Reading the Criminal Code

Reading the Criminal Code

All the time, we are told by liberals and Western diplomats that the legislation of Russia is wrong, and the laws in Russia are bad. With the help of lawyers from NVR, I decided to compare the Criminal Codes of Russia and any country, against the “civilization” of which the most inveterate human rights midfielder will not object. And see how the articles, definitions, and the size of the punishment for various crimes coincide or do not coincide.

As a "sample" for comparison, we took the Criminal Code of the Federal Republic of Germany.

The analysis turned out to be interesting and visual. The criminal code of Russia turned out to be more vague, less complete, and the punishments were MORE SOFT than in Germany.

Why it is so, we will talk after you get acquainted with the facts.

Comparative characteristics of criminal responsibility in Germany and Russia for a number of crimes
Sources: Germany - http://constitutions.ru/archives/5854, RF - http://www.consultant.ru/popular/ukrf/

1. Treason.
UK Germany
§ 81. Treason of the Federation
(1) Who, using violence or the threat of violence, tries
1. violate the integrity of the Federal Republic of Germany or
2. amend the constitutional order established by the Basic Law of the Federal Republic of Germany,
is punished by life imprisonment or imprisonment for a term of not less than ten years.
(2) In less serious cases, a sentence of imprisonment of between one and ten years is imposed.
Criminal Code of Russia
The Criminal Code contains the article “High treason” (Art. 275), but the crime is implied otherwise: it means espionage, issuing state secrets or otherwise assisting a foreign state, foreign organization or their representatives in conducting hostile activities to the detriment of the external security of the Russian Federation committed by a citizen of the Russian Federation. This particularly serious crime is punishable by imprisonment for a period of from twelve to twenty years with a fine of up to five hundred thousand rubles, or in the amount of wages or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to three years or without such restriction of liberty for up to two years.
The composition described in paragraph 81 of the Criminal Code of Germany corresponds to the concept of extremist activity (Article 1 FZ of 25.07.2002, No. 114-ФЗ “On Counteracting Extremist Activity”), for such types as:
1) actions aimed at the violent seizure of power or the forcible retention of power in violation of the Constitution of Russia, as well as aimed at a violent change of the constitutional system of the Russian Federation (Art. 278 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) and
2) organization of an armed insurrection or active participation in it in order to overthrow or forcibly change the constitutional system of Russia or violate the territorial integrity of Russia (Art. 279 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation).
These crimes are equally punishable by imprisonment for a term of from twelve to twenty years with restriction of liberty for up to two years.
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The result of the comparison: In Germany, punishment is imposed up to life imprisonment, in Russia - a maximum of 20 years.
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2. The activities of a banned political party.

UK Germany
§84. The continuation of the party declared anti-constitutional
(1) Who is the organizer or instigator within the scope of this law and supports organizational unity
1. party declared by the Federal Constitutional Court anti-constitutional or
2. A party in respect of which the Federal Constitutional Court has established that it is an organization similar to a banned party, shall be punished with imprisonment from three months to five years.
An attempt is punishable.
(2) Whoever participates in a party of a type specified in 1 as its member, or who maintains its organizational unity, shall be punished with imprisonment of up to five years or a fine.
Criminal Code of Russia
Article 282.2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation provides for penalties for similar crimes:
1) for organizing the activities of an extremist organization (in respect of which the court made the effective decision to liquidate or prohibit activities in connection with extremist activities) - a fine in the amount of one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand rubles, or in the amount of the wages or other income of the convict for a period of one to two years, or forced labor for up to three years with restraint of liberty for up to two years or without it, or arrest for a term of four to six months, or deprivation m of freedom for up to three years with the deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to ten years or without such, and with restriction of freedom for up to two years or without it;
2) participation in the activities of an extremist organization - a fine of up to two hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to eighteen months, or forced labor for up to two years with restriction of liberty for a period of up to one year, or or arrest for up to four months, or imprisonment for up to two years with the deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to five years or without up to one year or no.
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The result of the comparison: in Germany, the punishment is up to 5 years of imprisonment (both for organization and participation), in Russia - imprisonment is provided for up to 3 years (organization) and up to 2 years (participation), that is, significantly softer. There is a variety of types of punishments with us: you can “get rid” of fines, arrest or forced labor. In Germany, only a participant can get away with a fine - but not the organizer. Article 282.1 of the Criminal Code also provides for penalties for organizing and participating in the activities of an extremist community, but the sanctions for these crimes are also milder (up to 4 and 2 years of imprisonment, respectively).
It is noteworthy that under Russian criminal law, a person who voluntarily ceased to participate in an extremist organization is generally exempt from criminal liability, unless its actions contain a different crime.
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3. Undermining the combat capability of the army.

UK Germany
§ 89. Anti-constitutional impact on the Bundeswehr and public security organs
(1) Who systematically influences the composition of the Bundeswehr or other public security organ to undermine their duty to protect the security of the Federal Republic of Germany or the constitutional order, and thereby deliberately opposes the integrity or security of the Federal Republic of Germany or its constitutional foundations , Shall be punished with imprisonment for up to five years or a fine.
(2) Attempt is punishable.
(3) § 86, para. 4, acts accordingly.
Criminal Code of Russia
In the Russian Criminal Code, public calls for extremist activity (Art. 280 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) can be cited as such a crime, since this means, among other things, planning, organizing, preparing and committing actions aimed at violently changing the fundamentals of the constitutional order and violation of the integrity of the Russian Federation and the undermining of the security of the Russian Federation. In Russia, such actions are punished with a fine of up to three hundred thousand rubles, or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to two years, or forced labor for up to three years, or arrest for a term of four to six months, or imprisonment up to three years with the deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for the same period. If appeals are made using the mass media, the punishment is somewhat harder: forced labor for up to five years with the deprivation of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to three years or without imprisonment for up to five years with deprivation the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to three years.
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The result of the comparison: In the German Criminal Code, a more comprehensive approach to determining the objective side of this crime, while committing these actions against the security organs is fixed as evidence of the intention to oppose the integrity or security of the state or against its constitutional foundations. Meanwhile, in the Russian Criminal Code, as part of the said crime (calls for extremism) there is no special object - the public security organs. In Germany, the law considers such actions against security agencies, and in some cases offensive actions against the president, legislature, government, court as actions against the integrity or security of the state or its constitutional foundations.
In addition, in Germany, as can be understood, under the above corpus delicti fits any attack on the armed forces and security agencies with the aim of undermining their combat readiness, morale, reducing the sense of responsibility. That is, organizing, for example, “readings” for security agencies and exhorting their individual members that the service is not needed, that it is not worth defending the state, and in general it is not prestigious, will also fall under the scope of this article. In Russia, such actions will not be grounds for bringing the persons concerned to criminal or administrative responsibility.
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4. Insulting the President of the country and other authorities.
UK Germany
§ 90. Insult of the Federal President
(1) Who publicly, at a meeting or by distribution of written materials (§11, para. 3) offends the Federal President, is punished with imprisonment from three months to five years.
(2) In less serious cases, the court may mitigate the punishment at its discretion (§ 49. Para. 2) if the prerequisites of § 188 are not fulfilled.
(3) Imprisonment is a sentence of six months to five years if the act is defamation (§ 187) or if the perpetrator by his act intentionally opposes the integrity of the Federal Republic of Germany or constitutional foundations.
(4) Act is prosecuted only with the approval of the Federal President.
§ 90b. Anti-constitutional insult to constitutional bodies
(1) Who publicly, at a meeting or by disseminating written materials (§11, para. 3) offends the legislature, the government or the Constitutional Court of the Federation or its Land or one of their members in this capacity in such a way that it threatens the authority of the state, and thereby deliberately opposes the integrity of the Federal Republic of Germany or against its constitutional foundations, is punished with imprisonment from three months to five years.
(2) Act is prosecuted only with the approval of the relevant constituent body or its member.
Criminal Code of Russia
In the Criminal Code there is an article “Insulting a representative of the authorities” (Art. 319 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), and under the representative of the authorities in this and other articles of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, an official of a law enforcement or supervisory body is recognized, as well as another official endowed with statutory powers in respect of persons who are not from him in the service. In other words, responsibility is established precisely for insulting a physical person holding a certain position. If an insult is inflicted on a collegial authority, it will be impossible to bring a person to criminal responsibility under Russian law.
This crime is punishable by a fine of up to forty thousand rubles, or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to three months, or by compulsory labor for up to three hundred and sixty hours, or correctional labor for up to one year.
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The result of the comparison: in the Russian Criminal Code a) only an insult to an official, but not a collegial body, is punishable; b) there is no punishment in the form of imprisonment for insulting a representative of the authorities. In Germany, this crime is punishable by imprisonment for up to 5 years. In addition, in Germany, insulting the President, the legislature, the government or the Constitutional Court of the Federation or its Land or one of their members in this capacity can be interpreted as acting against the integrity of Germany or against its constitutional foundations, that is, in fact, equated with extremism. In Russia, this crime is classified as a crime against the order of government, and not against the foundations of the constitutional system and state security.
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5. Insult of the state and its symbols.
UK Germany
§ 90 Insult of the state and its symbols
(1) Who is public, at a meeting or by disseminating written materials (§11, para. 3)
1. offends the Federal Republic of Germany or one of its Lands or their constitutional order or maliciously denigrates or
2. insults the colors, flag (flag), coat of arms or anthem of the Federal Republic of Germany or one of its Lands; Shall be punished with imprisonment for up to three years or a fine.
(2) It is also punished who removes, destroys, damages, invalidates or makes unrecognizable the publicly hung flag of the Federal Republic of Germany or one of its Lands or the symbol of state sovereignty of the Federal Republic of Germany or one of its Lands publicly used by the government or abusive behavior towards them.
An attempt is punishable.
(3) A punishment is imprisonment of up to five years or a fine if the perpetrator by his act intentionally opposes the integrity of the Federal Republic of Germany or its constitutional foundations.
Criminal Code of Russia
Article 329 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation establishes that desecration of the State Emblem of the Russian Federation or the State Flag of the Russian Federation is punishable by restriction of liberty for up to one year, or forced labor for the same period, or arrest for a term of three to six months, or imprisonment up to one year.
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The result of the comparison: in Germany, the corpus delicti covers a wider sphere of illegal actions. If in Russia the object is only the State Emblem or Flag, then in Germany it is not only a criminal offense, but also an insult to the state itself, a subject of the federation (Earth), an insult to their constitutional order, a hymn and even the official colors of the state. (That is, theoretically, for “Rashka”, that is, “Hermashka”, written in his blog, in the newspaper, etc., you can get a real term.) The punishment in Germany is stricter - imprisonment for up to 3 years (in Russia - up to 1 of the year).
In addition, in Germany, insulting the state and its symbols (by analogy with the above-described authorities) can also be regarded as an action against the integrity of the state or its constitutional foundations (with a term of imprisonment up to 5 years), that is, in fact, can be equated with extremism. In Russia, the crime against the flag and the coat of arms is assigned only to the category of crimes against the order of management.

6. Propaganda against the army.
UK Germany
§ 109d. Anti-Bundeswehr propaganda
(1) Who deliberately makes false or grossly distorting statements to prevent the Bundeswehr from functioning or spreading them, knowing their false content to prevent the Bundeswehr from fulfilling its defense tasks, is punishable by up to five years in prison or a fine.
(2) Attempt is punishable.
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The result of the comparison: The content of this crime in Germany can be described as defamation of the armed forces. In Russia, such (or similar) composition is absent (that is, such actions are neither an administrative nor a criminal offense).

7. Call for illegal activities.

UK Germany
§ 111. Public Call for Punishable Acts
(1) Whoever publicly, at a meeting or by distributing written materials (§11, para. 3) calls for the commission of a wrongful act, is punished as an instigator (§ 26).
(2) If the call fails, then the punishment is imprisonment for up to five years or a fine.
Punishment can not be more serious than punishment in the case when the call led to the result (paragraph 1); § 49, para. 1, No. 2, is to be applied.
Criminal Code of Russia
In Russia, unlike in Germany, as an independent corpus, it is not any public call for unlawful actions that is criminalized, but only public calls for terrorist activities or public justification of terrorism (Article 205.2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), and calls for extremist activities (Art .280 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation). In addition, it is possible to add here such a crime as incitement of hatred or hostility, as well as to humiliate the dignity of a person or a group of persons based on gender, race, nationality, language, origin, attitude to religion, as well as belonging to any social group, committed publicly or using mass media (Art. 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation). For other cases, the article 33 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation introduces the concept of an instigator as an accomplice: they recognize the person who inclined another person to commit a crime by persuasion, bribery, threat or other means. That is, the person becomes an instigator only in the case of “effective incitement”. Thus, only a call if it was unsuccessful, except for the above cases, is not a crime in Russia. If the “appeal” was successful, then it will be covered by the composition of the main crime itself (for example, murder, sabotage) with reference to article 33 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
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The result of the comparison: In Germany, it is enough to have the very fact of calling for any unlawful act to bring the guilty person to criminal responsibility. At the same time in Germany the term of imprisonment is up to 5 years, even if the call is unsuccessful. That is, shouted "Go on to the Reichstag!" (Kremlin!) We are the power! ”, Even if no one went anywhere - get 5 years.
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8. Insult

UK Germany
§ 185. Insult
Insult is punishable by imprisonment for up to one year or a fine and, if committed by an act, the penalty is imprisonment for up to two years or a fine.
Criminal Code of Russia
Until recently, an insult in Russia was a criminal offense (Art. 130 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, canceled), now it is only an administrative offense (decriminalized).
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The result of the comparison: Even when an insult was a criminal offense in Russia, even then it was punished only with a fine, or mandatory work, or correctional labor, or restriction of freedom. In Germany - imprisonment up to 2 years.
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9. Slander

UK Germany
§ 186. Slander
Who against another person informs or spreads a fact that denigrates or humiliates this person before the public, if the truth of this fact is not proven, is punished with imprisonment of up to one year or a fine and if the act is done publicly or by disseminating written materials ( § 11, para. 3) is punishable by up to two years in prison or a fine.
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Summary of Comparison: Such a crime is not provided for in Russian legislation (slander, unlike slander, is not a dissemination of a knowingly false fact, but simply a fact whose truth is not proven, but in any case denigrates or humiliates a person). In Germany, real terms: up to 2 years in prison, although there may be a fine.
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10. Slander.

UK Germany
§ 187. Slander
Who deliberately against another person informs or spreads a deliberately false fact that denigrates this person or humiliates him before the public or threatens his creditworthiness, is punished with imprisonment of up to two years or with a fine and. if the act is committed in a public speech, at a meeting or by distributing written materials (§11, para. 3), shall be punished with imprisonment of up to five years or a fine.
Criminal Code of Russia
18.07.2012. The Federation Council approved the restoration of an article on libel in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (which was decriminalized in the Russian Federation in December 2011). However, if the President signs the law and enters into force, the main type of punishment for defamation will be fines, and the punishment of imprisonment by the new law is also not provided. Although the amount of fines significantly increased:
- for the dissemination of false information discrediting the honor and dignity of another person or undermining his reputation - up to 500 thousand rubles;
- defamation contained in a public speech, a publicly demonstrated work or the media - up to 1 million;
- defamation using official position - up to 2 million rubles;
- slander that a person suffers from a disease that is dangerous to others, as well as slander, combined with accusing a person of committing a crime of a sexual nature - up to 3 million;
- defamation combined with accusing a person of committing a grave or especially grave crime - up to 5 million rubles, or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to three years or compulsory work for up to 480 hours.
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The result of the comparison: In Russia, for defamation, fines, in Germany for defamation, you can receive a sentence of imprisonment up to 5 years.
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UK Germany
§ 188. Slander and slander against a politician
(1) If anyone in a public address, at a meeting or by means of written materials (§11 para. 3) spreads slander (§ 186) against a person playing a role in the political life of a people, based on the position of the offended person in public life, and if the act is intended to substantially impede the social activities of the politician, shall be punished with imprisonment from three months to five years.
(2) Libel (§ 187) is subject to these conditions and is punishable by imprisonment from six months to five years.
Criminal Code of Russia
Unlike Germany, in accordance with the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, only insult is criminalized and applies only to a representative of the authorities (Article 319 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), see above. The German Criminal Code establishes slander as a crime, as well as slander against a politician in general (he may not even be a representative of the authorities) and provides for punishment up to 5 years of imprisonment. Thus, slander of a politician in the Russian Federation is not an independent corpus delicti, it can be prosecuted through a general article on libel and / or civil procedure (for example, compensation for moral harm, etc.) by the person himself (slandered) himself.
Nevertheless, the amendments made to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation the day before introduced a new article - defamation of a particular type of civil servants: judges, jurors, prosecutors, investigators, investigators, bailiffs when considering materials or cases in court. This act will be punished with a fine of up to 2 million rubles. Defamation of these persons in connection with the preliminary investigation or the execution of a sentence, court decision or other judicial act is punishable by a fine of up to 1 million rubles.
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The result of the comparison: In Russia, for defamation of a politician and a civil servant, fines, in Germany for defamation, you can receive a sentence of imprisonment up to 5 years.
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11. Counseling for pregnant women and campaigning for abortion.

UK Germany
§ 219. Consultation of pregnant women in adversity and conflict
(1) Consultation serves to protect an unborn life.
The task of the consultation should be aimed at giving the woman the courage to preserve the pregnancy and reveal to her the prospects of living with the child; the consultation should help her make a responsible and conscious decision. At the same time, a woman should realize that an unborn child during any period of pregnancy along with her has the right to life and that therefore, according to law and order, interruption of pregnancy can be allowed only in those exceptional cases when carrying a child becomes such a heavy and excessive burden for a woman. it is out of range. Advice and assistance during a consultation should help resolve a conflict situation that has arisen due to pregnancy and finding a way out of a predicament. In more detail, such situations are regulated by the Federal Law on the Conflict Situation with Pregnancy.
(2) Consultation in accordance with the Federal Law on the Conflict of a Pregnancy Situation should be carried out by the competent authority responsible for the resolution of conflict situations related to pregnancy. After the completion of the consultation, the competent authority must issue a conclusion to the pregnant woman about the consultation held in accordance with the Federal Law on a Conflict Situation Related to Pregnancy, which indicates the date of the last consultation and the name of the pregnant woman.
A doctor who performs an abortion cannot be a counselor.
§ 219 Agitation for abortion
(1) Whoever publicly, at a meeting or by distributing written materials (§11, para. 3) for the sake of his property gain or in rude, reprehensible form, suggests, imposes, advertises
1. own or someone’s services to implement or facilitate abortion or
2. means, objects or methods used to end the pregnancy, indicating their use, or announcements of such content are punished with imprisonment of up to two years or a fine.
Criminal Code of Russia
In Russia, there is no such corpus delicti as agitation for abortion. The Criminal Code of the Russian Federation only criminalizes the illegal production of abortion (Art. 123 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), i.e. production of abortion by a person who does not have a higher medical education of the appropriate profile. This is punishable by a fine of up to eighty thousand rubles, or in the amount of the salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to six months, or by compulsory labor for up to four hundred and eighty hours, or correctional labor for up to two years. And if it negligently caused the death of the victim or the infliction of grievous harm to her health, - is punished with forced labor for up to five years with deprivation of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to three years or with imprisonment for up to five years with the deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a period of up to three years or without one.
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The result of the comparison: In Russia, there is no such crime as agitation for abortion. At the same time, it is obvious that the German legislator aims to preserve pregnancy (even in disastrous and conflict situations). Paragraph 219: “The task of the consultation should be aimed at giving the woman the courage to preserve the pregnancy and reveal her prospects for life with the child, the consultation should help her to make a responsible and conscious decision. At the same time, a woman should realize that an unborn child during any period of pregnancy along with her has the right to life and that therefore, according to law and order, interruption of pregnancy can be allowed only in those exceptional cases when carrying a child becomes such a heavy and excessive burden for a woman. out of range. ”
It is also noteworthy that a doctor who performs an abortion cannot be a counselor on the issue of abortion. Campaigning for abortion in Germany is a criminal offense: who publicly, at a meeting or by distributing written materials for their property gain or in a grossly reprehensible form, offers, imposes, advertises their own or someone’s services to implement or promote abortion or means, objects or methods by which an abortion is carried out, pointing to their use, or makes announcements of similar content, that is punishable by up to two years in prison or is fine.
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Let's sum up.
Everyone can independently draw conclusions whether Russian laws are really so cruel or vice versa, the laws of “civilized” countries are much clearer, more clearly protected by the state, the people and those who are at the head of the country. In my opinion, the analysis makes you think about a lot. The criminal code of a sovereign state is obliged to protect everything that is considered fundamental in the state.
There are double standards in front of us. The West itself leaves tough laws that protect society. The “export” issue is a soft, toothless version, in which rot cannot be removed, and the people and the state are adequately protected. And any attempt to bring the Criminal Code of our country into the proper form immediately brings a howl of human rights field midfielders about the “bloody regime” and impending violence.
But the comparison of the two Criminal Codes is very clear.
Everything at once becomes clear. In which direction should Russia move in order to bring order inside itself?
The moratorium on the death penalty is from the same sphere.
That is why the New Great Russia Party is in favor of its abolition.
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  1. Strashila 31 July 2012 07: 21 New
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    Dmitry Starostin. "The American Gulag. Five Years on Star-Striped Bunks" ... read this book, In the states, the terms are cumulative, we absorb the least, how many do not commit crimes for a single term. We have concrete terms ... well, there from and to, i.e. from when they can release, but may not release, believing that it has not been corrected.
    1. Alexander Romanov 31 July 2012 07: 50 New
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      Quote: Strashila

      Dmitry Starostin. "The American Gulag. Five Years on Star-Striped Bunks" ... read this book, In the states, the terms are cumulative, we have the maximum absorbs the least, how many do not commit crimes for a term of one.

      Not always! About partial addition, have you heard anything? Or didn’t you sit, or something laughing
      1. Atia
        Atia 31 July 2012 08: 46 New
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        Our vague laws make of any petty law enforcement - the lord of lives! Amplitude is what; from a wage bill to a full term on the upper bar! And then we are indignant from where so many corrupt officials!
        1. Churchill
          Churchill 31 July 2012 12: 06 New
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          Quote: Atia

          Our vague laws make of any petty law enforcement officer - the lord of lives

          So who wrote, such and laws! They say this craft is profitable - lawmaking! hi
  2. Ash
    Ash 31 July 2012 07: 30 New
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    Now, with regard to Russian laws. So, for example, the law "On the status of military personnel" guarantees (in theory) the provision of their housing. That is. after a certain period of service in the Armed Forces, a soldier has the right to housing at the chosen place. In fact, the military personnel whose first contract was concluded after 1998 and until 2005 are provided with housing under a social contract of employment, i.e. on a general basis, like the poor, fire victims, etc. What does this mean? This means that if, for example, an officer of the year 2004 graduated from a father himself was a military man and received an apartment for his family, then this officer could rely on housing, he must give up his share in the parental apartment and this apartment automatically goes from his parents to the state, and his parents stay on the street to wait for them to be given housing with less living space. Here we have “democratic” and “humane” legislation.
    In addition, there is a provision according to which, if a soldier acquires housing for his money, he automatically loses the right to receive housing from the state. In other words, a soldier who has been drinking his salary all the way can get an apartment, and one who saved money in order to so that in the future his children can live in better conditions and acquire a living space - they can forget about the housing they are supposed to receive from the state. That’s how the housing problem of military personnel is solved today: on TV they show the delivery of keys to the apartments, but in reality thousands of military men refuse to recognize them in need in obtaining housing. What do you think, Comrade Starikov, in the same Germany do the Bundeswehr officers have a headache about such issues? Personally, I doubt it very much.
    1. Oleg0705
      Oleg0705 31 July 2012 11: 19 New
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      Quote: Ash
      in Germany, does the Bundeswehr officer have a headache about such issues? Personally, I doubt it very much.


      no problem, just pay if you have money wink

      1. Ash
        Ash 31 July 2012 12: 22 New
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        I recall how things were during my service. I graduated from a military institute and served as an officer after that 8 years in the Strategic Missile Forces. When we arrived as lieutenants in one of the divisions, we were immediately told: “There are no dormitories at all.” So I had to rent housing for 8000 for three (our salary was then 7500). After two years I transferred to another division in my hometown. It would seem that live with your parents and rejoice. But then I had a family. My wife is also the daughter of a former soldier, therefore They refused to give housing to me and to me flatly. All the remaining 6 years of service did not give at least a dormitory for this reason. And when I quit on the basis of OSH, they refused to provide housing. I would have known that everything would turn out like this, for no reason I would choose a military path. And as for “Pay if you have money,” a military mortgage is now provided for young officers, which they are given regardless of whether they already have a house or not. This is probably right, that's just discrimination it turns out.
        1. Oleg0705
          Oleg0705 31 July 2012 23: 33 New
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          Ash,
          it is sad, probably EBNovskie times or immediately after it? these generals should be judged who weakened the troops, but for me it’s so without a court to the wall sad
          1. Ash
            Ash 1 August 2012 03: 52 New
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            EBN, he is the most.
    2. Crumbumbes
      Crumbumbes 31 July 2012 14: 06 New
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      it may not be at all in the subject, today Yandex is full of news about Navalny, he was charged with the article: "Organization of the appropriation of another's property on a particularly large scale." The maximum penalty for this article is up to 10 years in prison.


      Well, here’s the news itself: Alexei Navalny, a blogger and public figure, was signed on his own recognizance in the Kirovles case. The Investigative Committee (SK) of the Russian Federation formally indicted July 31, RIA Novosti reports with reference to the official representative of the department, Markin. Alexey Navalny has been charged under part 3 of article 33, part 4 of article 160 of the Criminal Code (“Organization of the appropriation of another's property on an especially large scale”). The maximum penalty for this article is up to 10 years in prison. Earlier it was reported that the blogger and public figure will be charged under paragraph “b” of part 3 of article 165 of the Criminal Code (“Causing property damage to the owner or other owner of the property by fraud or breach of trust in the absence of signs of theft”), which implies up to five years in prison, reports "Gazeta.ru".

      Kirov investigators several times canceled the decision to initiate this criminal case, as they did not find the corpus delicti. In July, the main investigative department of the RF IC began investigating the case after the head of the department, Bastrykin, was indignant at the lowing of his subordinates. In his opinion, they made the wrong decision, having closed Navalny’s case, reminds Lenta.ru.
  3. Ash
    Ash 31 July 2012 07: 57 New
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    UPDATE: Request to the site administration.Dear comrades, please stop turning individual words in user comments into green links to advertise various goods and services. For example, in my previous comment under the word "apartment" I did not mean the products of Ariston in any way.
  4. lewerlin53rus 31 July 2012 08: 17 New
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    The policy of double standards and attempts to create greenhouse conditions for all kinds of fifth columns largely determine the rhetoric of Western and renegade domestic media and liberals against Russia and its official authorities
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    Kaa 31 July 2012 08: 41 New
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    "How to catch - put on a stake! - Why, they love each other ...- Oh, good soul you!"

    "How to catch, Yakin first thing on stake! -Why, they love each other ... Oh, good soul you!
  6. Kaa
    Kaa 31 July 2012 08: 45 New
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    "How to catch Yakin first to stake! Why, they love each other ... Oh, good soul!
  7. tan0472 31 July 2012 08: 49 New
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    In Germany, the Criminal Code was written to preserve the rule of law, and in Russia the Criminal Code was written by shit to gradually collapse the country.
    1. PSih2097 31 July 2012 13: 14 New
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      in Russia, the Criminal Code was written by shrews for the gradual collapse of the country.

      It was written to protect bandits and other trash from the people, although in theory it should have been the other way around ... IMHO
  8. patriot2
    patriot2 31 July 2012 08: 56 New
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    And what is the commission doing in the State Duma of the Russian Federation that should work in the direction of improving legislation (in particular the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), where its work is, where are the sensible proposals. For some reason, we see more the work of the guarantor of the Constitution - the President than the Duma. Hence the result, described very competently by the author.
  9. Middle-brother 31 July 2012 09: 09 New
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    What is this New Great Russia party? Who is the sponsor? Intentions seem to be good, but as you know by good intentions, the road to hell is paved.
    1. Karabin 31 July 2012 11: 12 New
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      Quote: Middle Brother
      What is this New Great Russia party?

      A small party, of which, after the adoption of the relevant law, has grown like mushrooms after rain. Starikov himself, a well-known personality, is not always consistent. Either he mercilessly fights against joining the WTO, then he sings praises to Putin, who has dragged the country into this WTO.
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        Karabin
        Thanks for the answer. I looked at their site - to join the "party", how to order pizza.
  10. volcano 31 July 2012 11: 03 New
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    Thank you for the article.
    Interesting comparison.
    Once again, the idea confirms that we are not really such an authoritarian and cruel state, as it is customary to denounce us in the West.
    But it should be all the same to us, and this is bad, so we need to bring all the laws under "Western standards."
    And tighten ... tighten.
    I remember the trial of two soldiers. They were found guilty of switching to the side of the militants in Chechnya. Moreover, they slaughtered other captured military personnel.
    One was given 10 to another 15 years ..... And it would have been necessary to shoot.
  11. runway 31 July 2012 11: 10 New
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    Trying to untie the knot with "our laws", the author pulled the wrong rope - as a result he got confused, and specifically.
    Not only that, the topic for him is clearly overwhelming, but he still dares to draw conclusions about the "softness" of our laws over foreign ones .... It can be seen a long time ago that he did not run around the courts. You can argue about the severity and softness of our laws for a long time and to no avail. Everyone has their own opinion on this matter. But the foundation has always been law enforcement. On the way from the investigation to the trial, at the trial itself, the judicial law will be so perverted that you are simply amazed how a normal person can interpret it that way .... As a result, half of the convicts are in custody or not “according to their article” or not at all guilty ....
    Enforcement of court decisions authorities - a separate topic of our issue. After all not cruelty of punishment, but its inevitability, determine the willingness of state law enforcement agencies to comply with the LAW. And if the LAW IS NOT WRITTEN for the “untouchable”, what is this noise about? Well, even toughen the laws to be shot on the spot. But the “inviolable” will remain inviolable .... The law will only become the LAW when it applies to everyone, without exception.
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      makarich26 31 July 2012 19: 59 New
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      It’s just that the author of the article, apparently, completed something legal about a very long time and somehow. A normal competent lawyer would hardly have written such nonsense.
      It’s necessary to think of such a thing:
      "... 3. Undermining the combat capability of the armim ....
      In the Russian Criminal Code, such a crime can be called public calls for extremist activities (Article 280 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), as such is understood as, inter alia, planning, organizing, preparing and committing actions aimed at forcibly changing the foundations of the constitutional system and violation of the integrity of the Russian Federation and the undermining of the security of the Russian Federation .... "
      There is a splitting of consciousness, the absence of all logic. And the whole article consists of such passages.
      Most of those who have been in power for the past 25 years should be judged for undermining the army’s combat readiness, and they’ll dig up Boris Yeltsin and shoot him 2 times.
      But the majority for some reason thinks that these people saved the army from collapse and save it further.
  12. Cripple cross
    Cripple cross 31 July 2012 12: 53 New
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    That is why the New Great Russia Party is in favor of its abolition.

    All is well, as long as the agitation went))))
  13. bremest
    bremest 31 July 2012 13: 38 New
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    The current Criminal Code of the Russian Federation was concocted by a group of poorly educated lawyers from the Yeltsin environment, including P. Krasheninikov, Shakhrai and others. It is necessary to use the experience of preparing the Law on NPOs, when the experience of using the rulemaking of Western countries, in particular the USA, where there is a mention of a "foreign agent", was widely covered. Apparently, the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation should be supplemented with the same provisions that are in the Criminal Code of Germany and are more clear and more severe.
  14. Denzel13
    Denzel13 31 July 2012 13: 45 New
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    piston.k rights
    And also from the comparison articles of our Criminal Code there are really 2 "workers".
    319, since it implements the “plan” (the existence of which is tightly refuted by all the leaders of the “power” departments) in cases sent to the court and 275 (but somehow quite occasionally). All the rest are mostly “dead” articles on which sentences are rarely issued.

    We have another fun: how do you like the statistics that in the Russian Federation only 3% of acquittals? If the case went to court - that's it! Almost guaranteed sentence. Because the prosecutor supporting the prosecution will be replaced by a higher leadership for the acquittal by force through sexual orientation. Accordingly, the judge of the first instance will do approximately the same if the second instance cancels the sentence.
  15. DimYang 31 July 2012 13: 48 New
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    Quote: tan0472
    In Germany, the Criminal Code was written to preserve the rule of law, and in Russia the Criminal Code was written by shit to gradually collapse the country.


    Correct - not written, but translated, sometimes brought ready.
  16. Vlaleks48 31 July 2012 18: 54 New
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    The point is not the softness and rigidity of certain laws! The point is their strict execution, regardless of the persons to whom they apply!
    This naturally does not concern Russia. If we have a firing article, we’ll find our own little man and show with a finger to whom and how much. Everything and the constitution and the law will not pass here.
    The terrible thing is that under the USSR it was possible to make the law work, reaching the Central Committee!
    But now, without a bag of currency do not even poke around.
  17. Magadan 31 July 2012 23: 47 New
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    Quote: Vlaleks48
    The point is not the softness and rigidity of certain laws! The point is their strict execution, regardless of the persons to whom they apply!

    To throw us on the bunks, judges with bureaucrats strictly fulfilling everything, do not worry. But they definitely won’t plant themselves. How do you see the massive examples of billions-stealing bureaucrats who are brought to trial by some miracles and then released under house arrest or recognizance not to leave?
  18. mind1954
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    What can I say?
    Everything is clearly agreed upon,
    and we have full scope for arbitrariness or impunity!
  19. Magadan 1 August 2012 04: 49 New
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    You know, it’s not even the laws and their enforcement. But the fact is that the most ordinary bureaucrat without any State Duma can calmly issue a law called a “decree”, “by-law” or whatever, and we all will have to follow this “law”. Me and my colleagues continue to be sausage from such a decree of Ms. Golikova. She wrote new rules on medical commissions for workers on a rotational basis. As a result, according to our eyes, the most ordinary engineers, who worked all their lives with their minus 2 and minus 3 and did not bother anyone, were fired from our eyes. Now these people are unemployed. Thanks to Golikova. I really hope that sooner or later we get to her. Nobody will forgive this for sure.
  20. Captain45 3 August 2012 11: 24 New
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    Maybe it’s not about laws and law enforcement practice, but it’s really interesting quotes: “All the difficulties are that the police, being inexperienced in the unthinkable gibberish of the trial, proceeds from the belief that evidence that can satisfy a normal sane person can satisfy the court. Stupid conviction, you see. " Van Dyne, American attorney at the forensic congress. And one more: "Very often the wrong people find themselves behind bars. So often, notorious villains live peacefully in the wild, who have the very place in the prison" D. Koretsky "Antikiller"