it is relative measures of quarantine that explain the very high mortality rate - about 12%. At the same time, the neighbors of the kingdom in early May demonstrate qualitatively different indicators: Denmark - less than 10 thousand infected, more than 7 thousand recovered and 493 deaths; Norway - 7884, 32 and 214, respectively; Finland - 5327, 3500 and 240, respectively. It seems that in the search for a golden mean of maintaining health and the economy in the kingdom, they have chosen the wrong path. However, the Swedes are not alone in their liberal know-how.

Belarus vs Vietnam


At first glance, the measures taken by Belarus are very similar to the approach of Sweden. There are also educational institutions, cafes, restaurants, cinemas and other public places. The football championship was never stopped - this, by the way, is an unprecedented step on a European scale. Lukashenko has not yet canceled the Victory Parade on May 9, and at the end of April held a nationwide subbotnik, dedicated to the 75th anniversary of the Victory. In fact, the authorities only limited themselves to a two-week quarantine for all visitors from abroad. Did Belarusians consult with Anders Tegnell?


Belarus seems to be becoming a large platform for epidemiological experiments. Source: profil.ru

The main difference between our neighbor’s antivirus strategy and the Swedes’s actions is in fact denying the very fact of COVID-19's lethality. According to the leader of the country, the whole история with coronavirus is far-fetched and does not pose a particular threat to the health of the nation. Lukashenko’s main motive is concern for the economy of Belarus. Firstly, the shutdown of industrial enterprises will soon cause a financial collapse, since Belarusians do not have any airbags and never have. And secondly, it is obvious that the Belarusian leader wants to get out of this global crisis with the least losses, and perhaps with economic dividends. The countries around will be engaged in resuscitation of their own economy, and a healthy and efficient industry in Belarus can help. There are new markets and partial elimination of competitors.

Bottom line: at the beginning of May, almost 17,5 thousand people were infected in Belarus, of which a little more than a hundred died, and more than 3 thousand recovered. Is this statistic an indicator of the effectiveness of Lukashenka’s “special path” with respect to the coronavirus he does not see? Or are the nuances of counting guilty here? In any case, a large part of the population does not particularly trust simple recipes such as “50 gr. vodka and a bath ”and switch to independent isolation. Naturally, such spontaneous measures will not bring anything particularly useful.

In quarantine, Belarusians should learn from Vietnamese epidemiologists.


To begin with, there are still no coronavirus deaths in Vietnam! This despite the fact that the "zero patient" in the country was discovered on January 23, a few days after the medical service was fully prepared. In general, the hallmark of the work of the Vietnamese government was lightning speed. Quickly declared quarantine, quickly closed all schools and public catering facilities, quickly blocked the city of Vinfun with the infected. The police worked quickly when they found out the contacts of those infected throughout the country. And all - right away in strict isolation, almost under armed guard. But at the same time, not the richest country allowed itself to purchase expensive medical equipment in South Korea and provide virtually free food for all quarantined people. They worked hard with people who denied the scale of the global pandemic: several officials were even arrested. Experts argue that such efficiency is a result of proximity to China, which is regularly febrile with various epidemics. So neighbors have to be constantly on the alert. As a result, in Vietnam, 271 people have been ill with coronavirus all of the time, of whom 219 have already recovered; there are no deaths, as mentioned above. Now the country is slowly quitting quarantine (masks are still mandatory, groups of more than 20 people are prohibited), but they are in no hurry to resume full contacts with the outside world.

The spectacular strategy of Vietnam, unfortunately, is nowhere to be applied. COVID-19 has for the most part already spread across countries. Total isolation does not solve anything. One hope is for collective immunity according to the Swedish-Belarusian recipe. And when all the countries around Vietnam get similar, what will happen to its inhabitants?
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 5 May 2020 05: 38 New
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    Naturally, this will happen due to the mass death of residents older than 65 years. Doctors point to the actual absence of specific treatment for sick elderly people. Those infected are left in nursing homes on the conscience of local doctors.
    Swedish sweeping?
    In general, the hallmark of the work of the Vietnamese government was lightning speed. The police worked quickly when they found out the contacts of infected people throughout the country. And all - right away in strict isolation, almost under armed guard
    good And so could it be? But what about rights and freedoms? request
    They worked hard with people who denied the scale of the global pandemic: several officials were even arrested.
    Oh how! We would be so. request
    1. depressant
      depressant 5 May 2020 08: 03 New
      -2
      So, by the way ...
      I still could not get past the last “Besogon” Mikhalkov - looked. Because of the great hype. She looked and was horrified: there at the end there were such re-maths that even me, accustomed to a lot, was plunged into shock. How can this be broadcast?
      You may ask how the transmission of the hereditary courtroom relates to the topic stated by the Author. And I will answer you: yes direct! Remember its beginning. Slowly, thoughtfully, with confidential intonations turning into insinuating, with lulling critical evaluations of pauses, forcing as much attention as possible in anticipation of continuation, Mihalkov almost speaks with hypnotizing passes about the actions of the authorities at the beginning of the epidemic. And it was said, after all, a little and as if casually, but just as much and exactly so that these very powerful actions are entrenched in the listener's subconscious in the form of a comfortable idea that everything was done right by the authorities. And in order to prevent the subconscious mind from regaining consciousness for a second, critically digest information, move away from hypnosis, develop the right opinion and fix it on the basis of real, rather than suggestible facts as primary, Mikhalkov immediately brings down on the listener what we already know about which, more than once or twice here, at VO, were indignant: the statements of Chubais and Gref that we should be reduced to 30 million, and about Sberbank, in which we won’t own much after the purchase by the state, and that the scoundrel Gref, it turns out, is also an ideologist Getting a decent education for everyone ... A lot of things that cause anger, with speech techniques that shock, sharply bringing the subconscious to the zone of discomfort. And in the end - a thin, asking voice of a child, involuntarily referring the listener to the beginning of the program. Comparison of the contents of the formed comfort zone (there is dear power that was just a little confused on the occasion of the coronavirus - but this is not a crime, right? After all, everyone was confused! But power is on the side of this very child!) And a huge zone of discomfort (there Chubais, Gref, other villains) forces the person’s subconscious mind to opt for power despite its misbehavior in the situation with the coronavirus. Because this is the property of the human psyche - contrary to the arguments of the mind, always strive for comfort. It was for the sake of this that a program was created - it was for the sake of transferring arrows from one to another. For the wave of information about the true state of affairs with the coronavirus and especially about the organization of the fight against it is formidable. The blogosphere is boiling ...
      1. 3vs
        3vs 5 May 2020 08: 40 New
        +5
        Quote: depressant
        She looked and was horrified: there at the end there were such re-maths that even me, accustomed to a lot, was plunged into shock. How can this be broadcast?

        And this was done by Mikhalkov intentionally, so that viewers feel the "charms" of the remote
        schooling! Parents who hang themselves from such training do not already find
        censorship words ...

        And for such training, Ms. Matvienko drowns ...

        Here Mikhalkov also asks a question, for the rich, it turns out, full-time study, with live teachers,
        and for the "cattle" and the remote will do!
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 5 May 2020 09: 32 New
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          Quote: 3vs
          Parents who hang themselves from such training do not already find
          censorship words ...

          no, these so-called "parents", other words, just do not know. Such, alas, are few, but they are always there.
          Let it go on the air — savagery — whatever goals are pursued.

          as for Sweden and Belarus, let's not forget that they do not live in airless space, but are surrounded neighborsThat perform quarantine measures and, accordingly, Belarusians / Swedes enjoy those positive outcomes that are achieved by neighbors
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 7 May 2020 14: 41 New
        +1
        Nikita is a famous slogan of power, any, but supreme. Ready to nibble anyone, but not a guarantor. But one gang above.
        But all the same, even though he will convey information to the people, that he still will not detach himself from the zombies.
    2. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 5 May 2020 09: 13 New
      +6
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      And so could it be? But what about rights and freedoms?

      But normal with rights. At least the right to life was left, providing food. And not like ours, forbidding to work in Vietnamese, and freedom-lovingly suggesting weed to eat.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 5 May 2020 10: 53 New
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        Surprisingly, all countries, even those who declare socialism, are doing very well in the carpet. And vice versa - like a rampant democracy and tolerance, so everything, extinguish the light, people are dying in batches. Is the virus so afraid of the Communist Party? laughing
      2. 210ox
        210ox 5 May 2020 14: 50 New
        +3
        Just a country with adequate leadership. Not inhibited and not rushing to extremes.
        1. Shedko
          Shedko 5 May 2020 20: 57 New
          +1
          Like Belarus, ned confidence statistics. Most of us have simply not established pneumonia, not covid, therefore the statistics are “beautiful”
    3. Revival
      Revival 5 May 2020 16: 48 New
      -1
      "And everyone - immediately in strict isolation, almost under armed guard
      good And so could it be? But what about rights and freedoms?
      Oh how! We would be so. "

      Sure! In countries where people are especially nobody.
      It is advisable for you alone to do so longer and you would be happy!
    4. astepanov
      astepanov 6 May 2020 15: 17 New
      +3
      I would like to note some more features of Vietnam that influenced the success of the fight against the epidemic. I was there a few years ago. It immediately struck me: without any epidemic, at least half of the inhabitants were masked! Masks were used there to protect the face from the sun, a bright face was a "status" sign indicating that its holder (face) does not plow on a rice check and is not hunched at a construction site. It is clear that in the country masks are a hot commodity, and when EVERYTHING is masked, the risk of infection is reduced tenfold. So getting everyone to wear masks was not at all difficult.
      The second circumstance is the tropical location and rapid death of the virus under the influence of ultraviolet radiation. Do not neglect the fact that most Vietnamese are Buddhists, and Buddhism does not welcome mutual touches, especially to the head and face.
      Finally, Vietnam, contrary to popular belief, is a fairly clean country - this is not India, overgrown with mud. And medicine in Vietnam is at its best: average life expectancy is 71,2 years, almost the same as in Russia - and this despite the fact that the terrible consequences of the war of 1955-1975 still influence the indicator.
      But for some reason we have a lot of noise, but for two months they did not manage to provide the population with the simplest effective means - masks. It seems that the authorities deliberately chose the most expensive and ineffective way to deal with the epidemic, and some masked just warm their hands. Prices go up to a hundred times against those that were before the start of the epidemic! Now they’ll introduce the mask mode everywhere - and the last pennies will be pulled out. Here the advantages of the "authoritarian" regimes of China and Vietnam are obvious: it is ordered to put on masks and wear them - and everyone, as cute ones, produce masks and wear them.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 7 May 2020 14: 50 New
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        It seems that the authorities deliberately chose the most expensive and ineffective way to deal with the epidemic, and some masked just warm their hands.

        I have an answer ready to grab and shameless power - bought 4 pcs reusable? and there was a few respiratory types at home.
        So - wash, ozonize and quartz. All alone will not save you from infection, but gives a small chance. And the main thing for which I put on clothes at the entrance to the store or pharmacy is that the staff and other people are not afraid that I sneeze viruses on them.
      2. fruit_cake
        fruit_cake 7 May 2020 21: 36 New
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        the authorities didn’t choose anything at all, they were mongrels at the beck and call, big business chose everything for them, which until recently sent tourists to and fro
  2. Grandfather
    Grandfather 5 May 2020 05: 39 New
    +6
    "cove" is a global scam of the 21st century, beneficial to many governments.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 5 May 2020 05: 45 New
      +4
      As a result, in Vietnam, 271 people have been ill with coronavirus for all the time, of whom 219 have already recovered; there are no deaths, as mentioned above. Now in the country slowly quarantine
      Well done! good They worked perfectly, unlike our freedom-loving and .... angry
      Quote: Dead Day
      "cove" is a global scam of the 21st century, beneficial to many governments.
      How to say ... Big is seen in the distance.
    2. Far B
      Far B 5 May 2020 06: 35 New
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      The author actually gives strange statistics - in general terms. Absolutely does not take into account that in Sweden there are almost twice as many inhabitants than in the same Norway, Denmark or Finland. Naturally, the number of infected will also be higher. Again, coronavirus test coverage is not considered. So yes, now such juggling with numbers is akin to a scam. Some conclusions, if possible, can be drawn much later.
      1. Mimoprohodil
        Mimoprohodil 6 May 2020 21: 20 New
        -1
        Quote: Far In
        Absolutely does not take into account that in Sweden there are almost twice as many inhabitants than in the same Norway, Denmark or Finland.
        In Sweden, 291 deaths per million inhabitants, and in Norway 40. You wrote to yourself
        Quote: Far In
        Now such juggling with numbers is akin to a scam
    3. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 5 May 2020 06: 36 New
      +4
      And how is this "scam" profitable?
      1. depressant
        depressant 5 May 2020 09: 01 New
        +7
        Yes, now, I also wondered: what is the advantage of a "scam" in the coronavirus of power? Say ours.
        Firstly, the people have accumulated enormous irritation over the pension reform, as well as on the occasion of the entry into force on January 1 of this year of a whole bunch of laws that discriminate against an ordinary citizen. Step left, step right - get your wallet. Even individual laws in favor of citizens require such a volume of documentary justification that can only be provided occasionally, which means incentive laws do not actually work. And this deafening discontent could result in a much more representative demonstration of the working people on May 1 with the slogans "Resign!" And then on May 9 - Victory Day, the triumph of our ancestors, capable of strengthening the spirit of the people. And it is not known how irritated by "zeroing" the people will behave. Will real hard workers join the front liberal rally by turning liberals into fellow travelers and, in fact, driving them out of the political arena.
        Secondly, digitalization as the already announced intention of those who are replacing the old industrial "elite". Take each citizen on a digital pencil, then put a digital circuit on him, so that in the future even thoughts can be read (by the way, they are working on this). Such is the era going on. And the danger of coronavirus, which deprives a person of mobility of a wide spectrum, is most convenient for starting the era of serf slavery with the help of numbers.
        1. Fevralsk. Morev
          Fevralsk. Morev 8 May 2020 18: 29 New
          -3
          Against the backdrop of recent foreign economic "successes", all this fuss with quarantine is more like working out the hidden introduction of the State of Emergency, as in a separate region or federal district. Or maybe it's simple. Judging by Putin's speeches ... some kind of bewildered one, in a slight panic. Maybe Happy New Year, another country will congratulate.
  3. Angrybeard
    Angrybeard 5 May 2020 06: 06 New
    +6
    In Belarus, you simply will not be diagnosed until you rattle barely breathing, because everyone understands everything. But yes, mortality from muck is not so terrible. It is possible without quarantine, at least Sweden and Belarus are an example.
    1. Zeev Zeev
      Zeev Zeev 5 May 2020 06: 35 New
      +4
      Mortality without quarantine is 12.6%. in Sweden where they keep their distance. And in Belarus, no one died at all (according to Lukashenko), because the coronovirus, crossing the border of the Republic of Belarus, turns into an acute respiratory viral infection.
      1. odometer
        odometer 5 May 2020 08: 30 New
        +2
        In some friendly Central Asian states, exactly the opposite. SARS crossing the border or not crossing, turns into a coronovirus. All according to plan smile
        1. depressant
          depressant 5 May 2020 09: 29 New
          10
          And this, colleague Curvimeter, is amazing.
          Just the indicators that could be found. Maybe someone will add.

          Mortality from pneumonia, Russia, by years.
          2013 - 30 thousand people.
          2014 - 40 thousand.
          ....
          2017 is about 30 thousand.
          2018 - 24 954 people, and together with diseases of the upper respiratory tract - 59 803.
          In the first 9 months of 2019, 18 thousand people died from pneumonia in Russia.
          This is data from Rospotressoyuz and Rosstat.
          How many died of pneumonia in the remaining three months of 2019, the Ministry of Health, I emphasize, does not know.
          I hardly found previous information on the Internet. And this is not flu, it is separate, it is pneumonia, statistics on adults. And it’s much worse than coronavirus statistics. It turns out people were not treated? Not treated enough. One that matches the disease.
          You know, all my life before the coup d'etat in the 90s, I never heard that an adult died from pneumonia. From tuberculosis - yes. My father almost died of tuberculosis and was treated to the end. But what about pneumonia? Then the question is: what are we breathing for, what are they selling to us as food, and what medicines are they charged for consumption?
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 5 May 2020 10: 49 New
            -1
            Why, you, with the scoop did not die at all, people lived forever. 4-7% mortality from pneumonia. As it was, and now it is. Before antibiotics - more than 50%
      2. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 11 May 2020 07: 15 New
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        where does the data about 12,6% come from? Of the countries where the epidemic has passed - China has the largest mortality rate - 5,6% .. and, for example, on February 8 at the height of the epidemic - mortality rates reached 50% according to statistics ..

        "- The National Health Commission of China reports an even greater number of infected and deceased patients. According to the latest information, 34 people are infected in the world, 722 deaths. Another 1 patients recovered from the virus. "
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 11 May 2020 07: 31 New
          0
          The highest mortality rate was in China two months ago. At the moment, Belgium holds the lead, with a mortality rate of over 13%
          1. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 11 May 2020 07: 33 New
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            And where does Belgium go? has it already ended and can we take stock? that's why I brought China, where on February 8 there was a mortality of almost 50 percent .. and after the end of 5% ..
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 11 May 2020 08: 39 New
              0
              There have never been 50 percent in China. Even in the most difficult days in Wuhan, it barely reached 15%
              1. 2 Level Advisor
                2 Level Advisor 11 May 2020 19: 36 New
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                I’ve given a couple of posts above - I quoted a quote .. you can see the news of the Chinese crown for February
  4. svp67
    svp67 5 May 2020 06: 32 New
    +4
    Sweden, Belarus, Vietnam: how else can you fight COVID-19
    In Finnish - a song, a Soviet song ...
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 5 May 2020 06: 32 New
    +1
    "I tried on" the above measures ... All the same, I, most likely, "European)))
  6. martin-159
    martin-159 5 May 2020 07: 17 New
    +8
    And when all the countries around Vietnam get similar, what will happen to its inhabitants?
    The vaccine will be made by then.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 5 May 2020 11: 12 New
      +1
      The vaccine is not a panacea.
      Dr. Myasnikov cited the following data:
      Measles (there is a vaccine) - 140 thousand deaths per year. Pneumococcus (there is a vaccine) - 2-2,5 million deaths per year. Hepatitis B (there is a vaccine) - 650 thousand deaths per year. Tetanus (there is a vaccine) - 89 thousand deaths per year. Rotavirus (there is a vaccine) - 800 thousand deaths per year. Cervical cancer (there is a vaccine) - 250 thousand deaths per year. Tuberculosis (there is a vaccine) - 1,5 million deaths per year. Influenza (there is a vaccine) - (from) 650 thousand (up to) 1 million deaths per year "
      1. Arthur 85
        Arthur 85 5 May 2020 20: 46 New
        +1
        Is there a vaccine for rotavirus?
      2. ZaharoFF
        ZaharoFF 6 May 2020 08: 11 New
        +1
        Butchers - quack, working with a talking head in a medical cap.
  7. Ros 56
    Ros 56 5 May 2020 07: 22 New
    +3
    Found an example, Sweden. There, mortality for 10% surpasses, in Russia we have about one percent, is there a difference?
  8. nikvic46
    nikvic46 5 May 2020 07: 57 New
    +1
    Some kind of mouse fuss about a pandemic. Much depends not on the power of healthcare, but on efficiency. Pharmaceutical companies profit from people's health. And no one wants to say that self-medication kills immunity. Try to buy medicine in Sweden, Finland. Only as directed by a doctor. Any , and not on benefits. I’m funny when they say that the police can cure people. You have to remember. Now they’re not treating COVID anywhere. People are helped to survive. There are a lot of drugs and symptoms, as well as tests of private companies, but the effect is not enough. Sweden is half listening to WHO recommendations. We will have to go our own way. Whether we want it or not.
    1. depressant
      depressant 5 May 2020 09: 52 New
      +1
      I agree, colleague nikvik 46. It is the effectiveness of treatment that is significant.
      When pneumonia began to occur against the background of coronavirus, it began to be adequately treated. And here is the result: in March this year, mortality from pneumonia decreased, but the extinction of the central regions of Russia continued at an accelerated pace due to a drop in the birth rate. Very interesting data leads on Zen blogger Soviet patriot. The article is entitled "I am studying Rosstat data for March for the subject of COVID-19 pneumonia."
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 May 2020 09: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: nikvic46
      Try to buy medicine in Sweden, Finland. Only as directed by a doctor.

      And not only in Scandinavia, but throughout Europe, aspirin and parecetamol, dietary supplements and vitamins, even alcohol for injections are not sold over the counter in free sale, you have to use 80% vodka.
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 5 May 2020 10: 58 New
        0
        Right, on the one hand. Uncontrolled use of antibiotics leads to the appearance of superbugs.
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 5 May 2020 13: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: nikvic46
      We will have to go our own way. Whether we want it or not.

      need to reinvent immunoglobulins laughing
  9. Misterfin
    Misterfin 5 May 2020 08: 07 New
    +8
    We do not have quarantine in Belarus and this is correct. It is necessary to isolate the virus, not people. Separate patients from healthy ones and treat them in infectious departments, which is being done successfully. The statistics of infections and lethal rays are commensurate with neighbors, which once again proves the uselessness of quarantine and its harm to the country's economy and the health of citizens. The May 9 parade will certainly take place, because Belarus is the only one of all the republics that preserves its historical memory in full. Of course, the Russian army will not take part in our parade. It would be strange for the Commander-in-Chief, hiding from a cold in a bunker, to observe how military men celebrate Victory Day in a foreign country. Let him sit on.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 5 May 2020 10: 23 New
      +2
      Alexander Grigoryevich himself did not write, oh super agitation!
      1. Revival
        Revival 5 May 2020 16: 57 New
        -1
        "to the commander in chief, hiding from the common cold in the bunker."
        What do you think, a lie?
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 5 May 2020 10: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Misterfin
      We do not have quarantine in Belarus and this is correct.

      God grant that you are right
      Quote: Misterfin
      The statistics of infections and lethal rays are commensurate with neighbors,

      Neighbor, Poland.
      The population is 3 times larger.
      The population density is almost 3 times higher.
      Information about coronavirus is completely open.
      And compare with the information corrected as directed, and then you can write about "commensurability".
  10. Chingachguk
    Chingachguk 5 May 2020 09: 09 New
    +3
    So I don’t know if this virus exists or not, but I’m more than sure that the Putin government knows what it’s doing. Maybe this virus was generally conceived for something else. Judging by the past years of Putin’s rule, he thinks things through several steps ahead and it really works. I do not think that such financial losses of Russia are mischief, or the wrong actions of the leadership. Before minus me, justify where, when Putin acted catastrophically wrongly and not far-sighted, which affected the Russian Federation.
    1. Revival
      Revival 5 May 2020 16: 58 New
      +1
      1. "People help budgets crack" = 0, but you can cocacola!
      1. Chingachguk
        Chingachguk 5 May 2020 18: 04 New
        +1
        winked I didn’t understand anything ...... But it’s very interesting! wassat
      2. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 5 May 2020 20: 58 New
        -1
        How many of our citizens work at Coca-Cola? Not one tens of thousands. This is the help.
  11. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 5 May 2020 09: 45 New
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    Why is there not a word in the article about the use of blood plasma from patients ??? the most effective cure for the virus!
  12. ZaharoFF
    ZaharoFF 5 May 2020 09: 49 New
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    Belarus seems to be becoming a large platform for epidemiological experiments

    Already become a platform. If everything continues this way further, there will be a big tragedy (which I would not like very much).
    And when all the countries around Vietnam get similar, what will happen to its inhabitants?

    Everything will be fine with its inhabitants. It is necessary to take care of its inhabitants, and not to pretend.
    1. Shedko
      Shedko 5 May 2020 21: 15 New
      +1
      The EU is slowly opening internal borders, including for the Baltic states, but not for Belarus. Apparently there is logic in their actions.
  13. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 5 May 2020 09: 51 New
    +5
    In any case, a large part of the population does not particularly trust simple recipes such as “50 gr. vodka and a bath ”and switch to independent isolation.
    And I personally do not trust such a statement, where did you see that in Russia and Belarus they would drink after the bath "50 grams of vodka" for teens it will do, but for men
    "Half a liter on the nose"
    .
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 5 May 2020 10: 56 New
      +7
      50 grams of vodka is homeopathy. That is pseudoscience.
      1. Arthur 85
        Arthur 85 5 May 2020 20: 57 New
        +2
        Well, yes, it’s true, smell it ... Willpower should be: I didn’t want to drink, but I drank it!
    2. awdrgy
      awdrgy 10 May 2020 13: 41 New
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      I dare to correct the formula (x = n-1) where n is the number of drinkers and x-liters True, then you still have to send the youngest to the store, but this only adds drive))
  14. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 5 May 2020 10: 34 New
    +6
    What are these reproaches of the Shveds and the Belarusians for? Half of the country works for us and moves through passes. How is it in the metro in Moscow? The distance is respected? In another transport? Some kind of incomprehensible quarantine. But lonely in the park or fishing you need to be fined. They are the main ones peddlers.
    1. Sklendarka
      Sklendarka 5 May 2020 17: 24 New
      +1
      And about fishing, I’m sitting and preparing tackles, the telly is drumming, and suddenly I hear reinforced police patrols in Moscow check permits .... My heart was gone, it remains to say that they are checking out ausweis and it remains to be sent to the draft board for shooting, to help out my brothers.
  15. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 5 May 2020 10: 40 New
    +3
    Europe is already opening - schools, catering establishments, hotels, and so on. From tomorrow, almost everything is opened in our country. At this moment, 1698 were infected, approx. 50. But virologists suggest that up to half a million without symptoms went through the flu, based on statistics from population tests.

    One way or another, we can’t sit at home forever. But the government and its buddies steal here just fine. Communized a cloud of money. And we sat in the basements and rejoiced in quarantine. A flock of sheep ....

    P..S. I don’t know how with the virus, but they should gradually remove quarantine, because psychiatry will not accept the load. So the population crammed into it, that my mother did not worry - there were reports about trucks with corpses, crowded cemeteries, the FSE would die and so on ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 May 2020 13: 28 New
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      Quote: Keyser Soze
      So the population crammed into it, that my mother did not worry - there were reports about trucks with corpses, crowded cemeteries, the FSE would die and so on ...

      This is true, people with a lowered psyche, watching TV is contraindicated.
  16. alone
    alone 5 May 2020 10: 47 New
    +1
    Taking someone’s experience and introducing it in one’s own country will not do anything .. You need to create your own concept of combating a pandemic .. And the most important thing is that epidemiologists and virologists must lead the fight against a pandemic .. Specialists ... chief virologist .. And the government acts according to his instructions .. A total of 2632 patients, 146 fatal outcomes ... Many may object: a large percentage of mortality .. Yes, but by population limits the percentage of people infected is miserable ..
    Until each country creates its own concept of struggle, it will be difficult to defeat a pandemic
  17. Maks1995
    Maks1995 5 May 2020 11: 06 New
    +1
    Interestingly, ours in the Far East worked according to the Vietnamese version, and officially the numbers there are small (the Chinese really complain that the flow from us is growing)

    And in VIP-Moscow, they worked "democratically", remember Leshchenko, current officials, and now she is a hotbed of illness. On the color map of MO, you can effectively see how everything from it is spreading .....
    1. smart fellow
      smart fellow 5 May 2020 12: 58 New
      +1
      Infected Chinese passing from Moscow: of the 5 thousand infected with COVID-19 who arrived (these are the Chinese themselves), more than half from Russia from abroad to the PRC. From which it follows that in Moscow migrant workers and other non-citizens of Russia dropped out of honey. accounting and maintenance. The authorities consider them in the statistics of the countries of which they are citizens. Only China accepts and takes into account such statistics in its statistics.
      The first 2 infections in Primorye in March: the manager rested in Italy and sotr. the bank was on a business trip to Mexico. And so, as everywhere else: an ambulance in Nakhodka and a thousand-cell in Vladivostok nurseries of infection in quarantine.
      On Sakhalin, there is no self-isolation: all non-locals are immediately placed in a good sanatorium for two weeks (a businessman from Vladivostok was there, writes excellent nature, good food and friendly staff) at the expense of the region. Now the teams of Sakhalin doctors have left for Khabarovsk and Vladivostok and are checking at the place of departure - and this is correct if the infected person also infects aircraft passengers.
  18. Pavel57
    Pavel57 5 May 2020 11: 47 New
    +3
    Quote: Dead Day
    "cove" is a global scam of the 21st century, beneficial to many governments.

    At a minimum, it allows reformatting the economy in a crisis. All problems will be attributed to an epidemic that does not exist.
  19. iouris
    iouris 5 May 2020 13: 36 New
    +2
    The chronicles do not mention the “fight” against plague and cholera.
    The behavior of authorities during a pandemic is determined by a) incoming "information" about the nature of the threat, b) available resources. Let's start with the resources. Objective independent "national" science (including medical) was destroyed at the direction of the "partners" who took out the scientific schools into which the resources of the USSR and the Soviet people were invested. The mobilization paramilitary system of medical institutions, designed for a mass war with the use of weapons of mass destruction, is “collapsed”. Special posts are placed on key posts. The population is mainly engaged in self-medication, medicines are made on the basis of demand. The maximum demand falls on the "pill number 16". Etc. Now about the information. Is there a criminal prosecution for distorting state statistical information? I think that is not provided. The state of the statistical case is unsatisfactory. From whom does “information” come for making responsible decisions? This is not known exactly. Given that supranational structures (and cryptostructures) of supranational governance are formed, as well as the dependence of the authorities on the position of "experts", one can imagine how events are developing.
  20. Eroma
    Eroma 5 May 2020 15: 10 New
    +2
    Old Man picked up the Pofig 21 virus laughing
  21. Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 5 May 2020 19: 49 New
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    at the beginning of May, almost 17,5 thousand people were infected in Belarus, of which a little more than a hundred people died, and more than 3 thousand recovered
    Feel free to multiply these figures by 10-15, then you get more or less real statistics
  22. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 11 May 2020 07: 05 New
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    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Oh how! We would be so.

    and which of our officials denied?