Reported Fall of MiG-21 Fighter in Syria

From Syria, there are reports of the fall of a light front-line fighter MiG-21 of the SAR Air Force. According to recent reports, the fighter took off from an airfield on the territory of the governorate (province) of Hama.

At the moment, there is evidence that the plane crashed just a few seconds after takeoff. And what happened this past week.

Syrian sources are considering several versions of the causes of the fall. Among them - a plane collision with a bird, a technical malfunction and a possible fall under fire.

Whether the pilot managed to eject, has not yet been reported.

The photo shows that the plane did not break up into fragments:

Photo: @LuftwaffeAS

Dozens of Soviet-made combat aircraft continue to remain in the Syrian air force. Among them is the 21st MiG. These aircraft are more than three decades old. But even with skillful use, time takes its toll. The resource of these combat vehicles cannot be infinite, and front-line fighters need modernization like the entire air force of the SAR.

It is known that in recent weeks, ISIS terrorists have intensified in various provinces of Syria (it is prohibited in Russia). The militants of this terrorist organization are most active in the province of Deir ez-Zor, attempting to expand control zones in the east of the country.

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[Sniper Amateur]

These aircraft are more than three decades old.

And not five dozen?

[Terenin]

Well, "the stump is clear" that the terrorists will attribute this to themselves as a paid asset.
Although I am far from aviation, but I do not understand Why do you need to fly over the positions of the militants with the landing gear released?

[Shkodnick]

Quote: Terenin

that the plane crashed just a few seconds after take-off

that the plane crashed just a few seconds after take-off

[Terenin]

Quote: Shkodnick

Quote: Terenin

that the plane crashed just a few seconds after take-off

that the plane crashed just a few seconds after take-off

Who said that?
If you count everything declared destroyed Syrian planes, then Syria had at least a couple thousand.

[Sniper Amateur]

Where is the "couple of thousand" ??

[Sniper Amateur]

Well, that is a given. This - in the war, everyone "writes" to themselves. "militias" in the spring of 2014 - chalked up a Su-24M self-damaging in the vicinity of Starokonstantinov. Although - where is Starokonstantinov - and where is the front?

[bober1982]

Quote: Sniper Amateur

"militias" in the spring of 2014 - chalked up a Su-24M self-damaging in the vicinity of Starokonstantinov. Although - where is Starokonstantinov - and where is the front?

The militia shot down the Su-24m in August 2014, over the Lugansk region, the crew jumped and they were picked up by their own. This was confirmed by both sides.
And here Starokonstantinov, this is the airfield based Ukrainian Su-24m (mr). But, after all, this does not mean that the plane was shot down precisely in the area of ​​the airfield.

[Sniper Amateur]

Don't try to cast your shadow over the fence. I'm not talking about August 20 at all. If you want, I will ask the Chief for the ZVOshechki number with lists of Ukrainian aviation losses in 2014. The Su-24MR, "heroically shot down" in the vicinity of Starokonstantinov, was there.

[bober1982]

Quote: Sniper Amateur

Do not try to cast a shadow on the wattle fence

Quote: Sniper Amateur

If you want, I’ll ask the Chef for the ZVoshechka’s numbers with lists of Ukrainian aviation losses in 2014. Su-24MR

I’m not trying to cast a shadow and I don’t have to ask the Chef, well, him.
In the spring of 2014, when landing the Su-24 m (Starokonstantinov), tail number N83, the pilot made not just a gross mistake, but simply something, the plane began to tremendously goat, then the front desk broke, igniting and jumping successfully.
No militias, this loss of the aircraft, did not record at their own expense.

[Sniper Amateur]

And why is he then in the "analytical magazine of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation "- appeared as" shot down by the ApAlchentsy "? No, I still asked the boss to bring this fun magazine to the next duty ...

[bober1982]

Quote: Sniper Amateur

e, I still asked the boss to bring

All the best.

[Sniper Amateur]

And you happiness-health-sex-money!

[bober1982]

That's where your superiors are looking, it's not clear, if you volunteered to represent the "warriors of light", then you need to take a more responsible approach to the task, well, what is it? what are the comments? What is the boss, so are the subordinates.

[Sniper Amateur]

Do you argue with the official publication of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? Ay-ah, how bad!

Table 2 Losses of Ukrainian aviation during the hostilities in the Donbass
21.03 Su-24 Frontline bomber destroyed by Starokonstantinov

A whole polkan gave birth to this.
And proof of course: http://factmil.com/publ/strana/ukraina/voenno_vozdushnye_sily_ukrainy_2014/27-1-0-459
And my Chef - does not interfere in my entertainment. He is cool!

[Sniper Amateur]

You know, I found it on the Web myself.

March 21.03 Su-24 Front-line bomber destroyed near Starokonstantinov

И пруф:http://factmil.com/publ/strana/ukraina/voenno_vozdushnye_sily_ukrainy_2014/27-1-0-459

[sabakina]

Sniper, what side are you a sniper?

[Sniper Amateur]

Hmm ... So already answered in detail in another discussion. She even called a bat and a company.

[alone]

Quote: Terenin

Why do you need to fly over the positions of the militants with the landing gear released?

The pilot just did not have time to remove them .. I think he didn’t even climb ten meters .. That’s why the plane didn’t fall into fragments ..

[Terenin]

Quote: lonely

Quote: Terenin

Why do you need to fly over the positions of the militants with the landing gear released?

The pilot just did not have time to remove them .. I think he didn’t even climb ten meters .. That’s why the plane didn’t fall into fragments ..

So am I about that. I guess a technological accident ...

[ancient]

Quote: Sniper Amateur

And not five dozen?

An extreme modification of the MiG (MiG-21 bis), produced at the Gorky AZ # 21 until 1985.
So that's right .. "more than three decades."

[Sniper Amateur]

And in the deliveries of the AT VSS SAA - MiG-23, the MiG-21 was replaced - back in the 1970s. And?

[ancient]

Quote: Sniper Amateur

The MiG-23 was replaced by the MiG-21 - back in the 1970s. AND?

Not changed, but .. "came to replace" and in certain periods of time the SAA Air Force had in the payroll somewhere 50/50 of both types.
But this does not mean that it is precisely from 1963 that it is necessary to start counting the operation of all modifications of the Mig.
(in the UAR, not the CAA at that time ) were the first Mig-21F-13 and PPS).

[Sniper Amateur]

UAR stands for the "United Arab Republic". And CAA stands for "Syrian Arab Army". Since 1971 - the term OAR is used only by historians. In Syria, it fell out of use a decade earlier.
Well - already in the Lebanon war of 1982 - the MiG-21 VzS SAA not were used. And the payroll ... So they told me that the MiG-17 in the USSR Air Force assault regiments before the end of the 1980s served. And the Yak-28 - already even in the Ukrainian Air Force managed to fly.

[bober1982]

Quote: Sniper Amateur

MiG-21 VsS SAA not used

Listen, you are not entirely competent in aviation, but are commenting on a grand scale.
The MiG-17 is a fighter-bomber aircraft, not an attack aircraft. At the end of the 70s, it was withdrawn from service.
Yak-28r and Yak-28pp, in the independent Ukraine there was just a huge amount, in Chortkiv (Ternopil region), 118 regiments got in the form of Soviet heritage, and they flew (or stood on a joke) for a long time, it’s not clear just why they were are needed

[Sniper Amateur]

Yes, in this I am not Copenhagen. What I know: in 1989 or 1990 - Izvestia published a huge chill from the Ministry of Defense, or from the General Staff of the USSR with a list of types and number of tanks, heavy artillery, combat aircraft, combat helicopters, medium and large warships. NATO countries in Europe and Asia Minor; and the ATS countries in Europe and the Caucasus. And there, the MiG-17 was mentioned in the list of attack aircraft. And that he was originally created as a hawk - I know.

[ancient]

Quote: Sniper Amateur

UAR stands for the "United Arab Republic".

Read carefully ... FIRST, i.e. in 1962 they were delivered to the United Arab Emirates .... and then already in 1963 there were already deliveries to the CAA.

[Sniper Amateur]

Initially, the holivar, I recall, arose on the subject of approval by the TS that the 21st migrants were delivered to Syria right up to the end of 1980-h ...
And here 1963th?

[ancient]

Quote: Sniper Amateur

And here is the 1963rd?

Well, you yourself have appointed "a service life of more than 5 decades"? So I marked for you the BEGINNING of delivery of the FIRST MiG-21 to Syria ..... After all, we are talking about the Syrian Air Force, or ... "where"?

[Sniper Amateur]

The 63rd is already practically six dozens.

[Bad_gr]

The dashboard of the aircraft, and the clock with it, someone's playful hands twisted.
Or on planes, as on our armored vehicles, they are not even put?
At least I have never seen them in technology, only in private ownership.

[4ekist]

Recently I saw such a monument on a pedestal.

[Deniska999]

What is surprising, there almost the entire aviation fleet is worn out over 10 years. It is amazing that they still fly.

[APASUS]

There, it seems like we have a Su-27 in Belarus at a factory. It can train Syrian pilots. At least used cars, but it’s better than the Mig-21

[voyaka uh]

The Syrians have a MiG-29. But they do not fly on them. Take care.

[VO3A]

MIG-29 is different ... They don’t need a fighter in the air right now, but they may not have an IBA machine ...

[APASUS]

Quote: voyaka uh

The Syrians have a MiG-29. But they do not fly on them. Take care.

What is the point then to store them?

[knn54]

The plane of the SECOND generation.

[ancient]

Quote: knn54

The plane of the SECOND generation.

The MiG design bureau interprets it a little differently. They released 3 generations of MiG-21'kh: 1st is: MiG-21F and F-13, 2nd is: Mig-21P, PF, PFS, R, S, SM, SN, SMT, well 3 -i: MiG-21bis.
Something like that.....

[VO3A]

And what is the difference between a 2nd generation aircraft and a 3rd? Can you imagine? ... And since when did the MIG-21 become a front-line fighter? Wiki, don’t look, they write the same teapots as the author of the article ...

[Grandfather]

Quote: VO3A

Wiki don't look

Ancient and "wiki" are not compatible ... Ancient saw, but "wiki" heard ...

[VO3A]

Verbiage, no more ... Worse if senility ...

[VO3A]

What instruments are missing in the cockpit, ancient? Check for "lice" !!!

[VO3A]

There are cons! No appliances! What devices are missing on the dashboard? The clock is determined, and the second?

[Yok Migarek]

Quote: VO3A

And what is the difference between a 2nd generation aircraft and a 3rd? Can you imagine? ... And since when did the MIG-21 become a front-line fighter? Wiki, don’t look, they write the same teapots as the author of the article ...

MiG-21 is the second generation. MiG-23 and others - the third. And yes, the MiG-21 is mostly a front-line fighter. Although, to be completely honest, they were both scouts and fighter-bombers ....

[VO3A]

"Front-line fighter" - we don't have such a concept ... There is a front-line bomber with a combat radius of 1000 km or more ... What side is the MIG-21 here, it has a small radius ... he has been solving tactical problems all his life, you can call it a tactical fighter, if someone really wants to ... If you qualify aircraft by mission, then the class of front-line fighters could include the MIG-31, Su-27, even the MIG-29 is not a "front-line fighter" - it has a combat radius does not allow ...

[Lozovik]

Quote: VO3A

he has been solving tactical tasks all his life, you can call him a tactical fighter

That’s just no such thing. MiG-21, MiG-29 front-line fighters (in some sources, including RLE - LFI), MiG-31 - IDD, Su-27 - ION or MFI.

[VO3A]

That’s just no such thing.

Did I say that there is ?!

You can call him a tactical fighter, if anyone really wants ...

Is it normal with your head?
Following your logic: an airplane that flies over the "front line" should be called a front-line fighter ... People who have no idea about military terms and their meanings can invent any nonsense, call MIGs airplanes of warriors of light or something else. ..It is necessary to have a military education and study properly, and there were always enough clowns everywhere ...