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Oil prices go down again

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Today at 11:00 the Brent crude oil exchange rate amounted to $ 25,79 per barrel and continued to decline. By 12:00 a barrel dipped to $ 25,50. As you know, the fall in prices for "black gold" is usually followed by the weakening of the ruble against the dollar and the euro.


July Brent futures also declined by almost 3 percent, reaching $ 25,68 per barrel. When previous trading closed, the figure was $ 26,44.

From the beginning of May it was expected to stop the fall in oil prices and even, possibly, some growth. But instead, prices continued to decline. Experts believe that this is due to concerns about the imminent start of a new round of US-Chinese trade war. Such assumptions are based on a statement by US President Donald Trump about the likely increase in import duties on Chinese goods. In this way, Washington could punish Beijing for not informing the international community about the dangers of the spread of coronavirus.

Analysts at Dow Jones believe that such a move will negatively affect the oil market and lead to a further decrease in the cost of oil.

Many experts believe that oil prices are more affected not by reduced production, but by overcrowding due to lower oil storage demand. In particular, Phil Flynn of Price Futures Group shares this opinion:

The planned reduction in production will be a record, but experts do not forget about the huge excess of oil in the world market, which limits the price increase.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 4 May 2020 12: 32 New
    +3
    what Coronavirus and oil prices have become interconnected.
    Until a pandemic passes, oil prices will be low ... an interesting situation now happens with the further construction of Nord Stream-2.
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt 4 May 2020 12: 53 New
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      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Until the pandemic passes

      The point is not at all in the "pandemic", but in the general global crisis, which was already predicted at the end of the 20th year. "Pandemic" is a kind of game in which practically all the developed countries of the world have joined and it very conveniently fell on the general accumulated problems, now there is something to write off on. The point is not at all in the eternal contradictions of capitalism and problematic distortions in the world economy, but in some kind of virus. As far as oil prices are concerned, I think the question is being overblown. Until financial speculators play enough on their exchanges, this mess will continue.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 4 May 2020 13: 00 New
        +2
        As long as financial speculators do not play enough on their exchanges, this mess will continue.

        These guys have a bottomless appetite ... to satisfy it, you need a serious conflict like a world war that temporarily resolves the contradictions of capitalism ... how systemic contradictions of capital will be resolved without war now I can’t even imagine
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 4 May 2020 13: 09 New
          +7
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          how the systemic contradictions of capital will be resolved without war, I can’t even imagine

          No one can imagine. As it was before (world wars), it is no longer possible. All major players, now owners of nuclear weapons. We will see. I guessed a lot of options. From fighting in remote territories to color revolutions.
      2. Malyuta
        Malyuta 4 May 2020 13: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: orionvitt
        It's not about the "pandemic" at all, but about the general global crisis

        Tell me, plz, how did global economic crises affect the economy of the USSR?
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 4 May 2020 13: 11 New
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          Quote: Malyuta
          Tell me, plz, how did global economic crises affect the economy of the USSR?

          Two world wars, is this not enough for you? And the USSR has been gone for almost thirty years now.
          1. Malyuta
            Malyuta 4 May 2020 13: 23 New
            +1
            Quote: orionvitt
            Two world wars, is this not enough for you?

            And the first world to the USSR which side? And the Great Patriotic War was by no means imperialistic for the USSR.
            1. Narak-zempo
              Narak-zempo 4 May 2020 13: 28 New
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              Quote: Malyuta
              Quote: orionvitt
              Two world wars, is this not enough for you?

              And the first world to the USSR which side? And the Great Patriotic War was by no means imperialistic for the USSR.

              World War II stems from the Great Depression.
              1. TAMBU
                TAMBU 4 May 2020 14: 59 New
                +8
                No.
                The Second World War follows from the First World ...
            2. orionvitt
              orionvitt 4 May 2020 19: 00 New
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              Quote: Malyuta
              Quote: orionvitt
              Two world wars, is this not enough for you?

              And the first world to the USSR which side? And the Great Patriotic War was by no means imperialistic for the USSR.

              You ask strange questions and mix the soft with the green. "Imperialist" is the label that the Bolsheviks stuck on the First World War. Although the Second World War, in meaning and content, was practically no different. (except for racial ideas). Okay, answer the counter question, what does the USSR have to do with it? Today's global crisis is here and now.
        2. Narak-zempo
          Narak-zempo 4 May 2020 13: 21 New
          +4
          Quote: Malyuta
          Tell me, plz, how did global economic crises affect the economy of the USSR?

          I am sending you to the history of the first five-year plan.
          Crises bring down prices for industrial products, but commodity prices drop even more.
          The five-year plans were drawn up on the basis of current world prices for grain, timber and other raw materials, because the USSR could not offer any other goods to obtain foreign currency for the purchase of equipment. The Great Depression of 1929 mixed up these plans, which prompted the Soviet leadership to take extremely cruel measures to squeeze out the cheap grain from the peasantry. Hence, the legs of violent collectivization and other "dizziness from success" grow.
          I recommend Shubin's lecture on this topic:
        3. opus
          opus 4 May 2020 14: 10 New
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          Quote: Malyuta
          Tell me, plz, how did global economic crises affect the economy of the USSR?

          1. Great Depression (1929)
          The Stalinist leadership considered a historic chance to purchase the necessary technology from Western firms, especially American and German ones. After overfulfilment of the plan of industrial growth rates for 1928/1929. financial year (23,7%) Stalin demanded (January 1930) to increase them as a whole from 21,5 to 45%. The new leaders of the Council of People's Commissars (V. Molotov instead of Rykov) and the State Planning Commission (V. Kuybyshev instead of Krzhizhanovsky) took up the revision of the five-year plan. Its indicators were overestimated against the projected figures of the best option for pig iron smelting - 1,7 times, coal and oil production, steel and rolled products - 2 times, and even more - for the production of vehicles.

          up to 85% of the new factory equipment in the first five-year period was installed thanks to purchases of Western technologies. The share of industrial equipment in USSR imports during the first five-year period increased from 23 to 56%, and industrial raw materials decreased from 56,5 to 28%; USSR share in world imports of machinery and equipment jumped to 30% (1931) and then to 50% (1932)!

          In the face of a sharp decline in demand for industrial projects and products in the West, entrepreneurs and engineers, especially American and German, were interested in lucrative orders from the USSR: General Electric, Siemens, AEG - for electrical equipment; Ford Motors - for equipment for car assembly plants in Nizhny Novgorod (since 1932 - Gorky) and Moscow; firm "Arthur McKee" from Cleveland - for the design of the Magnitogorsk Iron and Steel Works, etc., etc. in fact, the depression opened the way for the USSR to the "high technologies" of that time

          2. The collapse of the gold standard and bread for export for industrialization:
          The main revenue came in pounds from England, the main importer of Soviet grain, while the main purchases of equipment were made in the United States and Germany in dollars and Reichsmarks. Therefore, the collapse of the gold standard and the devaluation of the pound (1931) dealt a significant blow to the solvency of the USSR, which had lost 1,1 billion currency rubles in foreign trade during the crisis.

          3. Oil crisis 70s:
          After the war in the Middle East broke out in the early 70s, in 1973 a serious global oil crisis began. In this situation, the USSR became the largest supplier of oil and earned a decent amount, which was immediately sent to the development of agriculture and heavy industry. However, already in the late 70s the crisis was resolved and there was a serious outflow of financing from the Soviet economy. The authorities in the USSR clearly did not expect such a large outflow of capital that immediately affected the economic condition of the country.
          ============
          Is that enough? Or about the Gulag matches to tell?
          Quote: orionvitt
          Two world wars, is this not enough for you?

          belay
          "Where's the dog (WW1) from"?
          war is not economic crisis
          1. Narak-zempo
            Narak-zempo 4 May 2020 15: 04 New
            0
            A minus for what set?
            1. opus
              opus 4 May 2020 17: 25 New
              +2
              Quote: Narak-zempo
              A minus for what set?

              still put (2 minimum). There areReaders
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 4 May 2020 15: 05 New
            +2
            The authorities in the USSR clearly did not expect such a large outflow of capital that immediately affected the economic condition of the country.

            But don’t tell me which countries invested in the economy of the USSR .. the outflow of capital sounds a revelation to me .. Without sarcasm, it’s just interesting.
            1. opus
              opus 4 May 2020 15: 55 New
              +3
              Quote: Svarog
              But do not tell me which countries invested in the economy of the USSR ..

              1.The USSR "ended" actually in 1991
              In mid-December 1986, the restriction on the share of foreign capital (not exceeding 49%) in domestic enterprises was lifted in the USSR, which was one of the steps to start the official transnationalization of the domestic economy.
              The joint venture exported up to 80 or 90% of profit at that time.

              Resolution of the USSR Council of Ministers No. 1405 "On the Further Development of State, Cooperative and Other Public Organizations", which made it possible to export goods abroad from April 1, 1989.
              According to the Ministry of Finance of the USSR, only in 1990 was registered 760 joint ventures. And for the previous 3 years, about 2000.
              the total fund of all joint ventures registered in the country was estimated at 1,469 billion rubles.
              With an atom, a foreign partner accounts for approximately 40%. or 590 million rubles, which recalculated at the official rate of 850 million dollars.
              those dollars 1990 years of printing
              2.
              Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars V.I. Lenin at a meeting of the communist faction of the All-Union Central Council of Trade Unions on April 11, 1921, persistently convinced representatives of workers' organizations of the need to attract foreign capital.

              Lenin V.I. The meeting of the Communist faction of the AUCCTU. April 11, 1921 Report on Concessions // Poln. Sobr. Op., vol. 43, pp. 170—171.

              International Barnsdall Corporation (International Barnsdall Corp.) - Azneft Trust
              Swedish (Sweden, as you hope you understand) General Electric from 1927 to 1962
              Hokushinkai oil concession (Japan) 1924-1975
              and in total in the USSR there were more than 350 industrial and commercial foreign concessions.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 4 May 2020 16: 08 New
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                1.The USSR "ended" actually in 1991

                I understand my question was different:
                which countries invested in the economy of the USSR ..

                The USSR was under sanctions and with a closed economy, in this regard, I am curious which of the capitalist countries was ready to invest its capital in the USSR.
                Lenin V.I. The meeting of the Communist faction of the AUCCTU. April 11, 1921 Report on Concessions // Poln. Sobr. Op., vol. 43, pp. 170—171.

                Everything is clear here too.
                I am interested in the period from 1945 to 1986, if you have information, at least a few enterprises that invested in the USSR, please share .. it is really curious if this is so.
                1. opus
                  opus 4 May 2020 17: 15 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Svarog
                  The USSR was under sanctions and with a closed economy, in connection with this, to me and

                  - there were no particular sanctions, there was a ban on the transfer of "high" technologies
                  after 1986, many invested. I wrote
                  Quote: opus
                  the total fund of all joint ventures registered in the country was estimated at 1,469 billion rubles.
                  RџSЂRё эvolume of the foreign partner accounts for approximately 40%. or 590 million rubles. That in terms of the official exchange rate is 850 million dollars.

                  During 1989, the Soviet Union entered into agreements for the promotion and mutual protection of investment with eight economically developed states of the West. The first partner of the USSR in the field of mutual protection of foreign investment was Finland. If we talk about large countries, then in the same 1989, Britain, Germany, Canada and Italy followed her example. The following year, 1990, the USSR concluded bilateral similar agreements with four more economically developed states (Austria, Spain, Switzerland, South Korea), as well as with China and Turkey.


                  Quote: Svarog
                  I’m interested in the period from 1945 to 1986,

                  Well, the most classic .... McDonald's?

                  - a joint venture - the Soviet-West German firm "Lenvest"
                  - Enterprise "Hotel" Soviet. Founders of the joint venture: from the Soviet side -
                  Moscow hotel "Sovetskaya", from the French side - the hotel company "Akor"
                  - hotel services for foreigners - Soviet-Dutch joint venture "Good Luck" (GOOD LUCK) / leisure center "Proletarets", from the Dutch side - firm "BUCHOFF AUTOMATEH BW" UK 300 rubles /
                  - construction of resort hotels Soviet-Swiss joint venture "Sovsaderm" / construction of a resort and medical hotel "Mishor" in Yalta /, Soviet-West German joint venture "Moscow Fair" (MOSKAU MESSE)) / "Mosinter", and with
                  West German side - GLAHE INTERNATIONAL KG /
                  -Soviet-american the Dialogue enterprise, registered at the end of 1987, was the first domestic high-tech company to attract Western capital. Subsequently, the very first in Russia investment bank Troika Dialog + Astro Pizza grew out of Dialogue

                  the first Russian-French joint ventures were: "Technicord" with the participation of "Societe nouvelle de metallisation Indus-three" for joint work in the field of creating new technical products for the mining and chemical industry. In the same month, such well-known enterprises as "Interkvadro" were established, where co-founder of "Aniral Yutek" - development of software products, maintenance of computer systems, etc. and Sofraplast with the Olivier Company - production of consumer goods from plastics.
                  -Russian-French publishing house "DEM" ("Enigma Nouvelle"),
                  an enterprise in the hotel business - "Scherotel" with Belgian and British participation (1989) and one of the largest joint venture "Soreal" (1989) - in the field of perfumery, with an authorized capital of 52 million rubles.
                  JV "Iris", created in 1988 by the efforts of S. Fedorov, director of the IRTC "Eye Microsurgery", together with "Vnesheconombank", on the one hand, and such major French companies as "Bouygues", "Credit Lyonne", "Bank Na-sional de Paris ”and others, - on the other.
                  wink
                  and "on the road"
                  On December 3, 1967, an agreement was signed between the USSR and Bulgaria on the construction of logging enterprises and joint logging in the Udor district of the Komi ASSR
                  although "chicken is not a bird, and Bulgaria is not abroad"
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 4 May 2020 17: 28 New
                    0
                    Quote: opus
                    although "chicken is not a bird, and Bulgaria is not abroad"

                    Thank you for your work. From which I understood that when they began to open joint ventures, then the country began to fall apart. But until 86, as I understand it, there were no investments of capital countries in the economy of the USSR. Actually, joint ventures were the “laundry” that financed and undermined the USSR. But nevertheless, the capital outflow, about which you spoke, is too loud .. investments, apparently, were not large and could hardly have a serious effect on the economy of the USSR.
                    1. opus
                      opus 4 May 2020 17: 38 New
                      +5
                      Quote: Svarog
                      Thanks for the work
                      , it’s not difficult, I remember half myself, half muddied according to statistics in the USSR Academy of Sciences
                      Quote: Svarog
                      From what I realized that when they began to open joint ventures, then the country began to fall apart.

                      there is hardly a correlation here.
                      More likely:
                      1. In the Soviet period, prices peaked in 1980 ($ 88 per barrel), after which they gradually fell to $ 50 per barrel. in 1985 (by 43%), then in 1986 they fell to 26 dollars per barrel. After that, recovering slightly to 36 dollars per barrel. in 1990, they continued to fall sharply in 1991 ... At the peak of the industry's development in 1980, the USSR’s revenues from oil sales amounted to about $ 3100 per capita, and by 1991 they had fallen by about 2/3 - up to 1050 dollars
                      2. Very low growth (growth) of GDP: in 1960, per capita GDP in the USSR and Japan were approximately equal (see also Spain / South Korea)

                      3. Dutch disease

                      4. Just exorbitant, unnecessary and even absurd expenses.
      3. Fat
        Fat 4 May 2020 15: 00 New
        +4
        Quote: orionvitt
        As for oil prices, the question is too much in my opinion. As long as financial speculators do not play enough on their exchanges, this mess will continue.

        Exchange games are going on and will be going on. Any attempt to talk about "trends" is pointless. The author wrote "the price has gone down again" During the time this short, profound message of the author was being written, prices have changed dozens of times ...
      4. New Year day
        New Year day 4 May 2020 15: 06 New
        +6
        Quote: orionvitt
        Pandemic "is such a kind of game

        Quote: orionvitt
        but in some kind of virus.

        Yes, until the ass does not feel, you will not understand. A good "game", in which more than 80 doctors have already died, just last night 3 people died in intensive care. This is not a "game", this is the realities of life and is an objective reality
    2. Civil
      Civil 4 May 2020 13: 05 New
      +5
      Oil mother, save.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 4 May 2020 13: 47 New
        +7
        Quote: Civil
        Oil mother, save.

        Gas father, help.
        1. DEDPIHTO
          DEDPIHTO 4 May 2020 13: 51 New
          +8
          King of hope, save lol
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 4 May 2020 15: 07 New
            +4
            Oil mother, save.

            Gas father, help.

            King of hope, save lol

            Mother stood on that, until she saw the light ..
            1. Civil
              Civil 4 May 2020 16: 28 New
              +4
              Quote: Svarog
              Mother stood on that, until she saw the light ..

              It is when? Did I miss something? laughing A sucker is not a mammoth, a sucker will not die out.
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 4 May 2020 14: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Coronavirus and oil prices have become interconnected.
      Until a pandemic passes, oil prices will be low ..

      First of all, coronavirus is a convenient tool for explaining its miscalculations in the economy. Look at how everything has rushed into this action, now there will be a redistribution of markets under this topic, cancellation of the largest debts, and the biggest failures in economic strategies will be explained.
      There is only a small feature, the Americans are trying to get out of this crisis with the help of a military conflict
    4. Maz
      Maz 4 May 2020 16: 26 New
      -1
      We have Urals, their brent is their American problem.
      The freight tariff for second-class tankers that can carry 800 thousand barrels more than doubled to a record $ 173 thousand per day.

      The freight of first-class tankers, with carrying capacities from 345 thousand to 615 thousand barrels, also doubled and reached almost $ 112 thousand per day.

      The freight of super-large tankers (VLCC) with a capacity of up to 2 million barrels fell to $ 167 thousand per day.
      Thus, oil storage costs today from 2,5 to 10 dollars per barrel per month. Despite the fact that only in the USA, the Saudis sent 50 million barrels that they can not sell.

      The volume of oil products stored in tankers reached 72 million barrels. In March, there were only 33,7 million barrels and they were not sold either.

      Against this background, the Saudis are selling oil in Southern Europe at $ 4-6 per barrel. There were days when on the spot the price of Brent oil fell below $ 10, and the SA sold oil at a discount to the standard by $ 10,25. That is, it practically gave away.

      At the same time, the Russian Urals is sold with payment upon loading on board at a price of just under $ 20, on some days selling, which was previously unheard of, is more expensive than the Brent.

      The northern ports operate at full capacity, supplying oil, including to Poland. Now a tanker with 100 tons already paid is going to Gdansk, refuting Warsaw’s refusal of sea oil supplies from Russia.

      And no one today even stutters about selling it with a surcharge. Which is understandable - the negative price for Urals lived for several hours and touched a lot of one hundred thousand barrels, and the prices for American and Middle Eastern oil from minus 38 dollars to plus 12 dangling like snot in an ice hole for weeks.

      This is confirmed by generalized loss reports on the oil fronts. According to Western analytical agencies, Russia lost $ 6 billion in March, the Saudis - 27. SA reserves fell to a minimum of $ 10 billion in 464 years, Russia did not touch gold reserves at all, and the National Welfare Fund increased by 42 s in March more than a billion dollars, accounting for a record 165,38 billion dollars.

      At the same time, Russia’s external debt from the beginning of the year to April 1 decreased by more than 40 billion, and among the Saudis it grew by 20. The processes are going in different directions and bring different results. At current prices in Russia, the delta between the budgeted price of oil in the budget and the real one is $ 23, for the CA - about 65!

      Little of. If Russia is sharply increasing its supplies to China, then the Saudis are not only gradually being squeezed out of this market by us, but they are also losing their traditional customers in the United States - there is nowhere to put their own and Canadian and Mexican ones.

      These are the realities of the oil war on the last day of April. Starting May 1, not only the Saudis, but also the rest of OPEC + members begin to negotiate a reduction of 9.7 million barrels per day, and on May 5, Texas will decide how to save its own production, which gives 48% of all US oil. So far, they are talking about a million reduction only in this state and a ban on the import of Saudi oil.

      These are the numbers today and they testify to the successful offensive of Russia on all oil fronts.
  2. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 4 May 2020 12: 33 New
    0
    Well now, let’s see if our government is worth anything at all. Can it fend off this not the most global challenge, without shocks.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 4 May 2020 12: 35 New
      -6
      Well, Putin says we will survive this misfortune ... smile undoubtedly ... it happened and worse.
      1. alone
        alone 4 May 2020 12: 40 New
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        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        says survive and this misfortune ...

        He will survive .. But will the economy, which has been so stupidly managed for 20 years, survive?
        1. RosUkrBel
          RosUkrBel 4 May 2020 12: 48 New
          -11
          The economy was raised in 20 years. Where would you be right now to eat if you were managed illiterate ...
          1. alone
            alone 4 May 2020 12: 51 New
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            Quote: RosUkrBel
            Economy raised in 20 years

            And therefore, it turned out to be dependent on the price of oil and gas? The economy could be increased by directing the flow of petrodollars to the rise of other industries .. Nobody did this .. That was not an economy for 20 years
          2. Malyuta
            Malyuta 4 May 2020 13: 03 New
            +6
            Quote: RosUkrBel
            The economy was raised in 20 years.

            Raised by 0,5% per year?
          3. Svarog
            Svarog 4 May 2020 15: 16 New
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            Quote: RosUkrBel
            The economy was raised in 20 years. Where would you be right now to eat if you were managed illiterate ...

            The whole economy depends on hydrocarbon prices .. but our mediocre managers do not manage hydrocarbon prices, they only manage their own accounts ..
            For this reason, in Russia there is no development and it is about this that many people write here .. Russia is sailing along the course of the .. oil river .. and for twenty years they could not and did not want to develop anything else ..
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 4 May 2020 15: 12 New
          0
          Quote: lonely
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          says survive and this misfortune ...

          He will survive .. But will the economy, which has been so stupidly managed for 20 years, survive?


          In my opinion, a serious crisis awaits us, both economic and political ..
          But mediocre managers will not notice this crisis especially, but it will seriously hit the country's population ..
          1. alone
            alone 4 May 2020 15: 22 New
            +1
            Quote: Svarog
            In my opinion, a serious crisis awaits us, both economic and political ..

            In principle, the crisis is already beginning .. besides, the economic crisis was like a volcano, whose lava was waiting in the wings .. this hour came when Novak left, slamming the door of the meeting ..
            Quote: Svarog
            But mediocre managers will not notice this crisis especially, but it will seriously hit the country's population ..

            The population is already feeling all the "delights" of this economic crisis + a pandemic with indefinite holidays.

            P.S. The political crisis started earlier .. When everyone on TV tried to prove that those with an income of 17000 rubles are the middle class .. They had to explain the disastrous economic policy in this way, because there was simply no other explanation ..
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 4 May 2020 15: 26 New
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              In principle, the crisis is already beginning .. besides, the economic crisis was like a volcano, whose lava was waiting in the wings .. this hour came when Novak left, slamming the door of the meeting ..

              The population is already feeling all the "delights" of this economic crisis + a pandemic with indefinite holidays.

              That's right .. but this, as they say, "berries" .. but the flowers, in two or three months will begin.
      2. Thrifty
        Thrifty 4 May 2020 12: 40 New
        +8
        Same Lech hi '"we survived hunger, we will survive abundance" lol It was worse, but when will it become much better?
      3. Mityats
        Mityats 4 May 2020 12: 42 New
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        undoubtedly ... it happened and worse

        worse than with the LIVING CASES yet! laughing
        1. DEDPIHTO
          DEDPIHTO 4 May 2020 13: 15 New
          +8
          The Khazars ruled it over, at their own villas in Switzerland and the Anglo-Saxon region.
      4. Malyuta
        Malyuta 4 May 2020 13: 01 New
        +6
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Well, Putin says we will survive this misfortune ... smile undoubtedly ... it happened and worse.

        He said a lot of things over 20 years, now here's the story about cybercriminals.
      5. major147
        major147 4 May 2020 13: 01 New
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        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        survive this misfortune ...

        Here is a double-edged sword. Prices fell due to a decrease in consumption and the "filling" of oil, and this, in turn, is due to the stoppage of consumers. So the crisis is not only among oil sellers, but also among consumers. Consumers are standing. Everyone sucks!
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 4 May 2020 14: 08 New
          +1
          Quote: major147
          Here is a double-edged sword.

          It's right. One end in hand and drive this HSE gang, which all the time explains to us how the successful economy they created led the country to a hopeless decline ...
          Some snot on the cheeks ... Worldwide, gas prices have fallen, at the gas station - at least henna ... Yes, iodine is your green stuff, how many more people will take the brains out? When you animals, while people tighten their belts, get drunk?
          You don’t leave a solution ... At least salaries have been cut, reformers ...
          1. major147
            major147 4 May 2020 14: 44 New
            -1
            Quote: ROSS 42
            drive this HSE gang

            And whom to put?
            1. DEDPIHTO
              DEDPIHTO 4 May 2020 15: 04 New
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              Quote: major147
              Quote: ROSS 42
              drive this HSE gang

              And whom to put?

              Specialists in a planned economy need to be sought, not all have died out yet. There are no other options!
              ps don’t ask for surnames; I don’t have lists.
              1. major147
                major147 4 May 2020 15: 08 New
                +4
                Quote: DEPHIHTO
                Specialists in a planned economy need to be sought

                And where is the Soviet planned economy? The answer suggests itself.
                1. DEDPIHTO
                  DEDPIHTO 4 May 2020 15: 12 New
                  +3
                  Quote: major147
                  Quote: DEPHIHTO
                  Specialists in a planned economy need to be sought

                  Where is the Soviet planned economy?

                  The mice cried, but continued to eat the cactus? Well cho, bon appetit. And where is the Soviet planned economy, ask HSE the ruling liberties, they weren’t born in the 90s, they made playful hands ..
                  1. major147
                    major147 4 May 2020 15: 12 New
                    -2
                    Quote: DEPHIHTO
                    Well cho, bon appetit.

                    And you ....
                    1. DEDPIHTO
                      DEDPIHTO 4 May 2020 17: 41 New
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                      Quote: major147
                      Quote: DEPHIHTO
                      Well cho, bon appetit.

                      And you ....

                      I don’t have this kindness, I adhere to a planned economy in my microstate and I don’t observe disruptions with crises in my economy. Right below ROSS 42 said, a crisis in the head. In the liberal minds of market pseudo-economists and their employer rulers.
                      1. major147
                        major147 4 May 2020 20: 15 New
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                        Quote: DEPHIHTO
                        in its microstate

                        Where do you get the goods for your "microstate"? Liberal market economists? Looks like self-deception.
                      2. DEDPIHTO
                        DEDPIHTO 4 May 2020 20: 39 New
                        +3
                        So I can’t produce absolutely everything, pointed out the same- MICRO-STATE. You have to buy something from the outside. The Soviet Union also bought on the foreign market, but the import figures were incomparably small (compared with the current ones), precisely because of the self-sufficient planned economy and, naturally, of the country's natural wealth.
    2. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 4 May 2020 13: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      Well, Putin says we will survive this misfortune ... smile undoubtedly ... it happened and worse.

      Polovtsians survived
  3. loki565
    loki565 4 May 2020 12: 41 New
    +4
    The crisis is really global both for our country and for the whole world. Only a full-scale war can be worse.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 4 May 2020 14: 14 New
      +3
      Quote: loki565
      The crisis is really global both for our country and for the whole world.

      Why did it become global for Russia? Is electricity gone? Did the water evaporate? Earth turned into stone and does not give a crop? Has oil gone underground? Is the gas weathered? Is the whole forest burned out? Did the fish go to the Sahara? What exactly prevents us from developing subsistence farming, where food and clothing are the main thing? Or we can’t get to the store without cars?
      Enough of us to carry propaganda rubbish. This is a crisis in our heads. This authorities no longer know what to come up with so that the people in Russia become extinct ...
      1. major147
        major147 4 May 2020 14: 45 New
        0
        Quote: ROSS 42
        This authorities no longer know what to come up with so that the people in Russia become extinct ...

        Conspiracy?
      2. loki565
        loki565 4 May 2020 15: 56 New
        +3
        In the context of a global pandemic, enterprises stop or intermittently, their purchasing power falls all over the world, gas hasn’t disappeared, but now nobody really needs it, enterprises are idle around the world.
        Enough of us to carry propaganda rubbish. This is a crisis in our heads. This authorities no longer know what to come up with so that the people in Russia become extinct ...

        You have read at least a couple of books on economics before making such loud and empty statements)))
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 4 May 2020 16: 09 New
          -5
          Quote: loki565
          Have you read at least a couple of books on economics ...

          What are you? There is such a thing sitting there, why does he need any books ?? belay

          Quote: loki565
          ... before making such loud and empty statements

          This is such a specialization. By the way, the one you mentioned is far from the only one who specializes here in this request
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 4 May 2020 17: 27 New
          -2
          Quote: loki565
          You have read at least a couple of books on economics before making such loud and empty statements

          Are you so smart that I’m even embarrassed to ask, do you yourself know how to develop the economy? If all your books teach how to get more profit without investing in the development of production, then what is my experience with the Russian government?
          You do not discover America here. There is a planned economy with state participation, and there is a speculative market economy with exchange and banking speculation, where making a profit depends only on the ability to add value. One hitch, sooner or later all your pyramids will burst, and here you prove with foam in your mouth that this is some kind of crisis ... Also, you are poking a dog on me ... No.
          1. loki565
            loki565 4 May 2020 17: 31 New
            +2
            Well, at least open America and see why they take production to the same China, and leave exchanges, banks, and other speculators at home)))
          2. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 4 May 2020 17: 41 New
            -4
            Quote: ROSS 42
            There is a planned economy with state participation, and there is a speculative market economy with exchange and banking speculation, where making a profit depends on the ability to add value

            If you think a little, it will become clear that "winding added value" and "competitiveness" are antagonistic things.

            In other words - you can assign at least a lemon bucks for a pair of shoes. But no one will buy them from you, if there is an opportunity to buy the same (or better) for fifty dollars request

            Quote: ROSS 42
            You’re also putting a dog on me ...

            You are more careful with allegories, but it will come out sideways ... my friend yes
  • Fast_mutant
    Fast_mutant 4 May 2020 12: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Well, Putin says we’ll survive this misfortune ... smile

    As usual, they will raise the price of gasoline. To support our gasoline producers! ))))
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 4 May 2020 12: 41 New
      0
      As usual, they will raise the price of gasoline. To support our gasoline producers! ))))

      This is one of the measures just ... I will provide all possible assistance to bankers from the bottomless budget of Russia.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 4 May 2020 15: 19 New
        -1
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        This is one of the measures just ... I will provide all possible assistance to bankers from the bottomless budget of Russia.

        Then do not go to the fortuneteller .. definitely it will. And those, in turn, will exchange rubles for dollars ..
    2. alone
      alone 4 May 2020 12: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: Fast_mutant
      As usual, they will raise the price of gasoline. To support our gasoline producers! ))))

      there are many more options to support the Russian economy .. Raise taxes, utilities, etc.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 4 May 2020 15: 21 New
        -2
        Quote: lonely
        there are many more options to support the Russian economy .. Raise taxes, utilities, etc.

        I think this reform will take place along with helping bankers .. but I have doubts about where the people will get the money from? When they will be handed out to all the bankers, when a lot of people will remain without work ...
        1. alone
          alone 4 May 2020 15: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: Svarog
          I think this reform will take place along with helping bankers .. but I have doubts about where the people will get the money from? When they will be handed out to all the bankers, when a lot of people will remain without work ...

          This will not help .. in the country, even after a pandemic, the probability of death of small and medium-sized businesses is very high .. If you objectively argue, the majority of the population is engaged in small and medium-sized businesses .. and this is a multi-million army of unemployed people without finances .. Power itself drove into a corner when the whole economy consisted of pumping oil, driving through the pipe, counting dollars and punting .. For a country like Russia this is not an economy .. this economy is good for Kuwait .. And then in Kuwait there is a very powerful social program for its citizens ..
      2. mole
        mole 4 May 2020 15: 45 New
        -3
        "They will raise taxes, utility services, etc."
        But the minimum wage was raised.
        The "servants" of the people became its "robbers"!
    3. major147
      major147 4 May 2020 13: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: Fast_mutant
      will raise the price of gasoline.

      What's the point? Gasoline consumption has fallen critically. Raise - consumption will fall even more.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 4 May 2020 15: 23 New
        -3
        Quote: major147
        What's the point? Gasoline consumption has fallen critically. Raise - consumption will fall even more.

        Gasoline will be forced to consume. For many, work and livelihoods depend on this. Now sowing, what will not be sown? They will take a loan from bankers, but they will ..
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 4 May 2020 16: 06 New
          -1
          Quote: Svarog
          Now sowing, what will not be sown?

          Duc has already been sown, "Svarog" laughing

          Quote: Svarog
          ... they will take a loan from bankers, but they will ..

          Well, yes, yes ... well, how not to poke something ...

          The sowing is already completed, my friend request
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 4 May 2020 16: 12 New
            +1
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Duc has already been sown, "Svarog"

            You then yes .. everyone has already sown. And yesterday I went fishing and watched what else was sown .. Are you leaving the apartment? or self-insulated?
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 4 May 2020 16: 20 New
              -1
              Quote: Svarog
              You have yes .. all have already sown

              ABOUT! Glimpses yes

              Quote: Svarog
              And yesterday I went fishing and watched what else was sown ..

              It was an optical illusion, most likely:


              Three weeks have already passed since they "started". Or do you have estooons working there? wink
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 4 May 2020 16: 24 New
                -2
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Three weeks have already passed since they "started". Or do you have estooons working there?

                So not finished yet. And I do not suffer from optical illusions laughing Unlike you .. you study the newspapers of Tatarstan, but I live here and watch it with my own eyes.
      2. mole
        mole 4 May 2020 15: 47 New
        0
        There is a border after which consumption will nowhere to decline.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 May 2020 12: 39 New
    10
    Until the coronovirus peak passes and production is launched, it makes no sense to wait for stabilization of oil prices in the world.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 4 May 2020 12: 42 New
    10
    The global economy is not working! Only speculators frolic.
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 4 May 2020 12: 44 New
    -1
    The world economy is primarily focused on the profits of stock speculators, the well-being of the peoples is not a priority here. (((
  • Karaul73
    Karaul73 4 May 2020 12: 46 New
    +1
    Soon the whole country will become oil brokers. To a common man, what difference does oil go up or down? The pocket from this will not be filled. It will only lose weight in the era of quarantines and the decline in production.
  • ssergey1978
    ssergey1978 4 May 2020 12: 47 New
    0
    I didn’t even read it; gas station prices creep up. And what the government earns there will not break off for me.
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 4 May 2020 13: 52 New
      +1
      Prices are falling in countries that are buying oil. Russia produces it and in the domestic market its price does not depend on external factors.
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 4 May 2020 13: 32 New
    +3
    Yes, spit on this oil! Get out of the second oil on some fines what income! This is the dream of any kudrin, endless fines.
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 4 May 2020 13: 40 New
      -2
      Quote: Gardamir
      Yes, spit on this oil! Get out of the second oil on some fines what income! This is the dream of any kudrin, endless fines.

      So do not break. And you want to walk around the park or playgrounds so get
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 4 May 2020 15: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Gardamir
      Yes, spit on this oil! Get out of the second oil on some fines what income! This is the dream of any kudrin, endless fines.

      So for these figures, the population has long been the second oil ..
  • Wolf
    Wolf 4 May 2020 13: 38 New
    -2
    So the global pandemic and global economic crisis were planned and made global by the parasitic trash of the Kabbalists. Troubadour (Trump) affects the price of oil how much and my grandmother is calm! The price of oil NEVER FORMED ON THE MARKET (DEMAND OFFER), but from the US Federal Reserve and the Underground Central Bank of the World. Enough to already lie the people of the world !!!
    YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT A SECRET WORLD GOVERNMENT EXISTS AND PSYCHOPATHY WITHOUT EMPATHY TO PEOPLE !!! THEY ON THE PEOPLE WILL LOOK AS ON THE CATTLE !!!
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      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 4 May 2020 13: 50 New
        +2
        Can't you yell? Who cares about your poppies?
        1. Wolf
          Wolf 4 May 2020 13: 56 New
          0
          We’re wondering, parasites and dumb no! wink
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana 4 May 2020 13: 48 New
    0
    It is bad that the Russians from the falling oil prices are almost neither hot nor cold.
    In Germany, for example, the price of solarium fell from ~ 1.25 to ~ 0.97 euros per liter. This pleases the Germans.
    1. loki565
      loki565 4 May 2020 16: 17 New
      +3
      In Venezuela, 1 liter of gasoline costs 2 rubles, and the country's economy is located slightly lower than the back))) again, people are dissatisfied. And when Gaddafi, gasoline was cheaper than water, but that didn’t help him much.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 4 May 2020 13: 53 New
    +2
    Quote: The same Lech
    Well, Putin says we will survive this misfortune ... smile undoubtedly ... it happened and worse.

    Well, Putin and & will definitely survive, the rest are in question. laughing hi
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 4 May 2020 14: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: fa2998
      Well Putin and &

      It is necessary to write: Putin & Co. ... yes Although, what is there to expect from a closed warranty workshop if all warranty conditions are nullified? We will soon be able to save only a military man who is tired of all this oligarchic lawlessness.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 5 May 2020 08: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Only a military man can save us soon

        laughing laughing laughing And then there was a knock on the door - Alzheimer and Parkinson stood on the threshold, because of their backs Freud's glasses gleamed. wassat
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 5 May 2020 09: 01 New
          -1
          Quote: Paranoid50
          And then there was a knock on the door - Alzheimer and Parkinson stood on the threshold, because of their backs Freud's glasses gleamed ...

          ... And the Paranoid was waiting for them for a long time ... wassat
  • parusnik
    parusnik 4 May 2020 14: 29 New
    +7
    But Russia is a self-sufficient power and does not depend on oil prices, not the USSR tea, which, in addition to galoshes, did not produce anything ... Russia with its self-sufficiency, world crises by no means ... smile
  • Svarog
    Svarog 4 May 2020 15: 00 New
    +2
    Oil prices go down again

    A dollar up ..
    We are integrated into the global economy .. but as a gas station .. and why is this needed? World global crises regularly occurred in cap.countries, but the USSR did not feel them. The economic model built by the reformers turned out to be worthless.
  • lapwings
    lapwings 4 May 2020 16: 15 New
    +2
    The Bombardier Global 6000 business jet with M-YOIL tail number, used by the head of Rosneft Igor Sechin, flew to Vienna. Starting March 27, Russia, as part of the fight against coronavirus, completely closed its regular and charter international air service. The ban on flights from Russia does not apply only to freight, postal, sanitary and humanitarian transportation. March 30 also closed the borders of Russia. Despite this, on April 20, the plane, allegedly owned by the family of the head of VEB and former Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov, flew to Helsinki.
  • 123456789
    123456789 4 May 2020 16: 19 New
    +1
    Today at 11:00 the Brent crude oil exchange rate amounted to $ 25,79 per barrel and continued to decline. By 12:00 a barrel dipped to $ 25,50. As you know, the fall in prices for "black gold" is usually followed by the weakening of the ruble against the dollar and the euro.

    The best time to switch to oil trading for rubles
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 4 May 2020 16: 47 New
    +1
    When we stop paying attention to the prices of hydrocarbons, we can safely say that everything is fine with us. So we removed "independent" obstacles, and learned how to produce finished products from gas and oil ourselves.
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 4 May 2020 16: 49 New
    +2
    I read one of the interventions by the Royal Duch Shell Executive Director, who stated very reasonably the hypotheses that the petrol industry / oil prices might not recover and decadence. Their analysis showed that the oil er was gone. This is very strong, but the trend for electricity in transport is clear. Just see the epidemic and the crisis as they accelerate or slow it down.
  • qobnvmog
    qobnvmog 4 May 2020 17: 08 New
    0
    CoV-19 is a black swan for the commodity economy.
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 4 May 2020 20: 41 New
    +3
    It's horrible! Probably...
    At the same time ... That I used to live on credit (last year), that I will continue to live on credit ....
    Personally for mnu- generally to a damn. Nothing changed...
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 4 May 2020 20: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Benzorez
      That I used to live on credit (last year), that I will continue to live on credit ....

      "You take someone else's, you give yours." wink
      1. Petrol cutter
        Petrol cutter 4 May 2020 20: 55 New
        +3
        Of course. I know this rule.
        Unfortunately, today it’s not possible to survive otherwise.
        While it is possible to balance correctly. What will happen in just a week, I don’t know ... request
  • V1er
    V1er 5 May 2020 12: 47 New
    0
    Oil prices go down again

    Today at 11:00 the exchange rate of Brent crude oil amounted to $ 25,79 per barrel and continued to decline

    And today they went up again. Now the price has already risen to 29.29 per barrel. And why this article?